The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Special Forces Play-By-Play

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Trista tells Bob what really happened on “Special Forces” and which cast member she found the most intimidating and who stressed her out the most. She also shares a first hand account of her experience in Los Angeles this week during the devastating fires. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All the most famous DOGs. Thank you so much for joining us. It's Bob getting in Trista Sutter. Before we get started today, Trista, there is a lot going on in the West Coast right now. I have so many of my friends who I've been texting with who have lost their homes. I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of acres of property and things just are burning and the winds. You were there to impress when this whole thing started, and you were talking about the winds and the embers and the ash. And you mentioned getting on your plane to fly back home.

What was that like for you? I mean, our hearts go out to everyone that's experiencing this in California in the greater Los Angeles area. So many of my friends, I've been texting with people. But what was that like? I mean, you kind of got to see a bird's eye view from your plane. Yeah, I was in L.A. for a very quick press trip for Special Forces. And we did, Denise Richards and I did an SMT where you just, you know, sit for people who don't know what that is. It's a satellite media tour where you just sit in one place and you do a bunch of interviews.

And they canceled a bunch of them because of the wins. So the winds in L.A. that morning were really bad. And I know there were, Malibu had had some issues with fires, I believe. I don't know if they were rampant everywhere else. But that day is really when a lot of it got out of control because of the ones. I think, oh my gosh. I mean, I'm hearing about, you know, cable boxes, electrical boxes that are like exploding. And I don't know if they're the cause of this.

but I was in my hotel. I was staying at the Sunset Marquis Hotel. And all of a sudden, I was like, it smells like the hotel is on fire. Something, there's a fire somewhere. We look out on the balcony and the sky, like you see all the pictures. It looked like that.

It smelled so horrible. It was awful. And there was ash floating in the air. And then I'm driving to the airport. And I tried to get pictures, but it was like, you know, on the highway, like, walked by, you know, whatever. And it was so scary.

I am so thankful that I was able to get home. And I just wish I could have brought thousands of people with me, you know? Yeah. It is horrifying. I think all of us know somebody who has lost a home or is in danger of losing a home, who had to evacuate. I am just, my heart is really heavy for. everybody, not really. And I have to say, you know, I'm at my premiere watch party last night while all this is going on. And we brought it up and like we have a text thread with all of

the recruits from the show. And we were all dealing with like, do we share? Do we like talk about the premiere? Because people, you know, want to know about the premiere, but it seems very tone deaf to just not address the fire. So when I got home from the watch party, I had been excited because I'm like, you know, in it and watching the show with my friends and family. And I wanted to come home and like share about it. And then I got caught up in, or I got on Instagram.

And I was like, I can't think of anything else. Like I, I'm just, I just, anyway. So we are thinking of everyone in L.A. I've been saying my prayers. I hope everyone else out there is saying prayers. I believe in the power of prayer. And I really hope that the winds will die down so that at least they can get some containment. Yeah, it's a bad. It's a very bad scene. And it's terrible. My friend, one of my really good friends, Cameron Matheson, posted a video of his. embers of his home. His home was absolutely beautiful. It is completely gone. I mean, completely gone. And I'm sure he wasn't even supposed to be up there, you know, filming, but he had to check on his house. He had some cars that he had restored and some different things of that nature, just I'm sure all lost. I haven't been able to get a hold of him, but I do know he's fine. And it's brutal.

I mean, it's such a, you know, it's such, and I was just there too. I mean, I was just there right before you were for your premiere. I was there for 10 days. And, you know, it's, hard you see everybody you love and everybody you know and you've known for years and you know and then you come home you're like oh my gosh i hope they're okay so yeah our hearts and our prayers and um you know all of our good our good will is going to our friends in california who are going through this and we hope you guys stay safe so um and i mean at the end of the day this is something that man i get it it seems trivial what we're you know what we're talking about here now after after everything everyone's going through but

know, who knows? Maybe people can find some comfort in it too, right, talking about something else besides what they're going through. So, you know, but God bless them and we're thinking about you guys. So on to our topic of the day, which is the almost famous OG Special Forces premiere episode starring Trista Sutter, the OG Bachelorette. And hey, I got to tell you something you know uh we've been talking about this for a little bit i was emotional watching that show last night i mean i really was i really was i was i was listening to everyone's stories and you know what's prompted you guys to do this and i was like oh my god this is intense you know like i was really into it maybe because i know you and i love you and i was like sitting

there going trista just challenged herself to do this stuff so outside your comfort zone um we had denise richards on i love denise and you know and you know and And she was going through it. We had Stephen on as well, Stephen Baldwin, you know, and for him to be, you know, the first one to go home. And, and almost by choice of his own, but kind of not. It was, it was interesting. You know, there was just a lot that happened last night. But, yeah, I mean, even from the jump of the show, you know, those guys are, those, your, your DS team, the drill sergeant team, they are tough customers.

Okay, I got to correct you. Well, what are they called? Right, right. But I think drill sergeant is like what you go to, what you think it's supposed to be, and it's actually directing staff. Directing staff. That's probably because they're, yeah, because they're not acting in a military capacity. Okay, I get it. So the directing staff, because that's why you say, yes, staff, instead of. Yes, yes, chef. Which is what I say. I say, yes, chef, which is what I say, yes, chef, which is what I say, yes, chef. So, chop these onions. Yes, chef. But in watching it, I was like, those dudes are serious dudes. Like, they've all been through. it you can tell and they're all like built like brick shit houses and then you guys are kind of chill kind of not and um you know lervous you can tell but you're all like just conversating on that boat seemingly all good and next thing you know you're getting like two hand shivered which is a football term for people but like basically a super hard chest or shoulder push off that boat it seemed

incredibly aggressive to me like I was like whoa in the middle of like a sentence so tell me about you know oh you get and i was just in watching it i'm like what the hell like it caught me off guard oh believe me it caught me off guard yeah uh-huh and they didn't even show my part like they showed nothing of what really nothing i mean a little teeny snip of like me being pushed into the water um yeah that was but you're right not much no not much um which is fine whatever um that was crazy because yes we're all like having a great time and connecting or reconnecting or whatever and saying hi and introducing ourselves and then they start throwing these um these things in the water and I was like what are they putting in the water like what's happening like just kind of noticing it

and people are like yeah and then all of a sudden you see out in the distance this black badass boat And you're like, oh, there they are. They're coming for us. And right after we saw the boat, the things that they put in the water started exploding. And so it's like, it's like there are bombs going off all around you. And all of a sudden, your like fighter flight is like, rah! You know, like, oh, my God, what are we doing? Well, then they throw those, like, smoke grenades on your boat, right?

Oh, yeah, that too. That too. So there's, like, there's explosions going off. they're you know you're safe you're not going to be impaled um yeah but the sounds are crazy and so they get to our boat and start screaming just from from the jump like you said get down get down and so all of us are just hit the floor right and then they come around and they put and not gently it's not like they're like okay watch that hair you know like right shove this thing on your head, push you down, and they're yelling at us. And then they start taking us one by one. And you

really couldn't tell what was going on because they, if you were not close to where they were pushing people off the boat, then you couldn't hear anything or maybe. So finally, my time comes and they, you know, yank the hood off. Well, before you even say this, what's going through your head while you have a hood on your head? And the boat's going to like, I don't know what I'd be doing. I think I think I'd be a stress case. I think I was focusing on my breathing because that helps calm me down. I was also trying to listen to what was happening. And literally, like, you're, you're like huddled up. You don't have the opportunities. You can't see anything. So I just kind of kept my eyes closed and just focused on my breathing. That's it. No real big secret. But yes, I was freaking out.

but you know what you signed up for. So you know it's going to essentially start something like that, you know? Yeah. So I get to Billy and he's like, what's your name? And I'm like, Trista Sutter. But I guess when I get stressed out, I talk very quietly. Okay. I was just kind of like, I think I was probably like, Trista Sutter, you know?

And he was like, what? Who are? you know, like, speak up. I can't hear you. Why do you sound like a mouse or something like that? Like, he's like, speak up. And so, and I'm just kind of like, oh, God, yeah. Uh-huh.

Why am I here? Oh, I'm here because I want to make my kids proud and be a role model and, you know, da-da-da-da. And then he goes, so do you know where you are? And I go, I think I'm in Wales. And he goes, oh, and like pushes me off. Like, I'm so frustrated with you. I'm done.

And so you hit the water, which we know from your experience, you've told me, you're not a, you don't feel like you're a strong swimmer. You don't love the water. I actually feel like I'm an okay swimmer. I haven't, like I haven't been on a swim team or anything like that for a long time. But I was a lifeguard. I was, I grew up as a swimmer. I just haven't done it in a long time. So I feel like swimming I'm good at. I'm just fearful of open water. Open water. Sorry. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. No, no good point. It's totally fine. It's easy to get them confused because, hello, water and water, but I feel like I'm an okay swimmer. I'm just scared of open water. But I will tell you, and I don't know if I said this in the other podcast, that fear was massive for me before I got to the show. And then I get to the show and you are in fight or flight mode. You're like, okay, what do I need to do to get to the next part, right?

And so I was not thinking about my fear at all, which was a great thing. Like, I don't know. We were in Mexico after this. We went on family vacation. And, you know, I got in the water. But it is so different when you feel like it's life-threatening in a way. Right. You know, just kind of cast your fears aside.

Yeah. No, I get it. I mean, it's, well, yeah, and I mean, isn't that kind of part of it, too? you know, I think one of the things Denise Richard said on the show, which I thought she said very, like with a lot of vulnerability too. Um, you know, she was like, I've been known to freeze in circumstances that are high stress and she's, you know, some very personal things. And, um, and she was like, you know, I want to, I want to be better. I want to learn that. You know, and I was, I was impressed by her fortitude for the most part too. I mean, obviously, you know,

again, spoiler. She, she was the second one to leave the show, but that's notorious. That, that whole thing as the toy says, like the gauntlet, even for the seals, going through that swim training, which is basically, for lack of better words, you're drowning or water being waterboarded. That had to be so hard. So hard. So hard. And you have to swim a really long distance. It doesn't look like it in the show.

But it was, I want to say, like a half a mile. I don't know. And mind you, you are in wet clothes and boots or whatever kind of shoes you have on. Um, I, this funny story, um, Cam Newton shows up. And listen, we don't know what we're going to be doing exactly. Right. But because the first episode was in the desert, the second episode was like snow, winter. The third, I figured it would be something different. So I figured it would be water. And I had on these like, um, like kind of like wicking pants that I found at REI, you know. and this, like, jacket that I thought would be lightweight and wouldn't be bad for the water. Cam Newton shows up in a wool sweater. Yeah, he was dressed with a vest, with a vest, a corresponding hat. I mean, he was going style points.

And one of his huge hats, which, and then the best part of this outfit, though, is, and mind you, he had not watched the show. So he didn't have the, like, sleuthing going on where I kind of put two and two together. but he had a diamond ankle bracelet like this thick on his ankle. Did it fall off in the water in Wales? I don't know. I want to ask him. We have to get him on the pod. So just so I can ask him that question.

But yes, like it was terrifying. But also at the same time, you're kind of just like, got to go. Got to get her done. I did get to the beach and Carrie Hart was like right behind me and I will say before we got on the boat, we were all in separate vehicles. So the boat was where we really were able to introduce ourselves to each other and say hi. And but before we got on the boat, I was in a car right next to Carrie Hart. Could not remember that it was Carrie Hart at the time. Like I kept staring at him. I told him afterwards, I'm like, I'm really sorry I was staring at you. I was like,

how do I know that guy? I could not think of it. And I have to say, he is so incredibly nice and so supportive to everybody, but he is freaking intimidating because he's like all tatted up, you know,

he looks like a badass. And he is a badass. Oh, yeah. He's like a big X-game guy, right? Like a big motocross guy. Oh, yeah, motocross. Like he has broken more than 80 bones. I heard him say that at the show.

Oh, my mind blew. I was like, oh, my God. The stories that we've heard about the broken, the worst breaks that he's had are crazy. But he, I was very intimidated with, you know, meeting him because I knew him from motocross days, like X games, whatever, back in the day. And of course, I'm a huge fan of pink. And he just like looks like a badass, which he does. He's just a very kind, kind badass.

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Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. get your tickets today a xs dot com so he was the most intimidating you think i mean for you was he the most intimidating i mean i feel like yes but also you would think cam newton because he's so freaking tall right and not even like he i think he's six five in you know that's how tall he is but his hair takes him like another two feet up. Right. Well, and he's just super broad, too. Like, he's a broad guy. Yeah. He's massive. So you would think that he would be intimidating just because of his size. I mean, I'm 5'2, you know, and he could fit me in his little pocket. But it's, it wasn't shocking to me because you just never know. He's intimidating

because of his size, but he's not intimidating because of his personality. He is so fun-loving and and goofy. Almost to his detriment, it seems. He and Golden both, you know, from last night's episode and watching it, you know, that kind of, their kind of playful banter was sort of pissing off the DSs a little bit, it seemed, you know? And so I almost feel like it's like they put a bull's eye on themselves in one regard because there's such a physical prowess, right?

They have such a physical stature that they're like, okay, we're going to break that dude down, prove a point, right? And then, you know, oh, I just felt like, oh, God, you got to. Like when Golden was doing the rappelling off the bridge and he's, pew, pew, pew, pew, and the guy, I'm just like, what are you doing? And I was wondering. Oh, my God. Yeah.

We all were like, what is he doing? And they were getting so pissed. And I will say, yes, they were getting pissed. They want to teach us that if this is an actual like situation where you are coming into enemy territory, then you have to be freaking mindful. You can't be like making jokes and like they were saying. show boating or whatever. Yeah.

But I think that they also saw that as a way. Because I think throughout the show, what the producers probably are telling them based on just the fact that I've been in reality television for a while now, I think the producers are saying, if there's an in to be able to punish them, here's what you could use as a punishment. Yeah.

And so when they were like misbehaving, if you will or just being you know goofy they were like oh okay we're going to put you guys on a platform for show voting and and punish everybody and so i think they use that as an opportunity to punish us and oh i felt bad so you could kind of see that i was in the car with um in the vehicle with denise cam and cam and golden after the bridge and that's when they punished us and what you don't see And mind you, if you do see it, just tell me because at my watch party, I was obviously watching, but I was also talking with people and the volume wasn't like what I would have it at at home. You know, so what they did is they took our backpacks and our rucks and they threw them like down this cliff into like this little ravine. Yeah, into the river there.

wet and you have you have a waterproof bag within your your ruck okay so you're supposed to keep your extra your dry clothes and socks and inside this waterproof bag okay and some people like it was the first day so we're not you know we're not used to having to pack our backpack so I think that Golden felt really bad because he thought that people's stuff was going to get wet well the hard part for him was and you saw me kind of consoling him in the vehicle like saying you know whatever you've you've been amazing to me we're all going to get through this together so what was hard was they threw the backpacks and then they were like go get your backpacks but golden and um and cam had to wait on the on the top of the cliff and watch all of us and we were

run like they were making us run and both of them were so like helpful to people like me and Denise and Kyla, who were small, like, who needed help with their backpacks, that it was even worse punishment, because not only did they throw our packs in the water, but they made them watch us, like, go through it and have to get through it, like, and find our back, our backpacks and put them on and, like, very quickly,

and we're all being yelled at. We're running down, like, mossy, very slippery rocks. Yeah. At one point, I know that Kayla was like, someone said, this is really dangerous. Like, we're running on slippery rocks. And Kayla was like, fuck it. Don't like, just don't do it. Like, go slow.

Who cares? She's like, walk if you need to. Just whatever. So I think that that was really hard for them because they are like helpers, you know, and they wanted to help. But they were being made to just watch us endure kind of this punishment in a way. Yeah. I watched Golden lean down to you at one point. He was like, you know, we're staying in this together. You know, we're not going to quit. Look me in the eye. Like it was a really sweet moment. But then I was going to say, the other thing I saw, what happened there with Cam Newton when he came down from doing his thing? And it was almost like I could, he goes, I was going to shake his hand with Golden, but it was almost like he knocked the wind out of Golden. What was that? Because that seemed to be what triggered the whole rucksacks being thrown in the ravine. Yeah. So during the bungee or the jump, Golden did something to his rib. They think, I think it was like a hairline fracture or some fracture. Like he didn't break his ribs, we don't think, but he injured himself during the jump. Like the harnesses were just, you know, it's hard. You can get injured. And I think he was injured. And then Cam came up to him and he kind of like,

like hit him like you know if you're being playful with someone and you're like listen you know whatever he kind of hit him right in his ribs where he had just gotten hurt and so golden was like oh like he just freaking killed me and meanwhile cam is like laughing about i don't even remember what he was laughing about but um yeah he hit him exactly where his injury was and i think because of that and because Cam was just being a little louder and like you know more he was laughing about something I can't remember what he was laughing about but that's what happened with Golden is yeah he he he accidentally you know hit him where I think he was injured oh my gosh that's horrible yeah I mean yeah that was brutal you guys going down that hill and it's like you know and then I started

thinking about it too I was like you know this is because cam and golden you know we're messing around And it's like, I wondered if they would do that to them. It's funny they didn't show that they made them watch you guys do it. Because that would have made, yeah, that's crazy. You know, and I do have to say, like, I was watching. So Golden did a bunch of behind the scenes on his Instagram stories yesterday. And what I want, and I've said this, I feel like in Denise and Stevens interview and Nathan, but they don't, I know I've said this, in between when you are in the vehicles and starting the task,

you have to run so you run everywhere and he said he said he thought that i think we had to run for like 30 minutes or something or or like three miles or something like that from the vehicle to like the dock where the helicopter was and it was chilly and like if you got in the water first you're standing there for for hours um yeah so at or i mean if you got in the helicopter then you didn't get wet. But if you jumped or whatever, or if you ended up in the water, then you got wet, obviously.

So what they don't show is all the hard stuff in between. And when we got to the bridge, you had an and, mind you, you get out of these vehicles and they're like, go, go, go. They're rushing you out of the vehicles. So it's not like you're like leisurely, like, you know, adjusting your sweatshirt

and, you know, whatever, getting out of the car. You are going with like a sense of massive urgency. Right. And so you're getting out. We're running. And we're running on this terrain that is all logs and rocks and whatever and straight uphill. So that was when Cam took my backpack. He took my ruck and like carried it for me.

So I could just focus on running because it truly is. I think you asked this, but I think it's 35. when you converted from kilograms. So we had to measure in kilograms. And we were at accommodations and they said if your pack is not, like when it's all packed up, if it doesn't measure the 35 pound mark or whatever, then you had to add sand to the bottom of your back. Oh my gosh.

To make it that heavy. And they were going to weigh them. And if they weren't exact, you were going to be punished. So I had a 35, 40 pound ruck on my back all the time, unless someone like my Angel Golden carried it for me. Yeah. So I saw the one picture. He had one in front and one in back. That was mine. I think that was mine. Yeah. That was incredible. You know, you mentioned the helicopter thing. I can't help but ask. So to me, and it might just be because you're, you know, everyone's stasher is different, right? Cam Newton, you know, his, his wingspan is so much longer than yours. But to me, it seemed like that helicopter, and how could it be?

I mean, no one's, you know, it's not like it's like the exact science. Yeah. It seemed like sometimes it's further away for some people than others, and they're like, no. And those people have to go when they're told to go. And it's like, well, what if it's not where it needs to be like, I mean, you know, it was crazy. I just, did you guys pick up on that from the shore or you not even think about it? So it's interesting because some of the people I was watching with last night, they were like,

the helicopter was really close for some people. They were like, Stephen Baldwin like just went like this. Yeah, he literally just jumped out. Yeah. Yeah. And then obviously you see Cam jumping and he's huge. So, you know, like, so I felt like what happened with me because they didn't show my jump. And gosh, it was crazy.

Just to say that I tried to jump from a moving boat to a helicopter is nuts. But when you're in it, you're in it. Like I said, so you get on the boat and they're like, they give you gloves and you are told the helicopter will come down. We will tell you when you can go, it's up to you to decide whether you want to go or you want to wait for the helicopter to get closer or whatever. And then if you don't go within a certain period of time, we are pushing you in if you haven't jumped. And so all I'm thinking is like, crap, I do not want to get pushed in

because they're not going to like gently, again, push you in gently. They're going to push you from a moving boat into the water if you don't jump. So the helicopter, when it came down to me, and you're right, it's a helicopter. Like people were like, that doesn't seem fair.

I'm like, well, you know, it is a helicopter and the helicopter pilot is doing his best so to like get close enough. Right. But it was definitely different for for everybody. And for me, it was just too far away. You actually, they showed me in the trailer trying to jump. And Ryan saw it. And he was like, you didn't make it. I'm like, yeah.

He's like, sorry, baby. He knew. But I was like, yeah, it was too far. And I was so scared that they were going to push me in that I just didn't wait for the helicopter to get any closer. But I will say, like, who knows what's better? I mean, getting onto the helicopter obviously would have been better. It would have been really hard because you have to have a really big core strength to pull up your legs. That's what happened to Denise.

You just, you know, couldn't do it. But once you try, so imagine you're like trying to jump for the helicopter. and then you don't make it and you go slamming into the water. Yeah, because that boat was going like about 30 miles an hour probably, right? Really fast. I don't know. Probably faster than that. Yeah, so you hit hard. I slammed. I slammed my face. I actually am shocked that I did not walk away with a massive like bruise on my face after that day. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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I know this is totally out of your wheelhouse. And even though I know you're a good athlete, I know you're a dancer. You know, it's totally out of my wheelhouse. Don't give me any credit. It's out of everyone. It's out of everyone. But I was watching it.

And I got a little emotional. Like when I started hearing the. backstories, you know, and why people were there and what they were going through. And, you know, it made me, and I know we'll probably get to that soon with you as far as it goes from the standpoint of, you know, just the show is like, I think we got through four people in the first episode where we got to hear some of their stories like Jordan and Denise and Stephen and then at the tail end of the show, Allie. But it was like, I was watching it.

It was so much intensity. And all I could think about was when we met, you know, 20 some years ago. And the physicality of The Bachelorette was nothing like this show. But the mental, oh, my God, you had, which one was worse for you? The mental strain of having to send me home. Having to jump up from a chopper. Really, do you really have to ask this question? Yeah, like, I mean, you don't get sleep on.

bachelor or bachelorette at least if you're a lead so that part's similar that part is very similar but otherwise all of it is way harder on special forces like it's the hardest thing i've ever done in my life oh heck yeah even even with having children and whatever it is the hardest thing mentally emotionally you saw me in this episode bawling my eyes out crying like no i don't want to go home but he's like you need to go home you don't want here or whatever and and i can't talk a lot about, because I don't know what they're going to pull from that day for the next episode, you know. So I really can't talk about, I can talk next week when we recap about what really went down on the beach, because I feel like they might still show some of that.

Well, even in Allie's thing, you know, they're telling Allie, you're going home or whatever at the end of the episode. And then if you watch the outtakes, they're showing you guys back in that surf with the chain locked arms doing the backwards, but with a log on your chest, it's like, what? No kidding. It's just absolute madness. Oh, and they didn't show half of what we did on the beach. I mean, here's the deal.

For anyone who watches reality, you know by now that there's so many hours of footage. I mean, there's 10 days of footage, right, for this show. Yeah, yeah. And, and, and you throw in time 16. So there's 16 people and they're trying to get the story for, for everybody, right? So there's so many hours of footage and they can't show everything. I wish they could because I really kind of just want to see it played back.

Yeah. But you don't see half. I mean, the beasting where we were treading water in the pool. I was just talking to Ali this morning and we were like you cannot tell that that was grueling and people were legitimately having panic attacks there were times when I said

they're drowning, they're going down like get them you know and actually like I said about swimming I felt really strong in the bee sting like I literally went to the side beehive thank you the beasting is the workout thing. Yes, you're right. So, um, so I went to the side maybe five seconds before they

quit the whole thing and made all of us go to the side. But what you don't see in that is we were treading water for, I don't know, 15 minutes. He was splashing us in the face, like in the face constantly because they wanted to mimic like the, the waves when you're out there and open water. And then afterwards, and you didn't see the like the full on panic attacks. And you didn't see afterwards, they had us doing push-ups and sit-ups. You would lock your legs onto the edge of the pool, and then they had you doing sit-ups, like putting yourself in the water. Oh, my gosh.

You know what else they didn't show? They also didn't show Denise hanging on to Nathan and almost drowning them. Because remember she told us that? Yeah, totally. They didn't show a lot of that. I mean, in the beginning, Golden had a hard time with the water, and so did Cam. And Cam jumps.

I was right next to Cam when we jumped in. And immediately I was like, I got to get away from him. Even though I want to help him, I got to get away from him because he is just going to pull me down. Like easily pull me down. And I didn't know at that time when you jump in, you don't know at the time that there are scuba divers under the water that are prepared to, like if someone did stay under for a while,

they would have rescued them. Wow. But you don't know that when you get in. So you're like. Well, 16 people, you're not going to see anything down there, you know. No, and it was, it was dark what they don't show you. Like, they had lights on, but it was, it was really dark. The pool was probably painted black on the bottom, so it was really dark.

You could not see anything. That was like when, you know, and I wasn't, I had no idea who I thought was going to be the first one to go home. But when Stephen went to the side and he just, you know, he wasn't even responding when they were like, let's go. And he's just like sitting there. Mouth was wide open, which I will say I did notice a few times throughout the show he seemed to be having a difficult time breathing. So, like, you know, there's, yeah, okay, yeah. And he was just sitting there and he's like not responding to them getting back in the pool.

That's the first time I'm like, I think Steven's going to be the first one to go home. You know, I kind of thought, you know, that she, that he might be the first one to go home. But then you start realizing like when Jordan, the gymnast that was called in for her, you know, her dress down or whatever they call that when they're, you know, when they're in there. The mirror room. The mirror room. Yeah. Yeah.

And she even said, she's like, I didn't know I was scared of water. And then until she started panicking and she literally had a panic attack on the beach. Like you could tell. It was definitely for real. And I was hooked up to her. Yeah. It was like, oh my gosh. I mean, did you discover that you had any new fears or any new things?

I mean, I know you went into it with a pretty good assessment of yourself. You didn't like heights. You didn't feel comfortable swimming in open water. Yeah. anything else come along? Because you seem to tackle both of those pretty well. Those were fine. And the bungee, like, thing, I've always been scared of bunnies,

but this was like a sitting bungee. It wasn't really a, you know, a typical, like, bungee jump. Yeah. I didn't discover more fears. I mean, I'm fearful of a lot of things. I think also pain, you know. Sure. And that came up.

But, no, Jordan, it was like a completely new thing for her. She had no idea that she was so scared. And she, I don't know if you've ever had a panic attack, but they are really scary. Even if you're on the ground. Like solid ground, they're really freaking scary. I've had one. My nose went numb, like tingle. It was really awful, couldn't breathe.

She, my heart was just hurting for her. And then I was linked to her when we were linked up on the beach. And it was hard for me because I was like, I need to focus on like getting through this. But I also want to like help her through it. And I'm like, it's okay. It's okay. You're going to get through it. Like, you know, they don't show this part.

But I'm like, you can do this. You can do this. Like I'm trying to encourage her. And she's probably like, no, I can't. No, I can't. I can't do it. I'm drowning. You know, whatever.

So, oh, that was really, really tough. And when people develop or discover new fears, it's really, really scary. But thank God I didn't, I didn't go through anything. Yeah. Well, water, I think, can be a big one, too, for people. You know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's a lot and water can do, you know, I'll never forget, scuba diving with Canyon, or not even scuba diving, we were snorkeling on one of the first trips we

ever took together. And she started having, like, a panic attack. And I just picked up, I was like, I was like way far away because I just live in the water my whole life. And I saw it. I'm like, oh my God. And I swam over to her. And I was just like, you know, are you okay? And, you know, it's one of those things when you see someone. It's hard to deal with in the water. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're so fearful. And now if you're shut down, it's just going to get worse, you know. Another one for you. So Ali Fedatowski, obviously, Bachel Nation, you know, favorite. She was in there with you. And she was like the, I think, number two person to go or

one of the first to attempt the second task you guys had to do, which was the bridge. The bridge. Yeah. So I will say that I don't, they didn't do things in order. Oh, okay. Like what you're seeing is not necessarily how things were done. Well, you can tell, you can tell that too because at the end of the first episode when they're telling Allie, like her broken finger, which happened in this task. they're like you're going to have to go home but then they're showing footage of her doing the situps with a log on her and you're like wait we haven't seen that yet you know what you mean so yeah somebody uh the continuity was a little bit uh you know to be desired on that one but at the end of that when she when her finger was all like caught up in the repelling gear and stuff um was she saying was she saying like she wanted to go home at that point or was she saying she didn't want to go home because because i couldn't tell what she was saying at that point and i was like if you know and i knew she had trained hard for this

she definitely did not want to go home. Yeah. No, not at any point. She was talking to us about, like, the recruits, about how her finger was hurting. But obviously, they're listening to everything, right? Right. So, and you don't have microphones on. Right.

They just have it boomed. Oh, I thought that's what that, Mike, I thought that's what that rap was around everyone's neck. Oh, sorry. Did we have microphones? Oh my gosh. I literally can't remember. Yes, we did. We did. Thank you. You're right. So we did have microphones. Oh my gosh. I'm like, of course we had to have microphones. Anyway, we, she was telling us about the finger and complaining about it. Because it was, it was bothering her. And I will say continuity wise, she did still do the beach, the beach thing after that. It just, she just pushed through like the fact that it was, it was hurting. but she definitely did not want to leave. All of us were encouraging her. Like, you can get through it, you know.

Oh, my God. She looked like she was carved out of stone. Like, I mean, I've known Allie for years. No. You could tell she had been training hard. I mean, like, she took this very seriously and she was ripped, you know? Ripped. She worked out three times a day.

Like, she was ripped. and she was very goal-oriented. She wanted to make it to the end, which is why I called her today. We talked. She actually reached out to me too, but I feel horrible for her. Like she really wanted to get,

and she worked so hard for it. So when you work so hard for it and you're taken out, like not voluntary, Right. Especially when you're still willing to go on. But she was like, no, I'm not going. And they're like, we can't have you in the situation, you know. No, she was, she was really upset because her finger, she felt like she could continue the tasks, but they felt like, I mean, maybe I shouldn't talk about it. It's really her story to tell. But I think they thought she was going to have more permanent damage. We can definitely talk to her when she's on, right? We'll have her. And, but I'm wondering, you know, the way they ended that first episode, it almost feels like they're going to, pick up on the second episode where they left off on the first, to a certain degree, at least in my mind they're going to, because you're going to have to give us some closure on what's going on with Allie and why they're like saying, you can't continue. One last person to talk about who was

featured pretty heavily in the first episode, I thought, was Kayla Nicole, who I knew vaguely who she was. And, you know, her story, obviously she's talking about her ex-boyfriend, Travis Kelsey, and his new girlfriend, Taylor Swift. And I did love. And I thought it was really, I thought it was a really kind gesture knowing reality TV as we do that they kept in there that she's like, you know, I'm actually a fan of hers. You know, like they kept that statement

in her saying that because, you know, I have heard that she kind of just gets attacked mercilessly on online and stuff and it's really affected her. And you could tell. Like I thought it was, I think that was part of it too was, you know, you live your life in the public eye to a certain degree.

You're going to get people who just want to hate on you for no reason. And we've all experienced it. And probably never to the degree that she's experienced that I wouldn't guess. But, you know, her, it's like affected her so much. She doubts who she is. She doubts what she can do. And so it was like super important for her to push through on this. Like, did you have a chance to really connect with her much in to talk about that? Because it seems like she was still going through a lot of stuff. Yeah. No. So, So in the vehicles, in the vehicles, you're randomly, you randomly get into vehicles. So you're not assigned a vehicle.

And I ended up in one of the vehicles with her. I think the, maybe the first, we were like, it was like maybe four hours or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. The drive for us. We didn't have our phones or watches or anything. So you don't know what time it is. I think we're given a watch, but I don't think I ever used it.

um so i said i said i think i said something stupid like so what's your sport thinking like she's an olympic athlete or something because she is she's a badass like she is she is ripped you know um and i thought naturally she's some kind of athlete right i didn't i didn't know who she was but um i said what's your sport and she's like um I don't have a sport. She's like, I just, I think she said I have a, I have a wellness company or something like that. Yeah. And she does.

She's an influencer, but clearly her claim to fame, if you will, is the fact that she's been kind of thrown in the fray of this relationship. And I love that they showed her talking about how she's been bullied. Like, cyberbulling is just not okay. And no matter who you are, you don't know what happened in their relationship. You don't know who she truly is unless you know her and you don't. And I just, it breaks my heart that she's been through that because she does. It seems like she loves Taylor and she has a respect for their relationship, but she's just getting hate and it's stupid. so yeah yeah i never like seeing anyone get bullied you know it drives me crazy she's tough i we had a

moment on the sand where they asked us so like i said you didn't see so much of the beach but we did like we had to move we had to sprint across the sand at first go grab these logs and sandbags and bring them down to the beach or to closer to the water and so we are we're running run And it is not easy to run in sand with boots on. Like, big old military boots. Wet boots. Well, I don't know at this point if we were wet. But yes, wet boots.

And so we're running. We're doing these logs. And we bring, we brought this log. We're lining them up. Like they needed to be like right next to each other. Yeah. So I picked up this log and moved it and accidentally like kind of crushed her hand. and oh I felt so horrible and I was like oh my god I'm so sorry and she's like you know she kind of grunted

and I was like oh no she hates me like oh no I'm making enemies I don't want to make enemies but I felt so bad because you're you know you're in this to stay healthy and you want to support everybody and I accidentally like hurt her so I'm just glad it wasn't like anything bad but no well i i mean i know there's so much on the cutting room floor you know uh metaphorically on these shows but it's like you watch it and you feel like i i felt a connection to i gotta be honest i thought the show was shot beautifully i thought it was like like all the all the scenic things they did and then i really you know i think because everyone is so vulnerable and you know these people from abroad you know from afar rather and you you start seeing these guys

get into it with them, like, especially in that mirror room. And it's like, oh, my God, like, they're even being nice. Like, the DSs are being nice. And it's like, it's, they're still being tough, but they're being nice. Um, you know, so I can't help myself. I watch a show like this. I immediately, you know, and I know it's kind of like, it's kind of like in another way, a little parallel maybe to the bachelor and bachelor and bachelorette, but how we always say, you know, the person who's left at the end isn't the winner, right? Like, they're not trying to win. Yeah. They're, you know, and I get it. This isn't necessarily a contest, but I still couldn't help myself by watching the show and thinking who I think's going to be there in the end.

And I got to be honest, I know with the nature of this show, I'm going to be surprised. So I feel like for you, like being someone who goes on this show, are you sitting there looking around going, oh, man, you know, Cam Newton's going to be the last guy stand in? Or are you like, you know, are you looking around thinking, okay, like maybe, maybe after you get to know, Kayla and Nicole, you're like, man, she's got the fortitude. She's going to be here. You know, is it one of those things that you start doing that yourself? And because you actually know the outcome, you don't have to tell me who it was that you

thought this about. Were you correct in your thoughts? That's what I'm going to ask. Yeah. So, yeah, of course, like you think, oh, wow. Like, this guy is a crazy good athlete. Like, Brody was at the, he was a leader of the pack all the time. Carrie, same, like the two, those two guys.

I immediately thought, oh, my gosh, they are totally going to make it to the end. Cam and Golden, come on. And then you've got Landon Donovan, who's a professional soccer player, you know, like all these athletes. Like, how could you not think that anybody's going to last? Like, you think everyone's going to last when you get there just because you know their resume. And you see them in the tasks.

So I definitely, I can't share obviously what happens, but I can share that I, there were some instances where I was confused, whether it's someone made it longer than I thought they were or someone made it shorter. Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having a. An emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane. Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this, until this. Do this.

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pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. When you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here. to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're

avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse. For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. So who are you thinking is going to make it to the end? Well, okay, there's still a couple people I don't know on the show. Like I haven't been introduced to him yet. When I'm watching, like, all of you guys lined up, I'm still kind of like, who is that person? And I don't want to cheat, right? I don't want to cheat.

So I want to, like, just kind of watch it unfold. I, you know, I had the episode not ended the way that it ended last night. I would have thought Ali was going to be around for a while, you know, and, because she just looked determined, right? And I thought you looked great in the first episode from the standpoint of like, you're not willing to quit. You're like staying in there. And I know how important it is to you for your kids to see this.

And, you know, that's awesome. God, I get emotional talk about it. See, I told you. I think I'm putting myself in your shoes a little bit too. And, you know, it's got to be, you know, really incredible to be in that moment. But I would say just from sheer athletic ability, yeah, I would think, you know, because Cam is just a freak of nature, how athletic and how strong he is. I mean, basically deadlifting himself up on that swinging helicopter, mind blown on that one.

Yes. I know Golden. Like, I've played golf with Golden, and I know how he played for the Detroit Lions for a while. Then the Seahawks, when I live in Seattle, I got to know him through a mutual friend. And I just, I know how much of an incredible competitor he is. But, you know, Landon, I wasn't even thinking about that. And Brody, too. And Carrie, I mean, those guys are all, you know, super competitive.

And Brody has the genetics to be probably the, you know, the one who could last the longest out there of all of them, right? Because of, you know, just the genetic makeup. So I don't know. I'm like, I would say I would pick, you know, a couple of the athletes, I guess. Marion Jones, we haven't talked about her. Haven't talked about Marion at all. And she was not featured either.

There were so many people, I feel like now looking back, we were not included as much as some, which is fine, whatever. It is what it is. It's not why I did it, you know, to be featured for a certain amount of time. I just want, like I said, I'm just curious to see it and relive it, you know? Yeah. I think you might be having the next episode. I really do. I think you might find yourself being featured a little bit more in that next.

episode because it seems to me like and maybe I'm just reading into it but the people that haven't been featured as much right now to me are the ones that we're going to see more of in the next couple episodes right because yeah I just I don't know I just think that's kind of how it works but I'm very let me just ask you this so you don't have to give anything away where the people in your mind that you were thinking were going to last the longest did they or are because you haven't disclosed who you thought they would be other than who you think I thought they would be, which you were right on the money with that. Would you, were you right or were you surprised by the people that lasted longer?

Oh, there's definitely some surprises. Yeah. For sure, there's surprises. And honestly, it kind of comes to, you know, if someone gets injured and they didn't plan it. You know, all of us going into it, I want maybe with the exception of one, had the motivation to make it to the end or how should I say that that really really wanted it you know that we were there to get to the end I think that was the general consensus is no one we didn't get there thinking oh this person is so going to leave like in an hour because they just don't want

to be here everyone wanted to be here be there you know um so It's hard because a lot of it really is mind over matter because, like, all of us have these fears. Kayla, you know, she had a massive fear of heights. Yeah. And doing that bungee, she did it and she rocked it. And by the way, I didn't even talk about that, the bridge. Like, I wasn't featured. I get up there and I have this healthy fear of heights and you just have to step back and like, whatever, do it.

And I was the second to last to go. So I was asking everyone after they came off. Okay, what's the trick? Like, what do you do? Like, tell me your thoughts. And I, I, you know, not jump off, but I stepped back and fell down. It catches me. And I'm like, oh, I kind of grunted.

And people do that. It's like a natural response to like having the, like the wind taken out of you. You know, like you're right. Well, I heard you say, my damn mouth. My mouth got me in trouble. Yeah, exactly, but I didn't get to explain it. So I grunted. And then what you had to do is you swang, swung three times.

So you swing, you swang, swung, swing three times. You had to count it. And then you had to drop this bag that was carabinered to your hip at like right at the middle of the third drop. like under the bridge. It had to be like right vertical with the middle of the bridge. And some people had had trouble with that. I did that part perfectly.

Okay. So I get down. I repel quietly. Rudy was at the bottom and he was like, you did amazing. And they failed me because I grunted. Yeah. The noise.

And everyone grunted. I mean, Nathan went in in the beginning. I think he was first or second. And he grunted. and but because it was like first or second, they kept saying over and over again, we are in enemy territory. You have to be silent.

You cannot make a sound. And I think they passed him because it was in the beginning and people really didn't get the rules. I don't know. But they failed me for the same thing. So I was really bummed because I was like, oh, I felt good in that.

You know, I actually accomplished it and felt good. So you just never know. Like you, that's why I'm saying this. You just never know because even guessing, like, who's going to make it to the end, you really truly just never know, even though we all had the desire to get to the end and could say that mind over matter get us to the end, you just never know. Unless it was editing, I think the only one that maybe didn't was Stephen, because Stephen's like, if there's a way that I could not get hurt, tell them that.

No, he's gone. I mean, I was like, you got to go home, bro. You know, he didn't want to get to the end. Well, and he's gone. Like, he, he, him and Denise are done. They're not bringing anyone back that has left, including Allie. Like, they're, there, those three are, are, are, their end has, the special forces has come to an end. So.

Yes, yes. Anyway, yeah, I think you'll just have to wait and see. I can't wait. I mean, honestly, I'm like so, I was so into it. And Canyon came down to watch it with me because we were having. having a tough time getting the boys to fall asleep. And she's like, I really want to watch this. So we recorded it.

But she wanted me to tell you that she thought you did a great job too. And, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, you're just watching it going, oh, man, I hope, you know, I was just, I was just rooting for you. I mean, I was really proud of you. And just it can't be an easy thing to do. And you're so out of your comfort zone. I mean, it's just, whew, it's intense. So great job.

And thank you. Thank you for doing it. And thank you for giving us something awesome to talk about. I mean, and great to watch. Yeah, that was my reason. When everyone asked me why, I'm like, so I have content for my podcast. What do you think? Bob really needs to ask some hard-hitting questions.

I'm going to give them to them. Well, thank you so much, Trista, for joining us on your own show and giving us such awesome content. But I can't wait. We're going to do, just so everyone knows, we're going to do a weekly recap of Special Forces on Fox, almost famous OG recap. We're going to do it every week. we're going to have people featured that are on the show.

We might even have the mean dudes. We will, the staff. We are hoping. Yes. Yes. So it makes sure you tune in because this is going to get good. And I'm just so excited to get to talk to everybody who's been on there and to, you know, kind of live through your experience. So thanks for doing this.

This is something that I'm not sure if I'd ever have the courage to do it. I'd like to think I would. But watching you on there has made me, you know, kind of. to live the experience with you. So I'm loving it. And I thought you did an awesome job. So hats off to you, my dear friend. Great work. Thank you. Please everyone want, you can watch the next episode of Special Forces on Wednesday nights, 8-7 Central on Fox. And then if you don't get the chance to watch it on Fox, you can watch it the next day streaming on Hulu. And, you know, just to touch based on how we started the show too. Our prayers go out to everybody in L.A. in California that are going

through these fires and we're thinking about you guys. And I'm sure you're probably not listening to the podcast in real time because you got way bigger things to work on out there. But, you know, when you do, just know we didn't forget about you and we love you guys and we hope you all get through everything as well as possible. So, yeah. Thank you. Well said. All right. Well, we will keep you guys up to speed on everything that happens here with Almost Famous, the OGs. And thank you so much for listening. I've been Bob Kinney. And I've been Trista Sutter. There you go. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle.

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