The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor No More

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Ben and Ashley have some BREAKING Bachelor news! Could we be experiencing a lead switch in the next season?? We take you through all the facts and try to figure out who might be the replacement! Ben has a brutally honest take about Devin and his 13 minute “apology”.  And a recent Bachelorette is officially engaged!!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. It's time for Bachelor headlines. Goodness gracious, Ashley, I think this headlines episode might have some of the juiciest and most like action-packed headlines that we've ever had. well one of them for sure i can i will agree with you on i think in general just we have a lot of headlines here that are newsworthy and that our listeners will be excited to hear about okay let's go for it we're going to start with this one because i just don't think it's true but it is a rumor and if you follow any bachelor adjacent um social media platform or website it's going to be

brought up and talked about and i want to bring it up here and talk about it with all of you. So you hear our thoughts on the matter. The headline is this. Grant is no longer the Bachelor. This has been a rumor being spread now over the last three days. Ashley, what do we know? Okay. So when I saw this rumor, I texted our group and I was like, okay, well, we have to do a breaking news podcast on this. It was like, why? And so interesting. I thought like, oh, okay, so maybe something came out about his past and they can't get over. It's. That's what the rumor is saying. There's something, some information has come up to production and they won't be able to go forward with him because of that.

And I was like, all right, all right, that's not too far-fetched. And then I was also thinking, oh, or is it because they're obsessed with how much attention Jonathan's getting and they're just going to move Jonathan to the lead? They're going to pretend as if, like, something came up. But really, it's because they wanted a new lead based on the amount of attention. Jonathan's been getting on social media with all of his appearances with Jim. in L.A. because they're really playing the would they, are they or are they not game? And then I woke up to something this morning. And I was like, oh, okay. Now that I, like, am bummed that it seems to be totally false. You know that I think it's, I think that Grant seems

like lovely, but he's just not a very exciting choice for Bachelor. Anyway, Bachelor Jada did a video today about the sourcing of this rumor the rumor is like in certain locations that seem like kind of like legit publications but then they keep rerouting people to this like they'll highlight it you know they'll link it be like this website is reporting and then when you go to the crux of the rumor and the original article or this started it's like the least reliable source ever it's basically a ad site like this this website has nothing but like scammy ads like scammy like sex ads and stuff so it looks like it's not true so guys grant is still your bachelor uh there are comments that are interesting underneath some of the rumor posts like we have zachary reality

posting his own you know tic talk about the rumor and here are some quotes from underneath his post and from Reddit. I have it on good authority. This could be satire. I have it on good authority that Jesse and the producers are in talks with Tommy DeVito. He would be the backup quarterback for the Giants for his own season. His mom's chicken cutlets deserve a hometown episode. Maybe that's why Grant is on pause.

Listen, this would be a dream. I love this. As a Giants fan and they're just floundering year after year. This would bring light to my life. I don't think it's true. Then somebody else said, I'm skeptical when it's Zachary Reality. He's been right about a few things,

but maybe, yeah, this doesn't seem right. And that's what Bachelor Data said. She was like, listen, if it's somebody like Reality Steve, who's had it right in the past, that would be, there'd be more smoke to this story. It's always interesting to see these rumors

spread. Now, yes, I don't think it's true. I think it's a spam. However, the, you know, those weird magazines that you see at grocery stores that always have the rumors that seem outrageous and untrue and no way believable. 90% of right. You said 50. 50% of the time, those rumors end up coming true. 50% they don't. However, I do think that in this case, where there's smoke, there's fire. I do too. And I'm not saying, I don't think it's at any level true. However, I would not be shocked, not be shocked at all. If at least at some point somebody in the no has had a conversation going, hey, was this the best choice?

Or is there another way to do this? I do think Grant, if they stick with Grant, will be a great bachelor. He's gotten a lot of love. I just don't think we know him. So I'm wondering if the show is going, if we have the opportunity to get somebody that the audience would maybe be more knowledgeable of, is this our time to do it? Exactly what I was thinking. Like there might be a little something out there that is not like the best because they want their bachelor to basically be like you, Ben. Totally like a pristine background check.

And if there's like a story or two circulating around him, they may think of it. or at least one person on the higher-ups might be like, oh, this could be our out. I stole a stop sign once. He stole a stop sign. You also, you know, we always talk about how boobies and cocaine or whatever. Yeah, I did find a bunch of cocaine on the beach ones, but that actually like helps my background. Yeah, you were actually like, you turned it in. Yeah, I didn't even try to take advantage of that one.

Hey, wait, Ben, Ben, about Grant for one more second. Okay. Do you want to talk about how you? you feel his job is a little interesting because he's a day trader? He's kind of confronted that. And I think he did it on his social media a little while back talking through some of his strategies. He is a day trader.

So like in your opinion, you think it's like kind of like a professional gambler? It really, it's risky. It's risky. And without the right backing, without any type of middle and back office checking you and making sure that you're compliant. Making sure also, maybe he does. I have no clue that he has the capital to, you know, hedge and to trade on margins. It's a really risky business.

His strategies were even like very just, they weren't like a very like fundamental. Financial advisor, like an actual. Yeah. Like he was just kind of, you know, trading some options and showing his options progress. Isn't that okay if you're just doing it for yourself? Oh, none of it's not okay. Yeah. Like, none of it's not okay.

It's not like he's dealing with other people's frightenances without having good education. Like, he couldn't. You have to have licensing to do with somebody else's or to even give any advice. It's not not okay. I'm not saying that at all. It's just a very risky thing to say that you're doing for a living. Now, some people make it. And I'm assuming he is because he seems to be a very like, you know,

well-off a person right now. But you don't know. You don't know until you kind of dig deep. I will just say I was working in finance for six years. I've never yet met a day trader that does it for a hobby that makes a living on it.

It is really hard. Yeah. I know somebody who makes a very good living off of it. Well, good for them. But this person also has like the best luck I've ever seen in my life. So it's just interesting. I was curious when he originally announced his job. I was like, I just want to know more about it.

He did confront it on Instagram. And I go, okay, he's doing it. I mean, that's cool. I got it. He knows what he's doing. And I'm happy for him. And I hope it's so, it's super successful. The next headline is another big one.

This week, Devin, continues. just to take a shovel and not even slowly. He like intentionally digs bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger holes and he just kind of likes to bury himself in him. It feels like his strategy is to how often can I hit rock bottom

and then how much farther can I push to make rock bottom look a little different than it did before and let me just keep doing it until everybody just kind of has low expectations of what's going to happen and they stop worrying about it. He's trying to, I don't know, clean his name up.

It just ain't working. He really doesn't get it. Like, he does not get how to work an audience. Like, I'm just, I'm thinking about this from a PR's, a PR rep's point of view when I say this. Like, if he really, like, he obviously didn't, didn't work out with Jen, right? But there were so many ways that he could have made it seem so much more pleasant on after the final rows

in so many ways and then this move I need to know what move what we talk about Ashley oh the move

in which he released a 13 minute video to Instagram and TikTok explaining why or

giving some additional reasoning behind their breakup including you know like all like the text

and call receipts he was trying to make it seem like there was so much more that you guys

in C on after the final rose and I wasn't as bad to her in lacking of communication as she made it seem. Yeah. Within that 13 minute video, he explained himself. He also revealed some very personal text

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and so therefore he thought oh that part I need to edit out of course I mean like yeah yes but the humor in this is that he just thought that that was the one part he needed to edit and it wasn't just the whole 13 second video so he deleted it 13 minutes

sorry he deleted it and he reuploited it without that screenshot in it but still thought after releasing the video and getting probably some feedback, enough feedback for that people watched that screenshot slideshow in detail enough that they caught that. And then he was like, yeah, I'm going to upload that video all over again.

There's this level, I think, now, we've seen it a few times in Bachelor Nation where people upload personal conversations, text messages to the public. Most notably Blake and Caitlin. Sure. Yeah. And I think, you know, I see this and I understand why they're being, I understand why they're being posted because it does feel like the receipts.

It does feel like your truth. It does feel like it's what you have to prove that, hey, the story that you're hearing isn't maybe the full story. I understand the urge and the desire to post those. However, I do believe those are private conversations. I do not think they should be posted to the public. However, they are used in the court of law. So for whatever reason, if we have a scenario where somebody has to go to trial, typically phone, email, all those records are presented.

And so I know why people are doing it. In this case, specifically, it was inappropriate. There was no reasoning for it. and the text messages didn't prove anything. In fact, I'm still confused after watching this 13-minute video on what Devin is exactly trying to prove. I don't know what his...

I think he's trying to prove that he wasn't as bad as what it seemed on national television. However, most of the things said during the final episode were proven to be true based in these text messages. Yes, there was a ghosty. Yes, there was a lack of communication. Yes, there was kind of a giving up. It felt like sentiment from this video.

All I want. And really, Devin didn't have to apologize or come public with any of this. And I know he wanted to to clear his name and try to get back in the good graces, even though I think that was probably impossible at this point. I want, when somebody tries to do this, Sydney, for example, Devin here as of recent, I just want authenticity. I don't want you to throw anybody else under the bus. I don't want you to try to pit it, me versus them.

I don't want this tongue and cheek, hey, I'm not trying to hurt Jen here, but I'm just trying to get, you know, my words out. I don't want any of that. I want the ownership and what you had to do with the failure of this relationship. I also want the authenticity of saying, I am sorry for how this went down. I could have done better. And then we all say, hey, I've been there too. I get it. We move on.

But this new kind of trend of when you get, you know, when something bad happens to you in the public and your only way out is to blame somebody else or to try to bring them back into the controversy, one, it's not right, it's not healthy. And it typically leads to really destructive behavior, which this 13 minute video was. It did nothing to help him. There is nothing about this. I'm sure there's a few trolls on Instagram. They're like, I get it, Devin.

I'm on your team. For the most part, this did nothing to help him. I just think it could have been done so much better. I'm wondering where ABC's at and all this. I'm hoping ABC is sitting there saying, as a publicity team, saying, hey, Devin, let's sit down and talk. Like, you want to get your story out? Can't stop you from doing that.

However, here's some ways that we would advise you to do that in a healthy way to not hurt. you, Jen, or anybody else. But it seems like he had nobody he was talking to. And it has nothing to do with the show. So I don't even think he would need to get approval. Obviously, he didn't need to get approval to pose that because it's all about what happened in the summer.

It's just I need to know what was going through his head. And who he showed. Did he show anyone that video beforehand? Because that could have like had some editing that needed to be done. That is a video that like, I'm sure he put it together himself. But I also wouldn't have been surprised. if he had like some friends around him being like yeah yeah this is a good move like somebody had to encourage it i just can't imagine him in his own power yeah he's like i'm going to post this 13 minute

video without telling anybody else he needs like a group of advisors now around him like he needs two or three of his close friends that i hope he has yeah that he that i hope he has being like hey here's what i'm thinking what do you guys think of this decision and for them to not just think of what Devin wants to hear, but what he needs to hear, which is, hey, don't do it. Like, stay, don't do that. Be authentic, be genuine. And that's about as far as you should go. Like, that's, that's it. Don't try to bring Jen back into it. Don't definitely don't show private conversations for the, of the two of you. That's not going to help anything. That actually is just like wrong, especially at this point. And just try to keep moving forward and become a little better man.

learn from this. There's a lot of learning that can be done from this. But it, right now, that learning doesn't seem to be taken place. Has posting receipts ever worked out in the favor of the person posting the receipts?

Or do people always just think like, oh, that was such an invasion for, Clayton. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. But no. Because he called her bad things in there. And then he, he,

his winning was winning the paternity test but I think him posting the receipts of the text messages never helped and made him just look she may have looked pretty crazy but that was also in the long run when we were proven that she

well was crazy because she made up the fact that she was pregnant but he didn't look good in those texts and it had nothing to do with him being proven innocent at all. Yeah I don't know I don't have many examples, but I don't also know many people doing this.

So there's only a select few. Did Blake look better or worse? You're posting those texts between him and Caitlin after that paradise? I don't think it helped him. No, I have 100%. People don't like it. And it just feels invasive. It is invasive.

I shouldn't be reading what the two of you have said to each other. Like I should not be, especially when it comes to... A romantic relationship. Yeah, I should not be reading that. Like, you guys should keep those between you and you can tell me, hey, you know, it felt like in our relationship. We went through seasons of excitement and then we went through a really bad season. Then we went through a season where I didn't feel like we could talk anymore because our communication is off. I just don't, I don't need to read your conversation on how you got there.

Yeah. Half the time text messages don't make sense to me anyways. I'm not good at that. I just will never understand what he was thinking and doing that. No, I can't either. But I do understand the internal frustration that you go through with like a storyline on TV doesn't come across the way that you feel like you lived it and that you like think that you have proof that it was otherwise. So like that desire to put it out there, I do understand the desire. But like you need to let your PR brain just win out in that situation.

Well, I think the PR brain or just there's a lack of maturity. this is an immature act. This is something that, like him at 30, whatever, and a middle schooler at 13 are doing the same thing. Yeah. Like, this is, this is an act that was immature. It should be, you should take two steps up and say, as an adult, I refuse to do this.

No matter what it will look like, or no matter what kind of heat, right? you and I have both sat in seasons within this whole show where we're like, you know, it'd be so much better if everybody just knew the actual truth. And we could, you know, you're like, I have the truth. But you have to take a step back and you have to say no, but this is like, that doesn't matter to me. The winning here isn't a thing. I just have to move forward and take a little bit of the heat, get kicked a little bit. Maybe that person gets kicked around a little bit, but we'll all move forward and it's going to be okay.

Yeah, and the audience will forget in that moment, it's just like your whole life. I think the audience had already forgotten. I think she brought it right back up again. I think the audience were like, I'm just excited to watch Joan. And now all of a sudden, Devin's back in the headlines.

Hey, you know, you probably think differently than me. You probably think, like, no, you go back to your regular life and you do whatever you were doing, your job seemed to be working for you. But if I just think that if you really wanted You just go on paradise, dude, and then you make sure that you're not dumb again. Yeah.

And, you know what? People also love to hate a villain. So, like, you'll get your ego stroking. Either way. We love a comeback story. Imagine that you're on an airplane, and all of a sudden, you hear this. Attention passengers. The pilot is having a...

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Actually, before it got announced publicly, I would like to make a public statement to Katie to say, hey, I just want you to recognize that Ashley and myself both respect to your request to keep this private. Even though I wanted to share it so bad because it is so exciting. And we are excited for her. Former Bachelor at Katie Thurston is engaged to Jeff R. Curry.

After less than one year of dating, she explained this a little bit to us in person. It's just the right person for her to kind of close out the headline, Ashley. I started following her now fiancé on Instagram yesterday. He has $1.5 million. He's a big deal. He's hilarious.

Yeah. I will say his Instagram is hilarious. It is a good follow. His act is awesome. His way of communicating with the audience is brilliant. I've loved just kind of scrolling through his videos after the last day. So I'm excited for Katie and Jeff. She's been on, I'll say this, she's been on a wild dating journey on the show and after the show.

And it's cool to see her now coming out, not coming out of it, but coming through it into a place where she seems so happy. It's so crazy how like, yeah, it's been eight months, but I feel like we were just speculating about her. and Blake possibly getting together, like yesterday. Remember, because they've been seen at events and stuff? Sure. And they had that whole Bachelor in Paradise thing last year. And then she had F Boy Island. Look at her dating history in just the past the year.

Wow. So, yeah, she was so cute at Alon's wedding. We were, you know, when everybody was saying their hello. She was like, hi, I'm good. I'm engaged. She was showing her finger to everybody. She's like, it happened a couple days ago. In Hawaii, it happened on a secret beach

in Kauai, Hawaii on August 26th, and they have been having a long-distance relationship, but that will be coming to an end soon because she's going to be moving to New York City in early 2025, and she confirmed the, she confirmed their relationship, actually, just recently is in May, but yeah, when you know, you know, and they're so excited to spend forever together. And this is like kind of cool because this is one of those stories that if it weren't for the Bachelorette, who knows if this would have happened because she got into comedy to start doing stand up because of her Bachelorette notoriety. And now she found her, her boo through the comedy circuit. It's really exciting.

Really happy for Katie. And if, yeah, if you're kind of bored today and you want to get a laugh, go follow her fiancé on social media. Carly Waddell opens up about undiagnosed health issues. She finally said this, I finally have answers. So she has been dealing with something that's even affecting her voice. And if you've been following Carly at all in the past like year or so, she's really been focusing on music. She was opening up for Nick Carter on tour, which is really cool.

But she said she finally went to the E&T, ear, nose and throat doctor, after over 20 years of having episodes where my throat seems to completely close up for a good 30 seconds. That is so scary. And why did it take you 20 years to do that? Garley? She said, it used to happen only a few times a year, but in the past few years, has happened as much as three times a day. Scary, not only for me, but anyone around me when this happens, because it seems like, because it looks like I should be doing, somebody should be doing the Heimlich maneuver on me, while tears streamed down my face, and I am gasping to breathe she has spasms in her throat that bring her to like these undiagnosed asthma

seasonal allergies and even acid reflux it's what it this these spasms are brought on by asthma allergies and reflux and they also happen to women more than men sometimes more often um with the women that have anxiety because they tend to be hidden the kin in a way um So, yeah, that's what she's going through. That's really scary. That's really, really scary. I didn't know she was opening up for Nick Carter on tour. Oh, yeah.

Is that cool? That is cool. Good for her. The, I think I saw this week, Ashley, tell me if I'm wrong, her former, her ex. Evan has a new girlfriend. Has a new girlfriend, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't really know why Evan's even making it.

That's pretty crazy that Evan would make a headline, but I saw that as well. We feel like. I'm like not trying to be shady, but. Well, I think, you know, there's some shade there. Okay, fine. But it feels like Carly has a lot to talk about right now. I wonder if she'd be willing to come on and talk about, obviously, this new diagnosis, along with the really exciting conversation of what is going on with Evan. And then Carly has a boyfriend?

Oh, yeah. Carly did talk to us about her. Well, she teased that she had a boyfriend last time she was on. Okay. And they've been together for, I want to say, a little bit over a year now. I think it's serious. I think they're going to get engaged. We will see.

But yeah, we should talk to her about this. This is, this health issues. Evan has had other girlfriends in the past couple of years. You just jump from health issues to Evan again. You can't get Evan off your mind. No, just like, I don't know. If he was dating like someone relatively like insolivority, you know, like if he was dating like an influencer or like somebody who is famous, I could see it making headlines.

Evan Bass has a new girlfriend? I don't know. He's definitely dated since they broke up. Oh, goodness. Well, that's all the headlines for you today. Again, I said it. I thought we got some big headlines. Obviously, we just talked about Carly. The Devon 13-minute wild video along with Katie Thurston getting engaged. There was just a lot of headlines here to run through and a lot of things to talk about. I want to make it clear. I think Grant is. our next bachelor, and until I am proven otherwise, I'm going to believe that, and I think he's going to be a great bachelor. I think, though, these rumors are always worth bringing up because how embarrassing would it be if we never talked about it? We never even brought it up, and then all of a sudden, this little weird rumor becomes true. It would be so embarrassing for us. So embarrassing to not be on top of things. Also, his season's set to start within the next week so it would be a really last minute change and happy 10th anniversary to me being part of

the bachelor franchise because it's this week it should have been a headline 10 years ago that it all started that I pulled up in that limo and I was like that is the most handsome man I've ever seen yeah just to be clear Chris Souls was her bachelor not me yeah um hey until next time I've been Ben I've been Ashley's See ya. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcasts on IHartRadio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle.

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