The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor Beauty

Episode Date: September 22, 2020

Ben and Ashley have a lot of questions about Colton & Cassie’s “reality show”. Is it real? What does it have to do with the restraining order? We get some insider information. Peter Weber threatened to spill some major “Bachelor Tea”! Ben shares what he thinks might come out… NDA or not!You’ll be shocked to hear Ben’s plans for kids after he and Jess get married! And find out which of Kaitlyn Bristowe’s ex boyfriends has a new girlfriend! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And Ashley comes on to the podcast today. And you've heard me tell it before. I'll never back down from this statement. Ashley Kennedy is a absolutely beautiful human physically and soulfully inside and out. But she shows up to the podcast today. And I'm learning more and more as I, go about women. I haven't known. I didn't know how much I didn't know about women until really this podcast, getting engaged to Jessica and just being more curious about the ins and outs of a woman's

life. Ashley shows up to the podcast and her face is like red and it has like skin falling off of it. Yeah. I've never seen this before. Ashley for myself and our listeners, can you educate me on what is going on. Okay, well, I'll use this time to shout out Olga Lawrence. She's like my skincare go-to. She has really been the woman in charge of Halliberry's skin for like the past 20 years. So like, yeah, if there's somebody to listen to, it's Olga. So I have done two vampire facials to get rid of my melasma over the past couple months. And they just really, they, they weren't as effective as I would like them to have been. a vampire facial. I'm going to interrupt you because you got to help me out here. I don't know if you

ever saw those pictures of Kim Kardashian where she had like blood on her face. So basically it's a little needle and it's it kind of, it's like a, think of electronic pen with needles on it. And they like inject your blood into that needle thing, that pen. And then they like stab your face all over. And it's like collagen producing. And it's like, collagen. makes you like flake off that first layer of skin because that wasn't as effective with my really bad melasma it's just like I never had it until like a year and a half ago and then all the sudden I was like why do I have a mustache that's just not of hair it's just not of hair and then it gets worse in the sun it's people who are like all of toned they are more susceptible to

it um I know melasma because just has melasma yeah exactly exactly and I so I'm doing now the gold standard. So the vampire facial takes like three days to recover from. This, what I have on my face now, the Cosmalon Peel is definitely something we have to hide a little bit more. You actually have to keep a face mask on for 10 hours. So on Saturday, I didn't do anything and I kept like, yeah, it's easy now. But this whole thing is great because it's easy now. So now I'm red and peely, at least for the next four days. And I'll probably not be back to my my regular skin for like another month or so but when I'm done the before and afters if they are accurate and they're all over the internet I might not have melasma at all anymore and if you guys

don't know what melasma is it's it's pigmentation it's darker pigmentation spots around your face and with women especially when it's hormone related it often goes in that mustache area yeah so um I texted your fiancee about it I told her what a perfect time it is for you know to do this because of the mask and being able to stay home and all that. Yeah, she'll be getting it. She goes, um, I said, I can tell you who my esthetician is and she just sends it to you and then she FaceTime to the instructions. She goes, that would be amazing. I love that it's at home even better. So your fiance is going to look like this before you know it, but then she's going to feel so confident about not having to wear

foundation all the time to cover up those brown spots. Well, here's the thing what happens when you fall in love. I'm learning this, right? I find Jessica Clark to be, like, the most beautiful human ever created. I do. But I am now also realizing how much I just love her in general. And so, like, I know that sounds really corny, but, like, she could, like, what I know my reaction to her would be very similar to just being like, wow, hon, this is really interesting. Like, I don't hate it. I get why.

But, like, now I'm just more intrigued. Like, it's not even, there's, like, nothing she could do really that. like a turnoff, I feel like, like a complete turnoff. It would just be more of like a curiosity of like, so you did this so your face can just like flake off. I don't get it. I respect it. And to close this thought, you made a comment that I'm super intrigued by because melasma was an insecurity of Jessica's for a long time. And even when she's first started dating me, she was like, yeah, I have this like dark thing above my lip and it's weird. And I know it's like, but it's like nothing I can do about it, you know, like she would try to explain it to me. I get it. It's not ideal. But you're saying

that like molasma could be gone for like a period of time forever. Oh, well, I mean, this will significantly subside it. And then you're going to have to use other products that will keep it at bay. Wow. Wow. What a thing. To be a woman. Just, I mean, absolutely incredible experience, but just a wildly, wildly, there's just so many things that you do that I respect, love, and also... Yeah, it's wild. You guys are so lucky. Like, I just, Jared and I laugh all the time about what, like, we have to go through biologically, that you guys won't ever. Yeah.

I mean, I have hair all over my body. It will never leave me. Yeah, it will never be ripped off my body. Well, hey, with that, we have a great podcast coming up. We're going to share a little bit more about my life and what's going on in my life. And then following, we're going to go and interview one of our favorites of all the time, Chris Stranberg. And then we have hot topics to talk about. Yes, and there are some hot topics out there.

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It's a great way to see what the blueprint is for success. Listen to the Wellscast on the IHeartRadio app on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get podcasts these days. All right, Ben, so what's the big news that you have to tell us? Well, Ashley, this is, it's weird because this news is, I can't understate how big of a deal this is to me. And I want to give a little backstory for the Almost Famous Podcast because this is the first time I'll be really talking about it. But two years ago, I, and we've talked about a lot in the podcast.

Like, I just, I don't know if I struggle. I just have always, I fall quickly, if I'm in a bad place, I fall quickly into self-doubt. I fall quickly into feeling isolated and disconnected. And then, you know, I have this show happen a few years ago where I admit that I feel unlovable. and that felt like a like I've like my buddy still joke with me about that and and I've kind of joked about it too because it was a huge moment for me on The Bachelorette but it it didn't feel like it it felt like just like a passing by conversation that Caitlin and I had that you see on the show a lot and you don't know the depth of it but when I said that it was the first time of my life on the show that I had actually admitted something that was true to myself that was like vulnerable and hard to admit that like I truly didn't feel like I was worthy of love. or I didn't feel like I would find somebody that would say, hey, you're the person for me for

the rest of my life. And, and then I realized that that even went deeper. Like, it rolled into my friendships. Like, why would my friends, like, why would my friends be really friends with me? Like, what do I offer them? What do, why would they want to spend their time and share their life with me? It rolled into my relationship with God and my relationship, um, with myself. So anyways, two years ago, I started on a project to write a book about all of this. Um, um, And it's been two years of like really weird conversations with myself, really hard conversations with myself. You know, a lot of the times as I come on to the podcast and I share, hey, I'm just struggling

with envy or I'm struggling with doubt. It's because I was in the midst of writing this thing and I was pulling back these old stories and these old memories and the memories that are still hitting me today, reliving them and trying to put them into a book. Yeah. And today, yes, today, the book cover was announced, which means the book is done, it is turned in, it is edited, is completed, the cover is released, and I am now on the road to releasing this thing that has been, it has really taken up the most time of anything I've ever done in my life. I totally understand what you mean when you get so introspective with yourself that, like, it's almost when somebody comes up to you during that point where you're like, I'm just so into myself. I'm just like so in my head right now. Like I can't even social. Like I can't socialize. Do you do that? Like when I think that's what you're talking about, right? When you're like working on writing, like when I'm in the writing zone for some reason, I get really sucked in and it's hard for me to come out. Like I need to like actually like gradually like gradually push myself out within a couple hours. Like I can't just go from writing to being social. No, you're you're spot on. Especially, you know, like the book is broken up in the four sections.

connection with self-connection with others, connection romantically in a connection with God. And like within this, I shared things that my parents didn't know about me. Like my problems with addiction. My problems with doubting my faith, doubting a God above. My problems, you know, obviously with feeling unlovable, like truly feeling unlovable. And then, you know, going back to like, I always like kind of picture when I'm in my unhealthiest place. And I don't live in this unhealthy place all the time. But when I'm in my unhealthy place, I do. I feel like the kid looking at the party of all my friends that I wasn't invited to. And I feel like I walk through life sometimes, especially when I was writing this,

feeling that way. Like I'm pulling back these memories. I'm speaking this into myself. And as a result, I'm living it out in my daily life. And it put me in some weird places the last two years, but my hope with all of it. So my hope the whole time and what like my friends and my family and Jessica continue to reinforce me is like, I'm doing this so that maybe some, somebody out there will feel less alone when they read it. Absolutely. Like I'm living this and like going through all these weird emotions because maybe somebody will read it and go, wow, I've always thought like I was the only one that

felt left out. I always thought like I was the weird one. I always thought that nobody really liked me or that there was no big purpose to my life. And maybe there's just one, I believe that there's just one person listening to this or one person that will read the book and maybe they'll feel less alone. and they'll take that into their day of life, then it was all worth it? And that's what's going to happen. So, you guys, I got an advanced copy of the book, and it's so fantastic.

Ben's writing, you can hear his voice in it. It's amazing. He's going to do just what he was just saying that he hopes for. There's going to be so many people that read it and feel less alone, which the title of the book is. Alone in plain sight. So the cover is beautiful. I'm so happy for you. I love that you have turned something that you felt was just you and really found an audience

that needs to hear the message. I appreciate you, Ashley. Thank you. No, it's really exciting. I really appreciate you reading it. And yeah, you know, it's not a tell-all book. I know for some that's going to be kind of throwing off of what is expected or but I guess for me, I don't have a lot to tell. Like we talk about the show all the time on this podcast. And, And there's just not a lot hidden anymore in my journey of The Bachelor world. And if there is, then I hope to be able to think of those things and say on this podcast and share those experiences. And so when I write this, it was, you know, it does go into like my relationships from the show.

Like there is a section on Lauren in there. And Lauren and I were able to talk about that. And I got her approval on that. That's great. And because, you know, she's been a huge part of my life and a great part in many ways. But there isn't the juicy details of the show. but there is hopefully honesty about the show and honesty about the experience that maybe isn't known or maybe would be relatable. So I appreciate you reading it. I just wanted to share that

with the almost famous listeners because this is the first time I've been talking about it publicly. I've kept this to my chest for a long time now. I'm ready to start sharing it. You can start pre-ordering right now. Great Christmas gift. It's a great Christmas gift. And I'll be talking about it more and more. But hopefully won't bug everybody on this podcast and talk about it too much but it probably will come up so alone in plain sight has been announced it is my book uh can't even believe i'm saying that but i am and uh well that's all we got to talk about with that here um any any questions feel free to reach out and and i'd love to answer him and so don't go to ben's book for juicy bachelor details but you should come here to the almost famous podcast for juicy

bachelor details and we are going to give you some right now let's go through our list of hot topics ben Oh my gosh, Ashley, and there are still hot topics reigning supreme in Bachelor Nation. Yes, we're going to start here with probably the one that everybody's wondering about. We're not going to make you wait to the end of the episode for this one. We're going to start right now with the Cassie Randolph and Colton Underwood situation. Again, this is a sensitive topic. We have had massive amounts of updates and news come in. Cassie's research. training order was granted a little bit less than a week ago. And now the text messages have been released. So Ashley, what do we know about this? And where do we stand? Okay. Well, last week we went over the fact that he apparently put a tracker on her car, that he was in the alley outside her bedroom at her parents around 2 a.m. That he was also kind of lurking. He was also lurking about her apartment in Los Angeles. And then there are also some texts that were released that apparently he was sending her

text at all hours of the day. At one point he said, quote, Cassie, referring to Cassie, is a selfish person who isn't ready to be loved and called her shady. He later apologized, saying that he was lost. And since, you know, sources have said, sources with a quote around them, in my opinion, that Cassie was doing this, is doing this for attention, and that they were in the midst of filming a reality show about their breakup. It involved Colton, Cassie, and her entire family.

So Michelle Randolph got to hosting on Instagram this week. saying that her parents never signed anything, whatever part of any type of show. This is Colton's attempt to make Cassie look bad at the press. She also says that she and her boyfriend have not filmed or signed any contracts about this supposed show. It seems like it was probably like a sizzle reel, maybe.

Is it a real, you guys, is like a proof of concept. It's like a mini episode, basically, of a proposed show idea. And I've heard, I'm not sure where I heard it from, but that it was going to be about them dealing with their breakup or like continuing to be friends after their breakup. And all these sources are, I'll just be like honest, like just what's what I'm thinking. Like, I just really trust Cassie.

I think that she is the kind of person that would never seek attention like this. I really don't think that she cares. Like, she wants to be a speech pathologist. She probably likes the, you know, the additional income that her Bachelor fame brings her, but she is not the kind of person that is ever going to go and do something for attention, especially getting a restraining order for no parent reason on her ex-boyfriend. Well, and we talked about it before, and I know the listeners out there, you know, Colton had a great following, a big following, and listeners out there probably right now are hearing this and going,

wait, why aren't you being more supportive of Colton? And I want to preface all this and say that we aren't not supportive of Colton. Ashley has spoken out many times against cancel culture. We're not saying cancel Colton. We're not saying, not cancel at all. We're not saying, hey, forget about Colton. But what we need to report is that the restraining order was granted. And that's a legal process that goes far beyond a show or fame or anything.

Like if a restraining order is granted, I think we all need to take a step back. and realize, hey, there was a proven amount of facts there that made a judge, an impartial judge, say, this needed to be put in place. Like, this was a good decision for Cassie to do. Now, at the end of all this, I know Ashley and I talk offline about it, like we want both parties to heal, to recover, to come back from this in some way, right? We don't want either of them to just disappear and to be hated on. that's not the point that this is far bigger than the attention they could get from a show or from fame and i know the colton supporters out there are going to go holy cow like you guys like you you know you don't know the fact like no we don't know all the facts but a judge does and exactly

and what we need to say here is hey what cassie did the judge said okay to what colton did was obviously out of place and was wrong it doesn't mean that he needs to be forgotten or pushed aside. It doesn't mean that people need to hate him. What it does mean, though, and I think for all of us, and I will go on my soapbox here, and I know somebody out there is going, Ben, stop talking. I'm going to say this. What it does mean, though, is that in this time, we need to be sensitive to Cassie. We also need to be sensitive to Colton, but we need to understand that there was wrongs here that happened, and we need to accept that. We need to accept that there was wrongs done in this process. And this is not a joking thing. This is a big deal.

This is not a small matter. This is something that has obviously changed their lives, both of their lives. And we hope that Colton can come out of this, humbled, educated, a better person. We also hope Cassie can come out of this, feeling safe, feeling protected, feeling cared for, and loved on. But with all this being said, listeners and Colton fans, you have to realize, where we're at now, which was not where we're at a week ago. We're at a place where this is going to court.

And that means it's massive. These are like facts now, not alleged rumors. Yes. Or alleged allegations. But do not cancel Colton. Pretty much facts. Don't cancel him.

No. Don't cancel them. Don't hate on him in times of great despair and of great need. We need healing and we need love. And both of these people need that right now. So don't cancel Colton, but recognize that there was a problem. Yeah.

And Ben, how would you feel if Colton just came out with super honest and said, like, look, I was hurting. I was in a very sad, depressed place, wanting my girlfriend back, missing my ex-girlfriend and somebody who was my first serious relationship. And I went a little overboard. Like, I crossed the line. And I hope people accept my apology on this and that I'll learn from it, right? Like, how would you feel if you did that?

I mean, it's the Hannah Brown thing, right? Like, I like Hannah. I love Hannah. She's a fun person to watch. But for weeks, we were sitting here on this podcast going, Hannah, we just need you to talk. Like, say something so that, like, we can then come about this in an educated way. But when there's nothing being said, we sit here, assuming things and reading things and hearing things. And we don't know what to do with it.

It's the same thing here with Colton is Colton, he's not untouchable. uh he messed up and i think at some point whenever he's ready just like hannah waited till she was ready and it's his timeline it's cassie's timeline then it would be nice to hear him come out and and i mean it looks like right now what we would need for definitely cassie's sake is probably a public apology saying he was wrong but hey and i and i don't know how far he went with this like I don't know how scared she was and I don't know all the behind the scenes. What I do know is love does crazy things to you. Oh, yeah.

And what I do know is love can change you as a person overnight. And so if Colton came out and said, hey, I went too far. I made big and terrible mistakes, but I did it because I was broken. My response to him would be, I get it. Yes, you were wrong. I get it. And now what are we going to do about it? Right. I feel like people are more apt to forgive when people are being honest than like forgive him if he were to just keep denying these. Like if he keeps denying them, I think it's going to be a worse look. That's the one I mean.

Well, and you know, with, you know, we can blame. We can all blame everybody else for our problems. We can blame, you know, it's a common thing on the show. Come off the show. Blame producers. If you, if it's not what you wanted it. Come off the show, blame the cast. Blame other people. blame if we're in relationships blame your exes all these things right but at some point we all i mean and i'm learning this right now like we all have to own up to our issues and you know this as somebody who's married right like in a marriage you can't just blame your spouse the old time that's not going to go well for you now like you have to start taking ownership for your mutual mistakes and the things that you've done that were at a hand out of line no matter how big of a deal they are. And this is a big deal. And we're wishing the best for both of them, but we're really sensitive here to Cassie and the fact that she's walking through something that is

obviously not ideal. Well, hey, speaking of... Speaking of blaming. Yeah. Peter Weber, who I really do love deeply and he was a great guy, but I don't know where this comes from. Ashley, I need you to teach me. Peter Weber implies he's going to spill Bachelor tea when his NDA is up. This is according to Cosmopolitan. Well, to be honest, Ben, I can't believe that The Bachelor hasn't extended their NDA time. That's true. They have that option, right? Right. Is our contract, like, do we have to be secretive about certain things for the rest of our lives? And then there are certain things that we can start talking about? Or are we like free, free will, total free will on Bachelor production after our contract ends?

Do you know this? It's a little sticky. So, yeah, exactly. If you use the bachelor name and you associate whatever you're saying and doing with the bachelor, then you need their approval for perpetuity. Like they have your rights to air your season to use that for as long as this show exists and even after. Now, when it comes to the tea and whatever kind of tea that is, it gets sticky. Like it's not a clear cut thing for any of us. But there have been so many bachelor tell-alls.

And the tell-alls do give you some good dirt. And it looks like Peter might be doing a tell-all. So Cosmo wrote this article. I think that they're like stretching here. They said that under an Instagram of Peters, he talks about, he writes comments towards the fans. You know, he asks them and says, I'll explain myself one day. He also said, happy y'all are to be. Somebody, so somebody said, happy you all are together, but I wasted my time on this season.

This fan means I shouldn't have watched your season. I wasted my time on it because, like, you didn't end up with, you ended up with the girl that you've met before the season. And that's when he said, I'll explain myself one day. And then he also said in the comments, there's just so much no one knows about it yet. So it'll be good to get it out there. And then he also said to a fan that his NDA is over on March 15th, 2021. And from these comments, Cosmo fans, they're speculating that he's going to either their podcast out or a book out or something like that that will explain why he and

Kelly never got together on the show. Kelly did a did an into story this week kind of going off of this she said somebody said in her questions on Instagram why didn't Peter Picky the first time we all knew it was fate and I do feel like their their coupling was very fate like I mean they met before the show they definitely hit it off there just was something there I always felt but she says as her answer Peter was told slash thought I didn't like him and I was only there to have fun. That's kind of what her storyline was on the show, that she was, you know, that she wasn't all in on Peter the guy because she wasn't like sure she really was getting to know him or, and then

she felt like the show was just not a place of her to find love and that everybody was saying like, oh, Kelly doesn't seem to be taking this seriously. She's only here to have fun. Like, this is kind of stuff we've already known. So, yeah, we'll see if there's more depth to this mystery of why Kelly and Peter didn't end up on the show together on March 15th, possibly. Do you think it's a smart idea if he does a tell-all on this? I mean, it matters in what form. You can do a podcast and start talking about the show, which has obviously been a great thing

for you and I. I would never tell anybody not to do it. I think it's a great thing. You and I enjoy doing it. obviously there's been others that have came about and been very successful talking about the show and breaking down every episode and I would support anybody to do that does that if that's his format great if it's a book again I mean on a day that my book gets released I'm going to say write a book like it's therapeutic it's hard it's difficult you have to really start confronting your own

things and if it's a tell-all form I'm sure he's going to be reliving memories from the show that he's probably forgotten or tried to forget and he'll be writing him down which could be therapeutic um i don't know i don't know what has not been shown in his season that's the part that i'm going to be shocked by because i felt like his season showed more of the behind the scenes than any season ever i mean we had like parental um issues we had we had we had mass i mean i can't even still to this day remember how the triangle of love had existed like it was hannah ann to then mattie for like a few moments and then now to kelly and now he's super happy with kelly if if peter gall means it'd been what should i do i say hey do what

you got to do but this is all worked out pretty good for you like people love you people are still celebrating you you've got a great girl now this this is all played out now maybe not how you dreamed it would be and it wasn't like perfectly like perfect like there were issues involved But it's now, it's a good thing for you. And I would just be cautious anytime anybody wants to take a good thing and make it bad. Totally agree. Yeah, I mean, I can't. If there was a girl on your season and let's just pretend the producers were like, Ben, she's just here to have fun, blah, blah, blah.

Would you really listen to the producers that much? No. But also, with all that being said, and if Peter came on the podcast now, I know he would tell you, like, he, he did. I mean, one of his biggest things was he, he couldn't get a grasp of what was going on in that environment at the time. I mean, it was, it was the whole thing, the whole season was, Peter, put your foot down, stop the chaos, stop the gossip, stop the controversy, like, say something, like, you know, lead this thing forward a little bit. And it was, it was the one thing as the bachelor, like, that people will, will criticize him for the most. But the other part about Peter that people will celebrate is the guy super lovable. He really wanted to find love.

He was really in the pursuit of love on this show. He did it to the best of his ability, and he found it. So I don't know. I guess I go back to this, and we can move forward with this. I don't know what else there is to say. So I'm intrigued. I'll be listening. And, you know, Peter Weber is going to spill the tea.

At least that's what people think once his NDA is up. and at that point in time we'll break it down again i mean i mean there are stories like this there's a lot of stories like this from bachelor nation there's molly mesnick and jasonic honestly there's me and jared it's like we we dated other people on the show and you come to you find the person you're meant to be with along the way it doesn't mean that you don't have feelings for other people um it's really about timing and it's about like getting to know yourself and sometimes like in my case and like in mollie's case you actually need to be separated for the franchise for a while in order for people to discover what they really want

and need well that's everybody's love story right it's timing it's place you could fall for multiple people in your journey but at some point you end you know all the roads lead to that partner that person that matches you best uh and so we'll see we'll be watching uh speaking of women for my season. I do want to give a special shout out. And congratulations to Lauren Heimel, who got married recently. She was on the podcast just a few weeks ago, breaking down the episode of the goat that Lauren and I were in. Congratulations, Lauren Heimel. Big deal. Congrats to Lauren. Also, congrats to Kenny King, who is engaged. It was the perfect place and perfect person the couple says um so i think he was planning he was pretending to his girlfriend

that they were having a family picture day so she was all like cute and dressed up and she said that he had other plans and she says on her instagram of course i say yes to forever with you Kenny king is so underrated in bachelor nation what a freaking sweetheart oh great guy what a great warmth about him yeah that's just that i mean those are good stories and and there's more good stories to talk about. Catherine and Sean Lowe obviously have a few kids. They have three kids. And Catherine has recently came out and said that parenting is a S-H-I-T show.

This according to Us Weekly. Ashley, what's you referring to? Well, basically they have one kid in diapers. They have a two-year-old and a four-year-old. And she just says that everything about their day is somehow related to poop. because it's always poop. And somehow we've never gotten sick or had pink eye, knock on wood, but I've never had pink eye.

It's like a constant show around here. Before we had, before we have kids, before, yeah, this is funny. This happens all the time to us. Before you have kids, she says, people are always trying to sell you on the fact that it's like such an amazing life. Like, oh, kids are the best, right? And she said, they say that so you join the exhaustion club with them. yeah i don't know we've been around jaden tanner enough to i feel like know what what we're getting

into and it seems rough i mean it's rough and like my buddy uh who has three kids now uh he and i used to kind of like hang out together when we were single and go out together and i recently saw him in denver and there's a joy to it that's like indescribable and there's an energy that comes to you as a parent it feels like that like i don't have right now but Then again, I watched my buddy when I hung out with him with his three kids. His head is constantly on a swivel. There's constantly something breaking. There is, yeah, diapers being changed.

There's kids disappearing. Like, it, I left there and I said, I still want kids. I'm still confident. I get scared every time. Yeah, but like, I'm scared. Like, so scared. I love having a neat clean house. And I feel like that's one of the things that's not on the top of my mind when we think about kids.

it's something I'm going to miss so much. Oh, it's absolutely ridiculous. But Catherine and Sean have always been good at highlighting their family and talking about the ends and outs of parenting. It's just a great article to read if you get a chance. But Catherine and Sean, wish you the best. And yes, thanks for being honest. Yeah, Ben, I have a question about kids for you. And I know this is like a long time coming because you and Jess aren't married yet.

But you as planned to move to Denver, right? Yes. So that means that neither of your parents are going to be there. Do you feel like having a set of the parents there, the first kid, or maybe even just always, is something that you would want? Yeah. I do. I mean, I think that's something Jess and I really want is our family, like both of our sets of parents are so awesome. I mean, I really, one of the coolest things about my relationship with Jess is I really love her parents and her family.

like deeply and she feels the same way about mine i want them involved because i just think they're good influences and i think they're a good help and i think they would help guide us in our most troubled times and here's maybe one of the biggest reasons selfishly jess and i have talked about this often is we really want to have kids but also still have a relationship and we want to go out on dates and we want to explore together and i think having a like one of our parents there really would help that and actually add to the child's life like it wouldn't take away anything it wouldn't make us less less or wouldn't make us parents who push our kids to the side it would just make them be able to experience their grandparents and i and i want that for them i totally agree you're right

you're able to keep more of a relationship together when you have your parents to lean on yes so it is important to us um and uh and it might not be for everybody but it is for us switching gears quite a bit from relationships and parenting to now uh rachel lindsay details her first conversation with ex Peter Krause since The Bachelor at this according to e-news online yeah so apparently back in June it seems during the you know the beginning of the black lives matter movement he reached out to her he quote he was asking me questions about it and stuff for some advice about responses he had gotten she said we're adults here and we can all move on you know so it's pretty simple but that's that. I mean, just, yeah, I don't know what to do with this, but it is interesting that

they spoke again, right? I mean, but I look at like JoJo. Exactly. I was going to say most the leads end up talking to or even being friends with their runner up. Definitely, because there's like that respect and you obviously know the person. You're like, yeah, I like you. Like I care about you a lot as a human. Like I obviously. Yeah. And so not shocking, you know, but it's a big deal. And for me, it was a, I remember our very first conversation, and it was almost like a weight lifted. I don't know if it was for her, but for me, it was just like, okay, good. Now we'll probably see each other at events. We'll probably be around each other more than you would be with a typical X. And it's great now that we can at least come into it as friends with that mutual respect

and care for each other. And I'm sure Rachel and Peter are going to now be able to do the same thing, which is, which is really awesome. Speaking of X's, and somebody I'm a friend with. Caitlin Bristow just continues to keep the headlines. Caitlin Bristow is on Dancing with the Stars. If you don't know that, well, I don't know where you've been.

Well, you don't listen to the podcast and you don't watch TV and all that. And here's something really exciting about Caitlin. Lady, she danced to a song by Lady Gaga, and Lady Gaga actually retweeted this. So she saw it and she says, and I quote, it made her cry.

I know, Lady Gaga said, Isn't it weird? Is it weird that this made me cry? I love watching people happy and dancing. So Lady Gaga knows who Caitlin is. And if I were Caitlin, I'd be like, wow, that is maybe the coolest moment of my life. It's just one of those like, I don't know how Caitlin feels. I mean, Caitlin's just a big deal and she's everywhere. She's a celebrity in her. She's like such a celebrity that maybe doesn't excite her to see other celebrities watch. I'd be freaking out. I would be off the wall of Lady Gaga retweeted me. I'd be. telling my family, my friends, my grandma, like that would be wild.

But good for Caitlin. She's still on Dancing with the Stars. Ashley, uh, how is she doing? And she's doing really well. We, she, I saw her dance last week, you know, as I hope all you guys did. She did a fantastic cha-cha with Artem. And Dancing with the Stars airs Tuesday this week. So now that you're listening to this podcast, either late Monday night or Tuesday, make sure

to tune in, watch Caitlin and vote, vote, vote. Bachelor nation just comes out in supports i mean you know it's just a great place uh it's just a great place to spread love and to show the support for the people who have gone on the show um it'd be absolutely incredible uh if kately can win once again uh last two headlines one is we just want to once again uh send our warmest regards and also just our happiest of thoughts to liz sand off from the bachelor um that more details have come out according to people uh that Liz says that they're recently born child, I think it's Jovi, J-O-V-I-E, Noel, was not breathing when she was born, which has to be so scary as a parent. But as they go on in the article

and talk about it was a everything's good now. It was tough. It was one of those really scary moments. But Jovie Noel and the family are healthy and good. And we just want to say once again. We talked about it last week, but we just want to say once again how thankful we are for that. And that that is the headline of the article. So, hey, Ashley, you know, we've talked for a while now. We've talked through the season of COVID. It's actually been really good, I think, for us in our podcast and the listeners. We've had a good time with it. But we're soon approaching a season that we won't have to talk about headlines and do interviews. We're actually going to have a season to break down more teasers are coming out. Ashley, this week, as we get

one week closer to Claire's season, what are you feeling and what are you thinking? I'm thinking how many great puns do they have with Claire's name? You want clarity. You want to clarify. What other ones are there? You want to clear the air? I don't know. Yeah. So many great puns. much pretty Claire um but they they definitely are alluding to in these new uh spots that are that are airing during dancing with the stars that that we that there's some sort of announcement that we are just dying to have that they haven't given us yet which would be tasha well i i mean yes i think we're all assuming it's going to be tasha but the cool part is actually one of the things that you and i are both worried about is if clear left early for whatever reason we're going to miss the

Claire moments that we were expecting, right? We are. Her directness, but we're going to get it. Like, we've already seen the teasers. She yells at a contestant, get out of here. And then we see Chris Harrison doing it. Chris Harrison does best with sitting down with her, having that relationship conversation.

I mean, we're going to get, I don't know if we're going to get enough, Claire. We're going to get at least some Claire still during this season. Oh, we're going to get quintessential Claire, but you're right, Ben. And I haven't quite said it blatantly. But when I did hear that she, you know, might have left the show early. I was like, oh, I was really hoping for 11 weeks of Claire. And I would love 11 weeks of Tasia, too, you know, like two separate bachelor season, bachelorette seasons. But I was definitely looking forward to so much Claireisms. And we're

only going to get possibly a few weeks of them. So, but you're right. I think she will deliver in the weeks that she, she has. Yeah, Claire, Claire will still be Claire. She doesn't change, no matter how long or short she's there. Ashley, up next, we have one of Caitlin Bristow's exes, one of our good friends, Chris Stranberg on the podcast, breaking down everything Caitlin and who knows what else. I mean, he's a dentist, so I'm sure we're going to talk to him about that and possibly a relationship he's been in for two years

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It's now on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, guys, Chris Stranberg is on the podcast for the first time since these guys, and I'm talking about you and the producer's Ben, tried to set me up with him like four years ago. Oh, yes. Oh, man, good old days. Our dinner date. Yes, you guys made me. blush and feel awkward at all times every episode you wouldn't let it die anyway now um the last time i

saw chris which is a very sad sad fact was at my wedding uh chris at my wedding something very funny happened like if we had a reality shitly if the bachelor came and taped our wedding like this would be a really funny focal point you took yourself to the hospital the day in my wedding can you explain this story well you know i'm i'm really tough i'm good at all sports um and it's no surprise that i would get a concussion playing touch football on the beach chris okay this is good this is where we need to dive but wait a minute wait a minute maybe somebody touched me really hard you think no no nobody touched me nobody touched me i just jumped for the ball and landed on my head like you were very the guys

The guys didn't hide the fact that you were very awkward at playing football. They were like, he said that he was going to be awkward, but we didn't think it was going to be this bad. And then you jumped, you hit the back of your head, and then you ended the game with that. Like, they all had to stop. They had to stop because suddenly I didn't know how I got there. Literally, I lost the previous 12 hours of memory. 12 hours? Yeah.

I had to, I literally had to call my mom. mom. And I was like, hey, mom, so I'm fine, but how did I get here? Can you walk me through the last 12 hours? That's not a scary phone call from my mom. Hey, mom. Yeah, exactly. I'm fine. I just don't remember life. Wait, wait, now that I'm thinking about this, this was the day of our rehearsal dinner. Jared didn't play football on the day of our wedding. Yeah, okay, rehearsal dinner. Ben, you were there. Yeah, we're on the beach in Newport. And, um, uh, there is a pass thrown to Chris who jumps up in the air to grab it. It is actually, I mean, for what Chris lacks in catching ability, he makes up for in his his jumping skills. He's a very good levitation. He's a very, he has a very

good jump. So he jumps up. Well, he doesn't catch the ball, but what he does do is he falls backwards onto his back and he hits his head against the sand, which automatically, I guess, knocked Chris's memory just completely gone. He starts wandering the beach. The game, because we no longer have even sides and Chris takes himself to the hospital which came out fine nothing nothing major he was okay he showed up to the rehearsal dinner that evening he made the most memory came back memory came back he remembers the love story that ashley and jared portrayed to all of us but i would say i will say i have never seen somebody get so hurt in a touch football game never ever ever

So one of my skills, you know, I'm extra fragile, and I took that fall like a champ. Hey, I'd take a doctor over an athlete any day, and I'm pretty sure most women out there would, including your girlfriend? Including my girlfriend. Who you've been with for how long? Two years. Wow, how's it going? It's going good. COVID hasn't gotten us down.

How much time have you spent together during COVID? how much time did she and i spend together um a good amount but not all the time i'd say about half the week she's pretty busy with her new job so um yeah and then our schedules are a little bit off but we make a good amount of time how has the dental industry would you the dental field been affected by covid because when i think about going to get it cleaning now i'm like i feel pretty save a lot of places, but with my mouth open like that, I feel pretty susceptible, pretty vulnerable. It's the one place you're required not to wear a mask. Yeah. Why is that? Can't wear a mask over your mouth at the dentist. Oh, I thought like when you walked in,

like you couldn't have a mask on. No, when you sit down in the chair, that makes sense. The, I mean, but you're you're staying upright. Things are okay. You right now, as we talk to Chris, He's in his scrubs and he has a bonnet on his head. To match. Yeah. Chris, we saw recently you've been doing more and more kind of like beauty tips. And you took over Amazon's beauty week or whatever it was. Oh, cool.

I'm doing that on Friday. Yeah. So we did an Amazon live. There was a deal of the day that Waterpick had with some of their products. So I did a live stream with them. And now there's a special beauty day. So I guess, you know, your teeth are considered a beauty product. So a couple of the Waterpick products are going on sale, and I'm hosting a live stream of that.

Oh, amazing. What are some of the tips that you would give to, like, okay, if for any of our listeners who are not beauty experts, some of them probably are, but they just wonder what are some of the secret tips that taking care of your teeth. What are some of the tips that you would give? number one you have to be consistent um people will be on a good role with their teeth and then they'll kind of fall off it happens when people get stressed out things happen in life home care takes a you know back seat it feels like a low priority but staying consistent with is important um but you got to clean between your teeth um where stain develops toothbrushes often can't even though you're brushing your teeth the stain develops in the creases of your teeth between right

bad breath happens from bacteria collecting between your teeth and below your gum line. So you got to clean those spaces. And I'm sorry, but the toothbrush alone doesn't do that. And, you know, I tried for a few years working in dental practice, telling people to floss, floss, floss, using string floss. And then even the people who are good, they're not doing it right because it's very technique sensitive. So finally, I'm just like, okay, what else is there?

And you just take a jet stream of water and then you power wash, between your teeth. It's kind of like simple and makes sense, but it doesn't seem like, okay, well, is that effective? Well, you're breaking up the bacteria and you're getting in deeper than you could with the string. So you're really cleaning it out. But in addition to that, with the string, you're kind of leaving some of that debris in between your teeth. But with the water, you rinse it away. So, you know, they've done tons of studies on this. And every time, it's like twice as effective as the other way, a string floss. So I just, I'm a big believer in it.

Do you water pick before you brush then? I do. I think that's a great way to do it because the reason that we use fluoride and toothpaste is to repair the enamel. And if the in-between surfaces of your teeth are clean from having just water floss, then when you brush, the fluoride will soak into your teeth and repair the sides of your teeth. Here's my issue. I have one issue with this.

So I had a water pick for a bit, and I'd pick my teeth as often as I could. But then my mirror is covered in water pellets, and it's going everywhere, and it felt disgusting, and it was hitting my face, and I couldn't keep the water inside of my mouth. It was flying everywhere. My technique's obviously failing. How do I do this better? So two ways you can fix a problem. Number one, they make a waterproof version that you can take in the shower. Oh, that sounds fun.

Rechargeable. It's really cool. My favorite one's the cordless advanced. But another thing is break up your mouth into small sections. So don't try to rinse your whole mouth out at a time with the floss. You keep your hand, like there's normally like a power button or an on-off switch. So close your lips around the tip and then just do five teeth and then turn it off and spit. And then repeat and repeat.

So you're only getting a little bit of water in your mouth each time. If you switch to that method rather than trying to do the whole thing, you're like overwhelmed. Like, oh my gosh, my mouth is filling up with water. Just break it up into little sections overnight. It will change. You won't get the mirror anymore. I won't get on your chin or your shirt. Huge.

Well, I love the way that this has become a beauty podcast. I was going to say this was not the intention. Yeah. We're going to title this Bachelor Beauty. And I have two questions in that realm for you. one whitening toothpaste um i know that a lot of dentists like don't like don't they think that whitening toothpaste like strips the enamel yes okay so jared did some research on what the best whitening toothpaste was and it said on the internet that it was arm and hammer so he got the arm and hammer

and i was like this tastes disgusting and how in the world is this the number one for whitening because the crest in Kogate, they just brand the shit out of their whitening stuff. And I really believe it with all their little sparkles in the toothpaste. And then after a month or so, I'm like, holy crap, your teeth are almost wider than mine now. It was a significant improvement more than I've ever seen. And Chris is doing a little jig over there. Are you dancing at what I'm saying? I'm dancing.

You like that? You like what happened here? So the philosophy for whitening your teeth with the toothpaste. Two ways your teeth get yellow. There's the surface stain, the junk on top of your teeth, and then there's the internal color of your teeth. The surface stain is minimized by keeping them, you know, keeping that film, that plaque, keeping them off your teeth.

The other thing is bleaching the inside of your tooth, which is like all of those things that you see on TV or on Instagram, how do I bleach my teeth, you use hydrogen peroxide. The certain other products that you mentioned, contain really abrasive little, like almost sand. It's a hydrated silica. And that scratches your teeth surfaces to remove quote unquote like the surface stain,

but hydrated silica is really damaging to enamel. So Armandhammer actually has more sodium bicarbonate, which is baking soda, and that's what you taste. And it's the sodium, it's kind of like this weird, salty, grainy taste. That's the downside. I'm like, babe, I don't know how you brush your teeth with this. Yeah. Well, my favorite formula for taste and also for just for all around

is called Bright and Strong, and it's by Armandhammer. But the difference is that the baking soda is not abrasive to your enamel. Instead, it breaks up the plaque in a different way, almost in a chemical way. So it's not as abrasive. It sort of melts it away. But that doesn't affect your enamel at all. So that's number one, is that it removes the surface stains more gently. And and more effectively. Number two, it contains hydrogen peroxide so that day in, day out, you're doing this. It's soaking in deeper than the surface, and it's brightening up from the inside. Right. To know, thank you. I love this stuff. Number two, I notice, and I've told you this a number of times, and I will bite the bullet one day, that my teeth are really shifting on

the bottom. And my question to you is, if you had braces as a kid, is it inevitable that your teeth will shift again if you at all stop your retainer? It is almost without exception inevitable. And it's because there's a genetic adaptation where teeth are designed to shift forward. Because as we age, our teeth actually rub against each other and they get smaller. So gaps would develop between our teeth unless they were shifting forward. like everybody, you know, stay close in line. And then obviously ancient history, people lost their teeth a lot more frequently.

If you have a big missing space there, it's not ideal. But if your teeth move forward to close the gap, it tends to be better. So there's that element, which is teeth move forward. And then over time, it can increase if your bite is off. If it's not stable, then teeth will crowd more often. And also if you get gum disease, the bone support will actually degrade. And that makes teeth more movable. and then they'll tend to lean forward as well.

So unfortunately, it's as deep as, like, genetics. So you need to keep your retainer in to maintain straight teeth pretty much no matter what. There's not many things I'm great at in life, but I am really good at wearing my retainer. I wear it every night. Chris, I just want to tell you that so, like, you would feel like I'm a little bit better for human. I hope that worked. It's a genuine need. But, yes.

Ben, you always know how to sweet talk me. I'm really getting in deep here. I'm pretty good at it. Ashley, any more beauty tips? Well, no, I do have a marketing play for you, though. So if I was a publicist of a boy band, like a publicist of a boy band, I would tell them to that they all have to remain single in order to get the girls to come to the concerts, you know, because the girls need to have that fantasy of getting

with them. With you as the hot dentist opening a new office, I would have not even brought up your girlfriend and just tried to get everybody that listens to our podcast to go to your office. And then when they're there and sucked in by your talent, then they'd be like, oh, he's not single. Don't it. They see the picture. They see the picture on the desk of him and his girl smiling. Well, Chris, in this, to talk about your girlfriend the one last time, I have two big questions for you, okay?

One's going to be a softball question, and I'll wait to end it with that. The first one is how is your girlfriend's breath? my girlfriend well come on i i'm on her about brushing and flossing twice a day so she's perfect and you know i'd not accept anything different than that but fortunately she's kind of like a neat freak and health freak anyways so it didn't take long but she's got the water pick she's got the toothpaste so it's it's minty all the time you're getting all giddy talking about that. I've never seen you get giddy yeah but we started talking about your girlfriend's breath and you're squirming in your chair you're smiling big I mean you know how to get to

Chris's heart this the last question for you buddy is what uh what are your favorite characteristics about your girlfriend like what are you really like after two years what have you learned that you really appreciate about her she's just such a sweetheart I mean she cares about me so much if I'm stressed out she's there for me she's supportive and she really is encouraging i mean if you know you have self-doubt sometimes and she just like believes in me so much so i would say that that's the thing also we can talk and talk and talk forever she's always got um like something interesting to say and i feel like that for me in the past that's been uh kind of a hold-up is you just kind of run out of things to talk about but she and i

are always having some good conversation so i don't know she's just very engaging and uh she's got a big heart. Let's talk about your ex-girlfriend, Caitlin Burstow, for a second. Are you watching her on Dancing with the Stars? Oh my gosh. She did so good. She did so good. Even Lady Gaga thought she did well. I saw that. How cool. I mean, I'm so happy for Caitlin because any one of these elements in isolation would have been enough to just make everything for her year. But they're all happening together and she's actually doing well. So I know it'd be hard to have like, it would be two bachelorets in a row if she wins, right? Yeah. I know that'd be seems unprecedented. Yeah. I think she could do it. Bachelor nation's strong. They support. They love hard.

Come on. Stick together, Bachelor Nation. It's been a rough year for Bachelor Nation with COVID and having to wait for the shows like rally around Caitlin. Absolutely. I love that advice. Now, if people want to visit you, become a new patient, where should they go? To the wait list. There's going to be the longest wait list. You can go to my website, visiondental mv.com. That's mv for Marvista. Or you can go to Toothstagram or my regular Instagram page.

Also, I wanted to throw out there, starting at 4 a.m. tomorrow, I'm going to be doing a media Blitz with Waterpick. So I'm doing like 15 to 20 interviews across like the nation about water pick products going on local news shows. So they've been keeping me busy recently. Are you going to be like on the cover of Waterpick, the box? Because I feel like you should. It would be a great selling point. Maybe. You know, that's cool. I don't buy a lot of things for the box, but I'd buy that. That's a good looking box right there. Chris Ramberger, the man. We love you. you. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for sharing your beauty tips with us. And best of luck to you and the girlfriend as you move forward. Chris Tranberg. You're fantastic. Thanks. Love you guys. Hope to see you soon in person.

Hi, Chris. Love you too. Bye. Bye. Bye. Chris is always great, sweet guy. And to you listeners, we want to remind you once again to follow our Instagram page. We are tracking it. We've been very active on posting on it, which is awesome. It's, uh, on Instagram, it's almost underscore famous podcast. Go out and follow that for all of, uh, the clips from our show, some more behind the scenes, uh, footage. It's, uh, it's going to be a lot of fun for us to interact with you in a different way. But we also always love it when you email us. Continue to email us at Ben and Ashley at Iheartmedia.com. Uh, and we got an email from Maddie that we're going to respond to right now. She says, I have this burning question.

She says you two seem to have a great relationship with everyone in Bachelor Nation. Does it ever feel hard to give headlines on good friends of yours, even if they're positive headlines? Well, not positive headlines, in my opinion. Positive headlines are always easy, but these controversial headlines, especially that we've been getting over the past year, have been very awkward to talk about. And even if you're not friends with them, you've met them a few times. And I feel like what Ben always says about in-depth podcast, once you know someone, it's hard to ever, it's hard to not like them. Yeah.

So, so yeah, it's a challenge to talk about some of these topics about our friends and acquaintances. But we also hope that they respect that this is like our job and that they have chosen to be public figures who should expect to be spoken about in the media. I mean, some of my friends, if I were to do something that was off center, and I would expect him to talk about it, I'd have no problem with that. It wouldn't be fun, right? It's not ideal, but that's the world that we live in. I will say this, though, before, like, especially right now, like Colton and Cassie are as a scenario we can talk about what's going on right now. Ashley and I do spend time off of the podcast talking about each other's emotions and feelings and trying to get to a place. that's not unhealthy, I guess, would like at least a place that's been thought through and not speaking from reaction, but speaking from, hey, what's being reported? What are people saying? How do you feel about this? How do I feel about it? And then we can come on here and have a little bit of a wiser conversation that still touches everything that we're feeling and thinking. It just not might not be so reactionary because I think reaction would get us into trouble and oftentimes have us saying

things that just aren't true. That just becomes more difficult because it takes more time. But it's not fun. And it's all, I mean, let's just be honest with everything here. Like, you all are fans of the, of the Bachelor and The Bachelorette. It's not fun for you either to hear these headlines. Like, it's not like you're celebrating the fact that there's trauma, there's drama and trauma and issues going on in the lives of these people who you've watched and rooted for and celebrated. Like, it's hard for everybody involved, including the people. But we have, the unique position that we need to talk about it because it is what we signed up for it is what we've agreed to do it's not fun though and we hope that all these people know that if they do

want a platform to talk about it that we are giving it to them here too so we never want to just talk about them we like to talk with them if they feel comfortable 100% well actually it's been another week of the almost famous podcast and it has uh you you go heal that face of years is that the right Can I say healing it? Okay. Yeah. It's healing. And I also want to thank everybody who wrote on our message boards on Facebook. The almost famous message boards is a really fun place for us to go and look to for feedback on the podcast. And you guys have given us some good feedback there and or helpful feedback. And I also just want to let you know that all of those suggestions that you guys had for

in-depth podcasts are definitely being considered. I'm thinking you guys, Emily Maynard, she hasn't responded to us. We really, really want her to come on so if you can do anything to push, that we'd love that. Not push too hard or be rude, but, you know, like a loving push. And then I think Corinne is a great idea for an in-depth too. So keep that feedback coming. We love you so much. And for now, Ben, you've got to sign off first because that's how we do it. Yeah, that's right. Well, hey, thank you all. Thank you, Ashley. And with that, that's another week. I've been Ben. I've been Ashley.

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