The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: Tales of the Tiara with Erica Rose

Episode Date: April 29, 2023

It's a Royal return for our Bachelor OG Bob Guiney when he talks to Erica Rose from Lorenzo Borghese's season.  Erica holds nothing back when sharing memories from the Bachelor Italian villa, and we hear the real story of why she wore the famous tiara.  Plus, find out why a different reality show completely t changed her parenting style with her daughters!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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great guest who's with us today. You know her from Lorenzo, Prince Lorenzo Borghese's season of The Bachelor, way back in 2006, which is crazy. So this really is OG style because I was 2003. Trista and I were 2002 and 3. So there you go. I mean, this is going way back. You remember her from her tiara and she came on. She was basically a princess. Erica Rose. And Erica is here. She's going to join us. And we're We're going to find out all things that are going on with Erica. So let's bring her in. Ladies and gentlemen of the almost famous OG family, please help me welcome, Miss Erica Rose. Hi.

Wait a minute. Is that your tiara? Is that the old school tiara from back in the day? It's a headband. It's good. Nice to see you, too. How are you? I'm good.

I can't remember if we've ever met IRL in real life. Yeah, I think we did like some event years ago. It was very brief though. And I remember, I remember thinking, man, I really, she's so nice, you know, but it was crazy because I didn't realize. So I mean, obviously I was just talking about before you came in, I was, you know, way back of the day, of course, 2003. But then I realized, I'm like, oh my God, you guys were 2006. You weren't that far behind me.

It's crazy. I watched your season, of course. And I felt like that, but sometimes I think. I met someone and then it's like, oh, we met online or you never know. Yeah, I know. I'm a fan of yours. Honestly, I think you have a great attitude, always positive. Oh, well, thank you.

The feeling is mutual. I know you, I always thought you were like the first one that came on with your own thing going on. You know, like that was before, I feel like you coming on with a tiara and being like, I'm a princess and I deserve to be treated a certain way. You know, I think it really resonated with people, and I'm sure it was polarizing to some, right? I'm sure you got some grief. but obviously, you know, it made you very noteworthy. And was it one of those things like walking into it?

You were just like, I've got an idea, I'm going for it, and I'm holding true. Like, how did you make the decision to go in? Well, it was literally because the Bachelor of my season, still friends with me, Prince Lorenza Borgesi, that's why I wore a tiara, because he was a prince. Right. Before that, I had only worn one literally once at my 23rd birthday. And then it just became a thing. but Lorenzo actually came to my husband and my wedding.

Oh, that's awesome. I've stayed lifelong friends. But yeah, I always tell people I wouldn't have worn a tiara if, you know, it was your season or like Thomas. I wouldn't have came in with a crown being like, I'm your princess. That would have been so random. I think a lot of people like don't get that. I did that because he was a prince. I was surprised not more girls did that.

I know. It is. Actually, when you think about it that way, it makes perfect sense. sense, right? You come in, you're like, hey, I mean, if you were on Jesse's season, you would have come in with a football helmet, right? I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of ways to go. And I didn't, I don't even think I would have done, like, Jesse's season, because I don't think I would have been his hype, whereas, like, Lorenzo, we are lifelong friends. So there was something to that, just feeling like either, you know, we could be a good

match, but if not, like, I made a lifelong friend, so that's really cool. Yeah, I really love Lorenzo. He and I met at the Kentucky Derby several years back, and I remember just I liked his whole thing you know it's like he came in and was just just a nice nice guy in fact I still keep in touch with him and he he just sent me some of his beer which is really good well I need to try that I'm not a huge beer person but still I'm sure his is really good yeah it's almost like you're drinking like a popsicle which I'm like that you know I'm not a big beer guy either so yeah very sweet but that okay so you go on the show obviously you know you're a fan favorite people really kind of resonate with you and you

You got down. How far did you go on Lorenzo season? Were you down to the final four? It was kind of like the final eight, but then the producers brought me back to judge a competition when there were six girls left and picked the top two winners. And the two that I picked, Gin and Sadie ended up being the final two.

Wow. I was there longer, but I was really like number eight eliminated. Sure. Yeah, I kind of went my season. I was technically like the fifth guy left because they hadn't really figured. they went to six and then they went to four and um and similarly i remember like i thought i was i was done you know so i'm watching the show at home like everybody else and every week i'm still in

it doing something like that's how i was they kept like editing it and i'm like um i was like doing this one thing like in a bathtub i'm like i wasn't there though but it was fun because i got to hang out in rome with handler you know for a couple yeah that was nice that was heck yeah that point that's so awesome yeah you you were one of the I'm not sure if it was before your season, but it became a thing where, obviously, with Lorenzo, you know, being in Italy was key, but I feel like that sort of kick started the season starting to travel a lot more and a lot earlier, you know? Yeah, it was kind of, like, I felt I was 23, so it was a little over, I had been overseas, I'd been to Italy, but it was

overwhelming to me, I think, like, leaving my dog, leaving my family, like going to Italy. I think it would have been, like, when I did Bachelor Paddy. and it was in LA, that was a lot less scary. I don't know. There was something about, like, the whole season being in Italy that was just, it really felt like, wow, I'm really like going away to a foreign country. Like, this is crazy. Yeah, that was a big deal.

I mean, I remember when they traveled the show that year and the whole thing. I mean, I heard stories. Was the mansion, like, now, did you all stay in the same mansion? I'm sorry, you got to refresh my memory, but were you guys all in the same mansion on that one? Or was it, did you have different homes? So, yeah, we stayed in the same place. I didn't make it to like overnight traveling dates or anything. But it was funny because the villa in Italy was not like as nice as the Bachelor

Mansion only because it was Italy. It was the summer and it's like Houston summer weather. But in Italy, I'm like here, there's no air conditioning. Right. It's an old villa that was one of his, I think, relatives villas from back in the day. So it was hot A.F. We were like sweating like glow like not cutely but glowing in all of our interviews. And they were, like, bringing in fans to cool us down.

And so, like, it was a beautiful villa, but it was really uncomfortably hot. Yeah. So the mansion, honestly, was a lot nicer, even though we slept, you know, in bunk beds when we did Bachelor pad, which was also so crazy. Yeah. Like, literally, like, having sex in the bunk beds, like, while I was to sleep. But I just didn't care. We were so tired. I'm like, I'm just going to sleep.

Well, I was going to say, I remember talking to Lorenzo about the villa in Italy. And he was like, oh, my God, it was amazing. but yeah he's like but you know and uh yeah i do remember that yeah we went and we did have a date at his villa where he was staying the one i was eliminated at two-on-one but where he was staying was nice you know of course air conditioning um yeah like rig closet i don't know so of course this would be nicer but people thought it was funny when i remember i complained about where we were staying it wasn't the aesthetics it was that it was about 100 degrees in like the summer in rome And there was no air, you know, so that was crazy.

You know, knowing the producers, I got to believe, they're like, this would be great. It'll really get the women pissed off. It'll be fantastic. You know what I mean? Yeah. But then you mentioned Bachelor pad. So, yeah, so you went from Bachelor, your, you know, top 10, of course, on The Bachelor, top eight. And then you go, how long were you home before they called you about Bachelor?

Like, life moved on. Like, I literally started law school and was like, that's it. like I'm going to be, you know, time past. I started law school, I think, in like 2009. Yeah. And maybe 2010, but anyway. And so then I was like in law school doing my thing. And they invited me to kind of like a little, not reunion, but it was after like a men's

taping of the tele, you know, the reunion. Yeah. In L.A. went to that. And then they were like, we'd love to have you on Bachelor Pad. I didn't do it the first season because I had a really good summer clerkship. in law school with like fiscal middle fence layer so i think i had a lot of friends that did that season but i ended up doing bachelor pad season two and three which was three was the final season yeah was it awesome i mean did you did you love it was it a great experience was it no

bachelor itself was a great experience i can't say that i on by the first bachelor pad i did i can't say it was a bad experience because i made good friends like vienna for example my friend Melissa, they all came to my wedding. So in that regard, like, and even Michelle Money, I love her. Yeah, yeah, I do too. Your wedding, you know. So I can't say I regret doing it because of the cool friends that I made. Even though I got eggs thrown at me, like, I honestly wasn't.

Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. It was like more at the time I was just so busy and wanting to move on because I had to go as possible. But then it was more awkward when I was dating someone, like not on the show. you know in real life and they would see the egg toss challenge and be like oh my god you're the least attractive girl in the house because that's what the thing said so i was really lucky when i met my husband that he had only seen the bachelor but not bachelor pad still hasn't watched it um he knows

about the challenge but i don't think i brought it up to him until maybe we were married a couple years well i think you probably can guess at this point that was a pretty produced moment for them to say something like that anyway because clearly that's not the case but well you know it's funny i mean i i i got invited back and it was kind of fun for me to entertain the idea but they had called me at one point about bachelor pad and i was like i thought they meant to host it you know it was for the first one so i was like oh you know maybe i would do that that sounds fun and they're like no we want to have an actual you know one of the like the bachelors on it i'm like so tell me the concept you know and i remember how they pitched it to me and then i remember kind of looking into it a little bit more

and I'm like, are you kidding me? I would get killed there. Like, it's like survivor meets... It was hard. Yeah. Bachelor and Paradise, they have it easy. I mean, they're just hanging at the beach. The challenges we were doing were like these kind of like real world road rules

challenges from back in the day. If you ever watched that, we'd be like... Yes. Synchronized swimming. Just like the craziest things, obviously. A lot of them were not my strong suit. One does it involve more like strategizing. It was better at.

But I jake did it, you know, the former back... Yeah. And so I, you know, I thought it was cool that he was there. I thought I was like, he's the cutest one because he was the only one that was a bachelor. So I think, I feel like you would have done well on it. Just the seasons, I thought everyone would have liked you. I think I would have gotten, thank you. It's very sweet of you to say.

I would have gotten killed. I literally thought about it. I was like, I don't even understand. Like when I watch Survivor, I get so uncomfortable. Like, I'm always like, oh, my God, how do they form alliances and all this kind of stuff? I'm like, I would never make it. It was great. Because the alliances started before.

Like people would like a number of my friend Casey Kael called me up like I met him at some reunion party and he called me up ahead of time thinking like okay girl you're going to be in my alliance I'm like what WTF like people are already strategizing like I was lucky to have that yeah he did like since I was so bad at the challenges it really did carry you a long way and looking back even at season three the last one I did I was upset with my friend Michael Stagliano at the time but he was like I saved you from like four eliminating You've literally lost every challenge. So I think I shouldn't have been as it's set with him as I was in feeling betrayment, you know. Yeah. It didn't mean. And then I eliminated him, whatever. It's all water under the bridge. But it's just, you know, you reflect and you look back.

But the alliance stuff and it was kind of a chaotic environment for sure. Yeah. Well, and it was kind of uncharted waters, right? Because it's also like everybody's probably hooking up. And like you said, you know, you're in a bunk bed. It's like I think it would be so uncomfortable. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.

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Oh, that's the run right. I'm looking at this thing. See? Listen to no such thing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so you go through that. Are you a lawyer yet? Or are you a lawyer yet? Or are you, you, where are you at that point? I graduated law school and then instead of, so I, like, season two was fine. I should have just, like, taken the bar exam with all my friends from law school in the summer of 2012.

That's the only thing I regret it's doing season three. I think in my mind, I was like, didn't find love on season two. Yeah. Actually, Pat, I'm going to do it this time. I had just turned 29. So all my friends from Houston, like, back home, we're getting married. And I really should have just, like, taken my bar exam and just moved on with my life. but instead, I didn't do that.

So I filmed season three and like nothing horrible happens, but like, didn't find love. So I think I went to the time where after that I was like, okay, I'm done with this, you know. Thought I wanted to do entertainment media law, like stayed in L.A. for a little bit, had a baby. Yeah. My ex, who were friends still, co-parents, whatever. Then I moved back to Houston with her, my daughter, reconnected with my husband, got married, We studied for our bar exams together. I passed it.

And so I've been a lawyer almost five years. And then my husband and I also have a daughter together. So I have two daughters. I know. Congratulations. They're adorable. I saw I was looking at some pictures early. Holland and Aspen.

Those are awesome names. Thank you. You're welcome. And I like that they're both middle name Rose too. I think that's very cool. Yeah, it's funny because everyone growing up always called me Erica Rose. Because Eric has such a common name. So there was always one other Eric on my grade.

She was like I was Eric Rose. So I felt like with my kids, they just go by their first names because their first names are so cool. But I liked giving them my name is a middle name, especially because they both have different last names than each other. You know, that's a last name. And so I felt like that would be cool. I think that's super cool, actually. And that's a great way to think about it, too. I wasn't even thinking about the fact that they had different last name.

So that's beautiful. It ties them together even more, you know? Yeah, they're so close. And they're funny. And, of course, they're already fighting over clothes. Like, they can wear the same side. And they're four and a half and six and a half. And the other day, Holland was wearing husband's dress.

And Athens, like, that's mine, Holland. Like, they're so funny to me. Are they into fashion? Like, do they love, like, getting all dressed up and stuff? Yeah, especially my daughter, Holland. But she wants to dress like I do. So she's always looking for, like, fashion. But she's, like, obsessed with Taylor Swift.

I just took her to the concert. She loved it. but she's very into like fashion she's the one that made me get a tic-tok she's like mom we need to kick talk you guys do the dances all the stuff yeah yeah she's better at it than me um but it's fun they're that's awesome now you then from the show you jump in so you're you're practicing law now right everything's going great and then you get a call to go on below deck or do you call how does this happen um so how that happened um so how that happened is they were always the below deck people they I think they just somehow get your email from like I don't even know if they started emailing me and it was never a good time um to do it besides during 2020 because I did it twice during 2020 it was like we not a lot of us had a lot of things going on of my girlfriend yeah so it was kind of like girls trip it was a bunch of my friends that we had all lived in LA at the same time but now we're all all over the country so for once

in our lives, like we had a week off, basically, to go to Croatia and do this. And yeah, I own my own business, my own law firm. So I figured it's good marketing, but also just going to be a fun girl's trip. I hadn't done that since having kids. And I still haven't done it since then, literally. Oh, and since my husband didn't come the first time, it was fun. And he stayed home and watched the kids. So that was good.

And then he came back with me last two summers ago. And that was very, very chaotic. But, so I didn't really receive negativity when I went with my friends. But I was surprised at when my husband came with me that people were getting really nasty, like, on social media, just saying things. Like, people would message me being like, oh, girl, I hope you, like, get divorced. I feel so bad for you. Or, like, I feel bad. And I'm like, you guys, this is not real life.

He's a great dad. He's a really good husband. And it was hurtful to me that, I mean, he was choosing to act a little bit chaotic. in my opinion he was a theater major in college and I felt like it was he had never gotten to use that degree maybe this was his time yeah he's really a nice person for sure um it was definitely i didn't expect him to fight with like my hairdresser and just like all the things that happened it was a lot but like we've moved on from it but it's weird we know when they're re-airing it because we'll still he especially will get like random people hating on him on instagram and the yeah

codex airing so we're like i guess they're repeating episodes i don't know yeah here we go again well it says it was one of the highest rated episodes so it's probably why right yeah it was but it wasn't fun um now that i'm no one like talked badly about me as a lawyer i just got rising star super lawyer which is like a really big award but that's awesome thank you for family law yeah it's not like you're in a small town either you know yeah but i didn't like the negativity um my husband is like he's literally like the kind of person that's zero F's given like that's yeah look and that's like him basically so he really didn't care he was sad that I cared but I think I took it personally because I don't know why people were mentioning things about my kids when they weren't on the trip

so to say that that reflects on us or him as a parent I don't get a logical connection we were gone that time for three days and the kids weren't there and like how someone acts on a yacht you know with alcohol oh my god yeah it's not how they act at home with i think you know it's so funny because i'm not funny i shouldn't say that but it's so interesting to me it's almost like a like the biggest social science experiment in the world right like you go on these shows and and and and in the internet is harsh i mean trista and i we talked about a bunch but you came along when you start when you were on the bachelor i think was when it was really kind of starting off with with social media right and yeah we didn't really yeah we didn't

have it at all when we did the show. So like, you know, if I didn't stumble into a chat room, I thought everybody loved me. You know, God forbid, you know, my friends would be like, dude, you know. I think most people did like you from what I remember. Oh, thank you. You'd be surprised, though. I mean, I used to say it. I was like, I would, I tell my wife now, I'm always like, look, back in the day, I'm like, I would see 100 nice things about me. And then I'd see one negative thing. And I couldn't get out of my head for like weeks. You're right? And people don't realize the power that that stuff has on social media because we are real people and you know like you said your husband doesn't care i wish i had that power i i care too much you know in with me

and so i've just kind of like learned to tune it out i used to not block people on instagram when they would write something rude now i'm just like blocked blocked like i don't hear from that if someone's come to me with like constructive criticism that's positive i'll listen but if they're just going to be hateful body shaming whatever negative crap they're doing like i mean i was just block that person because I don't, I really don't have time for it anymore. And yeah, it does get in your psyche and it does affect you. And it, it means so toxic and hurtful. So I just no longer entertain it. Yeah. Well, you have to. I mean, especially when you, you know, you've got a successful career going. You have a good marriage. You have great kids. It's like, you know,

at the end of the day, you did a few things that were fun and you got to go on a, you know, a trip to Croatia, which is a dream of mine, by the way. You should do it. But not that. I mean, not in the boat go anyways yeah you know or just go without a yacht but it's a really beautiful country it really is now do you what is your uh is your heritage do you have any like is croatian part of you it was so funny because when i was in croatia so many people thought i was part pro yeah i'm like i could be i thought maybe you were because yeah you you resemble a friend of mine who she's just got these she's just very she's got a lot of the Croatian qualities and they're very beautiful people obviously, you know. Thank you. I mean, it was funny because several people

thought that, but I have like a lot of different ancestry. I've done my DNA. It's always interesting to find out new things. Yeah. But it's a bunch of stuff. In Croatia's not in the mix, huh? No, but it was part Swedish. There was some. My grandmother was born in like Turkey. And then I have like Polish, just like kind of everything. Yeah. Well, that's interesting. Good for you. That's pretty awesome. I mean, at the end of the day, I need to get to my, we did a 23 and me thing here on the show. Oh, yeah. And I was always told growing up that I was American Indian and Irish.

Okay. And nothing else, right? That was it. Just like basically these two, you know, main things. And I didn't know which one had a heavier lean. Like, I didn't know if I was more American Indian or more Irish. I assumed more Irish, but my dad was like really dark hair, dark skins. I'm like, maybe I'm American Indian Irish.

Eagle split. Come to find out. you know, my American Indianism is like this big. And, you know, my Irish, Scottish, German. Yeah, I'm a million other things, you know. So I'm like, oh, this isn't what I expected. I was, frankly, I was a little disappointed because I was kind of like, you know, I liked being, you know, in my mind being this exotic mix, you know,

didn't necessarily work out. So who knows. But it's still interesting. My husband didn't do his, but his sister did. And so they found out they have like part Pacific Islander, a lot. of Greek heritage, which I think is cool. So a lot of people always think he's Italian. But, yeah, it's funny when you do it.

And, you know, I mean, I hope it's accurate and they're not just making stuff up. But you never know. I hope so. Yeah, that would suck. That would suck really bad. Yeah. So now what's going on with you? Obviously, you're practicing law.

You're a rising star in your office there. I mean, and it's family law, right? Did your experiences influence that at all? Yes, they definitely. Well, kind of. So I was going to do entertainment. media but then I told one of my friends in LA I wanted to do family law and that is how I met my daughter Holland's father is that my friend Nikki said I know this guy he does high-end family

law I think he would like working with him not like yeah setting us up but um we were working together for a little bit and then you know I really learned a lot from him and then I think I was just really ready and so was he he has a child that's a now 20 year old son and And we were like Christmas shopping one day for gifts for his church. And he said the biggest thing he regrets was not having a second child. And I was 30, 31 at the time. And I was like, I was just at the moment like, okay. You know.

Yeah. One thing led to another. We were dating. And it's a very LA thing, I guess, to say like, let's just have a baby. Like, who cares about like getting married? You know, let's see what happened. Yeah. Right.

After a couple months, like it was faster than we thought. but we were trying it was not like oops no like this was like only time um but that i was like i'm ready to be a mom you know so we were pregnant we thought we moved in together like we kind of we thought about getting married tried that out i mean we didn't get married but thought about it took it seriously and it was so crazy when we went to jade and tanner's wedding together yeah that's where we met. That's where we met. I knew it. Yes. Yeah. That was such a nice wedding. It was. I felt like they were so in love. And that's kind of weird. But for me, that's when I knew, like, I don't think that my ex and I should get married because I wouldn't feel that way. And I don't

think he would either. Walking down the aisle like they did. And that's okay. It was a confusing time. I felt pressure like from my family, that kind of thing. And then on the show, Chris, or on Jane and Tanner's wedding the love special Chris was asking me like when are you guys going to get married because I was already like a little pregnant I was like oh we'll just have a shock on wedding like just saying all this stuff but um we took a few steps back and just um decided no you know what I mean and things happened and move back to Houston but now we get along really well as parents because that's the most important thing and yeah my daughter has two different dad like my husband and her dad, you know, and I think that it's definitely taken a while to get to that moment.

But so that's how I ended. So going through that experience, I guess, yeah, it strengthened me with family law because I have a lot of compassion for my clients and what they're through. I don't take it lightly. I'm an empath, so it's hard for me to not feel their feelings sometimes. And that's the biggest challenge. But I feel like based on my own experiences, I can tell them, like, I promise you, there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

like one day you guys will get along when they have kids together because they're going to have you know it might five years it might take six years but especially when you both have moved on you know we have then you can be good friends it might yeah you know as a little perspective right you just have a little time away yeah and is he still in L.A. or is he did he have to become Houston too in L.A but he was just here over the weekend my our daughter performs at a half time show at the Houston Dynamo game so that was so cute that's awesome and we go back and forth, you know, but she lives here, goes to school here, all that. And he and I agreed to everything, like, we're very much about stuff.

And I don't know, it's just, it was, it's been a process, but it's been interesting, but I feel like it's good. Yeah. So aside from that, I'm launching this thing called slaying down the law. It's not laying down the law. It's like slaying, you know, but it's going to be like an internet show so far. I took some footage at this event. I had a couple weeks ago, and it was kind of fun.

So we'll just see what happens with that because I feel like I always need a creative outlet. But for me to be in charge of it this time. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.

So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.

And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend, really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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That sounds exciting to me. You know, it is true. It's like once you go through this process and it's kind of funny, but one of the critiques that everyone always gets is like, oh, well, you know, you had a taste of it, you can't get away from it. But it is one of those things that is kind of like, it really does get your creative juices flowing. Yeah.

You know, you see a show and you're like, I could do that. I know. I can make something like that. So good for you. especially when it's something you're passionate about. Thank you. Yeah, it's good because I'm doing it with, well, my husband's going to be part of it. And then also my friend Brandon.

And he has like a really different perspective, a really good one. He's gotten me really involved in a lot of philanthropy. Like we went to a teen shelter recently for Easter and like handed out Easter baskets. But these teenagers, girls, they really touched my heart, you know. So I met one, gave her. Yeah. But the point is like he gets me. out there in the community doing like hands-on volunteering i feel like in a different way in other

communities that i wouldn't have so that's going to be part of it too um there's just so much but i feel like it's going to be cool and we're just yeah we shot some things at like my rising star super lawyer slash 40th birthday which is that's one thing they don't tell you is when you go on the bachelor and you're 23 like you don't care about your age being on the internet but yeah it even from 39 to 40 like 40 just looks a lot older you know yeah it does wait till you get 50 50 looks a lot older you're not there's no way you're not big right oh i'm gonna be 52 i'm gonna be 52 in a week i have no idea but happy almost terrified it's crazy but you do not look at thanks yeah that's good oh that's very sweet of you

you know it's uh i basically just soak my body in as much vodka as i can at all times and well it works i think having a four-year-old and the two-year-old has been uh helpful yeah Do you have girls or a boy and a girl? Do you have a daughter? I have both boys. No, both boys. And, you know, it's funny. I really thought our second son was going to be a girl.

Like, if I were a betting person at the time, I was like, we definitely are having a girl. And I was prepared. Like, I was excited, you know, a daddy's little girl. Like, you think about all that stuff. But I look at it now and I'm like, man, it's the perfect mix for my wife and I. These two little dudes are, they're rough and tumbled. They just, you know, they tear the house apart. They're going crazy all the time.

And it's funny, but my wife is like just a really great boy dad. She's kind of, she's a tomboy, you know. Yeah. She's just a really great boy dad. So we would love to have another one and try and hope for a girl. But I even said it to the other day, I'm like, I'm already going to be 52. Like I'm already going to be like the dude, you know, tee ball games and Walker. It's like, I want to be too old.

I'll be like 70, you know. My ex was, I think, 52. I don't know, he's 61 now, so whatever. He was older when we had our daughter, but I guess we were too old. It's true. But I'm done. Like, my husband, before we got married, he's like, I want one, has to be a girl. I thought my second would be a boy because I grew up brother, and that's just what I thought.

But I love having sisters, and I feel like for you having brothers, there's something cool about having a lifelong best friend that when you have a, whether when it's a different gender, you won't stay best friends for life, sadly, because eventually you guys, both get married. It's just different. I was always envious to my friends that had sisters and the bonds that they had. So I'm excited for my daughters to have that. Yeah. Your sons will be like like the same way. I think so. Do you ever think, I mean, do you and your husband, do you and Chuck ever talk

about having another one? Or you know you're done. Like the opposite. He's such a girl dad to the point where we even got a boy dog and he wasn't even viking with that. My dad had to adopt our dog. He has another boy dog we have a female cat who my husband loves but he's just like the biggest girl dad like he loves to come with us to cat like pedicures um he like the kids will be like let's play we have a basketball and at our house and the kids want to do that it's like kind of up to me he loves to watch sports he went to a and into watching sports but actively playing them is just not his thing right i think it's really good that we have girls that's awesome well you know what it's i mean i think

it's great. As long as it works for you guys, I mean, that's amazing, right? It's what it really matters. So at the end of the day, you know, I was going to ask you, like, when you look back at your time with the reality TV stuff, because obviously I know you've really moved into a different chapter of your life with your practice and everything. But do you ever think, like, if your daughters were to come to me and be like, you know, I think, oh my God, I want to be on this show. I mean, where's your head on that? I feel like I would, they're different people than me. But if they wanted to, I think they could hold their own. And I feel like I would, depending on this show if The Bachelor is still around.

I don't know if it will be, but maybe. And so I would, you know, I don't know. I feel like I would be a little concerned because I think I want the best in the world for my daughter. So I'd be like, no, you don't need to, like, compete over one guy. They need to compete over you. Right. I'm already teaching my daughter things like that.

She already has a boyfriend. And then the boyfriend, like, I don't know what she's thinking. He kissed her on the seat. Then she's like, he cheated on me. I'm like, well, you're in kindergarten. not get that serious over all this but i would let them do it i mean if they're like i'm going to go on naked and afraid i'd be like no yeah let's not do that but i think it's up you know i feel like if they wanted to they're like i think so highly of them i would give advice and guidance but i

wouldn't really stop them from doing anything well i think you'd probably have some really great advice to give too because you know you i mean it seems like you were cast as the villain because you him with a tiara right and it's like we had that we had that on russ's when we uh our season with trista when we were on the bachelorette a guy named russ showed up he was the only one at this time that showed up with a gift right he showed up with a box from tiffany's so we just thought he's a jackass right even though even though we just didn't think of it right so when you think of something you can get kind of pegged in a certain way but it's like from your experiences you probably you probably had a lot of the good but you also know how to navigate through the

bad. Yeah, and I think that I just have changed a lot as a person and I truly am just more down to earth now, honestly. I definitely think I was a little bit like spoiled and entitled back then to be honest. And then life has experiences that humble you when things happen. So I'm trying to raise my daughters to be not that way. You know what I mean? I want them. Yeah. Like realizing they realize how hard I work. And so I just feel like I'm trying to raise them differently and not complaining at my parents, but it was a different time. Um, so. I don't know, but yeah, I feel like it's part of it is like I was acting a little like much, but at the same time, part of it had to be true. You know what I mean?

Like it had to be a personality at the same. Well, I mean, we didn't even talk about you, but you also ended up on that kind of intervention show that you were cut off, right? I mean, there was that show. That was like really life changing to the point where like they actually convinced us that if we didn't graduate from this program that we would remain cut off. And I think we wanted to believe it, but somehow we really did believe it because they played messages from our parents. And then we were like so concerned about graduating that program. And I was so happy when I graduated.

My mom came out. I was so mad at my dad because I'm like, you didn't come to my graduation of the show. But it was, I mean, I also made a lifelong friend on that. My friend Jess, she was on the first below deck trip with me. But that was like a really meaningful experience. It was kind of like therapy. I don't really even know what it was. We had a life coach.

It's pretty amazing. And I think that it was good for us. We had to actually live on a budget. There was one week. My friends and I were like, do we want cheez-its or boxed wine? Like at the grocery store. And we were like, can we afford both chees-its and boxed wine? And then after that, like, box wine is my thing.

Like, I'd show up to parties thinking it was like really cool. It's like bring box wine. Oh, my God. That's awesome. But yeah, that show was really, it was life-changing. felt like for sure yeah so you did get something out of this whole experience well well i love checking in with you and thank you so much for for coming on the show and for talking to me today and letting us know where you're at i mean i it's kind of funny i was thinking like well there's no way

that you know the erika rose was on an o g style season and then i started looking i'm like oh my god yes she was i know i was 23 now i'm 40 craziness right it is crazy well you don't you don't look 40 I mean, and I'm so glad for all your success and for the beautiful kids and your wonderful marriage and keep up the good work. And thank you so much for joining us on Almost Famous, the OGs. I appreciate it. Thanks, Bob. All right. Take care, Erica.

So there you go, guys. Erica Rose. I love checking in with where she's at. It's a great interview. Very, very sharing and very telling. She's had a lot of success since the show. So we appreciate you guys listening in. And Trista, I miss you at this one, but hopefully we can.

have you back up and running full steam on the next one so we can present together. All right, guys, thank you so much for listening. Make sure you go check us out. We will be back up with more episodes real soon. We got some great stuff lined up. Just go to the almost underscore famous podcast on Instagram. And you can check out everything we've been doing so far. And make sure you order us up wherever a podcast can be ordered.

I don't normally do this part of the show. This is where Trista comes in. So I hope I got it right. But thank you guys so much for listening. And we'll see you next time. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

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