The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - April Showers with April Kirkwood Part 2

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Now it's Ashley's turn to talk to April from The Golden Bachelor! She opens up about her connection to a music superstar, and she shares some expert therapist analysis of what happened between Gerry and Theresa!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, everyone. Welcome to another episode of the Almost Famous Podcast. Today I am joined by April from The Golden Bachelor. She's wearing some pretty Cinderella heels and like so much bling. You are sparkling head to toe. You are our glam girl. Yes, I am. I originally am part fairy and part nymph. And I have the same first house in my astrology as Marilyn Monroe. So that explains a bunch. Oh, wait. What does fairy and nymph mean? Well, a fairy is magical, but she is kind of, oh, well, should I say, she can be controversial and she can kind of be spunky. My nickname is Spitfire. And then a nymph, of course, is a seductress. So you have the fairy essence, which is magical and elusive and sometimes contrary. She has a bad temper. And then

the nymph energy, which every man loves. You would know me if you saw me. And we have lots of confidence, too. Exactly. I mean, is there any other kind? April, let's be honest, is Gary your type? let's be honest hell no what is your type my type right now is I am looking for a retired player

another words he was a player such a player he wrote the book but he's not playing anymore except with me I want someone who's going to play play hard but only with me because a normal player will play with everybody.

And as a fairy, I cannot handle that, okay? And I will tell any man I'm in love with, honey, I will never, ever hurt you unless I have to. All right. This man sounds really hard to find. Well, yeah, because then it comes with, you know, being enterprising, which is a polite PC word for having money. Wait, so he has to have money and also have this.

lure of being a total player, but a settled down one. I don't know good players that don't have money. Do you? Honestly, no, you're right. Those players have money. You can't play. Not in my field. Do we need a retired athlete?

Oh, yeah, that would be good. Yeah. I mean, as long, actually, it is an aura. I'm going to get serious. I have a lot of energy. I'm very powerful. So I like a powerful man that can control me. And, you know, like when I walk into the.

room and he looks at me. I just, you know, it sounds like 50 shades stuff. Well, how many shades have I gotten through? I don't know yet. But you know, that's another conversation. I think that's an after midnight show. Okay, we'll finish your thought there. So no, actually, I do believe I have fallen in love with people who have the same kind of frequency, the same energy level. Someone who likes to play, I call it zinging and zanging, someone who is carefree, someone also who has a good heart, and someone who can see through my bullshit and still love me and know how to control me like, pipe down, princess, or, you know, or I'm watching you. You know, and I like to behave, you know, but I need someone strong so that I want to behave. So why did you stick around? Well, I had really not dated since my significant other passed away, a player.

And I really wanted the experience of dating. And I thought, I'm going to really go out on the edge here and give this a try. So actually, you know, my family was happy I didn't like Gary. Because had I liked this guy, this show would have been way. different. I mean... The producers are probably hoping you would really like him. Yeah, they probably were because I would go crazy. I mean, if I will, if I'm in love, I lose my mind. Everything that I, but that's the true case. When you fall in love, the frontal area of your brain no longer works for like, I don't know, 12. Yeah, two years. Yeah, two years, 24 to 32 months. And so that that happens to me

well. So I would have been like jumping over those girls. It would have got ugly. If the Golden Bachelor in Paradise happens, what celebrity man would be your player, the player of your dreams down that beach? Okay. Michael Keaton. He is hot. He's older. He doesn't, and he could control me. And he's funny as shit. And I'm funny as shit. So we could out funny each other. out other things each other. I was like thinking of other F things, funny. He could control me. I could have fun with him.

I could tease him. Is he married? I'm not sure. Google, Google Alert, Houston. He probably is. I think he is. But somebody like that. Oh, no.

He's single. Holy Jammolies. Oh, Michael. This is her call out to Michael King. Yeah. Oh my God. Batman. Yeah.

My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer. And my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a... a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man

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Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right. Well, April, you have got to fill us in on the Frankie Valley drama. Oh, okay. Yeah, I do love him. The lead singer of the Four Seasons, you apparently had quite a love of fire with. Sherry, Cher. You know what?

Two years ago, he released, because it's not just me. Everyone thinks I'm crazy. I'm just two years ago he released a jazz song it was a song because he's not a writer he created a jazz album

and one of the songs he could have picked anyone it was I'll remember April now I wrote a book about him a few years before so I wrote he sang and I think that kind of about him

all about him yes all about well Well, it was about my experience with him. I was from a traumatic childhood like most of the people in the world. And when you are from trauma, you find something to make your life feel safe. Some people, they also have different viewpoints on life, but they will find something that will make them feel secure. So when my mom and stepfather are beating the crap out of each other, I would run to

my little canopy bedroom and I would put on on my little record player, big girls don't cry. And anyhow, we'll make a long story short, my aunt won tickets to a concert of his. I got to see him. And after that, him and I just had a connection and I would go to see him. He would pick me up off the stage. I would get a little velvet suit like him, a banner that said Frankie, a little hat. And I also believe in reincarnation. I also believe that we plan our lives.

I also believe that there's no mistakes. There's a synchronicity. I think there was something between Frankie and I from past lives. I don't believe we were ever to be together in this life. But we had a relationship on and off for years and years and years and years and years. After this concert? After his concert. But how old were you then?

I probably, well, I mean, I fell in love. with them as six because I I painted Ken's head black. He had black hair because he was Frankie. No, but I, you know, I started to sleep with them when I was 16. So, and he was, he was the same age as my mother. But when somebody, when you're in trauma and somebody becomes your safe place, even still now, if you are abused by somebody and I'm a therapist, the child will, will still want to be with who they were abused by because that's their parent. Also, there's two rules of thumb when you're abused. You either have the idea that the world is an unsafe place or that you are not good enough. So between all of that, it's a mess. It's a mess. But that being

said, there was something between him and I that was very odd. I don't, I'm not from New York. I'm not from New Jersey. I'm not a Jersey girl. I'm not an L.A. girl. My family's in the music business. And from Ohio on a farm. And we met. And it just happened. So it wasn't on and off again. Now, this was before there were computers and there was no Google. You couldn't find out who was married or where they were or anything. So it just naturally, organically evolved and I you know he's the the my first love and also a lot of the things that I am today I owe to him because he was like a father image to me always go to college don't sleep around stand tall be beautiful keep yourself up be a lady and no matter what he did with me

when he was around me and maybe he did other things like drugs sex rock and roll never around me. So it is a very, very interesting relationship. And I have no regrets. He's part of my story. How did he feel about the book coming out? He was furious. He still hates me for that. And I will apologize. I would really like to speak with him. And I will say it right here. I, April, your little April, I am very, very sorry. that I ever published our private life. I did it at a time when I was young and immature and I wanted his attention.

And I did it the wrong way. And I should have never put that out. And that really ruined our relationship. I don't think he ever spoke to me after that. And when was that? Years and years ago on other clouds with other fairies when I was young and flew. Litting around.

April, we just have to go get you your Michael Keaton now. Oh, I love Michael Keating. Yeah, now he would make me forget Frankie Valley's name. Okay. Or someone similar. I would like to move out to L.A. too. I would move for someone I fell in love with because love is so hard to find. I think it does too.

Yeah. I really like it. I love the people here. I love it. all of you. When I land here, I feel at home. Yeah, I feel that. I get that. I just feel like I'm in my groove and I love all of you. I mean, I get sad when I leave. I really do. I understand this. You really found like a place of belonging in the Bachelor world. Yeah. I mean, I never even watched The Bachelor. I didn't even know what Bachelor Nation was. When they kept saying, say Bachelor

nation. I'm like, what the hell am I saying? What is this bachelor nation? I'm like, is it a nation? You know, like sometimes I'm really smart, but sometimes I have no common sense. You're a therapist. But that's endearing about me because then men know I actually need them to survive. Okay, wait. So you're a therapist. So I want you to do something for fun. Okay. Can you Therapies for us. Therapies. Yeah. I just made that up sort of.

Teresa and Gary's relationship and why they're together. I think that everybody has a type. I think that in our mind, it's like a little basket of what, like I do, I have a little check off. I think Gary had a checkoff. And I think Teresa hit most of those buttons. I also think Gary at his age wants an easier life, wants someone who is going to be maybe quiet,

maybe a subservient, maybe a... Now, I think there are women that would have done that for him had he put himself out more, but he found someone who did that for him right away. Remember, this whole bachelor thing is not an organic situation. Everybody is coming nervous. They're playing a game. It's very awkward. But I think there probably are women out there that don't, aren't like Teresa. But I think Teresa hit every button. And I think it works for them. She's a little passive. And you could tell she adores him like, you know, she looks in his eyes like, oh, Gary, I'll make dinner for you every night. Oh, I can't buy that. That's okay. I don't need anything. I have you, you know, you want to play pickleball the rest of your life? Okay. You know, and, and that's great. And also I think he's a different generation. I, on the other hand, I'm not from that generation, mentally. Are you not? I was like, is the age difference that much? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Varies are ageless, actually. We live much longer. Don't kid yourself, okay? You will know us when you see us.

You are quite the character. We're so appreciative of being here. This is why I had a radio show that was very successful. I'm not surprised. Until next time, guys, I've been Ashley. Bye. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

Hi, my name is Enya Jumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called. emergency intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.

Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is, Ken Jennings' appearance. on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land?

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Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every case that is a cold case that has done. DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. On the new podcast, America's

Crime Lab, every case has a story to tell, and the DNA holds the truth. He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology's already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Thank you.