The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Brian Austin Green Has Dating Advice For Amanda Kloots AND You!

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Amanda Kloots is really dating for the first time in her life, and she’s finding it hard to navigate.  Brian is giving advice on how to approach dating in chapter two, how to navigate dating as a single parent, and why it’s important for parents to embrace and not race through childhood experiences with their kids.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everybody. Welcome back to I do Part 2. This is part two of my sit down and interview with Amanda Kluz, who has been incredible and incredibly insightful and I hope helpful for all of you. So let's jump back into it. What was it like for Sharna coming into that not like being, not having kids? And being like now the, not stepmom right away, but like, what was your intro with that with her? And how did she handle that? It was really interesting with Sharna. She, um, she had one of those vision boards. You know what those are?

Oh, I have so many. I have like five in my house. Do you? Okay. So there you go. So she had a vision board. And she literally, so she, when I met her, she owned a home up Beachwood. Okay.

She had two dogs. Okay. This tiny little two bedroom house. Yeah. Great view. Yeah. And it was her and her dogs. And she would, every day, she'd go work out and she'd jog in the hills.

Like she had this very simple routine. But her vision board told a very different story. Oh, interesting. Her vision board, she had silhouettes of like a family of like a mother and father and a bunch of kids all holding hands and looking at things. Like she had all of these things that she really wanted. But she started getting to that age. her life where she was like, how am I going to have a big family? Yeah.

I'm coming up on 40 years old. Like this is out of reach for me. So when we ended up starting to date, it was this very cool experience for her because the puzzle pieces started fitting. And she was like, oh, my God, this is the big family that was on my vision board. And then I early on we talked about that she really wanted to have a child of her own at some point. And I said to her, I was like, I'm not ready yet. But I don't want you to think that you're wasting your time dating me.

Like I understand the value of that. And that is never, that is not something that I would deny you having in this relationship. It's not, again, it's not something I want right now. Yeah, yeah. But I, you know, because she was in that place. Because your 10 year old was four at the time? Four, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. And you still had a baby. I still had a baby. Yeah. And she, you know, she was just in this place of like, she was like this. I really like spending time with you and being around you, but I don't want to commit any more of myself to this.

If this, if you don't want this experience again. Yeah. And I said, no, I don't want you. to think that way, I would absolutely do that because I think if I'm in a relationship and I care about the person that I'm with, which I obviously cared about her pretty early on, I was like, there's nothing cooler than this experience than being a parent. Having your own child and like holding a baby and it being a part of you and there's something to that. I have friends that are like that have stepkids and they're like, oh, this parenting thing

is really hard and I'm like, dude, stop. You have no idea. You don't. And then they'll have kids and all of a sudden they're like, oh, you were absolutely right. I had no idea. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you can't, until you have a child, you can't explain to somebody what that experience is like.

Yeah. It opens up a part of you that you didn't know existed and you see the world in a completely different way. Yeah. It's so beautiful. Did your four-year-old have any or any of your children have any, like weirdness about you dating again. No.

Surprisingly. I... Elvis is like... Really? Oh, he's like the policeman at the front door. Is he really? Oh, yeah. Really?

Yeah. So you got no problems there. They were like, yay! How? Yeah, they were, they were yay. But so I was really fortunate, though. I think in that my ex was already dating somebody. Oh, okay. So it was kind of like, you can't just be the poor person that's like alone, you know,

through it all. They're like, come on, dad. Get, get going. And then Sharna was great. Sharna, like, we were very, we were very protective in the way that we did it. We were really fortunate that she had two small dogs. Oh, yeah. Because there's nothing that kids want more than to have little dogs around them. So I remember at one point when they were like, hey, so can the dog sleep over at our house? And I was like, well you know if they do sharna does but it was a great inn it was perfect and she was fantastic yeah of course like she would get down on the floor and play with them and color with them and she always had things so when they would come and visit at her place there was stuff to do like she was just very kid friendly and she was she's an incredibly friendly person anyway you know did she grew up

with family so she has and like she has and like older brother from her dad's previous relationship. She's an only child with her mom. Okay. Okay. Which is the same as me. I have an older brother and an older sister, but they're from my mom's previous marriage. Okay. So I'm an only child with my dad. You're an only child with your dad. When did your parents get divorced? How old were you? My parents are still together. Oh, they're still together. Oh, they're still together. Oh, your parents are still together, but your mom was married before. Got it. Okay. And how long have your parents been together then? now. Fifty three years.

Do you feel like, because I, in hearing you talk, and like I've always thought this about you, but like you are a very like evolved, good, like you have a lot of good, uh, moral, like, beliefs and like compass. I, do you think that's because of your mom and dad? I, it will, for sure it is. But I mean, I think I also just innately have, that's been a part of me. Like, you know having Elvis. Elvis is who he is. Like, you can motivate him of like, oh, I really love dancing. Hey, you want to try a dance?

Like, you try and find these things that you might have in common, these passions. Yeah. But he's going to have his own. With the five kids, they could not be more different. And I raise them pretty much the same. I mean, I've had the same moral compass through all of it. They are completely different individuals. So now I've really realized that my job as a parent is to raise them morally.

Yeah. Make sure that they're good people. I don't care what you do. Yeah. Just be a good person when you're doing it. If you're a painter, just be a good painter. Just be a kind person while you're painting a picture for somebody. Isn't that funny?

My big thing with Elvis right now is just be a kind person, a nice guy. I always say like, just be a nice guy. Nobody likes a mean guy. Be a nice guy. Do you, because you have such a strong moral compass, do you feel like that has been something that has gotten in the way a little bit in dating since Nick? Do you feel like there is a bit of a responsibility

or a thing in your head of like, oh my God, he's watching right now and Elvis is here. And like I, you know, am I doing the wrong thing in this? Like, do you feel like, like you're a little more critical of yourself because of that. Okay, so in a weird way, and I know this is going to sound a little crazy, but I feel like Nick and I are closer now than we ever were when he was on Earth. I feel like our spiritual connection is insane. And I feel like he is around us and helping us all the time. And it's like,

really kind of beautiful. And I can reach out to him and ask for his help and advice and it happens. That's amazing. It's very cool and crazy. And that's not, that's not crazy. Like that's not crazy. I don't, yeah. I say crazy, but I don't think it's crazy. But I'm sure other people are like, how is that possible? But it has been possible for us. And I, I would say the only moral compass in dating with me has been like in this city. It's like you start dating somebody and then you realize that guy is also dating for other women at the same time. And so then you're like, that's been my moral compass of like, wait, when you find that out and you're like, what? Like how, like can you not just like put effort into just me? Like really like, you know, and that took me a minute to like,

you know, it's like short circuits because it's just not how I. I think. You've never dated before, though. You said yourself. So what you're describing is a normal part of dating. Like dating, unfortunately, there are the pitfalls in it. There are the stumbles. There are the things that you learn from.

It's a process. And you were lucky enough to just skip that process. I mean, but I don't know if I was, to be honest. Like, although in a weird way, I do love that at, you know, 40 went, well, not then, because I didn't know who I was. I know who I am now. I know what I need now. And I'm very proud of that. And that's been the journey that I've taken with therapy and dating and learning.

But like, I didn't, I didn't know what I needed. And I can't imagine that at 20 or 30, I knew what I needed either. You know what I mean? Of course not. And also what I need now is completely different, being. a mother and doing, you know, saying all the things that I told you in the beginning. So it is funny how like as you grow, you do need different things. And I'm sure dating at my 20s probably would have been a whole different thing and would have been very fun. But it's,

I think right now for me, it's like if I go on a date, first of all, I'm paying to be there. I'm paying. I went on a date recently and it was going so bad that I said to him, I was like, you realize I'm paying to be here right now. And he looked at me like, confused and I go, I don't have somebody that takes my kid and I have five days off. My kid's with me all the time. I'm paying $100 to sit with you

and have this glass of wine right now. And I saw his whole face like completely change. I was like, yeah. So wear a nicer outfit, act like you fucking care and talk to me about fun things because otherwise, why am I wasting my time? And it is, like, it is a waste of my time. And you know how hard it is for a woman.

I have to do my hair, put my makeup on. I find a cute outfit. I usually get a new outfit. I barely look in the mirror, so I get it. You know, it's unfair. And I say, you know, because, you know, I know Sharna takes a lot of, you know, pride and how she looks and how she dresses.

And it's the same. Like, we put a lot of effort, even just to go get a cup of coffee with a guy. It takes me, you know, I'm thinking about it. And then I'm paying for it. So now I go in, I really weigh going on a date now. I'm like, is it going to be worth my time? Are you seeing for other women?

Do you feel like it makes you almost too critical, though? Possibly, yeah. Yes, 100%. Yeah. This is where the balance is so hard. So a lot of times then I'll be like, first date is. during the day when I have Elvis at school or with his manny so that I don't have to pay extra. For sure.

If you make it to a night date, then I'll pay extra. That makes perfect sense. Like I don't, I completely agree. When, again, Sharnan and I, we had coffee. Yeah. We had breakfast. Breakfast. We had lunch at a restaurant.

Like, we didn't do a nighttime date until we were actually dating. Yeah. It was like, yeah, we should probably go to a restaurant like once the sun goes down. This would be nice because I forgot what it looked like with lights on outside. I was so used to falling asleep when the sun's going down when the kids are falling asleep because we have school the next day. So there's, you know, I think putting things on it that way, figuring out ways where it doesn't cost you so you can maybe date a little freer. Or casually, yeah.

And not put so much pressure on it and not be like, look at all the work that I had to do because this is a nighttime kind of thing and I got dressed up and I did the thing. Instead, be able to show up in your sweats. And this is where I get selfish and I'm going to say I get selfish. But like my days are precious. It's the hours that I have to myself. I'm doing, I'm definitely doing a workout. You know, I love to do a workout.

I'm doing stuff for all the crazy businesses that I have and do. So like, again, even a day date is like, okay, well, I'll fit it in in this hour. And then it just feels like you're fitting it in. But then. it's like if you don't try obviously it's you're never then i am going to be sitting on the couch alone at night for the rest of my life so like you have to try so it is this hard tightrope that you have to walk and learn um and you know listen i i i hate saying things are hard i i don't even say that word anymore because i just think it's like such a negative you know connotation

It's just, it's a balance and it's very nuanced. And you know what? I have to tell you, my brother, he comes to visit me a lot. He lives in San Francisco. And the last time. He's the one you were saying Elvis is really close to. Very, very close to. They have a really special relationship.

Yes. And in fact, we called up Uncle Todd last weekend. Uncle Todd, I remember that name. Uncle Todd. You've spoken that name so many times before. Well, we called Uncle Todd because we were talking, Elvis and I were having like a really good conversation about mom and dating and like letting somebody into our lives because I told you he's the policeman at the door. And I was like, let's call up Uncle Todd to see like how Uncle Todd

can help us with this conversation. And he did. He was such a good like voice of reason. But because my brother comes down a lot and he's been married now for almost 15 years, I think, to his wife, he left and he was like, man's because that's what he calls me. He was like, he's like, he's like, I, I feel for you. He was like, this is, what you have to do is so nuanced. It's so layered. Yeah. Pride is like love.

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Listen to Drink Chams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. How is dating with Elvis? Like, how does he feel about it? It's very tough. What I see, the pattern is typically, if I decide to bring somebody I'm dating into Elvis and I's world, at first, he's, like, obsessed with the guy, and he... Like, in a good way?

great way. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is so cute. This is great. It's working. It's so cute. And then the second he clocks that the guy is not there for him, that the guy is there because he likes mom, he does this turn. And he starts to say how he doesn't like the guy anymore. And what I've now deduced from, because now Elvis is in therapy and I'm in therapy. And what I'm I've figured out is that he turns it in my, what I think he's doing is that he turns it because in his little brain and then this is, you know, it's so sad to think about if he tells mom, I really liked that guy, then that means that guy's going to be around more. Then he's going to have to share the time that he normally has with mom.

Yeah. And then he's taking you from me also. And then he told me his biggest fear and this he recently confessed is that I'll love somebody more than him. So that's what I'm dealing with. And it doesn't matter how many times I tell Elvis, Elvis, you, I will never love anyone the way I love you. It is a completely different love.

Like buddy, like there's no, like nobody. Like I can't even walk down the street and be like, oh my gosh, what a cute little girl. He slaps me and he's like, I'm the cutest kid. How dare you? Right. And I'm like, oh my God. So any advice on that one? How do I deal with that?

The thing that's hard with kids. And I, so I had to deal with this with the divorce. I think people, first of all, don't be so hard on yourself in it all. Like, yes, Elvis can absolutely be going through those things. This is the experience that Elvis is supposed to be having in his life. And this is, like you said, all those stumbles and those things that you went through, you look back on and you go, oh, my God, such a catalyst for change. Yeah.

That's what these are for him also. Thank you. It's, you don't want to rob him of this experience and what it's supposed to be. Right. I always say to people, you know, when they have this thing of, oh, well, we don't want our divorce to affect our kids. It's like, it's going to affect your kids. There's literally no way around it. Yeah.

The only choice you have is how it affects your kids. Right. It's either a positive experience. You guys are respectful of each other. You're kind to each other. You co-parent well and you make the things about the kids. Or you make it this really crazy experience to be around where it's just toxic and you feel it in the air.

And then that negatively affects your kids. But you don't have a choice of whether it affects your kids or not, ever. You don't have a choice. over whether dating and finding somebody new affects Elvis. You, the only choice you have is how it affects Elvis. The person you are through it all, the conversations you have with him, the therapy that he's dealing with, the conversations and the love and the support that he feels through it all,

because he will grow up and understand it better. He will. Yeah. He's, right now he's got a young brain. He's not always going to have a young brain. Right. And like I know in being a parent that parenting can be really thankless for years. Yeah.

You're like, God, I like what? Yeah. I literally give you all of myself and you just don't appreciate any of it. Totally. That's how I felt the other day. I was just like, you don't know how hard I'm trying. I, there was, there was, so Cassius, my 24 years. year old is an actor. Totally on his own. I didn't push it on him. His mom didn't push it on him.

He found... Great name, by the way. He such a great name. Cassius. Such a cool name. He found theater in school and found a passion for it and a love for it. And it's literally his entire life. Yeah. He, we were talking one time and he was talking about being on set and something came up and he said, I remember being on set with you and the way you would deal with situations and watching you talking to other people and doing stuff. And I realized it's not the things that I said to him. It's the person that I was when he was around. I truly led by example. And that's what you are doing with Elvis. You're leading by example. You're showing him that there can be confusing times. There can be times where you feel like this isn't what you want. This isn't right.

but if you are kind through it all and compassionate and you speak about it all and you share the way you feel and all those things you'll you'll get out of it like you'll find a way out of it and you'll be okay yeah i love that advice brian thank you like you'll yeah he'll be okay yeah he's had a hard good life too up until this point yeah but that's okay that's the that's what builds the resilience that is going to make him the man that you are so incredibly proud of when he's older. And you are hopefully with somebody new and you get to share that like, oh, my God, look at, I remember when you were little and look at the man you took, which he's a man in life

way longer than he's a kid. Yeah. Like people lose sight of that. I know. You childhood is, you have a good like 14 years at the most before they are completely settled in who they are. You know, I, this, thank you for bringing this up. It is a huge thing I'm like really focused on right now.

I think we make our kids grow up too fast. And one of my good friends has a 12 year old. And I'm constantly reminding him, he is a baby. He's 12. He's 12. He's a baby. He has his whole life to be treated like an adult and face trials and tribulations and stress and anxiety. And guess what?

He will. He's 12 right now. He gets to be a kid. Let him be a kid. That's tough, though, for a, I got to say, like for a dad, for a relationship between a dad and a son compared to a mom and a son, they're very different relationships. I always heard when a boy, when a man has a boy, he's a father. And when he has a girl, he's a daddy. And there are two different relationships.

Oh, gosh, totally. When you have a boy, you want to raise them to be a good man. Yeah. And what does that entail? That entails like, I want to teach you how to be self-sufficient, how to take care of people around you, how to like do those things and be able to step up and, you know, order what you want and take control. the room, do the things.

Like with Cassius, where did that click in for you? Do you remember? Was it young? Was it when he was young? I honestly feel like it was innately there, but it was a process that I was learning along the way. There's a lot of the parenting with Cassius that is different from the parenting now with Zame.

Yeah. Of 100%. Being for it. It's like I've learned so much and I look at it in a different way. Of course. Pride is like love. You feel it in your heart. IHR Radio, Canada's number one streaming app for radio and podcasts,

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We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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a kid. I'm going to have a kid for the rest of my life. It's like, no, you're not. You are raising a kid now, and then you're going to have a child the rest, or, you know, a friend the rest of your life, a family member the rest of your life. Like you're raising, it's a different thing. One of the best things I ever, I ever read constantly are these people, people will do these breakdowns sometimes of like how many summer vacations you really have. How many Christmases you have to, but they're the truth. And I think if people stop, stopped stepping back and going, oh my God, summer break is coming. I've got three months of what am I going to do? And it's like you only have 13 of these? 13 summers. I just thought and then that's

it. I know. I know. And then never again is your kid going to want to hang out with you during summer. I know. So make the best of it. Do like raging waters and the vacations and stay in a hotel, go to the zoo, do the phone things that you can. I know. Elvis will never go to camp. And I, I, I'm sorry, you're never going to sleepaway camp. You're never going to sleepaway camp. It's at our house. Yeah. But like, I mean, we, I, I had my siblings. So it's a slightly different. Obviously, Elvis is an only child. But like, yeah, we never got, we never got shipped to summer camp. It wasn't even an option because it was like, no, you have your siblings. Play in the backyard. Right. It's summer. Yeah. But now that I am so, you know, hold dearly Elvis. And I'm the same way. Brian. I'm like, you're not even going to nine to two camp. Megan's the same way. I know I wanted to do a sleepaway thing. And Megan was like, nope. Not going to happen. So Noah was like, okay, fine. I guess I'll do drama camp again, you know, things have changed. I know you have to get somewhere. You have to be a mother. You have to pick up Elvis. I do. Can I ask you one more question? Of course you can.

When I started, I was, I was talking to about like, like how, you know, I feel so independent. in a relationship and then like but needing to like let the man come in like as a man and the different relationships in your life but maybe especially with Sharna just because like it's been your last one and your final one and whatever like do you feel like does that relate to you as a man like do you feel like as a man, I do need to be needed. I like when I'm desired. I like when I can be the man of the house. Of course. Of course. But I think for you that you're going to find that naturally. I think you're going to find a situation where your guard comes down naturally. You don't, you feel safe in it. So you just then start living into it and sinking into it. And you feel that relief of like, I don't have to do

all that stuff anymore. Yeah. Like I don't have to be the one that is the sole provider and the sole like, you know, uh, firm place to land all the time. Like I can sit back a little bit. If I were you, I wouldn't put pressure on myself for that though. Stay in therapy, be doing what you're doing. continue to like really look at yourself and figure out the things that you do and the things you don't want to do anymore in relation to yourself. Yeah. But as far as a relationship goes, trust that if you're going to go into something, you're going to need to put your guard down.

You're going to have to. It's going to be scary as shit. I know. But you're going to have to, if that's what you want. Yeah. If you want that kind of a relationship, that's something you're going to have to do. If you don't, again, nothing wrong with that. If you said to me, I'm good.

Like if I find a partner cool, like maybe things will change. But right now I'm fine. That's, it's fine. There is no pressure. Don't let any outside pressures make you feel like you need to be in something. Yeah. Now do it because you truly want it and you have met somebody and you're spending time with someone that you love sharing.

all of it with. And you feel safe to, and then you, these are conversations that you have with them of like, I have always done these things. And this is scary as shit

for me with you. Because I'm putting down these guards that I've had. Yeah. But you make that a, like a rock. Yeah. Within the conversation.

You make that an anchor thing. You know, you share those things. That's, that's the important. You want to find somebody that you can truly share that with. And if you're with the right person,

they're not only going to understand those things, they're going to fucking love you because you are entrusting them with helping you through those things. Yeah, okay. Thank you. I love you so glad that we got to sit down and do this. And I know... And I could talk to for six hours.

I know we could. And like I... But this show is I do part two and I think your part two has been so invaluable for people to hear and we can talk about it forever. I have a million more questions. Like you said, we could talk about this for another six hours.

But thank you so much for coming here and doing this. It's been amazing. I love you too. It's been amazing being here. And you are, we have had just an instant like bond and connection. I know. I love it.

And I've got your back anytime you ever need anything. And I've always felt the same. You're the best guy. Thank you, Brian. I love you. Okay, bye. Bye.

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