The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Ashley’s Mother’s Day Party!

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

Ashley I is having the ultimate Mother’s Day party with our favorite moms (and dog moms) from Bachelor Nation! We’re hanging out with Amanda Stanton, Annaliese Puccini, Trista Sutter, Ashl...ee Frazier and Caelynn Miller-Keyes to share their motherly wisdom! Find out who might be expecting MORE kids in the future, and hear what happened when OG Bachelorette Trista had “the sex talk” with her kids! Thank you Macy’s!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy chisement.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special Bestie and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And I'm Maya. Get in here. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez, and in the new season of the Over Comfort Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. this is wisecrack available now listen to wisecrack on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts this is the ben and ashley i almost famous podcast with iheart radio hey guys welcome to a girls only almost famous podcast in celebration of mother's day we've got a whole bunch of bachelor moms and well bachelor non moms too hanging out together in l a la they're going to get their
Starting point is 00:02:58 nails done, their makeup done. They're going to go for a shopping spree at Macy's. This podcast is brought to you because of Macy's, which is a great place to get your Mother's Day gift. I mean, they have everything, as you know, clothes, makeup, jewelry, perfume. I can't think of anything that a mom would want that you really couldn't find at Macy's. So I'm unfortunately not able to join them because Jared had COVID this week and I was exposed and oh all right I'm so I'm having FOMO over here but a lot of my fellow bachelor moms are having a day of pampering and just girl time over there and I'm excited to catch up with them via Zoom so our first guess is going to be one of the most notorious bachelor moms I guess notorious may not be maybe it's not the most appropriate
Starting point is 00:03:51 word. But she's, when you think of Bachelor moms, you definitely think of Amanda Stanton because she so publicly dated Ben Higgins and others on Paradise with having two girls. And she introduced the girls to Ben on the show. So let's get Amanda on to talk about motherhood. All right, guys, Amanda Stannan sitting here looking cute as ever with your brunette hair. How do you feel being a brunette now. I feel good. I love it, actually. Are you ever going to go back to blonde for the wedding? I think just for the wedding. If it weren't for the wedding, I think I would keep it for a long time. But I feel like I need to look like myself at the wedding and I just feel like I'm a blonde. I feel like you're a blonde too. You look beautiful both ways, but I think it would be crazy if for your
Starting point is 00:04:43 wedding day you were, your classic, your signature blonde. Yes. I've been blonde for 30. I've been blonde for 32 years. So I got to do it for the wedding. 32 years. You've been blonde since birth? You're a natural blonde? Okay. So I am. I was born blonde. I had blonde hair my whole life. So I mean, I think now if my roots grow and brown, but I started dyeing my hair before that happened. So I've always been. Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. So what role are your girls going to play in the wedding? And how active are they in wedding planning? feel like both of them are probably super into dress shopping and decor with you. It's so funny because Kins is so excited.
Starting point is 00:05:29 She's so into it. So I decided to make her like my maid of honor because we're not having bridal parties. And then Charlie's going to be a flower girl. I feel like Charlie, she's very like distracted. She's not as into it. I feel like she doesn't really know like what's going on. So, um, Kins, Kins will be the maid of honor. oh my god that is so adorable so cute how is the wedding dress shopping going and are they going to be
Starting point is 00:05:55 part of that yeah so we've went we've went to a couple places actually it's so funny because i was more into them trying on dresses than i was like i care more about their looks than i do for mine it's actually scaring me how much i am relaxed about the wedding planning i feel like at the last minute i'm going to be a bright zilla because i've been very relaxed about it all Since Amanda's been on the show, she got engaged to her fiancé, Michael. He has a great presence on her social media. So if you don't know Michael now, go follow her and get to know Michael. Do you think that you're chiller about this wedding planning because you've already been married before?
Starting point is 00:06:40 I don't think so because in my mind, I haven't been if that makes sense. Like I don't count my first wedding. Like, it's weird for me to even talk about. Wait, do you not count your first wedding or your first marriage? The whole thing. It just doesn't count. But your girls came from it. Yeah, well, I had kids first.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So I was so young and I just feel like everyone, everyone gets like one, one practice round that doesn't count. So I don't think that's why. I think it's just hard when you have kids and we're both so busy and then adding wedding planning on top of it. I feel like we're both so excited to get married, but we're both like super chill about the actual wedding. Amanda, how in the world, like, do you parent two kids have a job, even though, you know, your job is like, you know, you do it at home? It still doesn't take away from any of the difficulty because what I found is like staying home, like being a stay at home mom who also does her work from home is really challenging.
Starting point is 00:07:47 because you have to, like, parent and work at the same time. And I know people will be little influencer working, but it's a real job. Yeah. So please give me pointers on how you do this, especially a couple years ago when the kids were younger, because now I feel like your girls are pretty self-sufficient. They are pretty self-sufficient now. But it's crazy because even still, like, during COVID, they were home and they were doing online school.
Starting point is 00:08:17 and I couldn't get anything done. Like, it is impossible for me to get stuff done when the kids are home even now. They're in school. They're back in school now, so it's so much easier. I feel like I get everything done while they're at school. But once they get home, it's just, it's really hard. Everything slows down. Everything.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah, I'm able to do everything technically still, but it'll take me three to four times longer. Yeah. You can get like, if you have a list of like 10 things, you can maybe get two of them done. Yes. I'm like, okay, it's like, Jared will be like, so what'd you do today? And I'm like, well, I swear to you, I didn't sit on the couch or more than like an hour. And that was just when I was feeding him.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But when I think about the things that I accomplished, all I can think about is that and that. Yeah. Both of them pre-baby would have probably taken me a total of like an hour and a half. A hundred percent. I mean, it definitely gets easy. but it is still impossible for me to like work from home when the kids are home it's it's hard okay well i'm glad to know that i'm not alone you know you're not gets easier once they start school oh thank you and probably when they start talking maybe no yes yes and no then they're just
Starting point is 00:09:40 probably demanding yeah uh let's talk about you having kids in the future with Michael, I feel like I know that you want more kids and I know that you want a boy. So what's the timeline on this? And I know that you can't like promise yourself you're going to get a boy. But why do you want a boy and what's the timeline? Okay. So I, I want a boy just because I already have two girls and I think it'd be fun to have one of each. But Michael and I swear we're going to just have another girl. Like we think that we're just going to have all girls. So we want to be married for a year and just kind of enjoy married life before we start trying. So I'd say like in the next two years, I hope.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. Oh, he will be adorable. And then he'll have snuggle time with George, the most amazing golden retriever ever. Yes, he's so cute. He's so cute. Let's talk about sleepovers because you have talked about sleepovers on your Insta story so many
Starting point is 00:10:43 times. And I'm sure you're probably annoyed. that I'm even bringing this up. But people seem so curious about it that I just want to talk about it, especially since I feel very similar to you. You don't let your girls have sleepovers. And they're still young.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Okay, so what? Kin's like nine? Ken's actually turning 10 this weekend. Okay, so she's turning 10 this weekend. But they're 8 and 9 at the moment. Okay, 8 and 9. I mean, so yeah, I think that's totally legit that you don't want them having sleepovers right now.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Do you think that's going to change? And what's your reasoning? behind it. To be honest, I was shocked by how many people were questioning it because I feel like it's kind of a no-brainer. Not that I'm judging anyone who does let their kids have sleepovers, but I think it's pretty obvious why some people wouldn't. I definitely don't see myself allowing them to have sleepovers anytime soon. Kins, I fully trust. Kins is more responsible than I am. Charlie, she's never having a sleepover ever, I don't think. What do you think they're going to get into at this age?
Starting point is 00:11:48 I'm not so worried. I mean, I just, I worry about everything. It's actually something I'm working on because even the thought of my kids, like, becoming teenagers and just walking to the park with their friends without me watching completely terrifies me. Yeah, can no, no. I think that we should put chips in our kids. I'm not even kidding you. I know that sounds insane.
Starting point is 00:12:09 No. And like we have trackers on the phones and all that, but like they can easily drop their phone or whoever's kidnapping them can also. take their phone and turn it off. So my thought is that I would love to put a chip in Dawson until he is 18 and then he could take it out. It would be like just like a dog chip, you know? Because if we could track where our dogs are if they run away.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Come on now. Oh, I don't even think I'll stop when they're 18. Oh, no. My parents haven't. No. Like when I go to a concert late at night and I'm, whether I'm here in Rhode Island or at home, they always want me to text them when I get home
Starting point is 00:12:44 or they track me they're they're always tracking me well that's how kins is with me so i was at coachella this weekend and she calls me a lot and i didn't answer her calls like for maybe 20 minutes and i looked at my text and she was like mom you need to text me back you're giving me anxiety oh my god but that's how i was at her age too she's so protective of me she's so responsible it it's crazy i was actually just telling emma who was doing my makeup that i'm like sometimes i'm like who's the parent here but i still still won't let her do anything without me. Okay. All right. Well, I mean, it all makes sense. I could really talk about this and being overprotective for a while. I know it's going to sound like we're like helicopter parents,
Starting point is 00:13:22 but there's lots of scary things in this world today. I think it's warranted. And I just to finish my thought, like, Dawson, if there was such a chip, he could take it out. And I would never be like, you can't do this, you can't do that. I just want to know where you are and that you're safe. Like, I don't like even so much, well, I mean, that's, that's too vague. There's lots of bad things. they can be doing. The bottom line is I just want to know that you're safe. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, okay. But sleepovers at that age, I feel like have them sleep over. I have them stay over at their friend's house late and then they can come home. That's what I used to do. I used to not even want to go to sleepovers. I just want to like hang out with my friends late
Starting point is 00:14:03 and then my mom could like pay me up at 11. Yeah, that's what we do. We call it a laid over. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. So they can come over till it's bedtime. Yeah. That's perfect. It makes them feel adult enough. Exactly. Yeah. I love that kids tracks you because when I was in third grade, I had mad separation anxiety for my parents. So whenever we had a babysitter, I would be so worried that something was going to happen to them.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And I would like, I would just have to know where they were at all times. Yeah. But we didn't have such technology. And it made me so nervous. And I would love to be a kid now and track my parents. I'm so crazy. What kind of kid wants to track their parents? Kensley.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Okay. I love the reverse situation. You're partying and having fun like a kid at Coachella and she's like, mom, answer your phone. Yeah. So cute, though. All right. Well, Amanda, I could talk to you about motherhood a lot longer, but we have so many guests to get to today. So go have fun. Enjoy your shopping spree at Macy's. I'm so jealous. What are you going to get? I don't know. I just got here and I was getting my makeup done, but I'm going to go take a look. Okay, fun. So jealous. Well, we miss you. Miss you. Bye. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I, I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:16:06 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect.
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Starting point is 00:19:47 Now we are joined by not just a mother, but the mother of the Bachelor franchise, Trista. Hi. Trista Ren. Trista Rutter. Whatever you want to call me. Trista Renn. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Sutter. Trista Renn. She's also the host of our, um, spin-off show, formerly famous, where she and Bob Guinea go back and talk about the old days of Bachelor Nation after re-watching old episodes. It's really fun. So if you guys have or have not watched old episodes, you can go and catch up with them, you know, go live in the like to the aught. That'll be fun. Or you can relive old memories. That's also fun. That's right. Yeah. We have a lot fun okay trissa we've talked about motherhood a bit now you're on my baby shower podcast so i'm gonna ask you
Starting point is 00:20:39 like some fun random not so like spiritual questions got it okay good let's do the dirty deeps okay have you given your kids the sex talk yes oh my god how does that go mine are 13 and 14 so you know compared to other moms here today definitely had to be done So we did it Oh gosh I want to say Did Ryan do your son And then did you do no
Starting point is 00:21:10 Okay so tell me everything Start it like how awkward was it How nervous were you? Where did you do it? Did you like lock them in the car And you're like oh They can't escape me here No okay so
Starting point is 00:21:20 About three years ago I was with a friend Who had older kids And I was just asking her How do I do the talk How do I what do I say And she was like I have a perfect book
Starting point is 00:21:32 for you. So she gave me actually three books. I can't remember the name of it. I'll, I'll send it to you after I get home, but I'll send you the name. And so she let me borrow these books. And individually, I sat down with Blakesley. And Blakesley is, she's 13 now, but she is way more chatty than Max's. Max's personality, I think we've talked about this probably, is he's very much like Ryan, very stoic and introverted. And even though we have a great relationship, he is very introverted. So I was a little more worried about Max being that it would be harder to talk to him. So I sit down with Blake's Lee.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I was like, I want you to read this book. We kind of went through it together. And her eyes were just like saucers, you know, like, what are you talking about? You're blowing my mind. This is like the American Girl book that my generation got. Yes. Yes. Actually, I almost got that book.
Starting point is 00:22:31 but I figured that's more of like a puberty thing and less of a sex thing that's more of like a girl's body change book yes but I think they I think they actually have a sex one now anyway so so with her she was hysterical all questions you know like
Starting point is 00:22:47 are you kidding me like that's how I what are you talking about like I feel like she was kind of mad at me for like you know telling her about this thing that happens to everyone puberty plus like you know sex and that's how you're born
Starting point is 00:23:01 you know. So did you like say, did you like say explicitly and then like the penis goes into the vagina? Oh yeah. We went through everything. I mean, she was truly mind-blown. She didn't know about this stuff from school. No, she was younger. This was probably when she was 10. I think she was either 9 or 10. Okay. That's probably around the time like rumors started swirling at school that this is how it happened. And you're like, you are kidding. No. No way. And I think that TikTok had just started. And so there were like I was worried that she would find out from other people and I wanted it to be from me. So, so I told her and then Max, which, you know, now he's had a phone for a while. And if you try to have a conversation with him, you actually have to tell him to put
Starting point is 00:23:44 his phone down so he'll listen to you. But he was, he sat. I did it in his room. I closed the door so he didn't feel weird about, you know, having his sister around. And we went through the book to. I left the book with him, but when we were in his room, he was completely focused on me and what I was saying and super respectful of everything I was saying and how I was saying it. He didn't have a ton of questions, but I was just really impressed that I didn't have to continue to tell him to pay attention and that this was an important conversation. He was actually just really respectful and listened. And then I left the book with him. And who knows if he actually read any of it. We've talked a little more about it
Starting point is 00:24:34 since then, if anything ever comes up. And, you know, how to treat a woman and how you have to be respectful. And I don't know, it's a really, really important conversation. And I was super nervous, but it actually went really well. Do you think that he had any idea from school? I think he probably had somewhat of an idea, but he was a little older. I feel like there was a funny question he asked, but I cannot remember what it was at this point. Ryan might remember. But anyway, it actually just went, it went really well. Now they know, I feel like it's so important.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You know, in my generation, my mom just gave me a book and that's it and didn't talk at all about it. And I wanted to be the one to have this discussion with them because I feel like it instills that sense of connection in them so that they know that they can come to me if they have any questions. And of course, go to Ryan too. But if they have any questions or any difficulties, I want them to always know that I am there for them and I am more than happy to talk about anything with them. So, and when I was growing up, I didn't really feel like I could go to my parents about that stuff. It was just, you know, we hadn't talked about it at all. She just handed me a book. And so I think now, Blakesley and I have really open communication and I know that she knows she can come to me.
Starting point is 00:26:11 And I hope that Max does too. Oh, that's awesome. Is there any times that you're watching TV with them and something popped up and you're like, oh, God, they're too young to address this. And I know what they're going to ask about it. Oh my God, all the time. But I can't remember it now because I feel like now it comes up. Max has watched so many movies that I don't even know what movies he's watched. I'm not as worried about everything as I used to be because he's almost 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And he'll go to sleepovers and watch. He loves horror movies. Oh, I cannot stand horror movies. Totally into horror movies. And I'm sure there's there's new to do. and sexual content and discussions. But I can't remember one specific moment. But yes, there have been a lot of moments
Starting point is 00:27:04 where I feel like we pause the TV. If anything is coming up, we just pause it. And then we redirect, go do something else. Let's take a break. Let's go to the bathroom and then maybe forward it to where we don't have to watch that part together. A little awkward when you're sitting with your parents and a sex scene comes on any show.
Starting point is 00:27:23 I do. I feel like I might have told you about this. So there, we had iPads. I don't know, like seven, eight years ago. And it was like a family iPad. And I go on to look on Safari for something. And I open it up. And it is graphic. Let's just say. Oh, yeah. Graphic. And they were young. And I was like, what? It ended up that I'm not going to, I'm not going to say who did this because I don't, you know, maybe they'll listen someday. But it started completely innocent in that it was around Christmas time and they were Googling, baby Jesus. No. Oh, ho, ho. that's so funny oh my god oh yeah i wonder what we'd find if we could okay how did baby jesus turn into this baby jesus and then i think there was a picture um of like
Starting point is 00:28:40 then it was like baby boys and then baby boy butts yeah i mean the most innocent thing turned into something not innocent at all. Like, how horrifying is that? So my recommendation for parents, even if you think your kids are not looking at anything, they could be Googling something so, so, so innocent as baby Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And so put... Like the most innocent thing you can think of. The most innocent thing. So put the... There are like parental controls on Google that you can... I think every parent should do it no matter how young or old.
Starting point is 00:29:19 old your kids are. Okay. Well, those are some good tips. I mean, maybe not Dawson. He's not using an iPad. Maybe not yet. But soon enough. Right now he's just really into his high contrast books.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yes, I saw that. That was so cute. It's just black and white imagery. And he, he, you throw it in front of his face. And then all of a sudden he goes, like his eyes just grow. It's so adorable. I love him. You'll meet him soon enough.
Starting point is 00:29:47 I'm so sad. He's naughty. Oh, we love all of your responses on Instagram. They're so sweet. Oh, yes. I love him. Love you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:57 All right. Well, thanks for the sex advice for my son in about a decade. Yeah, exactly. You got a little time. Go enjoy your Macy's shopping. Do you have any idea what you're going to get? Like, if you had to say your kids could get you one thing from Macy's right now for Mother's Day, what is at the top of your list i don't know if they carry aviator nation but i'm super into that brand right
Starting point is 00:30:25 now what is it my daughter uh it's like the rainbow they have like a rainbow stripe on the side of the sweatpants or like across the jacket like puffy coats um that sounds so 1999 it's so cute actually it's it's adorable and then um i honestly i need jeans i need jeans like give me some just good ripped up up jeans and I'm a happy girl. All right. Well, I think you can go find that at Macy's today. So have a great time shopping with the ladies. Thank you. Thanks for having me even though you're not here. Of course. Thanks for like basically holding the fork down over there. Oh no. All good.
Starting point is 00:31:03 All good. I got you. Okay. Bye. Bye. And before we get dog mom, Kaelin Miller Keys on the podcast, I just wanted to thank Macy's one more time for being the sponsor for this week's show. So anything that you can think of for your mom from Mother's Day, you could probably find at Macy's. And you can find it at Macy's.com slash gift finder if you just want to do your shopping online. Or you can find something online, then go and run to the store and pick it up. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.
Starting point is 00:31:48 So, we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:32:01 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him
Starting point is 00:32:15 because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, ADHD...
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Starting point is 00:35:32 All right, we got Kaylin on the line, and she's the kind of mom that I was just a mere three months ago, a dog mom. Caitlin, what is the biggest responsibility as an adoptive dog mom? Because you guys have basically fostered twice and then you've ended up adopting. So what is it that you just like have in your soul that is like, I need to mother these dogs? Well, it's so weird. If Dean hadn't broken his leg, what was it, like two years ago, I don't think we ever would have had a dog because we were just traveling to.
Starting point is 00:36:09 much. So before he broke his like, we were only home like one week at a time. And then he broke his leg, we fostered Pappy. We fell in love. And once Pappy passed, we just felt this little emptiness in our home. So then we found Alistair and adopted Alistair. But we've always been drawn to seniors because puppies are always going to get adopted. And I think the senior ones like, people look at them. They're like, oh, they're five or six or seven. And we don't want that we want our dog to live for a long time but senior dogs are just the best ever i encourage everyone to at least look at them well that is so sweet they're so so so sweet uh you guys really like create a cool life for your dogs like you know they travel with you they go to events and stuff
Starting point is 00:36:55 like that do you find that is something that like keeps them young i honestly think so i think traveling with dogs like they're always finding new things to see new things to smell i think it definitely gave papi a longer life yeah we haven't been able to travel too much with alster yet just because he is uh more difficult but he's with the trainer right now and we're hoping like soon enough and a trainer even said last night soon enough we can have people and he can be around people it's just getting him trained first and my last question for you is something that like I struggle with now being a mom to a dog and a baby. And that is like, how much do you play with a dog during the day? Or does your dog just kind of like lounge around? Because I feel so guilty
Starting point is 00:37:47 because I'm like, I need like a designated play hour with Lois where she just gets all the pets and we play catch and all that. But I don't have time for it. Is that something that you guys do on a daily basis is like it's this playtime yeah it's kind of on alister's terms like alister gets super hyper and suddenly he'll be like he'll just like start play nipping at our hand or like pulling on our shirt and he lets us know like now it's time for you to throw the toy it's time for you to pay attention to me oh okay that's so sweet that also keeps them young and their heart healthy and oh there's not enough time in a day to be any sort of mom we need i need like another 12 hours to really accomplish everything.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I can't imagine it from your perspective, but I feel that from just a dog mom's perspective. Thank you. All right. Caitlin, thanks for joining us. And you can hear Kaylin regularly on the Help I Suck a Dating podcast. Thanks for being here, Caitlin.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Bye. Thank you. Bye. We are now joined by another Bachelor mom, Ashley Frazier. My son wants to make a little cameo appearance. So if you hear him whining in the background, that's just some saying hi. Ashley, um, my first question for you is, does it ever get to feel routine? Do you ever get used to the fact
Starting point is 00:39:15 that I am now sitting with a baby carrier on my chest and my hair in a classic bomb bun? I haven't washed my face yet today, but I'm proud to say that I have brushed my teeth. I will say it just changes. Like this stage, it just is one. And then the next one's going to be totally different. And it's just going to be as hard. It's just different. It changes. But how do you do two?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Like how? Oh, Dawson. How do you do two? It doesn't seem possible. How apart are your girls? They're two years apart, almost to the day. Find that to be like ideal. Jared and I are both two and a half years apart from our siblings.
Starting point is 00:39:58 And that's kind of what I want for Dawson. Was it helpful that the one was able to talk and walk at that point? Yes, and she was potty trained. And so pretty much potty trained all the way. So that was very helpful. So, oh, he's so cute. I can't. She was potty trained by two.
Starting point is 00:40:20 I feel like that is ahead of the game. But, I mean, we were in COVID, so we didn't have too much to do. So it made it a little easier of a time. No one was going anywhere, so we didn't have to worry about it. As Ashley is now listening to my baby crying, and the way I look, I have to know what was the hardest phase of motherhood for you thus far? And what was the most rewarding and your favorite? I would say at the beginning, when I first had Navy, my oldest, it was really hard because I let so many outside voices fulfill this, like, need to be a perfect mom. And I was telling someone
Starting point is 00:41:02 earlier, once I probably hit three or four months, I realized, no one's going to know whether I take their advice or not. Why don't I just do it my way? And Aaron and I had a big conversation about it. And he's like, do what your gut tells you. You know, he's very much like, you're the mom, you have the intuition, I'll follow your lead, which is very helpful. And I know that a lot of people don't get that, but he was so helpful in that, and that was priceless. But once I let go, it really became so much easier because I was just, just let what my gut said lead me. Besides that, was there anything that you did significantly different between your first and second? No, I pretty much followed that gut of what felt right in the moment. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:48 I've breastfed both of them for such a long time. Um, at, Navy, I breastfed for 18 months, was pregnant, and then I breastfed Everly over a year. So, I mean, maybe that was a little bit different. But, you know, we were in COVID, so we were home a lot, too. Versus with Navy, we were out and about, showing her to everyone. And then the next one, we were just home. So that was very different. Oh, well, I've got to know.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Do you see any differences between the two possibly because one, one out? out more than the other? Funny you say that because Everly, growing up in COVID, is more outgoing than Navy. Navy's pretty shy, which I'm surprised that that is not the opposite way. Everly, you would think not being around people as much. She'd be more shy, but she's not. So she's more of my outgoing butterfly. Ash, we are between a new business, a new house and a new baby,
Starting point is 00:42:52 Jared and I definitely have not had a lot of date time, couple time. How do you keep the relationship thriving in a time like this? Because we're certainly not, not, like, we are great. We're just, we are not romantic. We're not like, it's not like, oh, we're just a cute young Sprite couple. I know. Is that gone forever? No, it's not gone forever.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I promise it comes back. But just go out. Take some time for you guys. And someone once told me, go out and can you try to not talk about the baby for a minute? And we do try that. It's really hard because you think about how cute they are and you miss them. And then you go down this little memory of like, oh, my gosh, look how big Navy is from last year at this time. But it does come back.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's not gone forever. I promise. Okay. That is really, really good to know. And is there any advice from your mom or just like observations that you had growing up that you've implemented in the lives of your daughters? Yeah, that's really good. I think making sure they're in church, our family is in church is such a good point for us
Starting point is 00:44:07 because at the end of the day, that's the foundation that I want them raised on. So that's really important to me. My mom was tough. She, you know, if you weren't bleeding, you're fine. And so if you weren't bleeding, keep going. Aaron is probably more nurturing when it comes to like girls getting boo-boos. Like he runs to them. And now they're starting to run to him anytime they get a boo-boo.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And I'm like, you're okay. You're not like, you know, so that's something my mom definitely passed down like this little tough cookie side of, you're, it's really just all going to be okay. And your mom instinct, you can hear the cries. You can hear the woes, the mommy crying, you know, when they, I yell for you, you know the difference between whether they're hurt or they're not. So that's, you know. Totally.
Starting point is 00:44:56 It's so funny. Now, like, every time I'm not in the same room as him, I can just, it's like I have a supersonic ear for crying now. Yeah. Because I wouldn't normally be able to hear like that level, right? Have you been in the shower and heard him crying? Yes. I swear I've figured it out. I think it's the drain.
Starting point is 00:45:19 It's the way the water flows into the drain. It makes me think like my child is crying in the background. 1,000% and like, but for the most part, it's, yeah, always correct. It's nothing. Oh, it's nothing. It's nothing. I don't know. I have this irrational fear that that is exactly when something terrible is going to happen
Starting point is 00:45:40 when I'm washing my hair, soap is and my hair and I'm naked. Something is going to happen in that moment where I'm. have to rush someone to the hospital that is my like when I think about what could be a nightmare that moment showing up at the hospital like that do you have any other anxieties that started when you first became a mom that have kind of continued on yeah i i i have this conversation all the time i feel i hate to say but i feel like i became so morbid i'm so fearful of something happening to me yeah it's the stairs for me it's like every single time i go down the stairs with him, I just see us falling.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Don't walk with socks on, on wood stairs. Yeah, all those things I've learned to not do. I'm just always afraid, like, when I travel, when I leave, whenever I come, when I go, when they leave, when they come and go, who's driving them? I've got to the point where I just really don't even want anyone driving my child, but me or Aaron. I'm like, there's no need for it. I don't think that anybody has driven him other than me and Jared, and I don't think I want
Starting point is 00:46:42 that to change anything soon. I'm sorry, I just gave you that anxiety now. No, no, no, I've had the anxiety. Oh, man. What is your worst? The grandparents, his parents are like, we can keep a car seat base in our cars, too, just in case. And I'm like, eh, definitely not you, grandpa, friend, because I know how you can drive. Just say yes, because at the end, you can kind of probably figure it out.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Those are other tips that I realized you can kind of just say, okay, fine, that's great. And then you don't have to take it or you can figure something else or say, you know what, I'm going to do it. this time or Jared's going to take him this time, you know, you can always figure out ways to maneuver around those situations, I promise. Okay. Well, I really appreciate the advice and I'm really glad you got to spend the day with Macy's getting your nails done and like shopping and all of that. If there is one item at Macy's that your girls could get you for Mother's Day, what would you want it to be? Oh, man, maybe some Chanel makeup. That's an easy go-to, right? Yes. That is a good go-do. Yeah. Look at him. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Oh, he's so precious.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. I hope you had a great day. I did. Thank you so much, Ashley. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on. the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to Meets. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:48:47 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance, bro? Tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards.
Starting point is 00:49:34 If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. When you do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates, I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees and be more affordable.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt when it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand that's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to go away just because you're avoiding it. And in fact, it may get even worse.
Starting point is 00:50:16 For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number. a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training.
Starting point is 00:50:52 These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, got you. On America's crime lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Next up on our Mother's Day special, we have Annalise Puccini with her baby dog and her mom.
Starting point is 00:52:36 So, Annalise, how long have you been a puppy mom? We got Posey in August, and it's her one-year birthday next month. So, yeah, she's just a little one still. So cute. How has that adjustment been? Because people talk about waking up all the time with a human baby, but those little puppies will wake you up a lot in the middle of the night, too. And you know what's nice? With my baby, baby, if he goes to the bathroom, all I have to do is go into his nursery and change him.
Starting point is 00:53:14 But in the dog situation, you might be, you know, if you're trying to properly train, walking them at 4.30 in the morning. And that freaks me out, you know? So it's kind of funny. I'm so used to, like, dog life that there's been multiple times with Dawson, it's like, oh, after this feedy, I'm going to have to take him out. I'm like, oh, you don't have to take them out. You just got to change his diaper. It's very relieving. This is easy.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I can do it when I want to do it. Well, I guess you kind of tell you when they're like, okay, you get this thing off me. Yeah. But there was many times in the beginning that I was like taking her out in the middle of the night. And but you get used to it. And you just like, it's funny. I think it's probably like with a baby baby too. You just, you're like, you do for the people and the things that you love, you know?
Starting point is 00:54:02 And you like, you're, you forget. like what you're doing and you're just like your natural instincts take in you know take over like for your baby or for your dog or whatever now your mom's there she is how many kids do you have sally oh just one that's all i could you know i got one good one i wanted a like five or six but i only got one my mom was told she could never have kids actually yeah she's a miracle baby here oh my gosh a that's amazing um so because of that and because there was only one child with do you guys feel like your relationship is even closer do you think there's more of a friendship relationship than maybe if there's multiple siblings um yeah probably because we didn't have to divide time with
Starting point is 00:54:50 other you know for their sisters but she was always really popular as they're friends who had siblings because she'd play with the siblings and and you know the parents would love that Since you did have, since she was a miracle baby, do you think about other people that were in your position on Mother's Day and the fact that, you know, a lot of women out there want to be moms and they're having a hard time doing so? Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, I pretty much thought we were going to have to just, well, it wasn't a bad way to go, but we were in the process of adopting. And my mom did in vitro, and she, I mean, she was definitely one of the, I mean, you could probably relate to a lot of women that. have had trouble getting pregnant or, you know. Yeah, and it seemed like all my friends were getting pregnant,
Starting point is 00:55:38 but like before they even wanted to, you know, with the first time they even thought about it, it was like, there they were. So it's kind of one of the last of my friends, but, you know, I didn't give up hope that either we'd adopt or it'd happen naturally. And once I had her, I said, okay, now I can keep going. And I have a stepbrother now, so it feels like it's funny. how, you know, how family just, like, comes together at some point. Now we just have a big modern family and nieces and nephews and, you know, like my stepdad's
Starting point is 00:56:13 ex-wife comes to holiday functions and, you know, it's just like one big extended family, which is so nice. You know, you don't always get the family that you thought you were going to get, but you get the family that you need. Aw. Yeah. And her stepbrother is also an only child, so both of them wouldn't have you know, extended family, so it worked out. Aw, that does work out really nicely. Annalise, do you want to be your mom one day? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I'm in the process of freezing my eggs right now. So, hopefully, that's in the cards. When did you decide that? If you don't mind, I'd love to get to know a little bit more about that decision. It's been something I've been thinking about for, I mean, a long time. But it's just hard because you, I'm 37 now, so I feel like every relationship that I've been in. I'm like, maybe this is the one that I'm going to have kids with and I'll hold off. And then that relationship doesn't work out. And then I put it off a little bit longer. And then I think
Starting point is 00:57:11 you can put off certain things in your life. But I think at 37 now, I'm like, okay, I got to stop putting this off. And I need to, even if I am in the perfect relationship that I think maybe this is the guy, like I'm not going to wait for that to be the reason that I wait anymore. This is like, it's a fully decision for me at this point where I'm like, I'm just going to do it and it's going to be my little nest egg. And if I need them, I need them, you know. Do you think that's going to take the pressure off dating and you can just kind of like relax and enjoy without feeling your biological clock tick? Oh, I think absolutely. I've heard so many stories of people be like, yeah, as soon as I like, you don't have that energy of like, I need this to happen. Yes. You're not forcing it anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Like, I completely feel you. I was going to give it, I was going to give egg freezing to myself for my 30th birthday if it weren't for Jared coming around just like a couple weeks beforehand. Yeah, I think, I mean, it's a smart decision. I think for anyone who's like, who that's a question, it's just a, yeah, look into it, see what you're able to do and put your, you know, fertility before anything else. Because, you know, you don't have forever with that. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:58:28 There's a timeline for sure. I know. So what part of the process are you at now, if you don't mind sharing? Fairly, I mean, fairly early. I think my retrieval is scheduled right now for May 5th. Oh, right around the corner. I mean, awesome. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I know. But, I mean, it's pretty, at this stage, it's pretty easy. There's nothing I really have to do. for like tell my doctor when I'm on my period and not. And then that's it to kind of figure out like, yeah, to figure out like when is going to be the best time to collect the eggs. I thought that you had to do shots and hormones and such. So I will, but it won't be until I think it's next week. I go in on Monday actually and then we'll start like figuring out when that all happens. Honestly, I feel so naive. It's funny because I've always felt like
Starting point is 00:59:23 I get babies. I get, you know, I've always like been really into fertility and like motherhood and all that stuff. So I thought that it'd be something that I'd know a little bit more about, but going in from my first appointment, I was like, oh my gosh, I know nothing about this process. I mean, when my mom did in vitro, it's funny, my only memory really of it was her and my dad were kind of like in a rocky place at that time. And so when my dad left, she was still in the process of the hormones. And so I gave her a couple of her shots, like, as a child. Wow.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, I mean, I know I'm getting kind of personal here, but I am curious. I'm like, I am vulnerable. You know that. If Annalise was your miracle baby because the doctor said that you probably wouldn't be able to conceive naturally, but you did?
Starting point is 01:00:16 No, I got pregnant, but then I lost the baby. And then they said my other tube was damaged and this and that. So they said, you know, you have like 10% chance of maybe ever getting pregnant on your own. And I just, you know, every cycle that I wasn't, I kept thinking, oh, my goodness. So then we were looking at in vitro, well, we looked in adoption first. And then we had her. So I didn't think I need to go in vitro because I thought I'd do it naturally again. So in vitro was after me.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. So you did start that after you. Yeah. It's amazing to know that 37 years ago we were doing IVF. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:51 certainly something that they didn't talk about too much back then. Yeah. I think it was a lot more taboo. Like, you know, you weren't, there was something broken, you know, if you had to go that route. And so I think a lot of people kept it so much more hidden where it's like I love that now. And people are having, you know, children later in life. And like all of these things that or I've had like friends who have not postpartum, but like they have depression during their pregnancy.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And, you know, a real struggle. with that. So I'm so glad that there's so many of these like topics around that because we see, it's like Instagram versus reality. We see like one version of things that just seems so blissful and wonderful. And I'm sure there's moments that are like that. And I'm sure there's some people that that's how it is. But then there's all these other stories and it's good that people are being able to feel seen in those stories, you know? Yes. And I'm so grateful for you guys sharing both of those journeys. I really appreciate that. It was an aspect of motherhood that I didn't think that we were going to be able to talk about today, and I'm glad we did.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah. Also, I'm so distracted because Dawson's little face is so freaking cute. Oh, my gosh. He's being so silly right now. For our listeners, his eyes are just bugging out of his head looking at the screen. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, thank you, ladies, for joining us.
Starting point is 01:02:12 I hope you had a great day. Thanks to Macy's, and you were able to get some goodies for each other. Happy first mother's day to you. Thank you. something in the, I literally put in the mail for you yesterday. A couple days ago, yeah. Is that a book? It's a book and a little something for Dawson.
Starting point is 01:02:28 So, um, thank you so much. Yeah, Annalise quickly, please tell everybody about your new book. I wrote a book called AP Unwritten. It is a collection of my, uh, poetry, and art that sort of journeys through love, heartbreak, and healing. And, uh, and it's just amazing. It's like, I've gotten so much feedback already of people who have been like, oh, I totally can see my story in that.
Starting point is 01:02:50 relate. And I feel like at the end of the day, like, that's why I think people love you so much because you're so relatable in so many levels and like why I think talking about all of these things and like and sharing just a raw, vulnerable version of like my heartbreak and things that I've been through. It's just it gives people a chance to feel like they're being seen. So I think it's so important. Oh, awesome. I'm so excited to read it. Yeah, you'll get it soon. Thank you. All right. See you ladies. Bye. Thank you. all right almost famous listeners that is our mother's day special edition thanks to macy's don't forget to head over to macy's dot com slash gift finder if you have no idea what to get
Starting point is 01:03:33 your mom okay because macy's has got you covered in that department and you can order it right there on the website or you can go find something online and then go pick it up in store they have everything you know think about it makeup perfume housewares um clothes, shoes. Macy's has got some beautiful stuff in there. So check it out. And thank you again to all the moms who joined us. And shout out to all the moms out there.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Now more than ever, I have an appreciation for all the hard work that is involved in our lives. You guys are all seriously superwomen. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.
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