The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: From The E.R. To The Bachelor with Dr. Travis Stork

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Bob Guiney is going way back to The Bachelor season 8 to catch up with a true Bachelor Nation OG, Dr. Travis Stork!The former leads compare their experiences on the show, and you won’t believe why Travis felt like he lived in a castle and Bob was in a haunted house!We hear the story of how a camping trip that never happened could have completely changed the course of his season.Plus, Dr. Stork answers our need-to-know health questions!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Almost Famous Podcast with IHeartRadio. Hey, everybody, Bob getting here for Almost Famous to OG podcast. I'm without my faithful partner in crime, Trista Sutter, nay, Wren. But today we are very excited to bring back a wonderful guest, Dr. Travis Stork. You'll know Dr. Travis Stork from the eighth season of The Bachelor, as well as 14 seasons of TVs, the Doctors, where he was the host, and just an awesome guy. I love this guy. He's such a great guest as well. He's willing to talk about everything.

So we're going to get into it a little bit today because last time he was on the show, we didn't really get into much about his particularly unique season of The Bachelor. I spent mine in a now completely foreclosed mansion in Malibu not complaining because it was still awesome. He, on the other hand, was in this glorious castle in Paris.

So we're going to get into that. We're also going to talk about, you know, some myths maybe, some food myths, some medical myths that are out there. And we're also going to find out, you know, what his favorite medical drama is. So we got a lot in store for you. Let's get into it. Let's bring him in.

Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Travis Stork. How goes it? Hey, hey, what's up, buddy? How are you? Let me dream. How about you? Much the same, man. We had so much fun with you last time on the show.

We thought we got to bring you back and catch up and check in with you. Are you still on sabbatical or where are you at with things right now? I'm working on a few things in the health space entrepreneurally, but, you know, primarily, as you know, the job number one, two, and three right now is daddy. I was going to say, right around the house, you and me both, buddy. Definitely. Makes it easy to kind of do an occasional podcast from my guest room upstairs. Yeah, it makes me feel better when you post stuff about you being on vacation and the reality of life.

Yeah, no, thank you, man. Yeah, it's funny. My wife has become this, this, she really loves doing Instagram stuff, right? And I just don't really enjoy it. So I'm always like, just run with it, you know, whatever you want to do. And so she'll put these, like, video montages together and everything. And for me, it really is. I'm just like, man, I'm getting a lot of good time with my kids.

I actually had someone say to me the other day, they were like, so do you even work? Like, what's your job? Because, I mean, you know, all you do is vacation. I'm like, hold on. I have kids, man, and they're under six. there's no such thing as vacation. All it is is going to a different zip coding, having them, you know, ignore me there.

Except it's even harder. Totally. I'd done with a big trip to Colorado and, you know, the kids obviously are a bit out of sorts. And yes, they're doing fun things they'll remember forever, whether it's going on the gondola or, you know, even just doing something silly like putting their feet in the stream. But, man,

like all of a sudden they're out of their routine and trying to put them to bed and oh it's brutal I know and then the reset then you come home and it's like what the hell I might as well never have had a bedtime for these kids because we went uh we went to Charlotte North Carolina last week we spent a week there just hanging out with our friends and man every night it was like you know 9 30 10 o'clock normally the boys are in bed by 8 and uh it was tough to get them off the off the thing there and then we finally bring them back around and there you go man it's like last night 945 I'm negotiating to get my six year old to lay down yeah we're in the statement right now after it's now bedtime super late in Nashville school starts so grace he'll be a

kindergartner and school starts in less than two weeks and I'm like wow you're doing the math in my head because you know bedtime is creep back by a few hours over the last since we went on vacation slash parenting from a different location and like how in the world am I going to get him back to one to bed by 7.38 so he can go to school in the morning.

Yeah, nice, Bob. I'm all at yours. No, buddy, trust me. I was hoping I was open to hear from you. Both of our gracens are defying their dad. This is not helpful at all. But, no, man, great to have you back on the show. You know, we realized last time we had, had you on. We didn't really get a chance to kind of dig in a little bit to the unique

bachelor experience you had. And we were talking about it earlier. And I was like, yeah, you know, it was so fun when I filmed my show, you know, we were in Malibu. And, you know, our most exotic location we went to was, you know, Snake River, Wyoming. And then four seasons later, Dr. Travis Storks filming in Paris. You know, I mean, you got to do some pretty, cool travel and I'm just curious you know like how did that whole thing happen for you I mean it's it was interesting um you know like my story I always thought was kind of unique because I didn't sit in myself to be on the show which I know you didn't either you were actually discovered in a restaurant and and my mindset was like gosh how is it like he's in a hospital as a resident you know

working these crazy hours I'm sure and then all of a sudden you're like you know what yeah I'll do it what the hell like how did that decision come about and how did you end up making the call to and how did your family and friends react to you going yeah i'll put this on hold for a little bit well luckily for me the so my family was very encouraging my sister was a huge fan of the show and she's like you're crazy you have to go do this and then fortunately for me the chairman of the emergency department was a huge fan of television in general oh nice and you know i'm i'll admit i was a little bit more naive like yeah this there's no way this is going to work i'm sorry i can't like take off and and yet ironically the support around me from the night at the restaurant I was surrounded by a bunch of my fellow yard docs so they were all there when this was sort of happening right you know they were getting free beer so they were all fired up and then you know but then when the chairman was like look if we can let's make this work go do this and and I was basically given that time away and

all of my shifts were covered by colleagues, which was so sweet of them. And yeah, it was such to juxtaposition because I was in the final year of my residency. It basically spent, you know how it is, day in, day out,

night in, night out in the hospital. And then all of a sudden I'm on a plane, first class to Paris. Wow. With nothing to do, but meet people, meet women, and live in a castle.

It was unreal. And to this, I'm so grateful for it because I have to give the producers credit. They went out and they found this, truly, this old school castle that was on hundreds of acres outside of Paris. And they were really nice to me in the sense that I was like, look, if we're going to go over there for this long and we're out in the country, you know, I want to be able to work out. and they put a little gym in the lower area. There was a mountain bike there for me, so I could get up and go mountain biking on the grounds of the castle. You know, there were still holes in the castle slash whatever.

I can't remember what war they were from, but there was so much history there. And so I would get up, because you know, filming doesn't start first thing in morning. I would get up on my bike and go bike to the local village and sit outside and drink my coffee. And I will say that looking back, I think I was there for six weeks maybe.

Does that sound about right? Yeah, probably, yeah, because that's all we did back then. Six, maybe eight at most, I would think, with the traveling stuff. In retrospect, those were six of the most amazing weeks of my life because I did not have all the stresses of life, ironically, disappeared and it really was. It was all about trying to meet someone and trying to discover if this journey had a happy ending and quite honestly being there, which was a big selling point for me to go, was it wasn't the icing on the cake. It was the cake. I mean,

it was, Bob, that's the cool thing is you get older, you have kids and you realize that experiences, adventures, they don't come along every day. All of a sudden, I mean, I'm in helicopters flying down to Champagne in France, going into the cellars and drinking all this wonderful champagne when, well, here I'm a guy who, I don't think I never had champagne in my life other than maybe this kid at Trader Joe's. It's too rough. What is going on?

right now. And so dinner on top of the Eiffel Tower and all those experiences. Yes, it's good for TV. But at the end of the day, these were real life experiences that I still have memories of and pictures of. And someday I'll show them to my kids probably. And you'll be like, sure, we'll go visit France and I'll be like, hey, kids, this is where daddy stayed. Why? Where's mommy? Yeah. Here's dad in the Eiffel Tower. Who's that? Dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so cool. I mean, it really was a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

And it, I think, added to, from a, you know, production standpoint, I think it added to the entry because it wasn't, every day wasn't the same. It was literally venturing out. And we went down to Venice. We went to the French Riviera. Wow. We went all over Europe. and Vienna

Switzerland and again in retrospect how cool is that oh my gosh I didn't have to book my own tickets and just like the airport

like wait a minute this is this is incredible I know right and here you know I was I was thinking my experience was amazing and then I started thinking about yours and I was like you know I was in Malibu

right and our exotic dates I mean don't get me wrong so think River Wyoming is cool right It is. I went to Alaska on a glacier. That was kind of cool. And then went to Belize. Those are my three, like, exotics or whatever.

But the whole time we were filming, you know, and Firestone and I laugh about this a lot when we talk. We were terrified. We were in the haunted house of the Bachelor Nation thing. It was like, it got condemned. If not after my season, I think after Jesse Palmer's season. And you'd lay there in bed and you'd look up and it's all cameras and lights. And you're just like, are they watching me sleep?

You know, like, you'd be all stressed. There were cameras in your room. There were cameras throughout the entire place. Because when they first set it up for filming, well, I shouldn't say cameras in my room. There were, I was new to that whole world, right? So there were lights because they would do like your ITMs or whatever. They do those sometimes in the bedroom with a view out the window. So they had different lights they could control.

So you'd look around the room and you'd see lights and you'd see an occasional microphone here and there. in case they wanted ambient sound for things. And in my mind, I'm like, yeah, there's definitely a camera up there. Firestone was so stressed out about it. He would go sleep in the closet. He had a single mattress in his closet because it was his big walking closet. And he's like, I can't sleep, man. So he'd go in there and close himself in the closet.

But when we talk about it, he's like, yeah, I just knew they were watching me sleep. And I'm like, what if I'm, you know, farting in my sleep or something? Do I don't want that to show up on the show? And so he was all stressed out about it. It was pretty funny. You're like, wait, what is this little thing on the show? shampoo bottle in the shower. Oh,

you're out. Major camera. Nowadays, I know they would do that. But back then, you know, I don't think we had that technology, thank God. I will say maybe this is one of the advantages of having done it abroad.

You know, realistically, there was one part of this medieval castle slash property where it was this really beautiful. You walk in, this huge great room. And it was, it was where the rose ceremonies were and everything else but then the part where i actually

stayed and lived was so separate from all that so it's almost i would climb up the stairs at the end of the day and i would retreat to my own little oasis i had my own little kitchen back there and oh that's nice so i could go back up there make a sandwich you know um get ready for better had no cameras, no, I wasn't, it was kind of nice, I'd shut that door and it's almost like I could turn off the experience of being filmed and just back to the basics of like, who am I, what am I feeling? And going through all the emotions of like, oh my gosh, today was a great day. I really enjoyed spending time with so-and-so, like, you know, what, what am I actually feeling right now? Yeah. I think when you're, you know this better than anyone, when there's constantly a camera in front of you, you can't unwind. I would not well in your guy's circumstance. I would not. I would have done what energy I would have gone into the closet or I would have put a pillow in the bathroom.

They put my cameras in there too. Yeah, you know, I mean, it was definitely a different experience because I do love the idea of, when the show's gone abroad, I think it's, because it is kind of cool, right? There's, like, more to it, you know, from the standpoint of just the countryside and kind of that difference in culture and all that kind of stuff.

And I would imagine that was just, I mean, it had to just ratchet things up to a whole new world. So, yeah, I was a little jealous, but because I like you so much, I was like, all right, damn it, I'm going to be okay with this. But I thought it was so great, dude.

Now we're both at the point in life where you think that, to those experiences and you know we were just talking about being on vacation with the kids aka parenting in a different location so when we're in Colorado with the kids I would get up at like 5 a.m. and go for a bike ride yeah back to when I was in Paris I remember one of the cool things about the chaos of being abroad is obviously there's so much going on on the production side that they kind of lose track of you so it's like oh, Okay, Travis, you know, meet on the front lawn at 2 p.m.

Right. We're going to go to downtown Paris today. So until 2 p.m., you know, I get up, I go literally hop on the bike, go do whatever I was going to go do, come back, make some breakfast. And then just show up at 2 p.m. and throw on some of the, you know, the nice clothes. Right, right. Like, get changed into your wardrobe for the day. Yeah. edge of your sweater. Let's do this.

The stuff you'd wear all the time anyway, right? Your riding jacket. I mean, this is kidding. It's not cotton. Yeah, no, yeah, of course. I don't wear cotton. I'm the bachelor guy. No, it's funny that you say that because I, my experience was like, there was always someone in my, in my space. And that was really hard for me, because even though I'm a pretty social guy, I do love having some alone time. And I, yeah, that whole time we were filming,

And if I had anything that was kind of like my Achilles heel of that whole thing, it was being constantly feeling like I couldn't say anything or do anything, you know, because they were always lurking, you know, and they were always right in my space and my purview. And then I think I told you this last time we talked, but I discovered the basement of the lower level of the house I was in. And I brought it up to fire study. He's like, I don't think I saw that.

I'm like, oh, yeah. They had it kind of like, you couldn't even. see it and I found it one day. It had like a sliding glass door and stuff. And it was production central. Like it was where they had the boards up for the rose ceremonies and where they did all the camera two is, the camera five, with all the kind of good stuff. And I was like walking around and I'm like, what is going on in here? You know, and I actually found the contact information for all the girls on my season. And I knew I wasn't allowed to have it. So I wrote it all down and then I sent them all a thank you card for being on the show, right? And I didn't tell

anyone. And at the men tell all, or the women tell all special, they were all so nice to me because I had said, you know, I had said nice things. Like, hey, it was really nice meeting you. And I hope, you know, when you got home with your family, you realize what a fun experience this was or whatever. And, uh, and they're like, they were looking for for sparks. They were looking for people to be, you know, mad at me and yelling at me and stuff. And everyone was super nice. And they're like, what the hell happened? And I know I wasn't until about a year or two later that I finally came clean and I was like yeah guys I need to tell you something you know and I don't even know why I told him I should have just got to quiet but I thought it was funny that's brilliant and

you know I do have a thought so Bob when when your season was on they're like you know Bob has a winning personality we can put them in this house we don't need anything extravagant with me they're like ah this guy's a doc really boring we're gonna meet me empty here we're gonna be oh man we're gonna I mean, trips all across yours. Yeah, right. You know what? That's very sweet of you to say, but I think it was a perfect thing, and I think that you crushed it.

And, you know, I mean, it had to be such a different vibe, I would think, with the women, too, you know, because that was one of the things I started noticing when those seasons, you know, seasons after mine, they would always be like, okay, well, you know, but you usually wait until after the first rose ceremony or something. And they were like, all right, ladies pack up, we're going tomorrow, we're flying to Thailand or whatever. And they're like, oh, my God, you know.

And it was interesting, you know, I thought it was really interesting. Did you notice anyone, you know, I mean, because obviously, you know, you weren't someone who came from The Bachelor at first to then be the Bachelor. So did you, like, find when you'd be out filming in the streets of Paris that people would be like, what is going on? Would they be paying attention? Or was it the French, you know, I always think of the French as being like, you know, they just walk right past and they'll care? Did you get anybody, like, paying special attention to you and possibly, like, taking pictures? Because, I mean, there could have been American tourists there who would be like, oh, this is the bachelor. I know what this is.

I think there was definite curiosity. It's not the fandom that you think of in America where you see a camera and everyone's like, oh, my gosh, what's going on? Right. Definite curiosity, because we spent so much time, even in the streets of Paris, that you're walking by a corner cafe, and you know how it is. It's just, you know, we're sitting out there. smoking a cigarette, having a cup of coffee or an espresso, and there's definitely that element of entry. And I will say that this is my first time I'd ever been in front of a camera.

So it's not like I was so natural. Right. I remember back then, obviously now I've spent plenty of years in front of the camera. Yeah, you've done more than all of us combined at this point. I would actually, I never liked it when you knew. there was this backdrop of people just eavesdropping on what was happening because it just it felt more more so than the cameras I don't know why but it felt like thieves dropping like yes literally you're in front of cameras it's going to be telecast to millions but there was something about you know when when the people were just kind of watching and trying to figure out what was going on yeah and you know you felt I bet you felt scrutinized right yeah I felt more uncomfortable in those situations than any other. And again, I don't know why.

It's just maybe part of the whole experience. I'd never, you know, I'd never had people staring at me before. Right. Right. I was wearing a hat hanger sweater. He looks like a cotton guy to me. I don't understand what that'd do. No, you know, it's funny. I know what you're saying because you were mic, you were miced.

And, you know, so you knew everything you were saying was going out there. But you also, you know, one of the things that happens that people I don't even think realize when you're filming a show like this is you're kind of in this little bubble, right? And so you're having a conversation with someone and the only person that need to understand what you're saying and why you're saying it or whatever is are the two of you, right? Or the three of you, or whoever's in that conversation. And when you got someone kind of eavesdropping in, I would almost feel like they're scrutinizing what I say.

So, man, I better make this an awesome, you know, moment for everyone. I would feel so much additional pressure too. I totally get what you're saying. I mean, I can only imagine. and, you know, coming up with something unique and different, you know, to say in a moment when you're just sort of, like, floored by the whole thing yourself, too. It's like, I'm sure, you know, you almost, and I know how they do it, you know, with the production side of things where you almost have to act like you're the one that plan the date or you're

the one that came up with this idea for the date today. Today, my idea is to take us to the top of the Eiffel Tower and we're going to have dinner, right? And they'll be like, oh, my God, I chose you, Debbie. And in fact, you were handed a card that said, you're taking Debbie to the top of the rifle shower for dinner. You know, you're like, great, okay. You know, and I always thought that was a funny part, too.

I mean, that had to be interesting, I would imagine, acting like you'd been there before, you know, when you, had you been to Paris before at all? Or was that your first trip overseas? You know, the old school, they say backpacking through Europe. Yeah, to Europe. Yeah. But one of you just, you know, got the train ticket on 10 bucks a day. Went from hostel to hostel.

So, yeah, I'd been to Paris, but obviously not in this, you know, in this fashion. Right. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,

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but the most fun that I had, ironically, they're like, hey, Travis, what would be your ideal date? And I said, you know, we've been doing all these extravagant things. It's almost too much. And if I'm really going to get to know some of these people, I'd love to do a camping trip. Nice. We did tents, smores, all that stuff. and I know it was probably rudimentary compared to all the other really eccentric things we were doing but it was really cool because it was

it was actually you know it was a concept I was like this would make a lot of sense right now because we're at a point in this process where I just I really want to figure out what does this look like without all the glitz and glamour of care right because you know you can get confused and you're trying to like figure everything out trying to figure out okay what's this going to look like if I go back home. And I think that was one of the coolest nights I had just because it was. It was about a fire, slores, a tent, stars, and just same conversations you would have if you were out camping anywhere in the world. Yeah. It just so happened, you know, that there

were a few cameras there. Sure. Yeah. I had some, I, I, I, Duff, you know, Kevin. Well, I think that's great that you even had the wherewithal to make that call. You know what I mean? Because I think a lot of people in that moment would be like, oh, I don't know, whatever you guys think, you know, and it's great that you put something out there that meant something to you because you're right, man, you can get super, I mean, like I said, we're in this little bubble when you're doing it,

and you can get kind of almost like run down in these moments where you're like, oh, here we are in Gay Paris, here I am taking a helicopter into volcano. It's like, I remember saying on my season at a rose ceremony, I really thought, I honestly thought, that they were going to use it because it was funny. And I remember saying, you know, I got my rose and I'm like, you know, ladies, before we get started, I just want to say, this is no prize. This is a lot of work here, right? And, you know, those of you who are getting sent home tonight, you're welcome. And for those of you who are staying, I'm from Detroit, man. And it's a point that it's part that I tell you guys is, we don't take volcano tours and helicopters in Detroit, okay? That's not what we're doing there. We do a bunch of fun stuff, but that ain't it. And hopefully, you know, someone who will like the stuff I like, you know,

And so I love that you, and I said all that, and I'm like, this is gold, man. I said, they're going to use it for sure. Never made the show. And, you know, so I'm glad that you put your foot down a little bit. It was like, hey, why don't we do something that I want to do? And, you know, and it's interesting, too, because I, so I didn't get engaged on my season. And I don't know if people remember this or not, but you didn't get engaged on your season either, right? And I mean, were you kind of deep into the process and where you kind of made a mental note?

Like, I don't think I'm ready to marry these people or was it more like I think I want to continue? Because my thing was more like I wanted to try dating away from all of that, you know, because I had been, you know, in a long-term relationship before and I didn't want to be the guy that was just racking up weddings like Ross from friends. You know, I wanted to be somebody who was trying to be mindful. Where were you at with that decision at that time? if you can recall and did the producers when they found out you weren't going to propose, they tried to change your mind? I think everyone knew that I was going into this authentically, and I highly doubted that I was going to come to the end of the experience and be engaged.

Obviously, I didn't know, but I think one of the things that I have trouble with, and I'm just going to speak frankly, is I think people feel all this external pressure on the show to get engaged. and I think it's perfectly fine and appropriate to get engaged, but only to do so if that's the right thing for you. Right. To your point, you know, it's one thing, it's one thing to be going on all these dates, particularly in my season where you're all over Europe

and you're just doing all these wonderful things, and you're another party just like, okay, here's the reality. I'm an ER doc. On this particular night, there's more than, likely chance I'm not even going to be home and right well I'm probably going to have blood on my shoes and there's not going to be you know as cargo waiting for you what's going to be shape right throw my clothes in the in the washer and you know conk out and that's just the reality of life is very different I think I think it's important um at least for me it was important to not forget

But there's this real life back in the States and not to confuse the two. And I, again, look, there was always a chance, right? If you meet the one and you know, it doesn't matter whether you're on The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, whether you're on TV, you're at the coffee shop. And I think my biggest takeaway, and the older I've gotten, I've always said this. I think when it comes to meeting someone, it's back to the hell in, or quote, life is either a daring adventure or nothing. You've got to put yourself out there.

But the one thing cannot do is that or put pressure on yourself. Because adding that pressure, I think, makes it more difficult. And if you feel like, oh my gosh, I've got to, if you're really, this is my whole opinion, if you're really that confused between four different people and I can't decide which one I'm getting it to, I think it's probably best to not get engaged. The answer is no one. Yeah. No, I'd agree with you on that one, man.

Whenever people come down to the end, I mean, and they, you know, I think back in the day, especially, you know, when everyone used the word amazing 5,000 times because we were repeating what the producers would say to us, you know, you know, repeat what I say to you in my question so that, you know, the audience at home knows what. Today I had an amazing day with Debbie Renda and Rhonda. It was amazing, right? And I think that a lot of times they'll say, you know, I'm so confused. I, you know, and I get it.

I get being confused because, I mean, you know, let's not kid ourselves. They're not casting any slouches on this show, right? Everybody on the show is an alpha, you know, they've always been the one who achieves. They're the captain of the cheerleading team, the president of the class, you know, the whole bet. But they don't ever ask, you know, before they go on the show,

like, you know, well, I guess they do ask, you know, are you ready to get married? And the answer is always yes, right? But the real question should be, you know, are you ready to go through a period of the biggest uncertainty of your life? and at the end have someone and be able to watch this back at home, by the way, have someone basically saying

to the exact same stuff he's saying to you got a job to do, right? He's got to get this show to this certain point where everyone's up in the air and wondering what's going on. And then all of a sudden he gives you the ring, right? So we've had seasons where they've said I love you to more than one woman.

We've had seasons where they've promised that more than one women's going to be the last one standing at getting the engagement ring. I thought, I really did think when I was on the season as on my season I thought I was doing the right thing not proposing and trying to figure out where things would go with the cameras off and it wasn't you know it wasn't like I thought that I was being I was trying to be as genuine as I could be with that decision because

I didn't want to mess anybody's life up you know by taking away that first in their life of an engagement when I wasn't sure where my head was at you know and it wasn't what I did know was I wasn't ready to get engaged. That was the one thing I did know, right? And I, but I was also kind of like, I like both of these girls, but, you know, which one do I think I have the best chance of having a long-term relationship? I'm going to choose this one, but I'm not ready to get engaged. And so, I mean, I always thought that was just such a noble move, you know, and then you get so much backlash after you don't propose. People are just beside themselves with their opinions. Did you face any of the backlash after the show? I don't, I don't think so. At the same time,

I wasn't really paying attention to it. I think that gets back to the only thing you can do is have your own individual, authentic experience. Be true to yourself. Also, you're staying true to the people on the show with you. Right. If you're, you know, I can't sit here and say to you that if I did the Bafsler experience over again,

which obviously I'm not going to because I'm married. And I wouldn't get me. It's not a, you know, do you get engaged, will you get engaged? It's, if you meet the person on the show that you genuinely feel like you want to get married to, I think it is perfectly appropriate to get engaged. Where I have an experience is back to what you just said, and I'm not going to name names, but, you know, there are times where my wife and I will tune into the show, and I see someone like literally telling four or five people in a row how much they love them.

They've never seen anyone like this. And then once they, it's like, I love you so much. I love it. And you're like, this is all into air. Yeah, you do realize you got to go home, right? And see your friends and family. No one is ever going to believe you ever again when you love them. You love them because, you know, it's, I mean, throwing that word out that comfortably that often, that's like, to me, that is less authentic and getting engaged at the end of that.

is almost a disservice as opposed to I actually think it's really great when and I feel like again it's not like I'm sitting there pouring over every episode of every season but when I've tuned in with my wife and you see the authenticity

and sometimes it's literally as simple as like you know what I had to send so-and-so home because like I was so in love with whoever they end up choosing that it's just like this other person to play this game anymore and I think that is like not only authentic and awesome

but ironically is TV gold too because it's just like this person found their other person and they're done playing the game and they've been honest about it and quite frankly that's what this is the whole journey is about it's not necessarily

be down to the last three or four and be like oh any meanie moe and I think the best seasons are the ones where two people, whether they get engaged or not, but two people meet that really have a connection and it becomes obvious at the very end, like that that's it. The ones where, yeah, where you're like, how, like, I'm sorry, dude, but you can't love seven people at once. It's just not impossible. Well, you know, it's funny. I think, too, I think, like, to what you're saying, people making that kind of a decision where they're like, like, like,

like you said, I'm sending this one home because I'm just so into this one that it's not fair to do this anymore. I love that because back and I think back in the early years, they kind of held you to that script more. And now when people kind of go off, I feel like it really legitimizes the show too. Like it helps the show, right? Like the show actually, I think, I think the producers finally realized to what your point is, was like, man, this is actually starting to get like a real relational response as opposed to a TV show response. That's way better. Like people actually get it. Like, you can't really find love from this thing, right? I didn't, you didn't, but I also think of it like from

the butterfly effect. Like if I hadn't done it, maybe I wouldn't have met my wife. We wouldn't have our two kids now, right? Because things, right? Everything happens for a reason. I'm introduced to my wife by a mutual friend named Chris Stranberg. Chris Cupcake was on the Bachelorette. He is a dentist. He came on the doctors as a guest, lived in Nashville. I got to be friends with Chris. I'm in Nashville with Chris and Chris was like, You know what? I asked when I think you should meet. I would never have met my wife if I wasn't on The Bachelor. There you go. Yeah, you're a direct connect for that.

Well done. Now, I do have a question about that. Did you fall in love with your wife because of your experience in Paris and her name was Paris? Just got to put it out there. Of course. That's the only reason. I found love in Paris. You did indeed, my friend.

My boyfriend's professor. is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The Holiday Rush. Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.

Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.

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Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten. Monica Penn. Elaine Welter-off. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go.

I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. So what I want to try now, this is going to be fun because I also. realized that I am, I'm getting older. And as I get older, I need medical advice. So I have some questions I want to ask you. I want to rapid fire with you. I mean, this is nothing you're not used to from your experience. Yes, Bob. Internal hemorrhoids are painless. External hemorrhoids are

the ones that cause pain. So that's, I like the question. Finally. Okay, thank you. I didn't even have to say it. I really appreciate it. That was in my private text message to you earlier, but I appreciate you asking that one. All right. Um, one. Um, one of the things that drives me crazy about, I don't even know, I guess it would be the FDA or the nutrition stuff, is like, you'll hear everything's bad for you. Then you'll hear, okay, now it's good for you. Egg yolks, right? Like they'll say, oh, yeah, you know, egg whites only, and now all of a sudden egg yolks are good for you. Red meat. Red meat's bad for you. Now it's like red meat's good for you. What do you think about all that kind of stuff? Like, I know this isn't,

this isn't even meant to be funny. This is really meant to be more informational because I appreciate your opinion on this stuff, and I loved watching when you were on the doctors. So I may be a little bit more emphatic in this than most people, but my theory is always like, all right, so how was this made or raised? So, for instance, let's use gummy bears, right? So I buy my kids gummy bears that have nothing but fruit in them. They're great. Eggs. So if I'm going to eat a highly nutritious egg where, you know, the hind and laid that egg has this like decent.

of life eating good food like that's going to be a higher quality egg yep just like red meat you know I come from a family of farmers in Nebraska and I'll be honest with you on their farm the red meat the the animals were conventionally raised fed corn primarily high high carb diets and like even put on antibiotics to fatten them up like you eat that red meat you're going to get some of the after effects of all of that as opposed to, you know, grass fed, free range. And again, my theory has always been less is more, higher quality is better. And at the end of the day, like for things that I'm a big guy, right, so I need to eat enough calories to get through the day, like my go-toes are always things like nuts and beans and the things that are quite frankly going to fill me up

without filling me out. But when it comes to things, eggs, you know, when I went out to medical school, that was the phase of don't eat anything with fat and I don't eat anything with cholesterol. But now I eat probably two eggs a day. Yeah. And for me, it's because you're 54, right?

I'm 54, yeah. Well, I'm 53. And at our age, once you get past 50, like we've got to get that protein more so than we do when we're younger. And it's a great protein. protein other nutrients so absolutely red meat's another example where you know I grew up eating red meat every meal because again my family's background and I got so sick of it I was honestly just like oh my god I don't want to eat any more red meat so I went through a phase where I pretty much cut

out red meat was eating you know white meat fish things like that now again I'm in my 50s and I appreciate when I eat a good piece of red meat um that I'm getting nutrients that I may not otherwise get. I don't do it every meal. And if I'm going to eat a piece of red meat, I would rather do it less frequently and get a really good filet or something like that. Yeah.

A great example is just coming back from Colorado, one of the things I love when I'm out in Colorado is, wherever you go, you can always find grass-fed beef on the menu. Oh, yeah. I love it too. I love it out there. that's why Ben Higgins looks so damn good all he does is sit there and eat all this grassbed stuff you know but anyway

I was the roundabout way of saying that I think that rules tend to create problems when it's like when we just chastise entire food groups because same thing look there are people out there

who will tell you never eat a vegetable and the only thing red meat yeah my whole thing in life is balance balance and it is okay too like if you're going to go get a cappuccino and I'll admit maybe I'm too evil I can't help

but I'm 53 I've got family history of things like diabetes I've got to like watch out for everything from cholesterol etc like I will I'll say okay cappuccino oh would you like hold no but like well is it

this is anal it's an organic yeah no there's the profile that health wise is very different right you know it's again that's just part of where my

has developed over the years and I've seen how much food can play a role in overall all this I'm sure you've seen a lot too you've seen a lot of the worst sides of that stuff in your and your practice over the years too I'm sure even before you know before you were even doing the TV stuff where I mean I remember watching one episode of the doctors where you were talking about obesity you're talking about you know in that all stem from the food that they were eating and and I honestly it made me think about this when I was thinking about this today was what about the big thing going on right now with like such easy access to like ozempic and wagg I don't I don't know the wazoo or whatever they're called like

there's a bunch of names for them now these gLP ones I mean I see it on my side of things which is like the insurance side of things I see that there's you know so many more claims now like gastrointestinal claims things of that nature and I'm curious about your thoughts on that I mean part of me is like hey it's great that people who are obese and need assistance are getting it, right? But, you know, I'm not sure how great it is for people who don't need that assistance and just need to have diet and exercise, but they're skipping that step and they're going straight to the shots or the pills. You know, what are your thoughts on that kind of stuff, too? I agree. I agree with you. I think there is a population out there that

greatly benefits from these medications, and I think they can be lifesavers. I think I also have friends who literally are my age, who are not diabetic. They're not even severely overweight, and yet they want to take this little shortcut. And I'm like, come on. Right. This is ridiculous. This is not what these are designed for. I think the shortcut mentality, if anything, it's going to give you a shortcut, in my humble opinion, to the grave.

I think everything life gets back to balance. But if you want to live a long life, even more than exercise, what you eat is number, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Yes. Exercise and strength training, especially as you get older, is hugely important because muscle mass, the more you have a bit, honestly, the more your body is going to just do a great job of internally burning calories. But the problem with these drugs, and my humble opinion is when the wrong people start

taking them, like if I started taking it right now, it's realistically going to help only lose some weight, but there's also a very good chance that it's going to slightly shift my profile where I might lose lean muscle mass, which by the way weighs more. So you lose, yeah, yeah, you're losing weight, but if you're losing lean muscle mass, that is not a good thing. So if you're obese and you need this to help you improve your blood glucose levels and and lose weight and get healthier, it's a great medicine and a great class.

Yeah. But what I've seen in my career in Western medicine is I'll just call it the abuse of medications within the system. And it's augmented by, you know, patients don't feel like they're getting taken care of if you don't give them a medicine. Yeah.

It's ironic because here I have the power to prescribe and I'll be completely transatlantic. A couple years ago, I had to start taking a medication for blood pressure because I have familiar hypertension and I just, I need it. Otherwise, I'm. And so, again, these can be lifesavers. But, you know, taking more medicines is never going to be the answer. At the end of the day, if you can commit to, if you can simplify your diet to, for the most part, eating those fluids that we know helping live. longer.

Yeah. That's the way to do it. And it's like dating out. And if you want to look as good as Bob Guinea, that's what you do. Play a lot of golf and drink a lot of vodka. That's what you do. That's about it. That's my regimen as of late.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly. And now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on. the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold

up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush.

Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism.

Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Danielle Fischel. Rider Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World.

And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.

We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage, and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's Carrot Top, Baby. And finally, we all, L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss.

Listen to PodMeets World on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time Novak Djokovic. The world's number one, mild tennis player. I've won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses.

I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis

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I actually, you know, I love hearing you say that because I went, I think I may have told you this before, but I went and got my first blood panel done at 52. I hadn't even done it before. I mean, maybe I'd done it years past that I don't remember it. And my cholesterol, and I was always, and my wife will tell you. you this, I would always go, well, I'm not, my stuff's great, you know, I had no idea, because I didn't have any health conditions, but I do have family history of heart disease, diabetes, things of that nature. And so I went, so I went to, got a blood panel done,

and it came back with my cholesterol, my bad cholesterol with sky high. Now, I know that some people have an opinion about that because the numbers shift, you know, according to that. But the one thing I did not want to do was be put on a statin, right? So I'm like, okay, talking to my doctor, I'm like, I don't want to do that. It's like, why am I? Because I've heard that once you do it, never could come off of that. And I don't want to be on anything for the rest of my life. And I'm like, so what can I do? He's like, he's a buddy. He's like, you got to lose like 15, 20 pounds. But you do that. It might help your cholesterol, at least from that standpoint of you not, you know, it might help you lose weight. It might help your other panels. And then you got

like, like you said, we got to watch what you eat. You know, I'm like, well, I'm eating a lot salmon. I'm eating a lot of chicken. He's like, if it's not, if it's farm-raised salmon, then don't eat it. Right? He's like, if it's this, he's like, because you don't know what goes into it. If it's this and this and it was very similar to what you just said. He's like, you know, if it's free range, if it's this, then you can feel comfortable eating it. But he was a big believer with that. He was like, you put margarine out on a, on your porch and you put butter out on your porch. And watch that there are no flies or bugs in the margarine. He's like, they all go to the butter because they know that's the real stuff and this is the fake stuff right so he's like

and it was kind of an interesting way to think about it and um you know i really did do that i cut back a lot on what i was drinking but it was definitely one of those things where it was like you know kind of it's kind of your point i was like it's 95% what i put in my mouth and 5% of what i'm doing on the bench right it's like that's and i started realizing that i kind of had it backwards all those years i thought i was working out so i could eat whatever i want when in fact i needed to kind of do it the other way around, right? I needed to eat what I should and then, you know, work out so I look the way I want, you know. I think we've all kind of gone through that metamorphosis, especially when you're younger,

you know, you're so focused on the vanity element of, oh, you know, I'm going to do five sets of bench press here. Yeah. I'm not even going to think about what I'm going to eat afterwards. And, you know, you get to our age and you're like, all right, if I can get, if I do one set of bench press and spend maybe a few more minutes thinking about what I'm going to eat, that's probably the better payoff. Well, I have to say one thing for anyone listening, and we've done this in our own life.

So much like you, COVID hit, you have kids, overeats, you start hitting the easy button. I have to say that one of the most important things is if you're eating out, take the time to find out what oils they use because I actually went from having really good cholesterol numbers to mine skyrocketed. over the last few years. And part of that's because, like, anyway, most of my meals, yes, we eat at home, but you find yourself more often than not or more often than before hitting that easy button.

And you may even be ordering something that you think is sort of healthy, but if it's made in really shitty oils, like peanut oil, things like that. Yeah, and so I think the biggest thing is just to understand, like, for me, if a restaurant only used to, say, avocado oil or olive oil, like, that's a thumbs up.

And then also just pay attention because sometimes I noticed some of my favorite restaurants in Nashville, we'd eat it, and it was supposedly healthy. And I'd always feel after, you know, and then you find out, like, maybe they're using way too many oils, maybe they're, I'm not willing at this stage of my life to sacrifice my long-term hell just because an restaurant chooses do you shoddy oils as opposed to oils that I know, I think of all the oil is a lubricant for my arteries. and I think of some of the others is absolute sandpaper, right? Like, just cause you to stop. Yeah, totally. You get to this age where, you know, I had that atrial fibrillation episode a couple years ago. You, all of a sudden, this is no longer about, hey, this is what you should do to be healthy.

This is like, hey, this is what I do because God's honest truth, like, I don't want to die of a heart attack tomorrow. Right. It's quite possible if these little. small decisions, I call them small decisions you make every day, but if you make that same decision every single day, let's say your favorite restaurant uses

really bad oils and you eat that meal every day, that could be the thing that cuts 10 years off your life. Yeah. Crazy. For us, we got, at our age, we got young kids. It's like, that's the last thing. I mean, I have no intention of not being there, you know, for my

boys' weddings, high school and college graduations. You know, granted, I'm going to be the dude on the walker that they're going to go, oh, your grandpa's at your time. t-ball game. How nice? But that's okay. I'm prepared for that. Prepared for people talking smack. But, you know, I want to make sure I'm there, you know, so for the long run. And that, yeah, to your point, I mean, that's when I started making different decisions, right? Like you said, small decisions that you make every day, but it really is a decision that can change things.

I mean, yeah, I loved it. So, well, Amy, I love having you on the show. Man, I can't wait. Next time I'm in Nashville, I'm calling you so we can hang out because I want that. I want to spend some time with you and get to know Paris and we have golf courses and we have vodka here so we're good to go these are things I do these are my things all right well I love it man thank you and we'll definitely make sure we do it last last question of my doctor thing today uh were you a gray's anatomy guy or an ER guy what was your show I'm more ER I mean it yeah would you say it's more accurate was it ER more accurate too like to depictions you know I didn't know at the time because I wasn't yet an ER doctor,

but one of the things that they do in that show or did in that show is they tried to make it as accurate as possible, which is so cool. You would think that half the time you're in the hospital, you're having sex in the call room, right? Never done that. Like, when I've been in the hospital, I'm, like, working. It's not.

You're right. Yes, it happens. But what's cool about that show is, and I love this about television. The one thing I love about television is, like, if you TV in the right way can really like bring things to life like that the chaos that you feel when you wash a yard I kind of fell in love with it yeah and actual reality of being in the ER you fall in love with it because the adrenaline of it all the last thing you ever feel is

bored you're just like right oh vote here here here here oh and then yeah 10 hours later your bladder's completely full and you're like oh my god what just happened was yeah It was something. And, you know, you get to the end of watching an hour of ER, and I'm sure a lot of people listening probably, they may not even remember it, but you get to the end of an hour of watching that show, and you're like, wow, I'm exhausted.

I'm tired. I need to go to bedman. I'm spent. Well, now there's the pit, right? Noah Wiley came out with the show The Pit. Have you watched that one? I watched one episode. I want to watch the rest.

But my wife, my wife literally said, why do you want to watch this? This is just what you do at work. And I'm like, well, how they're doing it. And so now she comes back to me a few weeks after we watched the first episode. She's like, oh, I read the reviews are great. You should watch it. You're like, you try to talk to me out of it.

What do you talk about, Paris? I'll watch you live new. Hey, man. Well, we should probably binge watch it together so we can be ready for our next interview. All right, but next thing it can be called the OG goes into the pit. There you go. I like it. This is good.

This is good. Producers take note. Well, hey, man, always a pleasure having you on, brother. Thank you so much for coming to the show. And thanks for sharing what going on with your life. I'm excited to hear about the stuff you're working on. Maybe we can get into that next time and hear about the direction you're going with those entrepreneurial ideas. But I'm sure they're going to be great and hugely successful because I just, that's what I expect from you, my friends.

So keep up the good work and keep up the good dad. Well, and this is fingers crossed for both of us that over the next few weeks our kids start going to bed earlier. Amen, buddy. I'm with you. I am with you. Cheers to you, brother. Take care, Travis. Dr. Travis Stork. God, I love that guy, man. I swear to God, I think he and I would just be the absolute best of buddies if we lived close by. But we're going to figure it out when I go to Nashville next time. So thank you all so much for listening in here and watching the almost famous OG podcast. I am Bob Guinea, of course, without my

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