The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - BREAKING NEWS: Grant Has Entered the Chat

Episode Date: June 25, 2025

Grant Ellis has reacted to our breakdown of his “I’m not heartbroken” statement, but quickly deleted his comment! We have receipts!    Plus, Ben brings his unique perspecti...ve to the situation and offers Grant some advice from Bachelor to Bachelor!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 Lots of stuff out there. on the internet right now. I'm talking about Bachelor Grant Ellis. Yes, our most recent Bachelor. Obviously, there's been a breakup from his season already. Not a very long-lived relationship, but a relationship, nonetheless. He's been out quite often now talking about moving on since his engagement ending. Now, I do have a perspective on this.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I have been in a very similar situation on the show, a bachelor, have a breakup, try to get out into the world, however you can. But let me give you a little background here, just in case you were unfamiliar. Grant got on Instagram, he did a live, answering questions just from listeners as they came in. We reacted to this live.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Obviously, we jumped on, we talked about it. It is a big deal. It is a big headline. anytime there is a relationship or a relationship ending. It does make headwaves. And the thing that stood out to me was he said he wasn't heartbroken. Now, that feels odd to me. So, I mean, I don't know their situation.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Obviously, we didn't see even a lot on the season. There wasn't a lot of buy-in from the audience. And if you want to come at me on that, well, look at the ratings from the season. And look at the response from the season, looking at the kind of the news from that season. There just wasn't a lot of connection with the contestants or with Grant coming off of that season, which some would claim is probably why the Bachelor is still kind of in hiatus at this point. And they've moved on to announcing the Golden Bachelor instead.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But so I guess my point is it's hard to really understand what's going on in this relationship behind the scenes. but what I do know is when a relationship ends from the show, there is heartbreak. There's heartbreak for a lot of reasons, especially when you go on to a show hoping you can find love, hoping that maybe this environment, no matter how weird it is, could bring you your forever partner.
Starting point is 00:05:09 If you go into it with the mindset of, hey, this could be the avenue in which I find my forever love, when it doesn't work out, there is heartbreak. There is pain. And then you have the, obviously, the dynamic of the public pouring in their opinions, pouring in their comments, and there's more pain. Because typically, when there is a breakup, sides are chosen. You pick one side, you pick the other. Nobody really sits in the middle.
Starting point is 00:05:46 It's just not the way reality television works. And so there's pain because you're getting hit from both. sides. Well, so I think for Grant, I think right now from watching the live, and then obviously kind of listening to Ashley and Trista's reaction to it, I think Grant is in a season of protection. I think he is trying to protect himself. I don't think the reality has hit him yet of this is the ending to his kind of one thing that came from the show. If we're honest, this was his big moment. This relationship was going to be the thing that may be sustained from the show, but with this ending, a lot of doors will be closed. It's the way breakups work
Starting point is 00:06:35 from the show as well. They love you as a couple. When that ends, you're just one of many who haven't worked out from the show. And that's fine, but you have to get to that reality as quickly as possible. So he's kind of in this season of protection. He, I think they're both doing the best they can it's not you can kind of read through the lines on juliana's and his post that there was trouble in paradise they're both kind of claiming that it was all fine and they just didn't work out and that's hard to believe when both are kind of moving on quickly and sharing um these messages subliminal messages that seem to point that there was a little bit more trouble than what they're leading on um and maybe we'll get to the bottom of that over time i don't love when couples
Starting point is 00:07:19 break up from the show, and they immediately come out kind of bashing the other person. Breakups happen. They do. Not everybody gets along. That's the truth of the matter. That's relatable for all of us. And so I don't love when they bash right away.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But I do love when we do get to the bottom of the story over time because we've invested so much in their relationship. My boyfriend's professor is way too frustrated. and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
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Starting point is 00:12:55 a video of Ashley and Trista talking about his Instagram live. Well, Grant commented on the post. He saw it and commented. Now, this post that he made has now been deleted. I don't think it's an unfair post for him to make. But he deleted it.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Anyways, this is what it says. I'll read it to. Grant Ellis posts on the Almost Famous podcast, Instagram. He says, everyone is criticizing, and I get that. I did everything I could to try to make the relationship work. So did Juliana. He says, I am able to distance my feelings when something isn't for me. A lesson learned over a heartbreak any day.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Again, I don't think this is an unfair comment for him. it does to me. Now, this is my personal opinion. I want to be clear on that. It comes off a little cold. If just a few months ago, we were watching, not even a few months ago, we were watching them come out publicly. They were asking for the public support of their relationship. They were talking about their futures together.
Starting point is 00:14:12 They were talking about moving in together. they were claiming that the reason we haven't seen them together is because of the distance, but that was going to be a solution here soon. Ashley, my co-host, had, just like she does oftentimes, she had made the assumption that things weren't good between the two of them. She'd said that publicly to many people's criticism, even though she was right. So if you're one of those people, you've got to go and apologize to her. This comes off a little cold, but I don't think it's an unfair comment for him to make.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Again, I think he's in a season of protection. He is trying to move on past this to try to figure out what life looks like beyond the relationship and beyond the bachelor. He is trying to get back out into the world and date why his fire is still burning from the show. And goodness gracious, we've had this conversation on the Almost Famous Popperius. podcast. How quickly is too quickly to move on from a breakup? I don't know if there's any amount of time that it's too quick. Once you call it quits, goodness, you can get out there and date around. So I don't blame him for trying to get out there and date. But I think where the public is getting upset and probably why he deleted his post, because the comments on it weren't
Starting point is 00:15:36 super positive, is because we are still invested in his relationship with Julianna. If there was one thing to come from that season where we were frustrated because of the disconnection with the show in itself, we still could have a connection to, hey, this couple could work. This couple could make something happen. And we would be really excited about that. So once that ended, we're like, what was all this for? What was the point? We had a season that we didn't connect with any of the contestants, really. We had a season that felt like the Bachelor didn't want to be there half the time. it was many months of our life in a really critical season for the show because it was coming off of Joey's season, which was such a success in so many ways, that it frustrated us because
Starting point is 00:16:23 there was so much missing. And now what we miss from it is any love story at all. Anyways, as I mentioned, he did delete the post. So he obviously was feeling that the comments were not going in a direction he appreciated. I kind of have the standard of once I put something out in the public, it stays out in the public. I want people to hear my thoughts even if they would disagree, but he does have the right to delete it, and he did. So it leads us now to this moment where the shows producers have asked me to share any advice I have for grant. I don't have a lot of advice. I don't love to give advice into situations I'm so oblivious on. I guess my words of wisdom would be, this two shall pass, but also, my words of wisdom would be,
Starting point is 00:17:15 you were the bachelor, which comes with a weight of people investing into your relationship and into your life. You agreed to that. It's a very, if nothing else, you agreed for people to have a microscopic view for a period of time into your dating and into your relationships. and if you wanted to do this show for the right reasons, you wanted people to invest into you so that they could root for you, they could invest into your future, into your love. And so kind of sweeping this under, moving on so quickly, in a lot of ways, feels like a disregard for a fan base who is rooting for you.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And so maybe take a step back and realize that it, doesn't sit well with an audience that watch you to fall in love for you to just brush it under so quickly and move on so quickly. It's great that you're able to disassociate your feelings when things don't work out. It doesn't mean that the people who have supported you and rooted for you can do the same. You owe them nothing. I think that would be a lot of people's comments are you owe them nothing but you did agree to be the bachelor which means that you did agree to open your life up to a world of all of these things for a long period of time and what I want for Grant personally is for him to take away from this experience the doors that have been
Starting point is 00:18:52 open for him and pursue those things that enhance as the advice that was given to me, enhance the life he already had before, but also to appreciate and respect that this franchise invested a lot into him and to their relationship and understand that fans might not just be okay with this nonchalant, I'm all good,
Starting point is 00:19:19 back out in the market kind of mentality so quickly after telling all of us that you're moving in with Juliana. It's hard to move on that quickly. for us. So, but I, you know, I hope for both of them that they can take a step into whatever love looks like now. But also to realize that, yeah, to realize it won't be easy because people still remember you from being engaged on a show. We hope to hear from Grant.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I'd love to talk to him. If we don't get to talk to him, I'm sure you can find him on Instagram live. Well, that's the breaking news. Grant Ellis has commented on the Almost Famous Instagram. That comment has since been deleted if you go out looking for it. It sounds like Grant is trying to protect. And that makes sense.
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