The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OG: The Limos Have Arrived

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

Now it’s Bob Guiney’s turn in the hot seat, as the OGs look back on his season as The Bachelor from 2003! Hear Bob and Trista’s honest reactions to watching the limo arrivals and hear some behind the scenes secrets that haven’t been revealed in almost 20 years! And, we connect with 2 cast members from Bob’s season as he shares a shocking regret from night one.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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To hear this podcast and more, open your free IHeartRadio app. Search all the smoke and listen now. This is the Almost Famous Podcast with IHeartRadio. And welcome to Almost Famous The OGs with your hosts. The OGs, Trista Sutter. And me, Bob Guinea. Welcome to our show this week. I just want to say something, Trista.

So last week, I loved it because we talked all about you, all about your show. And, you know, and I even thought a few times, I'm like, gosh, you know, Trista, I don't understand why she's like, you know, didn't want us to watch it. Didn't want it wasn't, you know, wasn't. And so then this week, I so feel your pain right now, my friend. And I am so sorry. So sorry that I was like, come on, Trista, have some fun with this. Because I didn't have any fun watching myself. No, it is so cringy.

It's like when you hear your voice on a voicemail or any interview, you know, when you first started doing stuff in the media. Well, you were a singer, so maybe that doesn't affect you. But I feel like I hated listening to me. I hated watching myself and all the faces I made and what I said and so, yeah, I'm so glad that you finally understand since last week. I mean, it hasn't been a long time. But we got to watch Bob's season And now we get to pick it apart Like we did mine last week

So I've got to tell you this So I've been very insulated Right because You know When my season first aired For the premiere episode They had Like this party thing that we did for it

Right and we were all together for that And it was a lot of talking And I don't remember I don't really remember hearing myself that much and I really enjoyed it then way more than this time when I had to hear myself and first of all

I don't know if I I mean do I sound like that is that what I really sound like when I talk and then do I really giggle all the time incessantly for no reason like I was watching it going and then what the hell was going on

with my hair like it literally I had this big like curly cue section that hung down and I'm like and then I also have to tell you this part people you know when I would do all the interviews after being on your season. And people would always say, oh, yeah, Funny Bob.

We love Funny Bob. I never heard myself called Fat Bob until I watched the show last night. I'm like, what the hell is that? Wait, remind me, when did that? Did you call yourself Fat Bob? I said it all the time. I would always go, is that a fat joke? Oh, that's what I thought.

But, you know, but it was so funny because Chris Harrison in one of his intros for me, he was like, you know, and you know, the America responded in just crazy, format. At one point I'm like, they're selling this awfully hard. He's like, you know, and he's like, you know, and I mean, he was fat Bob and now he's lean and mean, loving Bob. I'm like, what? Oh. Oh, no. So I'm going to have to call Harrison about that too. Yeah, let's get him on the show next. Give him a little chat him up. But it was uncomfortable as hell. So I know, I know what you mean. I was just going, why would I say that? Why did I do that, you know? I know. Oh, brutal. And my memory was so different. So different. Yeah, was it? Well, because, you know, I've never, I mean, this might be a terrible thing to admit right now, but I've never watched the season myself. That's not a terrible thing to admit, I don't think. Since the season.

Like, I remember, you know. And you just said, you watched it at, did you watch it at a party? So there were a bunch of people around. Yes. Well, I remember one of my favorite memories, and I did pop up last night when I was watching the episode, one of the favorite things that I said. And thankfully, I was with Andrew Firestone when I said this, or when we both watched it. Because I don't even remember saying it.

And I was like, I was like pouring out some wine to my family at the dinner table. And I'm like, and this is from the guinea stone vineyards. And I remember sitting with Andrew. We were in New York. And he looked at me. He goes, really, bro. And I love Andrew. So I was like, dude, I don't even remember saying that.

So that popped up last night. And I thought that was pretty funny. But other than that, I was incredibly uncomfortable. Wow. I know. I feel your pain. I do. It is not like it was, especially for me, obviously in how it ended.

up. It was one of the best times of my life because I met Ryan. But it was so cringy. I just, I, ugh, I hated watching it back. So, okay, so tell us, how did you feel? Like, obviously, we went from my season where we were, we were good friends. We had a connection, but obviously, I feel like our connection was and still is great friends. And so you went from that experience, and you had the experience of having all the cameras in your face and, you know, all of that to then being the lead. And I, when you said, I don't like hurting people's feelings, do you remember I cried the first night, the first night of my, I felt the exact same way, especially the first night because I was like, I don't even know these guys and I'm sending them home, you know, based on maybe one conversation, if that. So how did you feel? Maybe.

Exactly. So how did you feel going into it? Well, I remember you and I talked, obviously, when they, you know, I think you might remember this. But when they first asked me to do that bachelor, I was kind of like, no, I don't think, I think I'm okay, you know. And I really loved being, and I used to say it all the time. I was like, I was the lovable loser from Trista Seas, and this is kind of fun. You know, everywhere I go, they're like, oh, my God, we love you, you know. I can't do anything wrong, you know.

But then, you know, then you start thinking about it. Like, what if I would miss this opportunity to meet someone that potentially could be my soulmate, you know? And obviously, the show. worked out differently for me than it did for you, but I definitely met some really amazing women. And I hate to even use the word amazing in any aspect of my life anymore because we use it so much on the show. But yeah, the biggest concern for me was to be, I just, I hate hurting people's feelings. And I think I kind of numbed myself to it a little bit over the years. Like, I would make fun of it. And I'd go, oh, yeah, you could have a monkey handing out flowers and the

girls would cry. That, you know, that made me feel better about myself having to send someone home. because, but in truth, it was like, you know, watching the show last night, I even thought to myself, I'm like, God, I wish I would have known all the nice things that these women said about me before they showed up because I would have maybe, you know, because I didn't get to talk to everyone. In fact, we're going to have a guest on the show today that I don't even think I got to talk to that night. And it's pretty crazy because, you know, you don't realize what amazing people you might miss out on meeting, even to make friends with necessarily, you know, or love or whatever will come from it, but I was super bummed, you know, to be the bachelor in that situation because

I remember thinking there's nothing anyone's done wrong here. And they're going to, they're going to go home thinking that they didn't do something right enough, even if it weren't, even if they didn't feel anything for me necessarily, just to remain on the show or to get to have that experience. And I just felt terrible. And I mean, I did throughout the entire season. Like every time a rose ceremony came up, I was less excited, which is probably a terrible thing to say about, I was less excited about the flowers I was given out, or I shouldn't say less, but I was probably equally as excited about the flowers I was given out as I was really upset and sad about the ones I wasn't giving out.

Oh, I know that. I totally understand where you're coming from there. It is definitely a hard balance, I feel like for the leads. And especially, I feel like, okay, so my season, I think probably the demographic of people who watch the show is a way bigger number of women, right? So the men, especially, okay, so on my show, the men are going to come on the show and be the, the bachelors, if you will, for the bachelorette. But a lot of them, because it had just started, may not have ever seen the show or even heard of it, including Ryan. But your season, holy cow, these women came in, like, infatuated with you.

They were, like, gun in for you. I mean, especially one of our guests who's going to be on. coming up really soon. I'm excited to talk to her. But wow, I mean, that I think was different in that they were really excited. So the pressure, I think, was even greater for you because they were really expecting to, you know, formulate this intense relationship. Immediate, too. And it was going to be, boom, you know.

And, yeah, you know, I'll never forget as the first limo was pulling up. And, you know, you're already nervous enough as it is. is. I don't know if you saw this when we were watching it, but they started chanting my name from inside the limo. And I can hear it as it turned the corner. And part of me was like, oh, my God, this is awesome. And then as the door opened, I felt so much pressure. I remember going, like, oh, my God, what if I'm not good enough for them? You know, like, what if they look, like, get out of the car and they're like, oh, you know, or if I'm talking to them and they're like, oh, I expected so much more, you know, or whatever, because at that point, I've been kind

to over, I've been oversaturated at that point, you know, where I was, I had been on Oprah a bunch in between your show and, and, and it was like, you know, they saw just like clips of me and snippets, you know, and, um, well, if Oprah loves him, he must be great, you know, it was kind of like, I heard a couple people say that. And, but I remember thinking to myself, like, what if I'm not good enough, you know? And they're like, so they have these expectations. What if I can't fulfill them? And up until that point, I had zero self-doubt. And then like, really the first door of the limo opens and I'm like, oh my God. You know? I started thinking, overthinking, you know.

Oh, I tend to do that a lot in my life. Do you think was Chris a big help when it came to that self-doubt? Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, there's a few, there's several moments in the show that, you know, because as you know, going through the experience the first time, you do create friendships with, even though you're not supposed to, you know, necessarily create friendships with the producers and with the host and everything else you do. Oh, I did.

And, you know, Chris is one of those guys that he was there and he was a great sounding board. he had been there already at that point I was what the the fourth bachelor but your show had gone too so this was technically the fifth season and you know he had great advice for me

he's like don't get in your own head just relax enjoy yourself you know and he's like let yourself be yourself because that's what everyone is here for they like you they like who you are you know he gave me a lot of confidence

in those moments where I think I may not have been feeling as confident as I would have liked to have portrayed yeah I'm sure I think all of us do it every lead. I can't imagine that anyone has not had any self-doubt going in. But that, that had got, had to have been hard because the girls were just coming in hot. You know, they were really, really jones in for some Bob Ginnie. Okay. So how did you feel about your mom being there? I loved the fact that they brought your mom. I know you were horrified, probably. You'll, you can tell, you can talk to us about that. But,

I think they should do it again. I think they need to do that to, like, change things up because I thought it was great that, you know, the girls then were probably on their best behavior. Yeah. You know, once she showed up and they wanted to impress her or maybe more than you even. So how did you feel when your mom showed up? Well, you know, I think I had made it pretty clear when I was on your season and then also in the subsequent interviews thereafter. excuse me, that, you know, I'm a very big family person, you know, like I love my family and I love, you know, and now that I've built my own family, I love being closer to my family.

I relocated back to Michigan to be closer to my mom and dad because they're, they're getting up there in years and then I lost my dad last year, so I thank God that I did that. But it was one of those things having my mom come on, you know, that everyone kind of knew I was a mama's boy and, you know, here she comes. And, you know, I mean, Nora was in her element. Let's just say that. She came in. She's like, you know, the bell of the ball.

Hello, everyone. You know, and I was like watching her work the room and I'm just like, oh. And part of me like was super excited about it because, you know, it gave people an opportunity to get a little more of a glimpse into who I really am and not just what they had seen on TV and stuff. And so that was really awesome. And then it was actually kind of comforting too, you know, because I like to tease my mom quite a bit. And so to have my mom there and be able to kind of tease with her and, you know, you know, just kind of watch her. I could tell right away that she was gravitating to certain people. And, you know, it was,

and my mom, to a degree. It also was like some people, you know, here's where it kind of worked against me was my mom would talk to some people that, that I never got to talk to you. And so my mom would be like, oh, I really like so and so. And I'm like, I didn't even get to talk to them other than when I first met them. And so, you know, and I think like you said, you know, knowing that it was me before anyone got there, that they kind of came in and it was like, we sort of, it was almost like we picked up, like, everyone that was there that night,

it was like our third day. Do you know what I mean? Like, I didn't have to go through a lot of the pleasantries of, you know, explaining who I am and all that kind of say. It was like, boom, we were at this next level. And so I really, I really did sincerely have, I mean, I would say probably 18 of the 25 women that I talked to. I really was like, oh my God, I can't send any of them home. Like, what am I going to do? I like all of them. And, you know, And so I was really in that pickle of, you know, I will say this, I knew right when the twins got out of the car, I'm like, I'm either keeping them both or cutting them both. I'm not playing this game.

I can't even imagine. Right. I know. I was like, this is not happening. So that was right away. And then I never actually really got to talk to them either. And then, you know, there were, yeah, there were quite a few people that I felt like, man, I would have liked to have more time with them, you know, like, and get to know them better.

Like, I remember Shea, the firefighter that was on the show. Oh, yes, I was going to ask you about her. Yeah, I was literally going to ask you if, if you had any regrets about her. Because I was like, she's so cute and what a great job. Yeah, you did. I really did. Do you know I actually, so this is a little behind the scenes for everyone. I actually went to the producers and I was like, man, I'm having, I'm having second thoughts.

I sent this girl Shay home who was a firefighter. I never got to talk to her. Yeah. But I was trying to get to her all night. And I kept going in different directions. And I'm like, what if we, you know, what if we brought her back? And like said, you know, hey, she'd come back. And I go, and then like that would be like the, you know, and they were like, that's not how the show works.

We're not doing that. You know, it was very rigid when you and I did it. Right. Years later, they'd be like, awesome idea. We'll have her crash a date, you know. Like they do that now all the time. But back then it wasn't going to happen. And I thought that way about her.

And I actually thought that way about one of our guests who will be on in just a few minutes who I hardly got to talk to. But I remember thinking. like, you know, I feel like if I could bring back one or two people, those would be the one. And, you know, but they, they didn't give me that opportunity. So, you know, you kind of go with what you're given. Yeah. Because you're right. They were very rigid.

I remember explaining the show to people and being like, okay, so you start with 25 guys and then you go down to 15 and then it's 10. And then it's, you know, and it was very like regimented or rigid. And now it's like you have no idea how many roses they're going to give. how many people are going to stay until they're like, okay, well, we have two more roses left or whatever. Yeah, you're right.

And I think now they're like, this is it. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I mean, I've heard the comment more than once when Chris was hosting, and then I did watch the first episode when Jesse was hosting too. And it was kind of like,

well, and when the girl stepped in, too, when Tasha and Caitlin stepped in, it was kind of like, well, it's your show. You know, how many roses do you want tonight? We weren't doing that. You know, we were, like you said, very regimented. I remember when I was,

when I left on your season with Jamie, when you, when we didn't get the rose that night, I believe you went, was that from eight, 10? It was from eight to four. Yeah, like the next day was the hometown dates. And I remember thinking, you know, wow, I would love Trista to meet my family. And it would be amazing, you know, but then I got so nervous, you know, because I was divorced. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know how I feel right now. Like, am I the right guy for her? You know, and so it was so awesome when you're at that point in the show. Now, it's not that awesome when you're in your situation or me watching myself in that situation last night remembering oh god just just flashing back to the time on the show how completely stressed out

it was i mean yeah yeah no i it's impossible to go to that thing and take it lightly if if someone were to go to that thing and take it lightly they are a complete idiot because you are really playing with people's emotions and feelings and oh man you know it's not going to work if they're taking it lightly but you have to really have your head in the game and know how who you are, know what you're looking for, and be serious about it, and be in the moment. So, yeah, if you're taking it lightly, it is most definitely not going to work. It will end up. Even though it doesn't end up, you know, I just saw there have been these interviews because

it's like the 20th anniversary coming up. The news media has been covering it and they've been interviewing, you know, the people, the successful relationships from the show. And I remember reading recently about the percentage. you know, of how many people work out compared to how many people or relationships don't from Bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise, all of them. And, you know, the percentage is pretty low. But I want to turn around and say, but you know what?

So is the percentage in real life. Like how many people do you actually date in your dating life until you meet the person that you spend the rest of your life with? Well, especially you count like casual dates, you know, off. friends setting you up and you're bowling you know there's like a million different types of interactions you can have with people and you're right i mean i get it you're right the numbers aren't great but the so there's this saying about um i i don't want to offend anyone but a girlfriend of mine a friend of mine who's a girl not a girlfriend yeah a friend of mine who's a girl said this

saying to me once about anchorage alaska and i love anchorage alaska for all your alaskans who might be tuning in today uh but i remember saying to her one night and she's a real pretty girl and she works there in Anchorage and I was like, God, and she's single, you know? And I was like, this doesn't make sense to me. Like, you're so pretty and you're so successful. I mean, do you not want to be in a relationship? Because that makes sense if that's the case. But I'm like everywhere we go, there's like 90 guys to one girl. And she goes, oh yeah, that's very right. That's very true. The odds, the odds are good. And the goods are odd. And I thought it was so funny. I've never heard that saying before. And so it just truly struck me as funny. But I started thinking

about it like you said you know like the relationships that yeah there there are a few relationships that that seem to go like work out and where they get married and everything but other than one there haven't been any knock on wood of those relationships that haven't stayed together so you know those relationships have really stood the test of time from the from the show too and I think yeah you know I think there's definitely a formula for that um I think it's a mental formula that the couples that get together at the end have to have being on completely lockstep with to understand, you know, we got to protect this thing and we don't care. You know, we're not going to do this, this and this. We're going to do this, right? And, you know, that's a big thing. And I think it's something to

be very proud of because there aren't a ton of them that come out and stand the test of time and yourselves, Sean and Catherine. And you're right. Like expanding the shows really kind of helped that. Like, you know, Jane Tanner, you know, I mean, there's a lot of those relationships that came off of different variations of the show, too. Yeah. No, I agree. I feel very lucky, obviously, that I met Ryan and we have been able to be successful. But I think a lot of things go into making a relationship successful.

And, you know, we have our off days, as does everybody. We have our great days. And I think it's just a matter of, you know, all of the things that they talk about in every single self-help marriage book relationship book there is just you know forgiveness and and friendship and um trust and communication and all the all the core things you know like they really um it's it's what you do we've always said that it's what you do with your relationship after the show yeah that matters because yes they introduced us and we are very grateful for that but after the show we've put in a lot of hard work and dedication yeah

Completely is on you. And sometimes just one person isn't, they realize that they're not ready or they realize that they learn something about the other person that is not in sync with what they're looking for. Whatever happens. I mean, life happens. You go back to work and the work stress and the friends stress and the family stress. Let's not kid ourselves.

Coming off of a show like this where your private jets everywhere, right? You're taking the private jet everywhere you want to go. You're, you know, flying into a volcano. you know, in a helicopter, you're doing all this great stuff. And then it's like, okay, well, my car's been in the shop for two weeks. Right. You know, I'm going back to my studio apartment or whatever. You know, there is a change that comes from that.

And even though, I mean, you know, like I was watching the show last night, just kind of playing it back in my mind how I was so, like, floored with the look of the mansion, right? When I, like, walked up to it. And you remember the mansion I'm talking about. It's not the cool one that everyone sees nowadays. and I remember going, oh, my God, this place is awesome. And then I remember having to ask if we could clean the pool so I could swim in it because it was like so green with algae.

And they were like, yeah, I might take a day or two. You know, and then my room, and I used to laugh about the room that we had because we had the same room, you know, when we filmed our different shows. And he's like, isn't it weird that the closet is like a curtain? Like you're in this, you know, a million dollar house. It's like, yeah, no doubt. And then, like, the kitchen, you know, the sink didn't work. You're like, oh, maybe we could.

Totally. They're like, you know, you use the sink right here in the bathroom off the side. I'm like, what? You know, it was just kind of crazy. So I just thought, I don't know, it's so funny, you know, looking back on it and, you know, remembering that whole thing. So. Okay. So I am really interested to get to our first guest because she is one that you didn't have a lot of time with.

But yet you have said that you reconnected with. her later in life. I'll tell, I'll let you tell that story. But let's take a break and then we'll bring on our first guest. Sounds great. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't is a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally

inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the Okay Storytime Podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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Say hi to your ex-boyfriend. Bob can you. Hi, Julie. Bobby. How are you, darling? I am great. You look beautiful as always. Thank you. Thank you. I'm on my, I'm on a break from at mom at work right now. Yes. I snuck away. Well, thank you for sneaking away. Of course. Thank you. I know you're probably delivering all the pressing news and weather and traffic and everything else that you do. So I was telling this story about when we were talking about bringing on guests from our season. And I said, you know, I want to bring on someone who I said, we have the most unique relationship of

Most people I know from this whole franchise, especially if they were on the same season together, which was Julie was on my season and she was, she was someone who I hardly got to talk to the first night. I think you talked to my mom, actually, more than you talked to me. Probably, yeah. I didn't get to talk to you hardly at all. And I don't know if you know this part. I know I've told you this, but there was a point in what would have been the next, I guess theoretically the next episode. But there was a point where I went to the producer. I said, you know, if I could have a golden rose or something, I'd love to. I thought about it.

I'm like, I'd like, I'd like to bring back Julie and Shea, because I never got to talk to either. Shea was the firefighter. And I'm like, I never got to talk to them very much. If I found them both attractive and the 30 seconds that I got to speak to each of them. I was like having a nice conversation. And Julie, you know, Julie and I, obviously, she went home the first night. We didn't get to spend any more time together. And then randomly, a few. few years later, I'm at the Kentucky Derby, which has become an annual thing. And one of the first people I'm sitting there with is Julie Smith. And Julie's from Louisville, and Julie is a, you know, she's always done the red carpet

stuff there. She does a ton of interviews there. She's been on a couple of other TV shows there before she relocated, which I'll let her tell her own story there. But she became one of my favorite people in the world. And I love, I love our friendship. I love who you are. love how our friendship has grown over 20 years to be, you know, I mean, we, we actually might be

next to Tristan Ryan, the longest relationship to come out of the national. I don't know. That's a good point. I never thought about it that way, but you're right. You're absolutely right. I didn't either until I just said that. But I remember Julie, Julie came up to me one year. We knew this story, but I don't think the newspaper is anything new. And Julie came out to me one year with a rose. Remember? Do you? And we. Well, okay, hold on. So, Oh, boy. Well, no, I had it. I think I know what you're talking about.

You're talking about it was at a gifting suite, right? Yes, yes. But here's what I, before that even, I don't know if you remember, but the very first time after the whole Bachelor and a few years later at the Derby, the first time we even spoke, reconnected, and really got introduced properly. We were actually at the track at Churchill Downs, and I forget what Hubbub was going on. But for those who don't know, the Kentucky Derby is also called the Run for the Roses. The winning horse gets a huge, beautiful rose garland. So if you go to Louisville, anywhere you are, there's just a giant bouquet of red roses everywhere.

Everywhere. So they're all over the place. So the first time we met, actually, Bob just yanks one of them out of one of these decorations. And he walks up behind me. He said, I think I owe you this. Yes. I do remember that, actually. That's the first time we ever spoke.

That is the first time. I loved it. And it was true because, you know, I mean, I think at the end of the day, I think we've proven you and I, we've always gotten along great. And it's such a bummer we didn't get to meet. But that's a prime example of, you know, Tristan and I were talking about some of the pressures you feel when you're the bachelor person. Like when she has a bachelor, me as a bachelor, is like, oh, my God, what if I miss that person? What if I didn't get to talk to the person that's the right person, you know? And it's crazy because you go through that experience and you literally live with so much self-doubt, especially in the early episodes, because,

you don't know any right it's like well and it was season four so not only was episode one but the whole thing was still so new and yeah you know i feel like somebody can go on that show now and they have so much content to research you know the most research i did was to watch the previous season to see what to pack to wear yeah really that was right no yeah so how was your experience on the show did you tell us about tell us about your experience on the show well um and And Bob, we've told these stories a hundred times, but sometimes something new may pop up. But for me, it was definitely one of those. I literally tripped and fell into it.

They, at the time, I don't know how long they did this. But, you know, they always had people from across the country sending in at that time, Bob, during our season, it was VHS tapes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. Same thing. They're like VHSA. Right. Right.

But I didn't do that, but they had all that. but they used to take something called the love bus around the country. Were you all aware of this? No. I knew that they went to different places, but I didn't know it had a name, the love bus for real? There was a giant tricked out like van.

And these, do you all remember Duran Ophir, I think is how you say his name? No. He was a- I remember Duran. Yeah, he was one of the casting guys. And long story short, they drove this thing around the country.

And what they told me was they wanted to, when they came to Louisville, Kentucky, they had started to try to get a little more into Middle America and the South. They had exhausted the beach towns and the big cities and they wanted, quote, unquote, more real. Not to say that others aren't, but that's what they were getting that. But anyway, I stumbled into it. I wasn't going to this giant cattle call. I was out celebrating a birthday with a friend and those guys were at the same bar having a drink.

And so many women had clamored around them when they found out who they were. They said, hey, let's let's. turn the lights on and turn the cameras on now and start doing so that's actually you know what I do remember you telling me that that they did that when you were out and that is crazy that is so funny I'm convinced that what sort of I guess grabbed the producers and is because I wasn't there to audition or to answer the right questions I was celebrating birthday so I was a good two glasses of wine in by the time they put the camera on me and that's a fun Julie yeah yeah which I think is what they thought they were going to continue to get throughout the show.

Right. And I'm so sad they didn't. So did Bob send you home? And I'm sorry, Bob. I know this probably breaks your heart. But he sent you home the first night, right? He did. And he's right.

We barely got to talk. I remember walking down some little pathway and da-da-da before they send somebody in. I was going to say someone interrupted us. Yeah. I remember. Am I allowed to spill beans here? Is that a-oh? Yes.

Spill away. We're way past our contract. That's what I thought. Yeah, exactly. Pull that thing back up again. But yeah, they definitely are coming up. Have you talked to Bob yet? No, not yet.

He's talking to someone. We'll go in and up that I said, don't really want to do that. That's not what I would normally do. And they nudge. And they said, well, okay, you know, it's on you. You might, you know, that kind of thing. So someone interrupted us. But I just remember, I mean, I was having a great time.

The little cocktail party, the girls were so great. Kelly Joe's coming on after me. I spent 50% of my time laughing at her. She just, I mean, just listening to her laugh made me laugh. So I was having a ball. But Bob was just a flash. Like, I barely saw him. And I did.

I think our episode one, you cratch me something really cheesy. I think I said, your mom asked me, how do I like the Midwest? And I said something about being a wimp in the cold, but I can handle it. Yes. I remember. Yes. Right. I think that's a great answer.

That's a great answer. It is. It's what I would have said. It's true. It's right. Julie, I did like, I think you might have gone out the night before partying because your voice was a little scratchy. I didn't. So you've seen that link that just went out, didn't you? No, you told me about it that, that Lindsay put that out there.

But Trista and I, we got a little summary to watch, you know, just to remind ourselves. And your voice sounds totally different. I have a very good point. I don't know at that time. Very likely. I mean, we had been, but they have us on lockdown, you know, basically, a quarantine in a hotel. So I know it wasn't the night before. But not that they wouldn't have brought you wine if you asked, you know, yeah, for sure.

Couple dollars. I was really hoarse, though. Yeah, when I watched it back, I went, what was wrong with me? But, you know, that could have been left over from a few days prior in Louisville because I had the time and energy to be a responsible adult during the week of my full-time job. And I still had time and energy on the weekend. Yeah. So what does your life look like now? You're obviously, you're a TV host. Yeah. And that didn't happen for a few years later. So at the time, I'm trying to, I think they had sales representative down, which I was. I was in pharmaceutical sales at the time that we filmed The Bachelor. And a few years later, things just very slowly. It was like a slow drip. So you go back home, of course, and everybody's very excited. So girl that was on The Bachelor and you're, and I'm still very. not weirded out, but it was just, I was like, if they only knew how normal, this, I mean, yeah, I was on The Bachelor, but outside of that, you and I are exactly the same, but it was fun because I enjoyed people so much. So I loved chatting it up with new people and that, and that went on for a while. And then so I was asked to be a guest on a local talk show to promote a charity event. I think it was, a different one than Bob and I met at. But I went on that show as a guest and had a black show. last. And again, I'm in sales at the time, but it was one of those things. People always asked me,

have you ever considered news or hosting? And I said, no, that wasn't my, you know, what I studied. And this host calls me back a week later and says, have you ever thought about doing this? And I said, all right, what's going on here? There's something I need to look into. And before I knew it, I was his co-host on a live one-hour talk show. No experience. I mean, no problem talking, clearly. But then you went, you were doing the red carpet interviews and everything else. And then, you know, Julie's going to sell this short, but she's, she really is a go-getter. And she put together her stuff and started networking. And, but it was always pretty organic.

And then she ended up landing a huge job. I mean, you had to relocate and everything. Yeah, I was, I spent three years out in L.A. And didn't even know until halfway through my time there that Bob lived out. I mean, we were friends at this point. I just didn't know where in L.A. We would see each other every year in Louisville at the Derby. And then we find out we were like literally three miles away from each other in L.A.

Didn't I've never got together in L.A. That's what you call. That's what you call. And my wife loves Julie. So like she would have loved for us to get together, you know. It's just great. Tell Jeff, hello, by the way. And congratulations to both of you.

I've just, I can go down that rabbit hole. I'll give you a call later to talk about all that. But I am just. Thank you so much. Oh, I've seen the pictures and just. Thanks. He's a cute. He doesn't deserve it.

Thank you, Dahl. We love you. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks for talking to us. Of course. You know, Julie Smith, the Golden Rose that got away. You know, that's what happens. Thanks, Julie. But I've traded that for every year now in Louisville, Kentucky. That's right. That's right. That's right. Love you, Jules. Love you. Great to meet you, Chista. Nice to meet you. Thanks for so much for joining us. This is Kelly Joe. You got it. Yeah. Bye-bye. Isn't she great? Oh, my God.

She's awesome. Oh, my gosh. Now I, you know, we, we saw each other, I think, the first year after the show at Derby. Yeah. And then, and then I might have gone another time, so maybe two times. But gosh, I need to get back there. I know how much fun that is and I know how much you love it. Well, it falls on my birthday every year.

So it's like a, it's like a milestone for me. Natural. You know, started, you know, this group of friends with which Julia is a part of. And we just started, you know, spending this time. time together. And now it's become like a family. And so... I love it. Yeah, it's so nice. So it's great. It's been a lot of fun over the years. And obviously, you know, The Bachelor helped create a really wonderful friendship there. So isn't that nice? That's true. Yes. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.

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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club As a part of the Marco Tura Podcast Network Available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth?

Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration. also known as boot camps are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months.

The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so next, I'm so excited to talk to her. It's been, well, we're friends on Facebook still. I think we connected at one of those, when a reunion or something. But I'm so excited.

She mentioned Kelly Joe, and if you all go back and watch Bob's first episode, Kelly Joe is not hard to distinguish. She's the one with the laugh. There she is. Oh, my God. You're getting your hair done. She's getting her hair done. She's like, I'll do this, but I'm not going to cancel my appointment.

No, I have a best friend's wedding where I have to look really good, you guys. So this is happening. You already look great. You already look amazing. So good to see. my gosh, I cannot believe you have foils in your hair. Of course you have poils in your hair. So good.

Hey, you want me? I show up. Look at this. That's right. Look at this. I love it. Kelly Joe, Julie Smith was just on with us and she was sending her love. I love her so much.

And Kelly, so yesterday I reached out to Kelly Joe and we're, you know, just kind of chatting and Kelly Joe's like, well, listen, I mean, I'll come on, but I got a hair appointment. And so, you know, and I'm like, well, then take your cell phone. don't take your laptop it'd be too cumbersome she's like you got it yeah um and did you tell anyone else how you came up on my phone i did not i was going to save that for you tell me this is so funny you guys so talk about o g kind of stuff we he messages me and he's like kelly joe it's bob and i was like what his name came up as sarah b guinea montes like full on pseudon name that i probably was trying to hide back in the day if he text me late night. No joke. That is hysterical.

What's Montess for? It's almost very Bridgerton, I guess, but I don't know why Montess. I think because I used to work at a Montessori back then, I have no idea. I have no, honestly, no clue. But why would I call you Sarah? That is so funny. And then it was Sarah, it didn't even have an H. I was Sarah without an H. And I'm like, no. I think. I think I would be Sarah with an age. But you would, okay. You look like you'd have an age, maybe. I feel like I have an age.

You know, just a little extra. Ridiculous. But this is, because if we communicated, it was now through social media. And I didn't even remember having his cell phone. Yeah. That is so funny. I know. We've talked a couple times over the years.

It's always been great. But it's always, you're right. It's always been through Facebook or Instagram or whatever. So, yeah, that is so funny. So wait, what I need to know is since you have his phone number in there and you have like a fake name for him, were you guys talking after the show like when you were with Estella, Bob? No. I mean, I think you connected.

I don't think so. I mean, I don't recall that. I think we chatted. I remember chatting. Well, actually, the number you have for me, though. The number you have for me is a wrong, is not the number I had that. Oh, that's weird. Well, but, but, okay.

So during our season. how we had to call each other Ryan and I they gave us a number to call and then it patched us through so it was a fake number like they were so scared Did you guys have code names Trista

because we had code names? Of course we did oh yes we had code names well yours was Sarah yeah yours was Sarah I was Sarah B. Montas apparently yeah because that wasn't my phone number

back then so I didn't have that that phone number that the producers gave you that it would patch you through or whatever to... I wonder. To connect.

I remember talking to Bob right after when they had originally cast me as the Bachelorette. And you were like, Kel, you should do it. This is, it's worth it. And I was like, it's worth it. They're not even going to pay me.

And you were like, all right, we need to have the discussion. I remember you helping me through like the thought process. But then I think they did like a demo, a demographic. And they did a poll. and they didn't believe that a 23-year-old

could carry into having a relationship. So that's when they cast Meredith. Yeah. And you guys were friends. It looked like, so when you watch, we watched this first episode, just to redo it. Which, by the way, my hair, Kelly Joe,

my hair looks bananas. What the hell was going? Even though mine looks crazy now. Mine matched yours, Bob. I think that's why they kind of tear it together. There was a lot of things. Curly Jerry curl. Yeah, and it's, by the way,

mine wasn't an Ogilvie home perm. That's all natch. It was all, you know. I mean, you can see the frizz going on right here. Oh, girlfriend. I've got some. Kelly Jill and I on a human day was not good for anyone. So when I watched the show,

I had actually forgotten that Meredith was on your season, Bob. And then it all clicked. But you see. see you and Meredith together a lot. Were you guys friends like after the show and how did you feel about her becoming the Bachelorette? So I loved Meredith. She was my go-to.

Early on in the show, they did this crazy psychology thing where we had to vote who is most likely to be with Bob and who is most likely not to be, which was actually terrible. There was tears and I was like, what is happening? We were all getting along and then all of a sudden it was just this like gong show. and of course because we all got along and they're like we got to stir this up so Meredith was I think on everyone's list and her and I just became close she was like a big sister her her grandma died on the show and her and I would just because I had lost my dad so like we had like a very similar loss and we just would sit and have some darts some darts and lots of and lots of margarie

and then her and I just became close and then post show we were super close to and we've chatted every once in a while I think she's gone through some struggles up at ups and downs but um we still all talk yeah that's awesome I always thought that about about the season of the women that were on my season Trista like you know you and I've talked a lot about how the guys all got along and I always thought that same way like I was kind of weird about it anyway I was like guys please don't you know I don't think that you know drama back here is going to make anything happen over here, you know, but they didn't need that because they were like that with themselves right away. They were all very confident, very beautiful women. They all got along great. And so I actually

found that to be such an attractive quality in all of them, you know, that they were like that, yeah, yeah. Right. Aw, we were a good cast and still to this day, we're on this Facebook thread, and we just joke around and we're like, we still need a reunion because it would be so much fun. I agree. I've been, I've been trying to get that for a while. I don't know if you guys, I feel like they just put so many women against each other on The Bachelor now. And men now, too. And men now too, yeah. I would actually say the men, it feels like the men are worse than the women, frankly.

Like, when you watch The Bachelorette now, I feel like those guys come in for blood. And it's like, I mean, I do agree with you guys. It does seem like the women definitely are a lot more aggressive with each other. But the guys, it is crazy. I mean, we were such good friends on your show. And I felt like waste about so many of the girls on my show too. So it was like, you know, I liked it better in that regard. I think that it's naturally going to create some stuff.

But, you know. I just wish it wasn't like going after each other and your character and that sort of thing. Like there is always going to be drama in some way, shape, or form when you put that many people together. And they're, you know, vying for the attention of one person. But I just feel like it, I would love. love for it to not be so yucky to watch, you know, like, just makes me feel yucky. Yeah, and you feel like you need to turn it on. Exactly.

And I can't because it's the train wreck, you know, that you want to watch. And I feel kind of maternal towards these people. And I'm like, well, why are you saying this about your sister, you know? Well, Kelly Joseph, now you, you obviously, you have family. Tell us about everything you're doing. I live in Canada with a super hot Canadian. and have a professional hockey player oh used to be he's just old and grizzled now so oh stop it yeah so i mean i'll still take it's a good look and do you know that yeah um

but um yeah so i've two wonderful girls 15 and 13 in the thick of teen years trista i'm sure you know oh yeah right there with yeah yep we're at the same ages we're like almost are you older boy younger girl i have two girls oh you have two girls um Yes. So we're almost almost 15 in July and 13. I'm like literally right in it with you. And I don't know if your girls play hockey, but my son plays hockey. So I, yeah. Yes. My youngest plays hockey. She's a little stud. And my oldest plays volleyball like I did. And she's way taller than I ever was. So I'm living like seriously through her. So yeah, it's good. I get to go back to the States. As I said, my best friend's getting married. So I get to go to Chicago next week, which will be so fun. And yeah, I guess to see my mom. mom who's in Florida and I haven't seen her in ages. So things are good. I've been very, very blessed since The Bachelor. Please tell your mom, I said hi.

It's been a long time since I've gotten to see her. That was such a fun time visiting with your family in Chicago. I remember it very fondly. I think all of the girls in my family like jumped on you. They did. It was awesome. You know how they do like the running hug that they do now on dates? I think my family did that to Bob.

Oh, we need it. We need to pull that up, guys. Even my family are listening to this, we need that. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. Okay, so wait. So how long did Kelly Joe last? You lasted to the end.

Kelly Joe was to the very end. Yeah, it was Kelly Joe and Estella were the final two. In fact, much was made. Much was made of Kelly Joe and I are holding hands like this. And I say, you know, however, and Kelly Joe goes. Yes. However, I got the butt. It's so mad at him.

Oh, she, I mean, and then I was like, can I walk you in the car? And she's like, fine. She didn't care if I walked her to the car. She's like, yeah, if that's what you want to do. I mean, it doesn't matter to me. I mean, it was pretty awesome. Very, you know, in very Kelly Joe fashion, though. It was like, you know, okay, all right.

You made your, you made your bed. See you, buddy. You know, and I thought that was. I mean, looking back at it 20 years later, I'm like, well done. Good play. Yeah. Well, you know what? It led to your life. Like, I always think, thank God for Alex Michelle and that he did not choose me because I would never have gone on to meet Ryan. So I'm sure you feel the same way. Yeah. It's all meant to be. Amen. And it's great that we get to

still remain friends. I mean, that's what's so nice about it. So many years later, you know. So it was awesome having you on. Thank you for joining us in the midst of your hair treatment. don't worry, I'll send you guys a post so you don't think I'm as scary as I am right now. Yeah, send us an after photo. Okay, perfect. Thanks for having me on, guys. Thank you.

Anytime. Awesome. Oh, my gosh. That was awesome. Isn't she funny? I love that she comes on with tinfoil in her hair. That's so good. I love it.

But you know, it's so fun. I mean, so Kelly Joe and I reconnected years later through my wife, actually. Really? Yeah. So Canyon had opened a facility in Vegas with her company that she worked with in L.A., Miami, New York, and all the stuff. And Kelly Joe had reached out to me, I forget if it was like through Facebook or something, and was just like, you know, I know you're still doing all this kind of entertainment stuff. You know, do you have any, you know, friends that could do this or this?

So I called my wife. And I'm like, could you help me with this? Because I wouldn't know who to call. And my wife would set it all up. Set it up. It was really fun. And Kelly Joe was really awesome about it. She's like, thank you so much.

I'm like, well, you actually have to think my wife. I had nothing to do with it. And she's like, that's so cool, you know. I love that. So it's kind of one of those things, you know, it's very nice to have these people in your life that you, you know, you have this kind of long history with. And you pick up 10, 15 years later. And, you know, you can just be like, yeah, wasn't that an awesome time in our lives? You know, oh, I see you have such a beautiful family and kids.

It's so great. It's not weird. It's not, you know, awkward. It's just nice. And I think that's got. That's got to come from the advice that Trista gave me, actually, when I was going to be The Bachelor. And this was something I took very seriously, where you were like, you know, just be honest. Just be as forthcoming as you can.

And so I tried, you know, even when it didn't work out, you know, so great, I tried to be like, hey, look, this is it. And, you know, I hope it's okay, you know. And obviously, it didn't work out for me on The Bachelor, the way that it worked out for you on The Bachelorette, but still an awesome experience and a lot of fun and clearly a lot of lifelong friends. friendships that have come out of it, which have been pretty amazing. Yeah. Including you for me, Bob. Again, this was so much fun. Love it.

And I hope that all of you out there are enjoying listening. I know Ashley and Ben cannot be replaced, but we hope that we're just a little, you know, extra in your day. A different wrinkle. And don't use the word wrinkle, you know, about my face. Now with a 50-year-old woman almost. Yeah. Let's not talk about wrinkles. Oh, my Lord.

but yeah i feel every inch of it in fact you know i was going to say i wanted i i mentioned this the other day um texting with you but i was thinking about like where my life was and where your life was when we were on these shows which is 20 years ago this year i guess and where they are today and um you know i always teasingly say that you know trista gets ready for her time on the radio with her glam squad doing her hair and makeup and getting her all down you know but our lives are so it's so interesting because i'll still run into people and they you know what are you doing at Kroger. I'm like,

guys, we handed out flowers 20 years ago, still need to eat chicken. You know, it happens. I need some cereal. You know, or whatever it might be. So it's kind of funny. So I would love for us to kind of talk a little bit about that

on our next show, too, because I do think it's a lot of fun. The, what did I say on the thing? The IG versus IG. There you go. OG versus IG. Yeah, our real life versus Instagram, which I will be the first one to tell.

life or real life versus real life um yeah i i mean i think that ashley and ben actually do a really good job of talking about this like ashley shows up feeding the baby you know like ben's got you know the dog barking in the background whatever i i think that they're really good at at showing everyone real life so i i'm i'm all about talking about reality the reality away from from reality TV. There you go. Maybe next episode, maybe two episodes. We'll see.

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