The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Beyond the Bachelor: Chris Lane

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

Susie Evans is taking you behind the roses and Beyond the Bachelor when she hangs out with country star Chris Lane! You might remember his performance on Nick Viall’s season, and Chris reveals why singing on The Bachelor is unlike ANY other show he’s done before! But Chris’ Bachelor connection goes further than just providing entertainment on one of Nick’s dates, and we hear all about his romance and his “big big plans” with Lauren Bushnell. Plus, we get Chris’ reaction to Ben’s comment on a throwback photo of the two guys with Lauren.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, hello, you are listening to Beyond the Bachelor. This is your host, Susie Evans, and today we have a really exciting guest. Today we have on Chris Lane. He performed for her on Season 21 of The Bachelor. It was Nick Vial's season, and today we are going to chat all. things, music, career, Bachelor, and even a little bit of a hot topic. He posted a picture not too long ago, including his wife, Lauren, and Ben Higgins. At the time, they were engaged, and it kind of ruffled some feathers in Bachelor Nation. So we're going to hop right in.

You performed for her on season 21 of The Bachelor for Nick Fial. What was it like to bring your music into reality TV? And did that environment provide new community and new listeners for you? Yeah, so that that was quite some time ago. I wonder what season he was a part of because that's been at least, what, six, seven years ago, maybe. It was season 21 and I think they're on, I want to say they're on season 28 or 29. I always forget, but it's been a minute. Been a hot minute.

So that was the second song ever that I had out on the radio. So it was still very young in my career. I felt like in the moment, it was a really good moment for me. I mean, any TV time, I feel like always helps. And I remember the day after that aired, the song went crazy on iTunes. That was, that's how long ago it's been. That's when people actually got bought songs on iTunes. Right.

That is wild. So, yeah, it really helped out a lot just getting that exposure. I think it went a lot different than I was expecting, just because I haven't done a whole lot in TV up to that point outside of like playing on Jimmy Fallon or somewhere like that. It was like one of the only other TV performances I had done. So kind of getting exposed to that audience. I feel like I've learned just from my wife stuff that The Bachelor Nation is a real thing.

And yeah, it turned out to be a great opportunity for me, and especially early my career like that. Mm-hmm. That's so awesome. Yeah, because you kind of popped off right before performing on the show. I feel like, from what I understand, it was like the year before you kind of dropped your, was it your, I don't know if it was your first single, but it was like your first single that was really, really took off, right? Yeah, a song called Fix, which Fix and For Her, both of those songs were on my first album. Fix was my first number one on the radio. And then For Her was kind of that second song we had released out there. And yeah, man, it's crazy to think back that far, but those were some good times. Yeah, good times. Exciting times, especially, you know, again, getting that opportunity felt like a really great opportunity at the time. And it played out great.

That's so awesome. Did you have any behind the scenes insight that you feel like you could share with the viewers? Like, I feel like people always want to know I was on the show a few years ago and people are always like, is it real? is it scripted and obviously if you've been on set you know it's not scripted certainly produced but do you have any behind the scenes tea that you can share with people um you know what remembering back to that night i think from my perspective because i didn't know how it worked um it was a little different than i was expecting in the sense of i guess they needed to make sure that they got all the right shots so we had to redo it several different times which was kind of funny in the moment you

know luckily I got to play in front of a crowd full of people so I didn't just play one song which you know it kind of comes off that way if you're watching on TV it's like I'm there waiting just to play one song for them as they walk in it was completely different than that I played a whole concert to a crowd full of people and and then Nick and I believe he was on a date with the girl Danielle at the time they walk in obviously everybody screaming they come down they do they dance to the song in front of everybody uh up on a platform which i honestly i was already like had a smile on my face where they were doing that because it kind of felt i'm sure for them probably a little awkward yeah in the moment um but then after the

song they stop and they're like all right we need to redo it so they take everybody back out and like bring them back in and then everybody's got to like scream for them again and i just i wasn't expecting it to go that way. And I guess you got to do what you got to do to make sure you get the right shots on TV, right? That's so true. That reminds me when I was on the show. I had a performance like that and we had to do it like three or four times.

And I felt every time I got more embarrassed because I was like, it was so special the first time and I don't want to come off. It's insincere and walk back in and be like, oh, I've already seen all this. So you like have to like kind of act a little bit. But I'm like, can you use the first take? because that was like real, but it's kind of uncomfortable. But it's nice that you're just getting to do a real performance, not have to recreate the same song over and over again.

That would have been wild. I can't imagine being in y'all's shoes in that moment. Yeah, I would, I don't have the personality to, I wouldn't be good at faking it, I guess is what I'm trying to say. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately, from Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.

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With raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't audition in like over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah. We've got some of the biggest actors, musicians, content creators, and culture shifters,

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But the whole pretending and code, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of my Cultura podcast network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.

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podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so I'm curious. So you have, obviously, a big crossover with Bachelor Nation, having performed on it, obviously being married to Lauren. Do you guys ever watch the show together anymore? Yeah, it took quite some time, even when we first started dating. We never watched it. And a lot of that in part because, you know,

I'm spending 200 some days out on the road a year and we just didn't watch a lot of TV. Like when we're at home, we try to go to dinner somewhere and spend time together. And it wasn't always watching TV, you know. Yeah. But I would say over the last couple of years, we've definitely caught probably the last two or three seasons. And then I think this past year we watched, is it Bachelor in Paradise? Is that what they call it? Yeah.

I mean, I have to say I'm always thoroughly entertained in the best way. It's fun to watch from week to week. So even if we're not at home on a Monday night, we'll usually record it and find time to either catch up on it sometime that week or maybe I'm at home on Monday the following week and we try to catch up to it. But, you know, having two kids under two, it's hard to watch any TV. And by the time we get them down at night, we're like, oh, my gosh, I need a mental break to get some sleep.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I can only imagine. I have a niece and nephew that are around that same age. I'm curious, so most of your career, you probably were writing love songs or heartbreak songs. Have your kids inspired any music that you have either put out or that you're going to put out soon? Yeah, I wrote a song a couple months before Dutton was born, our first called Ain't even met you yet. It was just all those emotions I was going through. about to be a dad for the first time.

And I wrote that song for him. I feel bad for Baker being the second born. I feel like I need to write one for him. Yeah, you have to. I'm sure more will come. I can recycle that one for him. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, my kids definitely inspire me.

That was one song in particular. And I have another one that I just wrote and I put out on my Instagram not long ago, maybe last week at some point that I got. some incredible feedback on one called two by fours and four by sixes which is uh it's just a demo right now i would have to record it but i wanted everybody to get a little snippet of it and to hear it and give me their feedback and i feel like i got great enough feedback that i plan on recording it but it's kind of inspired just by uh you know i wrote big plans for lauren and it's kind of just big plans 2.0 but like uh where life is right now um so i feel like lauren and the boys definitely

inspired that one as well that's cool that gave me chills because I actually wanted to ask about big, big plans. Obviously, you played that at your proposal. Is that right? To Lauren. Okay, so how, I mean, I am not a songwriter, so I feel like I don't even have the context to ask the question, but I'm like, how does it, how do you write a song like that? Like, how does it come to you?

Do you sit down or were you inspired by a certain moment with Lauren that made you just, like, did it just flow out of you? How did it work? yeah um so when i sat down to write this song originally it was honestly just another love song um and i did that that uh didn't start out in a way that i said i was going to propose using this song right um so it took several times to finish the song because i didn't know where to take the last um verse but the guys that i wrote the song with we got that together we were writing a completely different song. We were like, let's finish this one. And I said, hey, I do plan on

proposing potentially in a couple months from now. What if we wrote a proposal in the third verse? I was just thinking of it. This is a creative way to propose because Lauren had already given me strict instructions that if I were to ever propose to her, it better not ever be on stage in a stadium or anywhere like that. She wanted to be super private. So I thought, What would be a unique way to do that? And the third verse just flowed out incredibly fast, like 30 seconds, as fast as you could just write something down. And I wrote, I told the guys, this is exactly what I plan on doing.

We're going to be in her parents' backyard. I want to ask her parents if that's okay. And I did it there on Father's Day. Her dad was all in on it. And the way I set this up was, you know, I would go write songs. during the day, and I'd come home that afternoon, and I would play Lauren the song that I wrote that day, and she'd give me her opinion on it, whether she loved it or not. And I was on tour of Brad Paisley at the time, and I played up in Portland, Oregon, the night before I proposed.

So it made it easy for me to disguise what was going to happen. She had no clue what was happening. So the way I was able to record it without her realizing what was going on is, at the time, we had been talking about doing this YouTube series not reality thing but just like creating like a small little YouTube thing for the both of us. And I said, why we're there

since I'm playing with Brad Paisley the night before and we're going to be at your parents' house celebrating Father's Day, why don't we have my camera guy come over there and just capture the day with your family in case we ever wanted to use that on our page? So that's how I disguised it. She had no clue.

She just thought that they were there doing that. Genius. Yeah. And then I set the song up exactly like I would if we were chilling in the house. I was like, oh, my gosh, we just got this demo back of a song I wrote, I want to play. And we had a speaker out there. And her family knew when I said that moment, everybody just kind of come around and nonchalantly kind of listen. And so I was playing it.

The first two verses happened. I can't tell whether she likes the song or not. But I leaned over, I said, baby, it's my favorite part because I needed to make sure that she was listening. I'm about to propose in this last verse. And I kind of blacked out from there. I remember her putting her hands over her mouth. She's like, oh, my gosh, this is happening. I grab her hand and walk her out to the yard.

And right as I was about to get down on my knees, I was barefoot that day. I stepped in a massive dog turd, proposed with the turd in between my toes. No. Oh, my gosh. oh yes her her parents little corgi dogs must have done some damage out there right before that happened now i didn't know it because we'd been playing uh we'd been playing cornhole in that same area all day long that is actually so funny and it kind of makes the proposal better in my opinion i feel like that just adds an element of like humor to it that it's like it's just so funny

yeah somebody said uh i hear that's good luck and i have no clue how that could ever be good luck i don't know but honestly it looks like it's working so something about it must have brought you guys some good juju yeah she she she helped me uh clean it off after that and i'm like wow this is uh what a way to propose got the song also got a whole different aspect of it i was not expecting that is so funny so i'm curious when when it happened did you acknowledge it or did you just keep walking no i i did not acknowledge it until after uh she's said yes and then I looked down I'm like please do not be what I think this is and it sure was that is so funny I literally blacked out in the moment like I couldn't remember anything that

I wanted to say I had this whole thing that I wanted to say I never said one word of it I just whatever came out came out in that moment and the best part about all of this is now that that song it was never intended to get out there it was just a moment for her and I so the fact that people loved it so much and ended up making it a number one for me was pretty crazy because I never expected that when I again never planned on even releasing the song but since the release of that song it helped me take a next big step in my career so I'm incredibly thankful for that obviously it was incredible for my life and then I get to watch guys on a nightly basis while I'm out on tour

where people are always hitting us up saying, hey, I want to propose on stage to big plans. And it's my favorite thing that happens not every single night, but a lot of nights because I get to watch guys go through what I went through when I proposed. I mean, when I hand them a microphone, it's definitely different than proposing in her parents' backyard than it is on stage or the microphone in front of a crowd full of people. I watch guys blackout, not know what they're saying. and obviously I had just gone through that so I can feel what they're going through

but you hand somebody in microphone they forget to talk into it like it's funny it makes for an incredible moment on stage on most nights that's so cool and it's because even as you were talking about the song and like how you weren't going to release it it's crazy because that's a song that you know me as somebody that's not in a relationship

or whatever but you hear that song and you're like this is what I hope somebody feels for me someday and this is what I hope to feel for somebody somebody someday, like it's such a beautiful song that it's interesting as like normal people, we can't, you know, create art that expresses how we feel in a way that artists can. So it's really cool that you did put it out there. It's even cooler that it was meant to be just something for her. And it's taken your career to the next level.

And it's become this thing that people can, like, will come and propose at your shows. Like, that is so beautiful and cool. I can't imagine what that must feel like. Yeah, I think as a songwriter first, it makes it extra special and you see people connect to a song in that way. You know, I had songs like Fix, which is just an uptempo, like feel good song or her kind of love song, take that home girl. I don't know about you, but this one in a different way connected with people. And when you sit down to write songs, it's what you're hoping to write every time is just a song that connects in the way that this one did. Right. So I was very happy about that. Amazing. Okay, so you kind of mentioned that Lauren wanted something really private for her proposal and obviously coming from The Bachelor, it's not a real private lifestyle sometimes. Like everyone wants to know not just about your personal life, but specifically your dating life and your love life. Like that becomes such a curiosity point for people. How do you guys balance obviously having a public relationship?

because people are just going to be curious and you're both public figures and also like keeping your privacy and keeping things to yourself. Like how do you like did you have trouble navigating that or did it come pretty natural? Yeah. I feel like it kind of, uh, in reality came pretty, pretty natural in the sense of I feel like before I met Lauren, I was pretty open, um, you know, whether it be on Instagram or just even out in public. But then when I met her, um, you know, She had been, I would say even more so in the public eye than even a country artist is because you're on in front of the TV, in front of millions of people every single week. And when I met her, obviously, it was a long time after the show.

I mean, probably what, six or seven years off the show. I could be way off there, but it felt like it was a long time. But I guess as like an influencer or however how you want to say it, she was used to kind of putting her life out there a little bit more and we share the things that we want to share and keep private the things that we don't want to share, but it's never been that hard of a balance for me. I think now more so than ever over the last two years, I haven't been able to share as much as I want because I feel like I'm so exhausted from the two under two aspect. I know Lawrence is kind of the same way. You don't even think about jumping online and posting a whole bunch of stuff. We're kind of seeing that light at the end of the tunnel now. So we're posting a little bit more than what we were.

But yeah, I think it's pretty easy. You just share the things you want to and the things you want to keep private. You do that. But I feel like country fans, they love getting to know their artist. And they're very loyal. So you want to let them in on as much as you can. Right. And I think the funniest part about all this, I say this all the time.

We can be anywhere, this is how I know the Bachelor Nation thing is a real thing. We can be anywhere in this country of Lauren goes out on the row with me, eating breakfast somewhere, lunch, dinner, whatever it may be. And people will constantly come up to her all these years later. I mean, she hasn't been on the TV in a long time. But people are like, oh my gosh, I loved you on the show. Can I have a photo, all that kind of stuff. And it always blows my mind.

I'm like, wow, we're in the middle of nowhere. And they knew who you were. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That is the power of TV. Yeah, the power. of TV and the power of bachelor nation. I'm like since starting this podcast, I'm realizing just how powerful the fan base is. Like it's crazy how it, like what it can do for people's careers, whether you're a contestant on the show or an artist that comes on the show. It's like it's really wild to see how it can just affect people. And I mean, it could be negative too, but usually in a very positive way. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, no doubt about it. Girls come through. So, you know, artists do. meet and greets before the show and all that kind of stuff and girls come through every single night they're like oh my god is lauren here and i'm like no she's not with the boys tonight they're like oh my god

we love her so much we love you but we love her way more that's that's the best compliment that's yeah no i agree that's so sweet we'll have the boys because they're both under two is that right or they'll actually dutton just turn three okay i've been saying two under two for so long or forget but he just turned three a couple weeks ago. But, yeah, they're 15 months apart. Oh, that's perfect. That's going to be so fun for them. Yes, in about four or five years from now,

we'll appreciate we did it so close. But, yeah, two years, it's been a grind to say the least. It's been an awesome grind. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them.

I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hola, it's Honey German, and my podcast, Grasasas Come Again, is back. This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment,

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The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy, cheesy, cheese. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not doing that this season. Oh, well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it.

Get in here! Today, we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like, text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay.

That's us. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart rates, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer.

and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So have they been out? on the road at all with you guys? Or did they always stay back in Nashville?

Yeah, we tried with Dutton when it was just him. And I think sleeping on a tour bus is a whole different thing that may take them a while to get used to. So we're going to wait a couple years before we try to bring them out. Like maybe here or there every once in a while, we will. But for the most part, I have to have a voice. And if I don't sleep because they're not sleeping, going to be hard to sing later that night.

Yeah, that's tough to navigate, but it will be really cool when they're older and... Oh, yeah. I can't wait. Do you think you'll put them in any kind of like music lessons proactively? Are you going to wait and see if they're drawn to it? They're definitely drawn to it. Both of them already love music so much. You know, I play guitar here in the house a lot and they love, love, love the guitar. Wow.

They love dancing to it. Now, when I'm out on the road, Lauren sends me videos all the time. Dunn has this like a last. electronic guitar. He's always has it around his neck and he's always playing it and and singing songs. We never know what he's saying when he's singing, but he's constantly seeing. So I feel like maybe we got a little singer on our hands. That's pretty cool. That would be really awesome. And it's going to be even cooler when they can't come out on the road and see what you do and like have the magnitude of, oh my gosh, this is what my dad's job is. I know. I was doing the

series X-M thing during CMA Fest and we brought the kids out that's the first time they really ever seen me do anything to where it doesn't kind of can understand what's going on a little bit so I get up there to play and all he wants me to play is old

McDonald had a farm so I just broke it out right there on the guitar in front of everybody on the radio and it made for a funny moment that's amazing that's so cool okay I've got a couple more questions before I let you go but one of them is what advice would you give to a younger version of yourself, whether it's relationship, whether

it's career, like you're where you're at now, you're in a really good place with both of those things. What would you say to your younger self? Wow. That's a great question. I think I would say I'm proud of you for being patient and not settling is the first thing that kind of pops in my head, you know, um, I was in a couple relationships before Lauren, nothing like crazy long, um, but, uh, I'm just, I guess thankful that I didn't settle and always knew exactly kind of what I wanted. And I didn't really, uh, know that I would find that until I met her, but, um, you know, I think, and when you're an artist and you're, you're trying to have a career, there's not a whole lot of time to dedicate to somebody else that you got to,

to put it all out there for yourself. So I'm incredibly thankful I was patient in those moments and didn't try to force anything to happen. And, you know, it was weird. In reality, I was always the guy who said, I didn't want to get married, didn't want kids. That was just one of those things I kind of felt in my heart. And it's pretty crazy when you meet somebody that you want to spend the rest of your

life with, they change everything about the way that you thought about all. of those things. And I remember the day that Dutton was born. I was holding him in my arms. And I'm not an emotional person, but I just started crying. And I was like, Lord, thank you for not listening to me for all those times. I said I didn't want any of this stuff because it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Wow. That's really cool. That's amazing. And I'm happy for you. That's just really cool. Yeah, it all worked out. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like that's a good reminder for anyone out there listening, myself included. I'm like, you're exactly where you're meant to be. Yeah. And you've got to have faith

and things are going to turn out exactly how they're meant to be. So that's really cool to hear. Yeah. The worst thing anybody can do honestly is settle. When you have like a gut instinct and gut feeling that it's not everything that you want it to be because I believe that I believe in prayer. I know that it works and when it's meant to happen and it's happening and the Lord's timing, it'll be everything you want and then some. I love that. That's amazing. Okay, so before I let you go, I think it's a funny question, but this show is about

kind of like bachelor adjacent bachelor crossover thing. So I think it was about a month ago. You posted a picture. It was the night that you met Lauren, I believe. And at the time, she was engaged, well, not at that time, but at the time the picture was taken, she was engaged to Ben. And I think it kind of shook up Bachelor Nation because it was like, oh, my gosh, this is a photo. It's the first night y'all met, obviously way before you guys ever dated or anything. But it was the first night you met.

So it is a very special moment, but it's also kind of funny. Like, it's kind of funny. And after I saw some of the negative comments, which, you know, I don't see a lot of those. But, yeah, I guess I made a few people mad. And I didn't mean to. I'm like, did they not read my caption? Right. They just looked at the photo and didn't read the caption.

So before I even posted that, I actually texted Ben. So him and I playing a lot of these same golf tournaments together. And I've kind of gotten to know him a little bit through that. And super nice guy. And the last thing I would ever want to do is do something disrespectful like that. So I asked him if he was cool with me. posting that and that obviously I don't mean anything by it. It's just kind of her and I didn't even start dating until four years after that photo was taken.

Right. And I think people, I guess they thought that I met through that night and then we started dating immediately after that, which was just not even close to the case. It was four years after the photo was taken. I barely even saw her or spoke to her in between that time long, long before. or long after their relationship had ended, you know? Yeah. So he was totally fine with that and understood.

And I just thought it was a fun way to show people like, I met Lauren, I'm playing the I Heart Festival right now. And I met her all these years ago at this actual event when she came off of the show. And I just thought that was going to be a fun moment to share. I didn't realize it was going to shake things up. And I guess I should have posted Ben's okay with me, posting this photo. I think it's,

I personally think it's funny. Like even when I kind of learned about the situation, I was like, actually I think that's even better. Like, I just think it's so funny how life works. And life has worked out so beautifully for both of you. 100%.

It would be different if you did meet her that night and swept her off her feet and then took her away. Like that would be and Ben was still single. Like that would all be a different story. But you both are happening. I have the, uh, I have the, uh, emotional intelligence, I would never do something like that to something.

Yeah, no, totally. Yeah, yeah, I know that he's incredibly happy with how things ended up for him as I know Lauren is. But yeah, it was pretty funny that you brought that up because, yeah, some of the comments were like, wow, I can't believe you'd do this. And I'm like, did you read the caption? Right. No, people love to jump to conclusions.

And I think that is going back to the question about how do you kind of balance it? balance, like what you share, what you don't share, it's sometimes you have to, it's a fine line because what to me is like a funny, like interesting behind, kind of a behind the scenes thing of like how you guys originally met, you know, even though there was no romantic connection there, but it's really an interesting thing. And a part of me, if I were you, I'd be like, all right, I'm not sharing with you guys next time. I'm not going to give you that personal like behind the scenes look in my life because if you're going to take this and run with a whatever narrative or believe nasty comments like that's not something we need in our lives but um but i think it's good

because i think it's nice to set the record straight and um and i'm sure most people actually found it kind of how we did where it's like this is kind of a funny like interesting beautiful moment um and you know coming off the show it's like it's i don't know i mean i know that they were engage, but I'm like, you're just such a whirlwind of an experience that like... 100%. It's a, I feel like an engagement on the show is kind of different than an engagement in real life and in general. So it's just an interesting dynamic, but I'm glad I got to ask you your thoughts on it.

And, oh, I saw Ben commented on it. And I think he commented your lyrics back, which was really kind of cool. Which was a hilarious response in the best way. And I think that just goes to show what kind of guy is super. nice guy. And again, I should have probably just wrote on the daggone post before anybody gets upset at this, read the caption. And Ben said he was absolutely fine with me posting this photo. Right. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. It was a pleasure getting to know you here about your family, your life and career a little bit. And I just think

you're the perfect guest for the show. So thank you so much for coming on and chatting with us. Heck yeah. Thank you very much for having me. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Take care. And tell Lauren that everyone at Bachelor Nation loves her and misses her. I will. I sure will. Thank you very much. Of course. Take care. All right. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. Bye bye. All right. See you. Thank you so much again to Chris Lane for joining us today on Beyond the Bachelor. It was such a pleasure interviewing him. And as a fan myself, I have to plug his new EP from where I'm sipping. He has some amazing songs out there. And he's also going to be doing a little bit of touring this summer. So check it out online to see if he's coming to a city near you.

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