The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor Girl Scouts with Kathy Swarts, Susan Noles and Nancy Hulkower PART 2

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

Our Bachelor Nation OG Bob Guiney is back for more with the stars from The Golden Bachelorette! We hear some life lessons on friendship, parenting, and the power of putting down the phone!See omnystud...io.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.
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Starting point is 00:03:06 We've got Kathy, Susan, and Nancy with us. And we're going to get right into the nitty gritty. So I can tell you guys this. So 20 some years ago when I did Trista's show. Right. And a lot of those guys are still my very good friends. Very good friends. Oh, that's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:03:19 You weren't getting rid of me. Yep. So this has legs, guys. This is something that is tried and true. You go through these experiences together. And it doesn't mean that every one of you are going to be best friends. But when you do find that connection with your, with your tribe, and you just keep it going as long as you want it to, you know, and we've always wanted it to. I also think that our, because of the Golden Bachelor and you know the premise and most of us had, I know Susan had a horrible divorce.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Kathy and I both lost our husbands from death. I mean, yours by suicide, mine cancer. But when you all get together. Susan's by boredom. It wasn't bad. I didn't say, okay. It didn't mean a bad. Horrible divorce.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Okay. Sorry. We're still friends. Okay. Right. You're right. But you've had loss. That's a loss.
Starting point is 00:04:10 But my point was that when you have all these women who come together and we've all lost something. Loss in. And you empower one another. And I think we all connected because of that. And we all were there. for each other and we were rooting each other on like hope you like gary i don't i don't but you do you're like no you know it's funny so i remember that from when we were doing trista season you know i was the elder statesman right so i was 32 at the time everyone else was like late 20s wait how old were you
Starting point is 00:04:45 i was 30 i was your age then yeah yes so i was 32 when i was on the bachelor at 31 going on 32 and then i was 32 and i was the bachelor yeah and i was the oldest bachelor at that point that's the I missed Mike for many years. Yeah. No, but you know what? I remember saying to those guys, I was like, guys, it doesn't matter if we need to get along because we're going to be like dealing with each other for the next few weeks. I really did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I got in trouble. See, we didn't have to say that. Well, that's just here. We were dealing with people that, like the goal at that time, because it was the first season of the Bachelorette, the goal was they were like, we need the guys to be, you know, kind of at each other's, you know, the thing. Like they are now, right? We weren't like that. We were like, we were good friends.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We got along great. they come back from a damn big how was it genuinely wanting it to be good how do you think the golden bachelors that are on yeah this is going to be really interesting i think it's going to be i think it's going to be awesome have you checked them out i have some really good looking dudes on there yeah but i also i will say like one of my favorite things about you're all season of the show and i and you two know i said this a lot i thought they were going to do the kind of bull crap stuff that they do right oh here comes a couple, you know, 40-year-olds that we're going to parade in here who are going to, you know, and I was so glad they didn't do that. It was age-appropriate casting. And it was all these
Starting point is 00:06:04 successful and beautiful women and a really nice guy in Gary. And I thought it was like, it was really cool to see that. Well done. Yeah. It was. But I will be honest. And I think the casting was fabulous. The casting was amazing. That's, I agree. Yes, Kat. I would like to say this about that. I would like to say this about that. Honestly, when I went on it or applied for it, it said women 65 and over.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And when I got there, that's true. 11 of the 22 women were beneath. They were younger than 65. Oh, okay. And so for me, you know, I'm strong, I'm healthy.
Starting point is 00:06:48 You know, I'm not the best looking, but I don't stop a clock. I thought, okay, you know, I can compete with this. Yeah. But when you have a 60-year-old and there were 59-year-old women and there were women as old as 74, that's a really wide age span to compete for one guy. I mean, so that was a little, I'm being honest, for me, that was a little tough. My biggest thing on the show, we've all agreed upon this as well, I wish, especially for the
Starting point is 00:07:20 senior ones because we're serious not that the young ones aren't no but you're right time with people yeah like everyone should have a one-on-one i agree oh that's a nice suggestion that's a really nice suggestion right and i i think everybody gave less of a feedback about that i mean sure i don't think that's the formula i don't think that's the formula for the show yeah we've all talked about that well it's not but you know you don't have to air it you don't have to air every one on one day but it sure would be nice for everyone to have that moment, especially when you are giving, like when you're a 22-year-old fresh out of college,
Starting point is 00:07:57 working at the Dairy Queen, you know, you're just glad to be doing something, right? When you're, when you're orange and you're taking time away. We were up in our room at night saying, you know, we don't care about a one-on-one. We just want a date with Gary. We don't want much. We want a helicopter ride with Diamond Airy.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I want to go to a volcano. I didn't get the Diamond-Ey-Ring. I wanted the diamond. I wanted the diamond earrings. So I remember saying my season of the bachelor, I remember saying to the ladies, I was like, ladies, you might be surprised by this. But whoever goes home tonight,
Starting point is 00:08:28 you're the lucky ones. Because if you come home with me, we're not taking a helicopter into a volcano tonight. Okay? We're living in Detroit, Michigan, where I love. But you might not like it so much. Do you think that has something to do with that falling for each other doing this? Oh, totally.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Are you kidding? You're doing these amazing experiences, right? And that's not right. Yeah, it's getting your endorphins going and everything. And then the show is over and it's like, pick your damn socks up off the floor. Exactly. It's right back to the same old B. Well, and also, like, are you still?
Starting point is 00:09:02 And after the show's over, I'm sure, you know, are you still going to color your hair like you did on the show? Are your nails done all the time? Are you still going to dress like you did on the show? Right. Yeah, not a lot of opportunities for evening gowns. every, you know, every week. Right. And those heels.
Starting point is 00:09:21 They need chairs. Oh, we're back to Susan's six-inch heels. Susan was rocking to stilettles every week. They were not six-inch. No. But you know what? It truly, it was the most amazing experience for me, and I think for the three of us. And truly, I mean, we always talk about it, and I'm sure people get tired of hearing it.
Starting point is 00:09:46 but the experience of being on the show and the friendships and just the day-to-day life for all of us since then and the friendships that we developed was worth everything. We didn't find love with Gary, but we found love with each other. And that sounds so hokey, but it doesn't. No, no, I get it. And it's about reaching people that have shared with all of us
Starting point is 00:10:11 their story and said, you guys gave me some encouragement. And hope for other people. making me feel like maybe it isn't over. Who can maybe, right. Yeah. And I also, I remember being at the, we did a talent show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:26 And I remember sitting there watching and we had all been together for a few days, I don't know, five days or 10 days, whatever. But we're sitting there and I remember the feeling of everybody, each of us got up on stage in front of 300 Bachelor Nation fans. It was crazy. Never happened. Totally. The whole thing.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And I remember thinking this is so cool. I felt like I was watching my six-year-old at that time. Like in her first ballet performance. Like we were all rooting for each other. It was like you had your child up on the stage,
Starting point is 00:11:12 but we were all like. it we have do it do it like we were so proud of each other for getting up and being vulnerable and all that stuff because it really is being vulnerable you're right totally my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well Dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Now, hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
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Starting point is 00:15:31 is vibe. People love hearing that because a lot of people don't feel like they're even at a stage in their life where they can make new friends, right? Well, you're right. When I say sick of hearing, I guess really what I was saying is we both get a lot of comments on our Instagram saying, are you two still friends? Are you know, are you friends? Or did you really make friends? And the truth is the three of us are very good friends.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And we, we know my friends now. Right. It's nice to bring them all together. They know our children. We know each other's children. We FaceTime with each other's children. We are very good friends. And so I guess what I'm saying is sometimes people doubt that.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I'm like, don't doubt it. Celebrate it. Because at our age, friendships are really important. Not everybody can get the guy. Yeah, that's so true. Not everybody can get the guy. People have a hard time when they're older and they don't have as many people around them making friends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah, that's true. We had that gifted opportunity. And we had that experience, right? Yep. And then you guys have that shared experience, too. Without social media, without walls we had was each other. Right, that's right. And you've got to get to know.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And you're either going to make it or break it in those moments. And we did. Did you miss your phone? Not at all. Not a second. It was refreshing. I was 24 hours. It was hard.
Starting point is 00:16:57 A couple times I went to get the iPad or the phone. It was happening. No, it was refreshing. Oh, God. I didn't miss. I always have my phone in my hand. I don't go anywhere. I didn't miss my phone.
Starting point is 00:17:09 And you know why? Because that kept you busy. Because I had people that I wanted to interact with. Sure. And honestly, that's a lesson for everyone is if you put down your phone, if you put down your social media after you listen to this podcast, you know, there's so much to be gained from making friendships and relationships. And be present.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Yeah. And not have the phone. Right. Be present. Yeah. I try to do that with my, it's funny that you say that about friendships, but I try to do that with my kids right now because I want them, I want to be able to tell them not to...
Starting point is 00:17:40 How old are your children? Five and three. They have phones? No. No, but I do. And I'm on it a lot. Oh, for you not to be on it. My goal is just, and I'm not good at it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I'm not going to lie. I'm really bad at it. None of us. But as an older dad, I'm 53. I have a five-year-old and a three-year-old, right? Most my friends are in college. So it's like, I'm like, I want to make sure my kids learn by my example. So I'm trying really hard to make mental notes of doing it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I remember hearing somebody, Simon Seneca said, if you come to a meeting and you're sitting at a meeting and he said, this is true for families, this is true for couples, this is true for girlfriends, whoever. And you have your phones and the person puts their phone on the table. He said, do you feel like you're the most important person in the room? No. They're waiting for their phone.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And if they put their phone, If they turn it over, do you still feel like you're the most important person? No. He said the phone should not be on the table. The phone should be turned off while you're having a conversation. And you should never, I mean, it's hard for us to do in this, you know, now with everything going on. But at the same time, it's really important. No, I agree.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I don't shut it off, but I keep it in my pocket. For months, I practice. Just don't bring it to bed. Yeah. I charge it in the kitchen and go up to bed. And now she takes a guy with her. She says, hey, when you take this down? It's back up in my room because I didn't get the guy.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I'm going to bring it back. So this has become, this is an annual thing for us, right? We get, now, and now we got Nancy involved too. Wait, four times I heard. So we got to keep this going. Well, you got to give me advanced dates because I like being here. I do too. I enjoy you.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I enjoy everybody. Well, I love you guys. I love your. friendship. I love what you three came away. This, I'm telling you, I say this all the time about, like they'll say, what's the new advice for the new bachelor guy? And I think you guys have heard me say this before, but I'm always like, well, first of all, it's not about you. Right? And so it could be a monkey handing out flowers. And the, and the girls are going to cry. Same for the, same with the, you know, the general roles are reversed. But the other part
Starting point is 00:19:59 of it is make sure you make, make sure you to make time to make friends. Yeah. Because you're going to have this experience, the shared experience that you're not going to have with all but 25 or 30 people for the rest of your life. Right. Like in the world, there's not that many people to get. And, and savor what you have.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah. And savor what you get from it. Yeah. And make the most of it because you guys are going to have some really fun moments after that too. And get Jones leftovers. We're all going to. Hopefully we're going to have a chance at the leftovers. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Because we're the, well, I don't even like that word. We're not. I'm no leftovers. I don't care what you call them. I want one. I'll be interested to see. Do you guys know, do they, can you spill? Do they possibly bring any of you out to provide counsel?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I wish. I'm ready. Oh, you never know. They didn't bring me. I called them and let them know them local in case they need. There you go, just a case. I'm just a stone's throw away, right? If you need me, I'll phone it in.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Let me just tell you, there is one guy that was from Austin, Texas, where I'm from. Oh, yeah, he's a rancher. He said, he said rancher. There's no rancher. You said, Kathy, you have to get the rancher from Austin. I'm going publicly. I don't know if Joan chose him because I don't know how it worked out. But I'm here to tell you, there are no ranches in the city limits of Austin.
Starting point is 00:21:20 She's already done in her own work. You're like, I'm like, I'm either. I think his name is David. David, if you're in Austin, I'd like to know where the hell are your ranches. So you think could he be on the outskirts? It could be on the outskirts. There's lots of ranches. But, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Giddy up. Let's find out when that ranches. Well, I love you, ladies. Thank you for joining this on the show. Let's have a great weekend ahead, okay? God bless you. Thank you. See you on the course.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the
Starting point is 00:22:06 okay storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the okay storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Emanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency. Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD, oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
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