The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Almost Famous OGs: Picked Off the Street with Ed Swiderski

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Trista Sutter is going back to The Bachelorette Season 5, and hanging out with winner Ed Swiderski! Ed spills everything about his experience on the show, how things ended up with Bachelorette Jillian Harris, and why he may have done Bachelor Pad for the “wrong reasons”. Plus, find out WHY Ed disappeared from The Bachelorette while filming!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the Almost Famous OG podcast. This is Trista, and I am solo today, Bob Guinea, my co-host, who makes me laugh every week. or every other week or every other month or whatever schedule we're on. Bob is on a plane right now. I was just texting with him. He is going to Louisville for his annual visit to the Kentucky Derby. So wishing I was there with him, although no, not really, because I'm in Utah for a dance competition with Blake's Lee.

And it's like the thrill of my life. seeing my daughter dance is just one of my very happy places and uh the competition here is crazy town um i just posted a story on instagram and told people that it is it's like where everyone that you see the pros that are on dancing with the stars they are they come from here well most of them from a studio called center stage and so the competition here is really really incredible to watch. It's just like being at a show. So I'm excited to be in Utah. I wish that Bob was here with me, but that's okay. I've got this interview. I'm excited to talk to Ed Swaderski. I believe that's how you pronounce this last name. We've met before and haven't talked in a long

time, so I'm excited to catch up, but he was on Gillian Harris' season. So, Hannah, can you bring him in please and thank you hello ed hey how are things going it's been a while i know like a million years i haven't seen you in lifetimes ago i mean right i feel like it was uh like why did you no we didn't go to your wedding we were we were at jason mesnick's wedding right yes yes okay and then also did i come Pad, was I a judge that season? Oh, you know what? Did you? Okay, so...

I try to erase that from my mind. Right. I'm sure. So Bachelor Pad, I came and judged a Cirque de Soleil thing in Vegas where people were climbing walls or something. Yeah, that was the one, I think, before my season. Okay. And then I judged a dance competition at the end of one season.

I think it was dance. No, that wasn't you. It was at the Bachelor Mansion. Were you on Tenley's season? Yes. Okay, then that was the season I was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought so.

Right? Wasn't it like a like a dance? Didn't you have to do it? Pretty, pretty intoxicated the entire time. So like, you know, Elvis Presley could have been there and I wouldn't have remembered it. Oh my gosh. You were, okay. So is that like a thing?

Is this something that you've come to terms with? Are you, are you? I mean, look, it was, it is what it was, you know? It was vacation for me, you know? Okay. Yes. The producers didn't know it, but I was there. I was there for vacation.

And so you didn't talk about that. Like you, when you would go do interviews, and we're talking. I'm talking Bachelorette and Bachelorette. When you go do interviews, was your stick, was your line that you were there for love? But were you really just there for vacation? Is that what you're telling me? Well, no, I mean, Bachelorette, I mean, I was sort of there for fun, but like, how much fun can you have with a bunch of dudes, you know, in a barn, right? Like, it depends on who you are.

Yeah. It's true. It's true. nowadays. But I was there for kind of have fun. I didn't really know much about the show at the time. I mean, I knew I knew the concept. I just, I didn't, I wasn't like a regular watcher, so I didn't really know what I was in for. So why did you apply for the show? Like going back to

very beginning. You had never seen it before? And did you get nominated or something? You know what? I, believe it around, I was walking down the street in Chicago and you know they have these guys on the streets that do recruiting they've got their clipboards and I was outside for me I was at a meeting but I was outside on the phone on a call and this dude walks up to me with a clickboard you know and I had a suit on so I probably looked like I was legit you know and and you were legit yeah yeah yeah and I worked for big software company at the time so I kind of looked at I'm like what you know what do you want dude I'm on the phone and

He was like, I'm recruiting for a TV show on ABC. And I'm in mind, I'm like, I'm like, well, is it for the bold and the beautiful? Because I don't think I want any part of it, dude. Got it. And then he convinced you. Well, it was over the course of a few months. I wasn't, I wasn't really into it. And I didn't really know much about Jillian until, you know, I looked her up.

And the first thing that came up was, you know, a bunch of you. YouTube videos with her just melting down, you know, with Jason. And I'm like, oh, God, this chick looks like a nutcase, you know. Um, so I, that wasn't the reason why I was, I was hesitant, but I, I just, um, I think over the course of a couple months, you know, I had my job, right, and I knew that I really shouldn't be away for that long. Um, ultimately it had consensus with my boss that, you know, that I could do it and I pulled it off. I didn't make the decision until like the day before I left, actually. But, yeah, I don't know if they were just like light on guys in Chicago because they kept

bugging me, you know, and I'm like, there's a million people here. You could probably be chasing down for this. Well, they clearly saw something in you because so did Jillian. And she ended up, you know, you guys ended up getting engaged. But tell me, remind everyone about what happened like midseason with you. Oh, yeah, I left. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's the thing about it. I was just like a normal dude, you know? And I just, I was still working. You know, I was able to continue working and kind of dating while I was on a dating show. And so, you know, you were working while you were on the show, like when you were in L.A. Yeah. This was, you know, this was like one of the first seasons where I think they allowed people that, because that was one of the terms that I agreed on when I did the show.

I'm like, look, I can't be gone for like three months. You know, I got to have access to my laptop, my phone, you know, and in, but it was very scarce, you know, periodically I could check stuff. And when I did get on it, I was just so overwhelmed with junk, you know, I'm like, I can't keep doing this. But halfway through the season, you know, it was, I think it was a blend of just like me feeling, feeling like I was neglecting, obviously neglecting. some key stuff at work and not, I don't know, I just wasn't like feeling the environment with all these guys. And a lot of them, and I'm not going to disparage any of them, but they, they just, I couldn't, like, I couldn't see eye to eye with a lot of the guys. There were a few guys that were great, but I was just, I was just kind of a normal dude. I didn't really want to be

in an entertainment. Like, that was never my thing. I just thought it would be cool to experience it, you know and so um so i just said look like i i i can't be here and i i got to leave you know and i ended up going home um you know turns out that like work i probably could have been gone for two more months you know it was like an overreaction that you know you just get kind of anxiety right and yeah so um i was at home for a couple weeks producers were kept in touch with me and And they finally just said, look, like, do you have any, you know, any aspiration to come back and be on the show? Because we think that Gillian really likes you. And we absolutely, like, I felt like we had the best chemistry, you know?

Like, we were just kind of both grounded people, I guess. You know, we both, you know, just we had the best fit, I think. And I just said, look, yeah. And I did have ex-girlfriends that, you know, were reaching out to me because they knew that I was on the show. And, of course, like, I talked to them. But I didn't have anything at home that I was really missing. And so I decided to, to, you know, take a chance and go back. And everybody was cool with work and everything.

So, yeah. Went back. So it's funny because I am at, you know, as you know, obviously the one of the first, if not the first. You are the first, well, yeah, yes. But so, well, I wasn't the first bachelor. Oh, well, I was the first bachelor. but not the first show. Anyway, so when someone says like,

you know, well, I had girlfriends and I was talking to girlfriends, I'm like, but is that cool? Like to me, obviously, things have changed. You're in a very happy marriage and I wanna talk about that soon. At least I assume you're in happy marriage and your dad and you know, life has changed

and life has evolved and I truly believe that everything happens for a reason and you're meant to be where you are now. Completely agree. But like to me, I'm like, you know, the kind of, well, they call me the fairy godmother. So if someone is like, well, isn't there for the right reasons or wasn't there for the right reasons or, you know, had girlfriends on the side, I'm kind of like, naughty you. So did you, did you really, you had girlfriends and

when you went back to Chicago, were you talking to people or were you just there for work? In your mid-20s, like, how do you define a girlfriend living in downtown Chicago? I mean, we dated constantly, right? Nobody that I was talking to would I consider like an actual girlfriend. Like we weren't, you had people you were talking to. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and so I was certainly there.

I wouldn't have gone there if I knew that there wasn't really a chance, you know, with it with a real relationship. Yeah. When I got there, though, I realized that like the amount of time, it's nearly impossible to formally form a relationship. there in that window, right? Like, and we learned probably... Almost impossible, yes.

25% of each other while we're there afterward, you know, the next year or two years when we were together, that's when you learn about, you know, moving in and like, you know, life hits you and then you learn everything else, right? Yeah, of course. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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So how did that all happen? Obviously, you and Jillian did it work out. She's happily married, well, happily in a relationship. You're, I assume, happily married. When you guys were together, what all happened there? Have you talked to her? You know, I know that, how long did it, how long did it last? And what do you feel like happened at the end?

we were there let's see so we were together for for a good two years after the show that's significant in bachelor land yeah yeah i mean we had a lot of tabloid crap too that that sucked but we you know we got through it and she moved to chicago right away um you know and and we would go up to to vancouver and we went up and visit her family way up in northern um I think, uh, northern. Colonna. Yeah. Yeah, near Colonna.

And, um, even, even Peace River way up there. So it's like parallel to Alaska. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. So, I mean, we, we got through all the media stuff, you know, and, and, but it was just like, I think that the, the day to day life stuff that really like, like I said, getting to know the rest of the spectrum of that person.

And yeah. Julian's great is it was just a, you know, we just weren't. And I was kind of still in like a. not get serious mode too in my life and I still liked working a lot and so but she she moved here and like you know we we had a blast when she lived here like we we did all kinds of fun stuff we we um you know like I said traveled up to Canada a lot and went visited my family a lot we we had a real you know real relationship yeah and I think it just over time you just you know like any relationship you just figure out that probably not the best

I think the media sensationalized, like, our separation, but it wasn't really that, it wasn't that exciting. Like, it was, you know, it was like, you know, Ed's cheating or whatever, and, but that, that wasn't the case. I mean, there were many, many, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, you know this more than anybody, I'm sure that, like, you can't control a story once it's out of your hands. And if you try to defend something, it looks even,

You just look worse. Yeah. Yeah. So I got a really quick, you know, 101 on how to handle the media. And I just said, look, like, we're not going to play along with this. Like, we're breaking up. You know, I'm sorry. It's not more fun.

But, and then we still kept in touch for years, you know, after that. Did you? Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't until like when I really started dating my wife for real, you know. And I just, obviously, we, we, we didn't keep in touch more. And then she was in her relationship. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. So tell me about your, your wife, your daughter, how life is now. It's awesome. I am, I'm, I'm moved to the burbs, uh, doing a lot of home. In Chicago still, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. A lot of mulch lately. Um, that's super, super exciting. Um, so yeah, I mean, we're, uh, let's see, it's our eighth year anniversary coming up here and our daughter early yeah thanks it's going to be in July excited for that my daughter's going to be three in a couple weeks do you have a picture of her can you show me somewhere uh yeah I got one somewhere I want to see and her name is olive is it olive yes I think that is so cute she is Last, the other night, she's just doing some wild dancing here.

Oh my gosh, that brings me back. Like, I used to. So when I had, Max was probably that age. And Blake'sley, my daughter, would be like nursing. So I would lay in my bed, turn on the television to so you think you could dance or dancing with the stars and or maybe not. Yeah, dancing with the stars because I had been on it. First season, one before they were born.

So I would just, I would put. on the television, and he would just dance along to the TV. Oh, that brings back such happy memories. Yeah, your little, little buggers are, uh, they're getting up there now, right? They're not so little. Yeah. How old are they? Max is 510 and, um, he is, I know. Yeah, he's 6'2, but he's way taller than me now. Um, he's going to be a sophomore in high school next year and Blake'sley will be a freshman. Um, wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Are you guys still in Colorado? Is that right? Yeah, we We are. We are. We're actually moving, though. I just told everyone last week, the last, or the last podcast, we are moving to Denver. Ryan is a Denver firefighter now. He worked for Vail for 17 years,

and he's been working for Denver for like three, and he's been commuting two hours back and forth whenever he worked. So we thought it was time to make the change. We're going to be closer to family. We're excited for their new school and the opportunities for everybody. So Anyway, that's where we are. But yeah, I love hearing. Anna, I hear your wife is, is she a co-host or an anchor or whatever for Good Day, Chicago? She was for four or five years. Now she does the evening.

She's the evening anchor for the local news station. Amazing. For ABC? Is it in the family? It's actually the local parks. Okay, got it. Yeah. She's been with them for.

12 years or something like that that is awesome I love it I did I co-hosted good day live and good day LA a bunch and I just always loved the vibe there yeah I assume good day Chicago is kind of similar very similar yeah yeah she liked it too and but you know the the evening spots are a little more sought after and like if you're if you're really into the industry you know like that these are it's a it's a great stepping Stone, but she's really into, like, she wants to be, you know, an evening acre, possibly even at a network. Oh, amazing. Would you stay in Chicago or would you guys consider leaving? I don't know. I don't know. You know, I mean. Is your family there?

They're in Michigan. Okay. Got it. And her family's in Illinois. So we want to stay in the area for sure. But for now, we're pretty happy with everything. That is awesome. And how did you guys meet? because obviously you both have a little public eye, you know, pieces there. Did you guys meet through like an event or blind date or how'd you meet? It's even cornyer than that, Trista. I was like at home on the couch one day. It was like a holiday or something and I put on the local news and I saw this girl doing the news and I'm like, you know, you get to know a lot of the local media people and like, you do events, charity stuff.

And I didn't recognize her. I'm like, oh, who's this? You know? So I reached out to her. I actually tweeted her. You did? Yes. Yes.

That is bold. That's amazing. Well, I figured like, why not? You know, I mean, I didn't think she'd respond to me. Well, you did go on a reality show on national television. So it kind of is in the category. Same ballpark is. Yeah.

And so, yeah. And I didn't think she was going to respond to me. And I think I started stalking her. Like on Instagram, I was like, hey, it's Ed. I'm over here. Over here. And I don't know why she agreed to go to it. So she did the morning news.

And so like her happy hour is like lunchtime. Right. She's done. Right. Yes. And so she's like, let's go to lunch. I'm like, lunch. Like what is this?

A business meeting or something? But then, you know, I realize you like, okay. So she's like pounding wine at our lunch. lunch. And I'm like, wow, this chick is, she's getting after it. But it was, it was actually like okay for a first date. But, you know, we decided to go on another day. We did an actual evening dinner. Okay, got it. She could stay up. Yeah, she could stay up and we had a lot more fun. But, you know, it was pretty typical. I mean, other than like the tweeting thing, our relationship was pretty standard, you know. Yeah, got it. No, that's so cute. That wasn't like doing it. I love it.

or anything. No. So, so you guys met through that and you actually, are you in marketing now? I do enterprise sales for a big, big software company. Oh, you're still in software sales. Okay, got it. Yeah. Because I was going to say, I thought you were in marketing and I was going to say you moved from software sales, went through the show. I didn't know if like the show had any, any impact on, on the change of career. But if you're still in the same career, really. You're right, actually. So I mean, I've kind of, yeah, I've kind of gone back and forth. I mean, I put it in the same category of sales and marketing. Like, I don't do marketing. I sold marketing tools. So, yeah, so similar. But, but I did, like, we wrote this book about Pinterest a while back. And I think

I think like we did, didn't we do an event in Chicago at Rocket or something? Oh my gosh. Yes. That is the last time I saw. you. Yeah. It was, um, it was a fundraiser. It was for shop, e-drop-off. E-drop-off. Yes.

Was that what it called? One of those, like, recycled clothing. You're right. It was me and Molly Meznik. Yes. Which is so crazy because Jillian was on Jason's season with Molly. And Molly and I were hanging out with you in Chicago years later. It was so weird.

That is so crazy. But yes, you're right. Oh my God. Gosh. Okay. And so you were working with Rocket, like you helped them with marketing or something? I launched my book and we hosted a party at Rocket. And so I, you know, Billy just reached out for a couple of other events. And that's where we intersected. But yeah, I mean, I've always kind of been in technology sales. So even, you know, for my entire career, really. I never got into like any. like regular media stuff where i was like paid you know just uh-huh well i don't think it was it wasn't really a thing back then yeah you know i mean it i know i did a lot of like spokesperson yeah things you know i was a spokesperson they call it actually a spokesperson and now

i feel like the term has changed to influencer even if you're doing a satellite media tour or you're just posting stuff on social i feel like it has definitely evolved but um but i don't wasn't as big of a thing back then. No. It wasn't. I mean, because social media wasn't as relevant or pertinent or, you know, popular. Yeah. And I wanted to see if you, you know, at that event, obviously, we were getting recognized, but do you get recognized still? And I know that was a long time ago. I mean, that had to be 10 years ago that we saw it was like 12, I think, or yeah, when we saw each other was like 10 years ago um no no nowhere near you don't and like i i don't try to be right either like i think a lot i just i don't i don't want it you know yeah um

i mean it's fun every once in all but like my my wife gets way more you know way more uh notoriety than you know for years like she's she's she's more recognizable than i am i think if someone's like a hardcore fan they might you know or like if we're out and it's all you'd probably know this but Anywhere there's alcohol involved, people get a little braver with, you know, approaching you. And so. Or travel. Yes. Yes.

Right? If you're ever in an airport. Oh, airports. I feel like just being in an airport. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or being in Texas.

Or Texas. The epicenter of The Bachelor. I swear. If I'm in Texas, I'm like, I will get recognized. It's so true. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him

because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford. And in session 421 of therapy for black girls, I sit down with Dr. Othia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair could next to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal.

Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyperfixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel. It's how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstylists play in our community.

the pressure to always look put together and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss session 418 with Dr. Angela Neal-Barnett where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to therapy for black girls on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweetie. Monica Patton.

Elaine Welter-A. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push. to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots,

now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And you don't miss the show at all. Like, you don't miss being on television. You'd rather your wife do it. Yeah, because I feel like I'm getting old. And, like, I just, I like being a dad. Like, I like.

I love that. I just like, I just like being a normal dude. you know and like it was definitely fun and i wish everyone could experience it because it's such a cool thing to see right how tv works kind of see all the the BS behind the behind the scenes and how everything happens in reality TV is different from like real TV but like a real production but like real TV like you know like like real produced um I totally yeah I hear you but it's just uh it's cool to kind of see all all the inner workings right of how it comes together and I agree I didn't have to travel the world.

And even in your season, like you guys... I went to Seattle. That was it. You guys didn't go anywhere? No, I went to Seattle. What in the world? Why would you do that? Seriously, they owe me some trips.

Seattle and Cabo and New York and Vail, you know, for my hometown. Seattle, I love it. Yeah, I always joke. My fantasy suites were in Seattle. Seattle and Cabo. Cabo was good for all those in Seattle. I love Seattle. For all those in Seattle, I love Seattle. It was great. It was a wonderful place. But, you know, would I have treated the Maldives for Seattle? Yes. Yes, I would. Could have taken that one, huh? Yeah, definitely. I agree. Yeah, no, I'm not bitter. I'm not bitter. You can't tell them bitter, can you? You've traveled. Where did you guys go on your season? We went to, we went all over. We were, we were, We started out in Vancouver, which Whistler, I think we went up to also.

Right. Which was cool. I'd never been there before. I would consider that definitely international. And then we went to Spain. We went to Hawaii. You know, never been to Spain. Hawaii is my favorite place on Earth.

So I was like, this is awesome. Was it your favorite place on Earth? because you went there or it was your favorite place on earth before that it was my favorite place on earth after i went there oh okay okay i just didn't has you have you been with your wife like does she does she know this is your favorite place on earth because of the bachelorette until she is she like haven't well okay but here's the thing like we've discovered so many other places international places to you that i would say that are very close but when it really comes down to it like kawai is just amazing like it's you know it's it is beautiful yeah but I feel like my husband would be like

because I did go to Hawaii for the bachelor and I feel like he would be like well this is where you were with Alex so I don't want to go you know what I mean that's right I didn't realize they did that with you that I didn't know that you were pulled from I was from the first season so you try okay so you traveled on a bachelor then well just Hawaii that well I would definitely be pissed that if I How are you? Like, what, what happened to the budget here? There was not one. Listen, Trista, we don't know if this is going to work, so we're going to Cleveland, Ohio.

Woohoo! Get excited! Yeah, I mean, any place, honestly, I feel like I'd love traveling, even if it's all over the United States. I don't care. Like, wherever it is, I love to travel. But, you know, it would have been nice to go to Spain so it's all good it's all good it's all good I I would take my relationship with my husband for almost 20 years in December over a trip to the Maldives it's fine I that is so cool my life so it's all good yeah you guys are you guys are like the best family oh we had fun at at mezzik's wedding we were out at the pool with your kids yeah oh my gosh yes remember yeah was that Were Sarah Bryce and Charlie O'Connell there?

Was that the wedding? Or I think so. Yeah. O'Connell is the actor guy, right? Yes, Jerry. He's Jerry's brother. Brother. Yes, yes, he was there.

And I don't know why. Why was he? Yes. Oh, why was Jerry? No, Charlie was there because he was a bachelor. Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah.

I didn't follow the show then. No, oh, sorry, yes. But prior to it, right, I didn't follow it. So I didn't really know other than you. Have you watched since? No. I'm like terrible. Does your wife watch?

A wife watch is occasional. I think she's a couple of seasons behind. Did she watch it when you were on? She didn't. And she hasn't. And she hasn't and she won't? I don't think she doesn't want to. It's just that we're just busy and like,

yeah. So I just go back through like archives of old. I mean, yes, like she's married to me, but there's nothing there that she, is probably, probably get excited over, you know. Yeah, no, I get that. I just didn't know if there was any curiosity. I feel like that is a, that is probably a majority of how people feel if they met their significant other after the show, obviously after the show, if they met their significant other

and their significant other did not watch before, then they probably will never. They won't watch it. I just feel like that's like, that's normal. Yeah. But I wonder how much curiosity is there, you know, if you, want to pull it up if you can even I don't even know if you can access it I think they may have sent us like DVDs like I have some archive of it oh you have DVDs because I have VHS tapes oh do you really yeah well well I was in low deaf too so oh way low death was me yeah I'm

kind of like glad for that because high definition scares me now yes you can see everything all my wrinkles yes yeah all my pores I mean you're seeing and everything. Thank goodness for low definition. Seriously. I love it. Okay, so future plans. Are you guys planning on expanding your family? We'd like to. I mean, my wife is, she's turned 40, not 41, actually, now this year. Oh, she's a spring chicken. Yeah, yeah, but like we had a hard time with our first pregnancy, just, you know, all kinds of IUI, IVF up the why she would literally yeah literally but um bump and like giving giving her shots you know every day and it's just like takes a toll on her yeah and so we we would love to it's just like do we really want to go through that part of it i would love to have like you know two more kids probably but

would you would we have you just don't know i would like to have one more just so she has sibling you know because yes that's how I felt so important I actually had a really hard pregnancy as or a difficult time getting pregnant as well and we did iUIs but not um we started the IVF process um and never had to go through it because I ended up getting pregnant but what I will say is for the second um and you're you know your daughter's three so maybe this can still happen but we had a really hard time with Max, and then after I stopped nursing, I got pregnant with Blakesley like that. Like, it was pretty easy. Yeah. So you just never know. And you know, you hear all these stories about how people really want a child, like, are actively trying, going to doctors, whatever.

And the stress and the anxiety around it not happening can take over for the natural ability of your body to create, you know. Totally. And so I feel like so many, you hear these stories of people who go on to like adopt and then they get pregnant or, you know. And they get pregnant afterward. Yeah. Right. Exactly.

So, you know, I feel like probably a lot of it has to, not in your case specifically, necessarily. But yeah, you just never know. So who knows? Yeah. I would love that for you. I just, I love that. My kids were close when they were younger, not so much right now. just because they have totally different things.

So they're three years apart, though? They're 20 months apart. Okay. But three years is, I mean, I know people who have like big chunks of time in between their kids. And it's a great thing, you know. I think there's pros and cons for everything, you know. So you just never know. You just got to keep trying if that's what you want.

And I'm sure Olive would love a sibling. She would. She loves being around kids. I mean, it's weird because like, we'll go to the play. playground and I feel bad because I think these kids, you know, that have gone through the pandemic, like they're just not conditioned for like hanging out with other kids. And somehow she she's very extroverted though. So she'll like walk up the kids and they look at her like she has three heads, you know. I know I feel bad. I'm like, oh, you know, you can, you can tell

it she's kind of sad because she's like, why don't they want to play with me? And I'm like, I don't know. It's nothing that you're doing. That's no. I love. I love. I love. I love. I love. I love that she's extroverted and can do that because my kids were not that way and I always wished for that. That's great. Encourage that for sure. Okay, I have to tell you, I was texting Bob. You know Bob is my we co-host this together. Yeah. Yeah. Bob Ginnon. So I was texting him to see if he was going to be here and he said that you guys maybe share a birthday, May May 8th? When's your birthday?

July 20th is my birthday. So he is wrong. Not that birthday. I might have multiple. Some other Seabag for the bachelor. I don't know. Anyway, he was like,

yay, I believe he and I share a birthday. And he put, although he's much younger. And I said, isn't everyone? Oh. I love, like, you two are my hands down, like, favorite. I mean, you're the most notable, but I ran into him at the Kentucky Derby. I know. I'm very jealous. I love the Derby. And he goes every year, like, this is his thing. So he shouldn't be here. But I was like, yay, I got a laugh at Bob Guinea, even if it was on a text. So is he's down there now? He is. He was on a plane to Louisville when I texted him like an hour ago. That's where I ran into him last.

like three or four years ago. Oh, okay. Did you always used to go to Derby? No, first time going. And in fact, he was like on the red carpet for some event. And I was like getting chased down by the security trying to get into like a red carpet party. And I'm like, Bob, get me in. Let me in.

Please. He's like, look at me. Who are you? I don't know you. I mean, he's, we've never met in person before that. But we knew. Got it. We communicated.

You know. And he tried. but he's like, you can't do it, dude. You're not cool enough. You're not cool enough. Oh, I'm totally going to tell him. You totally let Ed down. He didn't even want to talk to you.

So I'm glad you weren't on today. Well, I thank you so much for the chat. And I'm so happy for your happiness and your relationship and your fatherhood. I love girl dads. So fun. Yeah, she's the love of my life. Aw, that's the sweetest. Tell Ryan and the kids that I wish him well too.

I haven't seen him in a long time. I said hi. Thank you. Actually, Ryan wasn't with me in Chicago. Have you ever met Ryan? Because he wasn't on Bachelor Pad. Maybe not. Didn't he go to the wedding?

Yes. The wedding? Yes. Yes, you are right. He was. That's how I know he was tall. You're right. Got it.

Yes, that was such a fun wedding. Yep. Yes, well, anyway, I thank you so much. I enjoyed our chat. And I'm so happy for your happiness. Thanks for coming on and allowing us to, you know, reflect back to the days of old. Good times. All right.

Well, take care. I'm good to see you too. Okay. Thanks. Bye, Ed. Bye. Thanks for listening, everybody. This is Trista, and I just love this opportunity to be able to talk to people who were part of my past, part of my Bachelor Nation family.

I love all y'all. And if you guys would like for me to me and Bob, sorry, he's not here today, if you would like for us to bring anybody onto the show, if you're missing someone, if you'd love to hear what's going on, in the life of someone who was on the show, a favorite of yours from back in the OG days. We would love to hear from you. You can go to the Almost Famous Instagram account and send them a message, or you can DM me as well or Bob.

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