The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: OG vs IG

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

The OGs are taking you into their top secret list of Bachelor Nation contacts to surprise some of our favorite members of the franchise! When you hang out with Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter, you never know WHO might show up from Bachelor history! Anything and everything is on the table!   Plus, Bob reveals how an emotional moment with Colton Underwood influenced the name of his son!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the almost famous podcast with IHeartRadio. Hello, Mr. Guinea. Hi, Trista Sutter. How are you? I'm great today. And I'm really glad that my makeup actually worked because I just got a microneedling. Men don't really do that, although you probably could.

But you don't need to because, you know, the aging process doesn't matter to men. Yeah, I'm not familiar with the microneedling But I you know I've seen a couple guys on Instagram Get microbladed once or twice when they lost their eyebrows That was pretty interesting I wondered you look like the glam squad just rolled in I mean you had the whole glam squad at the house this morning

Getting you all prepped and ready for the big podcast I love it Trisza Their new name is Trisket So you know I don't know if you knew this So my wife, my wife Canyon, who her name is Jessica, but I call her Canyon. So Canyon, one of the names, when we were having our second child that she was kicking around,

well, for the first child, one of the names she was kicking around was Colton. And I was like, I'm like, I can't do that. She's like, what do you mean? I go, well, this is before Colton was made The Bachelor, but I'm like, this guy's on Bachelor in Paradise, man. And he's, you know, he's got to, so the only way I could get, and I really like the name Grayson. So the only way I could get her not to necessarily go with Colton was I had a pre-tape to watch for people, a magazine TV show thingy, and they wanted me to watch this episode of Bachelor in Paradise. And Colton happened to be crying in this episode, and his little nameplate came up underneath it, you know? So I, and she would never watch the show with me.

So I get the show like totally positioned properly. And I go, hey, come out, you know, just kind of watch this with me, you know? she's like, okay. So she comes in and I hit play. And she goes, oh, who's this guy? He's really cute. And then he starts crying. And she's like, why is he crying? And I go, I don't know. And then a name thing comes up and says, Colton. And she's like, I see what you're doing. I see you, Bob. So she's like, so you don't want me to name him Colton because a guy's crying. So then along comes the second child. And she's like, I want to name him Tristan. And I'm like, you know, don't you think? I'm like, first of all, it's very close to Tristan.

who I adore, whom I adore, I'm like, but don't you think it's a little weird that every time I turn around, you want to name our kids after some Bachelor star? Well, you know what? For God's sake. There are a lot of people in The Bachelor now, so it's really hard to come up with the name that isn't related to anybody on The Bachelor these days. The valid point. Well, she, yeah, so we ended up choosing Blake, who I know was a guy that somebody chose not

too long ago. Blake and then Blake's weird, my daughter, you know, we're all connected in some weird crazy way. That's right. Intertwined. It's one big intertwined. Okay, so today we have something really, really fun that I'm really excited about. We are, what are we? We're calling it OG versus IG, but we're going to be calling some random people from our, our phones, from our cell phones right here. I've got mine right here. And I know you have yours too. And so how do you want to do it? Do you want to just, um, like, scroll down and I can tell you who pops up on mine and you can tell me who pops up on yours and then, or you want to just surprise me or how do you want to do it? I got to be honest. I have no idea. I, uh, you know, part of me is, is worried about this game.

No one's going to answer. For fear that I'm going to randomly dial someone up. And if they do answer, I want to be like, hey, you're live on the Bob and Trista show. I mean, what do I, you know, you're live on almost famous OG show and they're going to have time for you uh you know I'm on the hopper or something so yeah we could run into some problems with this game but it could be fun the hopper erstwhile known as the uh the throne uh the place where people go potty and such wait a second you just said erstwhile and you are proving to everyone who is listening that we are indeed dinosaurs. Yes.

Yes, I know. I know right now, you know, the folks that help us with the podcast are literally going, what does that even mean first of while? Sounds like something my grandpa would say. Let's Google. Yes, because they're all young and incredibly beautiful and talented.

We're not. Well, you are those things as well. I'm just simply, you know what I am? I am just a comedic fire for the show. But I will say this. Stop it. Yeah. I will say this.

When we came up with the idea with OG versus IG or IG versus OG, one of the things that really drove me to this idea or was a motivator for me on the part of the idea where it's the OG versus IG, not the game part that we're talking about, was I was thinking about when you forced me, when Trista forced me to watch the first episode of my season, and I was hating it with a passion, watching myself. But women were lovely. Right. You forced me. You're like, Bob, you must watch this. I'm like, okay, Trista, you know, and so I did. But I will say that in watching it, I was like, God, what happened to me? Like, what about, my life was so cool back then. And then I started thinking about the fun stuff that I had done at that time up until that point in my life. And one of them, you know, I was a musician at the time. And even though, you know, I guess you're never not a musician once you're a musician. But let's be honest. I'm not touring anymore on doing that kind of thing. But at that time I was, And we did a tour, you know, where we had opened for, you know, hooting the blowfish and Matchbox 20 and all these big bands.

And then I was like, literally, as I was thinking about that, I was starting the Moana CD in my car for my son, you know. And he and I know every word. It's like, you know, what can I say except you welcome? You love that song. Or whatever the words are. I don't really know. I do actually know. I do know.

I do know the words. I don't lie. And I thought, oh my gosh. It's really kind of amazing how my life has changed over the years. I now spend my time, you know. I mean, Sing 2. Have you seen it? Because I have, and it's awesome.

I haven't. I've seen Sing 1, and I have to see Sing 2. I haven't yet. Thing 2 makes me cry every time I watch it. Oh, I need to watch it. Oh, I love movies that make me cry. Sorry. And back then, I'm like a touring guy and a musician and, you know, all these things.

Now I'm like, a panda bear singing a U2 song, and I'm bawling my eyes up, a porcupine playing guitar, played by Scarlett Johansson, P.S., you know, I'm just sobbing like a baby. My son's like, he's three, he's over it. He wants to watch, you know, he wants to watch, you know, stinky and dirty, you know, or something. And I'm sitting here crying or singing too. So how does that refer back to OG versus IG? You started the story. I want to bring us back.

Well, because, yes, O-G, I was watching the show and realizing where my life was at that time. IG, now all I post about are my kids. And, you know, a lot of those things take place with the kids with me while I'm watching Moana. So there you go. So, hey. That's just, you know, just one example of full circle. But thank you for reeling me in because I kind of got lost. I'm happy to do that every single week.

Okay, I'm looking through my contacts. And I'm here for you. Okay, hold up the screen. Okay, so. So how are you finding them? Do you have them in your phone with like under like a bachelor type of thing? Exactly. But that doesn't mean.

Let me see what happens when I do that. There are not more people because I know there are people on here who have not showed up that I definitely have numbers for. So I've got a lot. Okay, good. I'm really surprised. All right. tell me, okay, go down and pick the fifth on the list. Okay, one, one, two, three, four, five.

Oh, okay. Oh, I guess I can't do that. Aaron Burgy. No, but we already talked to. Aaron Bergie. Well, I guess we haven't talked to him on this podcast, though, and it's Bergey. It's Bergey. No.

It's Bergey, like Fergie. Aaron, I did. Aaron, like Fergie, Bergie. Yeah, like Fergie Burgy. Okay, why don't you call Aaron Berge and see if he will answer? I feel like no one's going to answer because who literally, literally, who answers the phone these days? Like either you text them, no one answers the phone. Aaron's old school like us, though.

So Aaron will answer his phone. True story. Okay, okay. So what do you say? You just say, hey, do you have a couple minutes to talk to me and Trista on our new podcast? And then, like, shine your. All right, let's see what happens. Here we go.

I'm calling him as we speak. It's ringing. The nerves. Can you guys hear this? And then what if he answers your call and no one answers mine? Then I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Aaron's not going to answer my call for God's sick.

Is he in a meeting? What is going on here? He is an important guy. He's a banker. All right. Do I leave a message? I think I'll leave a message. You don't have to, but you can.

Hi, this is Aaron Berge with Legacy Bank and Trust. Hey, very detailed message, and I'll get back with you as soon as I can. He is. Such a nice guy. At the tone, please record your message. Aaron Bergey like Fergie. We just recording you may hang up or press one for more options. Aaron, it's Bob and Trista.

We're calling you from almost famous OG podcast. We're doing like a game here and I just lost. I lost the first round. I thought you would for sure answer. So, all right. I love you, buddy. and I'll holler at you soon. Derby's around the corner. Are you coming this year? Call me back. Bye. Okay. So I'm O for one. Trista. Your turn. Now you're going to get all the answers. Are you kidding me?

You know, you're the godmother of this thing. I am literally a peon. No one answers the phone these days. So I'm a little nervous. And, and I don't have like people in here under, I should, we should have done this beforehand. And note for next time, if we do it beforehand, let's go through the people and make sure they are easy to find because mine are not. Okay, so let me see. You got to go to number five on your phone like I did. I went to number five. But the thing is, I have Bachelor producers. Like, most of mine are Bachelor producers or worked on The Bachelorette special with do-da-da, you know?

like, Carrie Fetman's on here. Should I call Carrie? Carrie Fetman, he'll answer his phone. Okay, here we go. I haven't talked to him in a long time. The anticipation. My baby is I live and breathe. My baby is I live and breathe.

Carrie Fetman. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy you answered my call. How are you? I'm great, but you can't say anything that will get me in trouble or Bob Guinea because we're actually calling you from our new podcast and we were like, okay, we're playing this game where we're going to randomly call people from the Bachelor in our phones and see if they answer number one, which we were like, no one's going to answer the phone, but you answered. I'm so excited. I just realized Carrie's not going to be able to hear me.

I mean, I love you. How are you? I'm so good. How are you doing? You know, life is good, but today I'm talking to Bob. You remember Bob Guinea, right? I mean, you were the stylist on his show, right? My baby bum. That's why I looked so damn good. That's why he looks so good, he said. The kissing monster. The kissing monster.

Yes. That's what they called me, the kissing bandit back then. Now, so Carrie can't hear me, Tristice. You have to tell him, I miss him, I love him, and thanks for making me look so good. So he can't hear you, but you can't hear him. I wonder if there's a way for, if I pull out my headphones. can I can I do that guys the production team you could put one headphone why don't you put one headphone to him here through a headphone on a phone Bob no problem just tell me

I don't know Carrie Fedman Carrie can you hear me so anyway okay so we basically I just wanted to say hi like okay but but they can hear you and Bob can hear you so why don't can I ask you do you have two minutes to chat with me I do you're the best I love you okay so who is your favorite? Bob and Tristan. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm writing his answers. This must be his answer.

No, I'm just kidding. I love you. You cannot have favorites. I totally feel the maternal thing just like you do, where people ask me that all the time. And I'm like, really, it's like choosing a child. You can't do that. No, you can't do that. No.

You know, I wasn't as crazy about, but certainly not having a favor. I mean, right? Okay. I've told this many years. Look, and I still how excited I was when I saw you were calling. I know. I love that. I mean, it's been a long time, and you weren't even the stylist on my show.

We just connected afterward. That's right. Is that where we met at Jade and Tanner's wedding? No, I met for doing your wedding, girl. That's when I came on. Oh, you're going to help you with your wedding. I don't even. Remember this. Do we have any pictures together?

Yeah, because he was on he was on as my season stylist. Not the engage right, but I did the pre-party. We picked out dresses for that. Yeah. Oh my gosh, Carrie. Where was my phone? I did not have a phone at that time. Actually, dude, they didn't even have cameras on phones probably back then. Right.

You had a flip phone back then. Yeah, we had flip phones. I just remember going to your apartment. Oh, my gosh. Yes, Barrington. I know. Brentwood was the best department. I'm remembering that is the amazing thing. That is... I don't remember my name from yesterday.

Same, same. All right, I'll let you go. I'm just so thankful you answered the phone. I'm so glad that you guys are good. I love you. Just send my love to Bobby. I will talk to you guys shortly. Okay, sounds good.

Thanks, Fatman. Take care. I mean, how cute is he? My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

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So when I type in the word Bachelor, on my phone, it pulls up a ton of people. And you're right, a lot of producer people, also, you know, some other folks as well that are in and around the show. But this is a good one, okay? This is a pretty good one. This is a deep dive.

I guess it's not that deep of a dive. But when I type in Bachelor, it's the very first name that pops up. You want to know who it is, or should I surprise you? I do want to know who it is. Ari. Oh. Oh, Ari. Oh, good. Hopefully you'll answer. That would be awesome. Because of the A. He might be in Hawaii or with his twins or I don't know, but hey, let's do it. Now, number five was Aaron Bergey.

Yep. So I think I got a lot in between that Ari and Aaron Bergey. But here we go. Let's give it a shot. Okay. You ready? Let's see if he answers. I know he's a busy guy. He's a realtor to the stars. He's busy. Dad of three with three kids. He's got the twins. These kids are gorgeous. They are so cute. All right. Come on, Ari. I need to get one win here. Just one.

Everyone's the answer to Trista. They're ignoring me. Let's make a note. I'm really competitive. We should just make it be Trista calling people. And I'll just sit here. No, I'm just kidding. Nobody wants to talk to old Bob.

Hello, you've reached. Oh, hello, you've reached. He has a very good voicemail. Very good voice. We're leaving another message here, everybody. The mailbox is full. Oh. And it's full.

Totally tombstone. He put me to a fake email. Shocking. Shocking because no one answers calls these days. I swear. I cannot believe Fetman answered my calls. Just a turn. We actually want to talk to someone.

This is like, this is terrible radio from the standpoint of me providing content. I'm not doing anything. Okay. Okay. Let's go. We're just going to keep going. Going. Okay. I feel like I can get one. I bet that Molly would answer. Okay, let's call her. And Molly's a good one, too, because she does some radio stuff. She's doing real estate. Oh, so much going on.

I talked about her doing a podcast with me back in the day. But she's really busy, too. She's in real estate now with Jason. Yep. Yep. Call has been pulled it into an... I'm not even going to leave her a message. You're not even leaving a message? Come on, T-Bone. No. These people need to know that they've let you down.

That's what they need to. They've let us down. Yes. So right now, if we're counting this as a scoreboard, Trista's up one to nothing. So we're back to Kid Dynamite, dialing up one more time. I don't know if you know this, but...

Goose egg, Bob Guinea. That's what they call me in the Bachelor family, The Kid Dynamite. really know why um so we're going to go back oh yeah yeah oh yeah it's a very common thing okay so i'm going to go to the last name actually this isn't the last name because the last name the last name is a name uh a collective name from year in my past trista that i i wouldn't even feel comfortable calling right now um really yeah chris no a stella no god no she wouldn't be last and I'd call her totally.

But it's not like a, you're saying last like it's a last priority, but it's definitely not. Last alphabetically. See, but mine aren't even alphabetical. Oh, yeah, mine are all alphabetical. The last name in my phone that pops up alphabetically starts with a wuh, with a W, ends with a Uds, just saying. Oh, Nicole Woods.

No, not Nicole Woods. Russell Woods. Russell Woods. Yes. So I didn't want to do that to you. So instead, I'm going to go up five from the bottom. You ready? One, two, three, four, five.

I'm not even telling you who this is. We're just calling it. Well, and mind you, yes, mine are all in alphabetical order. This one will turn into a FaceTime if this individual answers. Okay. And he's going to answer because he's my boy. All right, come on, buddy. Come on now.

although, you know what, he works hard for his month. He might be farming, ladies and gentlemen, Prince Farming, Chris Souls. Prince Farming. He's probably out there grinding some corn, doing some hard labor. Well, I'm sitting here trying to blow up his phone podcast. Welcome to the U.S. cellular voicemail. Oh, for God's sake. See, we're not even leaving messages now.

I'm O for three. You're one for three. That's great. I'm O for three. Oh, you know, you're one for two. You're 50%. So you get one more shot. I'm 50%.

That's great odds. I mean... You don't need to do another round to win this thing, but I feel like if you really want to put it over the top, that, you know... Let's go big on this. Let's not mess around.

Let's go big. I'm going Bergey. Right here. Yeah. Aaron Bergey, like Fergie. Fergie like Fergie. Yeah, we're giving him a call. What's going on?

Berge you just saved me in this game thank you yeah whatever you guys are playing but i'm happy to help yeah no buddy so you're live on the air your voices with trista and i on the ogs uh the almost famous OG podcast and we went through our phones and we were playing like this bachelor nation uh round robin try to call people that you know and see if they pick up no one answered for me buddy Except for you, write me back saying, Bob, I'm in the middle of, you know, basically solving the world's financial crisis. But I'll take a step out of my meeting and take your call. Trista, Trista, just everyone's to grab a Trista's call. That is not true.

Not at all. How are you, buddy? Hi, I'm doing good. Hi. Well, buddy, we want to say hi and check in with you. How are things there in Missouri? Be better for this summer. Bring those boys down.

I know. So I watched this show called The Ozark, right? You know, Ozarks are not. Oh, me too. Every time I watch it, I end up calling Aaron. I'm like, buddy, is this real? Does this really exist? Can we come here?

And there's this beautiful golf course there. And we go there. Yeah, the Tim Tebow was playing out. I'm like, I said the picture, Aaron, is this? Where is this? And he's like, that's like a half an hour from me. I keep my boat down there. Let's go.

Oh, perfect. So that's our plan. We got to get everybody together, buddy, because I know our wives are big friends. and... Oh, that's great. Aaron and I are great buddies, too. So we'll have to definitely come visit you. They came out to Seattle.

Aaron and his wife came out to Seattle when Jessica and I were living there in Seattle and stayed with us for a long weekend. And we went to see a game when his chiefs were in town. So it was good. Yeah, it was a great time to get together again. I see you guys going to be at the Derby, of course. It's like Christmas for you. You know it, buddy.

I don't miss it. Are you coming this year? I don't know. If there's a possibility, but I don't know. We just had our first Grand Day. So we're kind of, we're kind of, we're in it right now. A grand baby. I've got a nine-month-old.

This is bananas. 28, heard her husband had a baby last week. Oh, my God. That's so great. Congratulations, grandpas. Congratulations, granddaddy. Granddad. You are a grand dude.

That's it. I got to keep the paw out of it. I can't get there in my mind yet. I'm not old enough for all that. I don't feel it. No, you're not old. You're not. You're not.

But to be a grand dude, I think you got it dialed. There it is. I appreciate you going with him. Thanks, sir. So the last time we talked to you, we were doing that interview. It was the three of us. I can't remember who it was for, E.T. or extra, one of those, maybe. And Bob and I were like, we need to do something together.

So hence the podcast. This is where we landed with IHeart Media and Almost Famous. I think we need you to be a free-futor, pal, because the three of us were magic on that thing. that was fun I really enjoyed it so I'd love to contribute any time just give me a little heads up

all right buddy well thanks for you taking my call you're a lifesaver I didn't end up losing to Trista after all so thanks brother I appreciate it

we're tied yeah I'm right good dear for me all see you buddy Aaron Bergie come on oh yay

yay yay I'm so glad we tied I'm so glad we tied and had content instead of just calling people and be like want want

I know you can only hear me leave so many like totally terrible voicemails, you know, before people tune out. So, but that was fun. Okay, so we're going to take a quick break. And then after this, we're going to go OG versus IG, which I gave you a kind of a little feeler, you know, that it's going to be like where we were. It's sort of like, you know, when people say like IG, you know, Instagram versus reality, this is going to be, you know, our old life versus our life, I think, kind of, right?

Yeah. No, I agree. So, like, I have so many. I mean, and it's embarrassing. I'm sure you do. So I'll leave people with this little teaser. Someone once said to me, and this is not too long ago, once said to me, wait, so this is what you do for a living? And I said, yeah, I love it.

And they said, how the mighty have fallen. I said that to me. Isn't that amazing? And I thought it was actually really funny slash insulting. Yeah. Insulting, for sure. We'll get into it when we get back. Almost famous, the OGs.

We'll be back. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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All right, and we're back. And we're back. God, that was a long break. Oh, my gosh. I was wondering when we were ever going to get back to it. I almost totally passed out sleeping during that whole thing. Yeah, I can do that on a moment's notice. I can.

Maybe not today. I have too much to do. But, yeah, normally I can. So, okay, so OG versus IG, Bob's idea. And we're so excited to actually, like, kind of talk about how things were back in the day compared to how things were, are now. And the things that we post about on IG, I think, very similar. It's probably 90% about our kids. Yeah.

I, yeah, you just told a story before break about how someone not gave you a compliment in an insult, because I don't consider that necessarily a compliment. There was no compliment in there. No, there was no compliment. Unless he was saying I was mighty at one time, that's kind of a compliment. Yeah, that's right. That's true. Over-aligning. You were, that's right.

So I have a similar story, and this happened quite frequently. I feel like it probably happened to you, too, where people would come up to me and say, or even write me and say, oh, you look so much better in person. Oh, all the time. Yeah. But wait, I'm the same person. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks. Okay. I got to the point with that one where I would say, oh, so when like 30 million people were watching me on TV, I looked like dog shit. But when you meet me in the grocery store, I look amazing. Thanks, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. No, I definitely, I got that one a lot. I mean, it was, you know, oh, wait, you're not, you're not fat in person. I'm like, oh, thank you. people always think I'm way taller because of course I'm 5-2 and very petite I could tend to lose you know 5-10 but you know people always think that you're way taller in person and I definitely

am not so yeah there's that too but yeah which I kind which is kind of like an OGIG people can't tell how tall you are on IG no that's great too everybody's tall on Instagram I mean everybody's It's amazing. Everybody's having the greatest day of their lives, and they're six foot nine. I think, yeah, you know, my ex-wife was five to you, as is my current wife's five, four. Apparently I have a thing. And she was an actress. And so people would always say that to her, too, like, oh, you're so much tinier. I thought you'd be, you know. And so it kind of went hand in hand with my thing, which was like, oh, oh, you're not as fat as I thought you'd be. Totally. Thanks. So, yeah, so that's a good one. That's a good one. I like that one. Yeah. Okay. So we've got some questions that we've got some thought starters. And I just wanted to, I feel like this is really interesting that this was even like asked by the producers is we're gossip magazines like Us Weekly and People Around. Yes. And I just feel like, oh my gosh, really is it, do we really are we looking like we're that old? That old. Because they definitely were.

Yes, they were around guys. They've been around a very long time. You know, people. People magazine, you might be surprised. It's been around a little longer than 20 years. Same with us weekly. A lot longer. And like for my wedding, so at the wedding, which, you know, 30, no, 26 million people watched. And so lots of you out there listening may have watched back then. So when you watched, you probably knew that there were helicopters hovering over the ceremony when it was happening. Yes. And those helicopters were, in fact, magazines trying to. get a great shot for their for their magazine they wanted to get like an exclusive by actually being at the wedding also i don't know if you knew this because you were at the wedding but they walked up to people so the paparazzi or people from the magazines because they weren't going to be given

the photos until they were shared with everyone unless someone had an exclusive deal which is kind how it works. So the magazines, like, somehow got into the, uh, the, the hotel, uh, property. It was Rancho Mirage and now it's the Ritz Carlton and Palm Springs. And so they get there and they, they stuck, um, those little disposable cameras into bushes, into bushes. And they told people, actually, I think they ended up kind of somehow getting into the wedding and then they would tell people, there is a disposable camera in the bush over there. If you take a picture and then get it to me afterwards, we'll give you $5,000 or whatever it was. I think it was about $5,000. Yes, isn't that crazy? So yes, the magazines were most definitely around and actually probably

thriving even better than they do now because of social media. I feel like the magazines, the television shows, everyone has Instagram. Yeah, now it's about online content. For sure. Yeah. I don't pick up magazines like I used to. I don't know about you, but I used to grab them. But now that there's social media, you kind of see everything online. I will say this, so when I was on your season of The Bachelorette, and in between being on the Bachelorette and the Bachelor, the National Enquirer was in my front lawn at my house when I came home from the airport one day. And I'm like, you know, I'm one of those guys. I'm like, hi, how you do it? You know, I'm like, oh, hey. My mom's like, I'm surprised you didn't invite him in. I'm like, maybe I would have. You want some lemonade? Yeah, hey, can I get you guys up?

hot out here. Want some ice tea? Um, but you know, it was one of those things where it was sort of like, oh my God. And then, you know, yeah, I remember back then there was, um, you know, like I, I became friends with, you know, some of the same photographers. I'd see at different things and stuff. Yeah, right. All of a sudden, I, you know, I'd run into them at times when I didn't want to see them. And I was like, oh, no. You know, but yeah, it was definitely one of those things. They were around big time back then. But yeah, there was not really the online presence that it is today. Although I will tell you, oddly enough, so my wife and I have been married seven years now, six years, November 2016. And we got married in Punta Mita, Mexico, which is beautiful if you've ever

been. Yeah. And we rented this house and had the wedding at the house, and we actually stayed at the house as well. And, you know, I see this boat out there that I think is a fishing boat. And because I just don't, I just don't think anyone cares. So I'm like, oh, that's weird. There's a fishing boat out there today, you know? And so my wife comes out over and she's like, hey, what's up with that boat? And I'm like, I don't know, some guys are fishing. And she's like, I don't think so. I think that's paparazzi. I'm like, no, absolutely not. First of all, Lady Gaga was there for a friend's wedding. And I'm like, not at our wedding. She was at a, you know, at Puntumita. I'm like, she wasn't at your wedding? No, I can't believe she blew it off. I mean, what? No, RSP. I guess she didn't

have the number because I didn't know her. But had she been invited, I would have expected her as to be there. But anywho, I'm like, no, oh, they're probably looking for Lady Gaga, you know. And they'll find out, no. They, you know, they leaked our photos and we got some grief over that because, you know, we had like this thing. It wasn't even an exclusive thing, but it was just a thing that we were doing that I thought was going to be fun and with like Bride magazine is actually what. I was for my wife more than it was for me, actually. So I thought she would love it. And, you know, but yeah, these photos came out.

And I'm like, where? First of all, they're really good photos. I'm like, what a top quality lens that guy had. You know, but it was definitely from a distance and from a boat. And I was wrong. She was right, which I have come to find out for anyone who ever gets married that, you know, the wife is always right. And just as a guy, you just go admit it. Yep.

Yeah. That would save so many marriages. So many of my marriages. So many of my marriages. I mean, my God, it's amazing. I finally learned. It took me a couple. Just a couple.

Just a couple. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

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and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You reminded me of a story that we were in Europe for, actually it was a press event. We went to Monte Carlo, then we ended up going out on our own and we went to Cinqueatera in Italy. And we met this person and he was, he spoke. English. He was super nice. He was like, I'll take you around. My friend has this boat. I'm with Ryan.

If I had been with girlfriends, I never would have done this because I would be like, okay, random guy taking us out on a boat. Yeah, maybe not. So anyway, so he takes us out on this boat. We totally connected with him. And he dropped us off in this like cove, super private, super fun. It was beautiful. And we took a picture on the boat. He was like, oh, let's just take a picture, whatever, and of you guys, of me and of me and Ryan, he was like, let me take a picture of you guys. And, you know, we take a picture. And then we get home and it was, he had sold it to a magazine. I was like, really? Like, that's, why, why do I have to? Like, why are you putting this in my head that I can't just trust someone to be, you know, innocent and not wanting to sell a picture of us

to a magazine? Like, it's kind of a bummer that that's how the world was. And now, it's like all over social media if you go anywhere like really people can't sell pictures anymore because it's already linked to everything yeah i had a i had a weird experience with my class reunion in high school i'll never forget i really wanted to go you know because i was class president so it meant a lot to me to be there i don't know of course you were class president of course i was right so i go back and this guy tells me he's like yeah i got contacted by so and so and they wanted me to give them a picture and i'm like what and he's like they offered me a lot of Like one of your friends, one of your friends from high school?

I would say it was a person I knew, not someone who I would consider necessarily a friend. And he was like, you know, I figured I'd come to you and just tell you, you know, in that way, you know, if it's up to you. I mean, if you're cool, that I'll sell it. And if not, you know, you could just give me that money. And I was like, what? Sorry. No, thank you. I'm like, well, I'd rather you just didn't sell it and you didn't ask me for money.

That would be kind of cool. Uh, yeah. Thankfully, it ended up kind of working out that way, frankly. He ended up, uh, you know, he actually ended up not, uh, getting money from me and not selling it, which I thought was pretty cool. Okay, good. Good. Yeah, totally his decision.

Yeah. Yeah, I think he got, you got a little guilt from some of my buddies that, you know, were kind of like, you're not selling a picture, uh, to the, you know. Like for real. That's not cool. So, no, I don't know. But that was definitely back in the day. That was a different time.

And, you know, I think like you said, that doesn't necessarily exist like that anymore. But now people will do it. Intentionally. So now we've got people who come off the show and immediately are influencers. We've talked about this a lot. Everyone who has a Bachelor podcast talks about this a lot. I feel like it's a topic of conversation a lot. Because nowadays, when you go on the show, there is a very high probability that you'll get a lot of followers if you go far in the show, if people like you, if you're a villain and you've got a lot of drama surrounding you, you know, all of those things. And back in the day, it wasn't that, but it was, I remember, so I went into hosting a little bit because after the show, like after the Bachelor, I was like, this is really fun. I love this environment. Everyone is so fun and positive. Like all the producers, they're trying to hype you up, like keep you in a good mood. It's just, it was a really fun environment. And I thought, huh, maybe I could do something there. I was a pediatric physician. therapist at the time and it was very um what's the word uh it it fed my soul in a way but it wasn't necessarily what i would call a fun job you know it was more about the purpose of it you know helping kids and um so i would go and do interviews and people would be and the producers or whom ever i would work with or the on-air talent would say you know you're great at this why don't you do

this. Like, why, why have you not done this? And so, you know, after a bunch of those, I thought, oh, maybe I can do this. So I ended up in hosting. And I mean, I was on the view when they were looking at trying to hire someone. I can't remember what, who they were replacing at the time. And I did stuff for good day live and good day L.A. and Good Morning America. And extra I was a correspondent. And so I had a lot of fun, but I will say that I felt like there was a negative connotation to it, that people were like, oh, so she wanted to get into hosting. And that's why she did the show. But that's not true. It was the other way around. I went into the show. And then because I had so much fun and because of the experience I had

doing the interviews and getting the response that I did, I thought this could be a fun job. So I do think there was a negative connotation even back then. I know you did a lot of hosting too. Yeah. And did you feel that? Did you feel that people were kind of judging you for going to on-air entertainment? Oh, totally. But probably because I, you know, I didn't end up with my final pick. At least you ended up with your final pick. So you could be like, well, you know, for me, it's like, oh, look at this guy. And I was in entertainment before. You know, I was hosting local ABC affiliate. And then I was also a musician. So it was like, you know, I think a lot of people assumed that was the case, but no, much the same. I mean, it was just all these opportunities are in your lap and it's like, okay, sure, why not?

You know, if it fits in my schedule, my thing was, you know, I never quit my day job. So, like, for the longest time, I stayed in the mortgage industry and then as that kind of died, you know, in 2008, which was a long time ago for many of our listeners, I'm sure. But, you know, at the time, I had already been in that business for quite some time. and that, and I segued into, you know, basically a totally different industry, but very similar type of feel, you know, which was the insurance industry. So, but it was, it was one of those things where, you know, I loved doing it. I mean, and then they found me for shows that, like, fit things they knew I did. Like, I would take pictures. I was new to Instagram. I was very late, very, very long post-bashore before I was ever on Facebook, Instagram, any of that stuff.

And I would take pictures of houses I renovated, and because I really enjoyed that. And so I would get contacted by like TLC or, you know, HGTV and they're like, hey, we want you to host this show about a home renovation. I'm like, all right. You know, and it was fun. And it was exciting. Wait, I'm having a memory. Did you host a show on the game game show network? Yeah, for four years. Yeah. Were we on it? Were me and Ryan on it? No. Well, you were, so I was hosting a show around that show. So, um, you guys came on. What's it called bingo? Not bingo. No, bingo blitz. Bingo Blitz or something like that.

The one that I was on was Lingo. Oh my gosh, that's funny. It was Shandy Finacy. Shandy Finacy, yeah. Yeah, from Dancing with the Star. Well, she was on Dancing with the Stars, but she was also a Miss USA, I believe. Shandy was awesome. Yeah, she actually was a frequent guest on my show back then too.

Yeah, you know, same though. I mean, I think I started working with The View right away. And actually, Oprah was a big part of that. Oprah put a mic in my hand and made me her man on the street. So before I was even The Bachelor, I did like, I did like 10 episodes where I'd be like Oprah's Man on the Street. Hey, it's Bob, you know, Trista's lovable loser here in the streets of Chicago, you know. Trista's love a loser. Shut up.

And it was fun, you know, I mean, it was really a fun gig. But you're right. I mean, I think they're probably, I'm super unaware of everything. I'm oblivious to, like, I just think everybody and I are best friends. So I probably didn't pick up on it and it was there. You know, you're probably a little more. tuned into real life and not with your head in the clouds like me. So I think, you know, I definitely remember thinking to myself, like I would hear it a lot when I would do a show and

they'd go, man, we kind of expected you to be like a prima donna and you're actually really fun to hang out with. And I'm like, oh, thanks. Why would I have been to be a lot? You know, so. I know. Yeah. Yeah. I've gotten that a lot too. But I feel like so in back in the day, I feel like the route for some of us, you and I included, was to go into some kind of of television hosting in a way. There weren't podcasts back then. There were radio shows. But that was kind of a little bit of what people would do with it because some were like

me, I feel like, and they just thought it was a really fun industry and they had never been, you know, involved in it before. And then there were some that, of course, I'm sure they went on the show. They were actors prior. They were hosts or in some way, shape, or form in journalism or, um, entertainment and they went that direction. So it's kind of similar, but obviously nowadays, I feel like when you go on the show, you're immediately changing your account to something that people will follow and you know, you're putting it in your bio and all of those things.

Because let's be honest, the opportunities that are there, it's like silly. Like why wouldn't you for those people that come off the show. I don't, I, as a kind of more traditional, and I say traditional, even though I met my husband and got engaged after six weeks, but as a more traditional person, I would like for people to go on the show

with the intent of forming a relationship if they end up liking the person and having a connection. Yeah. But that's not to say that they can't after the show think, oh, well, if a bunch of people are following me and I have these opportunities, then you know what? Do you go for it? Yeah. Well, that's just it. I mean,

you can't, you know, they're for the grace of God, right? So it's like, with so much of our things that happen in our lives, it's like all you can do is control how you would respond to that situation. And until you're in it, until you're in it, you don't know how you're going to respond, right? So, I mean, at the end of the day, you know, if you're getting a bunch of opportunities thrown at you, which generally include some type of financial compensation and, you know, you're, you know, you're someone who's, from, you know, like, I mean, wherever it is America, and you're like, oh, my God, this could be so

fun, you know, or, wow, this can be very lucrative. Or maybe I could make this a career. You never know. And you got to take advantage of those opportunities. And so I don't hate on anybody for that kind of stuff. You know, I think it's, what I think is interesting. One of the questions we got, too, which I think is pretty interesting, was nowadays, contestants leave the show and are considered celebrities. And was this the case for you to? Do people who know who you were when they saw you in public. And I would answer this one definitely about the being noticed in public thing. Like, you know, it went, it was an overnight thing to the point where I think I told you, I ended up like giving a brush cut at one point because my big curly mop, you know, they either thought

I was, I was either thought I was Bachelor Bob or I was Joe Millionaire because of Evan Mary out of the time. So it was like, I was like, God, you know, this is crazy. But it was fun, because everyone was always so nice. You know, I never was one of those people. And then you'd meet those people, and I'm sure this still happens, I'm sure this still happens to you, because I know it still happens to me, where they'll go, oh, I never watched that show. I don't watch those stupid reality shows. Can I get a picture? And you're like, how do you, why are you? For my wife, for my husband, whatever. Yeah. I'm like, why, if you didn't ever watch it, how do you even know who I am? That's kind of weird. Yeah. It's like a dig at the same time. They're like, you're not,

you're not that important, but I'm going to spend my time talking to you. And I will say like back then, you know, when we were doing the shows, it was, it was so early on in reality television in general that, you know, my thought of it was always, and this was, especially after I was done with the show and I met my now ex-wife, but she was an established actress and stuff, I didn't ever want to be, like, I always thought, now, she's a, she's a celebrity, right? I'm just a, I'm a personality that people know who they are, you know, and so I always categorize myself like that, and, you know, and, and, but it was amazing, you know, the fact that so many people did watch it. I mean, you know, Oprah was such a fan.

of your season, which led her to be a big fan of me, thankfully, which I felt like she, you know, was truly a friend. And it was like amazing to me to be in a situation with Oprah where she's like, hey, Bob. And I'm like, hey, oh, how are, you know. And it was really unreal, you know, and I went back on it. And, you know, Ellen DeGeneres had us on a ton, you know, and all these, I mean, I did, I know you did as well. I did every time. I worked for The View for three years. I did all the renovation stuff. And, you know, and. It was just fun and interesting and different, but I never, I never thought of myself as a celebrity. I thought of myself as someone who, um, personality.

Yeah, a personality who thankfully people liked from the show, you know. Exactly. And so I never ran into problems with it, which was nice. Right. No, I felt the same way. And any time we're brought up as being celebrities or a question is asked about, how do you feel about being a celebrity? I'm like, eh, you know, celebrities like, you know, I don't know about. that term, but personality, I, yeah, media personality, I guess is what you would say, because

we're from reality television. I see more celebrities as like movie stars or rock stars or, you know, like, legit movie stars and rock stars, you know, that have dedicated themselves to their career for their entire life. And I just happened to be on a reality show where I ended up meeting this great guy, we get married and people enjoyed listening or watching the story unfold you know that's it um i am very thankful yeah yeah and i always say i got to hand out flowers and i was that great guy that you did that great guy that you didn't marry that that was me right yeah i mean we're very great no what wait what i missed it oh no i said i said i said i and on your show i was that great guy that you

didn't marry p s yeah um yeah anyway you know like i mean i say yeah right i mean that's this is reality. I did not marry it. Oh my God. I love it. Well, this has been enlightening to me. I feel like I've learned a lot today. People answer your calls. They don't answer mine. These are good things to know. Oh, stop it right now. Yes, we tied. What are you talking about? We tied. Only because I did a bonus consolation

round for myself. We would have never tied. I had done that. So thank you. It's because he texted you back. Because you had the wherewithal to actually text him and say, we're trying to call you. So he calls you back. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, it's so fun. I do want to end on. I am really grateful for the show and the opportunities that we had along the way, like getting to meet people like Ellen and Oprah and doing, you know, award shows and things. I mean, back in the day, we went to the IHeart jingle ball. I think it was the jing ball. And I got to announce, like, Nelly. And I'm from St. Louis. So getting to announce Nelly, like, was super cool, you know. So anyway, those kind of opportunities were so much fun. I'm so grateful for them. And obviously, we wouldn't be here today talking to each other and to the people in podcast world if that hadn't happened. So I'm really grateful. And thank you, Iheart. And thank you

Bob Guinea. And thank you everyone for listening. See, you're so good at this. I love, you know what? You should have a podcast. I think you'd really do great on. But yes, thank you for listening, everybody. And, you know, are we allowed to give proper love to Amy Sugarman, who I adore, but by the way? I would love to give proper love to Amy Sugarman. Actually, so I was with her, as you know, this past week. And we actually took a picture. I don't think I have any other pictures with Sugarman, even though I've known her since the beginning.

Like Sugarman, if you're listening, which she will be, she'll be reading the dictation after So, Sugarman, when you're reading the Dictation, will you look back at the Seacrest show or any shows that I did with you, Valentine, you know, all of those things, and see if we have a picture? Because I need a picture of us from forever ago. I know, such a legacy she has already, man. And she's young and just crushes it. But, I mean, I loved her. I loved her then. I love her now.

And you know what? I always loved Ryan Seacrest, too. I mean, he was a big, when the show first came off the year. when my season just ended, I should say, and I went on, you know, the thing I loved about Ryan is he would talk about, clearly he had a great producer and Amy Sugarman and everything else that she did for him, because, I mean, he would know stuff that so many people didn't know. Like the homework was done, you know, and he'd be like, well, Bob, you were an established musician before you were ever even on the Bachelorette, you know, and I'm like, thanks, man, whereas

everyone else, I would go on the show and they'd go, so what, you hand out a flower, you think you can sing? I'm like, no, that's kind of not the order. You know, it was so nice. It's like Jay Leno on Tonight Show. I don't know if you ever went on Tonight Show. I did. My band played on there. Yeah.

Oh, that's amazing. But he, I went on there. I was with all the women of the view, including Barbara Walters. Yeah. And then another time. And I swear he looked right past me through like, you know, he could have cared less that I was sitting in his chair. And you knew it. When we did, when we did, we had band from TV on there.

And, you know, he was. Hugh Laurie was that. guest that night so and he was in my band you know we're in the band together and he you know to all the guys in the crowd i mean we had james denton from desperate housewives we got all the guys from heroes we had myself we had you know all these different people he only talked to hugh and it was funny because we're all kind of like now after the show he was super nice you after the show he came over but it was like oh no kidding oh yeah yeah yeah during the show and i'll say backstage he came and said hi before and i think maybe after but while i was on the show i was just

just like, why am I even here? Like, he does not care. Ryan Sechrist, you're right. He's total opposite. Like, he makes you feel seen. He makes you feel like you're worthy of being on the show. So thank you, Ryan Seacrest. And that has a lot to do with you, Sugarman.

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