The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OGs: Mid Life Bachelor with JP Rosenbaum

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

Our Bachelor OGs Trista Sutter and Bob Guiney catch up with Season 7 Bachelorette winner JP Rosenbaum!  JP gets real about life since splitting from Ashley Hebert, and we hear his experience looking for love as a single dad. Plus, find out if we’d ever see JP make a return to the franchise… but as The Bachelor!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're here. We're back. We are back in effect. And we have a great OG with us, my man, J.P. What's going on, guys? JP, how are you, buddy? Thank you for joining us. You're very welcome.

Thanks for inviting me. This is fun. Oh, it's so fun. We get the old schoolers together, and we talk about, you know, walking uphill both ways to school and how things were tougher, you know, it's so much harder to find, you know, the perfect match with a rose back in the day. Right. That kind of stuff.

You got to do it the old-fashioned way, walking to a bar and actually meet somebody or, you know, a friend of a friend or. Come on. Good old days. It is kind of funny. I don't know about you guys, but, you know, when the whole app. dating thing first came out, you know, and they were always talking about it. I'm like, dude, that's just ridiculous.

Who would use an app to meet someone? And they're like, hey, dummy, you went on a TV show and handed out flowers. Hey, dummy. Oh, yeah, there's that. Sorry. I'm like, I did it the old-fashioned way. Yeah, we had the old-fashioned way. Now it's considered the old-fashioned way back then.

For sure, it was not. No, a little bit of a renegade. So how is life, JP? What's up? Life is good. is uh it's pretty stable and you know obviously as you get older it gets a little more this is the wrong word but different but a little more boring i would say you know but which is good you know the kids kind of consume everything and you know uh you kind of make the most of the time that you

have free which uh if you were a divorce it's it's it's you have a little more time free than when you're married but but either way it's life is good like happy kids are happy i'm happy where I'm in a good groove both socially and with work and I don't know I don't have much to complain about these days Yay and you're loving Miami I'm liking Miami a lot

This summer was nine years Since we moved down That's a long time It is a long time I hear at the 10 year mark is really where you start feeling like you're at home That's what they say But you know

I still every time I go back up to New York and I'm in the city or I'm on Long Island, it still feels like home to me. My extended family is still up there. So I love it down here. The quality of life is great. You know, everyone's like, well, would you move? Would you move?

And the short answer is yes, but I can't because the kids are here. Ash is not moving. So I'm not moving. So I am here for good. And I am enjoying life. And, you know, Miami and Florida in general is really a great quality of life. so no complaints. Yeah, I love it down there.

You know, about 20 years ago, I used to date a Miami Heat dancer. Oh, really? Look at you. Yeah. Isn't that, Trista, wasn't that, wasn't that who you dance for? Yeah.

Krista, wasn't there just a reunion or something? That's what you're all tea. I heard of that. I got to dance it. It was so much fun. It was so intimidating because I'm 50 years old. And I do not dance like, ever not like actually like i know ashley goes to like you know kind of like dance classes at the

gym right i didn't have that in veil when we were living there so like i haven't danced in forever and it was so much fun to be out on the court blakely came with me my daughter and she got to meet all the girls and be on the court too and it was it was so fun it's like Miami is, we'll always have a special place in my heart just because I spent seven years there. But, you know, it definitely is a unique place, I feel like. And so for me, it's good to like get there and visit. Yes. Yeah.

You don't like constantly having to wick away the sweat because that's, I will tell you, the one thing about Miami is it is brutal hot sometimes, you know? Right. And humid. The humidity. You know, everybody's always said the summers are so hot. The summers are so hot. And I got to tell you, for eight of the nine years, it never really bugged me.

You know, you move through air condition. This is the past summer was brutal, though. Really, really bad. Yeah, so bad. But you're in a boat a lot. Are you? Are you on a boat? I go fishing as much as I possibly can.

So I'm definitely on the water a lot. Yeah. You know, and you just kind of deal with it. It's just a part of life. And come October, November until April, you know, it's really gorgeous down here. Okay. I have to bring up the fact that on, I think on a recent story that you shared, you were taking the kids somewhere, maybe to see your family.

And they were complaining. They were not complaining about the cold, but they were, they were freezing. And it was like 80 degrees inside or something. Yeah, I was up in New York this weekend with the kids. And if it dips below 82, I mean, I'm, yeah, 70. for sure, but somewhere from the 78 to 82 range, they are, they're cold. They're just, they're cold.

You know, that's so funny. And they really aren't. It's just what happens. I remember the first time Ford saw, felt snow. He was so excited and happy and it was fun. And then the cold hit him, and he burst into tears. Yeah. Well, wait, so when, obviously, when everyone met you,

obviously, it was with Ashley and your season of the Bachelorette. And then you were living in New York at that time, right? So you both, did you both start in New York? I thought you did. So I was living and working in New York. Ashley, at the time, she went from her dental school at Penn to her pediatric dental residency, which was also in Philly. So we moved, we were briefly in New York together when we met.

And then we moved to Jersey, which was halfway between my work and her residency. lived there for two years and we had the option to move down to Miami for a minimum of four years at that time because I had a work, a work opportunity and we're like, if we don't like it, we'll come back. And so we moved and nine plus years later, we're still here. That's crazy. So that was actually for you that you got, I don't know why in my mind. I thought maybe that's where she was given an opportunity to practice or whatever. So that's really cool. It was, so you basically were like, let's do this. And so then she's, started her practice there. Yeah. So she had lived in Hawaii for a year and always knew she wanted to

live in a warm climate. And so this was an opportunity where we could live in a warm climate where I didn't have to really change much with work. And she could work, do what she does, really anywhere, there's a need for pediatric dentists. And, you know, at the time, she wasn't starting a practice, but she was joining one and there's always a need. So it seemed like a good fit. And we weren't married to it. It was, you know, four years and minimum for me, and we could always have moved back. But, yeah, that's awesome. That is awesome. And so the kids really only know living in Miami.

That's it. Forty was born here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Where was he born? Which hospital?

South Miami. Awesome. Sorry, I worked at a hospital. But he wouldn't have been at the hospital. I guess they don't deliver him. Anyway. So I have to ask, how is your health? I know you were diagnosed with Giambiore.

Diombray a while ago. How are you doing? I'm impressed you pronounce that the right way. I couldn't pronounce it. Yeah, she gets it. You know, it was, I was extraordinarily lucky where my case was diagnosed super fast. I was treated fast and they stopped the progression fast, which is really the key when it comes to that stuff. So my case, although I spent two months trying to walk again and tie my shoes and button buttons and PT and OT and spent some time and, you know, every day pretty much doing that stuff, there are stories where people stop breathing and they're on a ventilator for four months and they spend six months learning how to walk again. And so there, I was on the, I'm going to say, easier end of the spectrum and

super fortunate. But, you know, there's no, there's, I'm back to normal. I mean, I was pretty much back to normal within a couple of months. Yeah. And the odds of me getting it again are the same as me getting it in the first place. Oh, that's what I was going to ask. Is there any chance you could? Yeah, no, I think it's like 150, $200,000, something like that. Do they know why you contract it?

Not contract. Yeah, is it genetic? Is it a genetic thing? There's nothing on genetics. They say, you know, generally it stems from you're battling an illness the week before and the antibodies that are fighting that illness then turn. on the nerves in your body. And I remember it vividly because the week before, it was our anniversary and we were away,

but like I was deathly ill with some sort of stomach bug. And then a week later, it happened. Oh, my gosh. That is so crazy. I didn't realize that about it. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Some people think it's tied to like vaccines.

I don't know if there's any data on that. But yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm glad it's healthy. I'm glad. So how is, you know, obviously we have to talk about the divorce because this is a Bachelor podcast and you guys got worse. And I know that people are interested in kind of knowing your story. But how are things with you? Do you guys, are you, I know your amazing co-parents. Are you guys friends? Are you in touch other than like, have. having to exchange the kids? How is life with you guys? Life is good. It's very stable. You know, she and I, it's, it's civil. We're friendly. There's no, you know, there's, you know, we don't hang out, right? It's not like we're friends, but, but, um,

there's an open line of communication. We text or talk or some sort of communication almost every day and yes it's all kid related but um you know there's there's no resentment there's no anger there's no um sort of you know ill will uh you know that actually took much longer for me to get past than than her for sure um but uh no the the the relationship is civil and stable and friendly and fine just fine we're making it work okay i said it when we had we had ashley on I actually said it. I was like, even if you want the divorce, divorce is still really hard. And so it's like, you know, going through it, you're still undoing a family to a certain degree and figuring out how to, you know, everyone says co-parent, but almost like co-brand that family

moving forward. Like, okay, here's how we're going to try and do this. And it's never what it was. So it's always a challenge, I think. And, you know, I mean, I've been a divorce guy also. So I understand that feeling, even though, even though I knew it was the right thing. It wasn't necessarily something that I was all, you know, puppy dogs and ice cream about. You know, it takes time emotionally to get your life back in, to get back in charge of your feelings about your life and about that person. A hundred percent. I mean, I think that I had a, I can't speak for her, but I know I had, it seemingly I had a much harder time with it post-divorce than she did. I think, you know, in her mind, she, she was there already, like towards the end of the marriage.

And for me, it was just, I had a, I just had a really tough time, you know, for the following year, year and a half, just accepting it. Yeah. Not because I was still in love with her, just because you have this image of what you want your life and your marriage and your family to be. And that gets shattered. And it's like, is this really my new reality? And like, this is not what I want.

And so it's a constant battle, you know, and emotionally, mentally. And it just took me, took me a while to get to get past it. Well, I was going to say when you're in the public eye, too, there's a little bit of, at least I went through this embarrassment. You know, like, I was, I don't know if it was, I know it was self-imposed. I mean, I know I was doing it to myself, but I was just like, oh, my God, I've let all these people down or I've done all this kind of stuff. And I think, you know, I think people feel that even if they're not in the public eye, but it definitely is sort of amped up a little bit when you are, you know. Yeah, you know, we've, I mean, historically, we never really felt any pressure with that. I think, I think I was more, I felt like I let myself down and I let my kids down, you know,

like that I, that I had, that I grew up in this seemingly perfect, you know, four person family with my parents and my brother and the house and the, you know, and, um, and I felt like I ruined that for them initially, right? I don't feel that way now, but I felt like I ruined that for them and, and just accepting, like, is this it? Is this, is this? So now I'm that guy that's divorced. and now I have two kids and looking for love again.

It's just, it felt very surreal and I didn't accept it for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. How are the kids doing with it? They've always been great with it. You know, our process for divorce was very drawn out because we had made the decision right before COVID hit. And then we're like, well, now what do we do?

We're supposed to get divorced, but the kids are coming up from school. What do we sell the house? Like so there were so we had a drawn-out process where I was, you know, living in the guest room and then she moved down. And I moved down. We sold the house. So the whole divorce process was spread out over a year and a half, maybe more. Oh gosh. That's a long time.

Yeah, it was. So the kids didn't see an abrupt, we're getting divorced. Mom's moving out. And it was never like that. And plus they were also younger too. So they always handled it very, very well. And now they know mom and dad are divorced and we split time. and they know they're split days and so they're yeah they're they've always been accepting of it

which uh is one big you know level of relief us yes i said i think it says a lot about you two as parents too though i mean you know i can't it's probably oh i know it's never easy on anybody but the way you two handle it and the way you two are with one another i'm sure kind of trickles down you know they they see mom and dad so being really good to one another and being caring and sweet people, which you both are. So I'm sure that probably helps a lot, you know. Yeah, we made certainly conscious efforts to not show emotion. I shouldn't say not show emotion. If Ashley and I were disagreeing or felt a certain way, it never, you know, it was never shown in front of the kids. It was always happy. This is the way it is. You love your mom. You love your dad. We love you. It's it was

always, it was always full of love. And they wouldn't know any different aside. from the fact that we weren't living together. Right. Good. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

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Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

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crap ton of haters coming at her. Did you get the same thing? Like anything like? No. No. No. I mean, it was relatively quiet post-divorce. You know, there was obviously the comments we're here.

for you. I'm sorry to hear that. I mean, I'm in a part of that stuff. I don't remember reading anything or like you, you know, maybe there was the occasional, you ruined a marriage and you walked away from your kids had, like maybe there was an occasional one of those,

but it's kind of blow it off. You don't really listen to it. Yeah, you take the go to the bad in those moments, right? But it was certainly not overwhelming. It's the point where I can't remember any of them. But I do remember all the positive, you know, the positive feedback that I got just are you a more like positive guy because I feel like Ashley and I are pretty

very similar in the fact that we're pretty sensitive and like I if I would get any kind of hate like the one out of a hundred out of a thousand I focus on that one you know what I mean yeah do you feel like if she got like one like you were saying you might have gotten one that she would have more focused on that and you were able to kind of get past it. Look, those can be overwhelming, right? You could get five out of five thousand and all of a sudden you want to start responding to these people and like, and they get you all amped up.

They certainly get you more amped up than the positive one. So sure, it's possible that there were a handful that that made it seem like there were a lot. Look, I don't know. She didn't really share that with me at the time. So, but yeah, you get that one that you really want to respond to. I was like, what's the point? Should I really respond? Does it? I know. Like, you're just creating this unnecessary, just stress. So, and I probably used to be like that, but, but these days, like,

I just, I just don't give a crap. That's good. I think you go through enough in life, right? You start prioritizing the someone sitting behind the keyboard just trying to get your, you know, your go. It's like, right. Yes. Right. You're giving more fuel if you respond. you know right totally yeah um okay so dating are you dating uh i'm not dating anyone at the moment okay no for i had a it's been a very interesting few years because i was not accepting mentally and emotionally of the divorce for for a while and that certainly impacted my ability to connect with women you know i mean i remember just going out on dates just to go through the motions because like I needed it for me you know and even if I and then

I realized fairly quickly like I'm not ready for anything like and so and I also you know not in my 20s anymore either so it's not like I'm just looking to go out and have fun you know like that's that's that's not what I that's not what I want either um so especially in Miami we have to be careful down here you definitely have to be careful then I mean and you certainly can have a lot of fun but not that I'm not having fun, but, you know, I'm older. I know what I want. I'm not, you know, I'm not, but I was not in a place for a while to really get anywhere. And so, you know, for a good year, year and a half, who knows, I just, I couldn't connect. Like, I would meet women. I'd go out on dates and, uh, but I just couldn't get there. Um, yeah. Now I'm just at a place where

I have connected with, with women and, and, you know, there are, there is potential, but it comes in ways, right? Like, there have been three, four, five months stints, and then it, it either fizzles or dies for some reason that makes a lot of sense, like, oh, you're not sure if you want kids and I want kids and there's that whole kind of thing. So, but overall, I'm at least in a good place to date these days. Yeah. Are you saying you want more kids? I am saying that no, I don't, but I feel like I tell, I say the same thing to everyone. It's very difficult for me to put myself in a position of, oh my God, I'm in love with you. Of course, you want to have a kid. Yes, let's have, let's have a baby. Like, I can't, I don't know what my brain and my heart will

feel like in that moment. Yeah. But I'm also, but I'm not looking for a family. Like, I'm not looking to have kids. Yeah, you have your kids. Right. Yeah. Right. So, you know, and that answer is not really, I mean, it's honest, but it's not really what a lot of women want to hear. Like, they want a very popular answer. Like, I want to start a family. Like, I don't think I want that, but I can't tell you how I will feel in that moment. So I've had a handful that, like, I just can't continue to see you because you're just not, you're just not sure.

And I'm like, I get it, you know. Yeah. Totally. It's such a different, I would imagine. So I was, how old are you, JP? How old are you? 46. Okay, so I was 40. What was I? 41 when I got divorced or 40, something like that. No, I was, I was younger than that. Anyway, I was a really old GP, so he can't remember her. Yeah, I'm 52. Yeah, I'm 52. The first thing that goes to memory, but I remember I was probably late 30s when I got divorced. And I remember even then thinking to myself, like, you know, but I didn't have children at the time. And now that I do, if I put myself back in that place, like, oh, if I'm all of a sudden single with a couple of kids, I just don't know what, I don't know how I would react either.

I feel like, you know, it's great that you're so mindful about it, though. I think that's a big part of it, right, is to know who you are and know what you want and, you know, be prepared to deal with however the chips fall, I suppose. Yeah, it's definitely limiting. Yeah. But at the same time, you don't want to get involved with someone and spend three, four, five, six months and then realize, like, I'm still, still don't want a kid and you still do. And now you've just wasted six months.

And so, so yeah, I mean, it's the only way to go these days. I don't know, I don't know any other way to do it. It would be a lot easier if I was, you know, 28 to 32. And even if I had a kid at that age or didn't, like, it'd be a lot easier. But it's, it's challenging. Yeah. What, so we recently had Deanna on and we were, her and I were at, or me and her, how do you say that? Anyway, we were at the, she and me, she and I, she and I, she and I.

She and I. Yeah. Yeah, because you would say because I was at that. Exactly. Take off the second one and how does it sound? Exactly. Yeah, there you go. For the English lesson, boys.

So we were just at the Mentelaw for the current season of The Bachelorette, and we were joking with the producers and probably not just joking. It was probably a little bit serious on her part, but talking about since they're doing a golden bachelor, would they do a like midlife bachelor if they'd, did, would you ever go back and do it like that? Look, I don't close any doors, right? Okay. It would be very difficult to say yes or something like that just because the logistics with

the kids in my career. I don't know what that would look like. Yeah. So just to be like, no, I would never. No, I can't say that, but like, I don't, it's not likely. I don't know how to make all that work. But, you know, the older I get, the more I realize that you just. Like, live your life, have fun, and make the most of it because the older you get, the fewer

opportunities there are to do things that are unique and fun. And so, you know, I look at my parents that are getting older that they're a little restricted and what they can do. And so, you know, I'm not going to say no, you know, but it's certainly not what I want. Right. There were a couple of Golden Bachelor jokes thrown my way, by the way, just saying. Oh, I'm sure. Sure. I'm sure. Will you watch? Have you seen the like promos? Will you watch? Do you watch it all? I haven't watched in years. I mean, that would be my guess. I feel like most of the people who are in our age don't necessarily watch these days if they've been part of the show. I just feel like it's harder to connect with the people who are in their 20s when you're in such a different place in your life. So that's why I'm excited about Gary's season. you know, and I feel like I can relate more to the 60-year-olds than I can to 20-year-olds. No, I don't, yeah.

Oh, man, that's, I hadn't thought about it that way before. Yeah, right. If I find myself with nothing to do on a Monday night and it's on, would I watch a little bit of it? Maybe just out of curiosity, but I'm certainly not setting my, my BBR, what are they called these days? Yeah, right. It's not recording. Just as a funny throwback, JP, so my season of the, my whole season of The Bachelor, and I think Trista, when I was on Trista season as well, my brother-in-law saved on his newfangled recording device back then called TiVo. He's like, yeah, this is going to be around forever.

This thing's going to be amazing. Well, when my wife and I got together, she's like, well, I want to see you a season because I was in high school, you know. So we put it on and we can't figure out how to hook it into the new, like the new smart TVs. When we finally get one of the things plugged in, it's like in black and white, which she thought was great because she was like, you know, oh, yeah, back in your day. And I'm like, whatever, dude. It ended up being like just a disaster.

So yeah, like when you said DVR, it just triggered me because I'm like, oh, yeah. But dude, what is it called these days? You can't even get yours on YouTube. Like there's no one. I don't think so. I don't think they made mine into it. I mean, I don't know.

I don't know what happened there. I don't think so either. I'll get a clip from someone now and then, but I feel like it's like from Hulu or something. Yeah. That's funny. Something like that. Somebody said they replayed my season not too long ago on Hulu.

That is what they would be. Yeah. But it doesn't live there. Like you can't go there whatever you want to watch it. It's like, you know, appointment viewing, I think. Right. Right. Like in the communities down near Miami that are for the elderly folk, you know,

like shuffleboard and okra. You know, that's appointment viewing. I'm going to move up to Boca for that, though. There you go. There you go. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating.

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My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

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they're out of school yeah oh yeah um their school only goes up to fifth grade so they'll have to change schools going into middle school but uh yeah you know actually brought up to me the other day for the first time would i ever consider moving a little bit further north uh in florida like up to you know for lauderdale boca del ray and um you know it's something that we've started talking about uh Not that we have to move together, but, you know, that's an hour commute each direction. If we were both open to doing it, then maybe we would do it just to, you know, get the kids in a little bit better of a school and a different cost of living up there. And so we'll see. But right now, we're sticking, stay and put.

And your job is pretty secure. Like, didn't you just start, I feel like you just posted too. Didn't you just start a new project? Oh, yeah. But my, I do, so I do real estate development in every different phase of a development. This just happens to be one that we broke ground on for the first time in a while. Oh, got it. And that's down to Miami.

So, yeah, I would have to come down to Miami to service some of my clients and some of my projects down here. But, you know, people commute. Like, Boca's as far north as I would go. But we just started talking about it. Who knows if it's going to happen. Yeah, I remember back in the show, you were construction management back then as well. So you've always stayed in that world, huh?

I have. I flip-flop back and forth between the construction and the development side for a while. And then I've just been on the development. inside for, I don't know, 10, 12 years at this point, maybe even more, you know. Gotta be easier on the, on the joints and the bones. Well, I was never, I mean, I was never, you know, I never, you were swinging a hammer. I wasn't swinging a hammer installing drywall, you know, plumbing. No, no, no, it was more the management role.

Sure. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm curious to know if the fact that you were in the public eye, do you feel like it played a part in your divorce at all? Not at all. No.

Because you guys were pretty, I mean, pretty private. Like, I don't, you weren't constantly on social and, you know, yeah, you know, we went back to, she went back to her career, I went back to mine. And, you know, we would do, obviously, the occasional things, the promotions, and we'd have fun and show the best parts of life on Instagram like everybody else generally does. Yeah. I'm sure she would say the same thing, but we never felt any show or public pressure to stay together or not tell the truth or any of that it didn't know did you guys why why am i blanking on this

i feel like we talked about it did you go on celebrity boot camp or boot camp yes yes that's what i thought i was like i feel like we probably talked about it before you went on just to say okay if you do it this is what you need to know going in it was a money grab like it was three weeks it would help it would help pay off her loans like it was it was a pure money grab and it had like we had didn't have any or seemingly didn't have any issues at the time and we didn't even we found out we were pregnant with Essie while we were there filming oh no kidding oh my gosh I didn't know that yeah yeah oh my gosh um yeah it was really fun wait do we find out we were pregnant or we found out no sorry we found out she was a girl when we were there oh got you

knew we were pregnant before we went on the show which I don't think we were supposed to do but and but we did whatever whatever yeah so you don't feel like it played like any no no no that had nothing to do it that was pure like well if they're going to pay us this we probably should just to consider it right heck yeah yeah well yeah any opportunity like that that's kind of how we were um even not knowing what it was going into it i do feel like it had they they gave us a lot of great advice you know we came out of it um with a couple friends and some good advice but other than that it was kind of like a vacation not us They passed the spectrum, right?

And we were at one end of the spectrum, you know, like, and then you can imagine the other end of the spectrum being not us. So I wouldn't say we connected with anybody. And it was all so fast. Like, I don't remember any. I mean, I couldn't tell you one lesson I learned from it, unfortunately. Oh, gosh. Okay.

Well, it's all good. Oh, seven years ago, eight years ago. I mean, it's hard to remember yesterday. I think. First thing it goes is the memory, guys. It's first thing. And the eyes. It looks blurry in the background, too, for all three.

No, it actually is it? Oh, is it? Okay. Just make it sure. But JP, man, thank you so much for joining us. And thanks for being a part of us with us. And great to catch up on where you're at in life. And I've always just thought, I remember you and I met years and years ago at one of our

buddy, Graham Bunn's things he was doing down, right in the heart of Manhattan. And I remember walking away from that thing going, God, that guy is just as awesome as I knew he'd be on TV. It was like, you're such a salt of the earth guy. So it's great to hear that you're doing well. And I love that you and Ashley get along and are doing it right for the kids too. I think that's so important. So congrats on everything, buddy. Thanks.

And you guys are ever in Miami, Trista, did you get to connect with Ashley when you were here or no? I didn't. It was a pretty quick trip. And I tried, but she obviously was working. And actually, I think she might have been. traveling oh one more question have you met don't ask have you met her boyfriend i haven't actually almost got away from this we don't have enough time for that unfortunately oh we're out of time what a shame no i haven't met him but i hear good things and she's happy and that's all the matter

so okay well we'll leave it back what a gentleman and that's a wrap on almost famous the oh geez we hold these time these time things we go hard on these you should have led with that conversation I don't know why you didn't. What a shame. You know, I'd love to have you back on and we'll try to close with that question. I'd be happy to. And if you guys ever down to Miami, please let me know. We will, brother.

Take care of yourself, J.P. Great to talk. Bye, J.P. Take care. Bye. God, I love that guy. He is such a salt-of-the-earth guy. I love it.

Yeah, I totally agree. I remember times in New York with him too. And with Ashley, I mean, just getting together. Actually, we got together for a marriage boot camp, like an event that they were doing. And I got to meet the kids when they were tiny, tiny. And just, I was heartbroken when they broke up. I was too. That one for some reason, and I mean, I had only met them a couple times, but it really affected me.

I remember going, oh, they've got to be just going through it. And, you know, I mean, but, you know, I'm glad that they've come out the other end of it so well. I mean, obviously we spoke with Ashley a few weeks back. She's doing great. J.P. is doing great. Sounds like the kids are doing great. So, you know, there you go. I mean, I as a parent or a child of divorce, I feel like everything happens, you know, for a reason.

And I'm proud of them for, you know, being so great about it with each other, like just making sure that the kids are their priority. I feel like that's probably what I take away from how they co-parent, like you said. Like the kids are, they're everything. So I think that's important. Family first. I love it. All right. You've been listening to Almost Famous to OGs, our podcast.

I loved having JP on the show. And she's been Trista. And he's been Bob. And we'll see you next time. Bye. M-Wha. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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