The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OGs: A Visit from The Stork with Travis Stork

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Our Bachelor Nation Ogs Bob Guiney and Trista Sutter connect with Dr. Travis Stork (The Bachelor season 8) and get an update on his life since handing out the final rose!   Travis fills us in on how another Bachelor contestant helped him meet his wife… all through a blind date!   Hear why Travis went to live in the mountains after his season ended.   And Trista clears everything up about those bizarre headlines… find out the REAL story of where she was!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I just did an interview with the Betches and Jared Freed said that he met you at I think Good Morning America one time and he wanted me to tell you hi I love that guy he's so funny he's amazing um she was on it and she was talking about the YouTube I was like the YouTube now and then so funny yes so much drama about it was almost like like where's Waldo it was like this hot topic sweeping the internet. It was like a buzzworthy moment of where's Trista and what's going on? And, you know, and I loved your response to it. Because I, it's funny. I think knowing Ryan, as I, as I feel I do well, I was reading those, those posts and going, oh, I love that, man. He is just, you know,

I clearly knew that something was going on. But I was like, I love the way he just gets on there. And he says, and you clearly knew that something was going on. How, what, no, I didn't tell you anything so no no no no to that i had i had to do i had a um let's just say while we were scheduling podcasts all of a sudden my partner in pod you was gone and i didn't know where i responded i not all of a sudden you were like i'm going to be gone for i'm going to be unavailable i think is what you said i'm unavailable for this period of time i'm like hmm and then during that period of time ryan takes to the interweb to spew his feelings of longing missing and loving his beautiful wife.

And next thing you know, drama ensues and next thing you know, it's a slow news day and it gets picked up by every freaking news outlet on the planet. I was like, what happened? Holy cow. Well, for the record, I do not know where you were.

I have my suspicions and I have already, I will, I will, I'm sure, still try to get this stuff out of you. But whatever it is, I'm excited about it. I'm excited you're back. Everything is harmonious and wonderful in the Sutter world as it was then, as it is now. Exactly. But you were very missed by America during that little period of time there.

I mean, it felt good to be missed and to be cared for, but at the same time, people, gosh, make a lot of assumptions from one little thing. Yeah, never positive ones either. It's never like, oh, I'm sure she's doing it. something it's like hmm they must be having problems you know okay so as with everything i feel like when it comes to social media or fans or whatever followers 99% of it is positive so i love all the people out there who we're like we're we're with you we support you we love you guys and whatever's going on it's great you do you kind of thing you know um and then there's of course the the one percent that's just yeah they're like oh Ryan's doing this for attention the last thing

clearly you don't know my husband last thing Ryan Sutter would ever want in his life by the way last thing why can't you just be private about it why can't he just text you and I'm like okay have you ever heard of the term shout it from the rooftops right so um he was shouting it from the rooftops that's something that he's able to do on his own freaking page like yeah he just wanted to put it out there in a very public way or not even a very public way because usually people people don't care about what we post and you know if they do it's a very minimal amount of people so in you know all relative right so he was posting like he always does and shouting it from the rooftops that you know he loves me essentially yeah yeah and gosh i the people who just come

out of the woodwork and you're like, oh, you just want attention. I'm like, you literally. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong former reality star to say that about, quite honestly. I mean, honest to God, there's no one who craves not being in the spotlight more than Ryan that I've ever met that's been on a show like these. I mean, I've met a bunch of people from this stuff. And I was going to say, how many red carpets have you and I walked together while Ryan standing there watching us?

And my wife, and my wife's the same way. Canyon's the same way. She'll be standing there with Ryan talking to him while you and I are on the red carpet. And neither one of them care one iota about it. And it just always blows my mind. It's funny and I love it because you and I laugh about it. We're like, oh, there go our plus ones, you know. But yeah, I'm glad.

I'm glad that you were able to kind of set the record straight when you came back. And I love that you didn't, I love that you were like, he's free to do what he wants. And I love the way he, you know, did that. And, um, but yeah, welcome back. I'm excited. I'm excited to find out where my, my partner and pod was. So I'm very excited to find out where you were, what you were doing and how it, how it affected you and all that good stuff. I'm sure it's going to be such a great story. I can't wait to hear it. I will, I will share it as soon as I possibly can. Um, but yeah, life is crazy right now. Life is crazy.

And it's summertime with two teenagers who need to get jobs. And we need to get ready for their junior and sophomore years. So, yeah, life is crazy. And then we're just continuing to do stuff to the house. Like, you know, people say, I think, I mean, this is Blake'sley, like, a room that we have. It's empty, like nothing in it. So anyway, life is good. The moral of the story, life is good.

Ryan and I are very happy. We just came back from a family vacation in Mexico. That looked amazing, by the way. Yeah. That looked incredible. Your pictures were incredible. It was awesome. Like I was thinking we would go to Europe because we went to Europe years ago and haven't

been back. And we have family over there. The freaking flights. I looked at like thinking I wanted to go somewhere warm. I looked at Spain and Portugal. and economy seats, $4,000, $18,000 for a first-class ticket. And not that we would have paid $4,000 for an economy seat. I was like, okay, no.

And I told Ryan, and he's like, let's just go to Mexico because it's just so easy from Puerto Rico. Right. So we hit the easy button. A friend of ours goes to Punta Mita all the time, and she sent me this. Hey, that's where we got married. We got married in Punta. Oh, it is? I love it there.

Yeah. Yeah, that's so beautiful. Well, we rented a house down there and we got married at the house. But our family and friends were able to stay at either the Ritz Carlton or the four seasons, which were like on either side of our house. Yeah. Which was super cool. Yeah. Oh, my God.

We went to the four seasons this week. Did you go to Sayalita? Did you go to the town, Sayaloo, in your body? We walked around Saialita. We went to Don Pedro for dinner. Yeah. just walked around the shops there. But yes, it was, it was like a much needed trip.

And for no other reason, other than we really, like, bond as a family going on family vacations. Yeah. And we just hadn't been on one since, gosh, we went to 30A, like, a year and a half ago, two and a half years ago. Yeah. So it's been a long time. And we've had, you know, you go to a psychologist office and they're like, or you're filling

out some psychitis, like, like. a psychological report. I've done it a couple times in my life where they're like, have you gone through any big changes in life? And one of the biggest ones is a move. And so we've moved our life 20 years in Vail. So we went through a huge move. We went through a death with our dog and, you know, like all of these changes. The kids are at a new school and new like activities, like all of those things. Everybody's got the major shifts in your family right now. Yeah, that's you're right. They always say like loss of a family member, loss of a job, moving from a house, you know, change in marital status,

whatever. Like those are the big ones, right? And it's like you go through that stuff and you don't realize, I mean, I'm sure the kids are affected too, even though they're happy and enjoying the move. But good for you. I think it's great. I mean, Canyon and I went to L.A. with the boys. And, you know, it is, I will tell you, flights are crazy right now. I totally agree with you, even for four of us to fly to L.A. And I mean, we got a two and a half year old, right? who it's like people forget they're like you know why aren't you guys traveling that much i'm like because i got to buy four tickets now and pay full price even for this two and a half year old that everyone gets pissed off and sitting next to on the plane anyway so it's like you know i'm like

you know just then you end up having like a four hour flight from hell not because your kids are being bad but because anytime they make a noise half the people are looking at you like your horrible human beings you're bringing it's like hey guys full price ticket right here he can do whatever he wants and you know what like the first flight we took someone on the plane the pilot came on and he was like so if you're having an altercation with your neighbor please remember kindness and I'm like oh my gosh what is happening like you hear about people fighting

or like just people being rude to flight attendants or flight attendants being rude to people and you know people on the plane I was my my spidey senses alerts were up like thinking what's going on this plane anyway it's just crazy to travel right now and I'm grateful, very grateful, that we could make it work. I know that a lot of people, like just, it's too expensive to go anywhere.

You have like a two and a half year old and kids and young kids in their activities and pulling them out of stuff and work and all of that. It's a lot. It's not lost. I am grateful that we could make it work. I will be stressed out about money for a while. Yeah. I'm just going to be stressed out about money forever.

I decided. There's just no, there's no end in cycle. So, well, and you know what? My mom was just here on vacation and, or she came to visit. And she was always the person, my parent, that was stressed about money, always stressed about money. And she told me, she was, we were talking about it. She said, you know what, just go on the trip. If you have the credit card bill for a month or two, that's fine.

Like get the memories in, make the memories, bond, you know, do all the things because it's so much more important than the stress over. I agree. And it's not like you're not going to be able to handle it. It's like you're not irresponsible. It's not like you're going bananas. It's like I know you and how your family are. You know, it's like we're the same way. But it is one of those things. It's kind of like, you know, yeah, it's interesting. And, you know, I'm just glad you're back. You've been missed. And I'm so excited to find out. Find out what you're doing. I'll find out with everybody else, I'm sure. But I will tell you, I had a great experience this weekend in Charleston. And then we can get to our guest, obviously. But I was in Charleston this weekend.

And one of the people I was there with randomly kind of there with is like, can I please call my friend because my friend is a huge fan of the podcast, listens to every one of them. And so we got on the horn and we were talking to her friend and we were having a great time. But we were on a boat so we couldn't really hear each other. And I wasn't able to figure out what her friend's name was. But I will tell you, we had a great, we had a really great time with our. fans friend. And so I was really happy to know that someone besides my mom was listening to the podcast. Yeah, right. And Mark. Our moms, our moms. So, all right, well, let's get into it. We have a great guest today. I'm so excited. Dr. Travis Stork, famous, of course, from season

eight of the Bachelor. And of course, the doctors, a long-running show, any winning show, the doctors is joining us. And I know you've talked to him a bunch, Trista, but I haven't really ever gotten to talk to him in person so I'm very excited to meet him and have him on the show so let's do it hi Travis hello hello how goes it hey what's up dr. stork how are you sir life is good how are you two doing we're doing great thank you so much for joining the show we appreciate it well it's good to hang with the OG crew that's right you are a true OG I mean season eight man we got to think about this but they're on like season 164 right Trista Yeah.

What are they on right now? I'm too old. I can't remember now. I know. It's so long. I know. Imagine how I feel. I mean, my gosh.

You know, like Trista and I, we, she's the fairy godmother of the show, of course. And I'm, I'm the great grandpa. So, you know, it's not even fair. Am I, like, the older middle child that. Yeah. You're like the favorite uncle. Yeah, you're the favorite uncle. You're the favorite uncle.

He's the Funkle. He's the fun. He's the fun. I love it. Thanks, well, thank you so much for joining us. So I have to tell you this story. I'll never forget it. Well, the reason why I won't forget it is because of the juxtaposition of things. So it was a few years after my season of The Bachelor. And I had hosted the CMA Music Festival several years in a row down in Nashville.

I loved it. Tennessee Titan Stadium. I'm out there on stage. Keith Urban and all these cool people. And these executives from CMT come over and they're like, oh, we really want you to host this show. It's a companion show to one of our top shows on our network. And one of the top shows.

And I didn't even ask. I'm like, hell yeah, let's do it. You know, because I was just all excited. I loved CMT and Tristan knows me well enough. It's like, you know, the power of yes. Okay. And then I find out later, maybe I should have thought this through. But anyway, they have me hosting this show that is called Trick My Trucker.

And the show at the time that was a top-rated show for them was called Trick My Truck, which was very much a makeover show, you know, where they'd bring in like a crappy semi-truck and they fix it all up and it goes back on the road. So mine was this companion show to this. And I really had a good time filming it. And it was a good show. Let me just say those things to protect myself. But I will say that the grounds with which we were filming was this truck stop.

And it was it was a tough. neighborhood, you know. And even though I'm from the main streets of Detroit, they're actually the suburbs. I was not prepared for where I was filming every day. And I was like, man, I just, you know, this is crazy. I've got a little trailer there and a truck stop in between like California and Vegas. And I get a call from this guy that I had met at this party. And I'm trying to find his name of my phone because I know, I know Travis will know him. But anyway, I don't I don't have him on my phone anymore, but he's this producer. And he's like, hey, man, so I'm calling about this show.

It's called The Doctors. And I'm really excited about it. And I'm like, oh, my God, he must think I'm a doctor. Like, you know, I'm not a doctor. And so this conversation's going on. And he's like, and I need your help. I really need to get a hold of Travis Stork. And you're the only guy I've ever met from The Bachelor.

And this is the guy. We think he's going to be so great for this show. And we really want him to, you know, be the lead on the show. And, you know, do you know how I can get a hold of them? And I'm like, and I'm looking around me, by the way, at, you know, my trailer, my trailer area, park area. And I'm on a truck stop and I'm, you know, eating truck stop food every day. And I'm like, where the hell did I go wrong? Like, why am I not Dr. Travis Stork right now getting called for, you know, a show that would go on to be hugely successful?

And congratulations on that run for you, by the way, multiple Emmys, a great show. I'm like, you know, obviously, you know, let's start where I went wrong. I mean, I didn't go to medical school. There was a, that one, you know, but you just crushed it on that. And it was so fun because I remember connecting the dots with somebody to someone that I thought might be able to get in touch with you. It might have been Jason Carbone. I can't remember who it was that I gave the information to. And then they helped connect the dots.

But I remember always thinking, like I'd be watching you on that show. And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's all me. You're welcome, Travis. Which let's not kid ourselves. I did. I owe everything to you, my friend. Yeah, we know that's not true, but hey, thank you. I'll accept it for today.

You know, interestingly during that time, Tristan knows this. I was essentially living down the road from Trista. I was living up in Breckenridge, Colorado. Like, full on, you all know the, you're on the show. And it's a little overwhelming. Yep. So I straight up. moved to the mountains

was an ER dock literally lived I think 100 yards from the Colorado Trail living the very simple mountain life awesome and when those things

started to unfold and and the whole idea of honestly going back on TV potentially was a little bit overwhelming but I'm in retrospect

obviously ecstatic that everything evolved the way it did because one of the coolest things for me now 12 years of hosting the doctors ironically what the bachelor you're you do that and it lasts a few months realistically yeah but you carry that with you for life yeah for sure it's kind of cool you know to this day when when people if they they stop me on the street or whatnot they'll say

something along the lines oftentimes of oh my gosh you know i was watching this episode of the doctors and so-and-so, maybe it's their husband or their child, you know, had this illness and for the first time I actually understood what it meant, thank you. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I, like never in a million years when I was on the bathroom, I think one day that would lead to me giving medical advice. And so it all has come full circle and talking to you to as well. It's just the journey for all of us has been so unexpected. Yeah. And, and, and, and, Bob, your own unique journey, buddy. Maybe you weren't meant to host the doctors, but I bet, honestly, I bet hanging out

at a gas station between Vegas and L.A., honestly, has taught you a lot and is probably some great stories. So I'm kind of jealous of people, because that was probably pretty awesome. You know, I did learn some stuff. I learned you never, you know, you never pick up a milk jug on the side of the road to take a drink because that's what they call a trucker bomb. So I know these things from that experience. I think we maybe had met one time in passing or something,

and it wasn't even for a very long period of time, but I remember feeling so proud of that jump you made because it was such a great use of, you know, like my thing, and Trista knows this, like whenever I get asked for advice for the next bachelor, you know, my advice is always, don't quit your day job. And it's not about you, right?

It's about the 30 women that they've cast on that show who have never lost anything in their lives, right? It's not about the guy. You could have a monkey hand out of a flower. And I'm always like, don't quit your day job, you know, and they always do. And, you know, inevitably, you know, they, and no one listens to either piece of advice I've given them. But I was so proud watching you, like, just catapult. Like, you know, to this day, I mean, I'm 20, how, how deep are we trust stuff from our season? in how many years, 23 from when you were the Bachelorette, 22, yeah.

And so that means 21 from when I was the actual bachelor. And, you know, I'm married with a couple kids and I'm still bachelor bob to everybody, you know. And so it's got to be a pretty rewarding feeling for you to, you know, like you said, you know, you come off that show, you're hiding in the mountains because you just can't take it. And the next thing you know, you're back on TV. And, you know, here you are. If we're 20, you've got to be 16, 15 years out from the show. And to be in that situation where you can be like, you know, people are coming up to you.

They're not asking about, you know, how you handed out a flower and a rose ceremony. They're asking you about medical advice you may have given them to save a life. I just think it's great that it's what you went to school for. It's what you set out to do. And your career, you know, it just put you in this next stratosphere. I was really, I was proud. It means that I didn't handle my post-batchelor fame as well as you did. So I actually have a quote that I don't even know if it truly is from you.

But honestly, going back to the producer who reached out to you, I won't name that producer. But so he told me some stories about you. And one of the quotes, and again, I don't know if this is truly from you or not. Probably is. He's like, yeah, you know, Bob said that when you become the bachelor or bachelor, you go from being completely anonymous to being like you're in the Beatles. Yeah. It's how it felt in that moment.

Yeah. And I was like, you know, that's kind of how it is. Yeah. And I honestly didn't. I don't think I personally dealt very well with the post-batchelor. And maybe it's because I was in the ER, you know, one day you're anonymous. The next day in the ER you have people coming in. And there's trauma patients and like literally a family member like their sick loved one.

And like, oh, my God, it's the bachelor. And you're like, oh, my God. I'm just about you. Please. Let's focus on the better of the hand. What happened to my not quiet life, but my very simple, you know, go to the ER, come home from the ER, go for a run with the dog. What happened to this life?

And so the reason I bring up that quote a lot to people is no one fully understands how that works. and I especially feel bad for super young people who, quite frankly, become one within a day because having the ability to handle that. So for me, this story full circle is I almost needed the doctors to happen for me to regain my identity because I, and I don't know how you all felt inside, but there's just so much tied into who you were before you go on the, you know, the Bachelor of the Bachelor of the Bachelor. right and then instantly you are yeah they at least called you bachelor bob like what they you know they with me it was just oh that's the bachelor right and i'm sure that's the way a lot

of us feel and you're like okay this is the great experience but you're like hey i'm actually that's like such a small part right right yeah five weeks of my life right right so there's more going on here but the reason i bring that up is again for me the beauty of how everything evolved and the reason that I learned so much as you two did as well about the power of television is especially with the Bachelor franchise you're essentially giving people a glimpse into your life so they become very attached to you your story whoever you're dating and the evolution of that honestly for me to then letting me talk about things that also are very personal, you know, things that matter very much, people's health, people's mental

health. Like the transition ended up being smoother than I ever thought it would be precisely because ultimately I'm very comfortable with having honest conversations with people. But it's a lot easier to have those conversations about something more objective like health than it is. Like, why did you pick so-and-so? Oh my gosh. Like, why did you break up? What were you thinking? And you're like, oh, I have no, I have no good answer here because that is such an subjective thing. Yeah. You know, you do TV and you do something that's a little more objective, like something based on health. You're like, okay.

Well, the reason I say this is because there are 10 studies that prove that it is okay to drink the milk jug on the side of the road because it probably has piss in it. Right. Right. So it's a proven statistic. Well, you know, I feel like, like, Trista, you were really such a trailblazer in so many ways. I mean, you and I've talked about this a lot, but never with Travis on the phone. But like, you know, one of the things that you and I were, you know, like when I said that quote, I mean, that is, I'm sure that's something I said. I used to say that a lot. And I was like in the hardest part about it is we're not paid like the Beatles, right, to go on and hand out flour. So you all of a sudden, you're like in the grocery store, minding your own business trying to get back to your normal life, which just, I always say that you and Ryan in particular have done that better than anyone from the standpoint of the way that you two went back to Colorado. You could have done a, you know, I'm sure you could have done a billion different things. And Ryan's like, I'm a firefighter and I'm going back to protecting my neighborhood, you know, and it was just, going back to, you know, patrol in the community. And, you know, but it was like one of those things

that I think, you know, it was a good lesson for me to watch that. And then, but it still was really difficult to walk into a grocery store, you know, when you're trying to mind your own business and go back to your day job and you're, you know, there's three covers on magazines, talk about things that, you know, you didn't even do or you weren't at. And you're like, and granted, that's all changed now. Now it's all social media. So it's, you know, it's way more, I'm sure, you know, just blown up in immediate. But your season kind of came around that time when, when social media was, was really starting to get invested in the show, didn't it? I mean, you were kind of like, right. Luckily for me, I, I was,

pre-social media. You are too. Okay. I mean, I think, so the unique thing about our three experiences, I think there's a few things, and correct me if you don't agree, but when we all went on, it was just network television ruled the day, right? So there's no streaming, there's no, and, you know, there's all the, there was the MySpace, isn't that what it was called?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the blogs that basically resembled social media, but you couldn't actually correct any misinformation. So when we went on, you know, the number of viewers obviously was really, especially for YouTube OGs, like just through the roof and continued kind of on through that stretch till streaming obviously became more popular.

So the one thing that I, like the blessing I feel like for me is that I didn't have to interact as much with all of the hearsay. Yeah. But when I did, it was, you guys, again, agree or disagree, you really had no way to respond to it. Yeah. So it's almost like having social media is a double-edged sword because at least nowadays, people can directly respond to whether it's rumor, you know, rumors or window. Yeah.

We were kind of stuck in this. Everyone watched us. And then we had to sort of hear the noise. And we've had no. you're so right I've never thought about it like that and you're so right I guess the only way that we could respond

was if we had the opportunity for an interview you know or something like that you didn't have press releases that we would put out you know it would just be like all magazine stuff and they never

necessarily got that right anyway but I will say even with social media like even if you put something out people still spend it however they want to spin it so um you know you did trace they just went through that yeah it's been a little crazy around here but no i i i uh i think you're right there are definitely benefits and pitfalls to social media but i i feel like i've always said especially with being married to someone similar to you Travis in that he just wanted a simple life he wanted to go

back to the fire department. He didn't want people pulling fire alarms to meet him. And he just wanted to live in the mountains and, you know, forge a relationship. And it was hard. So I'm sure it was so hard for you. But with social media, I think it would have been even harder because it's just like people just like to chime in. They think they know everything about your relationship and they really don't. Well, and with the chat rooms too, I was going to say with the Chatrooms, too, not everybody had access to chat or knew how to get on chat rooms. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So, yeah, you're right, Travis. We would have to sit there and read all this stuff and sit there and go, oh, these people don't know what they're talking about. But if we got in there and responded, now we're like feeding the machine. So we would never do that. You know, now it's like everyone's got social media. So everybody feels like their opinion matters, right? Which it does.

Yeah, but they'll be like, well, I think, you know, Trista did this or whatever. I think Bob did this. And it's just, you know, now I would never. would never be able to handle being the bachelor today. Like there's no way. The one thing, though, that you alluded to before, which is so true and no one realizes this, you know, I actually have a lot of respect now for people who go on the show and are genuine.

Yeah. But if they are then able to spin that into increasing their social media followers and they have some purpose, you know, again, other than just the reality is you're, your five minutes of fame when you are on The Bachelor or Bachelorette is pretty much that. If there's something else that you have that you want to talk about, I think it's cool to use social media to your advantage and to either spread that message or if you want to get some endorsement deals, I'm all for that. Because back in the day, you all know, everyone would go on the show and pretty much

were like, okay, this is cool. Like for me, I got to go to Paris. Literally Paris is where it was. And I was totally fine with the fact that I had, I got to live in a castle and I got to like meet some really cool people and go on private jets and helicopters like that's enough for me that's all that's all we got yeah but yeah you do you get back from it and I mean I was a resident physician so I mean you know I'm barely making enough to put food on the table got my my med school loans and like you come back from that and then and then all of a sudden

you're famous you're like but I still I still have no money right yeah so now they're I like I'm all I'm all for the ones that are able to like parlay that into making some money because you're making the bachelor franchise a lot of money so you might as well you know take part if you will yeah yeah I agree yeah yeah my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

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Like, if the energy is not right, we're not doing it, whatever that it is. Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I would love to know, like we've been talking kind of back in the day, but how is life now? Like, tell us how life is, where you are, all about your family and what you're doing now. Well, I mean, mainly, you can call me, you know, the guy living the dad life. So dad is kind of my new activity. And, you know, without going into the specifics of it, one of the blessings of everything that's happening in my life.

And this is honestly, I almost want to cry thinking about it. But I started a family later in life. And in many ways, it probably is because the Bachelor is so just, it causes so much confusion unless of course you're trista and you meet your person right right yeah for one person on this call it didn't cause her any confusion uh for the other tale it was that you met a great person and you're still together and i think that's the storybook ending that yeah that everyone goes either on the show or hopes for in life well you know for me it it took longer to find my person and start a family so i'm 52 now and my so my daughter literally today is their second

birthday. Hey. And so she, and she is just absolutely incredible, rambunctious, energetic. My son turns four in two weeks. And so over the last four years, my son was born during the pandemic, during that whole stretch, like maybe, I don't know, he was born in June. So was it March or so that the world kind of shut down? Yeah. March April. Yeah. And ironically, so my son is born, And then because of the pandemic, you know, the doctor stopped filming in L.A. And I know long, it was like, it was the perfect time, 12 seasons of the doctors. Yes. And doing that for 12 years, traveling from Nashville to L.A., just gone like that.

So I kind of dug my heels in and like I got this little baby boy. And I'm like, I have an opportunity to spend a ton of time with him. And as life sort of evolves, like one of the cool things is I kind of made a conscious decision because your kids are pretty much at home for just a few years and then they're gone. And then they care more about their friends than you. Yeah. So when my girl was born, two years later, I sort of committed to trying to spend as much time with her as I did with Grace. And so it's it's been hard only because as you two both can attestant any parent out there

listening knows this. So I'm an ER doc by trade. I can't tell you how chaotic life in the ER can be or some of the nights I've had and just the pure chaos. Right. But for the most part, like my whole life, I mean, I was a math major in college. Like you solve problems, you know, one plus one equals two. The last four years for me, because I'm a logical type person, spending this much time with two toddlers, I have never felt in an ER shift the amount of angst and anxiety and high speaker tone as I've felt over the last four years. I have so much empathy for any parent out there who actually gets in the dirt with their kids literally and also figuratively and that like learning how to actually get your kid to go to bed

yeah like literally as hard as as an ER shift you know trying to get your kid to not throw their feet and to eat it there's no logical reasoning and you're just this is this is this is so hard and so it's funny because the last four years part of was like it's been the best I've had all this time with my kids. The other part of me is like, who am I now? My greatest skill set is I figured out a way to get my son to go to bed every night. Like four years, but he actually goes to bed now when I ask him to. And I'm like, this is, this is everything. I'm the main. You did it. I didn't realize, I didn't realize how much we had in comments. I'm 53. And my five year old is Grayson. And a boy. Yeah. Am I two? And I have a two and a half year old Blake. Yeah. So I had kids.

really late, too. I was 48 when Grayson was born. So that's, I love that. I didn't know yet. I didn't realize you had a Grayson. I knew you had a son and a daughter. I didn't know their names. That's spectacular. I love that. Bob, I mean this in a loving way. The beauty for you of life is you have a baby face. In a million years, I don't look at you and think, oh, Bob's an old father. Thank you, buddy. Thank you. Because, yeah, you're very useful and, and, and, It actually makes me feel better whenever I talk to people who are of similar age with kids at our ages because you would agree with me. It's a different experience because you have, like if I had had a kid when I was in the

midst of my ER training and everything else, like the reality is I was gone 80 hours a week. And this was even way back before they had time limits and all that. So just like gone. Right. Yeah. Now being older, like you have more choices. because you've been in the grind for 20, 30 years. And so it's like you probably have that unique experience with me.

I do. Yeah. I talk about it all the time. I love it. Yeah. I love that, you know, and where we are in life, you know, we're not, we're not at that point as a young parent would be, which, you know, and there's blessings and curses on both sides, right?

Like, I look at the, you know, the half my guys I graduated high school with and their kids are going to college and I'm like, wow, you know. Yeah. Hey, let's go to dinner. I'm like, ah, I don't think I can. I got to put the kids down at 7.30, you know. So it's like my life is just so different than I, you know, but I'm so thankful for it. And I think I appreciate it more.

I'm sure you feel this way too. I appreciate it more at this age than I think I might have had I done it differently, you know, and I don't have anything to compare it to other than my own personal life experiences. But I think I was a little, I was focused on different stuff back then. And so now it's like, you know, my kids come up and knock on the door and I can be in the middle of this interview and they're coming in. Right? You know, it's same, you know, I'm like, oh, here they come. Yeah. I mean, Trista and I have done a bunch of these and my kids generally will make a cameo at some point or another, you know, but it's, it is one of those things where it's like, I'm so thankful for

that because I want to be that dad. Like, I want to be the dad that's never too busy for my kids. And, you know, and I love that you got that opportunity to be home with them and spend all that time. I've often said that's been the silver lining for me of COVID, which, you know, I know, a lot of people lost so much in their lives and things of that nature. And my heart goes out to those families. But for me, I was able to spend a lot of time with my two children that I won't ever regret. You know, and I love that I had that time. Trista, where Bob and I are different, though, is Bob's like, ah, you know, I can't go to dinner at 730 because I got to put the kids down.

I'm like, sorry, can't go to dinner because I'm at 5.30 and I'm going to put the kids down. I'm going to be at home and I love being at home. Yeah. You don't have to go be social. Life is great. Yeah. And I'm like, I can't be social. That would be Ryan.

He would be like, yeah, no, I don't need to go out to dinner. I'm happy here. Yeah, I totally get that. And I love that you have it. I love that you found it no matter what time in your life. But I wonder, do you miss practicing at all or even just talking about medicine? and do you do any of it now? I mean, so I'm still, I'm still a doctor, obviously.

Once a doctor, always a doctor. Yeah. I'm actually taking a little sabbatical from actual practice, but here's the irony of life as an ER doc. I mentioned my daughter's birthday today. So literally two hours before I hop on with you guys, she gets a nursemaid's elbow. So I don't know if you guys.

Basically, it's called radial head sublixation. So like their elbow, their bone comes a little bit out of joint, and you got to reduce it. And it's just funny because, like, thank my wife's, like, holding her. She's crying. And I'm like, all right, what's going on? She's not using her left arm. And I'm like, I wonder if she, you know, had a little subluxation.

And, you know, she's balling, ball and ball. And I'm like, all right, I'm going to reduce it. And it's luckily a very simple procedure if you know how to do it. and like instantly she perks up, starts using her arm, which is like the classic thing is you have to do a high five after and that means everything's back in order. Amazing. Parents is like, yeah, you're, you know,

the beauty of being an ER doc is your whole life. Two things. Like one, it is definitely a younger person's game, if you will. Like the energy I had in my 30s and 40s to do that kind of work day in and day out is so much greater than when you're in your 50s. But it's really kind of cool because not only the lessons that you learn, just about health and wellness and hopefully avoiding disease, but I'm not going to lie,

it's kind of cool when you're, you don't have to take your two-year-old daughter on her birthday to the ER. Yes. Do the procedure in your living room. And you're like, all right. Yes. And you can write yourself, can you write a prescription and be like,

oh, my kid has an ear infection. I'm going to write an antibiotic and don't have. to go to the urgent care. Yeah, right. Here's Pink Eye. Here we go. Yeah. I don't want to start like digging into the moral grounds of medicine.

But, you know, having said all of that, there are other advantages. So when you get to this stage in life, I think the one thing that I really pay a lot of attention to is, I mean, when you spend as much time in the hospital as I have, your number one goal in life becomes I want to minimize the amount of time my family is in the hospital. because sometimes no matter what you do, you do everything right, still tragedy strikes or you end up having to go to the ER or you have develop a medical problem, no fault of your own. But I'm constantly sort of aware of, A, how we're living our lives. I'm obviously, I'm not a helicopter parent at all, but I will say that I'm very, very mindful of what my kids are doing. yeah because you know someone else can naively watch their kids and I'm like yeah if he falls right there he's got a broken arm and he's going to have to go to the hospital I don't want it I don't

want him to have that experience in the PGR at 5 p.m. on a Saturday so hey you know Grayson my son like you know let let's do that over here where if you do fall you're falling into grass and so I'm very you know my kids are never on any sort of bike or anything without a helmet on yeah Mainly because I'm trying to teach those habits. But the biggest thing is, like I, to the best of my ability, I try to use all those little lessons that I've learned as a doctor and implement them in my own life. And then, of course, the beauty is obviously a lot of my friends are doctors.

And some of my best friends in Nashville are doctors. And two years ago, not to make this all about medicine, but I have genetic high blood pressure. and a couple years ago we'd had Dylan my wife got COVID so she she was like laid up in bed so for like five days straight Dylan was maybe two months old I had grace and Dylan full-time parent and on the fifth day I went into atrial fibrillation oh my gosh and um you know I thought I was super healthy here I'm 50 at the time I was 50 but yeah I've developed some high blood pressure, but overall, I'm healthy. I feel pretty good, but obviously exhausted from parenting, everything else, probably drink a little too much wine at night during bath time routine. I get it.

But I go into eight through a fibrillation, and it's pretty cool that my two best friends in town are just great, great people, but also really smart people. Yeah. And, you know, I'm in a fib. My wife puts her Apple Watch on. I got all these traces, like, I can't get out of it. And I'll be honest with you. I'm like, Paris, I'm just going to, I'm just going to sit here and wait. So she calls my best friend. Next thing you know, like, he's at my doorstep five, 10 minutes later with his wife. His wife, like, comes in, take care of our kids. He throws me in the car. Next thing you know, like, we're, we're on the way to the hospital. Long story short, there are like so many, I don't know what I'm saying other than to say, like, I feel very blessed to have.

learn the lessons I've learned. And one of the most important lessons I've learned is it's not just about being friends with doctors, but it's being friends with people that, like, if you have your time of need, they're there for you. Moments know. So the fact that they're willing to, like, drop everything, come over and, like, take you to the hospital is pretty awesome.

Yeah. And that's the huge thing for me is knowing and understanding that having that around me, which is probably because I spent, you know, so many years practicing the ER is a huge bonus for me at this stage in life with kids, being a little bit older. So, yeah, I mean, that is one of those things to this day where I, like, you'll never see me without my watch now. Oh, wow. Right. Yeah, it gives you your readouts and everything else you need, right? Yeah, that's crazy.

And I'm glad you found your community people. That's so important in life. I feel like connection is everything. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,

so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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So for your wife, I'm sure you've been asked this question before. Did she watch the show? Did she know who you were? from before like from the bachelor i guess were you and where did you meet like before doctor much later so she she was a i trained at vanderbilt and then she was a van derbyt trained lawyer and a mutual friend of ours who uh was on the bachelor's believe it or not chris stramberg you may remember his his moniker was chris cupcake he was on kately yes the cupcake guy yes I do you learn that guy.

It's like the irony of how life ends up evolving. So Chris came on the doctors to do a few dental health tips. Came on a few different times. I became friends with him. He lived in Nashville. And he set me and my wife up on a date. And yeah, here we are. That's so crazy.

I didn't know you were set up by somebody from The Bachelor. Like it actually happened because of the Bachelor. That is crazy. You know, it's funny how this works out. because, and look, for all the blessings and curses of bachelordom, if you will, my roommate when I went on The Bachelor, so I've got a couple stories. Like my roommate when I went on the Bachelor, you know, we're both ER residents. Yeah.

One night, and I rarely went out, but one night for my birthday, all my friends took me out. And of course, it was chaos. This was like a month after the Bachelor. Well, my roommate ends up meeting his wife that night. Amazing. They're now married with two. kids. I have like three or four different stories where, again, it wasn't the part that showed up on TV, but by going on The Bachelor, there are a minimum of four to five people married right now

because I went on The Bachelor. And so it's really cool that this, again, however imperfect these journeys are. Yeah. Yeah. Whether it's, you know, Trista, you and Ryan meet on the show and you stay together. You know, Bob, I know you've had some ups and downs in the, you know, in relationships. Oh, yeah. But it's kind of cool how through all of that, you can go back to your experience in the bachelor and say, yeah, unequivocally, there are happy, married people in the world with kids because I did that.

Yeah. You could go down the rabbit hole even further. I mean, because of the bachelor, you end up on the doctors, right? but, and I can only imagine you probably saved, I would guess, millions of lives, if not thousands, by some of the advice you gave on the show and the way that you would have resonated with people at home. And, I mean, we could, we could do this all day, but I bet we could find even more like direct connections of things that you've had an impact on just with your, you know, with your practice and everything else. I think it's pretty spectacular. I will tell you, though, I did take notes per Travis, be friends with more doctors.

That's my note. That's one note I have so far. And I'm, and I'm going to do that. You know, being older dads, we got to, we got to listen to each other, man. We got to share the wealth. Just Bob do this, though. Be a considerate friend to your doctor friend. So don't want, you know, that wants prescriptions.

Yeah, call it 2 a.m. Be like, oh, I can't sleep. Hey, will you, will you phone in a sleep med for me? Yeah, can I get some, I don't even know what you use to sleep, but whatever people use to sleep. Dude, I love, I love having you on the show because I feel like we've been. best buddies forever. And it's like it's crazy because it's like, you know, one of those things where you think you know someone, you know, from the experiences that you share in common, but you really

don't. And then as you get to know them, I mean, I've always really liked who I think you are. And then after having you on the show, I'm like, this is my guy. Like, I'm going to, next time I'm in Nashville, I'm calling him, you know, because it's like, yeah, I just feel like it's one of those things, you know, I think, and I, was it Lacey Pemberton that cast you when you did the show? Do you remember was that was that the casting person um no was not lacy okay because i was going to say i don't i mean she may have still been a part of it but it was some um yeah was someone who was at a national restaurant um uh yeah one of those yeah like i have to say the connections for Travis so Travis went to my rival high school oh i did not know this i went to parkway central

Yes. I'm sure I saw him in a football game or two, basketball or something. Isn't that weird, like to think that we probably were at the same place at the same time back in 1989 or something? That is crazy. You can tell the truth. I was at the Parkway Central West High School football game rivalry. I asked you on a date and you said no. And I said, I'm going to show her someday I'm going to become the bachelor. but you beat me to it and we're on the bachelor's got in oh my gosh that would be so funny that would be crazy crazy if things can happen really you know the parkway central and parkway west are i was i probably lived as close to central as i did to west i mean a few miles apart yeah i mean right because they're so close and and one who lives in st louis knows like this first thing you ask is when you meet someone where'd you go to high school and your rivals back in the day, but now I'm like, oh, dude, you went to Parkway Central? That's incredible. I know. I love it. Do you ever get back? Do you ever get back to you still have

family there? I don't. I haven't been back in so long. How about you? Yeah, I went back last year. My best friend lost her mom, so I went back for her funeral. But my dad's still there. I just haven't been back a lot. I should go back more. You know, it's just with kids and their schedules. Hockey and dance mom, that's me. And it's just hard to travel when the school season is happening. So I wish.

So first of all, I'm sorry for your friends lost, but. Oh, thank you. How, like, I can't believe you put your kids' needs in front of your own. Yeah, what the hell, Trista? Come on. We should just call this entire episode of like who we were versus who we are. Yeah. Instagram versus reality.

For real. And honestly, you said something in the beginning about, you know, we're only going to have our kids for a little bit. I have been like on this path of really focusing in on that because Max will be a junior next year in high school and Blake'sley will be a sophomore. And I, they have been my identity. You know, Bachelorette was my identity. back you know early 2000s and now it's like I am a mom that's that's who I am and to think that they're

not going to be here like we just went on a family vacation because we were talking about it and Ryan said you know they're only going to be around for a couple more years to do like family trips like this and not that we couldn't while they're in college obviously or if they go to college whatever they do after high school but he said that and I was like okay we're going on vacation that's it I don't care how much money it costs like I'm just going to make it work so um it's so hard you just it seems like you're in it and um you're enjoying it and i say just continue to do that it's um it makes life worthwhile and i just wish we could hold on to them more although i love that they get to spread their wings and fly soon so well your your clothes are you know that that is the

age where you've your hard work is in many ways done you know and that's pretty awesome it's funny and bob you can probably test this i have to catch myself sometimes from saying gosh you know i can't wait till they're a little bit older and can feed themselves yeah flowed themselves and bathe themselves but then i hear true story talking about your kids and i'm like oh my gosh it's my daughter's birthday today. I wish it wasn't. I wish she was. It goes by so quick. I know. It goes by too fast. I do. I feel exactly that way. Yeah, I feel exactly that way, dude. I was going to say, I generally, I look at Trista's children who are so beautiful and accomplished. And it's like, you know, I'm like, oh, I wonder what my boys are going to turn out to be like, you know, I hope, you know,

I hope they want to do this. I hope they want to do that. But I've got to slow myself down, like what Travis said. And I got, I got to allow myself to enjoy the ride. sometimes because it's like, you know, Grayson is at this point now, and I'm sure you're going through it now, too, Travis, where he, I have full on conversations with him. Like, he is my guy. Like, we'll be driving along, talking about the day. And I don't need anybody else, you know. And then along comes Blake. And now Blake will be like, you know, Blake's the really soft sensitive one. I'm like, I love you, Daddy. And I'm like, oh, I'm like ready to cry 10 times a day. You know, it's like, and I think that happens to guys as we get older. I'll talk to

my Dr. Travis Stork after the show to go personal consultation on this one. but I swear to you, I become an emotional basket case as I get older with everything that happens with the boys. Like, I'm constant like, oh my God, look at him. I'm so proud. He's all grown stuff. He's five, you know. So it's kind of funny, right?

I don't want him to grow up either, but I do want, like Trista said, I want to see him spread their wings, but it's tough. Well, the difference there, Bob, also is, yeah, my son fully cognizant, great conversations. By the way, thank you guys for not telling me that my wife's name was on. I didn't see that. I was like, oh, my goodness. I didn't think anything of it. Mine doesn't even have a name.

Mine's like a weird code. I don't even know what it's like. But it's funny. I look down like, yep, no, I'm not Paris. So the way I knew that my son was, you know, fully competent of having conversations with me is not from having wonderful fatherly son conversations. It's when we're in traffic now.

He's like, move your foot. freaking car because I'm an impatient driver and if we're like the lights green in the car in front of us just sitting there I'm like dude move your freaking car come all my son now does that I'm like yeah I'm such a good dad I mean wow my son's so he's almost four but yeah you know I'm teaching him all these invaluable lessons like impatience screaming screaming at the drivers of other cars who won't hit the gas pedal that's so good do you know what i feel like i am now in the point of my life where i'm actually cussing again like i wasn't cussing for so long because i didn't want them to pick up those bad habits and now i'm like they're teenagers they're doing it on their

they're they're cussing to their friends i'm just going to cuss so there's actually some freedom in that yeah i'm still not you're going to drop drop an f bomb right now Trista? Oh, yeah. You know, actually, I just watched this Instagram video, one of those four use that pops up. And there was this little girl who's looking outside and she goes, mom, there's a goat. There's a fucking goat. Oh my God. And the mom is like, no, it's not. And she goes, yes, it's a fucking goat. Oh, my God. All you got to do is, all you got to do is let your kids watch a Disney movie, which I'm sure Travis is in the throes of them as well right now. But like, oh, yes.

In cars. So my son, Blake, I'll be changing his diaper. I'll like, hey, buddy. And he'll go, you fool, you idiot. And I'm like, I'm changing your diaper. Like, that's not how we talk to people who are in diaper duty, bud. But it's like every Disney movie has a moment where they throw the word idiot out, I swear, or a fool. And Blake uses it like crazy.

It's like his favorite adjective, you know? And so we're just, I don't even know if it's an adjective. I'm not the grammar police here today. I whatever type of word it is uh he uses it he uses it very freely and fluidly and it's just abusive like I'm like why is my two and a half year old calling me an idiot all the time you know so yeah I'm very careful being a parent you know is uh it's sort of that classic you know sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me as a parent it's you know poop in my face will really suck but you can say whatever you want if I'm changing your diaper and you don't

don't, like, grab your poop and throw it at me. This is a win. Call me a fool. Call me an idiot. I don't care. Just let me get this diaper changed. Let's, like, contain the poop. Let's not having up the backer here.

Let's just keep it real simple. Let's wipe the butt. Let's get everything clean. And, yeah, I'll be your fool, whatever. But let's get this diaper on. Do that. And it's like, ooh. Yeah.

So true. Don't hurt me. My wife told our friends this weekend who I'll have older kids. she said something and she goes, wait, so you guys don't play the fun family game? Is it poop or is it chocolate? Because that's what we play at the Ginnie House and 79.4% of the time is chocolate.

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no one watches it anymore. Right, Bob? Yeah, yeah. I feel like most people don't. So I love that you're like sometimes, you know? Yeah. Well, it depends. My way.

still finds it incredibly entertaining and I think it's one of those things where it'll often be on the background she'll put it on but to be honest with you you know it really does depend

on the season she'll be watching like oh my gosh you have to watch and it's usually this it's whoever the penultimate I don't want to say character because none of us are characters but like everyone wants to ascribe one meaning to

the franchise. Here's the deal. Every single journey is so unique, genuinely. And whenever the bachelor or a bachelor or in the case of Jerry the Golden Bachelor, whenever it's someone who's likable, we kind of get drawn into it because even though it's crazy, it's chaos, it's not real world, all this other stuff. The truth is, during that moment, during that journey, if someone's having like an authentic experience or a cool person, I get invested. The Golden Bachelor's a great example. I was like, this is really, you know, do I agree with everything going on? No, you know, would I tell four people in the same day, I love them or whatever? Like, no, probably not. But I really like Jerry. I really like this. I hope this works out. Does it often? No.

But when I, when my wife and I sort of get drawn in, it's usually because they're just some really, really good folks. Yeah. Yeah. To me, the, the seasons. where I literally don't watch one second of it because my wife isn't interested. It's honestly, it's when the people tend to be assholes. And you can tell it's superficial and they suck. And you're like, yeah, I don't give a shit. What happens? Because these people suck.

And when they're nice and cool, good personality is genuine, I'm like, I hope this worked out for them. Yeah, same. Because you're living proof that it can't. Yeah. And every, I know just that every single moment of every day since then has been pure bliss.

There's never been a moment. Oh, pure. Oh, yeah. Pure bliss. Yep, that's right. Yep, that's right. That's all she had to say about that one. No, I mean, I feel like marriage is freaking hard, you know.

Life is hard. It's hard being a parent. It's hard just existing in the world sometimes. So I, yeah, I am very thankful that we have gotten through the downs that we've had in our life and enjoy the highs as much as possible. But it's hard, but you're right. I am so drawn to the people. And I watch everything. So I'll watch even the bad seasons or what we're calling kind of bad seasons of the people that people aren't necessarily drawn to.

But I am like with Gary, like with Joey, freaking love Joey and this season. girls and just the like camaraderie it reminded me of my season with the guys like people got along although there was drama still like in the end how the girls came together i just love seeing humanity and authenticity and kindness and so i'd love more of that on the show and it seems like you do too trust do you know um or bob how did the last season rate because you know the world of TV is interesting. And I think there was a period of time, certainly before I went on the show, there were a couple seasons before, at least the one right before, where it was all about just taking

shots off of, like, naked bodies. And it, like, didn't rate well. And I think one of the reasons why I ended up getting castes. And, you know, I was out of that restaurant in Nashville, and someone came up, started talking to my group. And the person casting, without us knowing who's showing. She was like, you're a doctor. And the reason I bring that up is there was a notable shift towards, at least on my season,

towards being genuine and like some people might call that boring. That's why I'm always curious that I looked recently. But like I know the Golden Bachelor did really well because I thought it was genuine. And the storytelling is genuine and legit. I'm curious, do you guys know with Joey's season? Did it go well? Because I didn't watch a lot of it. But what I did, he's super likable guy.

And the women on the season seem really genuine. Like I hope it rated well because it did. Yeah. It was like a return to the OG days. Really? I mean, it kind of was a little bit of a return to that. I think Golden Bachelor, and we talked a lot about this, but one of the things I loved about Golden Bachelor was the age-appropriate casting

because it could have been a, you know, it could have been a circus. And then they roll that into Joey's season. And it's a really sincere, sweet and fun. guy who's not afraid to take a couple shots at himself and, you know, whatever. And it was, it was a return to, I think, what made the show so great so many years ago. And hopefully they keep that, that vibe going. You know, I think they will. I think they're pretty smart, right?

They realize they've, they got lightning in a bottle again with the Golden Bachelor formula. Now, maybe they'll, like, apply that to the seasons again. I think they just, they maybe just got to a point where they wanted to try something new for a couple of years and it took off. And it was like drama central, you know, nobody wanted it. I'll say one controversial thing. Any line of work, they're really smart people and really dumb people.

There are a lot of really dumb people in L.A. But also those smart ones. And it's interesting, having now spent, I mean, I spent a lot of time out there. And it's amazing how sometimes the dumbest voices in the room carry the day. Yeah. And common sense or, practical, anyone with a normal mind is like, yeah, you know, if you're making TV,

if all you're thinking about is like a certain demographic out in L.A., it's not going to work. You have to be thinking, Trista, the folks in St. Louis, you know, like how this plays out? And it's just funny because obviously 12 years on the doctors, being the Bachelor, and in between, you guys have done all the stuff where you just spend so much time you're on different shows, you're doing all this stuff. and you meet some really phenomenal, smart people who seem to make really good decisions about making good TV. And then you make others, meet other people. And you're like, why would you do that?

Yeah. So true. I'm so dumb. Yeah. It's like, you know, the majority of the population out there isn't out here, right? It's in the middle. It's what we call the flyover states, right? That's who's watching the shell.

So, yeah, I agree with you on that one. There's definitely, there needs to be a return to a little bit more of the. the wholesome programming i think they'll be surprised at how good it goes you know yeah i hope they do that with golden bachelorette i i'm hoping just to see more of that but um Travis it was a pleasure reconnecting i'm so happy that you found happiness and so happy for couldn't happen to a nicer guy and your babies um and Nashville actually Ryan and max are going to be in Nashville at the end of the month for a hockey tournament um so i i wish i was going i'm going to vegas for nine days for a dance competition Vegas for nine days wish me luck um anyway i couldn't last if ryan needs anything

while he's here let me know um it's always so uh as we as we end this conversation you know the funny thing about it is going back in time when i did the bachelor i was i felt like i was on an island, you know, being a doctor and all this other stuff. And I just, I just wanted to sort of separate myself from it. Yeah. And now with time having passed, it's so fun talking to YouTube, because we are who we are now. We have this unique experience that we all had together, even though it's different. It's just, we know things and had experiences that very few people will ever have, even though it's different. It's really cool. It's like going to a reunion. I know. And me.

or hanging out with the people that you went to school with, but you didn't know them that well in school, but you're like, it turns out we have a lot in common because we went to the same school and took some of the same classes. And maybe we were a year apart, but like, hey, yeah, oh my gosh, I went to my reunion and I met some great people

where I hung out with people I didn't know very well or like with Trista. We talked a bunch, but it's good to like, I haven't talked to in freaking a decade maybe. A long time. I know. I thought about your number.

I was like, I can't find it. I don't have his number. I don't know why. I feel like we talked. I still have the 970 number. I still have the- Oh my God, you do so do why.

But yeah, you guys appreciate the time talking to y'all. It was a lot of fun. And Bob, yeah, if you ever head this way, feel free to look me up. I will, man. A lot of big parties happening over here, man. I'm sure. Big parties. I'm sure they go out.

They probably start when I'm already going to bed. Yeah, I've already played a wicket. They started at four and they end at six, and they involve balloons and other fun things. This sounds like my guy to party. This is awesome. Definitely. Thank you for joining us on the OGs, dude. It was such a pleasure having you on the show.

And, man, I'm so thankful that we got a chance to talk and catch up. And let's not make it take so long next time. All right, y'all. Take care, man. Be well. Awesome. Bye, Travis. Have a great day.

Cheers. Gosh, what a good. great guy, huh? Love him. I've always loved him. I mean, obviously St. Louis Roots and then he was in Colorado for a bit. And, yeah, he is just authentic, like, salt of the earth kind of people love. You know, isn't that been our experience? I honestly, God, I feel like people come on our show and we end up, like, every single one of them, you and I are at the end of like, I love that person. Like, honestly God. You're right. That's why I asked him. That's why I wanted to know

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