The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Breaking News: Divorce is Trending

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Amy & TJ are breaking down all the latest celebrity divorce headlines and messy details. They're giving their thoughts on reinventing yourself after divorce, how long should you date before y...ou get engaged if you're a widow, and if you should or shouldn't sell your house after the marriage falls apart.Plus, Pitch-Perfect celeb has a LOT to say about their past marriages and why they are dating completely differently this time around! Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication. Plus, it's carrot top, baby. And finally, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Then everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA. terminal, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic.
Starting point is 00:01:57 He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak, Djokovic. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. Hey there, folks, welcome to I do Part 2. If you got Love, right the first time around, this ain't the show for you. I'm T.J. Holmes alongside my friend, my partner, my podcast co-host, Amy Roboc, that was all so impersonal. It felt very clinical. It did. With my person, my partner, my spouse, my, what's the right way to put in?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Love of my life. Love of my life. There it is. That you had to feed me that line is a little disturbing. You know what? I think you probably avoided saying it because it's overused all the time on all the reality shows we watch and you roll your eyes when people call each other the love of their lives. Then we look up and two months later they're broken up.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So I think you probably tried not to use that. Yeah. And so we haven't had a chance to hop on to Ido Part 2 in a little bit. And there's always relationship news. So we're going to discuss some relationship news, some very high profile relationship news, and we're going to get into a couple of questions. One of them having to be, what do you do post-divorce? Is it important for you to rebrand yourself?
Starting point is 00:04:06 We're also going to get into this question. Is it good to throw a divorce party, a divorce celebration, or is that in bad taste? There's a lot of celebrities who are going through this right now. The first, Doreet Kimsley, let's start with her. A lot of people know, and I would say love, but she has some issues right now with irreconcilable differences. Of course, she's from the Beverly Hills Housewife. divorcing her husband, P.K. is his name after P.K. Kimsley after 10 years of marriage.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Now, Robs, we hear about a divorce. We hear about a breakup. But so much of the conversation around this one has to do with the fact that they actually made it to 10 years of marriage. And the reason why that's significant, it varies from state to state. But anyone who's been divorced knows sometimes folks will be strategic and plan their divorces for when they might have the most to gain and maybe the least to lose. You could look at it two different ways and who knows that this is the case, but a lot of people are wondering if Durit waited for those 10 years because in the state of California, that means you've been in a, what is it called a long-term marriage? New Jersey, I know, has that here. Again, different from state to state, but once you get branded
Starting point is 00:05:17 as a long-term marriage, you are entitled to 50%. And so who knows what the state of their finances actually is and whether or not that's even true. A lot of people are saying, hmm, I wonder if she was waiting specifically so that she could get 50%. I'm sure. It just happened to work out that way. Seriously. She might even be like, hell yeah, I did. You know, who knows? Oh, good point. I've heard women say, yeah, I stuck with it because I knew that I was, I had done enough where I felt like this was the way that made the most sense for me. So who knows what it is. But another thing people are talking about is that P.K. I think he got. photographed one day before the divorce filing, kissing and holding hands with a former amazing race contestant. So if you're a big reality show person, you might know who is it Shana Wall is. So he was out kissing, holding our hands. It wasn't like he was hiding it.
Starting point is 00:06:12 What we're saying is we're not holding out hope for reconciliation. I don't think that's going to happen. They do have two kids. Jagger's 11. Phoenix is nine. And so P.K. has filed for joint custody. We'll see. We hope the best for them. Divor. is hard and it's really hard in the public eye so we wish them both the best see when we say we wish them the best oftentimes that doesn't necessarily mean that the relationship continues someone times what's best and we've learned that what's best is for them to go their separate ways now another divorce that's taking place now is from a guy look i love steve gudenberg back in the day oh yeah three men and a baby three men a bit but before that police academy yeah wasn't he in the one
Starting point is 00:06:48 with the um what was the name of the short circuit is short circuit you remember that movie yes And it's funny, I have actually seen Steve Guttenberg running in Central Park before. Okay. Was he running alone? He was, actually. I've only seen him one time running in New York. But I was like, oh, my God, that was Steve Guttenborough. You're probably going to see him running alone again if you see him because he is announced now.
Starting point is 00:07:08 He is also filed from divorce of his wife of six years. Now, six years is a shorter time. This is his second marriage. Been there, done that. Call us Steve, if you want to talk. But his wife, Emily Smith, there is a significant age gap between these two. Did we look, Steve 66? Six. And we believe Emily Smith is 35.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah. So somewhere around 30 years. You know. Age different. Does that play into it? I mean, it absolutely could have. They're saying irreconcilable differences again. And he's already, he's already agreed to pay spousal support to Smith. So they did have a pre-nup, which I think will help expedite this and hopefully make it a little bit less messy. It's certainly in the public eye. It's never fun to have people wanting to know all the details. So if you had a pre-nup, hopefully that will make things a much smoother process for both of them.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And again, we don't, we hate to speculate about somebody a specific relationship, have no idea what happened and why with these two. But anytime, we've talked about this certainly recently, with several couples of relationships where there's a big age difference, it does come into play. You can love somebody all day long, but you have different interests, you have different bedtimes even. You have different things you want to. Different activity levels. It's true. All of that. And that can come into play in a relationship.
Starting point is 00:08:21 So hopefully both of those get through that. And like we said, Rose, we've been there. We have done that. And we know you can come out better on the other side. Yes. So those were, yes, 100 percent. Those were some recent splitting up headlines. But there are some moving on headlines from people who have just recently announced their divorces. Among them, Jessica Simpson. She, it was right at the beginning of the year, correct, that she announced that she and her, well, now ex-husband, Eric Johnson, were splitting. And they had been together for a very long time. but I love this part of the story. So if anyone remembers, Jessica Simpson's kind of been known as, despite the fact that she is a ridiculously successful businesswoman. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Is she even a billionaire? I think she's a billionaire. So I actually stopped myself, but I was like, I'm pretty sure she's in that billionaire league where she's got the clothing line and everything. She's really expanded her empire from beyond music, even though she is making new music. But she was kind of known as, unfortunately, for her, a dumb blonde, all because of that reality show she did with Nick Lechay. Remember when she asked
Starting point is 00:09:26 if tuna was chicken of the sea, she was like, is it chicken? And just because of that one perhaps maybe even silly comment she made, I don't think she's been able to shake, or maybe she at least feels like she hasn't been able to shake that dumb, blonde, you know, the thing that people assign to someone, especially if you just make one mistake. So anyway, I love this. She is now saying that she wants to go back to school. It's something she's had a dream. of her entire life since her 20s and now she wants to go back to school and expand her education. I think that's great. I would hate for her motivation to be to prove something to anybody other than herself. If she wants to do that, that's fine. I know it can look good. And I know there's
Starting point is 00:10:06 a PR element to everything when it comes to folks who are in the public eye. But I hope she does this for her. Who gives a damn? When anybody thinks about you, if this is what she wants to do, I hope she does it. And I think it is a cool thing. I think, you know, especially if so much of your life has been wrapped up in another person, or at least in that relationship, when you are now on your own to start really investing in yourself, whether it's to go back to school. She's actually getting on the stage for the first time in 15 years with this new music she has. So she's now investing in herself, and I think that's actually a part of the healing process. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. terrorism law and order criminal justice system is back in season two we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop listen to the new season
Starting point is 00:11:35 of law and order criminal justice system on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're
Starting point is 00:12:15 the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel, writer strong, and Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas,
Starting point is 00:12:46 the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me, Y. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage, and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all, L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time Novak Djokovic.
Starting point is 00:13:45 The world's number one male tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. I always heard himself. What has Novak Djokovic done? What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone.
Starting point is 00:14:03 What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a day. daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt
Starting point is 00:14:40 stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman and on she pivots, I into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten, Monica Patton, Elaine Welteroff. I'm Jessica Voss. And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration
Starting point is 00:15:11 and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivotts, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This next headline I didn't even want to do because it has to do with J-Lo and Ben, and unless the headline is they're getting back together, I don't really give a damn. I know. We know how you feel and where you stand on this. Still rooting for these two. You still hope. You know, even as we're hearing them start to talk about their marriage, you know, you know, you.
Starting point is 00:15:43 you're waiting for them to say, you know, because you see his kids hanging out with her kids and members of their family hanging out together. And you could see a real relationship and an authentic bond that formed. And even between them, it seems like they're good. So you kind of want to know that, oh, they could get back together. But that's not the headline. They can clearly get along, as we see. These two have been each other's lives publicly for decades now. But, yes, she was just quoted recently talking about how she told her kids, look, these families have been intertwined for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And she said, she told her kids. She just promised them that mama was going to be okay. She said, I promise that I'll come out the other side stronger and better. I promised them that and I did it. This is her saying that she has, like, come out and emerge. Look, that was a mess. Any divorce privately sucks. A divorce publicly really, really sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:34 A divorce publicly from somebody that you got two new movies and your whole new album attached to. And it was a fairy tale kind of love story because they had been engaged 20 years prior and then it just wasn't the right time. So now for all of us who believe in love and are rooting for love, you think, oh, wow, it just wasn't the right time. But now it is. Now they can be together. Still, not hope. And still, no. The moment's just not right. But she does say she has a great sense of peace in her life and isn't that what we all are hoping for?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Well, does some peace come for some people after a split or a divorce? do you feel better to get rid of stuff that you had together anytime if you get divorced and you all lived in this house together would you be okay with one person gets the house would you be okay getting the house or do you want you don't want anything to do with anything that you all had together to each his own but i like to start anew because for me things have memories things have feelings i think what you surround yourself actually truly impacts how you feel it affects energy and it does for me so you know you make those decisions on a case by case basis unfortunately you and i have had some experience in this department what do you think you know me fairly well and i can separate i can dissociate pretty easily and quickly and something is dead to me and it's over to that point i don't want to see something that has a memory attached to it could be a pleasant one or an unpleasant one you just don't i don't want to see that stuff yeah none of it i don't want to drink the same drink i don't want to no seriously i don't want to wear the same clothes i actually feel that way okay i'm with you there
Starting point is 00:18:08 100%. And I mentioned that because Jessica Alba, they are selling their L.A. home for $19 million. It's on the market. So it's available if you'd like to go out and put your bid in. But it's in L.A. But this is the home she shared with Cash Warren, who she also, I think it was the beginning of the year, announced they would be getting a divorce as well. But this is a home that she called their dream home at some point. And now that dream is gone. And I bet she doesn't. No, no, I'm not going to put words in her mouth. But yes. But what I think where you're going with this is, I mean, look, she was married. They were married for 60. years and she and they both, both Jessica and Cash referred to this home as our dream home
Starting point is 00:18:44 where they wanted to watch their kids grow up. I get that. So when that dream is gone, when that dream doesn't exist anymore, it's almost like a rub to be in this place that you thought was going to be one thing and now it's another. And I just think that that's a heavy, it's almost
Starting point is 00:19:00 like an albatross swaying you down and keeping you in the past. It kind of keeps one foot in your past. Now I do know a lot of folks want to keep their homes because, A, they don't have a choice, like that's where they have to live they can't afford to move but be because they want their kids to have some stability and normalcy and just a space that they're familiar with I know that that weighs into a lot of folks decisions about whether or not to keep a home or not but they are moving on and I the dream is gone so the house should go to for me that absolutely is a non-starter did you know that Hugh Heffner had a widow you know what I would have put an S on that or like I just knew that he had a lot of women and and probably some are still alive and some might have died like i don't know he was married to one that's it he he only had one wife he's not a polygamous i mean yes he was only okay you're talking about oh i'm thinking of the playboy house and i'm thinking of all the women around he wasn't married to all
Starting point is 00:19:52 them at the same time of course not but um but he i did not know this but he died in 2017 and his wife crystal hefner is now engaged after a year of dating good for her crystal is what now 39? Yes, 39 years old. That's a big age cap. He was 90. Because he died at 91 in 2017. Hey, when you know, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But what I am saying here is that does it matter? Does it matter? What are the rules of a widow? He's been dead for several years. She only dated somebody for a year and then got re-engate. I don't see an issue here. The question that people are asking is, do you think an engagement after one year of dating is too soon if you're a widow? I don't think that should matter at all.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I think you can still honor, especially if you, you know, the person who passed was somebody who was the love of your life or someone you had a beautiful relationship with, I think you can still honor them. I don't think anyone who truly loves another person would want the person they're leaving behind to be alone and sad. So I don't think there are rules behind that. I think it's personal. I think it's individual. Alone and sad. I want you to be alone and missing me every day the rest of your life. I don't want you happy going out to movie, horror movies with some duty and popcorn.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I can never do that, though. I couldn't watch horror movies again. Really? Oh, so y'all go see a rom-com together? Yes. Okay, I don't know how we got there or went there, but no, I want none of that. There's no issue there. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And engagement, people get engaged within months. How long before you got engaged? First one was a long one. First one was, I mean, I was so young, but it was a year. It was a year engagement. No, no, no, no. Before, oh, they dated a year, then got engaged. So you dated for how long before you got engaged.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I dated a year and then got engaged for a year. So I got married after two years. Second time, this is a little embarrassing. You know, you talked about this before. It's fine. I got engaged after, let me see, wait, hold on. Four months. You what now?
Starting point is 00:21:52 I got engaged after four months. And I got married after 10 months of meeting him. Wow. Well, you really thought I was dragging my feet then. Jesus. What are your timelines? Longer. Much.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Two years, I think, and You know what? Probably year on the first one. Okay, yeah. It was a year on the first one for me and even shorter the second time. The first one and the second one. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Okay. What's the third one going to be? Oh, I can't. Tick, Tick, Tick, Tuck. Oh, my God. I'm kidding. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.
Starting point is 00:22:48 There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. terrorism law and order criminal justice system is back in season two we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop listen to the new season of law and order criminal justice system on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm
Starting point is 00:23:36 I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Starting point is 00:24:12 So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:32 We are back in Las Vegas, the city of Sin. and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all, L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time Novak Djokovic. The world's number one, mild tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done?
Starting point is 00:25:47 What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest. battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this
Starting point is 00:26:11 year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job, a place, or even a relationship. I'm Emily Tish Sussman, and on she pivots, I dive into the inspiring pivots of women who have taken big leaps in their lives and careers. I'm Gretchen Whitmer, Jody Sweeten, Monica Patton, Elaine Welteroff. I'm Jessica Voss.
Starting point is 00:26:42 And that's when I was like, I got to go. I don't know how, but that kicked off the pivot of how to make the transition. Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them. Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspiration and maybe the push to make your next pivot. Listen to these women and more on She Pivots, now on the I Heart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, next up here, we've known some people personally who have done this, but they have
Starting point is 00:27:18 a divorce, is it called a divorce party or a divorce? Oh, I've, I've, a divorce party. Okay. Yes. But these things, they feel in poor taste to me. We're talking about HGTV star Christina Hack, celebrated her divorce being finalized with a party of sorts. You go out with your friends.
Starting point is 00:27:36 It's one thing, like, look, this, Christina Hagen just did this kind of a smaller thing, a couple of friends out, toasting glasses, she posted it. Do you put it on Instagram, though? Okay, so it looks like a celebration of your marriage ending, which is fine by me if you want to do that. But some will say it's in poor taste. So, look, again, I'm going to stand here saying I'm not going to judge what anyone else chooses to do. However, if it were for me, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think when people come up and say, oh, I'm so sorry you're getting divorced.
Starting point is 00:28:05 A lot of times I would say, no, actually, it's a relief. So you could congratulate me instead of feel sorry for me. But it is one of those moments where I think, for me, I wouldn't want to post, like, I could see myself going out and clinking a glass, but posting it is kind of rubbing it in the faces not only of the ex, but the ex's family. And if you have children with that person, I don't know what message that sends as well. I think that that's the consideration I would have. Just the ex, the ex's family members, former friends who might have gotten. caught in the crosshairs and then children if they're involved. I think sometimes it can come off as, yeah, in poor taste, I guess is the best way to put it.
Starting point is 00:28:42 That's what it is. But to each his own, I mean, you know what? I'm not turned off by it. I don't know what someone went through. You know, what did she go through to get to a place where she finally was able to get divorced or say I want a divorce? So maybe she needs to let off some steam and to celebrate. You know, we use this quote in our morning run, I think, recently.
Starting point is 00:28:58 If you can't be happy with what you have, at least be happy with what you escaped. Yes. Exactly. And that could exactly be, I think it is for a lot of people, sometimes breakups, divorces are exactly that. All right. The final thing here is this quote. The pressure to be married to men is a conspiracy. Now, that quote comes from an actress. Now, when you hear that initially without context, or do you get curious or do you react? How do you take that? I get curious. I would like to ask a few follow-ups. That's fair. But we're talking about Anna Camp, who is of you love. Pitch Perfect. You love. And she's on this new season of you, which I've yet to stream, but I've watched all the other season.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So I'm actually excited. I didn't realize she was on this new season of you. But she's been married twice before. Okay, so it's not just us. I always feel like nobody else. And now everybody's got two marriages. It's a thing now. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:52 So she had two marriages, two men that both ended in divorce. And now she has posted on Instagram, I guess, making it official just recently, that she is with a woman. Okay, fine, but did it shock people, surprise people, but she used that line that the pressure to be married to men is a conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I don't understand that. It sounds like she's saying women don't have the freedom to explore to be themselves. They don't have the freedom to go back and forth. They don't, like there's pressure to possibly always identify as this or label yourself or put yourself
Starting point is 00:30:32 in this group or that group. I took it as that. Now, who is part of the conspiracy? I don't know, but I took it as that. Well, I do think, you know, maybe even 10 years ago, 15, 20 years ago, that might be more of something that I could get behind. But I do think now, especially having young girls now who are 19 and 22, I mean, I just think it's so accepted to explore. And, I mean, maybe it's where you live in the country. Maybe it's your family.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But I do think now more than ever before, I think people are celebrating and even leaning into the options that they feel like they have, that there aren't societal norms to the extent that you can't be with who you want to be with and you can't love who you want to love. You might get judgment still, but I don't know about a larger conspiracy. I don't know. I've never been in that situation, so I don't know. Been in which one? Where I felt like I was being pressured to be with men. I just... Well, you didn't have to be pressured.
Starting point is 00:31:26 I just like men, so I just kept it easy, I guess. You know, I mean, I don't know. Do you feel like there's a conspiracy against you or that you have to always be with women. I didn't know how you're going to finish that, but yes, there's a conspiracy. But no, look, I love this, and we've been talking so much about relationships and we're going to be talking about relationships
Starting point is 00:31:46 and more coming in the next weeks and months. Yes. If folks haven't heard, we'll get into that later. But it's like everybody's going through it. Everybody's going through something. And these are folks go through the names here, the Doreet Kemsley, Steve Gutenberg, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, all of those folks at some point, I think in the past 12 to 18 months, we have seen some
Starting point is 00:32:14 beautiful picture of how wonderful their relationship was. Look, folks, if that tells you anything, you think you're the only one going through it, you're not. And I know your neighbor, they look so perfect over there. They're not. Everybody's going through something. So I have loved doing I do part two because it is. is a part of a community and everybody can be a part of a community. So just people always keep
Starting point is 00:32:36 that in mind. Yeah. I think that's so important. And when you see celebrities and I think there's one of those magazines that has a page that says, they're just like us. But truly they are. I mean, you know, everyone struggles with a relationship. Well, they'll show them like being in line at Walmart, you know, buying, you know, dog food. But, you know, I think sometimes people think that if you've got money or you have fame or you have some sort of success in your life that somehow you you're immune or insulated from relationship drama. And it's just certainly not the case. They're just like us.
Starting point is 00:33:06 They're just like us. I need this. And they should be in the corner curled up crying because that would be just like me. That's more so how I am usually. Folks, look, we always, always, always appreciate you all being a part of the conversation, engaging with us because we absolutely love doing this thing. A lot of news out there, folks are splitting up, finding love, they're healing, they're throwing divorce parties, they're going back to college.
Starting point is 00:33:25 But whatever you're going through at the time, maybe it is a divorce at this time. Maybe you're feeling a little lost, folks. You are not alone. We have folks here. We have some experience, hard earned, hard one. We weren't trying to earn it. No. But we have it now. But anytime we can lend our experience to some of your questions as well, we appreciate doing so. Yeah. So if you're going through a divorce, if you're feeling lost, if you need some help from us or from our team of amazing mentors, you know where to find us. You can email us. You can call us. We are here to help. And all the info is in the show notes. So you can follow us on our social medias. And please make sure to rate and review this podcast. We love hearing back for you and hearing your feedback. I do part two is an IHeart radio podcast where you know the drill now. Falling in Love is the main objective. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
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