The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Happily Ever After with Ryan Sutter

Episode Date: November 3, 2022

It's finally happening! Ryan Sutter is joining his wife Trista and former Bachelorette competitor Bob Guiney as our Almost Famous OGs! We hear everything about the surprise birthday party Ryan threw for Trista!  And Bob shares exactly why HE is the reason Ryan and Trista got together at the end of their season of The Bachelorette. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's us. Welcome, everybody. That's us. I know. And how are you, my friend? Happy birthday. Happy belated. Thank you.

Thank you. You're very welcome. I finally joined your club, the 50. It's a good club. It's a good club. You know, I've been here for a while. I've been here for a while, and I've just been kicking it by myself. I'm so thankful to have somebody else here with me.

Thank God you're here. Oh, I'm here. I'm here. I do have to say I have not been feeling well. So if my energy level is a little low, that's why. But I'm excited to talk to our guest today. I am, too. You know, something about this guest, and I want to tease this a little,

because I don't know if anyone knows who he is yet. He was my roommate, actually. on the first season of The Bachelorette. We were bunkmates in a giant mansion bedroom. Did you actually have bunk beds or were there just mattresses on the floor? They were all single beds. So, like, I mean, there probably were bunk beds, I would imagine, but instead of stacking them, I think they knew better.

You know, now they stack them. But back then, it was all single beds. And Ryan and I were pretty close to, oh, shit, I just gave it away. I just gave away. It's okay. He's coming in literally a minute, so it's all good. So, yes. One of my favorite people from the show, a very dear friend of mine, and you kind of

know him too, I guess, but I think the show today is really about he and I. I mean, it's really our connection. Ryan's in the waiting room. Yes. Yes. Yeah, Ryan Sutter, come on in. I don't think he needs much introduction, but. He does not.

I mean, if you are, if you're going to call you and I, the OGs, he is the only other, the only other guy that's still in the, in the Bachelor, Bachelor Nation, what do you call it, zeitgeist? That says, oh, geez is us. What the heck is that word? Zitegeist. Oh, you know, we journalists use this word. We podcasters. We use areas. We use areas. What's up, Rob? Oh, hi, handsome. How are you, buddy? I'm good. Can you guys hear me? Yes. Okay, good. Audio is on point. Can't even hear you upstairs. I mean, it's perfect technology.

Perfect technology. I like it. I like it. Right phone. The ride of the hotline. Yeah, right. I know. Yeah, I mean, as I said, I haven't been feeling well.

So we are in separate rooms. I'm trying to keep this guy. healthy as you know Bob he's been dealing with some health stuff and one of the things babe that I wanted to have you come on and talk about today because I feel like people always want to know whenever I post anything is how you're feeling so can you tell everybody a little bit about what's going on lately how you're feeling sure but before I do I think you guys should title this episode, Ryan and Trista talk about their separation. Did that be some nice clickbait?

I love it. They're like separation. What do you mean? Well, Ryan was downstairs. Trista was upstairs. What? We didn't sit there. I like that.

See? Oh my gosh. Yes. We're doing that. Yes. And there's just a picture. It's not any audio. We're just going to say Ryan and Tristo talk about their separation.

like a caption. Yeah, totally. Perfect. It'll be huge. Huge. I guess going back to your original question, I'm just tired today, but that's just

because I've been working, but just gone from work. And so I think if you're starting, like, if you want to start, like, right this moment, I'm just a little bit tired. But lately, I've been feeling pretty good. You know, I don't, I don't know how far back you want to go

or what kind of summer you want to be or include in this, but, you know, the last few years, like everyone really have been sort of difficult, you know, on a lot of people's personal health and mine included. And just sort of working my way through that and finding and continuing to search for opportunities to heal and get better. And, you know, it's tough also because we're entering this sort of second phase of our lives. And so as you're getting older, you're wanting to, you're wanting to sort of, you want your second half of your life to live up to your first half,

and it's hard to figure out what that looks like, because it can't be the same. It just, you have to sort of redefine your priorities and, you know, try to temper what maybe your expectations are. And so that's a secondary struggle to the health part is, I always sort of measured myself on, sort of physical benchmarks and some of that has to um has to subside and I have to find other ways to um to see how I'm doing because uh physically I just you know when you're 48 you just can't

do what you could when you were 38 or 28 um regardless of whether or not you've gone through health challenges so so there's just a lot of things going on um at the moment that I'm just trying to sort out. And, you know, with your help and the support of family and friends, I think we're making progress. I'm sorry about that, about 2048. I don't really remember what that was like because it was so long ago for me. But I know for a fact that even at 38 and 28, because I've known you for a long time, I was never in as good shape as you as you are at 48. So, you know, I am glad to hear that you're feeling better, though, because I know it's been a challenge for you and you know a lot of us that uh to follow you know follow the both of you on

instagram as i do and that's kind of you know you never for me personally even though we've all know each other for so long i never wanted to ask the question like hey what's going on because it felt like it was too personal of a question and it wasn't it you two kind of alluded to it but it was it wasn't until you were really willing to talk about it that kind of you know we all were able to kind of get a glimpse into what you've been battling and some of the alternative things that you've done to get yourself back to feeling better. You know, like I want, I mean, you and I talked about it when we were in Tahoe together, and I was just fascinated with the whole thing with respect to the bees.

And, I mean, I was just blown away by it because I know for a fact, myself, I am terrified of being stung by a bee. I mean, even though I'm a grown up now, I mean, I'm in my 50s, guys. I'm a grown up. You know, my son gets all stressed out and cries about the idea of a beast. stinging him. I do too. And, you know, I know that you actually had to basically, you know, get over not only the, just the, I don't even know what you call the trepidation of being stung by being that momentary, you know, feeling. But you're doing it quite a bit as is an alternative

form of therapy. Can we talk about that a little bit too? Yeah. So I think Bob, you and your son's fear of being stung by it is a healthy fear. And I, I, before I even start with advocating for this bee venom stuff that I do, you don't want to just go out and start stinging yourself with bees. It can be extremely harmful. Some people are very, very allergic, antithalactically bad, and there are certainly reasons for lots of people to be scared of bees. However, there are also lots of reasons for people to see, to sort of be very grateful for bees. You know, obviously there's the obvious delicious honey that they make and that pollination and all that sort of stuff. But And the movies, one of my very favorite movies was the B movie.

I love that movie. Oh, yeah. Actors. Great actors, all of them. Yeah, they are wonderful actors, beasts. But they're actually remarkable. Like, if you ever get down, go down that, want to go down that rabbit hole that, they're, yeah, they're very community-driven. They, you know, it's just, they're fascinating.

They're able to communicate in lots of different ways and all of them. the things that they accomplish as these tiny little creatures are it's it's pretty amazing what they do most of the the work actually being done by women uh women bees female bees so yeah yeah so that's similar to the human race i can see yeah that's good so anyway um they the honeybee in particular not all bees but the honey bee has a venom that contains this uh this particular product called melaton which has been proven to be, have antivira, anti-bacterial, antifungal properties. It's a really powerful, potent thing. And when you use sort of correctly, when you use it in a therapeutic way,

it can help root out things like Lyme disease, which is what I'm using it for, and kill it. And so you can get rid of it, whereas there's a lot of schools of thought that once you sort of have this long-term chronic Lyme disease, you never get rid of it, it just hides out in, you know, far deep places in your body and just sort of wreaks havoc on you forever. But these, this bee venom has, um, has shown some pretty powerful effects against it. And it's a, it's a commitment, obviously. Um, I've been, I've been on this program with, um, with a company called the, the heel hive for almost, I guess I started almost a year ago. Wow. I can't believe it's been that long. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't start stinging with the bees until last spring,

which is why you want to go with something like the heel hive because they'll guide you through a preliminary protocol, which is going to make sure you're not going to have some sort of anaphylactic reaction and make sure they're taking care of all these other potential infections and that you're eating the right diets and that sort of stuff. So you're set up well for success, and that takes several months to get to that point.

And then you do, you know, Trista was there when we did the first initial sting, which was, you just, you know, we keep bees in our house. We don't have a hive someday I would like to, but that's an argument. Trista and I are continuing to, I'm continuing to lose. But so right now I just have, I get bees shipped here or in the summertime I collect them locally. But we did one test sting to make sure I wasn't allergic. We keep a couple of epipins in the house. I have one in my truck. And so every other day now, I sting myself with anywhere from four to seven or eight bees.

And these are live bees that I grab with these little tweezers. And all the stings happen along my sort of spinal path on my lower back. The first few times it's weird because you're just sort of the anticipation of waiting for a bee to sting you is weird, but now, you know, now it's just second nature. I just, it's all pretty fast. He actually, he will do it and then come upstairs and be like, hey, can you scrape the stingers off? Because the method is he holds him to his back. They sting them, hopefully, quickly, because honeybees actually don't want to sting you,

unlike wasps. And so you usually have to hold them. And I used to have to hold him, and now he's doing it on his own. But he'll sting himself and then come upstairs, and you take, like, a little credit card or a harder card and scrape out the stingers. At this point in time, he leaves them in the stingers for 30 seconds. And isn't that, like, kind of the maximum amount of time? Like, after 30 seconds from what the hill hive has described, the venom starts to lose, like, you get the maximum amount. impact after 30 seconds. So in the beginning, he was stinging for like one to three to five

seconds and then that would increase with, you know, the weeks. But now he'll come upstairs and be like, hey, can you get the stingers out? Does it all on his own? It's crazy. That was the question I had was, you know, I remember being stung as a kid and, you know, as, you know, go to your mom and dad or whatever, and they'd grab tweezers and they'd pull the stinger out, you know? And so So that was going to be my question. Like, do you, when you do that with the card, does it remove the stinger completely? Or is there still a little piece of it left in there? Okay.

No, that's the intent is trying to scrape it out and get the stinger out completely. Yeah. That's fascinating. Yeah, there's a little barb on the end. So it's kind of like a fish hook. If you try to pull it straight out, it actually can catch. And that's when that's when you get a little bit left. But if you scrape it out, it usually comes out a little more cleanly.

Wow. That's interesting. Babe, do you want to go grab the little house and just show, Bob? I feel like people are interested to see the little house. So we keep this little bee house in our pantry. It used to be just in our kitchen, and some of the bees were dying, and we think because it was a little chillier. So we keep it in our pantry and try to keep the door closed.

And he usually gets, I don't know, like 50, 60 at a time. And then there are, I don't know that we have any right now. um but there's some coming today but they're i don't have any at the they're not here yet how do they arrive are they like in a in a a container like a i mean i was like a normal box they come in this little box this tiny little box yeah this is an older one but um so 60 bees will cram into this thing and they like to be close together they keep that's how they are in their hives yeah they're they're very tight and then um when they get to my house we put them in this little

oh nice this little thing a little bigger house yeah and then do you ever have a problem with them flying out of there and when you open it to like grab one and they all just like store them out of there so the crazy thing is sometimes like if I'm in

I always do this in usually in my son's bathroom because it's the smallest and poor Max gets the smallest bathroom but we uh so if they do they do get out they're easy to recapture yeah but oftentimes in the summertime I would I would do the stinging ritual, and then I'll take this bee house out to my back porch and just open it right up and let them fly around because bees actually need to go to the restroom.

They don't like to go to the restroom in their house, which none of us would. And so, and they like to be able to fly around from time of time. And the crazy thing is I thought that I would lose all my bees. I didn't really trust that they would come back, but they all come back. they all fly back in and Isn't that crazy? That's amazing. Yeah.

He literally says, I'm going to let them take a walk. So the bees are taking a walk and they all, I mean, for the most part, maybe we lose one or two, but yeah, they always come back to the house. Isn't that crazy? That's fascinating. I mean, yet another awesome quality of bees, right? I mean, just. Yeah.

Yeah. No, that's pretty amazing. We love our bees. We love our bees. They have done so much. I mean, talk about kind of. how since you started B-Benem therapy, how you're feeling? Has it helped?

Do you feel that it has helped? It has absolutely helped. I think as a component of sort of a lifestyle shift, I mean, there are other things that I think have helped as well. But I was definitely plateaued with just trying to find any other source of relief. And I tried a lot of things, like a dust, lots of herbal. things and different sorts of detoxification things. And when we started with the heel hive program and the bees, that's the first time I felt like

I was starting to get actual long-lasting recovery. Like I said, it's still a component of a larger lifestyle change. There's still dietary things that I do. And exercise is huge and detoxification and then some supplements. But the supplement list is like four supplements now. it's just vitamins basically as opposed to what as opposed to like a countertop full of yeah um just all sorts of it was overwhelming and it was all the stress of just trying to figure out when you're supposed to take your vitamins was almost worse than the disease but um but yeah so i

i like to say that i i feel like um you know probably 80% of the time i feel 80% better and then there's a 20% still where I'll have like a yeah I just won't feel as good but um it's that even those days are far better than the worst days used to be so everything is just sort of upticked it's been more benefit more more positive days more feeling better and then even the down days are are less down so and that all happened um as I worked through this bee venom therapy and it continues to sort of tick up there are times when all maybe there was one time where I did my sting I went I was doing eight stings and then one of those bees did come out and it stung me on the chest and then I went for a bike ride I got stung again by just a random

outdoor bee and that was too much and that that triggered a um what it's called is is a herx reaction and it's when the venom actually kills off bacteria in your system and the toxic bacteria are left in your system and there's too much of it for your body to work through efficiently and it just makes you feel sick. So there's still some trial and error to the whole thing. I'm talking actually to Brooke at the heel high this afternoon just to come up with the game plan moving forward

as reaching this one year sort of, moment but um yeah but yeah i think the long story short i attribute a lot of the success that we've been having to the to the bees which is awesome because i love i love nature i love natural types of solutions i love being outside and this just feels like it's um wholesome in that regard so i feel like it's it's authentic to what i would what would like to do as a person anyways so yeah and that that probably helps too just knowing that you're doing something that it's true to yourself. And then honestly, being able to let the bees out and see that they come back

makes me feel better, too, that they're not, I don't feel like I'm holding them prison. They're not trying to escape. Yeah. Because they are. I mean, the sad thing is that when they sting you, they die anytime within a few hours to a few days later because the sting, you know, they have that one sting and if they use it, they die. So that every single bee that stings me is sacrificing her life for me to feel better.

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podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robeye, and this is bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and IHeart Podcasts, where we dive into the stories that shape us, on the page and off. Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars,

and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your team. BBR pile. Listen to bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Books is the official audio book and ebook home for Reese's Book Club. Visit apple.c.O. forward slash Reese Apple Books to find out more. I was actually thinking, too, about your, you know, your profession with being a firefighter and doing the things that you do. And I know that, I mean, historically anyway, and you know, I've never really talked about this,

but I assume this is probably the case for you, that you do, you know, three or four days on. And then, you know, however that works from your employment cycle. And that's got to be, first of all, that would be utterly exhausting anyway. But then on top of that, to be in the situation where you've been over the last few years, man, I could only imagine how much that just takes out of you. So was it something that, you know, kind of, you know, kind of, because I remember a few years ago, you sort of stepped away for a little while, and then you got right back into it, Was that something that was sort of driving the bus on that decision, too?

Or was it something else? You know, was it just, you know, you want to spread your wings and look at some other things? Or, you know, was it sort of the fatigue and things that were taking its toll a little bit? When I left, when I left the Vail Fire Department, yeah, I was going through similar, but not the same type of health issues. And it all may have been related. It turns out that may have been the beginning of what I was dealing with in the, I'm dealing with now. But, yeah, so I left and I got. I got a little bit better, but then I was in a profession that I didn't enjoy

and leaving actually made me realize how much I did enjoy the fire profession. So I went back, but I went back instead of to Vail, I went down to Denver. And so our schedule is, it's good and bad. We work a 24-hour shift, and then we're off for 48. And then I'll work some trades here and there to try to extend that because one thing that has, become apparent is that getting enough sleep is huge in life, especially when you're trying to recover from anything, really, a race or an illness or whatever. So it is a tricky balance, Bob. I try to do the best I can, and Trist is pretty tolerant of me taking naps and that sort of

stuff. The fact that I work two hours away hasn't helped, you know, so I created a situation where I love the department I work with. It's actually, you know, I didn't, not like the department I left. I have a newfound appreciation even for those guys now and the work that we were doing up here. But I needed a change of scenery, so I went down there and I love it. It's just it does get a little exhausting driving back and forth and, you know, wanting to rest and getting up so early in the morning and knowing the impact that a lack of sleep can have. So I try to, I just try to approach days with a little more perspective and not just have my foot on the gas pedal all the time.

Yeah. And that sort of, that sort of helps. These stars are just like us. I love this. This is like realizing, you know, people that are big bachelor fans and they see you too as just this golden couple, which we all see that. But, you know, it's nice to know that, you know, that we actually have to have to have. jobs, which we do. But also that, you know, we face challenges and that you guys in particular, I mean, because you guys have been, I think, the benchmark of the franchise for such a long

time. And, you know, to know that you go through these struggles, you go through them together and you're just like another married couple, you help each other through them, you figure it out, you know. And I've always said that about you guys, you know, it's kind of funny because we were all kind of along for the ride together for the longest time that Trista took us both on. And, you know, it was so fun to be, in a way, you know, I was kind of like your guy's mouthpiece when you weren't there because people would always go, oh, come on. You know, nobody goes on this show.

And I'm like, I'm like, trust me. Yes, they do. And, hello. You know, and I'm like, Tristan Ryan. And, you know, especially once you guys had Max and Blakesley, too, that it was like a totally different conversation. Because it's like, you know, now they have children, guys. And now, you know, now they're at their 20-year anniversary.

It's like, you know, hey, how long you're going to keep on, you know, thinking it doesn't work? This is proof positive. Prove positive that it does. And then we all, you know. But, yeah, I'm glad you're feeling better. our buddy. And I think that, you know, when we got to hang out to look at a little bit together at Tahoe, maybe appreciate what you've been going through because I really didn't know as much

and, you know, you're such a gracious person. You don't really talk about it too often. You don't talk about yourself very often at all. So I think, you know, it was kind of nice to actually hear about it and fascinating to hear about the treatment, you know? So I'm glad you're feeling better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the opportunity. I don't, I don't like to talk much about anything, to be honest. I'm sort of like my son in that regard. But this is one thing that I feel like it's important to talk about because one thing I found out is how many people are going through similar situations

and how lost so many people are and desperate so many people are. And just the fact that there's this crazy, like, I'm doing this B venom therapy. It may not be right for everybody, but I never would have imagined myself using bees as a way to heal and get better. And so I just want to encourage people to have an open mind to advocate for themselves and to continue to have hope in finding a solution that fits who they are and what they need because it's almost certainly out there. It's just oftentimes you don't get the best advice right out of the gate.

And so you have to just kind of keep plugging away. And that's the reason why I like, I don't like. but that I'm willing to talk about it to some degree because I do want people to have some hope and not feel like it's the end of the world if they're coming down with these diagnoses because I think there are solutions out there if you're open-minded. And so thanks for having me on and for giving me the opportunity to see my wife for the first time and like a week. So we do guys.

We bring people together here at the OGs. You know, that's all about this. Co-mingling. But you're not getting out so quick. I am going to take this opportunity to, because we hopefully will have some people listening, hopefully. I want to take this opportunity to say thank you to you, babes, for my surprise party. So Bob, he, I have been wanting a surprise party since I can remember, like since I was little, always, always wanted one. And like a week before my birthday, I was riding in the car with Blake Slee, and she's like,

are you so excited for your birthday? And I'm like, oh, I don't know. I'm like, a really just, I would love to have a surprise party. You know, we were just talking about celebrating. And I think that's, to my knowledge, babe, I think I heard this correctly, that she came home and she's like, okay, we need to have a surprise party. So I think a week before, right? No, no, no, no.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, so never mind. So take that away. Anyway, even if it was like last minute or not, he got so many of my friends and my family. I haven't seen my dad and my stepmom in a year since, well, over a year since last summer, we went to St. Louis to visit them. And then my mom flew in town. And Bob, you know her.

Haley, Cretenden, or Platt, is her, Mary Nitch, even though they aren't together anymore, but yes, she was Chris's, my brother-in-law's date to our wedding, and she

flew in for it. And anyway, it was such an incredible surprise, such an incredible night. Like, I did not want it to end. I could not stop smiling. So I just want to say, say thank you, babe, for on this public platform, if you will, for putting that together

and making me feel special. Well, you're welcome. I had a lot of help, but. Yeah, right. We did it. We did our best. It's not easy. It's not easy to surprise somebody either.

I mean, I'm trying it. That's horrible. I'm terrible at it. So, yeah. Especially in today's day and age. So, Bob, I got a text message from one of the people who was supposed to come to the party, like three hours before, four hours before, and they texted, I haven't talked to them in forever, I'm not going to name them, but they texted me and they're like, hey, so it's been so long

to have so much fun tonight. And I was like, and we can't come, but have so much fun tonight. And I said, oh, it's great to hear from you, but what is, what's tonight? And then we're driving, we had to pick up Blake'sley from dance. We're driving from the dance studio to the location. And I was looking at my phone, and I guess some text messages had to come in. So on Ryan's truck, like he has like the system where you can see your text messages show up on the screen or whatever. Right. Yeah.

And so Blakesley and one of my friends, Jen, who was planning the party and Ryan and maybe somebody else were on this group text and they had texted and Ryan like shoot that away off of the screen and then blakesy texted dismiss yeah it's because Blake so Blake's role was to tell that we were on our way when we picked her up from dance and so I had sent this group text to say like hey blakely here's Jenon Atlanta's phone number um just text them when we leave and so yeah stupid vehicles these days are all like so Bluetooth connected blakesy does exactly what she was supposed to do she sends a text she just replied to my group text which i was on and my truck was like oh text coming in from blakesley i'm like no no no no he literally was like no no no no no no and i was like

what is happening why is blakely texting you from the back seat this is so weird okay so yeah so yeah that's just good like anything can ruin it it's like this whole and we had probably been planning it for a month or so And so for a month, you're just on pins and needles, walking on eggshells. I'm like, catch myself wanting to ask her, like, what should we do where your parents are here? Kind of questions. Oh, man, can you imagine? Yeah. It's just so hard.

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And, you know, it was awesome. And, you know, if you look back. back at the pictures. You can kind of tell something's off with Grace and with my son. But that day, our nanny was supposed to come. Well, originally she was going to come and work. And my wife called her and she goes, hey, you know what, don't even worry about it. We're going to have so much family here. Just take the day unless, you know, we'd still love you to come. And she was kind of like, kind of like a little bit like, you know, no thanks. I'm good. I don't feel well anyway. I haven't felt very good for the last week. And I've been coming every day. And we're like, this is the first we've heard of it. This is literally

the day before the party. It's like Friday and the party's on day. So we're like, oh, why do you tell us you weren't feeling? Oh, no, it's a big deal. So next day, we have everyone over, parties going great. As everyone's starting to leave, I am the type of guy who I cannot go to bed into my house is spotless. Every night. I do the dishes every night. I clean, I vacuum, I sweep. I do all these things. Well, that night, you know, everyone's gone. And I'm doing the dishes. And all of a sudden, I'm just like, you know what? I can't, I can't do this tonight. And I leave everything in the sink and I go upstairs and I lay down face first on my bet. Much like Ryan probably remembers from our days in the mansion together when we were when we were hitting out with Trista.

So I'm like face first. And my wife thinks, oh my God, he must have had too much to drink, which I had not had a thing to drink all day. And so she takes a picture of me and thinks it's funny and sends it out as a text message to a group of our friends like, look who's over served at Grayson's birthday party, you know, or whatever. needless to say I had what I thought later was COVID like I went and got the testing for it to see if maybe

it had been a strain of COVID getting that kind of early but it wasn't it was just a really bad flu but how we knew how this how this transpired was everyone from our party got it and they would literally call me and be like well hey thanks for the gift that keeps on giving when Grace the second birthday is coming around

do us a favor don't call us Seriously? Everybody to the number got sick. And it was bad news. Oh, no. I know how that feels. Yeah. It is not fun.

I don't like being sick. And it's not easy when your kids have to be everywhere at different places at different times. And thankfully, they're at school, you know, most of the day. Max had a late start today. But we had to wake up at five to take him to talk. hockey practice that starts at 6.15 in the morning. Man. Anyway, yeah, it's not easy, but yeah, it was so worth it.

I would do it a million times over if I had to be sick and fed again because it was just so much fun to see all these people who I know and love and be able to hug on them and just feel the love. Well, and it hopefully makes you feel really special too, knowing that Ryan and and Blakesley and your friends put in such an effort to plan. But then also the people got out of a plane, people got in a car, and people made an effort to be there. It's just shows you how loved you are.

You know, you put out positivity and you can get it back. So I think it's wonderful. Happy birthday. Yeah, that was great. We actually had to change the location three hours before the party because too many people came. And so we had one restaurant booked and we showed up and like, that's fire code violation.

We can't have these people. I'm so sorry. We're like, what? We're like, what? Did you tin them? Did you get out your badge? You'd be like, trust me, we're going to be fine. Yeah. Don't worry about a part of fashion. I got you. And you could tell, like, I have a video that my mom took. So my parents were kind of hidden in this back room, if you will, or back section of the restaurant. And she took a video of kind of people waiting for me to get there. And there's this woman having dinner with probably her husband or whatever.

right next and you could tell like she was just like uh why are these people here she was so frustrated because it was there were a lot of people and it was they were we were all well they were all pretty loud before i got there and then of course um you know surprise and everything yeah the people who came there for dinner that night were not super happy that there was a surprise party uh that they were not in on yeah they were just unhappy they weren't invited that's the only problem Yeah, right. No, anyway, it was great. Thank you, babe.

Thank you, thank you. You're welcome. So, guys, I want to talk about something. I don't know if you two know this story, but I think that, you know, I think that I might kind of be responsible for this union of Tristan and Ryan. I don't know that I've ever shared this story.

I know I've told you, Tristan, but I don't think Ryan's ever heard this story before. Ryan, so I'll never forget. You and I meet the first night at the mansion, and I am, we just, you know, we were in the same areas a lot, and we were always laughing with each other and stuff. And I used to love telling the story of how, you know, people would be like, oh, my God, Bob played college football.

And I'd be like, I was a backup, A, and B, talk to Ryan. He played professional football. And it would drive me crazy because Ryan would never, you know, I love that you wouldn't talk about it because it's just who you are. You're just so humble and I love it. But I'd always be like, and I would say that to people. They'd be like, oh, yeah, he was a fireman and a poet. And I'm like, you guys have no idea who this guy is.

I'm like, do you realize, you know, everyone sits there and talks about, oh, yeah, you know, I did this in high school and college. I'm like, the dude played for the Ravens, okay? So I would always get myself so fired up about that. And I'm like, and he doesn't talk about it. This is the guy. Trust me. This is your guy. And I'm like, I'm out there leading the Century Club and he's writing poetry.

The guy's amazing. But I used to always always talk about that stuff. But one of the things I don't know if I've ever told you the story, so we were on a group date. I don't know, I don't think Ryan was on this date with us, but there were five of us. Remember when we went on the, you and I talked about the great dates they planned for you that year, the wonderful, the wonderful go-kart date, which really made sense with what was going on in your family. Yeah, and then, of course, the beach date with the shellfish. Good call, right? So we're on a beach date and I'll, you know, we go there.

Oh, yeah, he wasn't there. Yeah. you were there and I'll never forget I'm standing there you know and just sort of like oh no really what's next you know I'm just kind of hanging out and Tristan I had already kind of struck up this this really great friend vibe and I can tell that you know it was like we really liked each other

and it was like but we weren't necessarily clicking romantically right and so but that was okay because neither one of us care it was like we were just having a great time when we'd be in the same room together and I was just like hey man I love this chick she's awesome so we're out on the beach and I'll never I think it was Carbone I'm not entirely sure, but I want to say that it was. He's like, hey, Giney, come here. I want to talk to you.

I'm like, yeah, hey, what's up, man? He's like, what are you doing? And I go, oh, I'm just going to grab a beer there out of the cooler. And he's like, listen, man, you really got to get on this. Trista, Trista really wants to kiss you. And I go, what? He goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She said, she's like, I really want to kiss this guy.

And I go, hold on a second, hold on a second. I go, you're, so you're telling me. that Trista came up to you, the producers, and was like, oh, man, I'll tell you what. If this date could be any more special for me, I'd make out with that guy in front of four other dudes. That's what I want to do. And he's like, yeah, yeah, that's what she said. I go, that's what she said to you. He goes, yeah, I go, mm-hmm.

I go, here's what's not going to happen. I'm not going to try to kiss her on a beach in front of four other dudes. It's not happening. So good try. Thank you. But it's not happened to day. So I walk away. And as I'm walking away, I start to think about it.

And I'm like, I hope that Trista doesn't think I don't want. want to kiss her. Because I mean, you know, I mean, I, she's lovely. Of course, I like, you know, I've, you know, I've, you know, I've liked it. You know, but the whole time, so I'm like, you know, I don't know. I'm not going to necessarily try to kiss her, but I could, I should have at least taken opportunity to talk to her. So I come back and I'm coming back for Jamie Blythe. I'm going to give Jamie a beer. And, you know, Jamie's the most lovable mannequin on the planet, right? The guy is just you wind him up and he's the circus club. Where's he going to know. And so I'm just walking back with a couple beers. I'm like, hey, Carbone's like, oh, ho, ho, ho, where are you going? I'm going, I'm going to go give a beer to Jamie, and he's like, nope, nope, he's in the middle of something right now. I go, oh, I kind of glance around everybody, and I see Jamie on the beach going in to try and kiss Trista, and she's like, whoa! No, thank you, no thanks.

And I'm like, yes. So I was so glad that I didn't take the bait, but of course, you know, my dumb buddy does. So we get in the limo after this whole shellfish thing and, you know, it's just funny. and we're in the limo and I go hey Trista you know I um I just want to say you know if my sister were on this show because I was I was feeling like she I don't know I felt like I was supposed to protect you on these days I don't know why that was in my head but I'm like you know if my sister around this show and and you know five dudes and on a beach I'm like it's one of them

trying to like make out with her I would I'm just going to say it right now I hope you don't think that that means we're not interested in getting to know you better because we are we're just being respectful and I and Jamie's sitting like down at the end of the limo and I'm down here at the other end and Jamie's going and I'm like but if someone did try to kiss you that wouldn't mean that they're a pig it would just mean that they're uh you know

they're doing something different than me I guess I don't know I don't know exactly that's that after they did not never forget Jamie's like you threw me under the bus man I'm like you're the dummy that listened to Carbone I didn't tell you to do that so yeah it's a long way to get to it

but I feel like you know I guess I should just say you guys are welcome I you know I'm Yeah, thank you. Thanks, Bob. Thank you. I've always given you a ton of credit, actually, especially in the early, sort of the early group dates where all of the pressure was off of me to be sort of something I wasn't because I'm not super extroverted. But if you were there, then it was always a good time because that was you and you took that, you did that, you handled that very well and you made it fun for everybody involved. It wasn't like you were just focused on Trista. Everybody sort of got to be a part of a really good time when there was a group date with you, Bob. And so I think I've told Trista this many times that you sort of got me through those initial stages until it could be more one-on-one.

And I could get to know Trista just as a person and she could get to know me as a person. But yeah, I didn't know the extent of how about you. I took the next level on the beach. Yeah, I've always thought. And I think we were super fortunate. When people ask me about the show, I always tell them, like, listen, I liked every single guy that was on that show. We're not, I don't keep in touch with them now, but I don't keep in touch with a lot of people

in my life now. For that period in my life, I felt fortunate to have known all of you guys. And it wasn't the kind of show that was super dramatic. And there was not a lot in fighting between us. Like, I told people initially, half the time guys were like, oh, crap, I got a date with Trista, like, keep my beer like cold. I'll be right. Like, it wasn't like, it was like more fun to be at the house sometimes than it was to be outside of the house. So we did have so much fun together.

We had a good time. We were, we were fortunate to have that experience. And I feel like I, it was especially, especially fortunate to have it in the way that it did for me. But the path along the way was certainly enjoyable. and that was in large part because of you. So thank you for that. Thank you, buddy. That means a lot to me.

I always say that. I was always like, I felt like Ryan and I were like the perfect man together. Like he was, you know, just a stud, super sweet and kind. And I'm nice enough, but, you know, he's like, he's thoughtful. He's sensitive and he's caring, but he's also really funny. And when you get to know him, such a great time, you know, like, and then I'm the one that just sort of breaks the ice everywhere I go.

And then, you know, you know, but it was. was one of those things where I felt like, I agree with you. I mean, I've often said it that I think, and Trista, I think, you know, it does start at the top. And I think that from that perspective, it really did start with you. We weren't, there wasn't a bunch of drama with us. We were genuinely friends. Like, I remember when I came off the show and I remember, I didn't know who won and who was the choice, I should say. It's not technically a winner, I suppose. I know how that works, but I said the wrong word there. But I mean, I was saying that I'm not forgetting saying if she doesn't choose Brian, I will lose my mind.

And everyone would be like, what do you mean? I'm like, I go, I was choosing Ryan. I was like, okay, how do I keep Brian in my life? What do I got to do here? I got, do I have any roses? Like, how the hell do I do this? You know, because it was like we'd be in our little bunk beds, which were, you know, like the single twin beds in this big room.

And it was like, you know, we just all bonded. And it was never, I mean, agreed. Like, it was never one of those things where I'd run into someone years later and be like, oh, there's that guy. It was like, hey. You know, I'm so excited to see you. We didn't have any of that stuff. Totally.

You know, it was so good. But I do think that starts with you, Trista, because you had to set the pace for that. And because of your experience, you know, you made it so that it was drama-free for us because you knew how that went, right? I mean, it was a little bit of manufactured stuff. Yeah. I don't know if I had much to deal with it. I think you guys were just awesome. It was just such a good group of guys.

And at that point in time, because it was so. new, you know, so OG, people weren't as into, and maybe the producers weren't as into kind of inciting the drama and like, you know, getting people to, to focus on infighting when it was just so much, I kind of wish for that again. I wish there was just this great group of guys or girls that just have such a great time together and and although I do kind of like the drama watching but at the same time I I loved my guys I loved you yeah yeah you had you did have some great ones I mean there was I did I mean you know to a number I mean I I keep in touch with I still keep in touch like Janie Blythe

and Jack French you know and of course the two of you which is nice and you know and that's I feel like you know when I look at the season I mean I always kind of come back to that and And I told the story recently on the air ride, I'm not sure if you got to hear about it, but I ran into the guy, the first guy I met in the mansion, after greeting Trista, I walk inside, and there's a guy standing there, and he was just this great-looking guy, and he was just standing there, and he was just very, like, perfect posture, and he's like, you know, how are you? I'm like, good, you know, and talking to him, and he's like, you know, I won't go back down the rabbit hole in the whole story, but I remember going, you know, so what do you do?

And he's like, I'm like, ah, I too studied the martial arts. So he's like, you do. I said, yes. He's like, what discipline? And I said, Tybo. And Jamie Blithe, of course, is with me. And he's like, ha ha ha. Like, he made me feel like the funniest guy alive. I'm like, yeah, Zigger. And the guy's like, that's not a martial art brother. And I'm like, oh, you should tell Billy Blankstaff. You know, because that guy's making a fortune. And I ran into him at the Kentucky Derby, like, two years ago. And I'm like, how do I know this guy? And he's like, I was with you and Trist's season. I'm like, oh my God. And he reminded me in that story. So yeah, even to this day,

you know, we can feel good running into each other because it's always going to be pretty pleasant. That's right. Well, babe, thank you so much for coming and walking down memory lane with me and Bob and chatting about how you're feeling. We've been talking about having you on for a really long time. So thanks. Yeah, we've got to have the original OGs on. You know what I mean? this is this is the real deal this makes me so happy and Ryan I mean I love and respect you man and I just am so happy that you would come on and share you know share a lot of what you've been going through too I think I think it is going to help a lot of people because whether it's you know whether it is Lyme disease or whether it's something else that they're dealing with like you

said to have an open mind and be willing to try some different things and not just go down the conventional path of overmedicating yourself not that I'm sure some people can do that too but I think it's a pretty a wise bit of information to dispense today. So thanks for doing that for us. Yeah, no, this was fun. It was fun. It's kind of fun to think back on those days so long ago with the, especially Jamie. I just remember like dog food stuff.

Oh, my pony shots. Anxiety attacks and all sorts of stuff. And it's just kind of fun to read. I don't know if it's the same with you, but it feels like a totally different time. I feel like a lifetime ago. So to think about it is kind of fun. And so thanks for having me on and allowing me to partake in some of that and to share my story. And you know where to find me if you, if you ever want to talk again.

I sure do. Sounds good. By the way, I'm downstairs. Okay, great. Enjoy your trial separation there in the downstairs level. All right, sounds good. See you, buddy. All right, bye, babe.

Bye, bye, bye. I love that guy. Love you. I know. Just so you hit gold on the show. You know that? you genuinely did i sure did i am a lucky girl that you really are i i have said also you know that if ryan wasn't there i don't know that anyone else would have worked just because i i just

feel like he was meant to be my person so i do too i honestly thought that i i thought that while i was still on the show which is kind of crazy it is crazy i remember being somewhere thinking to myself like I don't feel like I'm ready for this you know and we weren't we weren't like we didn't even never have an individual take you know what I mean we were always on great case together but I remember thinking to myself like if I'm being honest because I you know I cared about you and I like you so much so quickly and I was like if I'm being honest about this who's the right person for her here you know and and I remember thinking to myself I'm like it's got to be Ryan it's got to be like there's you know and back then as you recall the show was always edited to make

the second or third individual that was left in the mix that person looked like hands down they had to be the person and this is no knock on Charlie because I love Charlie too but it was like you know there was

it was always going to be that was the person that the crowd thought oh this is it and then the person who would come in in the end and be the one that got the proposal or was the one that actually proposed

and the proposal was accepted they were the ones that you know I feel a lot of footage was probably left to the cutting room floor of them because they really were kind of stacking the deck so that people would surprised and um and i mean that's that's not a secret that was something that i think you know was

pretty other than after like the first five or six seasons and that's when they started switching up the formats of the show and stuff but yeah i just remember that day like i remember thinking to myself like it's time it's time for me to get out of the way here because i i don't want to be a distraction and and um and you know and you obviously were thinking the same thing as me because that's when you let me go but it was like one of those things was kind of like i i remember thinking how much I wanted you to meet my family and everything, but also how I was like, I'm not ready. If we were to go to the next level, would I be able to pull the trigger and do the right thing? And I'm not ready. But if I look at this room of guys, who is ready? Who is, and who's

ready for this person specifically? That was Ryan. That was Ryan all day long. I can say honestly, you know, remembering back then, he wouldn't have been the way that he was with you, with just anybody. You know, that wasn't, that wasn't Ryan Sutter's style. You know what I mean? He was that way with you because you were you and that was what he wanted and it was i mean it was genuine from the jump and i remember thinking myself like god that's that's the one you know so it's always nice to to be associated with with that era of this show and yeah you were there we were there the golden years as we say yeah uh yeah i can say it too we are i guess in our golden era as 50 year olds or 50 plus year old, whatever we are.

Ryan's just a baby, though. He's just a baby. He's just a baby. He's just a babe. He's just a little babe. But I love you. I hope you feel better. I know you're not feeling great today, but I hope you are still reveling in the good feelings from your birthday bash. Yes, it was so fun. Thank you. You're so welcome. Thank you for the chat. I'm glad we got to chat again today. And as always, tune in to the next Almost Famous O.G. Hi, my name is Anya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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