The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Rocky Mountain High with Sarah Herron

Episode Date: October 24, 2022

Sarah Herron from Sean Lowe’s season is hanging with Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter for an OG’s look at Bachelor in Paradise! Sarah drops some wild facts about HOW involved the producers might be wi...th the romances on the beach   We get an update on her pregnancy, and Sarah and Bob dive deep into the Colorado conspiracy of Bachelor Nation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:49 How doing it? Bob Guinea's doing good. How you doing? I feel like I sound like Joey, Joey from friends. Bob Gayne's doing good. How you doing? How are you doing? Sarah, Heron.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Sarah! Oh my gosh. How are you guys? Hi. We are great. Welcome to Almost Famous, the OGs. The OGs. And you're one of them because hello, first season of Bachelor in Paradise.
Starting point is 00:03:14 And then, you know, a couple other shows, you know, thrown in there. I know, I know. It's like wild. Wild! So happy to see both of you. Well, we're happy to see you too. Before we get to talk and shop, I am so happy for you and Dylan. Yes, me too.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Congratulations. I saw the announcement. I was so fired up for you. Couldn't happen to a nicer person. Oh, thank you. So good. How are you feeling? I'm feeling like every day is a little different.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So I'm very, I'm in the first trimester still. And like some days I feel really good and I can, I'm like normal. And then the next day I'm so tired and so nauseous, it's like asking me to take a shower is too much. Totally. Yeah. So otherwise I feel great. And it's also just been difficult because I broke my knee. And so that's like I literally broke my knee the day I found out I was pregnant.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And so it's been just like a weird circumstance of like being on bed rest and unable to walk. Are you getting surgery for your knee? No, fortunately, I don't need surgery. I broke the patella walking the dog. Ow. And yeah, and so it just has to like heal on its own, which is I would rather avoid surgery if possible. But like letting a bone heal like naturally on its own can take longer sometimes.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. Well, you've got nine months. No. I know, nine months. I know. Something like that. Yeah, that thing better be fixed by then. because, you know, good luck sitting still once that happens.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yeah, seriously. I know. That's brutal. Was it like an aggressive hike or something? Like, how did you hurt your name? I was walking my dog and I just like, I mean, it's like not interesting, but I just essentially tripped. I got kind of tangled up around my dog's leash, tripped and fell on a curb and just like smack in my knee into the side of the curb. And it's always those like unassuming innocent moments when you're like not really.
Starting point is 00:05:21 paying attention and you just eat. Yeah. Okay, so does the doctor say that you feel any differently if as compared to like how I would, how I was feeling when I was pregnant? Because it was an embryo transfer. Is there anything different? No, it's just. No.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's, yeah, it's pretty much like, the only difference is when the embryo was transferred in, it was already a five-day embryo. So, like, when you do IVF, you kind of have, like, a five-day advantage. Got it. In just learning about the pregnancy earlier than the two-week wait. True story. Normally weight, yeah. And do they put you on high risk?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Are you because, I mean, obviously you're on high risk because you're on bed rest. But you're considered high risk, correct? Yeah, you're treated a little bit more, like, there's just more attention on your care in terms of, like, wanting to be really thorough with all the prenatal testing. But then additionally, a lot of women who've experienced multiple pregnancy loss, recurring pregnancy loss, will be put on a medication called Lovenox, which is a blood thinner. And that's kind of just becoming more and more common routine. And so I'm on the blood thinner.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And if you're on this blood thinner, you then are high risk pregnancy. because in the event that, like, you needed to have an emergency delivery or C-section or something, they need to be able to, like, manage. Got it. Okay. You know, I know we're here to talk about Bachelor in Paradise, but I just had to get the scoop about the baby boy. I'm so excited. So, just so happy.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Bob, here's an interesting little tidbit. I was the person to take the very first picture of Sarah and Dylan. Really? Yes, you were. were that's amazing i was it was on your phone no was it on your phone yeah i was we were doing an interview um he was the photographer um while the videographer at this shoot for she lift the organization that she started and i was there in aspen and i took a picture of them because they were just so cute that's awesome it's true it's true i'm so glad you remember that she's like cupid she takes a picture of it
Starting point is 00:07:42 it's good to go. Maybe that should be my thing. I'm just going to go around taking pictures of people and, you know, it'll stand. I feel like my wife kind of does that. My wife will be like, oh, hey, this is Debbie and this is Jim. And then if they end up together, she's like, I did that. That was me. She's responsible.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I'm like, no, you introduce them. See, but that's why like, Tris is just saying she just took the picture. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, sprinkled a little of her fairy godmother dust on there, and there you go. No, it's true. What in the hell? They just saw you. Bob goes, what in the hell?
Starting point is 00:08:19 You have to at least come say hi now. Ryan just went on a bike ride and he was, I do my podcast in my bedroom and he just walked in the bedroom. Shirtless. Gotta be honest, pretty good optics for the show. I think if we were smart, we'd cut and paste that as our lead on Twitter. Yeah, that's what the, that's the footage in there. wants to see. Yeah, if we want to lose some viewers, I'll reenact that exact scene right there and we'll just be done. Jell will go off the air. Oh my gosh. That's really funny, babe. They're saying,
Starting point is 00:08:52 because he can't hear me or us. They're saying that they're just going to copy and paste that picture for, you know, social feed. Yeah, you're going to be cut and splice. I'm going to put my head on Ryan's body. And I'll be like, you know what? We'll do the vocals right now. Trista, hey, it's me, Bob. I just showed up in your room to do the podcast. It's so weird. And that's, that'll the scene we use right there. I love it. Okay. I'm so glad you guys are doing this. You guys are so perfect. Oh, thank you. We have a lot of fun. We do have a good time. And we're so, I mean, I'm so excited you're on. I mean, this is, Sarah, this is big. I mean, I get it. We are supposed to talk about Bachelor in Paradise. But I think this is bigger than all of it, right? I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:33 I love when new friends get into the Bachelors with Kids segment of our lives. So it's excited. Thank you. And I mean, like, I'm just so excited to talk to both of you guys. I can't believe I've known you for so long. I know. Ten years now officially. So, isn't that crazy? I know longer for you guys, but like, I'm like, thanks for making me feel old. I'm just kidding. I feel old every day, so you're not doing anything to do. You know, yeah, anytime anyone asked me about to show me, like, oh my God, when was that? And I'm like, 20 years ago. No, that's impossible. Like, oh, yeah, no, it was. trust me, and I feel it every day. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Okay, so I would love to get your ideas on this season of Bachelor in Paradise, and one thing in particular stood out to me, and I was like, perfect. We're going to talk to Sarah. She's been through it a couple times. She'll know the answer to this question. So, Serene, did you watch the last episode? Yeah. Okay, so, yeah, I figured, but I just want to make sure.
Starting point is 00:10:38 You can say hi as you're leaving. He has a shirt on now. Hi, buddy. He said bye, buddy. Okay, anyway. So, Serene is on the beach, like they're kind of talking in a group, and Teddy is in the conversation with Andrew. And, you know, she decides to leave. Well, you know, amidst this, like with all of this going on,
Starting point is 00:11:03 Serene is like, I haven't gotten a chance to talk to her yet. And I'm thinking to myself, why don't you just go talk to her? So do the producers, this is kind of like, you know, going behind the curtain a little bit. Yeah. Do the producers say, like, if you're in a group and something like that is happening, do they say, no, you can't talk to her yet because she's doing an interview or no, like, we'll get you to have a conversation with her soon. But is that guided by the producers? Yes and no. like they're not so strict that they're like no you can't talk to her right now but they are like ushering
Starting point is 00:11:40 movements pretty quickly so same way as on the bachelor like in the mansion or when you're traveling it's like they do it's like if you make a decision you want to leave they are kind of like okay well then let's do this like wheels are in motion and they so i don't think they were necessarily trying to keep them separate and we did see teddy say i don't want to go down and say goodbye she probably didn't want to like make a big scene about it and then it was kind of like before she knew it she was just out of there and didn't have a chance to talk to anyone because i don't think people were go ahead go ahead i don't think producers were like intentionally trying to keep her from talking to serene but i do i feel bad that serene like didn't get a heads up and didn't get to say bye to her
Starting point is 00:12:23 i know well and i felt like okay rodney comes in he's got the date card and you see teddy and Andrew go over and sit down and have their conversation at this point it's light out right yeah so they're outside it's light out and then they have their conversation the sun is setting while Andrew is still sitting out there teddy had left rodney of course no one's talking about rodney anymore and his date cards like what happened to his date and then and then once teddy is like serene is searching for teddy it is totally pitch black and so I was like what transatlantic inspired. Like I would love to know kind of what happened in that instance. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but I just thought it was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. My guess is that, you know, she had the conversation with Rodney fairly close to like sun going down. And then you know how it is. It's just like hours go by and someone would be gone doing interviews and you don't really think much about it. And then all of a sudden you're like, it's midnight. Where's Teddy? So I think it's like everything moves so like takes so long. in the bachelor world. Yeah, true. It does. Honestly, it's almost like one of those things where you have like three things that you
Starting point is 00:13:37 want to do in your head. Like, I want to go talk to him. I want to finish this up. I want to say goodbye to my friend. And by the time you've done, you know, waiting on audio for half an hour. Now it's like you finally get out of that chair and it's like, oh, everything's, you know, now it's changed. Everything is all transformed.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Yeah. Yeah. And you guys remember like when you, or at least when I was sent home, it was in the middle of a date and it was like there's there really was no time it's just like you're being sent home like we've already packed your bags for you and that was like just i wouldn't know that feeling because she never got sent home yes i did sarah i did and i know exactly what you're talking about neither of you guys got sent home in like an unexpected turn of events like no i'm just teasing for it
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Starting point is 00:18:54 Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trista, I mean, you were on the first season. So, I mean, one thing that, like, what Sarah's talking about, like, when I was let go from Trista's season, I remember it was sort of like one of those things. All of a sudden you're, I mean, of course, I assumed I was staying. And when I, you know, when I didn't and I was, but, you know, you're like, you walk out and you sit down in the car. and it's like, oh my God. And then it's almost like, now they're on you, right? Now it's like fresh nude, here they come.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And I'm sure that was like that, especially for you, Trista, because you were expecting a proposal that night, right? Oh, 100%. And then you don't get closure. That's why, you know, I've talked about it in the past that I was like, I need to talk to Alex. Like, what is, I don't feel any closure. This feels really strange that I thought I was going to get engaged
Starting point is 00:19:49 and now he's sending me home. So, yeah, I mean, it definitely happens. really quickly, and I think they have their process of doing things. I just thought it was interesting and didn't know if bachelor... Because I always felt like Bachelor in Paradise was much more, like, relaxed in terms of... I thought so, too. You know what I mean? Like, Bachelor and Bachelorette, you have your dates, right?
Starting point is 00:20:14 So, either you're at the house and you're hanging out or you're on this date. So it's very structured and regimented, and Bachelor in Paradise, I just feel like everyone lives there and you just hang out and then they pull people, of course, for interviews and some people have dates. But I guess this kind of opened my eyes to showing that I feel like it's a little more like Bachelor or Bachelorette than I thought. Yeah, it is. It is. I mean, you're right. It's fluid and it's very relaxed, but still, like, people are being pulled for interviews all day long. And so it's not like the whole group is there at one time. It's like you never really have eyes on all people throughout the whole day totally yeah yeah right so how does dylan feel
Starting point is 00:20:59 about the whole experience like do you guys watch the show together does he hate it or what um he he hates it and he has never watched any of my seasons he's never watched um my clips nothing he's never even like googled clips but he he did watch like Ari's season with me and was like trying to give it a shot and everyone's all step in from the other room and see that I'm watching Paradise, but he doesn't, he's so, like, I don't know, he just doesn't get it. He doesn't understand. He's not one of us. So he's not like, I, like, I am with the real housewives.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Like, my wife will be like, you know, I'm going to watch Real Housewives and I'm like, why do you watch that garbage? And then I'll be like, I'll be walking by and I'll be like, wait a minute. What did Durinda just say? Like, I somehow, I absorb it all and I love it. And I'm like, wait a minute. Is Andy going to have them on and watch what happens live? So I, uh, you know, that's how I.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I am with shows I hate, so maybe, you know, does he know more than he lets on? He definitely does. Like, he knows who, like, key players are and, you know, he keeps up with, like, Jesse Palmer. Like, he's very interested in, like, oh, there's a new host. So it's like he knows enough to engage, but he won't, admittedly, like, sit down and watch it. Sometimes I feel like we guys have to act like that about these types of shows so that we can kind of keep guys. I like how you said, we guys. Us guys.
Starting point is 00:22:19 My boy Dylan and I Capital D and I We're like that You know We're just like we don't want to act Like we watch this stuff But we do Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:28 Oh my gosh Dylan's my new best friend already Yeah You guys would like Yeah you'd like each other I approve of that friendship Awesome Thank you
Starting point is 00:22:38 Okay so tell us about life Life in Colorado Like what's been going on Since you've been on the shows Hold on hold on Let me point out one more thing Hold on One more Coloridian
Starting point is 00:22:49 that's right we were talking to lace last week um oh yeah you know you know lace weren't you on the same season or one of them yeah we were in season three together yeah so uh we were we were just talking we were we were talking about do we call it coloradoans or coloradoians or coloradians or i say coloradans coloradins okay so she takes out oh yeah i didn't know i i really i need to ask my husband because he's the native but he is the native there's just so many people from season after season after season from our shows in that state of Colorado. I think
Starting point is 00:23:24 it's fantastic. Well, I'm a native also, but like true Colorado Coloradans, true Colorado natives, I mean, we pronounce Creek, is pronounced Crick. Yeah. Sorry. There's just like true, true
Starting point is 00:23:40 Colorans say things with a little bit of a twang. It's like we have our own kind of accent here i don't know what it is but yeah michiganders have it too michigan people we all have it too michiganders that's what you call yes we're all like we all have that kind of naisly like well you know i remember doing some show and i said the word dollar and i spent about 12 hours of my next day going back and punching the word dollar to say
Starting point is 00:24:09 dollar how do they say the thing when you go shopping and they put your things in a carrier and a cart. A cart? No, a B-A-G. Oh, a bag. Yeah. Big. A bag. I say bag. Yeah. I always think it's funny when people say milk or milk. Oh, no, not milk. You say milk, Sarah? I say no, don't say milk. Don't say milk. Don't say milk. Don't say milk. No, not milk. You want to throw up. I mean, same. Same.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Okay. So how is life in Colorado? Tell us what you've been up to since you've been up to. been on the show. And it's been a while. Yeah, life is great in Colorado. I've been out here for almost, I think, six years now. Met my now fiancee, Dylan Brown, and we are just starting our life together. We're expecting our first baby. We've been doing IVF for a little over a year and a half. And, you know, we're just adventuring tons. We go out, we're like hike, we ski, we raft and we're going to have a very adventurous little family in our future. Yes, you are. You're near Aspen, right? Like, you know, for me, whenever I tell people where I am, I always say I'm in veil, but I'm not in veil proper. So I'm sure it's the same for you. Yes. Yes,
Starting point is 00:25:32 we're in Carbondale, which is soon to be the new Aspen because Aspen is just getting so overrun and so expensive that people are moving to our town. It's the same as ours. I'm sure Carbondale will actually be like Westvale. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Because people can't, I was just having this conversation with people. You can't afford a place.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So if your kids want to move back here after they're gone, like they're not going to be able to live here because it's so freaking expensive. No. Yeah. We rent. I mean, we're renters. We're trying to buy. We can't get into the market.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's so impossible. That's the way it was when I lived in Seattle. I got so lucky in Seattle, but I also had to move. 40 miles east of Seattle to actually buy something. Well, luckily, Dylan's job, like, is all over planet Earth, right? Right. So he can just go wherever you guys can travel and not have to necessarily be in one spot. So he's still, is he still a professional photographer, videographer? He is, but he's also starting, he has a startup electric motorcycle company called Tara Bikes.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And so that's that's like our family's big push right now. So really exciting and, you know, EV are the way of the future. And so this is like a very adventurous. It's kind of like a, I don't want to call it a dirt bike. It's not an electric dirt bike. It's definitely more of an electric motorcycle, but it's geared towards adventurous types and it can go off-road and it's on-road capable as well. So, oh my gosh. Hey, if you need anybody to plug the product, I'm sure Ryan would.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I was just thinking, yeah. I will fly out and do that with Ryan. I'll sit on one and then we'll let Ryan do all the stunts. And then he'll come back around and I'll be like, here, now put my helmet on. And we'll let him do it. So it looks like I'm doing the stunts. Yeah, that would be awesome. And I'll just be sitting up there with a vodka and soda.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I'll be like, no, Max has been asking. I know you said it's not a dirt bike but he has been asking for a dirt bike for so long and I'm like no no no no he's a little stud he's got his dad's you can see it in him he's got that adventurous spirit
Starting point is 00:27:52 yeah they love and actually Blake'sley too Blakesley Ryan calls her his little adventure buddy it's really cool that's awesome they love their adventures Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
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Starting point is 00:32:39 Okay, so back to Baby Boy. Do you, you're probably not going to tell us, but do you have a name picked out already? Well, we do, but, like, I want to stay open and, like, I was really kind of hoping to play the baby game, baby name game a lot longer. But Dylan just, like, fell in love with a name. Oh, he did. Yeah. And this sounds kind of like heady and new age. But we went to the sound healing.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't know if you've ever been to a sound healing. Like the bulls, sound bowls. But the bulls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this one turned out to be like very extreme with huge gongs. And like the man who was leading it, he was like, you know, energy is going to move through you. And it's going to be really intense. And the gongs are like, it's, it's.
Starting point is 00:33:29 can be painful but don't worry that no damage is being caused like stick it out and we're like what the hell did we sign up for anyway it ended up being this whole like spiritual meditation trip and dylan claims that when he was like in it he was meditating and he was talking to our future baby and he addressed the baby by this name i don't know if i'm supposed to say it i don't know baby etiquette got it anyway i think we all know it's bobby brown obviously so let's I think I'd be really cute, especially for a little girl. But so he addressed the baby by this name. And now he is like, I talk to the baby.
Starting point is 00:34:10 This is his name. This is what he said he wants his name to be. And I'm like, that's really sweet. Doesn't matter how you get there. I love that you guys have a great story about it. And I think that's really sweet. We named you during a very scary, spiritual gong ceremony. chose your own name.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Do you have pictures from it? No. Oh, bummer. It's okay. It's still a memory. The gonger. The gonger. I love it.
Starting point is 00:34:38 You can nickname him the gonger. Little gonger. Oh, my gosh. You know, I love that, though, because my son, we, so because he's already, I can tell you, my son's name is Grayson, but I actually loved that name because we lived on this street that had a gray barn at the end of our street. Yeah. And we would go buy it, and I'd always say, there's the gray barn.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And I would always say that. And so I'd be like, you know, Gray Bar and Guinea, that's going to be his name. And I was like, actually, Grayson is a cool name. Aww. And then I googled it. I've never heard that story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Then I Googled it. And, you know, Grayson means old man with gray hair's kid. And I was like, this is perfect. This is a point name for my child. Old man with gray hair's kid. It really does. It means gray hair son or something like that. It does?
Starting point is 00:35:23 It's something like that. Oh, my gosh. Man with gray hair's son or something. So you basically. I don't have any grays yet, but I'm sure they're coming. Oh, they're coming. Sorry, when you've got two little ones, they're coming. I can feel them coming every day.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Like, I'm always like, really? I still even have any of this left with my way my son. You do. You have good hair. I know, it's crazy. Thanks, guys. Yeah, of course. You know, just here to lift you up, Bob Kinney.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Oh, thank you. And I love you for it. Honestly, God, even if I wasn't on this show, I tune in and be like, hey, guys, it's me. Can you give one compliment today? Okay, Sarah. So last question, do you have any regrets? Since Dylan doesn't watch the show,
Starting point is 00:36:08 do you have any regrets from your times on the show? Or do you, because I'll interject what I feel afterwards, but how do you feel? Any regrets? I don't have any regrets. I think the only thing when I watch back on these seasons is like the same way you guys maybe, feel when you watch back on your old seasons is like sometimes they like cringe a little bit like oh god
Starting point is 00:36:34 why did you say that totally but that's it i don't have any regrets well awesome i i and i ask that hoping that that's your answer um because i wouldn't want that for anybody to have regrets but i kind of feel like every you know it's super cliche but it's like that unbroken road you know like you all of these places or the broken road all of these places led you to Dylan because I don't know that would you have started she left would you have been doing the thing in aspen would you have met him there like same thing with Ryan I don't I don't I mean obviously I don't regret it but um but yeah yeah I you're exactly right I do believe that all of it led me to where I am today and and still I'm like grateful that that 10 year uh history is
Starting point is 00:37:24 still like here I am talking to you guys today so it's pretty amazing Love it. And your baby will be able to see you on a computer screen, not TV. Maybe. I know. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I know. I know. I don't know if I want. I'm sure he'll like look it up. Oh yeah. When they get to be like my kids age 13 and 15, you can't avoid it. You just can't. I mean, there's a thing called Google and they just get on. Google and you know they they they googled their own name because they want to know at what point did you explain to them mommy was on a show like how did that happen you know i want to know this story too i i don't remember like the exact time but i do know that over the years obviously um they whenever they're with us when we traveled or whatever people would ask for photos and you know oh can we take a picture and i think they
Starting point is 00:38:28 They were like, yeah, sure. Why do you want to take a picture with my mom and dad? Like, that's weird. And then the show would come. And I think before the show came one time, maybe that's when we talked about it, because they came for like a little update. Oh, I do have to say something.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I think it's really interesting. I'm going to call out the producers right now. I thought about texting Fleiss and being like, dude. Okay, so Jared and Ashley I were brought back to Bachelor in Paradise because, you know, their love story was successful. And, you know, they're there to, like, you know, have a little time away from baby and to give these guys' advice. And I'm like, when have ever I've been asked,
Starting point is 00:39:16 Ryan and I have never been asked by producers to come back and talk about our successful relationship and hang out with The Bacheloretts or whatever. I'm like, hello, producers. That's shocking to me that you've never been invited back. Yeah. I was kind of like, oh, it just brought it to the surface for me when Ashley and I and Jared were saying that. And I love that Ashley I and Jared are there and love seeing them because their relationship is so inspirational for the people who are there especially.
Starting point is 00:39:47 But anyway, so we were showing a, you know, like here, the producers were coming to do a little update, if you will. And I think we, you know, said, okay, do you guys know what this is for? And I think talked them through, you know, we met on a TV show. And I will never forget when they were in the house and the kids were being interviewed by the producers and just like, deer in headlights. I can only imagine. Oh, my God. Max was like, they're like, how do you feel about your parents meeting on TV? And he's like, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, did they air that? I feel like I saw that. They did. Yeah, so funny. And Blake'sley, of course, was like, I think it's cool. Yeah, she's so sweet. I always say this. If they put my son Grayson's three and a half right now,
Starting point is 00:40:37 and already, whenever I'm doing things here at the house, he'll, like, walk out to do, like, I'll take a break and walk out and I'll come back and he's sitting in my chair right in front of the camera and, like, talking. Like, he's hosting it. So I can only imagine, I could only imagine what would happen if they sat him in a chair and asked them questions. Oh, it'll come. I'm sure they will.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Someone will. I don't think so. I, I, um, never been invited back to do anything in the history of ever, except, uh, occasionally here and there. You know, if Tristan Ryan wrote me in, if like they get me involved, then I, then I get to be a part of it. But if not, I'm never even invited. So stop. Well, in my opinion, with Jared and Ashley going back on Paradise, I was like, this is the best segment they've had in a long time. And I'm so looking forward to watching more. So I was like, why don't they do more? OG stuff. Like they could make an entire spin-off show. Like, just bring us all back into a mansion or to a beach and just put all of like fan favorites together. You are so right. Just have a vacation. I have been trying to do a vacation for so long.
Starting point is 00:41:44 But you know what? We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it maybe next week. We'll get your input, Sarah. Because the producers are on us saying, we need to wrap. We need to wrap. We need to wrap. Hard up.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Okay. So anyway, thank you, Sarah. It was so good to see your face. So happy for you and Dylan. Congratulations. So good to see both of you. I love you. Thank you for having me on.
Starting point is 00:42:06 We love you too, Sarah. Congratulations. And please tell Dylan, I can't wait to meet him. Okay. And tell Dylan hi. I'm a little. Thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Bye, guys. Bye. Bye, thank you. Bye, Sarah. Bye, not by Bob. Sorry. That's right. You know, that was actually so fun.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I love her. Love. Yes. So fun. You're so sweet. I love her. And she's right down the road, and I never get to see her. So getting to see her today was awesome.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Anyway, okay, well, that's another almost famous OGs. You were great driving that episode, by the way. Great questions. Oh, thanks. I just was like watching and thinking, I am going to ask Sarah this because I really would love to, you know, see behind the curtain a little bit. And she's been there. I loved it. All stuff I wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So great jobs. As always, Trista. Thank you. Thanks, Bob. See you guys next week Hi, my name is Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor And I'm Drew Phillips
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