The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Don’t Panic with Jamie Blyth

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Our Bachelor Nation OGs Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter are going all the way back to Trista’s season and reconnecting with contestant Jamie Blyth!   Bob and Jamie relive the night they first met, and we hear the story of how the producers convinced Jamie to try and kiss Trista.    Plus, Jamie gets vulnerable and shares the secret he was hiding from the Bachelor Nation audience the entire time he was filming, and Bob reveals something he said to the contestants on his season that was cut, because it took away from his “prince charming” persona!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me, Y. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency. sphere, of course.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time, Novak Djokovic. He's one 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak, joke a bitch.

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love crimes we're not the podcast for you but if you have unmedicated ADHD oh my god perfect and want to hear people with mental illness psychobabble yes yes then emergency intercom is the podcast for you open your free iHeart radio app search emergency intercom and listen now this is the almost famous podcast with iHeart radio hello everybody it's trista it's been so long, and I'm so excited to get back in front of the mic and actually bring it back to the OGs, kind of really, truly bring it back to the OGs, obviously with my lovely co-host, Bob Guinea, who is looking trim and tan, and I'm very jealous about that. Thanks, yeah, it's amazing.

You know, when you're our age and you have a six-year-old and a three-year-old, and you find out your cholesterol's through the roof, you do whatever you can to get in shape fast. So that and a lot of travel has basically been the gist of it. But thank you. That's a very nice compliment. I appreciate it. Of course. And I've missed you, T-bone.

I have missed you, my friend. I know. It's really been forever. I mean, I know you're doing the, I do part two every so often. And I just, I'm like, I am just out in, never, never land on an island, just waiting. Just give me a call. Pick me, pick me. Yes. I am so glad we're back, and I'm really glad to be back. I mean, I've been kind of excited about this one for a while to have, basically, you talk about OGs. This is about as OG as it's gotten for us on this show. Only, well, obviously, you and I are an OG episode every day, but when we had Ryan on, of course, that was about as OG as it gets. And then this one, I mean, this dude was my partner in crime on your seat.

season when we were on the Trista season of the inaugural season of the Bachelorette, and it was incredible. I don't know what either one of us would have done without each other on the show, and I leaned on him a lot. He leaned on me a lot, but we were basically mutton Jeff in it through your season from night one, literally from night one, until now. I mean, I am still, he's the guy I keep in the most touch with, besides you, of course, from that season of the show. And we've remained very, very, very good friends.

And he's a, we always used to joke at that time. I said, gosh, with his face and everything else of me, we make one really nice guy. Shut up. I'd always be like, Jamie, because Jamie was just such a hot mess. And we're talking about my buddy Jamie Blythe, who is a wonderful person. And we just would rip on each other constantly, and it was so much fun. And we brought Ryan into that mix more than once. Ryan and I would tease with Jamie, and Jamie's just so great at taking it.

But he's, you talk about somebody who's overcome some stuff in his life. You know, you wouldn't look at this guy and think he has a single problem in the world, right? But then you get to know him a little bit, and there's so much when you peel the onion, and there's so much more to him than he even gives himself credit for. And he's really leaned into it. He's really embraced it. And I love him for that. Yeah, I really do.

But I think it's going to be such a fun reunion to have the three of us together because the last time the three of us were together, and I will bring this up, by the way. I will bring up this story. I'll actually save it. I'll save it because I know you know the story. He knows it really well. But I'll never forget our beach date with Jamie.

Do you remember that one? Yes, I do. I sure do. You've told this story before. So it's not like our listeners are going to be shocked. But yes, it is a funny story. Okay, I think he's in the waiting room. So you're ready to bring him in?

I am. Let's do it. Let's do it. So Trista, since the last time you've seen me, which might have been like 1945, briefly, right after World War II, I think, a little bit post-war. It's been a long time.

It has been a long time. I've gained 30 pounds since then. I bet you I'm out. Bob, what do you weigh now? I bet I'm 2.10. I bet you I got you beat. You're two pounds heavier than me. There we go. Hey, it all came full circle, buddy. Let me just say this. I cannot, I've never tried harder to get someone on this show in my life. You've never dealt with someone dumber. That's valid. That's what we've got. We've got dumb and dumber on the show. We do. Oh, Lord. You guys need to get together for Halloween and actually, like, dress up like Domino. We could you please do that. Could we do a Halloween episode? My son realized very early, well, COVID, that I was an idiot because Seema's very smart. She's great at math, his mother.

And I was trying to do kindergarten, maybe first grade math. I'm like, I can't do that. I don't know. It's really hard now. Jamie, give yourself some credit because the way that they teach math now, it's really hard. I was going to say it's not the old school math and you've got to show your work. And like for us showing our work, you'll end with the same answer. But you got to do it in this different way, which I'm going to have to tackle next year.

I'll stick to the sports. Yeah, good idea, exactly. Let the teachers do their job. You stick to basketball. How are you? I'm doing great. It's probably been like 20-something years since like we've spoken, I bet, something like that. At least 20 years.

I mean, obviously you were at the wedding. That was, will be 22 years in December. But I feel like we saw each other at some point after that. I'm not sure there was like an event of some sort that we saw each other for sure. At my season premiere. Well, that's probably what it was. That would have been. Do you have pictures from that, Bob?

I found some a while ago. Andrew Firestone had a couple and sent them to me too. And so I had a couple from that. Hey, Bob, this is kind of funny. I was going through some old stuff here, and you won't be able to see this, but this is in the Chicago Tribune or some times or one of those. And it reads, Jamie Blythe, Bachelor Bob, was a lot funnier when he was fat. And then they go, this was, I just saw this today.

I was looking for some stuff, and they say, do you detect a little jealousy from Bachelorette Jamie? So wait, you said that, and they were ripping on. They wrote that in the Tribune, so I thought you would enjoy that. You know I love that. Yeah. I love that. But you weren't wrong. I was funnier.

And, you know, they just edited me. They edited me romantically on The Bachelor. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know, because when you did the Irish jig, that was editing edited. Yeah. But remember when we, when we, uh, so I think, Tista, you might remember this, but I know Jamie will remember this. So Jamie comes on, because you and I have talked about.

this, Trista, but I remember I gave this speech night one when I'm the bachelor, right? And I'm, I give this speech about, you know, hey ladies, this is no prize. This is nothing to be upset about. In fact, I remember saying, if you are sent home tonight, you're welcome. The only ones are like the women that stay, I'm sorry. I remember saying something like that. And I was like, oh my God, that's going to be so great when they air that because that's truly how feel and they they don't air it they only air like you know the prince charming moments or whatever you're like come on man i even said i was like a date with me at home uh we are not hella choppering it into a volcano no no no my lady friend we are grabbing we are grabbing

my uh my two my two speed chavette and we are cruising downtown detroit uh you know i was like you know i mean it was just but none of that made it none of that made the air so yeah of It came up. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? Sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. writer strong and wilfridel from pod meets world and we're bringing you viva las content that's right we are back in las vegas the city of sin and giving the people what they want a full week of y2k content wait we're back in Vegas tell me why well for the backstreet boys residency at sphere of

course we sat down with kevin richardson and a j mclean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism.

Law and Order Criminal Justice System is back. In Season 2, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic. The world's number one, mild tennis player.

He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic?

It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits?

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton. Elaine Welter-Roth. I'm Jessica Voss.

And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off. the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot.

Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So you know what was so great, I was like absolutely just terrified to go on that show. And I was the first guy out of the limo. I'm figuring they're going to give me some direction. They didn't tell me anything.

So I just kind of got out. And it was sort of like, kind of like dumb dumber. I'm just sort of looking around because there's like producers, there's Trista, there's all these people. And I think they did two takes. Did they? I don't remember that. Oh, my gosh.

So, wait, had you watched the show before? No. I had no frame of reference. And obviously we know why you didn't want to apply to the show or it was kind of out of your comfort zone. We'll talk about that a little bit later. But, you know, you didn't think it was something that you could do. So I'd love to know why you did it. Like I, you overcame a lot of, you know, mental stress. It was absolutely terrifying for me.

So I was pretty late in the game. I was actually at a, I think I was at a bar at sunset for like some sales award I had won. And Lisa Levinson was there. And she said, hey, you'd be great for this show The Bachelor. Should they actually kind of leapfrog me for The Bachelor? But Bobby, how much of a disaster would have been? Holy cow. You would have been great, dude.

I would have been there coaching you a long. Right. Me too. But anyway, when I was, you know, Bobby's heard this story. bunch, but when I was 19, kind of out of nowhere, I had a panic attack. I was never socially phobic. I never had a panic attack. I didn't know what it was. I won't go through the whole long story, but the long and short of it is my biggest fear became people. So I literally had clinical panic disorder and social phobia. So it happened talking to a person in college. I was probably

one month in and then kind of like anybody but back especially 30 years ago i didn't know what the hell it was right it's not like they talked about this stuff um and it just you know i thought it was a one time occurrence i was talking to a buddy it was in the morning maybe one month into school and uh and then i'm like all right well what the hell was that and then i went to class and i had to talk in class and i was always okay with it i was never great at it but i was always okay with it And all of a sudden, I had a panic attack there. And, you know, I'm sure it was just a lot of stress from college and just change and all these things going on. And then I left the class.

And then everywhere I went after that, I had a panic attack. So it creates avoidance. And then so, you know, I just didn't leave my dorm room for two weeks. And then my mom called me. And she said, what's going on? I broke down crying. And then she had had a panic attack before. So she kind of knew what was going on, which was thankful to me.

I just thought I was going crazy, right? And I didn't know it was kind of that other people had this. I didn't even know what it was. And then she was, you know, was trying to get me to leave school and to pick me up to go home. And I just, you know, no one, Bob knows my personality. I'm a little hardheaded. And I think we all are a little bit. We're all fun, but hardheaded probably the same time.

And I just, I, there was part of me that couldn't quit. I didn't want to necessarily give into it. I didn't know how to fight it. So ultimately, I did, I made it through the year. But, you know, if you fast forward through college, I just sort of lived on the periphery where if you're at a big school, you know, you could, you went to Indiana, right? And Bob, I know you went to Michigan State. So if you're at a big school, you could kind of hang out of the back. back of class. You don't have to talk, that type of thing. So my mom was a registered

to school, so she picked classes where I didn't have to do that. And I made it out of college in four years by just sort of isolating myself. I didn't go on dates. I didn't go on one date from 19 to maybe 24 or 5. And where I overcame it was in sales. So there was a guy where I grew up on the basketball court. I was always pretty comfortable playing basketball. and he just he said hey i'm doing this startup tech company do you want to be one of my sales guys um and that's where i really dealt with it and it was the hardest thing outside of maybe the the bachelor's that i've ever done um but every day you know like a you know a quote if you didn't hit for one month you were fired um and it was intense you had to do 100 200 cold calls

a day so i was getting uh exposure um every single day to what i I was afraid of, but the second week on the job, we had to do this role play, which, Bob, I know you were in sales and maybe you had to do some of this. But the president was this typical kind of hard-ass guy from a movie, Glenn Gary, Glenn Rossi, that type of guy. Yeah, yeah. And, I mean, you could put this guy in the movie and he would be the same, you know. So he was on a stage, and I had a role play with this guy.

And I was the last guy to go. There's probably a hundred people in the audience. I walked up there. I'm 21 years old, trying to hide a panic disorder that nobody knew I had. And I was trying to control it to the best of my abilities. And then I went up there and I was toast. I just started to panic right away. And I'm like, I'm effed, right?

And so what happened is you just shut down. And it's kind of like, you know, people are going, what does it feel like? If somebody put a gun to your head randomly, like right now, you'd feel fight or flight, right? It's light. So that's what I felt. So it's just at the wrong time because you're talking to a person. So your whole thing is, well, I got to leave. I got to escape.

I got to get out of there. And luckily, the guy got a phone call the last second. And he said, hey, you got saved. He knew I was scared. And I was about to break down crying and just walk out and leave. And then my mom picked me up. We went to dinner. And my face just fell in the pasta.

I remember that. Just bawling crying. And again, it was you need to quit. You need to quit. You need to quit. that type of time. And I won't go through the whole story, but that was where I overcame it. I worked 24-7.

I never slept. I still don't sleep really. I probably slept an hour or night, if that. And I just worked on my presentation. I worked on everything that you kind of need to do to confront beating an anxiety disorder, which you don't really beat it, but I was in the ring, so to speak. And then it was very incremental. know, the people that I value were sports people, especially coaches, Rick Petino.

Like, I basically plagiarized his book. I hope he never reads mine. He probably won't. But I really took a lot of my philosophy from him. I read all the books in, you know, from therapists. I saw therapists. That stuff's great. I needed, but they didn't have an anxiety disorder, right?

I wanted somebody that I could relate to. And that kind of goes back to the show. I'm doing where I'm interviewing people that didn't necessarily have an anxiety. disorder per se. But I could relate to them. They had some sort of adversity that they had overcome. And that's the universal thing for all of us. But going back to your question really quick, sorry. Going on the show was terrifying, but I had incrementally sort of built myself to a place where I could kind of face it. But if it was 22, 23, 24 or five years old, I couldn't have done it. There's no way. I mean, I just wasn't there yet. And I really wasn't there when I did the

show and um so i didn't know what was going to happen but the night before there was a real concern that i was going to break down crying on the show have a panic attack that was a concern of yours jamie or the producer yeah yeah well no i thought i thought i was going to break down actually this goes back to you you saved my ass but i'll go back to that but yeah no i thought i was going to break down crying with a panic attack but i was at a place where i was willing to confront it yeah and And whether, even if I did that, even if, and I knew the cameras would follow me and exploit it, I knew all that, which intensifies the fear, right? Because if you're, if you have panic disorder, social phobia, the last thing you want to do is be the center of attention. You don't want to be on a camera.

You don't want lights on you. You just want to escape and avoid. So my whole thing was confront. And if I fail, meaning public humiliation, great. I was at that place where I was kind of strong enough to do that. And kind of radical acceptance. of any outcome was what I was looking for. But it was supremely hard.

But when I got out of that limo and I saw you, I made it quick. You look, you know, it was, you looked great. I said hi. And I was on my way. And then I went and sat in this mansion. And I was kind of like, what the hell am I doing here? This is crazy. What did I get myself into?

I am, like, I am dead. Yeah. And then this guy walks in. I can't remember his name. I think it was Billy or something. And I'm talking to him. He was sort of hyper competitive. like, if you wanted to win this damn thing, you could just tell.

And I'm like, I don't know if I want to be here. And then Bob walks in, like, I think right after him, maybe. I was, I was number three. I was number three out of the limo. Yeah. Yeah, I think Ryan was after you, right? He was. Wasn't Ryan the fourth?

Yeah. He was the last one out of the first limo. Yeah. What was so great about what Bob did, I mean, it was, it was honestly amazing. Because when you look at how nervous I was, and then you look at how, and you'd have to tell me, Bob, you didn't, you were the opposite. You were having fun, and I knew you were screwing with this guy. And it was probably my favorite conversation in my entire life.

I told you I met him years later, didn't I? No. Okay, go ahead. You tell the story, and I'll tell you what that. This is how I recall it. It was so long ago, but I remember we're kind of all talking, what do you do, what do you do? And that guy who was trying to act kind of badass, and he's like, I'm a martial artist. And then you go, I'm also a martial artiste.

I said, I too am a martial artist. Yes. And I knew you were screwing with him. And I'm like, is this guy really screwing up this guy here? Like, we just got in here. And I've been sitting in this damn mansion for like an hour. And the guy got kind of, you know, competitive. And he goes, what's your discipline?

And you go, Tybo. And he goes, that's not a discipline. And you go, you tell that to Billy Blanks, he'll kick your ass. I mean, it was just the, and then you pushed that guy out in the center of the ring, like in the carpet when we were all there. And you told him to do the dance, do his like martial art moves in front of Trista and the guys. And he did, didn't he's like, really, should I, should I do it? Who was it? What's his name?

I think it was Billy, right? I have him in my phone. And I will tell you this. Do you have it under martial artist? I have the, I do have it under it. Hold on. I'll tell you what I have it at. So by the way, you know what?

He was a firefighter. His name was Billy Perlotta. Billy. Billy, he left the first night. He did Billy Peralta. He was a firefighter at the time in L.A. And now he's in Louisville. Or not Louisville.

Maybe he was in Ohio or something, but he was at the Derby. And he came over to me and he's like, man, I don't know if you remember me or not, but I had the best memories of you from that night. He's like, you told me that you did martial art with Billy Blanks. And I'm like, oh, my God. I'm like, I remember that. He went like this to you. Do you remember that?

Yes. Like, he was going to kill me. Because you pushed him into the thing. And he's like, he went like that. And then he starts jumping around like a monkey. Yeah. I think he got cut first. I think he cut him first.

Well, I cut him that night. That's not why. I think he was really young. Really young. He was. He was. Because he's super young now. I mean, he's still such a nice guy, too.

And I'm like, oh, my God. Yes. I totally remember you. And yeah, I do remember. remember that. Oh, man. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Ryder Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content.

That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage

and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest. member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all

L-O-V-E-Hur. Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic. chaotic scene.

In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and Order Criminal Justice System is back. In Season 2, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic.

The world's number one, mild tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone.

What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits?

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio Al. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Patton.

Elaine Welter-A. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have a question. So after, you know, obviously we can talk about the show.

show too. But afterwards, you know, they give you the opportunities to speak to a psychologist. Did you ever consult with a psychologist before, during, or after the show to talk about? Before I did, and I think I just lied about it. In retrospect, I think I was really intense for the Bachelor, because I was like, which again, they have to be smoking crack, but I was like final four or five for the Bachelor. They sort of leapfrog me. Yeah. And then, so that was pretty, I'm glad you guys went through that, but yeah. For Aaron Bergey's season, you were being looked at for the bachelor, for that Aaron Bergey season. Yeah, I remember like, yeah, a few people that we would both know that are pretty big names were vying for it.

I won't mention their names, but. Why not mention their names? Oh, one of them is a friend of mine. He went on a different show. Bill Rancic. Bill Rancic. Yeah, Bill is such a, I, first of all, love Bill Rancic. And he's a great guy.

I'll never forget him bringing it up to me. He's like, you know, they talked to me about The Bachelor. And I was like, no kidding. And I didn't know the timing of it. And he's like, it would have been before you were even on The Bachelorette. And he's like. And then they came to me with a different show. And he was, I just felt like that show was more my speed.

And I'm like, yeah, I think you, and you ended up winning it, you know, which is amazing. Yeah. He's a great guy. He's a friend of mine. And, you know, obviously from Chicago. But love that guy. The apprentice would have been a better show for me.

But, yeah, Trista, they, I just lied to him. I never mentioned it. I was doing my best to hide it and just to see what would happen. And then I knew, like, even at the worst of it, that, you know, it sounds cliche and kind of cheesy or whatever, but I knew there was some growth on the other side of just facing something that fearful for me. I guess for you, like, I was scared on my mind. So you guys both went through the same thing, but Trista was the first Bachelorette ever. Yeah. So it kind of goes back to like when I interviewed Mike Tyson. I'm very interested in that because I know the night before I didn't sleep. I was outrageously scared because what I was dealing with. But you guys were the Bachelorette. What does that feel like the night before? I mean, were you nervous? Did you have any doubt? Did you have any fear? Heck yeah. Yes, a lot. I mean, I was, I think, but I bet Bob would feel the same. And I think certainly all the leads feel.

in a way the same, I feel like you're really excited for the potential of, you know, your future. And then it's also like, oh my gosh, what am I doing? Like you said, I feel like that's probably a very common sentiment with anyone who goes on the show. And then I have to say, you know, you said, you know, going through the worst of it, you know, after you publicly announced that you had suffered and were suffering from panic disorder, all I could think about was, oh, my gosh, you were the biggest bitch. Why were you so mean to Jamie? Even though I didn't feel like I was mean to Jamie, but I was like, I was like, honest.

But if I had known that you suffered through panic disorder, like, I definitely wouldn't have been like, oh, yeah, you can kiss me on the tree. You were, you were, no, I thought you were great. Actually, nowhere it came out. Bobby, like, I think this is where, because, you know, I didn't realize they had hidden mics everywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think me and you were talking about something personal between both of us. And I told you that in confidence there, I think. Yeah. Oh, you did. Okay. I think so. That's a guess. Actually, that does, that does sound familiar now that you're saying that. Um, I feel like you may have,

maybe on the, during the, the spa date. I don't know. Maybe during the spa date. Oh, my God. So let's talk about that that that date so if you want to talk about i'm sure it was awful for you but like that that was not awful stop it well hold on hold on let's set the stage a little bit here so okay it's trista's season of the bachelorette right jamie and i are on a date with trista um i want i want to tell the story that leads into the story first so we are on a beach we're on the beach. Well, that was a different one, but yeah. Yeah. That was a different date. This was the, this was before. This was the pool party. Yeah. So this was before. So this was the first time that this, something of this nature may have happened. So I'll never forget it. I,

I, I am standing there and I don't know what to do. And one of the producers says, well, hey, Bob, you know, Trista came to us earlier today and said, God, I really, I really, I really, I feel like Bob's in the friend zone, and I really want him to kiss me. And I'm like, really? And they're like, oh, yeah. And I'm like, and I've gotten to know, Trista. We've gotten to know you really well at this point. I feel.

And I'm like, so you're telling me that Trista walked up to you and said, man, today would be the perfect day. If only, Bob would come up and try and put his tongue in my mouth. And they're like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, no. A, that did not happen. That did not happen. And C, I'm not doing it. And so I walk away and I'm like, we're on a group date with five guys.

And she wants someone to try to make out with her. I don't think so. So I walk over and I grab two beers. And I'm not even a big beer guy. And I come walking back and I'm like, where's Jamie? And he goes, hey, you go back there. Jamie's out there with Trista. And I'm like, I look, and here's Jamie leaning in for a kiss.

Trista goes, Trista literally goes, oh, and he kisses around the cheek. I'm like, my time is impeccable. My God, thank God. They went to him and I didn't listen, you know, but he listened. I think it's the wisdom that you had, the couple years older, you're like, no, I'm not, a producer came up and asked me too. And it was just like the wrong time. But even, honestly, even that, I was like, yeah, I'll try it.

What the hell? But what I loved, and this is my favorite part. So at the end, now I'm second guessing myself, right? So we get in the limo and we're all getting ready to go home. And I, and we're all getting ready to a toast. And I go, hey, before we say anything, I go, Trista, I want you to know, you know, here we're on a date with five guys. I mean, Trista, you might not even remember this, but I remember saying this to you. And the reason why I remember it was because my best buddy, Jamie, sitting right next to you.

I'm at the end. He's like in with you. And I go, you know, if we're on a group date like this and if we aren't trying to be affectionate with you or anything, it's out of respect for you. And I go, but if we are trying that, then maybe we have a different connection. saw you like you saw me. I was panicking like the fury god. So I'm like, or, you know, if we are trying, then maybe it's because we have a different connection than someone else. But I said, you know, we all have so much respect for you and we just don't want to, you know, and I remember. You saw my face and it was just like a ghost. Yeah. You're like, don't throw me out of the bus. And then we are, okay, so let's go back to the other one. So now we're on the spa date. Again, Jamie and I together, you know, the two. Of course, we're in a we're in a hot tub. I think half our relationship. Spend in a hot tub. And I love that you're saying half of our relationship,

meaning yours and bobs. Yeah, so I was going to say, because 90% of the relationship with Trista for you has been in a hot tub. Right. I have to say, I contracted ringworm in that hot tub, and I should have told Trista, so like any of the final suitors didn't...

Oh, my God. Whatever. This is his humor. He's kidding. He's kidding. Is that the Jamie? me no. His humor is like, trust me, Trista, he's kidding.

He's kidding. Okay. So let's cut back to the spa date and let's go from that. Okay, because this is where this one actually makes the, it does not end up on the cutting room floor. This one makes it into the season. Oh my God. So we're having a good time.

Like, we're in the hot tub. There's me, you. I don't know who else was in there. You're all I remember about. He goes, yeah, Ryan was on that day too. Ryan was there. That's amazing. So, and Ryan was the best, man.

He was awesome. I actually met him. He might have been the first person I met. And I'm kind of like, maybe this will be okay because I was really worried what type of person would be there. Yeah. And I remember sitting in the, I think I was in his limo, I want to say. Yeah, you were in the same limit. We were in the same limit.

Yeah. So he was just so nice and normal. And I remember he was saying he played football for the Panthers. And he just seemed kind of like this humble, smart. Yeah, nice guy. So I'm like, wow, this might be different than what I thought. Anyway, so the producers come up to me. I think we had a contest, Bob, and somebody's like,

whoever wins has to, you know, we're going to do a massage with Trista. Yeah. And Trista, nothing against you, but I didn't want to have a panic attack, right? So it could have been anybody. And I was praying it wasn't going to be me because I didn't want to have a panic attack. And then I won. I got it. So now I'm like, oh, my God.

Okay. What does that mean? I don't really know you yet, right? So we're having a massage and I actually felt, believe it or not, like I might remember this. I felt okay. And then we were talking about basic stuff, where are you from, just simple stuff, family, which is a little odd while getting massage in your basketball shorts. Right.

So I made it, but I made it through that. And I remember being like, all right, I did it. I got through. I'm done. Now I can go back to Bob. And I'm out there. I'm like, come to Papa. come back my little buddy so i can go back in the hot tub with bob and um and get ringworm

they get ringworm they're like you did it and it went well so yeah the ringworm that's a problem and then now they're like are you guys are going to get a shower and i just remember that's when i had a panic attack i'm like that's the fear of god like what does that mean am i like what do i don't even know what to do like i have an irish mother who's supremely catholic that's going to be watching and i'm like so i go in the shower and trust that you were you were so nice but i was so afraid i didn't know what to do i just started showering i remember like washing my armpits and like shampooing my head i'm like do you need any soap what kind of soap do you like the shampoo first or do you like the soap first which like but that's not what makes that's not

What makes it on the air. What makes it on the air is Jamie's interview. And then they slow it down. Yeah. Like, it's a super slow motion of me. Like, she goes, you know, maybe you can like massage my shoulders. So I basically just took a shower. Yeah.

But Trissa, that had a bit, like, you had to know like, oh, this is not going to work with this guy. Obviously, right after that shower. Oh, stop. No, no, no. That's not true. Tell them what you said, Jamie to get through it. The dead rats thing? Jamie's like, I remember I was sitting there rubbing her shoulder and she's so beautiful.

and all I could think to myself was dead rats, dead rats. And it's just like, we're at home going, what the hell does that mean? It might be the new Viagra commercial. You never know. That was so good. That's so funny. I remember feeling so uncomfortable. Like for you, like doing, was that uncomfortable?

It had to be uncomfortable for you, but you probably don't remember because you're on a bunch of this. You know, honestly, it's not as uncomfortable. I was just like, okay, this is just what we're doing. But I wasn't dealing with a panic disorder. So like, you know, from my mental position compared to yours was definitely very, very different. And I came from a very Catholic family too. And so that's why background story, I was like, you know, I'm not like the kissing bandit we're talking to right now. I'm not going to kiss everybody.

Oh, who, who? What? We're Protestant. We were like, oh, yeah, you're Protestant. No, stop. So, you know, I went into it thinking I don't want to look like I'm, you know, a flusy and a slut like they were calling me in the press. You had so much pressure on you.

It wasn't fair. I wasn't aware of that, that people were saying that. Oh, yeah. Actually, I think Chicago was one of the places that did an article. Anyway, whatever, it's all in the past. It's all good. but that's where my headspace was. You know, like I wanted to make sure

that I was very thoughtful about who I was, you know, being more like physical with. And I didn't want to be physical with everybody. All right, well, you know what? This is a great time to take a quick break. We've got so much more to talk about. So we are going to take a quick break right now and we'll be back with more.

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