The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Back In The Saddle Again

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

You’d think if you were on The Bachelor you’d have no problem finding love once the cameras are off, not the case. You need to hear Elizabeth’s story of reality love gone wrong. Can Amy & TJ... help her find her way to I Do, Part 2? Ready to find love again? Want dating advice?Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763) Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
Starting point is 00:01:10 between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, folks. Welcome to I do part two, a one-of-a-kind experiment in love and podcasting, and we are not here to help just any old body find.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Love. Oh, no. Robs, we are here specifically for certain folks. Yes, for folks who didn't get love right the first time, or maybe even the second or third time, just like us. We are two of your hosts for I Do Part 2. I'm Amy Robo. And I'm T.J. Holmes, along with our fellow co-host, Jenna Kramer and Jenny Garth, as well as our celebrity mentors, we are going to give guidance based on all of our varying degrees of relationship experience. Experience, you say. Well, for us, that means two divorces each. So we are not here to sit on our pedestal and point fingers. No, we encouraged all of our listeners to call in, right in with their stories. We know we're not alone.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And their hopes for getting love right the next time. And one of those folks we heard from is someone that maybe some of our listeners are even familiar with. But take a listen now to one of the people who called in and say they need help looking for love. Hey, this is Elizabeth Brown, and I was just listening to the podcast, and my friend had told me that I should call in, so here I am. I'm 44, and three and a half years divorced, co-parents, a beautiful six-year-old daughter together, and live in Nashville. So, anyway, any way you can help, any advice would be well appreciated.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Thanks. Bye. So sweet. So sweet. Elizabeth Brown. If that doesn't sound familiar, maybe you remember her as Elizabeth Kit, Elizabeth Kit Brown. But Elizabeth is joining us now on the podcast. And honestly, we actually asked our producers, Elizabeth, whether or not you actually just called in or if there was some sort of a reach out to you. And no, you genuinely called the podcast asking for help. And folks might know who you are because. you were a contestant on the Bachelor, yes? A long time ago, yes. Season 14. And then also, so I know Bachelor in Paradise, but you were on a show that predated that as well, correct?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, Bachelor Pad, first season. Okay, remind us what Bachelor Pad was about. So it was more of a game show where you had a chance to win $250,000. So you were looking for money, not love on that one. Yes. Maybe a little bit of both. Win, win. Win, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:33 But you did end up getting married to someone who also was in the franchise. He was on The Bachelorette. So you ended up not on the actual shows you were on finding love, but in a way because of the show, you found love. So tell us a little bit about what happened. We know you're divorced now, but tell us about the romance and then what happened. Yeah, so coming off the shows, Ty was in L.A. visiting, and I met up with him and a bunch of the other bachelor people watching football, and I took to him right away because he's tall, and he's a country boy, and there's that immediate attraction right after the show. But then we both got into your relationships, and it was at the end of my two-year relationship, and I changed my status on face.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And 12 minutes later, he slid into my DMs and said, I think we need to talk. 12 minutes? Elizabeth, 12 minutes? After you changed your status? 12 minutes after the status changed. He was just standing by hitting refresh, refresh, refresh for two years. Yeah, so it's pretty cool. And he was living in L.A., or sorry, he was living in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I was in L.A. And I was looking to leave L.A. at that time, I'd been there five years. And we just decided I would move to Nashville. And it was a pretty quick dating relationship until we got married. So it was all really fast. How fast? I moved here. Well, we started talking in February.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I moved here in April, right in with him. What? Wow. Yeah. I'd never lived with a guy really before that. And then we got engaged in October and married by that following March. Wait a minute. Okay, help us here. And again, everybody has their own journey, their own experience. But to meet somebody, it's one thing to move in with somebody after, what did you say, February to April? But you moved across the country. So what went into that big of a decision to not just move in with a guy, but to uproot your life and move across the country for a guy? Yeah, you know, it wasn't the first time I'd moved across the country in my 20. So I was kind of kind of used to.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's your thing. Okay. I was 33 and he was 34 and we were just kind of at that age where, you know, we just wanted to kind of go for it and, you know, I really wanted, you know, a lot of kids and, you know, you're in your early 30s, the time the clock's ticking. So I get that. There was a lot of thought. No judgment here. I had a, I was engaged in four months and married in 10 months. It also ended in divorce. So I understand how sometimes you can get caught up and make. maybe not do the due diligence you should have done to make sure you're actually compatible, make sure he actually is the one. So I know it's, we both know. It's so hard, especially when children are involved to make the decision to divorce. What happened if you don't mind us asking?
Starting point is 00:07:38 What happened in your relationship where you all decided that was the next best step? Yeah, I mean, we, I think looking back, I needed to do a lot of work on myself before getting into a marriage. I'd always been the girl that was in the long relationships, and I went from relationship to relationships since high school. And I guess I never really found myself in order to present myself well to a partner. And so looking back, this last three and a half years, I've done a lot of work and just kind of being single and just being alone for the first time.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And there's been so much growth in that. You know, I finally found, you know, really who I am and I'm comfortable in who I am. And, you know, I had to get to know, like, what do I even like to do? You know, like, what do I like? Because I would always, you know, get into a relationship and just become whatever that person wanted me to be. You know, I was good at it. So, yeah, really being alone and sitting in that and discovering myself the last three and a half years has been really kind of cool. So I probably should have done that before.
Starting point is 00:08:51 you know, I feel like I gave it a good go for seven years with him. And, you know, we had some struggles with fertility. So we did the whole IVF thing and got our miracle daughter and who we both adore and we co-parent very well together. And yeah, I think now I'm kind of ready to start dating. But it's a challenge, you know. It's not just me that I have to think about bringing someone else into, you know, this little world that we have and, um, and just finding time as a single mom and, uh, just all the things, you know? Elizabeth, can I ask the, the work you said you've done in the past 300 years and 300 years, three and a half years.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I told you we were, it feels like 300 years. Okay. It feels like three and a half years. Uh, the work you've done on yourself since divorce, the person you are now and what you've become now, is this Elizabeth better prepared to be in that marriage that you were in? Can you be a better part? Can you all potentially work now because of where you are or that ship's just passed? Well, he has a girlfriend now and they've been dated for quite a while. Okay. That ships have failed. Thanks, CJ. No, I have thought about it, you know, right when we got divorced,
Starting point is 00:10:13 you know, could we get back together? I just think that, you know, he probably wouldn't have married me now because, you know, I'm just so much more grounded in who I am and what I want and my boundaries and, you know, my voice. And so, yeah, I just, I don't know that it would work. And we co-parent really well. And I like his girlfriend and I think they've got a great thing going. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Yeah, and you know what? That's awesome because that woman, if she hangs around, is obviously in your daughter's life and will be a part of your daughter's life. And so that's always something to consider. I just came out so bad. That woman. I don't know what you were saying. I mean, look, we've been down this road.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I've been down that road. I've been on both sides of it. I have my daughters have a stepmom. I've been a stepmom. So I get it. You're not just marrying or dating a person. You're dating their children to and their family. It all matters.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And so that's a big part of the equation. Have you dated? this three and a half years? And what has that experience been like post-divorce? It's been wild. Because I've, you know, I've never really been single this long. And I guess right after my divorce, I kind of put myself out there too soon. And I went on a few dates. And I'm like, you know, I, this is not the time. But it was also really strange because for the first time ever, really young guys would be the only people that would hit on me, like really young. And I'm like, I don't know about dating, you know, younger guys. I've usually dated people my age. And so that was
Starting point is 00:11:53 something that that was interesting from the start. Did you go on dates with those younger guys? Did you say yes? I did. Yeah. And what was that like? They were fun. You know, they were like, Well, I feel like I'm kind of young at heart too, and especially, you know, I'm 44, but I have a six-year-old daughter. So I'm kind of more in that, you know, younger age group with my mom group and things. So, but, yeah, they felt like the younger guys really put in more of an effort and they got really excited about the dates, whereas the older guys or, you know, guys my age or, you know, even older, they're just kind of like, yeah, you want to go on a date? You know, they're just not, like, really excited. You know, Elizabeth, what is, you say younger guys? What age range are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Like 10 years younger, like early 30s. All right, you're not going out with 24-year-olds. No, but they would hit on me, and I'm like, sir, you are way too young for me. Why you think that is? Why is it that younger guys are coming after you? I don't know. It was kind of a joke there for a while because any time I'd go out with my friends, you know, the only guys that would hit on me were really young and they were like,
Starting point is 00:13:10 how old was that one? I'm like, just way too young. Some women might say that's not a bad problem to have. I was going to ask you, is that a compliment to have a year? It is a compliment. I would absolutely think that was a compliment. I mean, look, I snagged a younger guy. T.J. is four and a half years younger than me.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm curious, how much younger would you feel comfortable with dating and maybe eventually marrying. Do you have a number going younger and a number going older? Yeah. So, because I put a lot of thought into that. And there were some, you know, younger guys that maybe I wrote off a little too soon. But my criteria is I don't mind them being, you know, 10 years younger, probably at the most. But my thing is, you know, they're 34. And, you know, do they want kids because I don't want to have any more kids you know I'm 44 so kind of past that um I think if I were you know a decade older and they were a decade young you know younger at the time um I don't think it would be that big of a deal because the you know the baby years are kind of
Starting point is 00:14:17 you know off the table if that makes sense my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
Starting point is 00:15:08 To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom's the podcast for you. Open your free I-HeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement. Terrible love advice.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here! Today we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is The Deva of the People.
Starting point is 00:16:12 The Deva of the People. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbrates, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Mycultura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Where are and how are you meeting folks to date the past three and a half years? Oh, geez. Sometimes through the app and sometimes out and about. Ideally, I think I would like to meet someone, you know, that is like a setup, you know, through a friend or something because it would feel more vetted or at work.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But now I work from home, so I don't like go into an office every day where I'm, you know, meeting people all the time. And I live on a little five-acre farm outside of Nashville. So I'm kind of isolated a lot. So it's kind of harder. I feel invisible a lot. It's like how do I get out there and meet people? Don't put too much stock and go into the office and meeting people. Office romances go really bad.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It can actually end your career. Yeah, that's what we're here. We wish we had a five-acre farm. We could have absolutely used that about a year ago. Do you have, you know, you said you don't want any more kids of your own, which is understandable, you've got your beautiful six-year-old daughter. But what about dating or being with a man who also has his own children? I would love that.
Starting point is 00:18:03 In fact, when I was in my early 30s and not married, I started thinking, I'll probably be a stepmom, you know, because I'm getting a little older. And I was excited about that idea, you know, of being a stepmom. I think the hardest thing, though, has been I've met guys that have kids, but then it's trying to find time. know, like with parenting schedules and everything, it just seems like if you're, if you have opposite weekends, forget about it. You know, you'll never see each other. What is the, I guess, how serious would things have to get before you would allow somebody
Starting point is 00:18:37 you're dating to meet your daughter, who is six, right? So has anything gotten that far? And what would need to happen for you to be comfortable with somebody meeting your, your daughter? Yeah, I've put a lot of thought into that, too, because I don't want, you know, her getting attached to somebody and not working out or, you know, what not. It would just have to be, I don't know if there's exactly a time frame on it. I've heard like six months is a general rule, but I think it would have to be, you know, I could really see this person being in our lives, you know. And so anytime I start talking to somebody, I think of that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I'm like, well, how would they fit in what we have going on, you know? So my ex, you know, Ty's got a good situation because she's got two boys that are around my daughter's age and, you know, Blakely's already calling them her brothers, which is cute, you know. So I love that for her to have that sibling, you know, the siblings. So yeah, if it happened for me, that'd be great. But it's really, Tidu just said that's cool to hear. And it is so nice to see a mom supportive of her daughter's experience in another. family. And just knowing I used to always say this, but I think you're in the same wavelength. The more people who love my girls, the better they're going to be. So why would I be jealous
Starting point is 00:19:58 or territorial if it just means they're being loved by more people? And that's, I think, how you have to look at it if you're looking out for their best interests. Now, that's so true because I ran a half marathon a couple weekends ago. Congratulations. Thank you. And I didn't have anyone to watch my daughter and his girlfriend was available and she said I'll take her for the morning so I got to drop her off you know with his girlfriend and they went and got their nails done and then afterwards I went to pick her up and me and the girlfriend talked for quite a while you know just kind of hung out and talked and it's really cool to see that and she was excited because she doesn't usually get one-on-one time with my daughter so she she thought it was
Starting point is 00:20:43 really special that they got their girl time because she's a she's a mom of boys you know so she doesn't get to do the nail stuff very often what are your and again that's wonderful to hear given we have two divorces excuse me four divorces between the two of us and you know those family dynamics can be difficult and it's good to hear it's working as well as it is so um so really we just got to get you hooked up here so um what what are your absolutes um i get for me it's smoking like if i hear if somebody is a smoker, that would be an absolute, I don't even want to go out on the date. Do you have some absolute non-negotiables? I will not compromise and date a guy who does, blank, blank, blank, blank.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Do you have any? Gosh, you know, really, I just am looking for someone that's, you know, very kind and somebody that loves kids. I guess probably if they didn't love kids, that would be a big deal breaker for me. So just like loving kids, being family-oriented, I also have to have the same sense of humor because I realized that in my marriage, I was like, you don't get my jokes. My jokes are funny. It's a little high brow, but, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:57 We're dark humor. Yes, and I think one of the ways we connected as friends was through humor, 100%. And that had been something that I hadn't experienced before, someone you can laugh with. And I love that you just said that because I think we both, I know I have learned that that for me is a huge component of our relationship, is that we can laugh together and laugh at the same types of things together. And yeah, when you don't get each other's humor, that's tough. That's a huge disconnect. And I've had that. Like, you're like, well, this is just and then you can't have fun. The whole point of right, we should be enjoying each other. And you
Starting point is 00:22:34 kind of have to enjoy each other's sense of humor. Yes, and I never realized that was such a big thing for me until, you know, yeah. And then when somebody laughs at me, it's almost like my love language. I'm like, oh, they get my jokes. Like, they get me. And so I just love that. It's so funny what you just said, because DJ laughs at me. I laugh with him.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But I'm okay with that. I'm fine if I'm the source of the humor, not something that I was choosing to be. Yeah, but you're the, I tell you this all the time, you're one of the funniest people I know when you're not trying to be funny. Just you being you, I end up falling off. Yeah, yeah, you're hilarious. You really, really are. But when I try to crack a joke, it falls flat every time. So now I just be me, and that apparently is funny.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It works, baby. That's awesome. We also had someone else, I think a friend of yours, Rebecca, right, also who's a member of Bachelor Nation, ended up calling in as well. both of, and again, we're telling folks, this came out of the blue. We did not solicit. So you all just happen to both call in. We're going to hear from Rebecca a little layer on Ido part two. But you have, you have us now. Look, we have a lot of relationship experience between the two of us. And so if you have access to us and all of our vast experience and background, what would you want to ask? What are some questions you have for folks like us? Oh, gosh. Well,
Starting point is 00:24:00 I love that you guys met in your friends first. You know, I think ideally that that's what I would love to have. But like, I find myself going on dates and kind of sabotaging them from the start because I don't want it to go too fast. You know, I'm like, I just want to get to know each other's friends. Can we just go do fun things in Nashville? And if, you know, we're all in love, we fall in love. But, like, I'm not going into it trying to fall in love.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I just, you know, want to get to know people and hang out and, you know, see where it goes. But, like, how do I say that on a first date? Like, say I met someone from the apps. And I'm like, I would argue you have a challenge if you're on a dating app and you set up a meeting with the person of that dating app, they're going to think they're on a date, period. Yeah. So it's hard to get someone out for a meal or whatever. And you're halfway through your surfing turf and that bottle of wine. And you say, oh, yeah, by the way, I just want to.
Starting point is 00:24:58 to be friends. That's not going to go over well. I'm serious. It's difficult to set it up that way. I would argue, and I ask the question as well, is there someone already in your life who could end up being that mate? Because for eight years, I didn't know this one sitting next to me. I would end up in a relationship with it. Never crossed my mind. So it's possible that person's already in your life. I just think, Roe, she's like it's a challenge to, on a dating app, get somebody to then think, oh, we're just, I just want to be friends and then see what happens. So I think, yes, saying that is off-putting immediately, and you're right, I do think that probably sabotages, because, I mean, if I heard that from someone who I was excited about
Starting point is 00:25:38 meeting or seeing, I would feel like, wamp, wah, it would be like, was it something I said? Do you not like how I look? That's a good point, you would feel that immediately, so you're immediately going on the defense. But I think that if you have it in your mind and you know that you want a relationship that is built from a friendship. I think you don't have to announce it. You'll just feel it out. If you have that friend vibe with somebody who you also are attracted to, that's obviously what you're looking for, right? So I don't think you have to say it. I don't think you have to announce it. I think you just know, I'll know it when I feel it. I'll know it when I see it. We're laughing at the same
Starting point is 00:26:15 things. We both like to watch horror movies, whatever. We both like to run half marathons. You start to see that you've got similar interests and similar ways of reacting. I always a similar mode of operation. I've noticed that in looking at what's worked and what hasn't. If you value the same things, you operate similarly and you like some of the same things, that is how friendships are built. So if those components are there, there will be a friendship in addition to the romance. But I think you just have to look for it. If you announce it, I think you're going to turn people off for sure. And that's happened. It kind of feels like a rejection. or like you're on a trial basis and that doesn't feel good like oh now you know now I'm
Starting point is 00:27:01 trial basis is a good way to put it and I think it would it would definitely make me feel like I wasn't good enough or you know I think that might be you know and not that women don't have egos too but I think the masculine ego tends to be even slightly more fragile sometimes in those moments and I ask Elizabeth is there anyone you can think of in your life right now you might not even be thinking about them as a romantic partner but do you have some friend that's been around a long time I mean, you all kind of, do you have anybody in mind, you don't have to say who it is, but do you have anything like that, somebody who's been kind of just hanging around for the past? I don't know, eight years.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I wish I could say yes. When I moved here and moved right in with my ex, I kind of, we got friends together. So I kind of moved into his world. And so after the divorce, I've had to find a whole new group of friends. And they're all married, you know, like my mom, they're all married. So not yet. No, we can't. But that's what I would think about that situation.
Starting point is 00:28:01 But yeah, to our point, you don't have to announce it. You'll just feel it and it'll flow. And if you all want to get together again, next time it might be for a baseball game or it might be for something more laid back and not necessarily have the pressure and the romantic feel of an actual date. And it'll just happen.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's funny because I think so many women go into these dates, especially someone who may be divorced looking for, a new partner who's had the time to work on themselves and kind of almost feel like in a rush. Like, I don't want to date you unless you're serious. It's so funny you're saying the exact opposite. But both of those things, I think, send people running. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So, we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with this professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
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Starting point is 00:30:49 as part of the MyCultura podcast network, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you have any thoughts on where I would go to meet single guys instead of going on the apps to set that up, you know? Luckily, I've never had to do the app thing, but I've only heard, I mean, there are obviously success stories,
Starting point is 00:31:16 but it feels like it's so hard to determine what people's motivations are on those apps. So I would, so you mentioned you just ran a half marathon. I don't know if Nashville, but I'm assuming they have run clubs. But I feel like if you love running or you love hiking or you love biking, whatever it is, join the club in your area. Like we see this all the time in New York. We have run clubs everywhere and it's so cool.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But this is like the new non-dating app, but a person to person in face meeting with folks who share the same passion and you could start running together. And it just could develop, there's no pressure then because you weren't swiping left or right, you're actually just doing something you love, and they are too. So that would be a suggestion of mine to join a run club. I know you've got a young daughter, but if you can fit it in once or twice a week, you might meet some really cool, awesome people who share your interests. Yeah, and usually the runners are in pretty good shape.
Starting point is 00:32:08 That's just an added bonus. But your friend, I know you're talking about the other moms. I mean, they're all coupled up, but in that group, anytime there's a chance to get to little folks, you mean. We are invited to so many little, I don't know, movie premieres or little book signings or any time you can get into a situation where there's not pressure, where it's just a group of folks hang out. And if it's a say yes if a friend wants to drag you to a church potluck.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Say yes if a friend wants to drag it to whatever it may be. I think you always have to get into a situation where there's no pressure when you've met these folks. There's no pressure to sit down for a meal, no pressure to make a connection. And it just happens naturally to get, go to a wedding. Go to any social, any of these social gatherings where they're just, people just wanted to have a good time. And I think that's a way to go. Say yes to everything.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I love that. I love that. Now, you guys are both parents. So what are your thoughts on the whole introducing someone to your kid thing? Like, what are your thoughts on those, on that? Yeah. I mean, I think it's obviously we all want to protect our kids at all costs. And I would not and did not introduce my then young daughters until it was.
Starting point is 00:33:21 somebody who I knew was going to be in their lives for a long time, but you can't ever predict the future, obviously, and it's a case-by-case basis. I wouldn't, for me, I don't know that I would give it a timeline. It'd be more, if we are in an exclusive relationship and we've decided to take that next step, not to see other people, then it's hard to constantly, and some people choose to do that, and I respect that too, but, you know, I think once you've made that commitment that for me would be when I'd be willing to start to introduce that person into my children's life. I agree. And we just went through this. Again, my daughter's 11, but we let her guide how she wanted to be introduced. There was never a time I had to, I put pressure on her and say,
Starting point is 00:34:06 this is what's happening. It was more let her guide when she got curious or when I continued to talk to her about it and say, hey, are you okay if robot comes to this or comes over to that? And then it's just become natural to the point now. Sometimes my daughter doesn't even want to come over and hang out or go do something unless, oh, is robot going to be with us? Right? She asked for us, so we got to this great place, but she 100% led the way on what she was comfortable with and when. Six years, seven years old, like your daughter is, maybe she is getting to the point.
Starting point is 00:34:35 She can make that call and she'll get curious, but it really helped to kind of, the child is old enough to let them guide. Yeah, I love that. That's really good, letting them guide. what happens if they meet the person and they don't really like them? Like, what do you do? Do you stay in the relationship? Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:34:55 So, especially if they're older kids, like you could be in this position, right? So you could be introduced to this guy's children who are older and they may not like you. You know, it's, and I think I would just say whoever the person is who's not being liked by the children, that's kind of a red flag because those children are. never going away. And you might want to spend some time trying to convince them, but sometimes it just doesn't matter. And you are setting yourself up or that your potential partner is setting themselves up for a lot of friction that is almost impossible to undo. I, that's why yes, take your time. But if there is a bad experience and a bad feeling and bad juju, that might be really hard to overcome. And I think it might be, I mean, the person who is not liked might be the
Starting point is 00:35:45 person who has to say, this isn't a comfortable situation for me to be in and nobody wins. So that's a really tough one because I'm sure there are people and children who can be convinced and persuaded, but sometimes you have to ask yourself, can I be in a relationship with somebody when I know every time their children are around, I feel uncomfortable or they feel that I have found that to be a very difficult situation. Then you have to ask some questions about why the kids might not like the other or the boyfriend or the girlfriend. And the onus has to be on the parents of that children to a great degree. Like what have they been saying?
Starting point is 00:36:22 Why have they not guided this process a little better? Because no kids should just, they might not like somebody because, okay, my mom is being replaced. My other parent, they might feel that way, but they shouldn't. And I know it's delicate and it's very difficult, but to just hate somebody outright. You have to have help from your partner to guide that situation. but to Robock's point, it is so, relationships are hard already.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Blending families is hard already. On top of that, we have to navigate your children not liking me. That is difficult to almost impossible to do. So that's a really, really big deal. Yes, no, it is. And that is something to, like when you have children or when the other person,
Starting point is 00:37:02 that has to be considered. Yes. Yes. Very much so. Well, being out on this farm, and, you know, working from home, I don't have a lot of opportunities to get out there and, you know, meet people, not to mention the time, right? So I've got my daughter 50% of the time.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So the other 50%, you know, I try to use that to go out. Then sometimes I just need some me time to, you know, and alone time. So my time is pretty limited. I think, how far out is this farm? I mean, do you have to drive into civilization? Why can't you go out? Yeah, I mean, I have to drive in. So it's like 35 minutes.
Starting point is 00:37:46 That's effort. Yeah, that's effort. Effort, yeah. That's tough. Well, you know, I don't know what you're doing in early December. I know what she's doing because we're going to drag her ass out to L.A. This is what's going to happen now. This is what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:38:02 We're going to all take a road trip. All right? So we're going to get you off that farm. And you are going to be our guest for the jingle ball December 6 out in Lowe, in Los Angeles, California. You're not just going to get to go out and have a good time and party and walk the red carpet
Starting point is 00:38:18 and do that whole thing. You're actually going to come out and we're going to put you to the test. I don't know how you're going to feel about this, but our celebrity mentors are going to come out and they're going to observe you. You're almost going to take a flirting test. They're going to watch and see how you operate
Starting point is 00:38:33 as you're trying to meet people and then they are going to give you kind of a grade on how you do. And they're going to help boost your confidence getting back out into the dating world, putting yourself out there, showing up at this big event, and just helping guide you.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It's scary to start over and to say, this is what I want. I'm putting myself out there. I mean, you called us, which I'm really amazed by. By the way, what were you, what are you, why did you call, and what were you hoping to get out of it?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Gosh, well, I've been a long time listener of you guys when you first launched your podcast, And I've been a long-time listener of Jana Kramer's podcast, the Wino podcast. And so when this came about, and my friend Rebecca called me and told me, have you heard of this ID Part 2? And I said, no, she said, we'll listen to it. I just called in and left my information. You need to do the same thing. So, I mean, she's been my in-it-to-win-it girl.
Starting point is 00:39:34 This whole, we went through our divorces together. We've been listening to y'all's podcasts together. and just kind of going through it. So, yeah, this is kind of funny that she told me to call in, and now here we are. Okay, let me ask it this way. You're going to be out in L.A., of course, a jingle ball. They're going to observe you, maybe give you some advice.
Starting point is 00:39:58 What's the best way to put this? Do you think you have game, Elizabeth? If there is a guy that you're interested in, do you know how to make it clear to said gentleman that you're interested? Are you a good flurter? You know, some people say I am, but then I don't think of that I am. I can talk to people, but I don't know that I have any game. But you know what? I think that is game.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Like, knowing who you are, knowing what you are good at, and knowing that, hey, I'm not going to be able to, like, sweet talk my way into something. I'm just going to be myself. You get to a certain age, right, where you're like, hey, this is who I am, this is what you get. I might not be smooth. I might not have swagger. But, you know, I bring other things to the table like humor and athleticism and all those other things. So we're really excited about this amazing event. Jingle ball. You ready? You excited? I'm excited. Yes. Are you going to come out? Are you going to bring the little one with you? Or are you going to, this is going to be a mom trip? Nope, this is just me. Smart. Well, we will see you out there for the jingle ball. And Elizabeth, this is really. really cool getting a chance to get to know you a little bit. This is really, really fun. I'm excited. Thank you guys so much. All right. More to come. We can't wait to hear all the
Starting point is 00:41:16 updates, Elizabeth. And it was great getting to know you. Thanks for calling in and thanks for being on the podcast. Yes. Thanks for having me. It's nice meeting you too. Good to meet you. And we will see you in L.A. And folks, we want you to know that if you want to put yourself out there, do not give up on the idea of finding love again. That's right. That's why we're here and here's what we want you to know. You can call us, just like Elizabeth did, at 1-844-4-4-I-do pod. Let me give you the numbers, if that's tough, because I hate when I have to find the letters and then figure out the corresponding numbers.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Here are the numbers you need. 844-44-4-4-3-6763. You can also email us at I-do pod at iHeartRadio.com. How are they going to find love? They can't even find us on social media after what you just got. You've got how to read copy. It's quite all right. But all this information will be in our show notes.
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