The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Beyond the Bachelor: Carly Monzo

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

You might think you saw everything on Joey Graziadei’s season of The Bachelor, but we’re going BEYOND the mansion and talking to the people that know him best! Susie Evans is hanging out with Joey’s sister Carly Monzo and hearing stories from growing up, what Joey was like before “The Bachelor”, and she reveals the advice she gave Joey before going on the show! Plus, find out what it’s REALLY like having a close family member become the lead on The Bachelor!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh, my God, perfect.

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experience for him um i we joke that we my sister and i thought that he either was going to go home night one or he was going to make it to the very end so we were right that is amazing and honestly it can go either way that's what's so funny and crazy about The Bachelor is like people can go home night one and then you meet them and you're like, oh my God, you're a wonderful human. How did you not make it past that first night? And I really think just depending on The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, like it can determine so much about the outcome. So it's funny that he made it all the way in a different world. He could have been out there. I know. I was so nervous because it was such a risk to go and leaving his career on the

back burner for a little bit. And as we got closer to the premiere, I was like, just make it through the first night and get one rose because I didn't want him to be embarrassed that he went on the show, but obviously it worked out very well. Totally. And honestly, it is so vulnerable. It's like really, truly putting yourself out there. Was that weird at all? Like, it's your brother and you're seeing him, like, fall in love, go on dates, kiss somebody. Like, was it weird at all? Or was it just, like, so cute? He's your little brother, right? Yes. Yeah. My little brother. Yeah. Yeah. um it was very weird watching him i think the excitement wore off like in once we got to the second episode because i think i'm thinking back now but on the bachelorette there was some like kissing date

he did where it was the longest kiss or something yeah and we were like no this is not fun anymore this is getting so uncomfortable um so yeah that part was a little uncomfy yeah super excited i think my biggest concern was just seeing what people's interpretation of who he is as a human being on the show, us knowing him and how amazing he is. You never know what other people's

viewpoints are going to be. So I think it was more so nerves from that standpoint. Kind of took over everything else because I just wanted to protect him, but I wasn't, obviously wasn't there and it's all been filmed already and you're just reliving it. So it was the whole thing was a little bit nerve-wracking. Right. That's so wild. Yeah. And it's crazy because you don't know what they're going to show versus what they're not going to show. So even if you know your brother's character, like it could get chopped up a thousand different ways and people can perceive it however. But obviously everyone loved Joey. I feel like sometimes I'm like, oh my God, he like saved the franchise. It's coming back. Like everyone loved him and like on The Bachelorette. But then when he was the Bachelor, I think The Bachelor is like an impossible job. I don't think that most people come.

away liked because it's one guy dating a ton of girls like nobody wants to see that i mean we do but like yes we do but we don't yeah so he navigated it so well it was like so impressive because i feel like to this day he has like such a good standing with the the fan base and people outside of the fan base um were you guys come i mean you knew he made it quite far obviously but were you completely shocked when you realized like oh my gosh joey's about to be the bachelor? Was it, did it like shake your family's household? Was everyone supportive? Or was there ever a discussion of like, is this the best choice? I think we were all supportive. Joey tried to kind of keep it under wraps as much as possible. I think I think all the conversations he was having,

because I think he talked to a few leads from the past or people who were almost leads and weren't leads and just the whole process and everything being so unknown until the last minute. I think he was trying to balance getting his hopes up for an exciting opportunity versus this they might be talking to multiple other people. So he really only talked to me about it to bounce things off of and didn't disclose too much to my family. But I think he also didn't want to get their hopes up because I think everyone was just so excited for the opportunity. Yeah, I don't think, I truly don't think anyone challenged him to the point where we thought it wasn't. a good idea for him. I think we saw how much we joke when we saw him at hometowns for charity season

that he just went to like an all inclusive like intensive therapy session because he was like the best version of himself when we met him. We were like, this is Joey on steroids because you're just so removed from being on your phone all the time, getting into just that normal rut of going to work coming home. sitting on the couch. Like, it was just so insightful, I think, for him working on himself, figuring out what he wanted in the process of dating charity with a bunch of other guys. But I think knowing how much he grew from the Bachelorette and this opportunity, I don't

think he ever would have been able to turn it down for the reason being what if. I don't think he could have watched the show back, declined the position, and then seen Kelsey on the TV and would have been like I could have had the chance to date her and be engaged to her. So I think that outweighed everything and we were just really excited for him. That's so cool. That's really cool insight. Do you have any behind the scenes tea that you can share whether it was like something that maybe people don't know about your experience, like when you got to go film and because you did hometowns and then obviously, well, double hometowns essentially. So, like, behind the scenes tea, or just like what was the most shocking thing that you saw that you're like, oh, I didn't realize this is what went into reality television.

Just having all those cameras in front of you is so shocking the first time that it happens. So for charity season, we were just, it was so nerve-wracking. And it was crazy by the end of the night. You started to like not care or realize that they were there. So that was shocking to me, how easy you can just start. to be yourself in such a crazy situation. I think something that we joke about and laugh about rather with Joey all the time is when we went to Mexico for Joey's Meet the Family episode.

He, the way they had set it up, Joey came in first and told us who we were going to be meeting. So he talked about his final two ladies that were there, explained them, like who they were why he why these two women were the last people there and then I think we had and I apologize because I feel like I like black out certain things because it was yeah but I think we took a break after he told us who the two girls were um before we actually met the first one and my sister and I went we like fix our lip gloss before we went back on camera and we looked at each other and we were like it's Kelsey like we knew before meeting them just how he talked about her you're like he is clearly so in love with her so I think it really shaped kind of the direction

of my conversations with the two of them because I feel like for Daisy I was trying to see if there was something that maybe Joey wasn't seeing or if there was things that he had questions about versus Kelsey I feel like they show so little of the conversation. we had. But I feel like my sister and I were very, not harder, but I think we're trying to dig a little bit deeper to make sure, like, he seemed so sure already before even meeting her. So I think we were probably a little bit tougher in conversation with her. But I always think about that before we even met them. My sister and I looked at each other and we were like, it's Kelsey. We know it's Kelsey. I love that. That's like very special that you guys were able to kind of tell, even just by the way he was

talking about her because obviously the show has to sort of mislead the audience like that was one thing that was really hard watching back the season that I was on it was like you're seeing things unfold and you're like wait this isn't how I mean it is but it's not how I remember it exactly but you understand like once you're in it that the production side of things like they have to kind of mislead viewers or else it's not exciting so I don't particularly remember exactly the conversations I don't remember you being hard on Kelsey, but it is interesting that you guys were like, okay, we really have to get in there and like just make sure that this is all going good. And obviously, Joey was a fan favorite, but so were you.

Like, what were your thoughts when people were like tweeting and going on Instagram talking about you? Obviously, we know you've been married for like four years now, correct? Yes. So you're not a possible contender, but some of people were like, oh, my God, we need to get Joey's sister on the show. Yes, it was, we just laugh about it. My husband and I have been together for 13 years. We went to high school together, so we've been together for a very long time. So it's just funny.

It's just, I still feel a little bit of imposter syndrome maybe and just confused. I understand why everyone follows along with Joey and Kelsey. but I still just get all these people that are following me or the craziest thing that random brands would want to send me things and I'm just like why why do you want to do that and it's and I'm I'm enjoying it it's fun and it's um I mean I'm I'm having fun with it it's just I still when I make a video for something I'm so confused why people are watching I love that no it's because you're fabulous like the people loved you we were like Give us more.

We want more. Thank you. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.

Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?

Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzo. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...

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Each week we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out. Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on exactly right. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. I see like TikToks of you and Kelsey now. Obviously you guys have a great relationship, which is so amazing. Like that's such a big part of like bringing somebody into your life is like knowing that they're going to get along with your family. And so I want to hear about your relationship with Kelsey a little bit. Yes. I am obsessed with Kelsey. I similarly to Joey, I think it was definitely was

taken out if I'm a little bit being on a show on reality TV. But the two of us are definitely Definitely gravitate to be more introverted people can be very much home bodies, like go with the flow where don't need to have, you know, a crazy night out planned every single weekend. Kelsey and my husband, Zach, are the polar opposite. So they want to stay out until the bar closes. They want to buy everyone's shots. They're ready to have so much fun every night. And Joey and I are like, we finish our drink. We'll go home.

Like you guys can stay out. So the four of us together just have the same sarcasm and sense of humor. And it's so important just for those little moments as a family when you're playing games or just like sitting on the couch. Our personalities all just mesh so well. So because she reminds me so much of my husband, I obviously love her. We get along very, very well. But she just bounces off of our family. energy so well. She got to meet our entire extended family. My grandma had passed away a few weeks ago,

and she came to the funeral, met my entire side of the family. Everyone was obsessed with her. She fits in just perfectly. So I love her. I'm very, all I tell Joey all the time, all I ever wanted was to be best friends with his soon-to-be wife. So I feel very lucky that we have that. Wow. That just gave me chills. Like that's so special. That's so nice. It does make a big difference when somebody's ability to kind of like fit in with your family. Like it just makes it makes it so much easier and it just brings a lot of happiness. Like it's so nice when you can just like hang out as a family and it doesn't feel like there's a weird dynamic. Like it sounds like she just fits right in. So that's amazing. Absolutely. So since you are married and you've

been been together for quite a while. What advice did you give Joey before he left for the show? I think a lot of different advice, but I think just I wanted him to be himself. And I think he had never watched the show before he went on. So we always joked, oh, Joey, we're going to nominate you to go on The Bachelor one day. And we did not nominate him. A producer had reached out to him in his DMs, but I think my mom did not believe me for a long time. She swore I nominated him because we would joke about it all the time. I was like, I really didn't. But it was an amazing opportunity. I think the advice was just to be himself. And I had explained, sometimes there's a villain on the season. And sometimes people can be depicted in different ways, even if that's not truly who they are.

So I just wanted him to protect his heart, be cautious of people around him, be trusting, but maybe not too much of not the lead in the process of the show, but just the producers and the other men that were there. Like, you don't know people's motives for going on the show, but I just wanted him to be himself. And I feel like that's exactly what he did. And I don't think you could have spun him any other way than that because he was himself. And then I think when we saw him for charity's hometown, when he came home to us, I remember him just talking about how serious it was. And I remember telling him that it was hard for me to give the advice because I didn't want him to be heartbroken at the end, but he was really teetering between kind of guarding

his heart versus like really going all in to get to the point to be able to be engaged or to propose. I was like, you have to go all in. Like if you don't, you're going to regret it, you're either going to be so heartbroken and we'll be here to help you after or you're going to get to the point where you might be engaged. So obviously his heart got broken, but it led him to where he's at now. But I think my advice was if he really felt that that person that he was pursuing was worth it. And he felt a future that he had to go all in and kind of risked at all, I wish I think he did. Wow.

That's the best advice. That is the best advice I think I've ever heard anyone say because it is so weird when you get to the end. And I'm sure he experienced this too, but you kind of like you feel like you're falling in love. But you're realizing like there's two or three other people on the same trajectory. And like, yeah, it's so hard to like really put your guard down. but it's so amazing when you do because obviously with Joey like everyone that's the thing is everyone saw his heart and everyone as a viewer fell in love with who he was and was like we want to see you win in another aspect like we want we want you to be the bachelor and we want you to

like find somebody so that you can have this experience and have it be that happy ending so that's honestly like the best advice I think I've ever heard anybody get it's really cool How did you guys as a family navigate the scrutiny that comes with being on the show? Because obviously you guys were all very much loved, but no matter how loved you are, there's always going to be people that are haters or trolls or whatever. Yeah, I try. I definitely would have fun on the night of the episode airing going on Twitter and following what people were saying because the memes that people post are so funny.

So that was just like part of the fun experience of it all, especially when Joey was there with us watching it because as you talked about, they cut so many things out. So when he was there with us on a Monday night watching it, I think it was easier to process because I could obviously see what's being aired on TV, but I could also hear straight from him what he said or like what the dynamic of that conversation was. and then I really tried to cut off looking at things on the internet after just that night on Twitter. I made the mistake of looking at Reddit before and I was so angry. It's horrible. It's so crazy. And for the most part, like we talked about, things were so positive towards Joey.

But it was the comparison of the way. women that were on the show. And I think there was spoilers out that Kelsey wasn't the person who was engaged to Joey. And I think there was like just so much speculation between the girls. And I know Kelsey was involved in that. And I just already felt protective of her. So I think I just, I had to not look at it because I can't fight with them in Reddit on Reddit. So I think the way to deal with it was just getting the information from the source,

which was Joey who was physically there and then just trying not to listen to it. But I cannot take for granted the fact that there truly was like there wasn't a lot to work with for Joey. So I was good. I was good. If people were going to be coming at him and like really commenting on his Instagram or things that were in my site, I would have made so many burner accounts and I would have been fighting with people all day. Like I would have been going crazy. I love that. That's how my girlfriends are back home as well. Yeah. And honestly, me too sometimes. people are in my comments. I'm like, let me give you a little something. Like, I'll give you something to talk about. Um, I know. Um, or you just like pin the comment and then like people in

the comments will do it for you and you're like, yeah, I didn't even have to like do anything because Bachelor nation has so many homies that look out for us. Yeah. But, um, no, it's so true. Caitlin Bristow always uses this term, um, shopping for hate. And it's so true because if you go looking for it, you can find it. Like it's so easy to find. I think that's very healthy. The perspective you took and like implementing those boundaries because it can be so wild coming off the show and even being off the show and like if you don't if you don't have the mental strength to like put in those boundaries for yourself like you're always going to be reading horrible things about yourself online because it's it's going to be out there um but if you just don't allow yourself

to access it like and if they are coming on your page that's different but if you go looking for it like you are going to find it so if you don't go looking for it. It pretty much doesn't exist. Like, it's not real. It's literally a fantasy world that people are living in discussing things that are factually incorrect. It is so wild to me. But it can be so tormenting to your mental health. So I love that you were able to like catch that early on and be like, yeah, I'm probably not going to go looking for this. But I do love. It sounds like you are such a like a real one for Kelsey. It sounds like you were already protective of her and love to us, that is just, like, it just speaks to y'all's relationship

and to you as a person as well. It's so nice. It's so, it's just, it's, it's truly crazy to me how drastic, how drastically different it is for men and women on the show. Even today, like, people come at the craziest stuff on Kelsey's TikToks or Instagrams. Yeah. Just don't look at it. Why are you watching it? I don't understand. I don't understand it, but I think just the comparison between what it's always like it's always women doing it to other women and I think for the there's just there's less to work with so on that end Joey was good it was more so I wanted to try and protect Kelsey's heart and it's just it's hard that's very sweet and it's yeah it's so wild yeah the women that there are so many women that will just come for you somebody said

recently and this I feel like this is taking a dark turn but I'm like somebody said recently no one hates women like women hate women and I was like oh my gosh like that is so true like the amount of women that have been just yeah horrible to other women whether like it's experiencing it myself being on the show or seeing it happen in real time watching the show it is so wild but again kind of like what you said earlier like we can't also we can't ignore that there are so many wonderful people as well that do come and like fight the fight for us and they're like this is not appropriate like why are you commenting this but it's it is crazy that people that it will attract um to just be so like wildly opinionated in a negative

way but um i wanted to know what have you been up to you like obviously i see that brands are reaching out to you and you're like posting some cool videos on social media and i love seeing it um i think everyone if you have if you appreciate and enjoy social media i'm like everyone should be doing social media it's such a fun cool thing to be a part of um what else have you been up to since the show. I just am still working my full-time job, obviously. So I am a geriatric social worker. I work in an assisted living facility. So that's what I do by day. And then I have the luxury of working a four-day week. So I work for 10-hour days, which is amazing. So I can utilize my day off or the weekends or in the evenings. I'll do make little videos, post them throughout the week. So

it's a lot of work. I give these people so much credit who do social media and everything full time. It's like these little videos you make take so long. And then again, I overthink what I'm doing. So I'll edit it and change it and do it again. So yeah, I have my job. That's my career that I love. But this has definitely been something fun on the side to be doing. But again, just such imposter syndrome doing it. It's just for fun. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.

Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her. gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and

they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. I feel like most people in social media probably have that same feeling where it's like, what am I agreeing? Like, this is something, but it's so fun. So I think why not? But wait, okay, geriatric social worker. How did you get involved?

Like, how did you find that as your passion in your career? Yeah. So I went to college for social work, and you can do so many things with social work. You can work with kids. You can work with homeless people. You can work with people who suffer from domestic abuse. You can work in everything. I was so close to my grandparents growing up in high school.

I volunteered at nursing homes. I just love that generation, that population. So I just knew I wanted to work with elderly people, but I did not want to be a nurse. I couldn't deal with that. from a clinical standpoint. So this was just a different path I could go down to work with that specific population. So that's what drove it. I went to school for social work and then just right out of college, worked in a nursing home

and then an assisted living and inpatient geriatric rehab. So I've just always worked with that population. But I went to school for it. Oh, my gosh, amazing. And also, I know you mentioned your grandmother passing. I'm so sorry. Yeah, thank you. see on your social media that you guys got a tattoo? Yes, we did. What does it say? I will butcher it. We are

Italian, but I do not speak Italian. My grandma, we have this video of my grandma when I was younger that I took her for, she said she wanted the words peace and joy in Chinese. And my cousins and I were all together for her funeral. We're like, we should get this tattoo, but I have no connection to Chinese writing. So I took a bunch of old cards that she had written me and we translated Peace and Joy in Italian. It's Pache I Gioia. So we just took cards and took a P and an A and a C and just my sister traced it on tracing paper in her handwriting. So then all of our cousins. We got her tattoo. We just put a little twist on it. I love it. I think she'd like that even better. You know, like yeah she would have gotten it 100% oh that's so cool I love that well I am so glad that we got

to chat with you today actually before we go since there's a new season happening right now with all the boys that may listen to this who knows maybe they'll be curious but what advice would you give someone going on the show that's watching it back right now like what advice would you give them just for like how to navigate this process the guys that are watching it like watching themselves Yeah, maybe the guys in Jen and Jen. I think for everyone just to not to take it too seriously and to remember that you signed up for a show and it's reality TV and they're trying to make good TV at the end of the day. So I think just being able to laugh at yourself is super important. I think for Jen, she's doing amazing. I think I saw something that the ratings went up and everything. So I'm excited for her. I think for the guys specifically, the final two, because I think getting to see both perspectives, Joey being, I hate to say like runner up, but the person that did not get engaged versus being able to see how Kelsey navigated being the person that was, is now engaged.

I think it's harder sometimes, at least in my opinion, for the person that is actually engaged to watch everything back versus the person who is not engaged at the very end is having self-reflection and realizing you were just there for such a short amount of time and hopefully that person has a good family and friend support system to help them work through that but I think for the person that is engaged just to again remember they're not showing your whole love story they have to show other people's I think that's really difficult because you have to kind of watched their whole season. I don't think it's a bad idea to not watch every episode or to just watch the parts that that specific person, if Jen is engaged, just the parts that

they're in together. I just think it's so hard to navigate. And I think just giving yourself the freedom to laugh some things off and not take things so seriously because it's, it's definitely they want to make good TV, which they do a very, very good job of. So I think just taking things not so seriously, if possible. If easier said than done, I don't think I could have ever done it. Yeah, it's tough. But that's really good advice. And hopefully they are listening and hopefully they can take that to heart.

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