The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor Countdown Day 6: Bob Guiney

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

Oprah Winfrey is the queen of giving out good advice, so when Bob Guiney had the opportunity to call for some in regards to being "The Bachelor," it was kinda a no-brainer! He's joining Ben & Ashley to discuss the details of the reach out, why he was late for one of his son's births, and what his current wife really thinks about him working with his ex. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks, guys. I love you both very much, too. I'm really happy to be here. But sometimes I still get starstruck by you because you are one of, like, you are like the original bachelor that people remember. You're the first bachelor that people remember. And thank you for being part of our bachelor series leading up to the premiere of grant season. You are amongst a number of bachelors that we are revisiting with. Thank you. No, that's so sweet of you to say, Ashley, because you're like a historian of this whole thing.

I love you. You know everything. Our resident expert is what I call it. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I'm going to be honest. Don't know your season. Well, you were probably still in diapers.

I was a freshman in high school when your season was on. Your season was 2003. Yeah. Yeah, I was right after Trista's season. And yeah, it was a long time ago for you. So I'm sure. And my mom was a little low brow on the Bachelor franchise at that point. So sometimes I would sneak it in my room. Just like have an episode on the background on my little purple TV. Oh my gosh. I love it. I love it. Isn't it weird? I was in eighth grade when Bob was the Bachelor. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. It's so strange because I feel like, I mean, Ben, I feel like you're one of my favorite human beings alive, period, not even from this franchise. But I feel like you and I are just like when we hang out, I feel like we're the same age. You know, it's crazy. I really don't feel like, you guys don't feel like you have a big age gap. No, but then, we sure do.

It's because Bob is so immature and Ben is so mature. Exactly. There you go. That's really, honestly, that is it. No, it's interesting as we get older. Some of my best friends in the world are, you know, in their later 40s and 50s now. you just kind of you know life kind of comes together once kids come into play and once the only thing you can do you know athletically is golf bob i'm going to shower you with compliments throughout this show oh boy and i hope you give us some headlines so that's the only rule you have and i'll

shower you with compliments the rest of time so and i mean this compliment because i was talking about it um a couple days ago uh and i won't mention with who but it's another lead uh on this Okay. And they were talking about career choices. Like what, if you've been, have any advice for what this looks like post show or during show or whatever, like, how would you have navigated differently? How did you feel like you did it well, et cetera? So we were talking through this and I said, and I said this blanket comment without thinking through it first. And then I stopped myself to think through it. I said this. I said, you know, if you look at the history of the leads on the show, the women traditionally do really well, like the Bachelorette to do really well post show in entertainment or in, you know, influencing now would be a way to say that or, you know, keeping some type of revenue stream going. I said, the bachelors, some have caught fire, but for the most part, it's kind of this strategic switch from either keeping the career you had before or enhancing that career a little bit, using this whole platform for a few years, and then really launching off into like

whatever season's next for you outside of entertainment. I said you don't have, I said you don't have many representatives that have made it in entertainment post show. And then I stopped. I said, actually,

I would say that Bob Guinea has. I mean, you, 2003, it was 22 years ago. Yeah. You're still on the almost famous OG. So you're still talking and people still want to listen to you for a living. And in addition to that,

you obviously have a career that you, you know, put time into but you were on serious radio uh you obviously a musician we did the uh man panel on the today show together for i think two and a half years you did it long time i did yeah 10 years but you um you have made a career post show so i want to start this whole thing by we'll talk about the bachelor and your time there and that's great but how do you think you made that happen what what what steps did you take or how did this kind of fall into your lap to where that was such a prevalent use of your time after show well thanks first of all thanks for saying that

i mean it's interesting i would say uh i would say probably jesse has probably done you know some of the more uh you know high end uh you have examples entertainment yeah yeah but uh was it matt stork is it yeah oh Travis stork yeah which oddly enough i'll never forget right before, so I got a call from a producer, and this is, and you'll appreciate this. This is the highs and the lows, the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat of the entertainment world for a bachelor guy. I am on the set, so I was, one of my favorite jobs I did in entertainment was hosting the C&M music festival. So I would go down, I'd be the guy that would basically be like, welcome back, you know, think that was, you know, Rascal Flats, you know, next up,

Keith Urban, the crowd would go crazy. And I was like, this is the coolest job ever. And I did it for seven years. And in the middle of it, it was on CMT. It was before it jumped over to being full time on ABC. But I'll never forget, I get a call from these producers from something. And they're like, you know, we want you to host one of our shows on CMT. And they're like, we're going to plug and play you right into this companion show for our number one hit show.

And their number one hit show at the time was called Trick My Truck. And I'm like, oh, okay. And it's like, yeah, it's almost like a make. pimp my ride for semi-trucks. I'm like, oh, okay, I don't really know anything about that. I'm like, no, no, no, that's what we want you for. We're doing a, like, a spinoff show. It's called Trick My Trucker.

And we're just going to plug you into it. We're going to plug you into it right now. I'm like, what? And it was, I don't have a clue why I said yes to it, but I did. And in saying yes to it, I'm like, okay. And it was basically like a makeover show for truck drivers. And I'm like the host. Yeah, it was fun.

still sort of out of my realm, right? But I was doing like a bunch of home makeover style stuff like back then for HGTV and all that kind of stuff. So I guess in a weird way, maybe it fit. And while I'm doing it, I get a phone call from a producer friend of mine. And he's like, hey, man, got this great idea for a show. And he's telling me the show. And I'm like, it's about doctors. And we're going to, you know, we're going to tell people how to solve, you know, ailments.

And I'm like, why is this guy calling me? I'm not a doctor. And he goes, do you know how I can get a hold of Travis Stork? I really. And I'm like, what? Wait, what? And I will never forget it because I was like, yeah, I can connect the dots and help. And in that moment, I'm realizing the end of my career and the launching pad for Dr. Travis Stork's career. But, you know, I'm on a set of a, you know, truck driver makeover show and some weird, you know,

and some weird truck stop and like, I don't even know. And I'm like, what is going on with my life? I think it's a fun show, too. It was definitely coming off of queer eye. Yeah, probably. Yeah, they were just finding different ways to spin it, you know. And, but yeah, you know, it was kind of interesting after the Bachelorette, which, you know, my brother-in-law, and I've told you this story many times, Ben, and I think Ashley probably knows it too, but I didn't submit myself to be on any of it. And so, and I actually thought it was a joke when they were calling me because I was crutching around my office after one of my many, you know, ailments. And I would never been heavier. And they're calling me for this show that I didn't submit myself for. And it's Lacey Pemberton with this scratchy voice. And I think it's a guy messing with me sounding like a woman. And I'm like, Like, okay, all right. So I'd be like, oh, yeah, boy meets girl every day in Detroit and in front of a million viewers, you know, and they're like, well, why don't you send in a demo tape? I'm like, not going to be the fat guy in your blooper reel, but thanks.

I'm hanging up. I'm thinking it's like, I'm going to crutch around and everyone's going to be laughing. No one's laughing. I'm like, what the hell? I know that was funny. And my brother-in-law said it best. He was like, if I would have tried to make any of it happen, I would have looked like a complete idiot, you know? But instead, I stepped in a pile of dog poop and pulled a $100 bill off my shoe.

You know, he's like, it just sort of was one of those times. in your life. And the TV thing kind of came as a result of that too. I went on Trista's season of The Bachelorette and everybody there is ripped, you know, and I'm like in the worst shape of my life. And I would normally be one of those guys who maybe isn't ripped, but at least would have been in a moderately decent shape. And I'm like, oh, I'm clearly going home pretty soon here, you know, so I'm just going to have fun. And I had a blast and just kept sticking around, you know, and then, you know, and Trista and I are still friends of this day, obviously. And But it was one of those things.

And the Bachelor kind of came, you know, Oprah thought I was funny, made me her man on the street. Next thing you know, I'm hosting all these segments for Oprah. And she's like, this is where you belong, you know. And then they call me to do The Bachelor. I'm like, I don't think I want to do it. I call Oprah. Oprah kind of talks.

Wait. What? Yeah, I reached out to it. Oprah for advice on becoming the Bachelor. Yeah, I reached out to her executive assistant who connected us. And one day my phone rings back. I'm like, I'm like, I know this is a weird request, but could Oprah, I need to talk to Oprah. I want to, you know, because she was the only only person I knew that was.

We've all said that in our lives is I need to talk to Oprah. But at this point, I've done her show like 10 times, you know, I'm cooking with their chef. I'm doing all this cool stuff. Like they get firefighters in Chicago and then they bring me in. And I'm like with a firefighter. I mean, everything, you know, it was just, she just thought it was funny and gave me a, a platform to be an idiot. You got a phone call. So I get a phone call.

And tell us what she said. Yeah. legitimately said, I was like, I'm struggling that they're asking me to be the bachelor guy, and I just don't think I'm the right guy for it. And she's like, she was so, I mean, she basically was the reason why they were calling me, right? She's like, I want Bob to be the next bachelor. That was really all it took. But I was like, I just don't think I'm the right guy for it. You know, I'm not really doing anything memorable in my life. And I just came off at Trista's season. That was a lot of fun. I'm the lovable loser. And everywhere I go, people are like,

you should have been the guy. You know, I'm like, thanks. they needless to say they edited me nicely and um i was kind of just like i don't think i'm i just don't think i'm that guy and she's like oh my god that's why you are that guy she's like because you don't think you're that guy and she's like just be you and be true to who you are and it'll be the greatest season they've ever had and she's like you know you've got to do this and and she really kind of made me i guess feel like um i could do it you know and so i was like okay what the heck i'm going to give it a shot you know and and i just had to be open to the fact that could find love in that circumstance. And so that was kind of it. You know, I went ahead with

it. And in the entertainment world, as I know, it was a very long way of getting to the answer of Ben's question, but it kind of was much the same. Like after the bachelor, they'd call me, they go, hey, do you want to do this? I'm like, yeah, why not? That sounds like fun. It wasn't like I had my design on anything, you know? And thankfully, I never fully quit my day job, which is always my advice to any of the new bachelor guys. I'm like, look, you're not Ben Affleck, man. stay in your lane, right? And be you and have fun. But, you know, it's going to be really tough 25 years from now when you're going back to your very first job interview because you haven't done anything relevant other than, you know, celebrity bull riding in the last 10 years. It's

going to be really tough to get a job. So don't quit what you do. Like stay somehow with a business acumen and don't think that, you know, selling tooth whitening kits on Instagram is going to be a really great career move for you in the long run. because it's not, you know. And that's always been kind of my mindset. I think it's the best advice. I've heard you give that advice. I think you maybe gave that advice to me. And it was something I didn't do for two more years. I kept selling software, which was great. But then it led into this and then it led into the freedom to create some other things. But I think it's the best advice you can give a lead is you're going to feel like king of the world and money's going to flow

into your bank account faster than you ever thought it would. But it also stops faster than you Yeah, yeah, sure it does. It's a humbling experience, you know. When do you think that changed for you? Like, when do you think that switch happened? Because obviously now, entertainment isn't the main source of your income. Yeah. So, like, when did that start to feel like, hey, I should probably now invest even more time into my full-time job? Yeah, when did you start to feel your star fade, Bob? Yeah. Well, you know, I got to be honest with you, I didn't feel it. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't, I think you could have continued. Well, it took a really good. friend of mine to help me feel it, to be honest. So I have a buddy of mine from high school who he had

gone on. He played, you know, college football. He played professional football for a while and he became a hedge fund manager and all this kind of stuff. And we'd always had this really nice thing. And he called me on my 40th birthday to wish me a happy birthday. So this was this was two years before I kind of same timeline as been. Two years when I got this advice and I chose to heat it. But he was like, hey, you know, you're, and I had just bought my second house in L.A. I'm thinking I'm just, I think I got the world, you know, I got it all figured out. And he was like, well, I just want to say this to you. He's like, I know you got your celebrity band buddies.

And he's like, I know you're buying real estate and you're doing all this kind of stuff. He's like, but pretty soon, you're not going to be the flavor of the month. There's going to be a younger, funnier, more handsome bachelor guy who's going to come. come along and you're going to be the guy that sort of like keeps getting pushed down the thing. There's never been a funnier Bachelor. Oh, Ashley, I love you so much. Thank you. But I was like, it kind of resonated with me because I think of because of who he was, right?

Who he was saying it to me. No vested interest in him saying it. It wasn't like he was competing with me for anything or whatever. It was like just a buddy who I love, who had the guts to tell me like he saw it, you know? And I was like, he's right. Like pretty soon I'm going to be that guy. that I'm telling everyone else not to be. Like, don't be the dude selling, you know, tooth whitening kits.

I'm wondering why you can't get a job in finance again. You haven't done it in a long time. Jared has a tooth whitening ad coming up, guys. No shit. Well, he's also a business owner. And, you know, there's a lot going on there. Supplemental. Supplementalent tooth light.

And he does have a brilliant smile. And so therefore he should. I have never had that much of a, I want to have the Ross from Friends teeth, and I just don't have them. Jared has vampire teeth, so. He's got good. He's got bright. Oh, they're bright.

Outside of teeth, continue, Bob. Thank you, yes. So he calls and he gives me this advice, and it really, I don't know if it was because I was just turning 40. I don't know what it was, but I had been, at that point, I was eight years off my season. It was really like the 10-year mark, I guess. So it was 10 years after I was a bachelor. And that's when I was like, you know, I'm going to start taking these opportunities

that I have because I was still doing a lot of a live event hosting at the time, where I would go and do like a Fortune 500 company would hire me. And I'd go in to be their emcee for their, you know, sales awards and stuff like that. I was like, I'm going to start. And every time I would do it, they'd offer me a job. And I'd be like, no, thanks, you know. And I was like, I'm going to quit just saying no thanks. I'm going to start thinking about these opportunities and see if I can create something that I love.

That's kind of a combination of my personality meets this and where it's not just based off of, you know. Because I was also, you know, and we all kind of go through it too. We get to that point where you're sort of, you're not tired of it, but you want to be known as something. Nelson, Bachelor Bob from 20 years ago, right? And so you're thinking like, what else can I do? And so that's when I started really thinking about it. And so in 2015, which would have been 12 years after I was the bachelor, was when I finally was like, okay, now I'm going to take advantage of these opportunities and turned it into an opportunity, left L.A., moved to Seattle with a company called Lincoln Financial, who, you know, really took a big chance with me. And they gave me

an opportunity to sort of grow and do some things that I had been doing, but, you know, take it next level and really make a career out of it. But they were also really supportive of me doing other stuff. And never once did they, you know, make me, you know, feel like I couldn't. In fact, that was kind of part of it was they were like, we want you to continue doing your stuff. That's what makes you different, you know. And so I got to do the Today Show for many years after that, which is how Ben and I met in person. And then, you know, it was like, all that kind of good stuff. So yeah, I was I was pretty happy about the way it kind of continued and

you know, I still get to dabble these days, but now with the kids and everything else the dabbling has become, you know, a little more selective. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota,

it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?

That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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And that, to me, is fantastic. And it has been since we started. So, so kind. The other thing is, and Ashley, I don't know if you know this, Bob and I were on set filming on the day show for Kathy Lee Gifford's very final day on television. Oh, really? I hear that she's like the nicest person in Hollywood. Yeah, she's amazing.

She truly is. She and Hoda both. Yeah, Hoda's gone now, but we were there. And so it was a really like eerie moment for me because I think Bob was sitting next to me in the couch and I was like, I've watched her my entire life. Like, I watched her with my mom, Regis and Kathy. Like, I watched that show with her so much. And now I'm sitting here three foot from her as she cries and says goodbye to TV.

Wow. It was wild. It's one of those moments you're like, how did this all happen? Yeah. Tumbling. Yeah. It's really awesome. But Ashley, I know you have some questions about the OG show that Bob hosts with his ex-girlfriend.

Well, first I wanted to talk about your ex-wife. oh yes okay so rebecca um was a rebecca buddig is that how you said your last name buddick yeah buddick okay man i remember this was like a big thing because my mom was a big all my children's children fan and she was on all my children so my mom thought that you guys were a really cool celebrity couple and um you guys were married for six years that six and a half yeah almost seven yeah again you were kind of like a celebrity you were marrying another actress this was all on the tabloid covers, and now you guys might be working on something together? Well, yeah, you know, it's interesting.

You know what they say never burn your bridges, right? And it's kind of funny. I always, we split up, well, I guess whatever seven years would have been after we got married. I can't remember the year now. It's 2010. I'm looking at your work in the media. Okay, thank you, yes. Thank you.

Yeah. And we, it wasn't because of anything. you know, bad or anything toxic or anything, anything, it was more that we were just two people who had grown apart. You know, we're living on opposite coasts at the time and had been for a couple of years because of her career. And I had moved with her when she wanted to go to L.A. And so I had started a career there. And it was just really difficult to figure out what was going to happen. And so it was one of those things where, oh, we'll take it every six months and see what, you know, and it's tough to do. And so it was never from a lack of, you know, love or caring for one another. It was more from just a grown apart. And, and, you know, and but we remained very friendly and um and her um husband when she remarried uh was a guy that I really liked and um respected and it was one of those things where um the long and the short of it is he came up with an idea and he presented it and it sounded pretty interesting and um and we still don't know what's going to happen with it if anything but um this past year you know she she returned back to the soaps and went back to Bold and the Beautiful.

So we actually had her, Trista and I, my ex-girlfriend Trista, and I had her on. Wow, what a triangle. Oh, yeah, what a lineage. And we had her on the show to talk about her return to daytime television and kind of teased this idea that was thrown out there. And, you know, we'll see what happens. I mean, it's one of those things very early on in the development stages, but I will tell you, and I think this is an important part to talk about, is I went to my wife,

who my wife and I had been married now. I was going to say, how does Canyon feel about this? Yeah, and Canyon's like, that's an awesome show. I think you should totally do it. I'm like, really? He's like super supportive of it, you know? Just to note, Canyon is one of the most fun people to be around and also one of the most welcoming.

She'll always make sure my wife kind of was wrapped up in some comfortable arms and shown around. Canyon is one. When she likes you. When she likes you. She can also be a pit bull when she doesn't. So, yeah, she clearly likes you. I can see that.

But I've always seen the good side, and I love the good side. Yeah, me too. I love the good side of Canyon. Me too. I agree with you, buddy. And yeah, so my wife was very supportive of the idea. So if something ever does come of it, which who knows, you know, but if something ever did come of it, I'd be more than happy to talk about it here first with you guys.

The only Canyon has a lot of, like, jealousy concerns. You know, you've really hit a home run with her, I think. She's like, Bob, you go do what you got to do, but I know. She totally does. You know, it's so true. I mean, that was the thing about her when I, you know, when I met her, I really didn't ever think I was going to get married again, you know, when I'm at Canyon. And so I was sort of like, you know, oh, we're going to date and have fun, whatever, you know.

And I was probably treating it in my mind anyway, like it was a casual, you know, relationship. And it was funny because all my buddies would be like, I'm like, well, yeah, we should go, you know. And, you know, maybe I'll bring a date. something. They're like, oh, you mean the date, the only person that you ever hang out with, but you pretend like you're not dating, Canyon? I'm like, oh, no, you know,

we're just, we're casual. And so it's funny because Canyon, to this day, like people will say, you know, you know, so what's going on with you guys? You know, what are you guys? And she'll always go, oh, we're keeping it casual, two kids casual. You know, eight years married casual. And, you know, it's actually pretty funny. But

yeah, she's super cool about that stuff. And, you know, Yeah, it's got nothing to worry about anyway. So it's not like, you know, it's very comical. I'll just tell you this when I leave to go do something. Like I'll be hosting something and she'll be like, you know, the things that she says to me are not the common things that a wife would say to a husband who's leaving for a business trip.

She'll say something and it'll literally make me laugh until I get home. And it's just like, you know, she'll say some pretty off-color things, which are part of our relationship DNA, I suppose. It's really funny to me. Let's talk about the OGs. That's our spinoff podcast that you and Tristan host. Right now you guys are doing the recaps of special forces, of course, because she's on it. But you also did a lot with the Golden Bachelor.

Why does the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bachelor, I prefer you guys over us? Well, I mean, people like to hang out with people that are around their same age. You know, I think. And I am definitely that guy. Not Trista so much, but me for sure. Yeah, it's really crazy when you're talking like the Golden Bachelor people. And I'm like, I'm like five years younger than them. This is really strange.

Bob, that is actually almost a true fact, and I feel really about that for you. No one would know. No one would ever know this. I don't know how old Joan and Shock are. She's 60 or 61 and you're 53. Yeah, I'm 53. I mean, it's like we're kind of. You're the youngest 53.

Oh, thanks. I feel like the oldest lately with my kids not sleeping through the night again. It's the sleep regression, guys. It even comes back at three. But, yeah, I think, you know, we've loved it. And thank you guys. Thank you for letting us, you know, be, on your stream and for being a part of the whole thing.

And thanks to Sugarman, of course, for even thinking of the idea. For us, it's one of those things. I mean, it's really been a lot of fun. I didn't even know what a podcast was five years ago, you know? And it's like, I'd hear people talking about it. I'm like, why the hell would you listen to a podcast? I can, you know, listen to Pop Rocks, you know, 2005, and I got all my music I need. And, you know, but it's so fun to hear to get to know people and like to hear their stories

and really, you know, share with them. And it makes you think of your own stuff, too. Like, I don't know how many times I'll be done interviewing somebody, especially from the Golden series. And I'll, like, hang up and go, gosh, I kind of relate to that person. I get it. I was feeling that way at one point, you know. And so, yeah, now we're on to the special forces thing. Trista's on there.

She's doing a really great job. First episode I watched, I won't lie to you guys. I actually got emotional watching it. Like, I was sitting there by myself because I had to wait, you know, the kids are at bed and everything. And I'm watching this person I've known for 20 years. and Trista push herself to such a place that was like I knew how uncomfortable she had to be and I knew how hard it had to be and then you start thinking about it like I mean I know Ben feels this way too every guy I know always feels this way but you started thinking man can I do that

like should I push myself should I put myself in a situation that's uncomfortable like that and you start wondering if you could do it and then you start hearing the reasons that motivate these people to go on this show because they ask you know 50 people I'm sure to get it down to these 16 or whatever and to hear the reasons that they are challenging themselves and it's not a competition show so they're not it doesn't matter who lasts to the end yeah exactly and it's like man that's just it like you start wondering you know especially at my age right on 53 i think about it you know did i peak at 32 i guess i did when i was the bachelor you know and ever since then it's like you know 20 years later it's like am i still like i played college football

am i still an athlete can i still get it done if i train a little bit you know and or am i just the dad, you know, he was basically an Uber for my kids and, you know, trying to keep all the, all the balls in the air of my family life. And, you know, it's, it's one of those things you do wonder, you know, and so it's been a lot of, uh, it's, there's been a lot of interesting conversations with everybody that's been on the show. But I think most of it's been kind of hearing Trista's connection with these people and how she feels such a bond with them after going through it. And my dad was a Marine. So, you know, I was the only, I was the one who didn't go into the armed service, armed forces. And so I'm always like, you know, did I drop the ball

there. Like, should I have done it then? Yeah, it just makes you think a lot. But it's been a pretty rewarding doing the podcast for sure. It's interesting podcasts do that, but it's such a healthy habit to get in the, I think, get in the practice of asking those questions. Not always going to the place of, oh, I drop the ball, right? Life looks different for everybody. Different past, different things happen. But it's one of the things that this show always does for me is it does give me time to reflect and ask myself those questions, you know, where am I at? Like, what am I, you know, who am I to the people around me? Bob, um, we have a really great interview, a late night interview that happened at, um, the baby shower for Jessica and I that I heart put on. Uh, it has all the

details of kind of how, uh, you decided to have kids, how that all worked out, the process of having kids, what you've learned as a father, anybody listening right now that just wants, a very raw, very authentic interview with Bob. Go back in the thread here and listen to that. It's Evergreen. I mean, it talks about Bob's story, you know, being a father at, what were you, 47, I think. 47, 48, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Grayson's six now, so I was 47, yeah.

Yeah, it's a great interview or just a great conversation, I think, that a lot of people can learn a lot from. In the closing moments here, I do want to lean into your time as the Bachelor because you were The Bachelor. Do you, my first question before we even get going here, and I ask a bunch of questions that you might not even have an answer to, do you even remember the season? Yeah, that's the one thing.

You know, it's kind of burned in my brain for the most part, I think. Because I don't. I don't remember a lot of my season. Yeah, I do. You could say stuff and I'll be like, oh, I remember that. Yeah. But like, I couldn't recall the small moments or all the things that happened very easily. And I didn't mean that as like a dig,

like, oh, it's so long ago, I meant it as like a, it was such a flash and such a blur to me now. Right. Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, yeah, I remember the broad strokes, you know. I remember the wide brush moments, I suppose. And the things that, you know, I carry with me, like, you know, I remember the moments of just like all out fatigue, right? Like, you know, I always reference one moment in particular where, and it's almost like I'm making fun of the show to a certain degree, but I'm like, yeah, they want you to make all these,

you know, life-changing decisions. but, you know, they've got a half gallon of Tito's down your neck and they throw you on a private jet to Vegas. And then as you spend the, you know, the better part of an evening and into the wee morning hours, they fly you back. And then when you think you're going to go to bed, they throw you in a new outfit and say, okay, sit down and talk about the date. And then we're going to go hot air balloon riding at 6 a.m. You're like, what? And I remember, I remember that in particular as like a forced turnaround time for me that was like, wow. you know, how am I supposed to, you know, even have conversations at that point? But strangely enough, I guess I did it.

But, you know, yeah, I remember the big stuff. I think, you know, there are probably some moments that if someone were told me they happened, I'd be like, oh, okay, maybe they did, you know. But, yeah, I remember it. And I definitely, you know, I savor some of those moments too because they were, I think I'm really bad at being in the moment and realizing that I should really savor that moment, you know, and I'm one of those people that just assumes I'll remember it all and it's going to happen again next time too, right? And so I'm definitely not one of the people that

pulls out my phone, much to my wife's chagrin. Like, I never am documenting things, which I should. I'm just a guy that's just in it, having a blast and, you know, assuming I'm going to remember it all. But yeah, I do remember most of the big moments of the show and, you know, really treasure the relationships I made as a result of them. Did either of you have Bachelor Diaries? no I didn't oh my god mine was the most embarrassing thing to reread is it really yeah I probably I have some stuff I wrote down there more like prayers I was kind of like Bob I was tired I was frustrated I was emotional I was confused and so a lot of times it was just like I need three minutes to write so I can get some of these thoughts out of my head onto paper so I can like come back

tonight and revisit them because I'm not going to remember why I was all sad today it's a whirlwind in fact i you know if i was 35 and single i don't know if i could say yes to doing it i don't know if i have the stamina there is one person though that i know bob i relate with that but there is one person i think that savored the moment and maybe the only lead that i know that really did um jojo talks about like how much fun she had uh and how enjoyable the experience was i wish i would have had more of that mentality i wish i would enjoy it it more because it was more like a work like I'm going I'm here intentionally to do one thing to find somebody and it's going to be hard the rest of the way you did have a hybrid I think I was a

hybrid between you guys because I really like I really enjoyed the moments until they got really real at the end and then I felt then I felt like it was grueling to try and figure out the right thing I was always worried about hurting people's feelings yeah that was my big thing Bob, we are going to dive into the season. There is a moment that people still talk about that became a very big moment for you during this season. There's a moment with Kelly Joe where you told her she isn't the one. And the reaction, I think, brought in the audience's attention.

Can you tell us more about what was actually happening? Yeah, well, you know, she was of my final two. And it came down to that moment, you know, the big reveal when you're standing there surrounded by flowers and you're in a tuxedo and they're in their beautiful gowns. And I mean, truth be told, I, you know, I've often thought about this when people will say, you know, oh, I don't know how you could be even confused at that moment. You know, you either know or you don't. And I was still very confused. I was still kind of trying to put it together, the emotions and what I was going to do. Am I going to propose?

Am I not? what am I doing here, you know? And back then, the show was a lot more formulaic in the way that they presented it. You know, so if, you know, when they're cutting the show together and they know you're choosing girl number two, well, then girl number one is going to be for sure head and shoulders above everyone as the clear favorite, right? And so it almost was a disservice to the woman that you did select because then you'd start your relationship and everyone was like, well, man, I mean, it looked like you were going to

totally be with you know this girl and it almost created this like weirdness that was really difficult I think for people to maintain a relationship after that too because it played into all your fears and all your you know your trepidation about being on the show and was he going to choose her until I just came down the hill or whatever but anyway yeah Kelly Joe comes down the hill and and she's a very bubbly personality and we definitely connected throughout the whole season I mean there was no question Kelly Joe and Estella who I ended up ultimately choosing um were the they were the clear, you know, final two, given the way that I had reacted to them and vice versa. And Kelly Joe is very spunky to this day.

Like, we've remained friendly. She's been on almost famous DOGs, actually. Okay, I was going to ask. Yeah. And she comes down, and, you know, they didn't know which order they were coming down. They didn't know that Estella hadn't already come down. So she assumes that she's the one. And when I say, you know, I'm telling her how great she is.

And I'm like, But and oh my God. When I say the word, you know, but or however or whatever I said, she's holding my hands. And I remember her just whipping them down and just looking at me like she was going to punch me in the face. And the look was legit. Like, I mean, I was like, there was some fear. I'm not going to lie. Because she was that spunky and that fiery.

And I was like, oh, my God, she's going to totally punch me out. And she didn't, thankfully. But then when I said, she like turned around to walk away. And I'm like, hold on, may I walk you back to the car? And she's like, fine, you know? And, you know, that was the first time I think that the reaction was such on the show. Because that was still early on. And I think up until that point, people were sad when they didn't get the final rows,

but they weren't mad. And man, she was mad. And I'll never forget it because I was talking about that. Even when we're going on the tour to parade around, you know, Estella and I to talk about our relationship and where we're at with things. And they're asking about Kelly Joe and why she was, you know, she was all pissed off. And, you know, it was crazy. It was a crazy experience for sure.

And it definitely set the tone for, you know, a lot of things to come after that. Have you talked to Estella at all in the past 20 years? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Stella. And I, we, we had coffee a few times and, you know, definitely had a nice closure, I guess it would be to our relationship. And she's been a guest on almost famous the OGs too, because there was a period a time where we were having like every X I've ever had in my life on the show

I'm like hey Trista when are we going to have Charlie on what the hell yeah I still I have still yet to do that we've had Jojo yeah it was a long time coming Jojo it's coming what you want to do that too remember Nick did that where he had like all of his season of girls come on do you want to do that you want to have all your girls come on we can surprise you tomorrow yeah personally for your season for because you have a Bachelor episode as well. We're recapping your season. Oh my goodness. So maybe we should just surprise you

tomorrow. There's nothing that would stop me now. I mean, I think initially Bob and I sit in the same place where this experience is very real for us. And I think it is, I think everybody wants it to be and hopes it is. It isn't always that way. Some people get out of this and they're like, I, you know, I don't mind talking all because like nothing was like actually ever real. Nothing ever was felt. Yeah. And so I think when you feel it, it's harder to then even get to a place where you're like, I would love to talk to you again. Like that's not a normal human response to like talking to people that you've dated.

Yeah. At this point in my life, I would have no issues because, you know, life has moved on for everybody in beautiful ways. And so now it's like, yeah, that could be fun, especially people would listen. I would love to do that. Well, I think that's a part of it, too, though, was you're in a great place, right? It's like when you're in a great place and they're in a great place, you know, like one of the things I loved about talking to Estella when we did was, you know, she had gotten engaged and now she's married. And it was like, okay, you know, now, and I've got, I'm happily married with kids.

It's like, okay, now we're, now we can all kumbaya, right, and we can reminisce. And, you know, and you keep it light, right? You don't have to, you don't have to go down the rabbit hole on anything because no one, you know, cares anymore. There's no reason to, you know, but yeah, I actually didn't mind it. I actually was kind of excited about it, to be honest, because I knew I was in a good place with both of them. So to have them on the show, you know, made me feel, I don't know, some sort of like, you know, accomplishment and some sort of closure that was a positive thing all the way around because we were all in such great places personally. Yeah, it's great with me. I mean, I've said it many times on the show, but, you know, Chris Lane and I text about golf all the time.

I think he's an awesome dude. So, like, why not? Then go one step further. Bring him on, too. Let's all chat. There you go. It could be fun. That will be fun.

It would be great. Bob, this is kind of coming off of our conversation, though. Has Canyon watched your season? So, again, Canyon is much younger than me, obviously. She's 12 years younger than me. So she just turned 41 this year. So I think she was a senior in high school. Would that be right, math-wise?

Yeah. Close. She was born in 84. She may have been a freshman in college. Maybe a freshman college. Okay, so, you know, the big joke always between Canyon and I was that her mom was the fan of the show and knew who I was, but Canyon, you know, Canyon didn't care. So, needless to say, I unearthed a few different times when I caught her actually having some knowledge of things that she shouldn't have known had she not watched any of my season. But, yeah, she had never watched it.

So my brother-in-law and my sister had, of course, taped every episode or whatever, but they did it on TiVo back in the day that was supposed to be the new cutting edge technology that would be around forever. Oh, we had to dig the TiVo out of the attic and, like, plug it into a TV because she's like, I really want to see this. I was super uncomfortable. I'm not going to lie. I'm like, oh, my God, are you sure you want to see this? I'm not sure that this is a good idea. And thankfully, and much to, like, she loves this part. When we plugged it into the back of the TV, the connections weren't the same.

And so it was actually in black and white. Oh, my God. That just fed her narrative. She's like, oh, my, why don't we get an 8 millimeter out? I was like, you know, okay, we're going to film me on the show. Is there sound on this or was this, you know, silent Bachelor Day? But it was, you know, it was pretty funny. And she watched the first, like, 15 minutes of it.

And she was like, okay, I'm good. Because it was like, you know, they do the, this season on The Bachelor. And it's like, you know, a whole thing. And, you know, she got to see me, like, make out with 50 people. And so she was over it, you know. But I think it was one of those things where it was definitely, I'm glad she got a little synopsis because she hears about it all the time from people. And she can at least say,

I watched all I needed to watch of that season or whatever, you know. Her favorite thing to say is, yeah, it's all fun in games until you live with it. So that's probably pretty accurate. But no, to answer your question, no, she's never actually watched my season. But like she says, she's heard enough about it for a lifetime. So you're telling me that you can't find your season anywhere because this is what Prince Lorenzo told us as well. Prince Lorenzo Bargese? I love that guy.

Yes. He came on our podcast. and he was like, you can't find my season anywhere, and I haven't been able to. And I had no idea that if you have an old TiVo around, you could plug it in and all the recordings are still there. He's got to put some gas in it and fire it up. Yeah, my, I've been told from some people that were on my season that you can find it on like, you know,

the Hulu Annals or something of that nature. But what's a Hulu Annals? I don't know. Like, you can go somewhere and find it like on old seasons past. I've never spent too much time going to look for it, if I'm being really honest. I know there's some VHS tape somewhere in my parents' basement that's, you know, got it all documented for me when it's time to show the kids. But actually, to be really funny, you guys, you got it. So my son, Grayson, who's six, I know Ben probably has heard me talk about this before, but my son is really, he's a big personality.

I don't know where he gets it from. And we were literally, like, we'll be at McDonald's at the Playland, and they'll be playing and I'll order like you know a coffee and a couple of happy meals right and the woman will come over with the tray with you know with the coffee and the happy meals and he'll be on the play escape and he'll go it's him yeah you can get a picture with him if you want it's it's it's bachelor bob or he'll call me Bob the builder he'll go it's Bob the builder he'll interchange them all the time and I'm just like oh my gosh and I'm like honey he's dropping off a coffee she's dropping off a happy meal bro she doesn't she's 12 she doesn't know who i am you know but it's like he loves it if anyone

stops to talk to me like to ask for directions like i swear to you he'll go it's he'll take a picture with you yeah he'll do it they want to i'm like buddy they're asking if you know seven 11's up here on the corner they're good so it's become comical to me because my wife like loves it and i think he gets some of his uh sense of humor from his mom because she likes to put me in uncomfortable spots but um yeah i think it'll be fun someday you know to let them see some of that stuff i hope i can hang on to find it i've been trying to search right now while you've been telling the story and that's a hilarious story and i'm obsessed with it and yeah if you like want to download illegal things we can definitely get it why can't just a vc give us these things i want the full series on

DVD as well i don't know you think they would like they'd want it out there i don't know what i want is all the footage from Jared in my paradise that never made air. Like, I want to see all the embarrassing moments. The cutting room floor. I bet there were so many great moments. I don't know why. You know, we didn't know each other then, obviously, but I remember feeling

such a, I was so happy for you when you guys finally, and you knew it all along. And I was always like, God, and I was like, I felt like we were such good friends then. And it's funny. I see why people, like, gravitate to certain people from the show, I was the same way.

I was like fan girling all over you. I was like, oh my God, I love it. You know, this is so great that they're together. Yeah, I love it. You're very welcome. Thanks. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam.

Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

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Yeah. What was something in the delivery room that you didn't expect? Something about getting to the hospital or anything like that. Yeah. Well, you know, we had been given so much advice. We were living in Seattle at the time. And Canyon is a tough chick. And so, like, you know, she wouldn't even really let on that she was, you know, having minor contractions and everything.

Because we were told, like, the last thing you want to do is be early to the hospital. They'll send you home. make sure you're in the right place when you get there. And so we might have waited a little too long because the lions were playing. And I was, you know, it was December, it was December 2nd, technically, but she didn't deliver until the third. But I was like, oh, no, you know, they said we can wait. You know, I was trying to be casual.

I had that my go bag was ready. I was good to go, you know. And, but I was trying to like prolong it a little because we actually lived relatively close to the hospital too. So I will say this. When we got to the hospital, it got real fast, you know, like even though she hadn't delivered, she didn't deliver for a while. And I was just all of a sudden, I mean, don't, you know, and Ben, there is no one. And Ashley and I have talked about this before.

There is no one born to be a dad more than Dan Higgins. I mean, there's no one more. And I think of myself as this is my calling too. And I think you're like heads and shoulders above me. So I feel like no matter what, you're not ready for it. Okay? So let's just get that out of the way. Then you get there and you'll never love your wife more than in that moment.

And then you'll never love anyone more than that baby from that point on in your life. It's like it changed my life. Honestly, God, I'll cry. Then you'll be a mess like me, you know? I know I will. That's the part I'm holding on to. I'm doing every like masculine non-emotional thing up until yeah do it because then your life's over then you're a total puddle like me every time I talk about my kids but yeah I'm just going to be a mess

but I'll say this you know so Canyon was going to try and deliver naturally and so she went through all of it and then all of a sudden they're like nope we're going to have to go see sex in right so we go in I'm expecting I'm super stoked because now I'm going to get scrubs. And so this for whatever reason was my primary thing. I'm like, wait, can I, you know, so am I scrubbing in? Am I, you know, am I getting the blue hat? And I don't. I don't get any of that. They threw me in this yellow plastic shirt. And I, you know, I wasn't in the greatest shape. And they're like, you know, you got to take off your shirt because you're going to be the skin on skin. I'm like, what? And so I'm, I wasn't prepared for any of that. And so we go

in, I'm in this horrible clown outfit. And I feel like I'm really feeling like I got shafted on that regard and uh but i'm i'm right up there and they're like you know well where do you want to be i'm like i'm a shoulders guy i'm up here you know and so uh that was number one but then uh canyon i'll never forget it canyon started having like almost like she was in shock like she started shaking really bad that's what that's very common with is that common yes my sister-in-law just had one and she goes i was shivering while yes while being cut open yeah convulsing she said it was like so be prepared if she needs a C-section. I'm like, oh, my God, it's normal.

When they pull Grace now. We're freaking him out right now. Oh, yeah. They pull Grace now and they take them over to this warming station and they're cleaning them up and they're like, okay, dad. And I am crazy wanting to be there, but I can't leave Canyon. So I'm just like, I'm just staying here. And I'm like, okay, you know, all the fingers, all the toes, everything good.

You're like, yeah. I'm like, you got that. I'll be there as soon as she's okay. I just don't want to leave her. Can someone come over and help her? And because I was, I was all of a sudden, like, I don't want to leave her alone. And she's looking at me like, you know, don't go. And I'm like, oh, you know, I was like, it's torn.

And it was like, I wasn't expect. No one coaches you on that part either. And, uh, but the second I could, I went, raced over to Grayson and was just like, you know, oh, and I, you know, laid down. And he was on my chest. And I didn't realize now why I'm in this giant zippered clown outfit, I guess. But it was one of those moments where it's like, you know, all of a sudden, everything makes sense. It's like, okay, now I know.

why I was in love with this person and wanted to marry her and now I now I get if I didn't know before I sure know now you know and it's like this is it this is what we're supposed to do and and yeah it's crazy that's so sweet oh my God I'm so excited for you dude I'm so excited for you see sections she did yeah when we had the second one um well first of all Blake's you know Blake's came out with like a marty-graw head so it's kind of like you know your kid's like he's like is that a giant balloon the way um you know he's finally growing into it a little but uh you know um no it's one of those things like there's no way there's no way that blake was going to come out naturally but um you know that's just it that's just that but yeah i mean i will say this man it is i'm excited for you guys i mean just is such a beautiful and wonderful soul and so are you and your kid is going to be so incredibly special i mean it's it's just and i love how i I really do love this, Ashley, how you and Jared have, you know, really kind of brought Dawson along for the ride in some of those moments. And it's like, I love that you guys do that. And it's,

always to me, like, that's been so much fun for me with our boys is when we can stop them from being the hell out of each other and actually seeing them hug each other once in a while, which does happen too. Um, you know, I'm so thankful that it's all worked out the way that it has. So I always say this when people are like, you know, would you do it all over again if they ask you to be the bachelor. And I'm like, because of the way my life has turned out, my answer is absolutely yes. Because I believe firmly that we go through all this stuff to end up where we end up, right? And so it's a butterfly effect. Did I done anything differently? I know. I wouldn't be sitting where I'm sitting. I wouldn't be talking to you guys. I wouldn't have these two beautiful kids and a

beautiful wife and a life that I'm so thankful to have. And so it's like, you know, yeah, I think, I think, I think, you know, Lacey Pemberton every day for staying on that casting call when I basically had said, I'm good. Thanks. Don't want to do anything with you guys. And I'm so thankful because I have had the best ride as a result of it. Ditto, Ditto, Ditto. One of the, one of the most recognizable bachelors of all time, Bob Guinea, thank you for coming on the Almost Famous Podcast. Thanks for being here. Again, go and listen to Almost Famous OGs. It's within our feed. It's wherever you can listen to podcasts. They do an incredible job. You get Bob and his ex-girlfriend Trista. Trista right now is on special forces. They're breaking down every episode,

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