The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Bachelorette PTO with Jason Tartick

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

Ben is breaking down all the Bachelor headlines with guest cohost Jason Tartick!  We hear an update on engaged life with Kaitlyn Bristowe and Jason reveals some surprising details about their upcoming wedding! Plus, Ben and Jason share the stories of how they convinced their bosses to give them time off to go on The Bachelorette. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You don't meet a lot of people in life through random circumstances, especially a television show. you go, I like this guy. But I don't like this guy like his dad. And I really like his fiance. I think she's great. Jason Tardick is here to guest co-hosts with me today. Jason, welcome to the podcast.

That it is so good to be here. You're one of my favorite humans too. So thank you for saying those kind words. And I'm excited to be on, man. It's been too long. It has been too long. I think the last time I saw you in person was in Memphis, Tennessee at the St. Jude charity event with your dad was there as well.

which was awesome it was you me and wells and your dad i think that was all from the bachelor world that was in my missing somebody yeah no i think you nailed it and there's i mean there's a couple like different like actors and musicians and stuff which was a blast but are you running it back you gonna be back there the shit i'm out that weekend i'm not i'm gonna be in honduras that weekend i wish i was um i'm supposed to be in honduras here's the deal uh for anybody listening i've i've offered this up i'm going to honduras on a trip i'm leading it and so i've it's open invite like anybody can come. You go to Humaneityhop United.org and sign up. Here's the big

problem. And I'll just be flight costs are so expensive that I'm like on edge on doing it or not because they went from like 600 bucks typically to like $3,000 to get to Honduras right now. So I just don't know if we can do it. Like I just don't know if I can ask people to go down there for $3,000.

It's a lot of money. That is why. That's a huge. I mean, yeah, that increase makes sense. That's nuts. Yeah, so, but I'm supposed to be there. If I'm not there, I might be able to get back this thing. It was awesome. It was good to spend time with you. And like I said, your dad was awesome. Hey, Jason, you're obviously here to co-host with me today. But I want to talk right off the bat about your book and the projects going on. I mean it with all sincerity when

I say, you know, you and I come from similar backgrounds. You are a lot more accomplished in your work in your career than I was when I left it to kind of start my second chapter. But we have similar backgrounds. You've used it to coach and teach and share insight with others. And you've also done it through a book. So let's just catch everybody up on what you're up to and where people can keep, you know, keep diving into your knowledge. Yeah, for sure. So 10 years in corporate banking and I got an MBA in accounting and finance. And one of the things that I learned when I got this platform is there's just a huge discrepancy and the stuff that we need to know every day. Like, think about the stuff we have to do right we have to deal with taxes we have to deal with

inflation we have to deal with budgeting all these things were not taught anywhere in the school system nowhere to be found not my MBA program nowhere and so what I did was I created a company called the restart to really help like bridge that gap and from that Ben just like all this other stuff started coming up I created a podcast trading secrets we have all different people on from different industries to talk about money what they make where they make it where they've lost money so I joke around. I'm like, sex to call her daddy is like dollar signs to trading secrets. And then I have the first book out called The Restart Roadmap, Rewire and Reset Your Career. It's been a great start. We had four bestseller lists all about a roadmap to making sure you're on the career trajectory that you want.

And then have another book I'm starting to work on now that I'm up in the air, Ben. I'm curious of your opinion. It's going to be one of two things. I'm like doing a focus group. It's going to be either there's so many books about there and like small entrepreneurship, and small business. This is going to be like the handbook for employees, like how to be an employee and get rich. That's either or get wealthy, build wealth. That's one.

Or the other one is going to be the different intersections of the impact money has on love. So when you're single, things you have to prepare for, when you start dating, when you start moving in, getting married, planning for a wedding, and everything else, kids and stuff like that. So one of those two concepts is going to be the next book. I'm going to vote for both. That I'm not doing. I think the inner, like the life plan idea is one that is intrigued me.

And I think I shared this with you in Memphis. You know, I haven't been quiet about like kind of my struggles with envy or jealousy or feeling like, hey, I'm not doing what somebody else is doing in the world, not even from like our, you know, small little niche reality show. And one of the things that I love about trading secrets is people get on there and you push them and they also are open to be very vulnerable about their mistakes, their financial situations, because I found out, and this was before the show, right, before the opportunities for me kind of opened up. And before some of the businesses that I was able to create and work

on now were at all profitable, they were still struggling. I was still pouring money into them and trying to get them up off the ground, right? I found myself in a place where it was like, I don't know if I'm in a good place. I don't know if I am making the right next steps. I don't know compared to so-and-so if I'm missing out on a bunch of opportunities and income that I'm just blind to or saying no to. And what I love about trading secrets and I love about your platform is it kind of gives a look into some of the topics that have been taboo for so long. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't understand why these are topics and conversations we can't have. I think we've been a little conditioned to think we can't talk about money or where our success is. And what's cool is we've done

it at Trading Secrets, but I've recognized just because we have people from certain shows or their influencers or they're even investors like a guy like Kevin O'Leary. They'll talk about their money. But what we need to do is get more, you know, everyday individuals walking the streets to talk about it. So what I'm starting to this week, I'm starting to film, it's called Trading Secrets in the Streets. And so we'll be out there, just literally going up to people in all different cities and be like, what do you do? When you start doing it, what'd you make? What do you make today? How'd you get your raises? What do you think you'll make? Because this is information that allows us to navigate our lives and like figure out what we want to do and how we

want to do. Well, I think maybe the obvious question here, too, though, is for somebody out there. So when I was working my first job that I was at for five years, I think I capped out at like $40,000 a year. I think I started at $30. It was a fine job. But, you know, it was tough. It was tough to live in a big city, making $30,000 a year and trying to figure out how to do it.

Hell yeah. Really hard to figure out how to save anything. And also really hard to figure out how to have any fun. Like how to, you know, go out with my buddies or, you know, it was a weird season of life. So many people are in that season of life, and they're in that season of life when they're in their 40s and 50s and 60s because, you know, maybe their career of choice doesn't compensate them as much as others. So how does your platform and the interviews you're having with like the Kevin O'Leers of the world who can bathe in money, how does it relate to them? What can they get from it?

So, oh, okay. So, yeah, I think, well, one of the things is that they're believing in like the overall. overall mission, right? Like you get like a Kevin O'Leary. When I talk to him about what I'm trying to do, he's like, hell yeah, go talk to your family, go talk to your mom and dad about what their plan is for the next stage of the life. Go see how much they make. Like have all this out there and do it so that you can get more information for yourself, your family, and the people around you. But I think some of the people will be really surprised, right? Like if a Kevin O'Leary listens to an Arod and he hears about Arod Corp and how Arod the baseball player now owns a professional

sports team, he might start to say, wait a second, I should be doing things different. Or if you get someone like a really super successful, Rob Deirdek, who is making 125K an episode as a host, and then tells me how he negotiated his placement rights, his ad placement rights into MTV shows so that he would get 100% of it. And he goes from making 125k an episode to millions in episode. It starts to make anyone think twice. And even the cool thing about Rob Deerdeck, too, is he had a production company. production company was making nothing. He just had the entity that was doing like little stuff here there. He negotiated in his deal that every single TV show he hosted had to be produced by his production company. So instantaneously, when that deal executed, he turned that company into like

a $50 million revenue generating company. So I think like, you know, anywhere on the scale where you're at the, you know, the $30, $20, $10,000 mark a year and you're just thinking about the basics of finance, like where to budget and how to spend your money, there's something in for, in there for, for you. And even if it's like A-Rod, talking about how A-Rod, that dude has imposter syndrome when he's sitting in the owner's table because he's like, I don't belong here. There's some wild takeaways, which is kind of wild. Ben, remind me, though, because we did talk about this in Memphis. What was, when you talk about the job stuff and you're in like where you are today, what was the one thing or the biggest decision-making driver that had you end up leaving your past life

to do all the, you know, post-show entrepreneurial stuff. Yeah, it was a day, it was a moment. And I don't think it happens with everybody. Okay. So I had a weird life where I was selling a software, and I was working in the basement of this office building. And then on Thursdays, I had negotiated with my company that I would leave work at 3 p.m., catch a flight to L.A.,

and I would go and do my L.A. stuff or wherever the things had to be done for the TV show, because the show was my time on The Bachelor was airing during this. And I would fly and I'd go to LA and I would do all this red carpet stuff. I'd come back on Sunday nights and I would jump right back into my desk. And after a while, like I wanted it for the health care for a long time, right? I wanted it for the benefits. And I didn't know, you know, what this would look like for me long term. I was still up in the air on like, hey, is this going to, am I ever going to make money from being the Bachelor?

Uh, is there going to be in any opportunities that exist? I was not wanting to hedge my bets fully into me becoming like, uh, a self-starter of any kind yet. And I felt like I was living two double lives. I felt like I was faking it at one of the other. I wasn't, I wasn't benefiting. The two weren't benefiting from each other. The two were very separate lives. And I was getting tired. And so I remember sitting at my desk and I said, I need to just take a risk. And so my risk wasn't anything really that I thought was going to make me a lot of money. It was generous. So generous coffee was my first venture. And I said, I just want to try now to use my platform to sell as much coffee as possible so that we can donate it back to organizations. And if that's my

career for the next 40 years, I think I'm going to really enjoy that. Like, I think I'm really going to have fun with the idea of creating these new stories and building a business and fighting the good fight to try to build this thing up so that it can be an asset to these nonprofits. and so that was the final moment was I just know now that I'm I can't keep living two lives I can't keep exhausting myself I've got to find a way that when I'm at these red carpet events to have something to talk about that is benefiting me benefiting the world and also employing me and so that that was that was the first step was I'd break it down to say Jason that it was my my moment was I'm releasing releasing myself to place a bet on myself that I can be

creative enough to find the next step that's so cool and did you when because you were on the show right you were you were on the bachelorette and then you became a bachelor's did you have the same job both times like did they let you go both times they give you that break so a lot of people don't know this yeah so i was at the job for three years before the bachelor i went on the bachelorette and they gave me a sabbatical so just an unpaid sabbatical leave of absence and not knowing how long i was going to be gone So that ended up being about, what, two and a half months that I was out of work. I came right back. And that next Monday, after I got back, I stepped into the office.

Sam, it's a wild move. It's a crazy move. It's a weird move, especially when you work with a bunch of people who love the show and they're like, what happened, where have you been? What did you do? You must have been there a long time. And you're like, it's all a blur at that point. Like, you're not mentally back into reality yet.

And so you're kind of like. Yeah. And then I worked it up until I was the Bachelor. did the same thing for my time on The Bachelor and then worked at another year and a half after my time on the show. So what was that? There was like a six-month period

you went back to work and then started filming on three, six, and they let you go again. They let me go again. So here was something that no, I don't know if I've ever shared this publicly. I remember the moment that, so I got signed up by a lady that I worked with

to be on The Bachelorette. She was like, Ben, but this is very known. So like, Ben, you're not dating. You don't have any friends out here in Denver. You only work. like you need to do something cool with your life and so the bachelor was that thing left there came back to work and I started a sales job and so I was I was working in sales and when they asked

me to be the bachelor I said I'm not going to do it if my family doesn't think it's a good idea if my four closest friends don't think it's a good idea or if my job doesn't let me because, shocker, you don't get paid a lot to be The Bachelor. Like, I mean, you don't. It's a great income for me back then, a lot more than I was making. But it's not, you know, if you're going to quit your job to do it, it's a really scary. You can't retire. And so I went to all of them and I went to the CEO of my company and he said, no, you should do it.

You got to take a risk, bet on yourself here. And so the door is open when you want to come back. And so that's, I mean, one of the reasons I stayed there for a year and a half was the loyalty, just to them letting me do that. I was one of the only people I feel like on The Bachelorette, especially, who was going back to their job because what job is going to let you leave for two and a half months? That's a wild certain. The interesting, not many jobs, by the way, but one of the things for me is it was the exact opposite of you. Like, everyone in my life was like, what the hell you do it?

My mom and dad are like, no. My boss was like, he's like, I'm not approving this. So it ended up going to the president of the bank. He ended up approving it. all my friends were like what the hell are you doing like because i just took this i took this job from new york to seattle and it was like two months after i got to seattle that they invested some some good sizable money and they're like what do you do like no but that the president of the bank ended up saying you can go now when i got back from the show and i was thinking i was like

himming and hung about paradise uh that's when the entire company came down like listen you go to paradise there's this you're done it's over looking back i mean what was the reason why the president said hey you can do this uh well it was funny it's so funny because i was really trying to position because i had 24 pTO days and i was like i've already banked these because i just like rolled them over if i could get paid while going on the bat's right that would be perfect so they approved that but what happened was it went from my boss to the next boss to the next boss no one wanted to approve it so it ended up at his lap and the way i positioned it was pretty much like listen i've given

nine years of or nine, 10 years of everything I can do at this bank. You've asked me to move. I've moved four times. You've asked me to put this bank at the forefront. I've done it. I literally just need to do this for myself. I just need to give this a chance. And he read the memo. I wrote the whole memo in my book. And he just was like, I think he was like, I knew him too. I think he's like, this kid's a good kid. I like him. He's worked hard. Let him go. And then the director of HR, like the head of HR, I was told this that she's a fan of the show. And she's, stormed into his office was like, do you know what you just approved? And they had second guesses about it, but they ended up giving me the go. Oh, man, well, that's a huge deal.

What a relief. Hey, we're going to get more into this too. I want to tease this. Jason's going to stick around and we're going to have a very special episode. We're going to talk to Jason about everything when it comes to wealth, personal finances. I'm even going to get into the exciting stuff of, of tax, uh, taxes and tax savings and how you can benefit from that. And then also, uh, we're going to talk a lot about his book and, uh, the REITSART roadmap and, uh, his podcast trading secrets on a really special episode that will be posted, um, super soon. It's going to be great. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we're, and we're,

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Get in here! Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is The Deva of the People. The Deva of the People. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. That's us.

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That feels weird for me to say. I got married, which is a great thing, by the way. But how is engaged life going? Are you sick of talking about it yet? It's so funny. I was thinking about this on a run today. I was like, through life, there's so much like societal pressure of every next step from like when you're literally like enter high school, right? It's like, what are you doing high school?

You go to high school. Where are you going to go to college? When you're in college, when you're in college, what are you studying? Did you declare your major? What are you going to do for work? Get into work. You're going to move. You get a girlfriend.

You're going to move in. You're getting engaged. You get engaged. You get married. How many kids you can have. I feel like the societal pressures of like what the system like is driving for just doesn't stop. So we got engaged last May. And it was, I mean, it was everything.

It was such a beautiful moment. And it was awesome. But like you said, Ben, I think the questions about the wedding have, haven't stopped since day, second one of getting engaged. And we've had a, it's just been really busy for Caitlin and I, right? We've had, she was still hosting the show. She had a podcast tour. She had Dancing with the Stars tour. I was finishing the book.

I went on a book tour. she's actually in Canada right now. She's doing another wine wellness in women like business keynote speaking stuff, so a little different than her typical stuff. But we've just been so busy with stuff that obviously that makes planning a little bit more challenging. But the engaged life is great. Here in Nashville, Tennessee, things are good here. We got ramen and pinot. We're healthy. The older we get, the more we realize how freaking important that is, as we've seen some scares with our family and our family's friends. But things are going well, man.

Things are going well. How, when you cross into that moment of the married life is a guy that hopes to be there extremely soon, what's the biggest thing that changes? Like, number one? The way you see, I would say there is a, what I said yes to Jessica, it went from us knowing that we're going to be partners to being partners. and there's a different mindset I think we both have towards each other on, I want to say protecting each other, planning, working with each other to build a future together, whatever that looks like personally. I just think the biggest switch was when I see her, she is a part of me and I'm a part of her now. There's, you know, we're different people. We have different ambitions, different

goals in life. But when it comes down to it, we've made a commitment to be a part of each other. And when you're engaged, I didn't really feel that as much. I felt like we were pre-meadow counseling to kind of get ready for that moment. But when you step out of that room, you're like, we're married. Like, this isn't, like, you know, if everything goes well and God willing, we're married forever. Like, you are it for me. And I've found it, I thought, if I'm going to be honest, I thought I was going to be, that was going to be overwhelming for me a little bit.

I kind of got a little stressed out leading up to the wedding. Like, am I, how am I going to feel that next day or whatever? It's been really peaceful. It's been very exciting for me. And it's why I asked about engaged life. And I didn't ask about your wedding. You're going to get married when you want to get married and when it works for you too and all of that.

I really enjoyed the season of life that was engaged because it didn't have as much of the societal pressures as what I feel like now. Like, once we're married, yeah, kids. a dog a house like people start asking like what are the next steps the next steps the next steps the next steps I was really enjoying being in a season of life where it just felt like we could be a couple but know that we were committed to each other um but obviously we did we waited for a year and a half to get married so we had some time there yeah it's interesting because I somewhat relate to that especially like right after we got engaged like that and we took off like work and everything like that was such

a high like this is unbelievable like this is your forever you've both committed to it and now you got to like plan to cement that and I feel it's interesting because I feel that the pressure of planning and the wedding stuff is actually greater than the pressure of are you getting engaged as far as like volume like the volume of it and everyone's and I think I think also, too, it's the outpouring, really certain opinions about what it should be. Oh, you got to go do it here. You don't chintz on the flowers. You must have this.

You got to have this. You got to, like, all these things are like, oh, it like creates, like, absolute conundrum, just craziness. Yeah, it does. We got engaged. I don't think I saw Jess for, it felt like we, like, got engaged in separate. at the same time because then she just started wedding planning like her mom my mom and just went in a bunker and they just wedding plan then for like a year and a half and then jessica pops out on the aisle and i'm like hey this worked out thank you for doing all this i had a lot of fun um thanks

for the food and drink uh jason there's a headline later on we'll get to when it comes to your wedding i'm just warning you for that again jason's going to stick around here we're going to co-host a really special episode for best egg it's going to come out very soon i don't have the exact date yet but we're to talk and pick Jason's brain on everything that I think we all could benefit from, especially when it comes to finances and when it comes to planning for our future, no matter if you're a relationship, if you're single, if you're retiring or not. But Jason, it is the offseason here at the Almost Fans Podcast. It won't be the off season for long.

We do have a very special Bachelorette season coming up that we'll be talking about and breaking down. But we have headlines to run through. So let's jump right into them. Here's the first headline for you, Jason. If you don't know how this works, we're just going to comment based on our first reaction. But this is one we can celebrate. It's an easy one to get us warmed up here.

The Bachelor's Haley Ferguson and Ula Pauvvvv. Pauveh. Hockey star. Are married after Las Vegas wedding. This according to us weekly, Haley Ferguson and her sister were on the season of the Bachelor that I was a part of. it was a beautiful wedding in Las Vegas. They have been dating for a while. Here's an important side note. They got married at the

world, the resorts world, Las Vegas. Have you been there, Jason? I have been there. It's stunning. What's the big like inside scoop behind that, I've heard like the little trading secret is that Steve apparently Steve win. It's a rumor, so don't quote me. Don't make it for sure. But Steve Wynn owed this guy big time money, the guy who started Resort World. And the debt got clear. He never got paid. And I heard it was a vendetta, but it was also a dream of his.

And they created Resort World. And there was issues that Resort World looks so identical to win that Resort World at last minute had to like change some of their colors because there was actually a potential for a lawsuit. now jason who do you have to be in the world like i go golfing a lot i i gamble on the golf course uh it's like uh sometimes it's 20 bucks sometimes it's 10 bucks sometimes you know i come out on top not very often who do you have to be in the world to say hey you owe me money i'm gonna buy i'm gonna build a resort just to say screw you you have to be a big time foreign billionaire which is I believe what he is.

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to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Obviously, Bachelor weddings are something to celebrate. So I believe, if I have all my facts straight, that Emily was the maid of honor.

That makes sense, right? Emily is also in a relationship. I believe they are engaged to get married. I could have that wrong. Producers behind the scenes, if you don't mind fact checking that for me. But Bachelor ratings are a big deal. It's cool to see them both move on

and to something really special. I mean, they're marrying hockey players. That's a big deal. Yeah, I mean, they've clearly done well. I mean, they seem happy. Like, I've seen their Instagram, like their post when they gave. They both seem extremely happy. And I think her sister, what is her sister, Haley's sister name again?

Emily, okay, Emily, both on your seat, she ended up with, and I know this guy like the back of my hand. Carl's, I'm a big hockey fan. Her and Carl, that guy is like a stalion. I mean, he is a stud. He's one of the best, one of the best players in NHL. I think he has like a $50 million contract, like eight-year contract with the Vegas nights. I mean, the guy is a stud. So good for them.

That's great. A little interesting thing is when they're on my season, the big joke, and I think they overplayed it. I think obviously the show made it, but like they would never leave each other, right? They wanted to always be around each other. They never wanted to separate. They always wanted to live in Vegas. They had a bunch of like, I think they had like eight dogs when I went to visit their house

there like it was kind of the whole like spoof that these twins were so connected and i think they are isn't it interesting to think that they're marrying people uh from different countries uh they'll definitely probably not be living in the same city because there's no way these two guys are playing on for the same team uh long term so they really took a step out which is also cool to see kind of like that path now to them you know blossoming into um two humans that can still love each other and function in different areas. Yeah, I mean, I will say there's some, there is some

similarities there because the, just the hockey player mentality, hockey players are just cut from a different cloth. They are. And it doesn't matter what country you're from, where you're from, when you are born and raised and live in that locker room, it's just like, it's a different type of energy. And I think,

I think maybe, you know, they just, that's their thing. Ben, you know what? Maybe, I know it didn't work out with you guys, but maybe after they had everything Ben Higgins have to offer. They're like, you know what? I need a hockey guy. Yeah, I need somebody studlier, more athletic, wealthier,

cooler. I need a hockey guy. Would you throw down the mitts, Ben? Would you, if you're not like someone's talking and your team needs it, are you going to throw down the mitts on the line and go on a while? I've got three ACL surgeries underneath my belt, Jason. So I'm ready to fight whenever the

call is happening. Hey, Jason, there's been a lot of talk here recently. We've discussed a little bit on the podcast. I would love to just hear your personal insight into your story here. A lot of past contestants it feels like as of recent have speaking out against the show. Typically didn't happen, right? Now we have access to our social medias. We have access now to more media in general. But Matt James is a lead here who recently has come out with a book. And he is also criticizing the show for how they dealt with his relationship with Rachel. His quote is, according to E, Matt James

blames the bachelor for turning his relationship into a circus. Now, we all remember this became a really big issue and topic back in the day with him and Rachel. And then they went on the tell-all. And it didn't look like he and Rachel were going to get together at all. He came on the podcast a few weeks ago and said they actually left that live show holding hands, that they were good right after it. Jason, why do you think people today are feeling more of an angst and an upsetness towards the show than before? I don't know if it's been because they have the platform to do it now and they have people that will listen even when they are very removed from the show. Like, you know, back in the day, it just still like when we were on the show, like you

get all your interviews when you get off the show and after no one like really cared as much but with social media the drama continues and the ease of getting your opinion out there escalates at such a different level i mean i think because of it like i'm surprised the show hasn't done this you see the different drama out there right like there's a new thing every week like a couple weeks ago is blake and natasha going at it based on edits and you know then you obviously matt just had his book come out and And there's, you know, there's always something. The other day it was, you know, I made a comment and it's got headlines got picked up after Colton.

Colton I talked. There is, I'm taking a business approach here. There is so much value in the alumni of this franchise and almost nothing is done with it, which is fascinating to me. Because if you took these conversations and you took this drama in like a house where there's like a big brother snail, 24-7. And you had like a Natasha and a Blake have to go at it toe-to-to-to-with-this stuff

or some of these controversies or with the X. Like the stuff, it would be unbelievable entertainment. So I'm surprised there is, especially now, there's not anything taking some type of value from the franchise. But I think it's just because people now have a means of talking about it. And let's also talk.

Let's also bring this up. When anyone from the franchise talks about the franchise, especially things behind the scenes, all your levels of engagement go up significantly. And most people in this world are monitoring that. So not only do they have a forum to talk about it, but they also have engagement levels and reinforcement that the attention for those conversations behooves them in their personal, whatever it is they may are. trying to brand or bring to fruition. Yeah, you know, it was interesting when I was writing alone in plain sight, when we were having our initial meetings, the conversation came up as, do you want to do a tell-all?

Tell-alls do really good. They do really, like, they sell a lot. People are very interested in them. And I decided not to. One, I don't have a lot to tell. I feel like I could tell everything from my experience. I think my experience on the show was unique in the fact that it was pretty easy overall. there are some like moments that got ugly uh at the end because the end is always hard um you probably

have a lot to tell you're just too good of a guy to tell anything well yeah i think it would have been nice um but i get what you're saying is there is there is this level where like you know if i jump on the night and say hey i'm going to tell everything that i know from the show uh and i'm going to dig out everything i think people would be a lot more interested in hearing about that than me jumping on talking about my dog or talking about my wife or talking about um generous uh it is it there there is a value to that that i think began it is interesting the show hasn't taken advantage of it the show kind of just ignores it they don't even comment on this stuff anymore if you i don't know too much about like the um all all the different moving parts of everything with like i know a little bit about generous

and i know the book you that you wrote but going back to your original point if ben higgins wrote a tell-all book, it would be the number one book on, and like you got into the weeds with it, it would be the number one selling book anywhere. When Ben Higgins decides to write a book that's going to create impact based on some of the mental struggles you had and more of your life direction, it's just not going to sell. It's not as marketable. If I'm writing a book about rewiring your career, that will never ever sell if it was more of a bachelor-focused book. book and that's like where people in these worlds post show have to make decisions like which way are you going to go why are you going to go that way and understand like the good

the bad and everything that comes with yeah and you know I wonder too is there a way to navigate this is just this might even be a rhetorical question but is there even a way to navigate I think the show's made a lot of mistakes obviously I think the show has a lot of improvement to do but is there a way to do this and not have people like contestants and leads hurt from the experience when you're on a dating show that really thrives on drama. Like when drama is the number one marketing point to where they say this will be the most dramatic season of all time every time, is there a way to do that without it having controversy and feelings hurt?

I mean, the short answer of like you want a real answer, the answer is no. Like at the end of the day, I mean, this is a television on national network TV because it's entertaining and there's great stories and bad stories. And if you go take like even a 101 class on writing or telling a story, there has to be the villain. There has to be the loved character. There has to be the downfall. Every movie you watch, it's entertainment.

So I think when you step into this, there's only so much, you just kind of have to know what comes with the territory. And what you don't know, I do think people from the show, alumni like yourself, are doing a great job at trying to educate. Ben, the amount of phone calls you've taken, why don't you take a list of probably a hundred plus people who have called you and say, how do you navigate these waters, right?

And I think the alumni is really, really good at being open doors to, hey, if you feel stuck after this show because you're just mentally confused or just lost, like to say, hey, I've been there. This is the little advice I can give you. That's for sure. And the imposter issue where, of course, you're going to feel like an imposter.

you got famous for going on a dating show without any like really tangible skill sets to be there other than the fact that like somebody somewhere said hey you are a desirable person to somebody out there we don't know who it is yet and then you get thrown into this world you know matt man has a unique uh and to kind of close this thought man has a unique situation where i do feel like he might have one of the most impressive bachelor relationships um that we that i can remember based on the issues surrounding it. Like, it would have been very easy for him and Rachel to say, no, this isn't worth it.

Like, this isn't going to work long term. There's too much hate. There's too much confusion. There's too much chaos. Let's just go our separate ways. You do you. I'll do me. We'll move on.

I'm very impressed that they said, no, we're going to make this thing work. I think it, I mean, I'm going to assume here. I think it speaks to probably how much they care about each other. And that their relationship's probably really strong behind the scenes, too. Yeah. I mean, if I had a question, if Matt was sitting right here, I've got to meet Matt, I've got to meet Rachel. I've done some stuff with them too. Like we did a couple live things. They're awesome. Like their energy is so pure. It is so real. Matt is a super, super intelligent guy, which I really like. And I think one of the thing, just like his energy and his conversations, he'll like joke around and be like, yeah, I'm kind of a geek with this and he'll like get into the specifics about it. But I think one of the things is I would ask Matt, I would say, do you Do you think that the same chaos that frustrates you that really became the center and pinnacle and epicenter of your relationship? Is that same chaos what actually brought you two together?

Like, is there any bit of testament to say if this didn't happen the way it did? If people didn't criticize us the way it did, that maybe it wouldn't have worked. Like the strength of it wouldn't be there. And to your point, you see them like, I've seen them in person. I see them on Instagram. Their foundation is rock solid. They're always with each other. They're traveling with Rachel's family.

They're traveling with Matt's family. They seem so well-rounded and balanced and happy, just like always happy. So I think maybe that chaos is a really dark moment for them to look back on, but also the strength in their foundation. If you can get through that, it's a testament to what else you can get through in the crazy world that's out there. Yeah, I mean, national controversy, you make it through that. know how many things in life will get harder or more confusing than that and they made it and they're like you said they're doing great and so it's good for them and him and ben him too like i don't know

if you guys have talked about this before but i think some people forget that he had never been on a show before i can't could you imagine going through what you went through after the bachelor not ever having any exposure to yeah no i couldn't because there was the first couple weeks where you try to get used to this whole thing. And then when you finally become the bachelor and you step into like that role and you have people coming up, at least you know what to expect. Like at least you know where the contestants are at emotionally or if they're nervous. Um, no, I can't. I think there, I almost feel like the bachelor was like, for lack of a better term, like good practice to become the bachelor. Sure. Good prep. Um, to become the bachelor. Without it, I think that you would have just been

lost. Um, and I also lacking confidence. Yeah, because you see the buddies that you went through this experience with. You see some of them like, oh, man, that did not look good. And they're dealing with that. And then they're calling you. And you see the ups and downs and you know how this can come off. So then obviously it could prep you when you're going to be the bachelor to know that there's going to be highs and lows and who knows which angle this can turn. For him to just get thrown in, that's a lot to take out without any experience.

And he came out with a day. He came out in a relationship. Hey, isn't that what we want? It's a big deal. There we go. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.

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ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, it's Honey German, and my podcast, Grasasas Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow.

That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters, sharing their real stories of failure and success. You were destined to be a start. We talk all about what's viral and trending with a little bit of chisement, a lot of laughs, and those amazing vivas you've come to expect. And of course, we'll explore deeper topics dealing with identity, struggles, and all the issues

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And people just like us. I'm Lola Blanc and I'm Megan Elizabeth. We're the host of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief. Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Speaking of relationships, Bachelor in Paradise's Becca Kufrin and Thomas Jacobs

have announced that they'll both change their last names after the wedding. Here's how this is going to work, Jason. Thomas is going to change his name to, oh, they don't know yet, I guess. It's either going to be Kufrin Jacobs or Jacobs Kufrin is going to be how they hyphenate this. They think it's really important. Have you talked, are you going to hyphenate your name? Jessica and I talked about it. She actually went with, she dropped her middle name and is Jessica Clark Higgins now.

I mean, that's more traditional than I think even this. but I know it's a topic now where people are discussing it. Have you guys talked about it? What do you think? We've talked about it briefly. So what we've, what Caitlin has said is literally this, I think the exact same thing is what Jessica's doing. So I think

she was going to drop her middle name and make Bristow her middle name and then her last name would be Tardic. But, you know, those conversations can change but the last time we talked about it, that's what, that's what she said she would do. My stance on it is like whatever, like do, do whatever you want to do you know like i whatever makes you happy uh do what you got to do

yeah i have friends who didn't even change your name and i and i get it right i mean jessica wanted to change her name she she asked you know that's that was important to her um but it is interesting that both of them will change their name um something cool you know they're they're doing a bunch of things different you know uh than what is normally expected becca proposed to thomas Becca co-hosted The Bachelor Live on stage with me And so I've gotten to be a part of her kind of relationship journey Over the last few years It's really cool to see

I really like Thomas Talk about a guy that will That really made the 180 turn From his time on The Bachelorette to Paradise He really showed up and he's a good dude I like him a lot And so we're super happy for them here That's the big news

They're going to hyphenate their names They just don't know what order yet It's up to them also big news here to celebrate astrid and kevin went if you remember them uh they met on paradise and uh they're engaged they had their first kid august uh august is now seven months old astrid's coming out and talking about how their relationship has changed um post child which i always find interesting because obviously you're married uh god willing one day just kind of will have kids of own trying to figure out how that will look she says jason that kevin has picked up uh the dog care the cooking

groceries all the little stuff so that astro can focus being a focus being on being the best mom possible for august uh she says she can't imagine doing this uh the parenting deal with anybody else other than kevin that it's been really great uh jason any thoughts on this like no i swear to God, no joke at that. Like, when you said that, that gave me my legs. I got some goosebumps there. I think that's all. I mean, that's beautiful. It's like the beautiful story. When you first read that headline, I didn't know which way it was going to go. I was like, oh, is it like, did things get that after the kid? And to see that, like, Kevin is just doing anything to be like the best father. It doesn't surprise me for anyone that's met Kevin. He's a hell of a guy. And yeah, I mean,

that's, that's awesome. That's what I would expect from Kevin. And that doesn't surprise me in the least It doesn't surprise me either. I've got to do a couple things with Kevin and spent some good time with him at Winter Games, actually, way back in the day. He's just a good dude, and it's awesome to see them happy. It is so awesome to see them happy.

But one takeaway there, like, no, you cannot, you cannot compare having dogs to kids. Let me get it out there. But I will say, having the dog, like, it does create some kind of foundation for, like, okay, who's going to wake up and take the dogs out? When do you feed the dog? Who buys them, who takes them to the vet?

Like, it creates some system of accountability that's different than just making yourself the price. I think people that are honest, Jason, and I'll fall on the sword for this one. We had a really, you know, we got Waylon, our puppy, who's sleeping right next to me right now. He has bad gas today, by the way. So this dude is just blowing very much, but he's napping very nicely. Love it. You know, when we first got him, he was a tough puppy. He was a kind of nibble.

He would nibble on everything. He would chew everything. He wouldn't want to sleep. And it caused some nights where Jessica and I were both, like, upset with each other, with getting a puppy, with trying to figure out our rhythms in life. And so we started to, like, talk about it with people. And some people who had kids said, hey, getting a puppy is maybe more difficult than having an infant in a lot of ways. And I don't know that to be true yet. I just know that, like, there was some sleepless nights.

Now, I think a child, obviously, lives a lot longer and goes through terrible twos. But I think you're right. I think we learned a lot about ourselves and about our relationship from getting this puppy. Yeah, I mean, it's true. And the one thing is my dad said this to me, and I kind of blew, I brushed it off when he told me when I was thinking about getting our second. He said, just remember with dogs, the difference, the big difference is those are babies that never grow up. Like, they can never take themselves out again. They can never do X, Y, and Z like forever.

So just know that. And it is a lot. But it gets you on the same page. Like everything, even like the finances of it, the splitting the duties, like who's going to do, even like training when you're trying to train one way and and Caitlin's training another way, like getting on the same page with how you're communicating. It's definitely, I would hope, helpful. Maybe Kevin and Ashter could give us more on that. Yeah, I think somebody who has kids could probably speak into that. Yeah. Maybe they should be kind of not us. Hey, the teaser came out recently, Jason. July 11th is the premiere of the new Bachelorette season. Rachel and Gabby are ready to find. true love and fun new bachelorette teaser uh you can watch the teaser uh online you can just google it it's it's all over the place it looks really fun here's something that we found out last week jason

um you know these two are getting along really well they're still friends at least that's what they're telling us and i believe it they're acting like it they're doing everything together they're having a lot of fun with this one i'm jealous because i would have loved to have like a somebody that i really liked doing this with me uh i think it would have added to the experience um But your fiance, Caitlin, shared her bachelorette season, at least night one, with somebody. And then that bachelorette went home and Caitlin stayed. I know Caitlin spoke out on kind of how she feels about the two bachelorette thing.

I don't need to ask you that. But do you, are you excited for this season now knowing that these two are still getting along post-filming? Or are you hesitant to watch it? Kind of what's your feelings about this upcoming season? and again premiering on July 11th. Okay, so here's what I'm excited for. What I'm excited for is I think sometimes especially early episodes when you're feeling maybe it's a little,

it's getting a little like boring or like, I don't know if I've like totally caught the hook of the bachelor to stay connected. I think having the two different personalities and people and reactions and everything like that will keep it like spicy and entertaining. I think, okay, we talked a little bit about this, but we're talking about like the little benchmarking,

imposter syndrome, some of the mental effects that come with the show after. I can't see a world in which, whether they say it or not, that these two aren't beginning to possibly, especially when the show airs, like, competing a little bit. So maybe the filming went great. Maybe everything's perfect. But suppose America has a favorite.

Suppose they edit a favorite. Suppose one person gets a million followers. The next person gets 100,000. suppose one has a better couple and a light couple like I have a feeling and it would be interesting especially when you have the chance to interview them to see like are you at all doing any of this benchmarking are you a little envious are you are you happy with where you stand because i would find it really hard really hard at the lead level i mean you do that when you're cast a 30 so when you're at the lead level it's got to happen what you're being someone who was the lead what's like

you're taking thought on that if you had someone with you the whole time with you going to the whole experience, you would have to do a little of that, right? I think I've never thought about it that way. I was thinking about it, kind of how they were going to film it, but then the post part, I mean, as you speak, I would be shocked if anybody even out there listening couldn't see how there would be some envy and jealousy. Like, I would just be shocked if somebody's not like, yeah, that makes sense. I struggle deeply, like, had like, had to really work personally on working through envy and jealousy in my own life. And so, yes, my answer to that would be as the lead,

you kind of get asked to do this thing, which feels like a massive moment, probably the biggest opportunity you've ever been asked to do. And then you're sharing it with somebody. I honestly could see where the filming of it would be pretty fun. You're sharing it with somebody. You're in this enclosed environment. You're probably both having, you know,

some of the guys are interested in one of the girls, some of the guys are interested in the other girl, however that's going to work. they're both feeling loved on they're both feeling desired they're both feeling like intentionally pursued all those things are going well it would be the post show which was when it was hardest for me even following you know the next season and some would say i have you know leads lead syndrome or whatever that's that's cool i probably do um you know where you're the you're the bachelor one year and then a couple months later they announce a new guy nobody cares about you anymore everybody

moves on and you're like wait i'm still here I still want my moment. Why don't I have my moment? And so, yes, I could see where post show this could get difficult because they will probably get asked, they won't get asked to do every opportunity together. One will probably get asked to be a host of something or they'll get some really good Instagram or, you know, TikTok deal and the other won't. When those things are happening, I could see stuff starting to slip in.

I mean, I think we all are human. We all could see that. Totally. I mean, that's like, like, I know you and Nick are totally. different, right? Different humans, different people, different interests. But like both from the same season, then you both go on to be the next bachelor's. It's just like I could see where that would create so much who did it better. Or like maybe it'll be interesting to see during the season like if one of them falls in love first. And the other one is like have it struggling with it, like how

that goes together. So I think it's going to create a cool dynamic, one that they, we haven't like totally seen yet and one that should be fun to watch. I'm just happy. Okay. So the first check was, is the show going to add unneeded drama to those two's relationship and it sounds like it didn't at least through filming according to where they're at personally.

I'm happy about that. I really was going to be upset if them both being announced as The Bachelorette was going to end in us having to choose one or be more in favor of one or more pain being added to one

unnecessarily. Like, you know, and so I'm happy that we got that one checked off and now we go on to see how this plays out filming and post filming. Well, final headline is the Bachelor alum, Jacqueline Trumbull, celebrates her bachelorette party in Las Vegas. Now, if you remember, Jacqueline was on the Bachelor season 22.

She's 30 years old, and she is getting married. And so she celebrated in Vegas with a few Bachelor nation alums, Kendall Long and McKell Cooper were both there. They attended a drag show at the Garden, Las Vegas, hit up entertainment venue area 15 and enjoyed a delicious dinner at super freco, which I heard is absolutely amazing. So congratulations to Jacqueline on celebrating a great weekend, and we wish her the best as she gets married. Well, hey, everybody, as I mentioned before, we have a really special episode for Best Day coming out here soon. So make sure you continue to upload the almost

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