The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor Breaking News: Colton Underwood

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

Lance Bass joins Ben & Ashley for a candid conversation about Colton Underwood and his recent announcement that he’s gay.  Lance shares his story of coming out and how Colton’s journey could help the next generation. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, this year? Or, like, in general. Are people not wait to give their news like on a Sunday night so that Monday we can just roll right into it? All right. So let's talk about it. Colton came out as gay on Good Morning America yesterday in a interview with Robin Roberts. And I mean, I think both of us are really happy that he's able to live his true self. Like he's able to just come to, you know, the realization of who he really is and live a free, happy life.

it's it's obviously been something that's really bogged down on his heart for a while yeah it is i mean it's it's good to see him have this moment right but yeah at the same time for as happy as we are that colton gets to uh now be his his most true self there is still the situation with cassie that kind of has came up in the headlines as this has been announced so today we're going to bring on uh one of our favorite people we've traveled to los Vegas with him. Lance Bass is going to be on the podcast today. We're going to talk through all of this stuff.

Not only the announcement where Colton Underwood has came out as gay, but also what it means for the situation with Cassie, how does Colton move forward? There's a rumored show on Netflix that is being filmed right now. There's a lot going on. We're going to break it down here and just talk about what we know. And who could do it better than Lance Bass, who was honestly in a very similar situation. you know he was thought he was a guy that all these girls wanted who had so much attention on him being a big boy bander versus being the bachelor i think that's quite similar they both came out around the certain the same age they both grew up in conservative christian

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The executive producers of The Bachelor franchise have issued the following statement regarding Colton Underwoods, The Bachelor Season 23, interview on Good Morning America this morning. Ashley, what's the statement? Their statement reads, we are so inspired by Colton Underwood's courage to embrace and pursue his authentic self. As firm believers in the power of love, we celebrate Colton's journey in the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer intersect and asexual plus community every step of the way.

Bachelor Nation rallies around Colton Underwood after he comes out as gay. So proud of you. This is according to Us Weekly. So Blake says, I texted him. I'm sure I'll hear from him in the next couple days so I can let him know what I think and how proud I am of him. I can't imagine. It's impossible for me to imagine what he went through. I'm proud of him for being true to who he is. I hope that he's able to give a lot of other people courage to do the same, proud of my guy at Colton Underwood.

And Hannah Godwin also said, I support Colton for having the courage to be finally able to live his life authentically. Nobody should have to hide from who they really are. I always wish Colton the very best and hoping that he has found peace. Hannah, of course, was his second third runner-up, and Tasia was in that group as well. And Tasia says, through her rep, that she's very happy that Colton is now able to live his life openly without fear of sharing who he is. Former Bachelor star Colton Underwood comes out as gay. This is according to Good Morning America.

Yes. Okay. So here are some of the quotes from the interview. he said, I ran for myself for a long time. I hated myself for a long time. I am gay and I came to terms with that earlier this year and I've been processing it. And the next step in all of this

is sort of letting people know. I'm still nervous, but it's been a journey for sure. He also says, Robin Roberts, who is also openly gay, so that she saw the joy and saw the relief in Colton before and after the interview. She said that he was like all tense and, of course, very nervous before the interview.

but then afterward it just seemed like a you know a weight was lifted he said that he's going through you know a very emotional time but in a very good happy positive way he says it's the happiest and healthiest he's ever been and there was there was a time where he said it was a wake-up call he said he would have rather died than said that he was gay he said that there was a moment when he was living in l.A when he woke up and he didn't think he was going to wake up because he didn't have the intentions of waking up and he did and that was a moment where he knew he had to take back control of his life well there is obviously the celebration i think for for most people i'm not going to say everybody i'm sure there's some people out there not feeling this way um on colton underwood's

announcement there's a celebration there's some peace um there's a lot of courage that it took for colton to do this uh this is starting a whole new journey that you know we all hope It lifts a burden from him. However, as many people have stated, and we've got a lot of messages, there's a lot of headlines, a lot of opinions about this. We have to talk about it.

You still have the Cassie Randolph situation still looming, right? There's, you know, there was the restraining order placed on Colton by Cassie. That was then dropped over a series of a few months. And now, you know, Colton has came back into the public, I guess, because he kind of, you know, went away for a bit with this announcement. And so this headline reads, Cole Nunderb publicly apologizes to Cassie Randolph after coming out as gay. The quote is,

I made a lot of bad choices, this according to Us Weekly. He said, I got into a place with my personal life that was dark and bad. And I can list a bunch of things, but they'd all be excuses. I'd like to say I'm sorry for how things ended. I messed up. I made a lot of bad choices.

I loved everything about her. and it's hard for me to articulate exactly what my emotions were going through that relationship with her because obviously I had an internal fight going on. He says, I would just say that I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart. I'm sorry for any pain and emotional stress that I caused. I wish it that it wouldn't have happened the way it did. I wish that I had been courageous enough to fix myself before I broke anyone else. It's interesting how much has happened with Colton since his memoir came out a year ago.

at that point he was still with Cassie there was no restraining order and no harassment charges he hadn't come out as gay um and he talks about you know so i'm just wondering is he going to come out with like a whole fresh book because it's funny because the book was called the first time finding myself and looking for love on reality tv and now he's kind of admitting that he hadn't found himself at that point when the book came out i know that there was rumors that he was going to add chapters to it but it really makes me wonder if he's just going to, like, completely write another book. Well, yeah, you know, hey, Colton, for everything that people are celebrating about, Colton always has loved to take advantage of the opportunity.

Like, I don't think anybody's going to say that's not true. And so if there's a book written, not a surprise, maybe it's needed. Maybe it can be a good next step for him. You know, it gets really difficult now. I think when it comes to the situation with Cassie, after the restraining order was dropped, we haven't heard a lot about it from either of them. So there's not, since we've talked about it before,

you know, we've talked about it in a few episodes in the past. We don't have a lot of new news and updates on it. There's not a lot of new information. Neither of them have really spoken their opinion. The only thing we have is Colton's now announcement, because this is the first time he's kind of came back to public, apologizing to Cassie for the pain. that he caused now now cassie is saying well she's not saying it somebody is saying it for her

that she's still processing this announcement she was not made aware that this was going to be coming out and so i think over the next few weeks this will be something that we cover we have to talk about it we'll have to see we know what her response is give her time and the space to process, give her the space that she will need to process. You know, but we can't just act like this didn't happen a few months ago, right? It did. But it also, I mean, and this is my opinion, and please tell me if anybody out there disagrees, but we can still celebrate the fact that Colton had the courage to come out and tell the world that he's gay. I think we can still, I think we can still feel good about that at the same time not being okay with what happened.

happened a few months ago. Precisely. Exactly. We can feel multiple things at once. Because personally, like, I struggled with that. I did yesterday. As this came out, as I watched the interview, as, you know, as you see somebody that you know sit on national television and announce something that you know he had been holding on for

a while, you know, that wasn't easy for him to do. So, you know, I personally had the emotion where I was like, I'm really happy for this moment. But I'm still not okay with what happened in the past. Exactly. How do you balance and navigate that tension? And I personally don't know yet how I can battle me. But this isn't about me.

You know, I'm just sitting here as a fan or a viewer. Like this isn't about me at all. We just have to continue. I feel like we just continue to feel a little bit conflicted in this while like we wait for Cassie to say something. Now that she needs to even say something. It's really like that's on her life anymore. She really doesn't have to. She doesn't want to.

True. Yeah. But there is a tension there. However, for the sake of this podcast, we're going to cover this story that's a massive and Bachelor Nation. It's the first Bachelor who has now came out as gay. This is a story that we have to talk about. That's what we're here today. And that's what we're going to bring on somebody who can really help navigate this with us is Lance Bass.

And I think, honestly, can speak a lot of wisdom and truth into this new season of life that Colton is walking into. All right. Let's get Lance in. Well, hello, guys. Hey, Lance. How are you? Good. How are you?

Bass, man, it's good to talk to you again. It's been a bit. It was Las Vegas when I was last able to hang out with you. And I think Ashley was probably the last able to hang out with you. Oh, no, no. Lance and I have spilled him many a time since. Oh, yes. We have a very intimate relationship.

Oh, that's fantastic. I'm very proud. Well, Lance, you're obviously here based on the announcement that Colton Underwood made yesterday. There is, and I'm going to walk through this with you, I really hope that you can help navigate this and share a lot of wisdom because you've been through this season. But there's these moments in reality television that just like are in a sense like sacred or they transcend the reality television world. This is one of those yesterday. No matter, you know, what you think of, of Colton, you've got to celebrate this

moment for him, right? Because you know how big of a step this was. Well, you know, I do feel like the official gay guide to people coming out. Um, it's, uh, you know, in this business, you meet tons of people that are still in the closet. And there's several major actors and musicians out there that still have not been able to come out publicly because they fear many things. They fear what their family is going to think. They, you know, their friends. Um, uh, it's just everyone's coming out is a, is their own story. Right. Uh, and I'm just glad that Colton could tell his story. You know, I can, I can really relate to his experience because, Because in a way, you know, I was kind of like in a batch nation type situation where, you know, 90% of my fans were women and they all thought I was straight. And I made my money off of women, right? And and singing about love and using, you know, that market. So, you know, me coming out, it was, it was scary because I'm like, well, crap. Now everyone's, you know, going to see me as a liar, you know, and why did I do this to them? So you start, I don't know, you start telling yourself all these, just the word. case possible scenarios of everything, you know, even my family, you know, I'm from Mississippi. So I was like, crap, like, what's, what's my family going to think? How is, how is my little small

town going to treat my family when I come out? So, you know, there's, there's a lot of, a lot of things going through your mind before you're able to publicly, you know, admit that, yes, I am gay. And on the flip side of that also is, you know, this gay community is very, you know, diverse, but we can also be very fickle, you know, he's definitely going to get a lot of backlash from the community at first, not the majority, but there is a small percentage of the community that's just going to not like the fact that he came out this way, that he's using, this is, you know, monetizing the experience. So, I mean, you're going to get that. And they don't think that he deserves this attention.

And one of those reasons is, and this is what I experienced when I came out, you don't know, when you first come out, most people, they have no clue about the LGBT community. They don't know what the issues are. They have no idea because they've been so separated from that on purpose. So when someone comes out as a public figure, so many people immediately go to like, screw that, it's too late. You know, it's like they don't, they don't like to.

support it because they don't feel like you you know what you're talking about yet. But I don't think Colton is kind of leading that charge of trying to be the spokesperson for the LGBT community. I see him really, you know, taking the responsibility of, you know, learning about the community, sharing his story with this, you know, documentary. And a lot of people are like, great, this is all for the money. He's doing a documentary. Well, yeah, that could be. But I mean, for me, seeing a documentary like that is only going to help the community because people will, you know, every story that you see on television or in a film of a gay, you know, character, everyone, you know, a different person can relate to that. And we haven't had too many representations of,

you know, a gay person on television that came from this world, you know, of this, you know, crazy sports world where you had to hide it. And I mean, I'm just assuming that one of the reasons that he couldn't come out was because of his family and you know his dad he calls coach so i mean i've i've seen that you know over and over and over again i've heard you know that story and so many people can relate to that of you know keeping it such a secret for so long because of your dad you know it's it's i think the number one reason people stay in the closet is because they're parents yeah yesterday it was uh said that his dad actually was there for the good morning america interview and stood beside him which i think's a special moment i just want to touch on

something you said earlier, there's so much you just covered that I'd love to dig into because quite honestly, I don't know a lot about the community. And I would love to, you know, to learn more. And it feels like this year, I don't know, it has just been a year of learning about so many things that I've been ignorant to or just not focused on. And so I'm really glad that we could take this moment. But you made a comment right at the beginning. You said, you feel like you're the gay guide in these situations. Is that something that bothers you personally? Is that something that you desist like and i say this and i'm going to say something here and it could come off colton made an announcement on national television yesterday one of the first things i thought was

is he ready for this step like he might not like he is going to be a face now for this community you are as you self-admitted like the gay guide in these situations is that a burden that feels really heavy is that something you enjoy are you is he ready for like can you walk me through that? No, I mean, I don't find it a burden at all. You know, I, I wish I would have had someone to be able to talk to when I first came out or right before I, you know, came out. It would have helped explain a lot of things to me. It would have helped me say the right things, the right way, because everyone is going to be judging you so much, you know, in this moment, right when you, you know, come out. I remember when I've, and in my situation, and I don't know

if this was his situation too, but, um, you know, I was outed. Like I, I didn't have a choice. Like, I had to come out or they were going to write the story. So I was kind of like really just pushed out of the closet. Um, so I didn't really have the time to find gay allies and, you know, talk, you know, get to know the community before I came out. And so, you know, you'd show up at HRC events, which I've done before, you know, as a quote unquote straight guy. Uh, but this time, you know, I'll go up on stage and I make a speech and, you know, two tables get up, flip me off and leave. You know, so it's just like, holy crap, that was my, that was my introduction to the gay

community, that event. Like, well, this is going to be a very long road. What is HRC? Just saw it. Oh, the human rights campaign. Yeah, it's a really great organization. But, you know, but I understand where they're coming from. I get it.

It's not the way I would do it and try to educate people. But, you know, there's a lot of hard feelings for especially the older gay community because of what they had to go through. I mean, the older generation of gays, they, I mean, they went through some, they, I mean, majority of their friends died from the AIDS pandemic, and they just saw a lot of death and all the fighting they had to do just to get equal rights. I mean, it was, it's a lot harder than it is today. And I think a lot of that generation looks at us young.

youngans, and especially even Colton, the young, young ones, that they don't, they don't understand where the community came from and that they're not willing to understand it. But, you know, but you have to give him a chance. Like, he just came out. Let's see what he does with it. You were 27 when you came out and you were forced out. What took you so long? many reasons i mean the number one was in sync uh you know as long as i was in the group i didn't want to even talk about it mention it uh you know act on it because you know it was so ingrained in me that if anyone found out i was gay in sync would be over done and now i've got you know my four best friends you know careers in my hands that i just completely just

trashed. So, I mean, that was the number one. I just didn't want to hurt, you know, my group. And then, you know, the other, the next, you know, problem I had was being where I'm from in Mississippi. You know, you grow up, you know, I grew up in the church, going to church three times a week, and, you know, you're taught that gay people are going to hell and they're pedophiles. And it's just you have such a bad feeling.

about gay people, you know, and when that's instilled in you at such a young age, you think that's the truth. I mean, why wouldn't it be the truth? The adults were telling you this. Your preacher's telling you this, though they're not lying to me, you know? So growing up in an environment like that really does keep you in the closet because you just, you don't know what hate you're going to receive. When you did come out, like, did you even feel any of the hate that you,

expected to receive it was way less than i thought i mean of course i saw you know the bigots go after me uh and i mean even today i mean gosh i'm all going social media and i you know i still get called fat like every day of my life so that's just part of it but i also got called fat when i was in sync the whole time too so it's something that i've been used to of just everyone assuming i'm gay right um but i was very surprised because when i came out it was it was a different time it really was 13 years ago. Yeah, and, you know, being gay was still just a crazy hard thing to be, and especially in entertainment.

Like, no one, no one could be gay and on radio. You know, no one could have their own show or on film, you know, when you're gay. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it was a crazy time. And I thought that, wow, everyone is going to hate me. Everyone's going to hate in sync. Everyone's going to make fun of me and be like, of course, the voyabander's gay. Well, tell me something. didn't know like just really just take the negative with it but i mean i would say 90% was so positive

and it was the first time i saw you know in my lifetime it was the first time i saw such a crazy positive reaction to someone coming out because we all saw what happened to ellen and other people like her um and you know watching the story of someone like ellen keeps people in the closet even more they're like crap so you told you that's what happened was you to come out what I'm just interested because, you know, Colton obviously mentioned it. You know, he grew up in a Catholic home.

You know, the church played a big role. And I won't go to detail. I was able to talk to him a little bit about this yesterday. This is something that hurts my soul in the deepest of ways that he would feel, you know, that he couldn't be his truest, most authentic self because of the church. church. Where does your faith lie today? And have you found that community within, you know,

the faith world that does support you? Yeah. You know, my faith, you know, evolves a lot. You know, in my life now, I'm, I wouldn't say that, I mean, I don't believe in organized religion. To me, I think, I mean, I used to, but in recent years, I've realized that organized religion is has just been used for hate and it's basically organized hate. And I just think that's horrible. And you saw that in the last four years, you know, when we had, you know, Trump in the office and, you know, a lot of the evangelical Christians were in control of this country for four years.

And we saw the hatred come out in the last four years. And it's just, you know, I think that's horrible. You know, when I grew up in church, it was all about, you know, giving back to others and loving people. And it was really, I grew up, you know, just the teachings of Jesus Christ, which to me today, Jesus Christ has the best message. I mean, it's the same thing with Buddha also. You know, Jesus didn't, you know, Jesus wasn't a Christian.

He was Jewish. But his message was exactly what I like to, you know, model my morals after. because everything that has been written about what he has said or done has been all about love and acceptance and exactly how I believe in the world and then to see my same churches that taught me that

use those words to turn them into hating me I just saw the evilness of it I saw the corruption and so no I don't believe in organized religion as much as as i did i mean i'm sure there's some great churches out there there's some great churches in la that are very accepting of gay people and i have lots of gay christian friends um but i i can never be a part of that anymore just because it's it's just gotten too corrupt

thanks for sharing that colton talked about like praying to god that he wouldn't be gay and like praying that he he said when he got the bachelor role that he thanked god for me making him straight and allowing him to find his wife and have kids. Did you go through a phase like this? Everyone I know did. I mean, since I probably was eight years old, I prayed every night that I would wake up straight, every single night for years,

which really messes with a little kid's mind. I mean, no little kids should have to, you know, go through that. So your whole life, you're fooling yourself into thinking, no, I, you know, I just, if I don't act on it, it's fine, I'll be able to marry a girl, we'll have a family, so I totally can relate to why Colton felt great. You know, this was, God gave me this gift of being a bachelor. This means, you know, that I can be straight, you know, and I'll be able to meet a girl, I have family, and as long as I don't act on this, you know, gay feelings, it's fine because that's what the church teaches also is, you know, it's fine being gay. I mean, being gay is acceptable, great. You just can't act on it because everyone's sins just don't act on it and ask for forgiveness. Did you ever feel like that within sync?

You were like, oh, I was given all these girls to choose from. Yes, it was a God's little joke to put me in a group with 90% female audience. I mean, it kept me safe, that's sure, for sure. But yeah, I mean, it's, it was funny that that was the path that my life went. but I mean there was a reason that it happened and hopefully you know I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing on this planet because of it you dated women too like Danielle Fisiel it was like kind of you know it's like a fling right you took her to prom and stuff but no Danielle yeah we dated for like two years oh my goodness yeah she was my long time girlfriend yeah I remember being so jealous

of her I was like not only she Depanga but she's dating Lance I know and then my thing it was like look, if I can't, if I can't, you know, be attracted to Danielle or, you know, fall in love with her the way, because I thought I was in love, but I was also a teenager. So I felt, you know, I thought that's what love was. But of course, once I felt true love, I'm like, oh, that's, that's what that feeling is. But I knew if I couldn't find that true love with Danielle, there's no way I could find it with any other girl. She was just the perfect, perfect person well Lance I know you're you're really busy and I and we really appreciate you coming on we just have uh I mean I personally only have a few more questions for you um one is

something you touched on um as you kind of started this out you know there is in the last day it's been a mix of emotions for a lot of the fans of the bachelor and this isn't about them but it is the the things that colton is hearing right you have a few months ago you have a restraining order placed on him by Cassie following their breakup. And then the news got dropped yesterday, and I believe TMZ was the ones to release it, saying that there is a Netflix documentary currently being filmed that will come out soon about this journey for Colton. And the response, you know, is mixed for him. You know, you have the celebration of him having the courage to come out. And then you have the following of the people saying, hey, Colton, we support

that. But you're monetizing. this this feels weird to us what if if you could speak into that maybe trying to understand his perspective maybe assuming a few things is is it wrong to be doing a documentary does it feel um like he is monetizing on a situation that is very personal and then how do you walk through the criticism while at the same time celebrating the fact that you're starting this whole new journey in life yeah well man of course he's monetizing you know the situation but I don't, I don't think Colton, you know, came up with this plan, was like, all right, let's call Netflix and see if, you know, I'm going to come out, you know, him coming out was his probably is his only, you know, thing that's on his mind right now. But when people come to you, your manager or whatever, and they say, look, you know, we know you're coming out.

We would love to document this because it would help everyone and it would be for the greater good, like I was saying before, you know, to see just any kind of representation of a gay person on television. is good um i think the community you know looks at this is you know an opportunistic uh grab of money um but you know they're you know they're gonna they're gonna think that because also the community is upset with great they're like another you know um straight adjacent buff white guy uh you know we're gonna we're gonna watch his coming out story what about like you know the black community or anyone of color or any or feminine or you know all the other flavors of the rainbow um i think they're like well that doesn't really represent you know our our real community you know it's it's a pretty thing to look at but it's not you know the reality of the community lads uh you okay so when you came

out had you had a relationship with a man before because colton admitted yesterday that he has yet to have an emotional relationship with a man. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see how that story progresses. You might just be a little too embarrassed to admit it right now. But no, when I came out, I was on boyfriend number three. So I had already been out to my friends, obviously, in three relationships. So my core people knew.

I just didn't think people cared until years later, you know, when the magazines started calling saying look we know you're gay we're writing the story with or without you or what do you want to do so then that's when i decided okay well then i need to publicly i guess announce that i'm gay man that's got to be it's got to be a whirlwind um if colton listens to this who knows if he will or not um but if anybody out there is is listening to this in a similar situation um as as you were in and as colton uh has just entered into what would your advice be as you navigate this journey? Yeah, listen, that's all you need to do right now

is just listen to the community, listen to everyone around you, you know, educate yourself, and then, you know, you'll naturally find where you belong in this community. But the best thing to do right now is, you know, sit back, listen, and learn. Well, Lance, thank you so much for joining us.

You're the greatest. You know how I feel about you. Well, I love you guys. Thanks a lot. I know, hey, you know what? I know you self-admitted it. You're the gay guy in these situations, and you've been a good guide for us.

Thanks for coming on. Thanks for giving up your time. Have a great lunch today. Enjoy it. And we hope to see you soon. All right. Uncle Lance is here to deliver, guys. Bye, Lance.

All right. Talk you later. Well, Ashley, You know, we're walking into, you're obviously friends with Lance, I've been able to be around Lance. This is, this is a shocking turn of events in Bachelor Nation. This is a big story for a lot of reasons. This is the first time that a Bachelor has came out as gay. And now, I think, as Lance just said, my job is somebody that is self-admittedly very ignorant in these situations.

I have not been able to be surrounded in my life by a lot of people who have came out and it's I think maybe it is that we all need to listen that we all need to learn that we all need to through all these stages of the last year is just continue to stay open to what is going on around us what are people saying and where are people hurting we have a few more headlines

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the headline reads this, Colton Underwood never allowed himself to have an emotional connection with a man. I want that more than anything, this according to us weekly. He says he hasn't found a spark with a male partner yet. He's never allowed himself to. He said, it's never been sort of in my cards to let myself get there, and I want more than anything to get there.

He says that he's looking for somebody who can push him and challenge him in all great ways. He says he's ran from himself for a long time. He said he's hated himself for a long time and this is where he is now. In addition to that, we talked about this upcoming Netflix series

that will be coming out pretty soon. This is confirmed now. There is a Netflix series that is being filmed. This was confirmed. confirmed by TMZ, and the headline reads this. Colton Underwood reality TV star again. Netflix series about coming out.

This again, according to TMZ. So the cameras have apparently been following him throughout this week. Netflix has declined to comment on the project, though, so it's not confirmed. And this is according to variety. This is like the ultimate source for entertainment news. They say from what the rumors are is that the 11, Olympian Gus Kenworthy will appear in the series acting as a guide of sorts for for Colton as he goes through this journey.

No word on when the series will launch. And again, no real official announcement of it either. But it's very, very much rumored. So I guess I misspoke. It's not fully confirmed, but it's very much rumored. It's probably the best way to say it. Yes. Like strongly rumored to the point where like there's no way it's not happening.

Okay. Fair enough. Well, Ashley Oh wait, I just got a text from Lance He said, I think it's finally time For the gay bachelor spin-off And I'll take the host role Didn't he

Didn't Lance host a show That was attempting to do Like a gay bachelor? He did. It was on a cable network I feel like it was like TBS or something But it's interesting That that comes up now

Because you remember the headline the other day Rob Mills was saying that they are having some deal with Hulu and they're looking for more bachelor spinoffs. This could be the time. Interesting. It's interesting. Well, hey, Ashley, we jumped on here today to cover this story, to cover the announcement yesterday.

Glad we could give up the time. Really thankful for Lance Bass to help jump on here and be our gig guide as he told us. it is an episode. We'll continue to talk about this story. I'm sure this is not going away. We'll continue to cover everything surrounding this story in the next couple weeks and months.

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