The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelor Recap with Zachary Reality

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

Zachary Reality is weighing in on Grant's season and all of the latest drama with the ladies. From who he thinks is boring and uptight to who has longevity and is really the biggest villain, he's sharing his thoughts on everything and predicting who will make it all the way to hometown visits.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in... I guess they would be Kenspiracy theorists. That's right.

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What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before we begin the recap, we do want to say that we are thinking and praying for Katie Thurston, who came out this weekend with an announcement that she has breast cancer. She's in the midst of it right now, planning her treatment process. She will have to undergo chemo, unfortunately.

So we're going to do a whole episode on breast cancer. Early detection, what to look out for, anything we can find out about Katie's case. We, of course, want to have her on at some point whenever she feels comfortable to talk about her specific case. But until then, we just want to make sure that everybody out there is getting the information. that they need because this is affecting women of a lot of a younger age these days. Katie is 34, and it's becoming less and less shocking to hear of a 34-year-old having breast cancer. Normally, it would be something that you would think of as 40s and plus.

That's when they tell you to start getting your mammograms at 40, and I'm thinking that earlier is probably better now. But yeah, so we're going to have a doctor on later this week to talk about breast cancer whole episode. We are so, so sorry. And we were thinking about Katie. We're praying for every day. Really hope that, you know, but if anybody is going to, like, kick cancer's ass, you know, it is Katie Thurston. Like, this girl is a strong, tough woman. And we're behind her and giving her all the love and support we possibly can send. This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast with IHartRadio.

Hey everyone. Welcome to the almost famous podcast. It's Ashley and Ben is still out on paternity leave. So we are here with Zachary Reality to recap this week's episode of grand season. Hey, Zach. Hello, hello. I feel like I'm in the right place because I am like so Bachelor Nation strong. I love the show. I love the franchise. So I'm so excited to chat all things with you. And you told me off Mike that you love this season. So we are a little bit in a disagreement here. But I love that there are people who. love this season. Why is it that it's got you? I love the girl drama and the girl competition. All of these girls are so fabulous. I feel like every week I get to know them better. And I think that's why the show gets better as it goes along because you actually get invested as time goes on. So now four episodes in, I know everyone's name. I feel so confident going into the final seven. We have our key players left. So I think we have a good group and we have good drama. After this episode, who do you think is going to hometowns? Because that is right around the freaking corner. It's either

going to be not, of course, next week. But you think it's going to be the following week? You think we're going to eliminate three girls next week? I kind of do for some reason. I feel like this is a shorter season, but I don't know. I hope not. I was actually hoping Parisa would stay and that just Natalie would go because it feels like the girls are going so fast.

But I think for hometowns, I definitely see Juliana, Latia, Dina and Alex in the top four. Okay. I would agree that this episode probably there's always one episode like this kind of trimmed the fat you know the three obvious people to go home were the ones that went home yeah but rose was unexpected because she was like over it and they worked through it

and then she just like maybe processed things a couple days later went off on carolina spiraled and left like it was just so shocking and sudden it was interesting but i still think she would have been the last one to be eliminated i just don't think they got there yet comparable to the rest of the girls that are remaining. Okay, so let's go through the episode. Group date number one is Dina. You know, before that group day, all we see is them, you know, finding out that they're going to Madrid.

It's the day after the prom rose ceremony. And people are still feeling not so great about Carolina having taken time. But we're focused on Dina now. they do the classic they do the classic Spanish trip this is what they do every time they go to Spain

the kids play soccer there's like dancing in the streets what else do they do on their date there was one moment that I was like oh that's actually

kind of cute they were just kind of viving all day they ride a little boat it was the boat that's nice yeah and that night

she was talking about how she's one of 11 so she has a lot of siblings and then with her parents they were 13. So she was just talking about how she had to kind of overcome feeling like she had to prove herself, I guess.

Right. And I just, I really like, I went from, okay, if you listen to the podcast, you kind of know that like, I just didn't think that he had it with Dina. I thought she was also kind of hanging by a thread. Actually, I was definitely wrong. She is different than the rest of the girls. She is intimidating, like she says that she often comes across to people. but you can tell she's truly smart

she's a lot to her and I think he thinks it's really sexy the way that she's like this strong independent woman Yeah but I also didn't see that much of a connection between them as well I feel like she could end up being more of a friend and I don't think that

he's going to end up picking her she also was a little boring Okay interesting I like the way that we're on different pages here I also don't think that they're going to end up together I'm not even sure she'll be Final Four. But I think that he's very intrigued by her. I think she's different than anyone he's ever dated.

And they have this interesting conversation where he says that she reminds him of his mom. But he's spoken about his mom and not he loves his mom. He definitely, you know, thinks that she's a great woman and so grateful for everything that, like, she's, she did for him and his sister. but he definitely says that his mom focused too much on work was too focused on the provider element and I think that he when he says that you remind me of my mom he's thinking about that too and then they have this discussion over like

I can take care of you, you take care of me like we have like we're both equals in this providing element of the relationship would you think about this conversation? Yeah I mean I definitely feel like picking Dina would be like stable and she seems responsible like she seems like she'll be a great responsible he's going to be a great wife and mother but i just don't think that she has that like adventurous spirit and like maybe she does because the fiery side of her kind of came out

in the coming attractions um for next week she said that she went to europe three times during the summer do you remember that from last week and i didn't even remember that but there's just something a little like boring about her where she seems like a little like uptight for him i don't know I agree. I understand this. Like, I don't, yeah, I don't see this happening, but but she's more of a contender than I thought she would be. So back at the house, the girls are speculating if she's going to come home with her, Rose or not, like most people think she is.

And the date card says that Alex, Latia, Carolina, Natalie, Rose, Parisa, Zoe, Juliana would be going on a wild ride. This means that Serafino will be getting the one-on-one date. during this home portion you can already see people are chirping about carolina and her complaints what's your take on carolina's complaints thus far because from what i feel like we've seen she i interpret it as she is insecure that she went on a date with him she really liked him she came home and she was like oh my gosh now i have to see other people date him and everything was worry worry and her doubts are more of like doubting this process like this process is crazy

how am i actually supposed to know if i can get engaged to this guy i don't hear her coming up with doubts about his character are we missing something i think she's oversharing to the group i think these are things oh well i agree that these are things you need to keep an interview like this is what you tell your producers when you're in the confessionals this is not what you share to the girls. I think she thinks that everyone, I don't know if people are asking her questions and she just really wants to just share all. But I feel like she's oversharing. She should be keeping her cards closer to her chest. And I think that's going to be her demise is that she is letting everyone know her business. And I think that's where she put her

foot in her mouth one too many times and why she's rubbing people the wrong way. Because like she's realistic and she's skeptical, but she's just like being too aloof with like her information. This is so true. Yes. These are things. that you write in your Bachelor diary and that you tell your producer, but why are you telling the girls that you have any sorts of doubts? Because everybody secretly has the doubts,

but you say out loud and it's going to not be a good look. All right. So let's get to the group date and we'll talk more about Carolina later. So the group date's actually quite fun. It's a bull riding contest. And Alex comes up with this way

to really grab onto the bull by the horse. She took the bull by the horns and she rides that thing well. And of course, Zoe takes up her, her, you know, her theory. And she ends up beating her out with this. And I do not believe that she actually beat her in this competition. I think Alex deserved it. But it wasn't as if they really even got much of a reward for winning this. So I guess it wasn't that big of a deal. It was like a sunset champagne moment. It probably was like an extra 30 minutes. let's say you know what you're right it was it was i forgot about the sunset champagne and those moments are they're critical when you add them up well zoe i think is really strong like she was a wrestler she has muscles and i think riding the bull is about like staying tight to it so i think that's why she won and zoe is beautiful as well i mean she's stunning and gorgeous zoe she's stunning but she's also like been a little bit like high maintenance too and a lot of drama so i think it'll be interesting if she makes it to hometowns

because she has been a roller coaster this season. Yes, I don't know if she will. But she was one of my first guesses to make hometowns. Who the heck knows? Her character is all over the place because they were villainizing her last week in the week before. And now all of a sudden,

she's just kind of one of the girls. No one's complaining about her. Well, Carolina has took up that spot and is really taking over the show. I mean, I'm sure she's going to go home next week. It's going to hit it all. all-time high, but she's giving us a lot of material. Where do you think she ranks in Bachelor villains? A Carolina? I think she's a nothing villain. I don't even think she's a villain.

I think she's partially being a little bit misunderstood. We will get to the, and I guess you're right, this takes part at the after party, the bull riding after party. Carolina and Juliana have their big confrontation here. I didn't like this. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't. trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just want her gone now hold up isn't that against school policy that sounds totally inappropriate well according to this person this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age and it's even more likely that they're cheating he insists there's nothing between them i mean do you believe him well he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet so do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not to hear the explosive finale listen to the

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Right. But I thought that Juliana seemed to be a little bit villainous in this moment. she was like do you feel that because she was like you are making everything about you like your doubt but then it was the doubts she's like why do you keep talking about your doubts and and um i'm like just because the girl's expressing her doubts doesn't mean that she's not appreciative of the time that she had she's not saying man i wish i didn't have that time with grant she's saying i have doubts about the time that i had with him um and she's doubting the process which like you said she should be saying to somebody else or in her bachelor diary so it's a weird move

to be talking to the girls about this but she's technically not being not appreciative she's just being thoughtful am i crazy our producer here is giving me support. She texted me in the chat. She goes, she agrees. Yeah, there's a difference between not appreciating time, which is what Juliana is accusing her of and being doubtful of the time that she's had with him. Go ahead, Zach. Well, it was just so weird. I love the key moment of the night was when Carolina said, what is your question? So what's your question? Because Juliana, no one asked for your opinion. And I do think that Juliana was like kind of speaking a little bit of facts of some frustration that her and some of the other girls have had about

Carolina. But ultimately, like, it's really not your business to pull her aside and tell her what you think about her when she didn't ask. And are you trying to help her? Are you trying to give her advice? Or are you just trying to, like, let your feelings off your chest? Because other than that, go to confessional. Go to save it for the women's hell all. Like, there's no point of pulling her aside if you're not trying to help her. So it felt like she was trying to, like, corner her. And she did look like the villain in that situation. Oh, you did. Okay. You thought so. Okay, good. I'm team Carolina. But I, the internet is. siding with Juliana.

Your team Carolina. Okay. Yeah, I've been team Carolina. Even last week with the Rose stuff, I've been riding with Carolina all season. Okay, yes. So, again, if they're annoyed at her taking up time, there's been times where we get it. But last week, I think she had every right to go up to him and say, hey, so this girl, Rose told me that when you were like dirty dancing with me, you were. thinking of her of course she's going to she's going to confront him about that that is

legit and then this episode the turnaround on that we will get to that in a minute but i just want to just to focus a little bit more on the juliana conversation it was bizarre because juliana who has i think really tried to be very likable and put together she showed some cracks in this conversation to me she seemed to get great joy out of telling grant that carolina was being a problem in the house and she definitely from what we've seen exaggerated what um what she's been saying because she was like she's had doubts about you she's talking about how she's not sure about you we as an audience haven't seen it so who's in the wrong here is juliana making this up or are the producers or the editors

not showing us important stuff to the storyline which has been our theme on this podcast all season long are we missing something because the puzzle pieces aren't fitting there's off-camera conversations it was alluded last week when Rose and Carolina

that key point happened off-camera I think the girls are talking in the bunks at night in the bathroom or at night maybe like when they're sleeping like do you think they're probably telling each other how they really feel and I think they're testing their friendships

and testing who will bring what to air I mean Rose said this week like I would never have brought that to air so there seems to be some miscommunication I kind of believe Juliana and I do think she has Grant's best interest I also think she's a major frontrunner she's actually my winner pick

Carolina is still your winner pick no Juliana is my winner pick oh Juliana I think there's room for Juliana to recover from this misstep that she had this week I don't think that Julianna has misstepped in Grant's eyes. Right.

It seems like he's still very much, like, does not. He said that I respect you more after you coming to me and airing this out, which was usually Bachelors won't say that about somebody who is being the rat, you know? Oftentimes, you know, we got to say what we got to say. But usually those people don't get all the way and are barely ever said. like i respect you more for coming to me and telling me this right but so what happened on the group did is after juliana and carolina's misstep um grant came back and he kind of interrupted when they were talking to the girls and the group um do you remember and then grant pulled carolina

aside because he noticed that she was crying and then he didn't hand out the group date rose oh yes so this is going to make the girls dislike carolina even more because grant pulled her aside now she's getting even more time and then no one gets a rose so now they all feel like they got punished. Yes, you're right. Well, this is all above, you know, these are all God's hands at work.

These are the Bachelor God's hands at work. Of course, Carolina's going to be the last one to talk to him and therefore it's going to seem like she's the one to blame. All right. Well, then let's go on to the one group, the final one-on-one before we get into the real nitty-gritty with Carolina at the end of the episode. This is with Serafina. They go bungee jumping. And every time they do a bungee jumping day,

I contemplate whether it seems fun or I could never do it. I would never do that in my life. I don't want to jump off a bridge. I don't want to jump out of a plane. I don't like roller coasters. But Serafina, she was fearless. See, I think I would do it over water on the bachelor, not in life, but on the bachelor as a bonding over loving. experience like if they had me and jared go back and do like an episode i would do this with him he actually did it with claire so that makes it quite weird he did it over water with claire they do it almost every single season they do the bungee jump and you know there's bachelor trivia for you there's one girl who did not do it on her one-on-one date when she was supposed to jump out of a

bridge do you know who it is no who good trivia from one pablo season her name is chelsea she refused to She jumped off the bridge. So they just changed the date. They just didn't do it. Did he get annoyed? I don't think so. Not really. Oh my gosh.

That's so, that's such good trivia. I was thinking of like last night. The reason I thought of that was because I would never jump off a bridge. If I was Serafina, like I would be like, I'm not doing this because that it seems so scary, but she was so fearless. So I really commend her for that. What I thought about was like the fact that you're going down head first, you know,

and then your head hangs upside down. That seems to be the worst part. heart. Like when they did the jump in Vegas, that seems like something I would definitely do on a bachelor day, but never voluntarily do. This is just like, does this actually hurt? You know, and would I rather go skydiving or bungee jumping? Which one seems more dangerous? With this team, this woman that was conducting the bungee jump was making me nervous, right? Oh yeah, but I feel like they were told to do that. Right now, definitely. They're like play along. Yeah, because there's no way. and the safety.

Because Serafina just wasn't sweating. Like most people would at least be nervous. They would have to work through it together. Like she was just so tough. She was like, okay, let's do it. And Grant was a little nervous,

but it could have been way more dramatic. So Serafina to me is the girl that got this week's date. And we'll get through to next week, but then, you know, be eliminated before hometowns where it's like, oh, did we waste that one-on-one?

You know, like they have a nice, a nice friendly connection. I don't see a great love here. What about you? Well, you know, the highlight of the date is when Brandt was like, you know, I feel like you're holding back when I try and kiss you. And she's like, yeah, my mom's watching.

My mom is watching. So I don't know. It was the best. So that's where it's interesting because it's like, yes, Serafina seems behind some of the other girls. It seems a little forced the connection. But is she just holding back because her mom is watching? Was that just a joke?

or is she just holding back because she's on TV? So there might be more to Sarah Fina to be explored, but it definitely seems like she's behind, even after this date, like she's not going to be a frontrunner, the top three. No, I don't think so either. She does talk about how she was embarrassed to be growing up for with a single mom.

She feels that she missed out a lot on a lot. And like, she said that she was sad to have a traditional wedding because she didn't want to not have anybody walk her down the aisle. And that was very sweet. I mean, you know, sad, but like that was a nice little vulnerable moment. And, um, you know, she looks like charity. I like her. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I'm like, this girl is exactly charity. And you know who, you know, Alex, she looks just like Michelle, too. You think Alex looks like Michelle? Alex with an E. Okay. Because Alex has been, I look at her every week and I go, who do you look like? She looks so.

much like someone, I'm not sure if it's Michelle. She has Michelle-like quality, for sure. But Serafina is charity. Right. No, for real. I really like Serafina. She seems sassy and fun. She did make one rude comment this season when she was saying that Zoe's dress was too short.

Right, right when she walked away. Yeah. That was weird. That's kind of like, isn't that a rude comment? Yeah, that's not a comment that we make in today's day and age. But then again, we do. Do you what I mean? Like, that's like the kind of that you're not going to say on camera

because you're not going to be like the anti-feminist girl. You're not going to be the one that's putting women down, right, for their clothing choices. Will you whisper about it in the bathroom? Possibly. Right. So she'll probably have to clarify that at the women tell all.

But, I mean, she got the rose, so she's in the top seven. I can't believe there's only seven girls left. Yeah, I know. So crazy. Okay. So let's get to the rose ceremony. Will the cocktail party rose ceremony? the most juicy part of the entire night. So I first wanted to just say, because I got a little comment from our producer here,

she goes, when Juliana was talking to Grant earlier in the episode, she was smiling ear to ear when she was talking, she's like, you know, talking about Carolina. Why was she delivering it with such a joy and such pride? I don't know.

I really, that was weird. And I think that's going to, I'm going to think about this a lot when it comes to Juliana in the future, especially next week when she looks to get the one-on-one. I think she just really thought she was right. I think she really wanted to tell her side of the story because she didn't get to. She had to wait like two days, right?

Because the group date ended so abruptly. She had to wait two days because the group day. Oh, that's right. Yes. Because she actually, I was talking about this before. This is actually the top of the episode that he talks to Juliana for her perspective. I'm sorry, I got that mixed up. Yeah.

He's talking to her at the top of. of this cocktail party. The cocktail party, yeah. Yeah. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

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even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast

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Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcumper podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHHHHHHH Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, so this is when Grant says that Carolina, the situation is been bothering him a lot. He's saying he doesn't know how he feels about Carolina and it's concerning after what Juliana has told him. So then he pulls Carolina aside and says that it's been hurting him to hear that she's questioning this this whole thing that he's developed a soft spot for her after their one-on-one because you know she revealed about the fact that she has

epilepsy and he said that he wanted to take care of her really really sweet and then she said it's very fresh rain to hear all this she says that it's more normal to have doubts and questions after so this is such a good point it's more normal to have doubts and questions about somebody that I went on a first date with, than to just be like, hey, I'm going to marry him tomorrow. And I'm like, yes, Carolina, exactly. She's speaking facts. It's always the person that brings realism to the show that gets villainized.

Right. Well, it'll be interesting if Carolina makes it a hometowns too. And then that becomes a conversation with her family. Yes. And it probably will because it's always a quite, the family's always like. this process seems kind of weird. Isn't it weird to get engaged

to somebody you've got on two dates with? And, you know, I'm sure they're just going to echo her feelings. And then Grant says that it's unfair if he goes into a date and doesn't give 100% of himself. Carolina says she doesn't have a lot of hope going to tonight. She feels defeated.

And then we have this moment between Dina and Carolina where Dina says that she knows that she's been, being misunderstood. Dina's crying on behalf of Carolina. She's saying, I see you. I see you. And they have this hug. And you've, if you've been like watching really carefully, you can see that the two of them do have this friendship throughout the house. I think it's going to end next week because Dina has this moment with Carolina by the stairs. And she's like, if you're going to go see Grant one more time, like you're out of your mind. Then she goes. Well, I guess she goes. And she goes,

and she's, I'm the crazy. I'm just crazy. Yeah. So I think their friendship is, going to end but I do think this is a sweet supportive moment for Dina and she is seeing what we see the girl was I can't get over the fact the girl was told last week that he was thinking of someone else dirty dance while dirty dancing with her that was an appropriate time to have alone time she is getting from what I go I know it's I just have to keep reiterating from what we're seeing i think she's getting the shit end of the stick i think the girls are being overly dramatic i think they're needed to come up with a villain so they're coming up with gregers so they're coming up with carolina uh so i'm glad to see her getting a little support in the moment from dina it's definitely one of

it's a good moment because it's nice that someone has carolina's back so it's not the entire house against her so it was a nice moment for dina but if carolina really burns dina next week like we're seeing in the coming attractions i mean that's her burning her last bridge and then she's going to have no one left but grant and he's probably going to send her home on an island and then she's going to have to confront all these girls at the women's hell all and that'll be tough for her as well so i'm rooting for carolina i think maybe where she missteps like i said earlier is just by oversharing and maybe being a little too emotional at times um other than that like she's had a lot up against her

yes we will um i will continue to give dina the i mean i will continue to give Carolina the benefit of the doubt until Dina doesn't. I feel like I am team Dina because she has her head on straight. Now, the craziest part of the entire episode to me is Rose and Carolina because she goes, I confided in you and then you use that information against me. Your actions set my relationship back. You sabotaged me. You did. You did me dirty, you backstabbed me. It was nutty. I was like, whoa, let's pull back for a minute. You told someone, hey, the guy that we're dating was thinking about me when you were straddling him. Okay. And you think that was an okay thing to say out loud to the person? And now you're going to

make her seem like the bad guy for wanting clarity on it? She's spiral. It was crazy bachelor stuff. The way when she looked at her, you did me dirty. You are out of your mind. Okay. Well, it was because it seemed like her and Grant smooth things over. They had a conversation about moving on.

Grant still kept her last week, even though he was mad at her. I thought they would have closure on the conversation this week and maybe clarify what was said and what wasn't. They really didn't dive into it. So that's kind of frustrating because he did say it. So Rose ended up getting dilatified. So you think that you think that he said it. So this is, this is a great conversation right here. Did he say it or did he or did she misinterpret it?

Well, I guess it's both. There is a clip going around where basically he said that he never said Carolina's name. He just said he was thinking about her while he was dancing. So it was more of a general statement. and it seemed like no one ever inserted Carolina's name into there except for Carolina or Rose. That's why the off-camera conversation is confusing.

So I'm wondering if like a lot of the missing puzzle pieces over this season has just been like them letting these girls chat un-miked too often. Too many bathroom conversations, too many, too many bunk conversations like you said. We used to be miced. If we were chatty at all, they were like, they came to us with our mics.

I wonder if they don't have a lot. But the weird thing is, I don't know. I think there's booms in every room where, like, they can at least show the footage from the top and, like, put close captioning underneath it. Like, I would love some close captioning, like, hidden camera stuff. I don't think they're doing that anymore. They haven't done that this season. Or maybe they've changed the wrong. rules recently. I don't think they're being as invasive with the filming. They don't show people

in the bedrooms anymore. Yeah. The bedroom conversations are key. They're gone. And I think that's why that's what's missing in the Rose and Carolina context and why we don't really know who is right until we get to the women tell all and see them hash it out. This happened last season, too, with Joey season. It was like, well, what was actually said? We need the footage. And I would always argue that, like, they had the footage. They just didn't want to give it to us because they wanted the narrative that they wanted to go with. Right. But I think with Rose, it's like, I think her relationship was set back because her and Grant were

not able to overcome that. And maybe you can partially blame Carolina, but like, what is she supposed to do after what you said to her off camera? Like, of course, she's going to bring it up. So Rose kind of did this to herself and she's blaming Carolina for her demise. And she spiraled and she went home and maybe she should have had a conversation with Grant about it, but it seemed like she just started crying and just needed to leave. Do you think there was more to that that was cut of her meltdown?

I actually don't. I think she just, like, probably knew it wasn't going to be her. She felt so behind. She's like, there's no catching up. I would rather take the power and be the one to leave than get dumped at the row ceremony. And I understand that. Dumping at a rose ceremony is, like, the ultimate demoralization.

Really? I feel like I would want to, like, get dumped at a rose ceremony because it's, like, part of the show. Like, it's like, you have to commit to it. all of my four seasons, I never left at a rose ceremony. I did technically in season three of Bachelor in Paradise, and then I came back.

Right. So, I don't know. I think that a lot of it, like, you know how, like, you want to be the person to break up with somebody when you feel like the relationships on the fritz?

It's just a way to bring back your power. So I don't know. I think that, I don't think there was much more to it other than the fact that she was, feeling very behind. But, you know, it was funny. I was thinking when she was like, I just want to go home, I just want to go home. I was like, of all my seasons, I never said I want to go home. I was like, I want to be here. There was a time on Bachelor in Paradise Three where I was like,

I should go home. Nobody wants, I think I should probably go home. That's different than I want to go home. I was like, I made a huge mistake in coming here. Anyway, all right, now I'm just reminiscing All right Well next week We see And like you said Yes

Perisa and Natalie go home To me that's not a shocking Thing at all Perisa in the rocks She probably had some hope Because he gave her a gift That she was going to stick around I'm sad for her

I wanted her one more week Really? She's so ridiculous But I'm sure she's not as ridiculous In her life You know They just made her Like the silly character

She was a little silly I'm sure The PowerPoint The Cout hat. The PowerPoint was definitely her silliest of things. Just her fashion. She was just always different.

Natalie was a little boring from the beginning and she just did not do anything. Natalie had the kid with the kids going on. You know, her being so good with the kids at the basketball game was her standout moment, I think. Got it. Natalie and Dina looked alike, in my opinion. I see that. I see that. So next week, they're going to Scotland.

Juliana's going to have her one-on-one. And we have the moment with Carolina on the steps where she said, what was the words that you said? You got it right. You did, I'm the villain. What Dina said, you did me dirty. I, uh, what Dina said to Carolina. If you're going to go. I guess I'm, I guess I'm crazy.

Oh, yeah. Call me crazy or call me insane. Yeah. because she's going to talk to Grant again. And that's why the girls are so mad at Carolina because she just monopolizes all the time. She just steals him the most. Yeah.

She's definitely going to go home next week. I don't think it'll be at a row ceremony. I think they're going to have some conversation and she's going to slip out the back door. It's going to be wilds. All righty. Well, Zach, thank you so much for joining us and tell everybody where they can find you

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