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Episode Date: January 14, 2025Attention! Trista and Bob welcome Jovon "Q" Charles, a Directing Staff member from "Special Forces." He talks about his seven-time deployment and 22-year military background that he brings to th...e show as Bob touches on the emotional journey as a viewer watching his friend go through the tough times on television.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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bob welcome back to the almost famous o g podcast i'm really excited we have one of the ds jovan q
did i just hear you laugh q um no maybe that was you bob um jovan q charles he
is one of the DS and if you don't recognize the name and if you saw the show, he's the one
that was following me. Let's say that. Following me out of the beach. He was following you and
peppering you basically. He's like, you don't belong here. You're done. Get out of here.
Yep. Exactly. So I'm really excited to talk to him. This is kind of the first time that I've had
interaction with any of the DS after the show.
And I am a little bit.
Are you nervous?
I mean, obviously, you know, you know they're good people.
Hi.
Yeah.
I would imagine it would be a nerve-wracking experience for you.
Hi, Kew.
How's it going?
It's good.
So, Q, this is my co-host for our almost famous OG podcast.
This is Bob Guinea.
He was actually on The Bachelorette with me.
me uh when i was the bachelorette do you even know what the bachelorette is by the way
i do know what the bachelorette is that's probably a good question because i was going to say yeah
then i was the bachelor after but you don't know the bacheloret or the bachelor but it is kind of
funny you had two i mean you've had several uh people from the bachelor franchise on the show uh as you've
been affiliated with it just in general uh obviously trista
is the toughest.
Yeah, no.
Trista's a G.
That's true.
She is, right?
She's a real G.
But no, you're totally right.
I do.
We have had a lot of the bachelor bacheloretts and all that stuff on the show.
So it's been, it's been good to see how y'all respond to the heck.
That's a good.
That's a good word.
Hictic.
It's a lot of it.
There's a lot of it.
those words um okay so welcome i would i would love to hear because they don't really do enough of
this i feel like on the show your background and um how you became part of the show well um my background
22 years in uh in the military i just retired in 2021 right uh as all the cast and everyone knows
i'm a former navy seal so i did that most of my career okay um i've deployed seven times in my career
out of 22 years.
Great time, you know, got all my fingers in tow, so I'm all good, right?
And from where my background, I will say from where I come from, originally, I'm originally
from Washington, D.C. That's where my home state is.
And, but I kind of, I kind of read both. I'm from Washington, D.C., but I finished high school
in North Carolina. So it's everything. I joined the Navy in June 99 from Charlotte, North Carolina,
Which is where I'm at right now.
And you enlisted directly?
Yeah.
This is all coming up because my son is actually considering applying.
He kind of wants to be a Navy SEALQ.
So I might be calling you.
So did you enlist?
I know there's a few different ways that you can become part of the military in the United States.
Did you enlist?
I did.
I did.
I came in, I mean, straight raw, right?
When I was in the military, so one of the reason I came, I joined the military is because I had kids in high school.
So that's a whole area of where I come from, right?
You know, I was my, I didn't, I didn't have my mom growing up.
I was raised with my grandparents.
My mom was a drug act.
Oh, wow.
She was in and out of prison a lot.
So I never knew what my dad was.
So my grandmother took that responsibility in my aunts and uncles.
They all kind of played that role as to raising me, I guess you would say.
So took me from D.C. to North Carolina.
still have my issues, again, had my kids in high school with a teenage dad then.
And my grandmother was like, okay, you're going into the military.
This is how it's going on.
You're going in the military so you can help take care of the kids and get out of this craziness, right?
So it was a good idea.
I think in hindsight, you know, she was very sick as well, diabetic, amputee from the knee down, right knee down.
So she was the one who initially pushed me into the military, which I had never wanted to do.
was just not one of the things.
I wanted to go play football.
I was a football star and all that stuff,
but it worked out.
You know,
if I couldn't be a pro athlete or a collegiate athlete,
being a Navy SEAL truly is the next best thing.
Not really the next best thing is really the thing
because I've done so much, right?
I could be a special, I mean,
I can be a pro athlete or even a collegian athlete,
but collegian athletes, pro athletes,
they couldn't do what Navy Seals do,
you know what I'm saying?
And so it's one of those things where I have respect for them.
I have respect for anybody that's a professional in any industry that they're doing, right?
I have complete respect.
But when I look at what I've done and what the SEAL teams have done as a whole across the world, you know, it takes the right person to be this, to do this, you know.
When I graduated in my class, we only graduated 15 minutes, but we had 270 start.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow.
This is the normal of when people.
And still, this is reality.
It's hard.
It's a year-long training.
Just as much as we gave it to you on the show, imagine what we get on in realistic life of the training pipeline.
Can't even imagine.
They don't shake your hand until you graduate.
You're not cool at all until you graduate.
And then when you get you a seal team, it's like you start all over again.
So those are some of the things, is how I got involved in the SEAL teams, is how it all started to me.
you know, to be honest with you.
That's incredible.
I love that.
But my father was a Marine.
I have incredible respect for anyone who serves a country.
And especially when Trista said, you know, that her son wants to be a Navy SEAL,
I was going to pipe in and say, I think every single guy in the world would tell you if they could do anything, you know, in my mind.
Like I tell Trista this all the time.
I watch a movie and I walk away going, I need to get, I think I can still do it.
I think, you know, first of all, there's no way.
There's no way I can do it.
But, yeah, just a tremendous amount of respect and admiration and appreciation for what you've done with your career and, and, you know, for what the Navy SEAL teams have done, you know, for our country.
I mean, it's amazing.
Having someone on the show, like, like Trista, who obviously, you know, is coming into this at a later stage in, in her preparation for sealed them.
I like that.
You're very careful.
I kind of really delicate.
I just got, see, that's why I couldn't make it on the show or as a Navy SEAL.
I just started sweating.
So when you have someone like Trista on there, and people like Stephen Baldwin and everyone that's on the show, even Cam Newton, I mean, I'm sure you see things in them that you know they're, they have the fortitude and they have the courage, they want to be there and they're putting themselves in this situation.
But, I mean, what was someone like, for example, like for Trista, when you would kind of like size her up and you'd see she has tenacity?
and she has grit, but what was her, what was her or shortcoming? If there was one,
that would have possibly stopped her. If there was one. That could have possibly stopped her
for becoming a seal. How was that? Now you put me on the spot. I love you, Bob. I'm just pushing
it on the queue. There you go. Yeah, you push that on to me now, so you want me to be the bad.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I'll answer it. I'll be the bad guy.
Wow. Wow. Okay. I like it. I like it. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. Yeah.
I don't remember this. Oh, my gosh. Oh, man. So, all right. Like, how do I tiptoe into this?
You know what? I'll help a little bit. So I have to tell a funny story. And I don't know if you remember this cue. So you, hopefully you do. But I walked up to where we were going to jump off the bridge. And I got to.
to the top. Like, you know, you climb up this really steep hill by yourself. You know,
Golden's not there to carry my pack. I didn't have my pack. But, you know, no one's there to help
me. So I climb up this hill and I get to the top. And Q is waiting there. And do you remember
what you said to me and what I said back? I don't really remember. You got to break that way.
Oh, my God. You're going to laugh. Hopefully you're going to giggle. So you were like, why are you so
out of breath. What took you so long? And I was like, uh, I'm 51 years old. I'm out of breath.
I'm out of shape and I have asthma. And you were like, yep, and you walked away.
Okay. Yep, sounds about right. You definitely gave me everything I needed to hear. I was like,
oh, good assholes. I got nothing. I got nothing on that. I got nothing. I got nothing.
That's perfect. I was like, well, if I'm being honest, like, I'm totally.
shape and I'm 51 you know it was really it was a funny moment and and a moment that I feel like
hopefully you know at least to yourself you're finding like a little humor because I can't even
imagine but let's go back to Bob's question so what do you think is my weakness?
All right all right for all the people watching this and don't see me hate mail at the end of this
No, no. I mean, I'll probably, you know, say, yep, he's, he's totally right. But I am curious to see, like, what you, what you thought of it. Like, as someone who sees all these celebrities come through it, and, you know, I'm small. I'm older. You know, I don't, I'm not a professional athlete. I'm not an Olympic star. You know, I'm sure you have certain judgments that you have to make because you
guys are judging us, essentially.
So, yeah, I'd love to know, like, what I can work on just from my own personal perspective,
what I could utilize from your experience and how I can better myself.
Well, I'll initially say, like, for the general, right, for everyone who comes on
the show, one, typically everyone is not physically in condition in some kind
away like me i even at 44 years old i hold my conditioning to the utmost highest standard for me right
i don't i want a 100 year old man is still a beast in this world and i will always carry and be
that way and i think for the the broad spectrum of it all everyone comes in not really physically
ready for that and then there's others who are even not even close to that they're even worse
uh and then mentally people are assuming the celebrities that come on the show assuming that there
will be a little bit of a low where you get to go and relax and you can kind of, you know,
have a little chill time where, you know, maybe a hotel, maybe your cell phone back, you get
to kind of relax.
Yeah, no.
We strip all that away and we let all that done.
We treat you like you are really on a deployment because we want you try to get a full understanding
of what we had to go through for the years of seven, eight, nine months, depending on if you
was a seal, you're gone for seven to eight.
If you're a marine, you could be gone for an entire year.
SAS, SBS, the same thing.
So we want people to understand that, you know, you're isolated in this, in these positions.
And you're mentally, you have to be in the game.
You have to be all in on what you're doing.
And I think a lot of the celebrities come in not really understanding.
That's how it's going to be.
Because as you know now, this reality show is not like any other reality show ever.
And we've really, you know, kicked the crap out of you.
So I would say for you personally, the physical aspect of it was huge for you, right?
And then you have asthma, you have all those things, your age and all that stuff.
But it's something that because you're a family person, right?
It's not something that you're really coming to or normal to in your normal daily life,
your routine because you're a mom and wife, you all these different things.
So you're going to come into it with that weakness, right?
And then the mental aspect of it is another thing.
There's a lot of fear in you on this thing.
So, you know, I can't remember you.
No shit.
First of all, Q, you're answering this brilliantly.
I mean, honestly, I'm just blowing away.
I'm like, God, he's doing great at this.
I'm not scared.
I've seen a lot because I was also an instructor before I got out of the Navy, you know.
So I got the chance to see what it's like on the instructor's side for kids who's trying to come in and beat me.
Like your son, Tristan, I got to see now, because at first I wasn't always in the instructor role.
So I didn't get the chance to look at them from the other side.
But when I did, it was like, whoa.
oh yeah is that what i looked like when i went through yeah right that's snotty nose flying and throwing up
and like oh man it's so funny inside but generally that's what it is you know the mindset of
the thing is you're going through hell the entire time right it's the worst thing it's a lot of fears
you never done this before um you got people yelling at you know and and if you're not mentally
prepare for the, especially us, the verbal abuse that we're giving you, right?
And it's the own verbal abuse.
There's a purpose behind it because we're meant to break you down and see if you can
still push through all of that.
If you can not hear it, if you can shut it out and still, even when you fail a task,
can you tell yourself to pick yourself up, it's all right, let me keep moving on,
even though I'm in your ass the entire time and telling you that, telling you you're not,
this is not for you, telling you you're a failure to the rest of the team, the rest of
your classmates and whoever and see how you can manage that, you know, all that hell and all that
that case.
That's the whole.
So I think a lot of that stuff, everyone that comes on the show, they have, they struggle
with all those aspects of what I just said.
So you have, you had your struggles with that as well.
And the physical part, I think you would probably be a little bit more physical condition.
You would have been able to probably push through some more of the things that we were giving
you.
That's what I would say.
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
And I'll tell you.
kind of a background I they approached me I think about three months before and I was I was basically
signed up I was going through the like medical clearance and they weren't going to clear me medically
because I have I had a I had back surgery I had a lumbar fusion and um at one point the doctor was like
well I just don't know if you could handle being pushed off a boat and I was like being pushed
off a boat. Holy crap. So basically I had to get my doctors involved and ended up obviously
getting cleared. But during that time, I'm super superstitious. And I didn't work out when I was
waiting. So I lost like at least a month of training that would really have helped.
Three months, three-dollar months would have definitely put you in a better bracket physically to
handle a lot of the stuff that we was doing with it, especially when you start running with
back, all that stuff, it weighs on you, like your lower back starts to hurt and be painful.
Yes.
You're so uncomfortable, your neck from the straps.
People don't realize how miserable you completely are when you add weight to your body
and you're always wearing this weight and you're always doing this certain thing and you're always running here and you get, yep.
They don't realize the case, oh, whew, they don't realize it, but it's good.
It's good to see what you come through.
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Gives you a whole new respect, too, I'm sure, right, Trista?
I mean, I know you have friends who have trained in our Navy SEALs and things that are retired now as well.
I will say this, you know, watching the show, I mean, I got literally emotional watching the show because, you know,
You know, I know a lot of the people that were on this season, and I was just watching how you guys are, I mean, but I also feel like, you know, you guys have been there and done it. And you clearly still keep yourself in spectacular condition. Everyone looked like they're in such great shape. But it's funny, you know, when you went into the, I think it's called the mirror room and you kind of would be, you know, and it was like the one time on the show where we'd see you guys actually, you know, as the DS is sort of not ever letting the guard down because that was one thing Denise Richards commented on.
too. She had said she kind of had thought, you know, oh, we'll go to a lounge or something.
She's like, where's the lounge? You know, where's craft services?
But you kind of get to know these people, which I thought, man, you guys aren't just great
at what you've trained your whole life to do. You're really good at getting us as a viewer
to like, you know, you kind of got to the heart and soul what made these people give this thing
a shot in the first place and why they're there and why they're not just in their cushy
lifestyles and um and i was just watching it thinking man they they've got to be feeling for this
person you know but i so i have to ask like you know in your role were there ever moments where you
were like oh man we got to back off of this person or was it because of your training because you
know what you've gone through you're like okay we got to step it up on this person in that moment
where we're all at home going pump the brakes you know give her give her a minute was there ever like
that moment where you guys it's not like you smell blood in the water but you see this person and
you're like, okay, we got to push harder now, or where are you in those moments?
Yes and no, to answer to that, really right out of the bat.
Yeah, you'll see that and you want to push and you'll see that and you're like,
oh, let me lay in up a little bit on this person.
Yeah.
We want to, we want to challenge you, period, hands down.
We want to give you full bore, challenged 1,000% what it's like 100%, right, 100% of the time.
But you'll get to a point where you see someone, say like a Denise, right, herself,
When on the scene, you saw me pulling her number.
Yeah.
She was thinking about it back, right?
And if she sees this, Denise, I have nothing more respect for you, girl.
Don't everything.
Everything, this is personal, okay?
Right.
Yeah.
Sometimes celebrities will take some of that stuff personal.
I mean, I get it.
We took it.
I didn't like my instructors when I went through.
I hated them.
But when we graduated, I understood why.
I agree.
They did that to me.
Why they was in life, why they made me feel so.
like I shouldn't be there.
I understood it at the end.
Yeah.
It was and all that stuff.
But it was so funny.
And I still, even when I would meet them, even when I was in a SEAL team, I still looked at them as the instructor.
I would still call them almost instructor.
Right.
At the same level, but I would still want to say that because they gave me so much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So when I have those things go on the show, you know, like with Denise, for example,
there was part of me that wanted to push and force her back in because I felt she could do more,
but she was willing to just wetting to let it go.
But I'm like, you can do more,
but you're giving me something here that I can't continue with, right?
Because if I allow you to complain about your back is sore,
because that's really what it was.
The back is sore.
It's not that you hurt.
You're not about to break your back.
Everyone's back is tired.
Everyone's knees hurting, all that stuff.
But allow you to keep doing this and then put you back.
in, then the other, what the other
celebrity is going to think. Okay,
maybe I can just, can I see a medic?
You know, my knee hurt a little bit. Can I get a little pause?
No, you don't get that. In reality, we don't get all.
You know, once you start going to the medic, the
instructors are looking at you. They're writing your name down.
They're going to get you out of it for real.
We don't need that. We don't need somebody who's trying to
dodge what we're doing.
We're not going to kill you.
We are going to extremely challenge you.
So I was not going to just let her go back in at that
point. So I was like, you know what?
she's been out long enough, you know, the girls and everyone else
have been dealing with everything that's going on with a surf emergent exercise.
Man, that one, whew.
Yeah.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Give her a chance, but I just couldn't give her that extra chance again because it
already happened, I think, in the pool in the beginning.
I think, yeah.
Beehive.
I think she kind of.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think something happened there, and I was like,
we can't keep doing this now.
So, and remember, we've run the show.
It's not produced tours and all that stuff.
And so we create the tactics and all the obstacles.
We create that.
We don't want the celebrities thinking they can go and talk to, you know,
Paul's timeout.
Can I go and talk to whoever over here?
Right.
We'll go with us.
Yeah.
That's, if I may interrupt, that's what I think makes this show so different is, you know,
everybody kind of like what Denise had said.
And I mean, you know, I think everyone would probably go into it thinking,
oh, you know, if we've done one of these shows in the past, we can kind of pull aside,
excuse me, you know, and you're buying yourself time, right?
And you know, they know what they're doing when they do that.
And especially when everyone else is all linked together and basically being, you know,
the experience of drowning essentially.
And it's like, and she's up there having a little chat, you know, I get it.
I think you're right.
I'd be, I'd be bitter if I'm still down there to swallow gallons of seawater.
I'd be like, get her ass back in here.
So I totally get that.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's terrible.
You know, we went through that.
And I'm telling you, that is, and we go through what is even, the surf is a little worse.
You know, you got some waves coming in.
So now it's like smashing you down on your face.
And it's even harder because you truly feel like you can't breathe.
You're uncomfortable.
You can't open your eyes.
The sand and saw it's like lingering here.
So you get up and I have you sit up.
You just still can't do it.
You just, mistrista, miserable, right?
Uh-huh.
Just being, that is, you know, actually, I was, you know, actually, I was.
let you explain how you felt going through that piece of it. Oh, my. Well, okay, so what people
don't see is, and obviously being from reality television, I know that so much ends up on the
cutting room floor. Like, there's just not enough time to show everybody, everything. And there's
16 different people. So you want to show, like, you know, everyone's stories and, like, the whole
process. So what people did not see is we got down to the beach.
And it looks like we immediately went into the immersion, the linked arms activity.
But that's not true.
We were doing sprints with our boots on, on sand, you know, which is really hard to do if you've
never gone running in the sand.
It's not an excuse.
It's just really hard.
So we're doing sprints.
And then I think the next thing was we had to grab the, like, giant logs and the sandbags
and take them to the beach.
And so we were doing that, like back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth.
And those logs, how much did those logs weigh?
Do you know?
Yeah, yeah.
We kind of try to get what we use in buds.
So for people on the world,
there's buds that's for basic underwater demolition seal training.
Those laws can weigh in between 250 to 300310,
somewhere right in there.
It just depends.
And you got you.
I am so blown away by that.
Really? Holy crap. No kidding. I had a hard time.
So, and then the sandbags, how much do those way? Or did those way on the beach?
Yeah, we just kind of put in a bunch of sand. And those maybe gotten up to like 50 pounds, something like that.
Okay. Well, hence the reason why I could not lift it over my head. I was literally like, I can't. I know you want me to, but I can't.
Trista's dry weight is just north of 50 pounds on a normal day anyway
of her full body weight, you know, 5'2, 69 pounds.
I do remember that too.
I do remember holding it overhead.
That was a good one.
Yeah, I remember the sand was pouring on your head.
And I will say, like, thanks to all the DS, at that moment,
I remember locking eyes with, I think, Foxy and Billy
because I literally couldn't push it up.
It was sitting on my head.
And at least both of them, I'm sure you saw me too,
but they just looked past me.
They were like, get it above your head.
And I'm like, I can't.
And they just looked past me, thank God,
and gave me some grace in that moment.
But I will say, so you don't see half of what we did on the beach.
And I was exhausted.
I will say, Q, my biggest fear going into this, well, one of them was open water.
I'm really fearful of open water.
And I kind of shocked myself because in the beehive, well, first in the boat to helicopter jump,
I wasn't even thinking about the fact that we were going to be in the water maybe at some point.
And then, oh, and when we jumped from the boat, sorry, go back to that.
or we got pushed from the boat and we had to swim.
I was being weighed down by my clothes and I'm normally an okay swimmer,
but I was not even thinking about my fear.
Same thing at the beehive.
Like I stayed.
I was treading water.
I think I passed that one, I think,
but I literally went to the side like seconds before you guys called like everyone
go to the side.
So I was proud of myself in that moment.
And then the beach,
I really was not thinking about how cold I was.
was. I wasn't thinking about like the fact that we were drowning and you're going to laugh at this
little part. So during the surf immersion when we're linked up, you guys said, you know, put your
legs back and, you know, rock whatever, rock whatever. I don't know what your exact instructions were,
but I got confused. I don't know if anyone saw me. I haven't even said this to anyone yet,
but I did a full on like somersault on my back, like a back roll.
I think I, I think I. Did you see me? I saw that. I think I did. I think I do recall that happening. Yeah. I literally was like, what are they talking about? So I just went, I rolled on backwards and then I had to reconnect. Yes. You broke the link. You broke the chain. I did. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm breaking my chain. I did. I did. I did. I did it. Yep, I did it.
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You didn't have to audition?
No, I didn't audition.
I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years.
Oh, wow.
That's a real G-talk right there.
Oh, yeah.
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You feel like you get a little whitewash
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I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
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So anyway, yes, it was, it's so much harder than people think.
Sorry, Ryan's waving at me.
So much harder than people think because you don't see like half, even like three quarters of what
we do. So it was, and it's intimidating. You know, you guys are intimidating. And I know you're
supposed to be. You're supposed to be breaking us down to make us better. And, um, and I totally
get that at one point also at the end of the exercise. I stopped Rudy because I was about to
pass out. Like I, I was like, I am really dizzy. I feel like I'm going to faint. And he was like,
okay, do you want to give me your armband? Same situation like with you and Denise.
And I was like, no, I don't want to leave yet.
And he was like, well, you can't go see a medic.
So it's either give me your armband or you keep going.
And I'm like, okay, fine, I'll keep going.
And then, yeah.
Before you finish, just because you made that decision, right, you made that conscious
decision.
That is what we want.
We want, we're looking for it, right?
You know, with Denise and all respect to her, she couldn't make that decision, right?
In that heat of it, and that rest and that chaos, she was thinking about, you know, I just need this break.
Well, guess what?
If you finish, you'll get a chance to go see Medic later, either at the end of the night or early morning.
We're not going to kill you, and your back is going to break.
So when you said that to Rudy, you made a conscious decision to go further, right?
To push further.
Yeah.
Really dig deep of who you are and your true character, right, and see who you really are.
And you showed that with that.
And then I got on you as we kept going.
But that was what we're talking about.
That's what people in general lose.
They don't understand.
You do have the fortitude to keep going.
You do have your own power to keep going.
People lose that idea and they don't realize they can go,
they can push themselves further than what their initial situation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
You get, like, caught up in the fear and the pain and the, like, mental, you know,
the devil on your shoulder, like I said in the trailer.
like you listen to that devil a whole lot easier when you're in pain and you're super scared
and you're getting yelled at and you're tired and you're exhausted and you're sick and you know
all of these things so yeah but you know obviously mind over matter it is a thing it's a thing
you know most people don't know when I went through hell week it put me in the hospital
because I was really leave yeah well you know how hell week goes
from Sunday night to Friday morning.
So that's when the hell week starts.
Sunday, Friday morning.
And you only get roughly three or four hours of sleep,
if I can recall,
and throughout the entire week.
Oh, wow.
And that first nap is like a two-hour nap you get on Tuesday, right?
Tuesday and Wednesday and the next one you get on Wednesday.
Wow.
And honestly, you don't get to sleep.
You can't sleep.
One of you're in a tent that's outside.
It's still doing the middle of work.
day. So you hear people walking around going to work. You hear, you know, cars driving by you,
you're not sleeping. You're in your wet form, right? You're in your wet uniform. And you're on a cot.
The cot is not comfortable, right? No. Then dead heat of the day. So you're not sleeping for this
two hours. You're resting, but your body is like trying to heal. So you're shaking.
Your body is just constantly shaking in the state of healing. You can't control. So on Thursday,
we did medical checks. On Thursday, we do medical checks where,
they got to make sure, you know, nothing's going to happen to you, right?
Because there's a point of training where it can become a hazard.
Now, there is a point to that, though.
It has to be that intense.
Our training has to be this intense.
Sometimes you'll see politicians or try to make our program somewhat easier,
our selection program.
We're like, no.
And you'll see a lot of Navy SEALs who have power step up and say,
no, we're not making our selection program lighter just because y'all fear that people get hurt.
you know, all this happens, this happens.
And every so often, you know, someone may lose their life in our training pipeline.
But, yeah.
Again, when you're thinking about terror, terrorism around the world and keeping America safe,
our selection program has to be this intense.
It has to be that hard.
Right.
You're stuck for this.
You want to be that man.
You want to be that silent profession.
You want to have a stake in protecting people.
You got to know what you're dealing with.
Yeah.
Yeah. On Thursday, I had this pain when the medical checks was checking all of us out.
We're in the underwear, shoulder to shoulder, and they come by and just ask, hey,
you have any kind of pain anywhere? What's going on with you? Blah, blah, blah.
And it got to me, and I was like, well, I got a little abdominal pain.
Don't know what it is. Just a little abdominal pain.
I think I need some pepto-bizmo or something just to help me get through because we're in the afternoon on Thursday.
And the training in hell we end Saturday, Friday morning, excuse me, around eight-nightish.
so I'm all there right I'm right at the finish line I can see it you know Thursday afternoon
I only know I got a few more hours to go you know a whole 24 hours and the doc has me sitting on the
ground he's like lay down lay down he presses on my stomach and it was just terrible pain
just by him pushing on my stomach and it was like you're going to the hospital you're done
and I was like freaking out oh whoa wait I only got a couple more hours and I'm done whoa I just need
some medicine and I can keep moving.
I'm not going to...
Totally.
I mean, I'm freaking out with this guy now, right?
Because I know I'm about to lose my dream.
This dream of being...
Yeah.
...is about to go.
My one-time opportunity to have this chance
to be this thing, this huge
thing that I really wanted to be for my family,
for my friends to see where I come from,
to see that I can achieve this thing,
this big thing.
Yeah.
I couldn't, right?
So I started to cry.
Oh, man.
And then I couldn't, there was no instructor staffs around because I wanted to talk to them
so I could look at them, no, I'm not, I'm not quitting and all this thing and that.
And nobody was around.
And I got, I got eventually put in the ambulance and sent to the hospital.
And they said my kidneys were shutting down eventually.
Wow.
It was, so my muscles were breaking down internally poisoning myself.
And in that aspect, I couldn't flesh it out because, you know, you're not eating that much.
Your body is at as extreme exertion.
right? You're doing all kinds of things. You're with a boat in your head. You're carrying those logs like
crazy. Oh, it was just intense. So that's how my muscle breaking down was poisoning. So I get in the
hospital. I'm trying to call. Oh, my gosh. Oh, it was the worst. It was the worst trust. It was the
worst. So that is awful. Is it Rabdo? Did you have Raddo? You know what that is?
That's what it was. My husband has had that. He, yeah, it is not good. Not good. Like,
you can die.
Yes.
Right?
Yeah.
You can die from it.
That's really scary.
Well,
I'm glad you pushed through.
How did you get back into the mix?
They made me stay overnight.
And I finally got an instructor on a call on the phone because I was not going.
It got me hooked up to this.
I mean, my fingers is all covered up.
I mean, I was jacked up.
So I finally got somebody on the phone and it was an instructor that said, hey, I did not quit.
I did not ring the bell.
Just the medic, the hot, the doctor threw me in the ambulance and said I had to get out of
here.
I'm done.
He's like, is this quarrels?
like quarrels, don't worry about it, just heal and we'll deal with you, you know, just get back.
And he said that, I kind of felt a little relief.
Oh, my gosh, yeah.
When I come back, if I come back soon enough, I'll still be in to stay with my class.
So I passed out with the sleep and I woke up the next day and they came and picked me up.
I'm in a wheelchair, I couldn't walk.
My feet was so swollen, my knees, every, every joint in your body, ankles, knees, elbows,
wrists, face, neck, back, completely huge.
I mean, huge.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, because your kidneys aren't functioning.
It's like, yeah, oh, my God.
Yeah.
So I'm in a wheelchair rolling through the barracks.
My class is already secured from Hellweek.
So I'm rolling through, and I'm trying to push through,
and I'm looking in the doors,
and they put all the mattresses off the bunk beds on the floor
because you got to stay there all the night,
and then I don't want you falling off your bed.
And I'm looking at my guys, and they're just shaking,
just uncontrollably.
Just they're going through what.
I kind of went through the night before.
So we stayed there, you know, throughout the weekend, medical checks and all that stuff.
And then Monday comes and talk to the instructors.
And they said, because of what I did up to that point and how I carried myself up at that point, they allowed me to stay with my class.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Carried on.
There's grace right there.
Yeah.
It was big grace, big grace.
And then I eventually graduated as the honor grad of my class, you know, so I'd write.
is the honor man of my class that's amazing amazing congratulations that's awesome um
what did you learn in your time training that I feel like would be um your best advice for
future people who want to do the show like how do you how do you get how do you get through
those struggles how do you get over those fears how do you get past the devil on your
shoulder that's telling you you shouldn't be there.
Purpose.
Purpose is the number one thing I found when I went through the program.
I found who I am meant to be and not only the purpose of just being a seal, because being
a seal is one thing, but what does it really include, right?
Helping others.
That's how I summed it up.
So my purpose was really to give and be a servant to other people, whether I'm going
over and Iraq and San Syria to take out bad guys so families can walk in there.
their markets and feel safe with their children and not worry about something happening to
them. So I had my sense of purpose now, and I knew now that I can move forward and crush
life because I understood what I meant to do, which is serve other people. And if I kept that
service to others, whether I'm giving you my advice, where I'm giving you mentorship,
where I'm giving you physical fitness programs and training, helping you in some kind of way
to better your life, I felt this is me who I meant to be. And it was the hardest thing,
not the hardest thing.
It was the most inspiring thing for me to understanding my purpose.
And doing that program, I understood who I'm meant to be.
And certain else is really what it is.
And now that I'm out, you know, I still do the same thing.
You know, with my key notes, with my team building events, my leadership coaching events,
I do for corporations who want to know what it takes to be a leader, a true leader.
I understand this is me.
This is who I'm supposed to be.
And even on the show, I do all every bit of me.
so you can really have a true experience of what it's like to go through in hopes of you'll see that for yourself,
how you can push through something and maybe you'll find another purpose, right?
Because a lot of people come on the show, they are kind of past their MVP prime, like a Cam Newton.
You know, he's not the MVP in the NFL anymore, but he may is looking for another step or another season of his life.
And we're hoping that we're hoping people find that.
Not saying that he doesn't already have it, but we're helping.
No, totally.
So I think that's why we, I would say there's a little bit of that sprinkled into every single person who was there. I feel like for me, for sure, that was like a hundred percent. My kids are about to be empty nesters. And I don't know if I explain this in the mirror room with you, but my kids are going to be leaving me. And I've poured my life into my family life and kind of being their, you know, the household manager and their caretaker. And.
everything else. And I kind of wanted to get back to, like, who I am and, and find that purpose. So I feel
like I would, I would honestly say, I would guess 100% of us were there, that was a little bit of
our reason, you know? Yeah, I would say as a, yeah, I think that's got to be normal, isn't it?
Yes, yes. Right? For every season. Yeah. Yeah. I think everyone comes on. That's the number one thing
they're trying to find about who they are now.
Since we're changing our season of life, our profession.
Your kids are growing up now.
They're about to leave the home.
You know, this is about to be a new season for you,
a whole new life of you, your new season.
So we're trying to hope that we get people to understand
that this is the goal, the nature of the beast of it.
And some people will say they'll leave early
because they feel they achieved that at some point prior to people.
But we want to see people like just challenge themselves
and push themselves and just see, hey, man, you got more in you.
you got more in you you got more in you you can go for everyone we've talked to everyone we've
talked to has kind of echoed what trista said when she was first able to tell us where she you know
what she was doing um because it was it was the deadlock secret man i was trying to get it out of her
too uh but um it was really interesting to me because everybody has said this isn't a competition
show you're competing with yourself it's all what's going on in here and i mean you are made for this
cute like honestly god watching it at home i know i could never do the things that you have done in
your life uh just from a physical perspective and a mental perspective but it's like i relate to you
somehow and so and i feel like i do with with all the dss you know i think that was part of me being
emotional was like i was like oh my god these guys they get it they know you know you guys seem
to know what we all think of you as well like we hold you up here but you also want us to know
that you're human beings and you're like relating to everybody in the room and i mean it's it's remarkable
because I can imagine, you know, I've met Golden Tate and Cam Newton a few times in different
settings, but, you know, especially if you were a fan, let's say, of Cam or whatever, and now
you have to break them down.
That can't be an easy role to be in either, I wouldn't imagine.
No, no, no, no.
And I've known Cam, not known a person, but, you know, I've watched him when he came
in the league as a rookie, you know, so I just fan of his, Golden Tate, you know, his team
put my team out of the playoffs many times when he played.
Oh, no.
This team put me out of the wall.
And I was like, I couldn't stand to see Hawks for years.
And I was like, yeah.
And he was on that team.
He was playing.
He was doing the team.
So, no, you're right.
And it's very hard.
And that is the thing.
What you said was we want people who still see us as we are just normal human beings as well.
You know, we had the same challenges to become who we are.
We had to identify.
We can be further.
We can be better.
And the number one thing, you got to find your purpose.
You got to be inspired by something.
first, though, you know, to be willing to walk through that fire. You got to be inspired.
I was inspired by my grandmother. I wanted to make my proud of me. So when I want to do the Navy
Seal, graduating first black man that graduated top of this class in any Navy Seal training
pipeline, to get that, to achieve that. For me, it was like, I got to get this for my grandmother.
So I can show her a victim of the circumstance, right? I want to be a catalyst for others who struggle
in life as a child who didn't have the best growing, you know, the best, you know, raising.
There's a word for you, you know, I'm trying to say.
Yeah.
Childhood.
Yeah. Upringing. Yeah.
Upring. And you can be more if you wanted, but you've got to be inspired about something.
And then you'll find your purpose as you're working through that inspiration and you'll find
it and you'll become everything that you need to be so you can help others do the same thing.
And that's what I want to do. I want to help others be the same thing. Do the same thing.
Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it. I can listen to you talk all day.
Can we do that three hours of this podcast?
I got a question for you, Q.
So I'll let you off the hook for this season that's airing right now.
But with the previous seasons, has there been someone that stands out to you as someone who you're just like, okay, this person, for season two and three, I mean, this person went next level.
This person went above and beyond, you know, and like they stood out more than you even like on day one, I'm sure we're all guilty of.
I even said at Trist, the day one, I'm like, here's who's going to end up at the end here.
You know, y'all, I'm sure you guys probably go through.
was there someone that you were like, okay, this person went above and beyond more than I
could possibly have imagined from the couple seasons that you've been on so far.
And you don't have to count this one if you don't want to.
On C, yeah, I can't really say for this one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We don't want to give something away.
Right.
Totally.
But season two for me, it was Jojo Siwa.
Jojo Siwa.
Oh, yeah?
Yes.
I mean, when she was freaking carrying.
Was it carrying Tom Sandoval or Nick or yes.
I was like, what the hell?
She's carrying a man.
Wow.
Her physical strength and endurance was pretty impressive.
For her age, you know, she never really trained for something like this.
When we found out later, I mean, she did some training with nothing on this level.
And coming from a chapter star to this, because she was also trying to find more of her purpose, right?
you know, she's transitioning from being the child face to now an adult face and how to make
transition and what I really want to do, who I want to be, and all that kind of stuff.
So I think Jojo Siwa was the most impressive.
And I want to say to the other DS as well, she was the one that everyone's like, I'll be down.
Yeah.
No kidding.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
The U.S. Open is here.
And on my podcast, good game with Sarah Spain.
I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history.
The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure.
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The U.S. Open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event.
I mean, listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive.
For all tennis fans, whether you play tennis or not?
Tennis is full of compelling stories of late.
Have you heard about icon Venus Williams' recent wild card bids?
Or the young Canadian, Victoria Mboko, making a name for herself?
How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form?
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Hi, my name is Enya Eumanzor.
And I'm Drew Phillips.
And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
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Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.
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Think you could do it?
It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control.
And they're saying like, okay, pull this, do this, pull that, turn this.
It's just, I can do my eyes close.
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Okay. So I reached out to my season of celebrity recruits or whatever you want to call us.
And I said, I'm not going to reach out to Instagram. I actually want to know if you guys have any
questions for Q because I'm talking to him today. So I have a couple of questions from the staff
or no, from the recruits. And before I get there, one last thing from me. And then we'll end with
these questions unless you have something else, Bob. But okay, so they cast you, you know, to be
part of the DS. Did they know about your laugh before they casted you? Because you guys, if I
I don't know that anyone watching this season knows that his laugh, and I want you to do it for us.
Like, you have to give us a little example.
But when he would laugh, it was like, literally you're hearing, sorry, the devil.
Like, when he laughs for you, Bob, you're going to be like, yep, that's evil.
I'm sorry, Q, but it's true.
So can you, okay, so first, can you laugh for us, show us, give me a little.
little like memory. I'm going to, you know, close my eyes and just listen. And we got to say
something funny. We got to get in there. And then, and then tell me if they knew about it before or if
they, how that all transpired and how the laugh like developed, if you will. How the laugh transpired.
Really, I developed it at the duty. Okay. I developed while I was an active duty.
When we would do crazy stuff in our training in the SEAL teams, we're crazy.
I'm not going to lie, you've got to be crazy to do this job in some kind of way.
So you will find near death, near death experiences like funny.
And you got to like, but I made the laugh evil.
And then we had these little times where everybody would be doing these little laughs
and we'd laugh at each other.
And then we'd just be just laughing for no reason after everything.
I love it.
It's crazy stuff that we would do together in a unit, that a small little group.
So that's how the laugh kind of created itself
And then I started doing it
It's almost like my normal laugh now
Everyone says it's evil
I mean it doesn't sound
Is this the laugh?
He's not doing it like as much as he did
Oh you have to do it just so Bob can hear it
So if they don't show it on this season
Everyone will know what I'm talking about
That I'm not crazy
Come on Q
put yourself in that place, you know, when we're standing on parade and you're like saying,
you're going to get punished.
Like, come on, act like me and Bob are in the parade.
On parade.
Ready?
Let me get it.
Let me get my mind going.
And it comes out as an instructor, it really, like, it's perfect when it comes out
as my, when I'm being an instructor.
So I'm like, I'll say something to somebody.
So I'd be like, for you or Bob, I'd be like, okay, so you think you guys are going to chill through this program?
Yes, sir.
Sir, yes, sir.
Wait, listen.
You have to listen to his laugh, Bob.
That's how I'll be like.
He's like, it's like, wait, listen.
It's pretty good.
I'll say.
I'd be like, okay, all right.
So you think you guys owe me later for this.
You guys lulligued throughout this course.
You guys didn't respect the course.
You guys are going to owe me, and you guys are going to pay for this later.
Trust me, you ain't going to like at the end of it.
Like, literally, can you see, like, he has, like, horns coming out of his head.
I'm taking my armband off right now.
You're giving you the ebleness of what's coming to you.
I'm going to think of the evilness that's going to come.
It's just like you're stirring the cauldron.
You're like, here it comes.
Yep, exactly right.
Stir in the cauldron.
Oh my gosh. Okay. So I got this question from Marion. And all of us were thinking it. So I'm sure.
But, and you, hopefully you'll laugh at this and the way, you know, I feel like you have a pretty good sense of humor.
I feel like all the DS have a pretty good sense of humor, which is, which I would love to know, like, be on a fly on the wall and see what you guys actually talk about after the show.
But, okay, so this is Marion's question.
Does he feel guilty, honestly, afterwards when swimming while perched on a swim noodle in the pool challenge, while some were nearly drowning while splashing water on our faces?
See, somebody would ask me that same question in the purpose of that.
He's that hysterical?
Oh, my gosh.
He was cheating!
Yeah, he was cheating.
I was like, I got it.
I need one, I need the noodle.
I might have to pass it off to somebody else if y'all are really jolly.
So that's what I'm like, sitting on the only one.
So the purpose of the noodle was so you can save some people.
No, I'm just kidding.
Partly, partly so I can save some people.
I need to be well rested.
I need to be well rest.
Yes, yes.
If it need me, then I'll pass it off.
But for the most part, it's for my comfort.
he's already gone through this
I know
I'll give you an example
with a beehive and buzz
Beehive and Buzz
we're in this ginormous pool
and your class is pretty still big
you got about 100 people
still in your class
I can't remember
if we put all 100 in there
or it was like 50
and they got one instructor
in the center on a on a noodle
and you got like four
five instructors swimming around
smashing everybody together
and that's
That's a big group of us.
And it creates panic.
It creates that fear.
It creates that fear of death, right?
Because you're choking you.
You don't know if you're going to survive.
People panic like crazy.
So that's a scenario of what it's really like.
It's no joke.
The beehive is no joke at all.
No.
Good question.
Yeah.
I loved that question.
I was like, Marion, you're on it.
And during Beehive in your training, did they have scuba divers, like underneath in case people drown?
Because they did for us.
No.
No. No, I don't recall that at all.
No.
Yeah.
I think we did.
No.
Yeah.
I mean, that's.
The swimmers, the other instructors, that's why we had more instructors swimming around.
Like, when we did it for us, it was just Rudy.
And then you had Billy and Foxy on the top because they can really see it.
Their idea, not their idea.
They're also job for Billy.
and Foxy was to identify
who was really struggling and then get Rudy
to go over it and try to help them.
Oh, yeah, because Rudy was in the water.
True, right.
Okay, and then Golden asked,
ask him who voted him to be the hammer
and the punisher.
It's a little bit too.
The other, the DS did.
They said, they did.
They did.
They said, based off, because I'm the seal, right?
The seal is like a big title, everyone knows.
And I was like, oh, yeah, you know, this is my, this is my thing, right?
I'm all, this is my second nature, my second home.
I'm all, I'm comfortable here.
So I love that part of it.
So this is, this is probably who I'm going to be from now on.
That's awesome.
Well, and that leads me to my next question, which is, and maybe we'll end on this unless
you have anything, Bob.
But Christy asked, ask him after being as accomplished as he is,
first Black Buds graduate to graduate top of his class. What goals do you have for your future?
Good serious question. Good serious question. Christy. There's a lot that I want to be an
accomplished. We kind of talked a little bit about it, right? I want to, as I said, I want to be a beast
until the day I die, not just physically. I want to impact millions of lives through my keynotes,
through my book that I'm writing. And that book is called Why Not Me? The reason I call
call me so it's like when you grab my book and you read the title of it it's going to make you
ask yourself already why not me why not you be you know on the bachelorette you know why not you
be the navy seal uh the doctor or the pilot or whatever top you know profession that it is that you
want to be because i think everyone has the ability to get there now everyone comes from a different
background so it's going to be a little harder for those some than others right but yeah people to
understand and know that you have the ability to change your circumstance is the key thing
that I really want to push. I want to be the lead dog on that thing. And I hope to God, right?
I pray a lot that I can be that catalyst to get the Navy Seaside of me, right? Yeah, that was one
accolade of my life. Then graduate top of my class. But what did I do after that? I got my bachelor's
degree, right? I started learning how to do public speaking. I've been a personally trainer. So all these
things lead in to go from, the steel teams taught me many things about how I can achieve these
things. But now I got to take that with it at the same time. So my life is really geared to that
service thing that I want to be able to send. I served millions of people. So when I'm
gone on this earth, my time is done. I really hope to have impacted millions of people. That's my
goal. That's amazing. I think you're doing it every week right now. I'll tell you that. I know.
I was just going to say you're impacting people like me who never ever.
ever, ever would have thought that they would be part of this show.
I mean, when they first asked me, I was like, hell, no.
Don't you want my husband?
And then, you know, and then thought more about it and thought that I could actually
really challenge myself and get back to who I was before my family, you know,
not taking away from that because it really is my greatest joy in my life.
but I just wanted to challenge myself and make my kids proud, make my husband proud,
make myself proud.
And so you definitely affected one in a positive way, even though you were yelling like crazy
at me when I was running to the Jeep.
In that devilish laugh.
Yeah, in that laugh.
But you weren't saying anything that I wasn't already saying in my head, obviously.
I think that that's what a lot of us are.
going through, you know, you're saying exactly what we're thinking. And when you said it,
I was like, I kind of want to prove him wrong. You know, he's saying all these things.
Yeah. That's the key, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. That's what we want to see. That's the nature of that
whole thing. We want to see if you want to hear me, you might get pissed off and you ain't going
like me or whatever. But I call you to say, you know what, I'm going to prove this dude. Forget him,
FQ, I'm going to push off. I'm going to make it to this. That's all.
all we're going to look at the board. That's really what we want. Yeah. That's awesome.
Well, thank you for letting me be part of it. Thank for being, thanks for being part of it.
Now you've got Bob wanting to sign up for the show. Oh, yeah. Well, I didn't say that. I didn't say that,
but I will tell you. I listen to you talk. It's like listen to Dan Campbell, man. My Detroit Lions coach,
I want to run through a brick wall for the guy. So yeah, I get fired up by this kind of stuff. And I was such a,
I was very proud of my friend Trista, and, you know, we had a chance to interview a couple
other people from the show, and it's been one of those things where I was, like, so proud of her.
I got emotional watching it, you know, I really did, and it's, and I think it's a lot of those
factors coming into play, but it's definitely one of those things where you're just watching
people go through a fraction of what I know you've gone through to get where you've been.
And, you know, they always say, you know, you can't let the dog out in the backyard if you
don't have a backyard, and we got to thank our servicemen and women for that every day.
So, you know, thank you for that and thank you for showing us a little bit, a little taste of, you know, what that is because I can, I magnify it in my head about a billion times and know what it really is. So it's crazy.
Appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thanks a lot with that bomb. And that's really what we want to do, man. And when you say you're coach from Detroit, I like that guy. I do. I like that. He has, he has the mindset of what we're talking about all the time. And, you know, just to be honest with you, now I don't even like you.
because I got to play you next week.
Yeah.
Oh, are you on threat?
You're a commander.
Yes, sir.
Sure.
So now me and you are going to, like, I'm going to get your number after this.
Yeah.
We can be buddies after.
We'll be buddies after, but we aren't going to be buddies that day.
I can tell you that right now.
But no, I think after the game, we'll be cool.
There you go.
Here you go.
I'm a big fan of your team, too, and I love your coach, man.
He's, I like that whole mindset, too.
He's kind of tapped into that.
And, you know, I think.
both those guys, those guys should be
a candidate for coach of the year for sure
so. Wait, I'm sorry, back up.
Who is your team queue?
North Carolina?
No, not command. Oh, the commanders.
Got it. Because Ryan used to play
for the Panthers.
Oh, did it? Oh, I didn't know that.
Didn't he play for the Ravens too?
I thought he played for the Ravens as well.
I think he got drafted by the Ravens
and then got traded
to the Panthers.
And then he played for
seconds. So I will say this. So about her husband real quick, and I love this. When we were both
on The Bachelorette vying for Trista's love, she chose the right guy, I promise you. They were making
a big deal out of me having played college football. I played Michigan State and they're like,
you know, oh, well, Bob played college. And the producers, and Ryan was like my bunk mate, you know,
and so I had like talked to him a little bit about stuff. And I'm like, holy, and I was getting so
angry because it was like in every conversation they tried to make me talk about it. I'm like,
I'm not talking about it. I was a backup quarterback. This dude, this dude played for the Baltimore
Ravens. Like I was like, I was losing my mind over it because no one was talking about. He was
Ryan the firefighter. I'm like, no, he's not. Oh my God. Yeah. He's not the firefighter.
He's not just a firefighter, damn it. Yeah. Oh, God. I got myself worked up more than once because
I just adore the guy. But yeah, it's, uh, it's really great.
It's been really great talk with you.
Thank you for giving us your time and for being on the show with us.
And thanks for giving us such great television to watch, too, because I've been loving the show and very excited for this week's episode.
And, man, it's just been a, it's been a, this whole thing has been like an unbelievable mind-blown experience when I found out Tristan was on there.
And then to see her kicking ass made me really happy.
Hey, I appreciate.
Thank you both for having me on here.
I appreciate it and look to do more.
You know, I'm trying to get further out there.
So hopefully, you know, I'll get,
we have opportunities to continue to speak this kind of word to people.
So I enjoy it.
I'm sure you will.
I'm sure you will.
Awesome. Awesome, girl.
You did a great time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
We appreciate your time.
And, you know, keep watching Special Forces World's Toughest Test on Fox on Wednesdays.
And then it will stream on Hulu the next day.
Thanks, everybody for listening.
Thank you, everybody. Thanks, Kew. Thanks a lot. Thank you.
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