The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Ben's Baby Shower with Jonathan Johnson
Episode Date: December 11, 2024Ben's Baby Shower continues with a hang with Jonathan Johnson from Jenn Tran's season of The Bachelorette! We revisit all the drama that went down at the mansion and Ben shares what he REALLY thought ...of Jonathan while watching from home!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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many stars outside there's so much good food outside bob and i can't wait to get out there but right now
we cannot wait to talk to jonathan from the previous season of the bachelorette gen trans season uh i call
jigity jay yeah that's what i was just trying to get to that and i couldn't remember what he calls
him yeah it's jiggity jay you call yourself jiggity jay i call him that i call him a little bit a little
no everyone else calls me i call him jiggity jay and he adopted that as his monica what does it come from
in my defense i did make it my instagram handle but i don't refer to myself as jiggity john
and i didn't come up with why don't you one of my best friends in childhood did there was just like a
random morning we're i think we're on like vacation somewhere and he came in after an out of drinking
and I was like I was just saying some some BS and he was just like shut up jiggity out of nowhere
just literally out of nowhere and I went oh my god from the old school bomb digity right
yeah I mean they were thinking about I'm aging myself yeah yeah you wouldn't have known that
sorry answer that all right so jiggity uh jiggity joe uh as we see here tonight jiggity jay
and we talk about your life post show you've been up to a lot um obviously my co-host who's not here
Night Ashley absolutely loves you. She picked you as her. He picked you. Um, and then we've been
covering every headline you make. And it feels like, I think Trista picked you as well.
Is she? Yeah. Actually, I think Trista picked you as well. But the show never picked you as
the bachelor. And so my first question was, is that disappointing? It's hard now that I've had
more time to think on it. Um, but I never had any expectation of it. You know, I went on with just
an open mind and like an open art. I was like, this is going to be a fun opportunity. And,
If I happen to find my person on here, cool.
Like, awesome.
There was no expectation of anything after the fact.
Did you feel like you found your person, though?
Did you feel like Jen was your person?
I mean, I think in the moment, yes, you know, you're kind of shut off in reality.
You have you and there's one other person to worry about.
Because we got kind of sucked into it, at least Tristan and I did.
Yeah.
We did a dancing with a star recap every week.
Yeah.
And we'd see you in the crowd.
We're like, oh, my God, it's happening.
Like, he's there supporting.
And is he going to fight Sasha?
Who knows?
Like, what's going to happen?
You know, we were like making up our own shit.
It's the next, like, Jake Paul,
is there the opener?
It's like, that would be jiggity.
But we were so, we were so concerned.
Even though we have no beef, I think it would be hilarious to do.
Because we thought you guys, like we thought that's why you were there and you were supporting
her as a friend.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
And that was the only reason I wanted to be there, too.
You know, she came to L.A.
And initially on the show, like, one of the things that kind of stuck out from us
of not working out was distance.
She was like, I would never want to move to L.A.
I don't like L.A.
And I was like, well, I'm not going to Miami.
Like, for obvious reasons.
No offense.
Miami.
As well,
Smith once said.
It's Spanish.
I don't,
buddy,
I speak as Spanish.
Yeah.
Louis-fluente.
But then she gets here and she's like,
oh my God,
I love L.A.,
but she doesn't have anybody.
So I was like,
you know what?
I want to step up
and just be that person.
You know,
you came off,
you went through a whirlwind of shit.
And I was like,
I have enough,
like,
availability and, like,
my heart to, like,
bring somebody else in
and, like, care for them,
especially if they don't have anybody.
So I just did my best
to be there,
for her and show her that somebody like does care that that's very nice so i like that yeah trista loved
like so i i wasn't as able because i have a couple little kids i wasn't as able to watch
jen's season as i wanted to be i thought she was lovely i thought you were definitely a standout
person on the show um i was i was surprised i will say i was surprised that you weren't the guy
in the end and i think that you know obviously it didn't work out for jen in that regard so that
was kind of a bummer.
Has there been any thought of revisiting that relationship?
I mean, has there ever been, you know, I mean, it doesn't have to be, has there
been anything during Dancing with Stars?
Her and I specifically?
Not really.
You know, it was a very platonic friendship.
I didn't want to put any of that pressure on her either.
And I don't think she was in a place for it at all.
And we both understood what we need to be there for each other for.
You know, I think a lot of people like to look for that.
I mean, that's why people watch The Bachelor.
Absolutely.
They want that love story.
The people who still believe in, like, that romantic love, that deep love,
that's what they watch because they still believe in it.
And they want for that to happen.
It didn't work out with the first two guys.
So they're like, all right, well, who's the next best option?
Which, like, once I started thinking, I was like, that's kind of shitty.
Like, I'm the next best option, which I didn't like to think about.
Yeah.
As long as I'm an option.
Come on.
But, like, in that scenario, you know, we were just platonic friends.
And I think we both knew, like,
we're going to have fun together.
Like, we're going to make videos together
because people love to see it.
And that's really it.
Like, it wasn't anything more than that.
It brings me to ask,
and we have to ask,
because of what we do for a living here.
Jen's season, I think,
will go down as history tells it,
as one of the oddest seasons
of all time within Bachelor Nation.
Yeah.
I think it was exciting.
I think people got into it.
I think it ended in a way that fans weren't,
thrilled about.
And then it just got weirder.
Like, you know,
Devin blew himself up 30 times posting.
It's wild.
So I want to hear from you,
your thoughts now as you look back on this experience
and being a friend,
platonic friend with Jen.
Yep.
How do you make sense of all?
Like, what do you make sense of, I guess,
in the midst of this chaos?
Well, and I would ask this, too,
like, were you in Devon?
and I'm sorry that I don't know this were you guys friendly like would you consider him a friend
and then watching how this whole thing unfolded were you like what the actual effing h is going on
like I mean were you kind of in the same ballpark as the rest of us watching or were you kind of
like I get him yeah you know I'd like to know that part too okay the gen part first though
because I think that's the most important part yeah I feel like it's a it's a long winded
but I know we're working on a time crunch so I want to try and take your time bring it together
a little bit we drink a tequila wait what was the gen part specifically well I just think
it's how do you make sense of this whole thing?
thing. You just went through it. It was your life. This was time is the most valuable resource we
have on earth. You spent your time on this thing. And now you look back and you go, what was this all
for? Because the whole thing got weird real fast and kept getting weird posts. Yeah. And so like
just overall, like what are your thoughts on it all? Honestly, I mean, for me, I just, on the show,
after the show, I stayed in my own lane. Like, I didn't get involved in any of the shit.
None of the drama. And I, that's just not me. Like, I don't walk.
into a room and try to big dick a bunch of other guys because I just don't care. Like,
I'm just going to live my life. I'm going to do me. And I'm confident enough in who I am
what I have to offer that. I'm just like, somebody doesn't want that. Like, that's fine. Somebody
else will appreciate it. And that's cool. So I never really thought, I guess maybe the way some
of them did where like, I'm going to be the best guy in this and I'm going to win her over
in this way and that way. And whatever, I was just like, okay, that's a bunch of noise.
Like, you guys do whatever it is that you think you need to do to impress this girl. I'm just
going to have fun with her and be me every time we hang out. And that's going to be my game plan.
And it worked out fine for me.
So trying to make sense of it,
I didn't really need to make sense of it
because it did make sense.
It didn't affect you.
It didn't affect me at all.
Like everybody else was on their own, whatever,
and I had me,
I had her,
and then there was a bunch of noise
trying to disrupt what we had,
but I just ignored it and it was fine.
Which is easier said than done.
Granted, much easier said than none.
It's a challenging environment.
And you have to be able to compartmentalize,
but you know what you sign up for
when you get into it.
Yeah.
So when you have that, like,
understanding, you kind of just like,
see, I love that you said that
because I think sometimes people don't remember
what they signed up for.
If you go on a show
and this girl, this gorgeous girl,
is dating 20 of your new buddies
or 30 or whatever the hell you remember is.
And it's like sometimes people get so pissed off
about that.
And it's like, dude, what do you think?
What do you think?
Yeah.
Like, we all know what we're here for.
Yeah, I would agree with that to a moment
and then say, Bob,
I don't know if you felt this way.
This was a huge chapter of my life.
Jiggity over here
is known for Jiggity Jiggetty J.
We all know Jiggy.
of this show.
Yeah.
And for me, the show, even though it's not influential as much in my life now,
it's still probably, to this day, a top three most impactful moment in my life.
Without question. Without. And so it's going to be a top four once you have your child.
Once I have my child. Yeah. But even if I wanted to move on and do my own thing,
I necessarily can't because that experience as a whole has still defined me.
Without question. And the people on that season has still defined me. And people still come up to me.
and say that season that you were on,
I remember for this reason,
resonates with me because of this.
And that's where my question was coming from
was your season historically will go down
as one of the most, not disappointing.
I don't want to use that word,
but maybe just like sad seasons
that I can ever remember
in terms of not only how it ended,
but then what transpired afterwards?
Yeah, the afterwards part.
And for you, yes, this is going to be
an impactful moment in your life.
You are a big part of this season.
Yeah.
And does that anger you at all?
I think, and this is the best part about playing my own game during and after the show,
is that darkness never consumed me.
I was aware of it, and I saw it, and I lived in it.
But it never, like, took over my image and who I was and what I was there to accomplish.
And I think people saw me as a light out.
Because that was my goal.
A good thing to come.
Exactly.
And I made that.
A very big point with me and Jen, too.
I was like, I want to be a breath of fresh air.
Every time we hang out, I don't want to trauma dump on you.
I don't want to put my issues on you.
I want to get to know you in a healthy way and a healthy manner.
And that's it.
And that was post show too.
After all the things from Devin, just everything that had happened,
I was just like, dude, I just want to be there for you.
And I want to be a positive way in this.
It's like, you know, if you're going to, if you're going to just focus on your personal relationship and you being you.
yeah it's actually pretty why it's a very wise thing because you still have to go home yeah you can't be
this douchebag who just dumps on people and then goes home and everyone thinks oh no it's cool we understand
you were playing a character on tv no it's still called reality tv it's still you so at the end of the day
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Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast,
so we'll find out soon.
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my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other,
but I just want her gone.
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Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person,
this is her boyfriend's former professor,
and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get
this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's
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I think it's a huge compliment to you
is that you can still be friends
with somebody who had such a hard ending
and you were a breath of fresh air
from that season for her
in a friendship way.
That's what Caitlin and I's relationship was
when I was on the bachelor's right.
We're still friends of this day
and that's something that's meaningful to me.
My wife knows that.
Like Caitlin Bristow's friendship with me
is meaningful to me.
It holds weight in my life
because if anything else
from that season,
at least she can look back
can say I made a friend through it.
Like, I had 30 dudes.
I made one friend.
That's cool.
And I feel we're going to be,
I'm going to be sitting in that exact same spot.
And I have that with Trista.
I have that with Trista to this day.
Same there.
I mean, we are still friends.
You know,
they even put me in a situation
where I had to host their Bachelor and Bachelorette party.
And it was they were,
it was all these producers swooping in time.
And I'm like,
I remember the look on my face looking at Trist like,
I'm sorry.
I don't even know why I'm asking the series of questions
I'm supposed to answer.
It's like crazy,
but it's like we're still friends to this day.
And so you can walk away with that, you know, you can still have that.
And I think years from now that will be really meaningful.
Now, we have a short amount of time with you.
I think one really unique thing that we want to tap into with you is if we looked at past seasons, Bachelor in Paradise would have always been something that people like you would have not only gone on, but fans would have flocked to cheering you on too.
Yeah. We know that Bachelor and Paradise.
is coming back at some level in some way in some way we don't know yet in what way that is yeah
would you say yes to it would be my first question this is a two-parter and uh does it excite you
to say yes to it or no to it well and i love that and also because you have watched other seasons
right so you would know that there could be potentially be some people that maybe you would
have interest in yep is that is that do you have
I got a quick answer for both.
Awesome.
Love it.
One, I've already been asked and I said yes.
Excellent.
On the mental wall.
Okay.
When we went over like my journey at the very end, Jesse pulled me on stage and he's like, well, it's good to hear, blah, blah, blah.
There's this beach and everybody, in my mind, I was like, I already did this.
I want to say no.
Like beforehand, I didn't know it was coming.
And then everybody's like cheering.
I'm like, well, shit, I got to go now.
So I go, yes.
What scares me is I do hear a lot of people saying people either go there to.
destroy their image or make up for it and I'm like I believe enough of myself and the decisions
I make that I don't think my image is going to be destroyed when I go you know I'm going to go
in with the right intention the right heart and hopefully it comes out okay destroy their image are the
people that are the image right the people that go there like honestly like why would you go there
and if you're if you're the nice guy well because you're not going to go there and wreck that's not true
Bob, because he could go to the beach
and all of a sudden, four
women are all like
a jiggity jing. Oh, jiggity.
I like you. Yes, the jigs.
They better not call me jiggity on the show.
What they did, though? Like, what's up jigs?
I mean, I'm sure it'd be great for the Instagram game,
but like,
but if they come on and they say, Jonathan,
I am so into you. And all of a sudden,
this poor guy is sitting in a place where he can't win.
Oh, so you guys are saying actually
they don't go on there with the intention to destroy.
They just happen.
They go on there and it does destroy it.
Exactly, and you can't make your mind up because there's four and like you feel, let's say I feel, like, I'm very empathetic. I feel bad. So like I try to like give them all a chance. And one of them would end up having a certain way to feel about me giving the other girls a chance. Yeah. And that's the clippable shit they want. And they're going to not going to look great. You, you had said something from your season. Yeah. When you said you went on with a plan. So I think that in and of itself is like, like I didn't have any plan. I went on and like, oh, I got my, I got my,
I'm going to come on this show and I'm going to have some cocktails.
I'm going to eat some, you know, appetizers and I'm going to maybe get a flour.
I want to eat some salami.
I'm going to eat some salami.
I'm going to make out of something.
You went on with a plan, right?
So you're already one step ahead of the game.
And I think all the people that come on this show now are one step ahead of the game.
They realize they need to have some type of plan.
So the fact that you would actually have a plan going on to a Bachelor in Paradise type of situation.
Well, I think in what he would be saying too is his plan is to be himself, which has worked out so far.
Yeah.
And so if your plan is to be yourself and going back to Bob's question,
I'm not letting you get out of that chair unless you give us a tune one name,
possibly three that you'd be interested in meeting on the beach.
You know, you're going to hate from me is I have, and that actually you're going to love this.
Well, you're going to love this in particular.
Are you talking about having a plan?
Yes.
Since the moment I was asked, my plan has to give no.
ammunition to anybody in the sense of if I say something now that can that will live on forever if I go
hey I'm excited to see Debbie right well now A or B has this in mind that they're going to get to
see me he's excited to see me and they could use that against you give it for me right and I want to go
in open minded openhearted and have somebody's excited to see me I would love that that's awesome I want
to meet you but I don't want to be caught in a position where I said something beforehand and now
I'm stuck to that thing when I've not met somebody.
So you're saying you haven't been to stage coach in the last eight months.
Stagecoach is the great undoing of all Bachelor of Paradise.
Of All Bachelor in Paradise going to stage.
We've had many an interview about that.
I have a hard rule in this office in festivals.
No buddy from Bachelor Nation at all.
No women.
Don't DM them, none of them.
That's going to get that weird love triangle picking out.
Gotta be honest.
I think that's going to fail miserably.
You think so?
Oh, my gosh.
They're not DMing anybody?
What's that?
Then not DMing anybody or not hooking up with anybody.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean the DMing part.
I just meant, like, you're saying that you're not going to cross paths with anyone.
No, I'm not going to hook up with anybody from, I'm going to cause zero.
Bob, it's a different world today than when we existed.
Wow.
Yeah, you have to understand.
No, no, but it's an amazing inner strength.
I'll just be honest.
Doing it, there's no solid proof that anything happened.
If there's text or DMs or whatever.
whatever, that will live on.
So you're saying as long as there's no photographic evidence,
then you're good with it.
Which happens at all times today.
Thank you.
There's no moments he could get past.
Bob,
you're still remembering your time where you're like,
it was hieroglyphics on the side of the cave.
You had to write a letter.
I did.
And send it out and say,
hey,
would you like to hang out Friday night?
I would lick the envelope.
I'd like,
FYI,
I'm going to get this music festival.
He's saying,
he's staying so clean from all this.
He's entering in the paradise
with this slate that is just,
white. And it's probably putting a target on my back
now that they're like, oh, we're going to get this mother
before he gets there. I like that too. And that's
amazing. This is because we'll watch it.
We won't watch it. We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it on the
AF. I'm so excited.
Yes, we got his ass. He thought he was saved, but he's not.
He tried so hard. He did so well.
The people outside of
the show, and not all of them, some of them have like
almost scared me into this belief too, which is
really shitty to say. Like,
There was a moment where I'm going to say two really quick ones.
There was a moment that I was at Starbucks with my mom.
And somebody took a picture of us having a conversation outside.
This is the local Starbucks by my house.
Took a picture of it, put it on Reddit,
and it was like Jonathan's having a heated argument with this woman.
Blah, blah, blah.
What a compliment to your mom.
Yeah, first of all, smoke show.
But then somebody goes, that's his mom.
And I'm like, it's weird.
Like, why are you photographing a conversation I'm having with my mom?
And then trying to pass it off is I'm having a conversation
There's some woman that we're having an argument in public.
It's my mom.
We're talking, literally just talking.
And there's been other ones where I've just been friendly to people in DMs.
I would never hang out with somebody that's a fan or like whatever, ever.
Again, to keep that clean slate.
And somebody thought that we had something like special and decided to come after me in comments and be like,
oh, you're a joke to think I was going to fly out there to like see you and this and that.
I'm like, I never said that.
friendly and we were talking about travel you're right yeah yeah and that is it and now i don't
respond to the internet there's no way to stay above the frame in that regard because you can't
other people's twisted imagination you can't live up to that that's that's going to be their
own thing yeah at the end of the day stay true to you be the jiggity jay that we've come to know
and love right i mean i love it i think about you doing so much from this season of paradise now
because wells is one of my best friends in the world course you just met him uh you need to lean on
wells when you're down there it was my own but i cannot wait to watch and
And I hope they don't get them.
I really hope they don't.
I hope they don't go after him.
I want to find somebody great there.
I don't want to get caught up in the show.
He wants to actually meet somebody.
So let's just put it over the,
because we have a lot of know.
Don't drink Wells Manhattan's because those are disaster.
Are they?
But we have a lot of listeners to this show.
So a lot of people is going to hear it.
We're going to hear it right now and put it in stone
because it's going to protect you.
Yeah.
Is like don't go after this guy.
Like he wants to meet somebody.
He's trying to keep himself clean.
He's just being a nice guy.
Leave a jiggity jay.
So if the show goes after him as fans,
because we have a lot of the fans that listen.
We rebel against that.
We stand up and say that's not true.
We're on Team Welles and Team Jiggity Jank.
Yeah.
And we just want them,
we want them to be friends
and we want love to come from it.
And the second thing is
I cannot wait to watch this season of bad eyes.
It's going to be great, too.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just.
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Oh, hold up.
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That seems inappropriate.
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