The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Ben and Ashley Tell All

Episode Date: August 31, 2022

It’s time for the Men Tell All for Gabby and Rachel’s season and Ben and Ashley aren’t holding back how they feel! Is it time to end the Men Tell All?? Were you as disappointed as Ben and Ashley? We look at the good and the bad as we get closer to the final rose. And Ashley has an idea for the next Bachelor that could totally revitalize the franchise!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just like right now, found a black widow? Yeah, I have a picture of it. Right now, right before we press record. Yeah, I did. Ben, do you know how scared I am most fighters, let alone one that is actually poisonous? Like, you could die. I could have. Yeah, I guess.

Well, I mean, I'm a big guy, but like my puppy, my wife's, my wife's a tiny human. Little Jess. Like, she'd have 10 minutes to go to the hospital. Isn't it crazy that things like that could just crawl into our house and something that big could truly just kill us? Am I being an alarmist? A little bit. I mean, I didn't think of it to this. So what happened was we had Jess's brother and sister-in-law in town this weekend, and it was

awesome. We had a really incredible time. They stayed in our basement. And then this morning before they left, they were downstairs. And we found in the room that they're sleeping in, a black widow on the wall. Now, I am a little bit less worrisome because here's what we're. what happened. I don't know if you guys remember this story from a few years ago. At my former house, before Jessica and I moved, I went to my garage one day, and there was all these little nests

and eggs everywhere inside the garage. It was a detached garage in the back of the yard. Thank the Lord. And all of a sudden, I'm looking at the eggs, and I noticed that it's mothers on all of them and it's black widows. We had an infestation in the garage where my office was. I had built my office inside the garage. And so inside like my office in my garage where I used to record this podcast, uh, they found over 300 black widows. And so, oh my God. 300. Oh my God. The imagery, I would, I don't know what I'd rather do. I don't think there's anything in this world that I'd, that I would be scared of would be less, yeah, that I would be more scared of than seeing the fit. Like there's something about that creepy crawly body. I know they're tiny, but.

I would rather feel like I would, I'd rather face a shark or an alligator. Interesting. Interesting thought there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Continue. Sorry.

Yeah. So we're in the process today. Jessica, obviously, isn't it like a massive fan of spiders? And so my afternoon is going to look like working and then also trying to figure out the best way to rid my house in the safest ways possible of black widows and make sure that there aren't a ton crawling in the sheets and crawling around in the beds. So I'm going to do a whole lookout. If you hear some stuff going on the background, I do have a couple people out right now

looking through the house, making sure that there's no, like, no immediate threat because they are pretty dangerous, but they are, there are pretty creepy, too. Like, I'm not usually scared of spiders, but when you see a black widow, like the black with the hourglass on the bottom of it. Yeah. It looks like it wants to destroy you. Like, it just looks like it's ready to pound. So that's my morning, Ashley.

It's been a great morning. I've got a workout in. I found a spider. And now I'm talking to you. And you had to watch this lovely episode. Yeah, we did. One that the fans, they're going wild over it. They thought it was the most fantastic thing they've ever seen.

That's not true. No, no. It's not true. So we're going to jump in. into recapping the episode. I don't even know how much recapping we're going to do of the recap. So we're going to break this up

into two sections. Because of the fans' reaction and because I think of most people's reactions, it would be hard. I honestly don't know if I saw one positive comment about the show last night on Twitter or on Instagram.

So, but because we break down the show, Ashley and I want to try to give a little perspective to what was happening. So we're going to break it up know a positive and negative section. What was positive about this show? Then what was negative? What, what, what things do we feel like we just missed on? Because I do think the show missed on some stuff. I do find it a little confusing. But let's jump into the positive first, which is who, one of my favorite, you know, members of this show this season is Avin. I've liked Avin

since the beginning. I think you have to. I feel like he is, especially on this hometown, Ashley, So I kick it off. I feel like he is quieter than I expected him to be. I felt like he could be, I think he's a sweet guy. And I actually think he could probably be the one at the end because he is, he listens well. He is considerate. He was definitely receptive of his dad and mom's advice. But he is quieter than I expected. We don't, honestly, as much as I like him, I just don't know a lot about him yet. I really don't have much to add. I completely agree with you.

I like the fact that his hometown is Salem. Just looking around was fun for a second. Yeah, that's cool. Which date was a little silly. But, you know, when you're in Salem, you must. And yeah, I liked his parents. I don't think that they were nearly as scary as he prepped Rachel for being. And he is just that nice, sweet, good-looking guy.

there's really there's I got no complaints about him well there is a comment here something that I felt as a viewer I did not enjoy and I don't know if I've ever recognized this until this episode I I like hometowns a lot I think it's a fun episode oh yeah but their date even though yeah you're in Salem and stuff it didn't help me know anything more about him and that's what I really feel like hometowns are meant to be like what what do you do in your hometown even like how do you spend your day even if it's as simple is going to like uh the high school you know and meeting and showing off your old high school or going to your favorite restaurant in town like i'm not looking for an extravagant date in your hometown i just want to learn something about what your daily life looks like or what your daily life looked like when you lived in this town and i feel like their date didn't give me any of that And so I leave this date, again saying, I like Avin. I think he seems great.

I just don't know anything about him yet. That was actually quite perspective. Like, you had a great, that was intuitive of you to pick up on that. Because I was like, oh, of course, I could do something like this. Not thinking that they could have utilized it better. Sure. I mean, I'm sure Salem obviously has the history and has the kind of the known factor of what Salem is for and what goes on there. And I'm sure that's a huge part of their culture.

as a town. It sure is. Like, they live for Halloween. Sure. And that's awesome. That's great. Well, but Avin, I want to know more about what you do. I mean, maybe this was what you do, but I never heard it during the episode where he told

Rachel, hey, this is how I spend my days in Salem, like going to these shops. That'd been fine if that's the thing. But it would have helped me at least know. He doesn't. I don't think he spends time going to those shops. It was, I don't think he does either. was also odd to me, Ashley, that this hometown aired during this episode. It definitely kind of threw me off. Like, it was a weird switch. But I got back into it. The positives of this,

I thought Avin's parents were great. They were the perfect amount of, not harsh, but inquisitive, of concerned, also excited. I thought they had a good mix. They balanced each other out well. and they made sure to ask good questions, but they definitely didn't leave Rachel or even, I don't think, looking for, wondering if there were support for the two of them together. You left wondering if there was, there's support, there's good support, yeah. Yeah, I said they're the perfect mix where I didn't watch it and go, oh my gosh, are they for or against this whole thing?

No, they asked good questions. they were concerned they were inquisitive they pressured and pushed a little bit but they also gave the validation to the two of them that hey if you guys are adults if you're into this and you want to run with this go for it yeah it was like perfect parenting yeah it was great i mean and honestly uh and this we're still in the positive section of this podcast we were still speaking positively about this episode uh because we want to pull some good things out uh the dad was a huge hit on Twitter. Massive hit last night.

He was such a cutie. Very, very sweet man. Definitely handled it in a way that like Tino's dad could have last week where he is a little skeptical, wants them to remain in the real world, but did it with an attitude that was supportive. 100% agree.

Okay, so on to then the mental law, which happened after the hometown date. Again, just to be clear, we're speaking on the positives right now. So we're not going to mention that we didn't see the row ceremony because that wouldn't be a positive in our minds. But the positives from the mental awe, Ashley, what stood out to you that you felt was genuine, sincere, likable, loving, and added to this whole storyline this season? Well, you're not to put you on the spot. Not to put you on the spot. You definitely put me on the spot, but you're not going to like my hands.

okay it was the commercial for the bros it was the ad for the movie that I was actually like ah I would like to see this oh goodness that's it let's see let me let me scroll through these notes here for a second the paradise preview that was fun oh Ashley we're not even talking about the show anymore even though 27% of the show was ads That's what I just found out this morning. I know, because Bachelor Data did something.

It's a lot. In addition to the actual commercials, there was, like, built-in ads for, you know, Virgin Atlantic. So we could assume, like, over 50% of this show was us watching a promo for something else, which was most people's biggest critique. Okay, but we're still in the positive. Okay, okay, okay, I'm going to come up with something because I do truly want to come up with something positive. Tyler, his whole just demeanor in presence there, I think, is always so sweet. Yeah. I liked him and his always understanding of the situation.

I hope we see him in paradise. Uh-huh. Same. I liked seeing Jordan V. Yeah. Again, really want to see Jordan V in paradise. Another standout just moment for Jordan V just being there in general. I think it's like how in the world, after like looking at the mental all last night,

you're like, how in the world did this do not make it farther? Like, I don't get it. Yeah. Yeah. And then I like our friend who we met last week. Spencer. Spencer. Spencer. Looking good in the goatee. Oh, looking so good with the facial hair. Should have had it more. Yeah. Okay. So on my positives, I really enjoyed the bloopers. I know that some people don't. But I liked the bloopers of Gabby, especially just being like Gabby. You know, she's like. The champagne. The champagne was awesome. She farted. And like I know how that invites. there's like five people in a closed hot room because there's lights and it's a close camera and there's audio and all this stuff and she's doing this interview and she farts and she says

I'm sorry everybody hold their breath I thought that was fantastic I never did that obviously I needed to multiple times oh you poor thing you had a tapeworm or whatever yeah I had a parasite pesticide a pesticide a pesticide but like I never had the confidence I thought that was a very likeable relatable moment for Gabby during the bloopers where it's like this is who we remember her as from Clayton's season. I did enjoy Tyler as well. I also really liked one of my and I've said it every season. I get really like angry viscerally like very angry when I watch Men Tell All and I see somebody that was there for like two hours critique the Bachelorette or critique the other cast because they have no place. They've not been there. They've only watched

some of these episodes on TV, like everybody else, they can act. They can act like they know what's going on. They have no clue what's going on. So did Roby rub you the wrong way? That was a negative, though. No, no, no. Let me finish.

Let me finish. You like Roby's hair? No, gosh, no. So Roby spoke out often at the beginning. I really, a positive, was Ethan, who we've grown to really like during this whole season, kind of the guy that you'd never, expected because he was quieter at first. He kind of just sat back in the shadows. Great looking

dude, definitely a candidate to be the next bachelor, I think. But when he spoke up and said, hey, you weren't even there, Roby, like stop bringing up bad moments and stop bringing up controversy. When you have no ground to speak on, I find that an amazing, amazing thing to like set the tone for the evening. Like this doesn't have to be controversial. It doesn't have to be dramatic. There doesn't have to be arguments, especially during a season like this,

where we don't have a lot of cast arguments. And the ones that we did have cast arguments against weren't even there. Like, they didn't even show up. So, yeah, what's it? I'm sorry, I'm like, warble with his name. What is this? Hayden.

Hunter? Hayden. Hayden. Hayden. Yeah. Hayden thought he was actually hiding in a trailer, but I guess he didn't come. Yeah, well, you can't necessarily blame the dude because he would have been probably, Chris

and Hayden would have been the only two cast members this season that would have consensus within the house to be mad at or to critique. So, I mean, I don't blame him for just being like, I know what's going to happen if I walk out there. I'm just going to get crushed. And there's nothing I'm going to be able to say. So I'm not going. Yeah, I am shocked because it really, really seems like it was a choice of his not to go. And I feel like a lot of people don't feel like they have a choice to go or not, especially in this season where there wasn't a ton of drama between the guys. You would have thought that the show would have really wanted him there for the conflict. I'm surprised he did not show. I will say, I don't know what their

agreements are. I don't know what the situation is. I can't speak to that. I would imagine if you agreed to be on the show, you also are at some level agreeing to do the men tell all or going to the live shows. I would just imagine that. I mean, I think that's how that works. So I'm surprised the show isn't like, I'm sorry, dude. Like, you have to go. Same. So who, there's, there's been bigger villains who have showed up, though. Yeah. I'm not saying that, I'm not trying to downplay what he said. What he said was pretty horrible. You know, you can't call the girls' bitches that you're trying to date. No. But like, we've seen way bigger villains before. Show up.

And you, they show up. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm sure they wouldn't have wanted to. What I want to watch. Given the choice. Like, they should have shown us the conversation that Hayden was having with whatever producer in the trailer. Like, that's what I want to see is the producer being like, dude, you got to go. And he's like, nope, not leaving.

They're like, oh, you think he was in the trailer? I don't know. I mean, I don't think so. They put his name on there for looks. Okay. Well. He didn't fly out. That's fair.

I just would have loved to see the behind the scenes of those conversations. Okay, Ashley, any other positives for you? I thought The Bachelor's looks really pretty. So pretty. We really liked Gabby's dress. Yeah. You've liked Gabby's dress all season. Now, Rachel's, you've been a little more critical of.

Everybody's been a little bit more critical of Rachel's. Yeah. You know, Rachel kind of just said she doesn't have a strong fashion sense and she just kind of let them dress her. That's fair. That's fair. Hi, my name is Enya Jumanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips.

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and it's not a great listen. But we're going to speak into some of the biggest criticisms of fans for this episode because there was a lot. If you are not aware, if you're listening right now, or maybe you haven't even watched the episode yet and listen to our podcast before you watch it, criticism came in and it was, I would say, the most criticism I've ever seen publicly on social media for an episode of the show. And it wasn't criticism maybe like we've had in the past towards.

a specific issue or something that somebody felt offended by or they felt was inappropriate. No, this was criticism just on kind of being boring. Formatting. Formatting, being bored, not enjoying the watch, which you don't get a lot during the Bachelor. People love to hate the bachelor. It's very trendy to hate The Bachelor and Bachelorette. But you don't get a lot of people just criticizing the, I would say, boringness of the show. Like, you don't get a lot of people just saying, why am I watching this? Yeah. So, okay, let's start at the beginning, do it chronologically.

Ashley, what are your thoughts on not showing the rose ceremony and Jesse just simply saying, hey, all the guys are staying? I wouldn't normally have minded it, but when you see the kind of content that they replaced it with, which was a lot of commercials, and just overall, like, non-substantial stuff, you make you feel like, oh, the rose ceremony would have been more substantial. I could have at least used the suspense of it. Like, pretend as if, well, yeah, I guess, like, here's a question that lingers. Did the guys go into that rose ceremony knowing that they were all going to get a rose?

Was it just formality? Or were, you know, like, were all the roses sitting there? And they're like, oh, look, we're all getting a rose. That's so exciting. Or was there some sort of suspense? Okay. Great point. and I would have liked to know all those things.

My comment to that is I watch the show because I want to watch the show. The men tell all for me, I could take it or leave it. Like, honestly, I prefer not to even have this episode. I know we always say it. Every time it comes around, I really think they need to cut this episode. It's just run its course.

Sure. We know I don't enjoy it. Jesse was like, what you've all been waiting for, the men tell all. It's like, believe me. Nobody in this audience has been looking forward to the Mento all the most, especially this season where there's been a very little amount of drama between the guys. I have a positive, though.

I'm thought of another positive, the super tease for the rest of the season. It's really, really good, and I have no idea where it's leading, and it truly gets me pumped to watch the final few episodes. Okay, so back to then, what I was saying was, yes, we watched the show to watch the show. The Super T's was great. Let's get us into that. let's keep let's keep this thing moving the mental all feels like an unnecessary break an unnecessary movement of a lack of momentum especially when the mental all is like this and so

for them to cut the rose ceremony for the mental all makes me say i think the priorities were wrong like cut the mental all for the rose ceremony um i want to see i want to see the the drama i want to know who's going home i want to see somebody sweat a little bit and so for the to cut it and just do it like they did. It felt unnecessary. But it did at the beginning of this show, Ashley. And this is we're going to keep moving on then from. It did get me excited for the mental because I was like, there's so much stuff in this mental all that they can't even do the rose ceremony. Now, my thoughts were proven incorrect. But that doesn't mean that I wasn't excited for a moment. Okay. So the next. Wait, can I say that there's a funny tweet from

Dan Emerson, just a fan online? He goes, we didn't have time for a rose ceremony, but we had time for an app demonstration and a cruise giveaway. And then there's a judgey look from Judge Judy as a gift attached to that. That's pretty cute. Definitely. And very, uh, and not untrue. Okay. So the next big criticism, I don't even know if it's a criticism, uh, is Roby comes out with platinum blonde hair. Now, Roby can do what Roby wants to do. If he wants to have platinum blonde hair, uh, as I get older, my philosophy is go do that, Roby. However, I feel like it was a host, mistake to not even ask Roby why in the world did he dye his hair platinum blonde we have no clue he just showed up like this well we've only known Roby as Ethan pointed out for about four hours who's

only in like four hours of production time yet we do find we know that he's somebody who likes attention he is a magician so I think the color was going to get him some attention and he succeeded at that he did succeed he wanted some attention He got some attention. Unfortunately, I just don't see it being beneficial. Like, I don't know what he was going after. He got a few moments of speaking lines. I don't see this playing out very well for Roby.

I don't see him getting a lot of gigs based on this episode. But that's my own opinion. He can prove me wrong later on. Okay. So then we go into the men's conversation. Like, where the men are talking amongst each other and Jesse is hosting it. Honestly, Ashley, and I'm going to throw it to you here.

This would be my only comment. I don't, I just watched it a few hours ago. I don't remember anything from their conversation. And that's not a good thing. That means I watched it. That's why we're not going to go through it because we don't remember it because it was all inconsequential conversation.

It was, it just felt like it was kind of a filler. You know, it was like, we're at the men to all, so the men have to have this moment. it, but it didn't feel necessary, which I believe at this point, Jesse pauses us in the show to give us an app demonstration of how champagne can be delivered, right? Champagne can be delivered on a cruise ship that we are all currently not on. And when he gives away to the cruise, remember the tease last week was that there is news that we're going to get at Mentelal that's going to change our lives.

actually only changing the lives of the people in the audience for a week, but they will have memories to last a lifetime. And you guys know, I've talked about it was Tristic a week's ago, huge cruiser. So I am truly jealous of everybody in that audience. And I'm also very happy from them at the same time that they get this experience. But what a letdown for all of us. Well, and that's what I think the show needs to be careful of.

And so to get a little bit farther out, these teasers that are disappointing lose trust in your audience oh my god what a point ben higgins you know remember the days of the fence jump when there was a tease that lived up people responded

and so during a season of the show where the show is trying to gain back the trust of the viewer trying to move forward gaining the trust of the viewer these big teases that don't live up to the hype are, I think, very, I want to use the word dangerous, but dangerous seems very heavy. But like, what I mean is these teasers that don't satisfy what we're all hoping for, especially when they say it's life-changing, I think make the

viewers at some point go, I'm done with this thing. Like, I don't want to watch this anymore. I don't want to be drawn into something that's going to disappoint me. The show has to deliver. And teasers like this are not delivering. And if they don't deliver, then how in the world is the show going to expect their first episode when they show the highlights for the season to gain the attention of the public? If all they think about in their mind is how many times of the show disappointed me in the past? Ben, you're so poignant today. Oh, thank you. Like you're making me, as Kylie Jenner would say, like realize things. Oh, I slept good last night. This has been an episode of realizing things. And I have not slept well in a very, very long time. But that's a topic for

another time. I'm glad that you brought your brain today because you are sharp. Well, that's, that's it. Okay. So we have this app demonstration that if you're on a cruise ship, you can get champagne delivered, right? I mean, first off, very cool. Does make me want to take a trip on Virgin. They did a great job promoting Virgin. I say, like I'm like, okay. All. It's been a big commercial. I know. But you know what the one question that was, that could have been answered at Mentelaw. It wasn't how Logan went about, well, I guess there's two questions.

Okay. One, there was the Nate drama, what happened off camera, him not telling an ex about a child for a year and a half. That was one huge lingering question. Jesse starts the episode by saying that we're going to get answers to that. That's great. Thank you. but the other the other question that we have is logan and not his decision to switch teams quote but whatever happened with the covid thing why didn't everybody else get covid and was his test

really positive and what he just was eliminated and where did he go and all of this stuff why didn't he get to come back when he was better those questions were not brought up and not answered, which just further confirms to me that there's some shady business going on there and they just wanted to get rid of Logan. Yeah, I would say that's a good way out. I think that's going to be one of those things that in a season we forget even happened. And I think the show probably assumes that we will forget it even happened. There are a lot of questions there. I mean, Logan felt like he was gaining a better relationship. And so he had some momentum moving forward. And then all of a sudden, he's gone. Nobody really talks about him. He's out of there.

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These filmings are a long time. And so to get champagne during your eight-hour sitting during this show, is probably very nice and it's a good little treat for all the audience members. We move on then to Nate's conversation. Probably, it felt like would be the most important conversation

of mental all. There's been some recent headlines come out today that we know about. We watch this episode. Nate speaks to why he never introduced his kids to the people he was dating. His kid. his kid, and he's a dad.

I mean, I want to hold criticism and judgment very loosely here because he is a dad. And you want a father and a parent to parent and bring up their child in whatever ways they see necessary to protect him and love on them. And we have to assume he's doing all those things. So I'm not, you know, people last night were fairly critical and positive on what Nate's words were, right? here's the crazy part here's what things get weird to me is I think Nate I felt like last night

this is I'll pause actually because I want to hear your thoughts I thought last night they were said No you're gonna make me say the bad things No no no I'm not not at all I felt like last night they were setting Nate up I felt like I was watching them set Nate up to be The Bachelor

like they were trying to reconcile and and spin this but like bring it out enough where the public would say Nate should be the Bachelor. I felt like that's what I was watching. I don't think they were successful in that. Today, I think we see that they definitely were successful in that

based on this headline that I'll read here in just a second. But Ashley, what did you think when you watched his interview? I thought it was phony. Okay, fair. And I get that. And I felt like it was almost forced. Like I said, they were trying to force this idea that he should be the Bachelor, even though, you know, these rumors did come out.

And no matter what he says, people are going to disagree with him, right? There is a divide on, hey, he's doing the right thing here or he's doing the wrong thing. But there's a divide. And now we see today in the headline that Nate was seen holding hands at a grocery store with a girl. Yes, he was. We don't know the girl's name. We don't know who she is. But he was, and we also don't know.

No shade for that. I don't care. go for it you know he's had time apart from gabby he got eliminated six she sent him home whatever go hold hands with the girl in a grocery store not even that has nothing to do with me thinking this came out across as phony no this came across as phony to me a lot of the a lot of it has to do with the way that they produced it they showed so many audiences faces during that interview so many women nodding or like being like yes like sympathy yeah and they were so trying to make us be on his team.

Yeah. It was almost so shoved down my throat that I was like, no, no. You will not force me to feel this. Yes. I mean, I think that's, you just brought up a great point. You're saying I'm on it today. I think you're on it. I think that's why this was hard for me to watch

because I kept watching. He would say something like, I have a daughter. And everybody in the audience, they'd show these audience members, just shaking their head. Oh, yeah, you do. It's like, okay. Come on.

Like this, this is not, this is not a talk show, right? This is not a daytime talk show. Oh, it felt like a daytime talk show. It felt like Dr. Phil. Corny. Yes, 100%. Jared even pointed out that they, that they said, they made sure to poise the conversation in a way that it started out with good things about Nate.

Yeah. Then they addressed the controversy. And then they ended with good things about Nate. And they had to have, what's his name? I have no freaking idea in the line of men say, hey, hey, Jesse, can I interrupt for a second?

I just want to say that a good man makes other men better and that is what Nate did to me. It was all so calculated to make him the next bachelor and we're just all, I just feel like we're all not having it.

Even if we read one of the headlines, there is a headline in which basically backstage at Men Tell All, Gabby, Rachel, and some of the men all talk about who they want to see as Bachelor, and they all say Nate. And it's

just too much and I'm sorry, I'm going to ramble now. If this was a guy that we saw so much screen time from and that we just like were so obsessed with and so loved during the season and then we see that he made a mistake in real life, maybe,

maybe, but the fact is we did it like we got to know him. I liked him. I even said that when he got dumped, I really wanted to see more of him. I was upset that I wasn't going to. I can't get over now that I can't get over that he didn't talk that he didn't tell a girl for a year and a half, a year and a half. Two. I think it was two. Yeah, two girls. Well, what, two girls. Yeah. Well, that's like up for debate. Like, he, he even admitted that there were two girls in the picture. I don't know he was like seriously dating two girls at once, whatever, it wasn't a dress. I get not

introducing your daughter to somebody after a year and a half. That's fine. I understand your reasoning between the divorce and not want to get your daughter into it. So respectable. Not bringing up the fact that you have one, that does seem like you're hiding her. I hide a huge aspect of your life, making it seem as if, well, it's a little controversial to say, but almost seeing as if you're purposely trying to hide an aspect of your life. a big aspect of your life. I think it was, I think no matter what, it's an odd decision to date somebody for a year and a half. It is an odd decision to know somebody for a year and a half. Like a friend, a coworker, I don't know, like just somebody in passing for a year and a half

that you're having semi-regular conversations with and not bring up the fact that you have a child. I mean, I talk about my puppy to everybody and anybody. Now, different than a kid. I feel more strongly about this now that I'm a parent. I can't go a minute without being like, I'm sorry, I know you're a stranger. I just met. Can I show you a picture? Like, I'm that person now. And now I understand why people do that. It also, oh, God, this is a little controversial as well. It makes me feel as if maybe he wasn't as present in his daughter's life as he was. trying to put across earlier in the season. Makes you bring up questions, right?

That's what you're saying. Brings up questions. Thank you. Yes, I'm not accusing. I'm just, I'm just questioning. It brings up questions. And I,

again, to end this statement, I think your comments at the beginning, if they just would have had Nate sit there, like I, and talk. And with that we weren't trying to be persuaded in any way, then I think my response is a lot better.

This isn't even as much of a criticism on Nate. And what he said and hasn't, said or what he's done and not done. Honestly, most of the time I felt like I was watching an infomercial. Like when you see the people cooking in the nonstick pots and they go out to the audience, they look out, look how clean it is. And all the audience shakes their head and smile like, this is the best thing ever. That's how I felt this was to me. And it made me just turn off and go, I don't, I know, I'm not being persuaded here. No matter what, I'm done. There's nothing that's going to convince me either direction because this is so corny to me, especially using the

fan's reaction to everything he was saying. It was odd. So that's, we'll close that. And I will enter this conversation very briefly. This is just another moment that said to me, hey, Tyler Cameron, whenever the heck he wants, give him all the opportunity he wants, make him the bachelor, or, or you will have another. rating season. Really? This moment made you think of Tyler Cameron? Oh, moments like this always remind me of Tyler Cameron.

He is your savior for the show. He's the show's savior because he is a celebrity now. He's not only just a former contestant from a heyday from one of the last seasons in which there was good ratings and there was a lot of excitement and chatter around it. Not only that, but he is a celebrity now. So now he's almost like a stunt casting. It's almost like having when they had like of the prince or they had like Charlie O'Connell's brother and stuff like this. Even like Bob Guinea to a certain point was almost a celebrity when he became The Bachelor.

Yeah, I get that. Okay. Fair enough. I mean, I think yes, Tyler Cameron is The Bachelor would probably be a good thing for the show. I cannot disagree with that. Could you come up with one person in this? in the cast of single men from the franchise right now, not necessarily this cast,

but another one of recent history that would spark as many ratings, attention, and excitement amongst the fandom. I can think of a few personally that I would like to see. I think that Mike Johnson could do it. I think that Mike Johnson with Peter Krause would be amazing. Do double. Do double.

You have to do double if you're going to do two girls. That's an awesome pairing. But I don't, I can't, but I don't think that it's like a huge. huge, I don't know. Peter Cross would be an amazing freaking bachelor, but I do think that people have forgotten him at this point.

I think they lost that opportunity years ago, but who says who lost who? You know, like, I think there's a lot of rumors that say that it was Peter that passed up on the opportunity. I can find good pairings, okay? I, blah, blah, I can find good pairings, but like Tyler Cameron will bring it all.

Now, you tell me who else can bring it all, Ben. I mean, I think the Andrews, could probably pull a fairly good audience. I think if you're looking to revitalize ratings, though, you're probably going to have to pull somebody from past seasons just because the show had more viewership back then. And so, I mean, I don't disagree. I think Peter might be a little far removed

for people to get super pumped up. But I do think Mike Johnson. I think Michael A could probably do a pretty good job. Michael A could do a great job. if he doesn't end up with somebody from Paradise, it would be a great transition in. I think that it may have been their intention with him on Paradise. So the,

but is that it? Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard. I mean, I think you look at Tyler Cameron and people go, yeah, he is a celebrity. He has made his way outside of this. I just don't think there's any shot. I don't think there's any reason I wouldn't do it if I was him. I mean, it would just be a really hard sell.

And then I feel like the season would almost have too much weight on him. And it would, that might, in my opinion, be the death of the show. Because you have this person that you're going to put up, you're going to let negotiate what they want, what they don't want. Look how he wants and not wants. And then all of a sudden the show dramatically changes forever. I don't think you ever get it back. And so maybe as a finale, maybe as a final season, I get it.

but I don't see that being a healthy stepping stone for the show. I just see it going backwards from there quickly again. And so, no, I don't see the show making that decision. I don't see Tyler making that decision. I'm not saying I see it. I'm saying that that's what would be, in my opinion, a saving grace. Okay. So.

Should we go to headlines? No, not quite yet, because we do have a few more things, Ashley, to touch on. We do have the cruise giveaway. Everybody in the audience gives a cruise. It's good for five more months, I heard.

Wait, they have five months to do it. It's good till the end of the year is the rumor being spread. And it only leaves out of two ports, Miami and somewhere else. But hey, you get a free cruise. Like, buy the plane ticket. Yeah, whatever.

Take advantage. It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah, you can go find a week. Definitely not life changing for Bachelor Nation at all. What if somebody has a free cruise and they go on?

on that cruise and they find their husband. Could be life-changing. I would love to see it. Well, actually, that's all we have from Intel all. It definitely felt like an unnecessary watch from my opinion. We're not even going to get into all the ads. That's why this is so quick because there was a lot of sneak peeks and ads and trailers for things. Paradise does look cool.

I'll say that. I'm excited to watch Paradise. as excited as I ever am to watch Paradise. I think it's a great show. I think it's a lot of fun to watch. I think it doesn't have the issues that this show has right now. And so, as a result, super pumped that that's coming out and that we can start getting excited for that.

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Ashley, it is time for headlines today. We have a few to get into. After we scroll through our headlines, just have a ton of Twitter reactions to last size episode. Shockingly, none of them are great. But the first one is this. Peter Weber likes post about reuniting with Kelly Flanagan. Jokes about having impure thoughts about her. Whoa. This is the shit we need, guys. This brings me alive. Did you know about this?

Have you been following this story for the past week or so? Yeah, I have. It is fascinating. These two have talked so much smack about each other in public. And now they're just back together. Okay, so this is the quote proof

that we have right now, besides the photos that we've seen them together, which is enough proof for me. Kelly posted this picture on Instagram on Sunday. Somebody, I just a fan, said, having impure thoughts Miss Hottie with lots of fire signs. And then Peter responded underneath it and said, same. Somebody also commented under the picture,

happy you guys found your way back together, and he liked it. Wow. I love this story. It's so juicy. It's juicy, but it's kind of cute. Like, it's like a, you know, like the, like, they like each other. They were so mad at each other. There was so much pain and resentment for whatever reason. We never really know why. Now they're back together. I wonder what those conversations were like as they tried to like reconcile and spend more time investing each other. I wonder if it was always kind of this. I'm into you. I'm into you. But I don't like you for some. some reason, and now they're finding themselves back together. This is why we need a reality show that documents our lives post show, because this stuff would be such good TV. And what I like about this relationship that I find so interesting is because I've never had a relationship like this. And these two people just like, they have that thing where they probably fight all day, and it's fiery and steamy, and there's probably

lots of makeup sex, and it's just passionate. And, They're not always nice to each other, but it's hot. But it's hot. It sounds like a movie you just made up in your mind. They are a movie to me. Oh, geez. Next headline is this. Bachelor at Favor, Andrew Spencer gets real about his life-changing time in Paradise.

He just said that basically that the people who have never been down there, it was a shock. It was a shocking experience, which is what I warn people every time they go to Paradise. I'm like, listen, it is a totally different environment and process than the show. The show can be so much fun. Paradise can change your life for the better, of course. Look who's on my lap right now. But it is emotional boot camp. It never stops.

You get to rest on the main show. But it never stops testing you, Paradise. And then just as far as like a fun little quote, Andrew says that, the best thing to bring down there for anybody who is going to be down there next is a fan. He said some people brought three or four fans and some people didn't bring any.

But it's a very vital part to having a comfortable experience down there. I can imagine. I'm excited to see him on Paradise. Me too. He's the sweetest. Katie Thurston admits John Hersey dumped her. Her quote is, A Blessing in disguise.

Guys, we got so much tea from Katie Thurston on Caitlin's podcast this week. She says that technically they broke up twice. The first time, no one knew about it. Like a week or two later, we kind of worked through it and decided to get back together. So I thought we were golden. However, in June, she said that the final split was unavoidable, explaining that she knew more reasons why he did not like her than liked her. That is a really shitty feeling, she said.

And she said, as for the relationship tipping point, she was pissed off by John wanting her to take surfing lessons after she learned how to skydive. She said, I knew nothing I did was ever going to be good enough. So she obviously, like, she took skydiving lessons for him and then he wanted her to take surfing lessons. And then she said, ultimately, it was really a blessing in disguise because I think I would have stuck it out longer than I should have. And she says that in reference to the fact that he broke up with her. And she said initially, after the breakup, it was the saddest she's ever been. But now she's in a very good place.

after a trip to Mexico and a secret hookup. She said the best way to get over someone is to get under someone. That's a, that's a quote. That's a, isn't that a lot? That's a lot of shoes. That's a T-shirt right there. The, you know, the next headline is, you know, Katie went on during this podcast. I guess you could just listen to Caitlin's podcast because there's a lot that she talked about

when it comes to Nick Vile when it comes to the, you know, the breakup when it comes to kind of the Nick Vile and Katie Thurston feud. Also, we have a headline here about Blake Horsman and Nick Vile feud. You can listen and pull all those things up to read them on your own here. Hello, buddy. But in short, Katie and Nick are still feuding and Blake and Nick are still feuding. They have not reconciled their differences. Yes. Blake was asked about it. about this on the red carpet at the VMAs, and he literally just said he's tried.

It's just not going to happen between the two of them. It's, like, rather exhausting. I just want to ask you, Ben, as somebody who's pretty good friends with both of them, what's your take? I just don't like they like each other. I mean, I don't know. I guess, like, you have, like, this big family.

You know, we all don't, we're not all going to get along. Yeah. I, you know, they were both at my bachelor party. I thought that could be a good way to reconcile. It didn't happen. It doesn't seem like. Friends with both of them, I think they're probably, I just don't, I think it's one of those things where you need to stop talking about the other person.

Like Blake needs to stop talking about Nick. Nick's thing needs to stop talking about Blake. They need to move on and understand that they're not going to see I die and they're not going to get along. And there's no healthiness or good things coming from them feuding publicly because it just ends up bringing up wounds, not only for them, but other people that have been affected because of their feud. And I think that's just unnecessary to bring, you know, to bring these things up, make them headlines. And then when these headlines come out, it mentions the reason why

they're feuding in the first place. And it's like, this isn't fair to that person, you know, and specific, I'm talking Kalen. Kalen gets brought up in these conversations when it's written about. It's like she's moved on. People need to move on. It's time to move on. When it comes to Katie and Nick, I don't know as much, right? I'm not around Katie.

Yeah, you don't need to comment personally on that one. Yeah. We all don't really know Katie personally. But the podcast with Caitlin obviously brings out what Katie feels is the details of this. So, yeah, that's what I think. I think they need to stop. That would be my friend opinion to the both of them.

Uh, next headline is this inside Joe and Serena's dreamy elevated boho engagement party. This is according to people. Yeah, one year after getting engaged in Bachelor in Paradise, they finally celebrated the milestone in Toronto, Canada at the one hotel that was initially like not part of their pre-wedding plans to have a party like this. Serena said, I think my parents originally brought the idea to us of a engagement party just because we had an unconventional engagement. We got engaged and it was secret for a long period of time. So this was a nice idea to bring some sort of family and close friends together to celebrate a whole year later. She says that it all happened so fast and now they're a year into it and they realize that their parents had never met in person. So this was a good way for their parents to meet and all their close friends to meet each other's close friends.

And they're happy that it finally happened, even if it was a little bit of a delay. She said that the elevated boho vibe, she loves it, is really beautiful space, lots of wood and greenery in a nice bar area. She said that that just, that like style elevated boho kind of encapsulates the couple's style together. Lots of little twinkly lights and candles and neutral colors. They wanted something soft and romantic while still looking luxurious and modern. They're also both huge foodies. We know Joe is. We just started selling his sauce Sundays with Joe at Audreys.

And they even had a sausage table, guys, that had a sausage stand of a whole bunch of different sausages with toppings. And Joe is also a huge cookie guy. So they had a nice little dessert spread there as well as charcutory board. So I'm obviously just painting a huge picture of what it looked like there at the party. So I wonder if their wedding will look very similar. happy for them. A beautiful, beautiful engagement they're having, obviously we were just with Joe at Wells and Sarah's wedding. He's looking stunning, looking good, being cool like he always is.

Well, hey, that's all we have for today. Bachelor Nation, we encourage you to keep listening to this podcast to hear what we attempt to have our most unbiased perspective on this show, both positive and negative. And quite frankly, I could have gone without this mental law. I feel like a lot of us could. So until next week, until when we break down the next episode, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.

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