The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Celebrities Bring Messy To Another Level

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

This week is messier than ever when it comes to divorce headlines! From jokes about murdering their spouse, to alleged bombshell tell-alls in the works...these exes are ready to fight!You won't believe which divorced musician is rumored to be dating a Game of Thrones star, and which Olympic athlete has found religion after divorce. Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It feels like we have. I know. Should we talk about my partner? Yes, please. So I danced with Ryan Lockty many, many decades ago, it feels like, though it wasn't, it was probably just a decade ago. He obviously has gone through a divorce, not obviously, but for those that keep up with the Joneses, that's what's been happening over in Lockty World.

And has now been a born again. after a rocky year, which is great, like more power to him. I just, I never saw signs of that when we were dancing together, not like, you know, by the way, people can totally evolve and absolutely, you know, turn to God when you've hit rock bottom. It happens a lot. Well, he had also just gotten out of rehab. Yes, and that is something I actually just found out recently.

I had no idea that he had such issues with substance abuse. Mind you, you know, when I danced with him, I was not sober. So, like, we partied together a little bit. Like, we would go out, but I would kind of keep him on a tight leash because I'll never forget. We went to go to, we went to Vegas and part of our package before, you know, the stuff that they air prior to our dance, we had to learn from the Bellagio Show O from Cirque Slay. And so we had to go to Vegas for a weekend. And my friends were there just, it was a coincidence. We went out.

And I was like, Ryan, at 2 a.m. I was like, you better go back to your room. We've got camera blocking tomorrow. I don't want to smell alcohol on you. And supposedly, per my friends, he pretended to go to his room and then was out till seven in the morning. I was so mad at him. But that was our relationship. We were like brother-sister.

Wow. Well, I mean, listen, you can't say, if he's found God, God bless him. I guess he even did, right? I mean, he did a, what is it called? Just got baptized? Baptized. See, I'm sorry. Right. Jewish girl. Right. He just got back. Did he do it? Was it like a whole thing with water? Yeah, with water. Yes, definitely. I mean, he's a swimmer. Just kidding. Okay.

But, you know, he said that he loved sharing his life with his fans, followers. But this divorce with Kayla, his ex-wife, hasn't been necessarily a smooth ride. I mean, what divorce is at the end of the day. But they have issues, you know, obviously with custody. She does mention, I guess, in court that, you know, he was suffering from substance abuse. And she didn't want him. around the kids. I mean, it started to get, I mean, from the article that I read, I guess she mentioned that one time he was sniffing something in front of the kids and then was nervous that he was going to drive the kids, but obviously he denies that. It's just a battle. I'm just grateful. I never had kids with my ex. Yeah. Well, so I feel like specifically from men, but there's a lot of like after divorce reinvention. You know what I mean? Like a lot of sort of, I don't know this obviously the specifics here but a lot of trauma I mean this is is well you do know very traumatic right they say it's like up there like one of the top three absolutely you know right

so I guess some reach for alcohol and drugs they numb they want to numb and good for him he's reaching for God yeah so right so I don't know I mean I also well I don't know I also think that a lot of times hope it's not performative i hope he means it i wonder if his he is dating somebody i believe or is he engaged i don't think he's engaged no he's dating somebody molly gillahan i wonder if maybe she's christian you know you never know i mean i hope that she's a you know whoever it doesn't matter if she's christian or not honestly if she's a great influence that's a good sign i mean she also comes from i think she has kids of her own as well um have you ever had a spiritual awakening after a breakup or divorce?

Absolutely not. My pattern, let's see, well, because I've been, you know, I've been married a while. Right. But my pattern was always to throw myself into something to numb it, and I never was smart enough to think God. I was more like, you know, other men, who my father used to say this disgusting thing. And he said a lot of disgusting things, one of which was the only way to get over one person is to get under another.

Oh, I know. That's nasty. I mean, my father was quite nasty as well. Yeah. My father was, yeah. Are we sure? Are we not sisters? Oh, I wish.

But listen, I mean, I think I in some way probably follow that advice, not quite as literally, but I always threw myself into stuff more than no spiritual awakening. I think it's something that's society today because we celebrate the hustle. And I think hustle just equals numbing because we're just constantly needing to stay busy. And sitting in stillness is terrifying for. I think a lot of people. But I, for, I mean, for me, I definitely went, I did in a way turn to Transcendental Meditation as soon as I split. Like, I needed, and mind you, I was already looking into it prior, obviously, during COVID.

And you've been sober, you've been sober for a long time. So I'm wondering. So that's a long time. I mean, you, I'm assuming that there's a big spiritual component to your surprise. Well, it's God. Yeah. It's absolutely that, you know, we hand, you know, our lives. to God and we, you know, we have a higher power, whether you want to call it God or not.

But, you know, there is that as far as the program goes, you know. Right. But I felt, like, especially during COVID, you know, I really dove into, like, all of these online courses, mental health courses. I signed up for so much. And I think it was just at that time, though I was still doing Dancing with the Stars because the show still happened, but, like, there was something that I just wanted more of, and I think it was just spirituality. I never really, I was born, I was baptized Catholic, my mother's Catholic,

but I never really, I didn't really want to sit up and stand up and stand up. I'm just kidding. Oh, well, you don't like exercise, right? You don't like to move. No, I hate, I hate it. I prefer just sitting my ass down on chairs. Yeah. But anyway, no, that I can just see it now. She hates Catholicism. Like, no, no, no, no. We're not going there, folks. This is a little tight joke. I mean, this is, we're getting off on attention, but I did, during COVID, I definitely was searching also. And a lot of Eckartole. God, he puts me to sleep, though, that voice. His voice is so soothing. I would take long walks and, and, you know, and maybe, you know, after something like this, like a divorce, that seems to be the healthiest way to go, right?

For sure. I mean, I think it's all numbing at the end of the day, right? We're all numbing. Yes. Okay. So apparently Russell Crowe is not interested in getting married again. Did you, apparently he was on 60 Minutes and he has his current girlfriend, Brittany, Thier Roe. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. And there were rumors that they were getting engaged and he said, no way, no how. Yeah, I watched the interview. It was, yeah, he's definitely, I mean, he's 61, she's 33. Will it last forever? No, nothing's forever, period. but at the end of the day, you know, maybe if she wants to get married 10 years from now, he seems to be pretty like firm with that.

Oh, yeah, with not getting married, right. With not getting married. And honestly, I don't even know. People ask me all the time if I would ever get married again. I said, well, first I need to start dating. I mean, let's just start there. But I don't know. I just think it's a contract that can get real messy, right?

Like, I don't think, I think once you've been married. I'm positive. I'm not positive, but I would think that if he was going to marry this much younger woman, he would be careful, I would think he would, there would be an ironclad. But that's what I mean. Why even go there? Like, just don't get married. This was like the uncomfortable conversations, especially if he doesn't, I mean, he seems to be in love with her. I don't know this woman. So this is all speculation. But if you're 33 and you're dating Russell Crow, like are you doing it just for the front of it? I don't know, maybe. Most 33-year-old women,

I know are, there is some sort of game game in sight, right? But they also are, you know, at least the ones that I know, not necessarily everyone, but now you're dating this older man and he's saying he doesn't want to get married ever. I have no idea what is going on with this 33, I'm guessing, very beautiful, smart, wonderful person. I don't know. Mom, her mom, a little worried. Yeah. I mean, we also don't know. Maybe the mom promotes it. Like, we don't know what do you think? But all I know is that that interview, that sit down an interview with Russell Crow actually, it was interesting because I've been a fan of his and I've seen a couple of his interviews. You could tell he's in a place in his life where one, he's grateful

for all the work that he's still able to get. As a 61-year-old actor who's done this for so many years, he assumed that he was going to be out of the business by now. And he said that he's also, it's great, it's great that he has boundaries now as far as not saying yes to everything. You know, you can tell that his priorities have shifted, which I think, for me, at least, through that interview, he comes across a lot more happy, just happier and peaceful. Really? Do you think he's hot? He was. Yeah, he was.

Gladiator. When he was on that, wait, what was the movie with the two personality? What was it? Oh, my God. No, the two persons. No, you mean the one. A simple. Yeah, no, he, with the three personalities.

Not a simple life. That's Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie. Not a simple life. Yeah, I know, a beautiful mind, a beautiful mind. Beautiful mind. Yeah. he was brilliant in that that he was hot there i didn't think he was necessarily hot in that maybe not like as that but everybody has different taste charles i personally thought gladiator was

not his character okay three personalities yeah gladiator never i never saw it but he seemed to be hot there yeah yeah but anyway listen he is hot and he's working in he's dating a 33 year old and he's very uh honest which i admire so she's okay i'm okay you know he says He likes to be called a boyfriend, and he thinks it's romantic. Yeah. Okay. Whatever tickles your pickle? Yeah.

You go, baby. You go. All right. So here's one that I'm a little, I'm just, I've been upset about it. I'm still upset about it. I can't seem to get past it. Yep. I mean, come on.

Not definitely, right? I loved her and Hugh Jackman together. I really, really did. And apparently she's shopping a bombshell tell-all. But this one really got to me. And I know we were talking earlier a little bit about it. And there were rumors that he was gay. But he seemed to adore her.

And I was bummed when they announced their split. And now I'm going to be really bummed. If she starts to talk about him not being a good guy, I all bets her off. I'm going to bed. She seems to have some class, though. I am just telling you right now that if Hugh Jackman is not a good man and a kind man and a honorable man, I don't want to hear it. Come on.

We all have our skeletons. No, not Hugh Jackman. He's not a cartoon character. Oh, please. I love him. I love him. I love him. Listen, we're human. I know.

I mean, I think that she probably felt betrayed. I know there was the whole thing with Sutton Foster, a Broadway star, and they got together. It seemed very quickly. I don't know. Maybe he was cheating with her. The whole thing thumbs me out. Hey, it happens quite often. more than we know, I think. And it is a shame because it just makes you just have no hope

if you're a single woman. Hugh Jackman's going to. Yeah. It has nothing to do. I mean, look, I just hope that she just tells her side of the story. And if you just stick to the way you feel, my therapist always taught me this, then you're good. You cleaned your side of the street, right? It's just when you start to make accusations and, you know, assumptions or accuse people, it just never looks good or sounds good. Would you ever consider writing a book?

I have, but not about my ex. About your divorce. No, I mean about your divorce. Never. No. Why? Because it's something I want to keep to myself. It's really none of anyone's business. I mean, I wish she wasn't writing a book. But maybe it's not about that. Maybe it's more about her perspective and just living under his head, like under him. Well, they called it a bombshell tell all. Well, they don't know that for sure. This is an assumption. It's true. And let me tell you, especially lately, you can't believe everything you read.

Amen, sister. And I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm with you. Yeah. You really can't. I'm with you. Yeah. But would you write a tell-all?

I just, I don't know. I, would I write a tell-all? Well, first of all, I don't know if I was divorced and angry about it. Or like when you were divorced, yeah. When I was separated. Separated, sorry. When I turned out of divorce, so I'm glad I didn't write a tell-all at that point. No, but do you know why I wouldn't, though?

So my husband, who was almost my ex-husband, And he, it was, our separation was never about he was a shitty guy or shitty to me or a bad father or a bad husband. We just were disconnected. And the last thing I would have wanted to do, which is probably we were able to get back together, has hurt him, you know, that was always part of why we couldn't get divorced. We were both like, I don't know. It's not about that.

But I, so about Jeff. And not only that, Jeff Fessler is the straightest late. There would be nothing interesting to write about. So I can write a tell all, though, about my family, not my entire family, but things, my youth, my past. Yes. As long as it's focused on you, then that's fine. I think it's when you want it to be like cathartic, not to hurt anyone. I mean, that's what I did with my book when I, I mean, I talked, well, it was the first time I talked about being molested as a little girl. It was very therapeutic. It was scary. But again, like, I'm not talking about anything outside of me, right? Like, I'm just talking about my experiences. And people can.

get offended if she does that with this book that's going to come out but at the end of the day again if you stick to your experience you can't really be you know upset about that it's not even offended or even judgmental about it I'm just more disappointed I have this you know I know he's not perfect and we know nobody is but I have loved him for so long but anyway I mean you can love the imperfection too yeah nope moving on so Chris Martin and Sophie Turner so Sophie Turner was married to a friend of mine, Joe Jonas. I did a show with him on NBC. Yeah, he's a great guy.

I never ran into him, though, when he married Sophie Turner. So I don't know really what that relationship was like. But Chris Martin and Sophie Turner are moving on together. Wait, Joe Jonas was not the one with type one diabetes. That was... Well, that's the other one. That's, yes, Nick. Who's married to Priyanka or something?

Yes. and I always I'm always keyed into that because of my daughter loving type 1 but anyway Oh she does? She does yeah Oh, I'm sorry Thank you We can talk about it.

She's had it since she was 12 Oh wow There are many many many hard parts of it But I appreciate that Nick Jonas is he's a great advocate Yeah And also the idea that because a lot of people confuse type 2 with type 1 And so that's hard especially when she was younger And she were people judging what she was eating

It had nothing to do with what she was eating, right? So, or my style. These boys, though, I have to say I've hung out with them quite often, like back in our days, you know, when I, especially when I was doing the show with Joe. And they're really good, solid guys, even the whole family is, you know. They're from Wycoff, which is right, almost like a neighboring town here. Oh, cool. I think the other brother lives there. Yeah, he's like a builder for a while.

Yeah, yeah. I just love that they reunited and they were on tour again. This is not what this is about. But, Kevin, we can't help it. But Chris Martin and Sophie Turner. I mean, yes. What do you think of that? I think that I was so obsessed with Chris Martin and Dakota Johnson.

I know. What happened? I don't know. But I find both of those two people so beautiful and sexy. She's so sexy to me. Like, I believe me, I'm straight. Okay. But like, she's something very, very mysterious about her and gorgeous.

Yeah. 100%. She's got the bangs like yours. She's just gorgeous. There's something. Anyway, so I was a little throne that they broke up. For some reason, I thought that that was going to last. And I don't know in terms of him and Sophie Turner. I mean, they have the British thing in common, right? And apparently she had had a crush on him for a while, even when she was with. Joe introduced her. Right. Or did like a, right. Like a birthday, like a birthday message. Yeah, it's like a cameo almost. Right. Like great. Yep. Yep. So I mean, they're two more beautiful people, I guess. 19 year age difference between them. I mean, I actually, my dance competitive partner prior to me moving to L.A. before I did dancing, that was the same age gap. I don't think it's a big, I mean, I'm sure it is. Wait, how many?

How many years? 19 years. I don't know. You know what? In this world, especially this world of celebrities, it's, you know, I'm used to it now. Age is just a number. age is just a number They both have kids

She's a single mom Right His kids are obviously older I just hope no one got hurt in the process You know I mean like I think that they were really sly The way that Chris and Dakota broke up Was so like under the radar

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Not me either. Physically, but that's okay. Once he starts singing, I do. I mean, have you been to his concert? It was the best concert ever. Really? Oh, yeah. Made him even hotter.

Him and Jennifer Lawrence were even, right? Remember him and Jennifer Lawrence? That happened for a while. Yeah, he does very well. He does pretty well for himself. He just needs to sing that song. No, I don't find him. I mean, he's not my type for sure.

but, you know, once he starts singing, all bets are off. I mean, that's the music. I know. It's the same thing with dancing. Like, if I see a really good dancer who's like super masculine and just like confident, which is hard to find, you know, because look, it is what it is, especially in the ballroom industry, you know, it's interesting. I, when I was a competitor, I was had the hots for everybody that could dance, like the top finalist.

I was like, oh, yeah, you're hot, you're gay, it doesn't matter. You're hot. You're hot. You're hot. Like, yeah. Wait. So can you tell. Like, who of all your partners or even contestants, can you say?

About what? No, I'm talking about my competitive life, which is a different life. I know, but I'm talking about. You're dancing on the stars? No, no, they're not hot to me if I have to actually teach you how to dance. No, you're not hot. Any of the other one? Okay, sorry, I'm just digging.

Okay, yes, weekly. Yes, exactly. All right, talk about Britney Snow. Let's talk about her. Did you watch that Netflix series that she was just a part of? Yeah, but what was it called again? I did. Don't know, but it was freaking made.

Hunting wise, of course. Hunting wise. Hunting wise. And it's funny because I, so, and I knew I knew her because she's another beauty, but I loved her in pitch perfect. And there are certain scenes with her that I just will never forget, like the one where she opens the curtain on Anna Kendrick when she's singing and she's like, it's all excited and she's in hairspray too.

I mean, she's, but yeah. So I'm watching hunting wives. And it took me a minute, even though, you know, you know her. Yeah, no, I definitely, back in my clubbing days, I think she was dating one of my friends who went out a lot as well. And we, like, we just, you know, cross paths. And she seems really sweet and humble and has stayed that way. It seems like. Yep.

I love that. She had a hard time when she split from Tyler's right, stand-al-al-arms. When you go through any type of heartbreak or split, like, for me at least, I don't eat either. Like, that's my way of handling the stress. I think it's different for people, certain people, right? Some people like to stress eat. And I just, food is the last thing I ever want when I'm going through something so painful. I never thought I would get to a place in my life where that, I, like, that happened to me where I would actually lose my appetite because I was, I was riddled with eating disorders, you know, growing up and into my 20s.

but now I don't know if it's since my kids been born or when I get anxious I can't eat and I get this like feeling that wells up in me and I just the last thing I could do is like ingest chew yeah and it yeah but it wasn't like that when I was younger usually when I was younger I was driven to eat oh interesting but as I've gotten older I definitely when I get nervous and anxious I just basically usually I just curl up in my bed in a very tight ball and yeah yeah and hope and hope it was a bad What I love about this article, though, is that she's really promoting the fact that she was really loving her little girl inside of her. And the way that she was showing compassion and the

self-talk, I definitely can take a page out of her book because I think that really is so important. It's more important than we think. Like, we all have that little person inside of us that was not either properly raised or that needs that mothering that maybe they didn't get. And I think it's so easy for me, at least, to the negative self-talk really gets loud, especially because, you know, I live alone. And sometimes, you know, it's just, you don't, you're not really aware of it unless you're a freaking, you know, monk. But like, you know, I know I have thoughts in my head. I have, I have become with therapy many, many, many years of therapy. Because my therapist also says that I have to, like, big girl Jennifer has to embrace little girl, Jennifer. If you

guys by the way whoever's listening so she talked so brittany would say to herself okay baby like i'm just going to read it straight from from this article but okay baby girl do you want a bagel let's get you a bagel we're going to toast it we're going to put some cream cheese on it said all you can eat okay that's okay and that is because of her split from her ex yes but i i know that a lot of times my own therapist will say when i get upset like almost like how to almost like embrace myself you know what i'm saying Like put my arms and talk to myself in that. Like physically do it. Yes.

And remind myself that I'm an adult, right? And what's happening inside me is not feeling very adult or feels like a scared little girl. You're triggered. Yes. Yes. Yes. When you get triggered like that. And yeah, I think that's really cool and really cool to share because I don't hear people

share that often. And it reminded me of what I'm often told to do in therapy, right? I don't think a lot of people do this. Like, I think that you have to be very intentional and very self-aware. to even catch yourself and the self-talk, to even know if you're saying negative things to yourself or not. Like, to even know that is pretty spectacular, actually. I agree.

I agree. I was happy here because I love, yeah, I do too. I love the message. I do, too. No, I'm telling you, that's like anybody listening, I spend a lot of money on therapy to learn that. So. Yeah, you and me both.

I'm going to do it for the rest of my life. Yeah, yeah, and debris and also debris. to breathe to remind myself right oh yeah breath is so important like i only know that through because of dancing but like if i wasn't dancing i don't think i'd have any sense of any body awareness breath how breath can literally change the way you feel in a second your autonomic nervous system if you if you practice oh everything oh yeah it can change it can from fear to like just calmness in a matter of seconds if you turn into your breath but obviously there's certain techniques do you Listen to Dr. Huberman, his podcast. Oh, fascinating. I'm just so fascinated by just

how our brain works, right? And he's a neurologist. Yeah. I will. I'll send you his podcast. It's fascinating. Okay. Good on you, Brittany Snell. Congrats. I love that. I'm going to definitely try that. Hopefully it works. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to talk about Tori spelling? Yes. Yeah. So sad. I mean, listen, that's just been ugly for so long. I feel like, like, you know, courtory. Yeah. You know, I don't always mean, by the way, I don't know if it sounds like, does he think it sounds like we're always sort of more sympathetic to the woman?

And maybe we're women. I think that would be our inclination. I think in this world we need it now more than ever because I'm pretty sure women are attacking women. It's happening often. What? Have you watched Real Housewives of New Jersey, Sherroberg? No, I've just watched my social media.

My social media accounts. they're just borderline like it's so toxic and I cannot avoid it obviously right yeah yeah I do I agree with coming at me all women it's all women isn't really all women so depressing I mean it just shows you that so this whole time then when you're saying women support women we're all full of shit then because it's like I agree I've noticed a pattern too it's like when you look good when you feel good when you just really do like feel like yourself that's when people try and tear you down and then it's when you are the opposite or you're struggling and they see that then they're there for you it's interesting and i think it's all about feeling less than not enough yeah when i was a little girl

is what i was going to say that that is the reason because i didn't feel supported and loved enough i think as who i was that's why i found my identity outside of myself and that's now what i'm dealing with today. It's like, I am enough without whatever it is that I think I was because that has nothing to do with the person that I am, right? I am enough regardless of what I'm doing as far as my job goes or my or my love life or whatever it is. It doesn't matter. You know, my my therapist and this is something that has, I don't know why. Certain things that you learn in therapy, right? They are, they stick and they help and they help and they help. So, she one day she just held up this pencil and she said to me that so life is not I don't know about life but

let's say even there's this feeling especially with with fame right that you're either at the top and if you're at the top you're always worried about the fall right you're at the top and the energy is about your energy becomes about that you know when you're not or you're at the bottom you feel or you feel like you're at the bottom right but the the ideal place to be is over here, outside of that, and indignity, right, in dignity and peace, knowing that and gratitude, and gratitude, knowing that no matter what, you're just as special as, you're just as special and no more special than the person next to you. We all have pulls, yes.

And we are all, there's, without doing anything, we are. We are one. I know that sounds so cheesy, but seriously, we are. I agree. I agree. And it's society that puts you on a pedestal. And then you either believe it and you go a little delulu. That's the trick.

That's the trick when you get any kind of, I think, of fame or even success in life to not feed into that, right? It's so hard, though. I feel like, yeah, but awareness. Awareness. That's why it's better to be famous when you're older. I had the whole time, as soon as I started, housewife, thank God, I was in therapy for, you know, 20 years before and continued it. But that was a big part of it. For me, once I got on the show, and I don't have the kind of fame, obviously, that you have or whatever.

I mean, you can't, I mean, you don't need to measure it. Well, even a little bit of it is do stuff things to your head. It's social media. Everyone goes through it, too. Everyone. We're talking about how it doesn't matter how everyone sees me. I'm not at the top and I'm not at the bottom. I'm out.

I'm not even, like, away from that line, try to be, you know, living in dignity, blah, blah, blah. And not, no one's better than me and I am not better than anyone. Correct. And the noise does get loud. Yeah. So, I mean, I wonder how Tori feels, though, because Tori's been like, she's been raised in this type of environment. Like, she, I would assume she only knows that life of celebrity, right? Yeah. I mean, listen, I think that even from her beginning, right, with 902 and O, everyone assumed that she was, it was all about being an EPO baby. Perfect. Yeah. And yeah, and she came from this royal family in Hollywood. Talk about getting beat up online. And this is, you know, going back years. Bullying. yeah well back in the day because was unless i'm screwing this up but he was married when they got together i have no idea what his i have to ask our producer hather says yes and she got a lot of shit about it wait so she was the other woman she was the other woman oh got it and they were madly madly

madly madly in love and he wasn't already separated or anything no i don't think so i mean it happened famous too someone who was it with oh they met on a movie So she had to endure that, right? Everyone's judgment. Dean. Oh, McDermott. Hello. Okay. So, yeah, they had to deal with a lot of that. And I was rooting for them too. They got a lot of kids. Tons of kids. I did run into her when I had my other podcast with IHeart. And I was in Napa and she was there. We didn't get to talk much. I mean, she also did Dancing with the Stars. I was so proud of her for doing Dancing with the Stars because she's been asked, I would say, every single season. And she said, and I would try and convince her, like just like nicely convince her. Obviously, you know, you still need to tell these people the truth of what the actual thing is, what they're going to be stepping into. But overall, it was such a great experience. She had one of the best partners, Pasha. I'm just happy she did it because it's very much also an individual, like achievement as these celebrities come on because it is hard, right?

And if you can get through it, no matter how long you last, you feel so proud of yourself. Is that what you tell people before they do it? Like, what was your warning to her? If they ask questions, like, is it seven days a week? Yes, it is seven days a week, right? But it's also, it doesn't have to be seven days a week, but it's at your own risk because you're the one dancing, right? So I always wonder like how when it starts. It's not 24 hours.

We don't, it's not big brother. No, right, of course. But I'm saying, I don't know, but I'm saying like people's bodies that aren't in shape, right? And like, how do you, it must be so shocking to. It's shocking to people whose bodies are in shape too, because this is a way different way. You're not just, I mean, the way we move our bodies is not normal. You're forcing your bodies to move ways that is not natural. And the more awkward it feels, the better it looks from the outside of.

All right. You and I can go off on like tangents. Go ahead. That's really fun. But, okay, I'm trying to like, what is this podcast about? Oh, divorce. Divorce. Well, you know, there's so many different meanings of divorce.

But Tori's spelling, basically, she settles her divorce finally, right? With Dean, she's requesting for spousal support two years after separating. So, yeah. So she has requested spousal and child support. And so I guess they filed for divorce, I feel like pretty recently. So it obviously didn't end well. So the filing didn't indicate whether or not they had a pre-nup in place. Yeah.

Which means most likely that that wasn't the case. Yeah. Right. Oh, I love her. I do love Tori. So I'm just wishing her so much love. I met her once at an I heart thing. and she was so, so, so sweet to me.

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Just so you know, after reading this whole long-ass article, I'm also on Teresa's side, just FYI. Well, I will tell you that talk about the sweet, kind, human. She seems it. What a doll. And I did watch The Golden Bachelor, and I interviewed a few of those folks. And she was just, she's a special person. Did you know Teresa prior to her being on the podcast? No, I didn't.

But we were actually all in Tahoe together for, yeah, and it was really great. And Leslie, who was on Golden Bachelor 2 and that she went really, really far. But anyway, so apparently, according to Teresa, he said some whack-a-doodly, do things to her. Really kind of scary, right? I mean, red flag. Well, yeah, red, what's darker the red, black? I don't know. So apparently she went to his house and they took a walk around, they called it Pretty Lake.

and she said they were coming to the end of the lake and he goes do you see that shed up there that's where I'm going to hide your body after I kill you and chop cut you up into pieces like that is crazy and she said she was laughing nervous laugh but he was not okay that is crazy I would have ran for the hills yeah I don't know how in what context

that would you ever ask her I didn't know about this So when I, when Teresa and I became friends, I knew that it, it was not good. But this just came out. So, and she didn't mention it to me at all. Right. Creepy. Yeah. So she seems to be a little bit of an attention grabber.

Yes. I would agree with that. I think he loved the attention a little bit. Now, mind you, there's two sides to every story. Absolutely. But I don't know. It was all a little. I mean, like I said, I never watched it.

but yet I felt emotionally connected when they said they were divorcing after just like a couple of days of being married, right? Yes. Well, I think also I guess this was react. This just came out like yesterday. Because of his book. Right. And so maybe she was reacting to that.

I mean, she said, she goes, I don't think he would have killed me. He says, I don't think that was true. It just spoke to an underlying feeling about me. like he wanted she felt like he just wanted to get rid of her right that's so odd okay so basically the golden bachelor detailed his romance with his final rose winner in his memoir golden years she's laying out her own perspective and recently shared an unsettling memory with her former husband okay so yes so this is why this is all happening okay got it got she's reacting to all of his claims well there was quite a few from what i read yeah look i I, there's been Bachelor, Bachelorette contestants on Dancing with the Stars, and I believe that, look, it's not normal, the situation you're put in, right? Like, everything moves so fast. And then, yeah, there is that moment of silent or quiet time where it hasn't been announced who the winner is. And then you have to do this, like, hideout.

Like, it's just not a normal environment. It seems like it would be romantic, but it's probably intense. Oh, I'm sure. Because, like, the cameras, like, some, you know, people don't know. Sometimes you perform in front of the cameras and you don't know you're performing. Right, right. You know, you're very aware of it. And then all of a sudden they're not there.

And you're like, wait, who is this person who's not always on? Right? Like, I know I'm not always on in normal life. I mean, neither. You know what was nice about Golden because you don't watch it, but as opposed to the others, the Bachelor, the Beginning, Bachelor and Bachelorette. The Golden Bachelors, I felt like it was a very inspiring show and not. Listen, they even had like bachelors in paradise.

They had both the golden and the younger ones. And the younger ones were almost condescending. Like, oh, they're so cute. Look at them. But like when it was just the golden bachelor, it was really nice. And see how older people. Also, how like the guys interacted with each other. Like a gentleman for the bachelorette was so great.

And even the women, they were actually making friends. And all of that was very inspiring. But in the end, it did not work out. And she actually said that he wanted her to quit working. Well, they said that they supposedly discussed this. And she said that she was going to quit from his side of the story. Right, right. I don't think you should ever expect anybody to change their lives for you.

You know what I mean? You can't change anybody. Right. Yeah, he's retired. I guess he wanted her to hang out with him. I would never be able to sleep. Keep her independence. Yes, exactly.

Get some insurance on that body. of yours yeah thank you but you know i don't like i said to you before i'm not obviously i don't i wasn't there even though i'm friends with teresa and he does a pod with um amy robach and tj holmes that you guys can listen to so i would be interested to hear in hearing his and no one does a pod like those two so i would be interested in hearing you know what he had to say so i mean it's i thought that because maybe of their age they would be able to keep it nice oh well well well i do believe though that maybe do you think the network had anything to do with the fact that they had to announce it publicly that they were going to separate because it was so soon right so i think it's a whole

thing yes i think i think they did i guess there's a i guess you sign a contract of course and by the way like the amount of just everything i mean they even said this in the article someone referred to the fact that they didn't want to back out i mean the production of it the people pleasing the fact that they you know all these people traveled to be there at their wedding it's like that was on tv and that the world's right yeah it's a lot it is and you're not thinking about yourself though you should because this is your day you're thinking about crap I have people traveling from across the world to come here like you're like this is the rest of my life it makes no sense now right if you think about it and like right but then when you're in a dress already and it's like count down till

the freaking prince and princess gets married you're gonna do it you're doing it with a smile on your face well he's already found someone else apparently he's already engaged so you know would you do it would you go on no i know you wouldn't of course you wouldn't the bachelor no there was talks of this many eons ago but i would have back back then when i was drinking probably well if i was single i think i would you would yeah i could see you on it really you know what i can only assume this though is that i believe maybe it was there a sense of like just authenticity when you saw the golden bachelor because they weren't putting on a show definitely from So during the Golden Bachelor, the women specifically felt, they were not just felt, because I've actually interviewed a few of them, and they are authentic.

And on the show, what I saw on the show was what I got, you know, when I was talking to them on the pod and Theresa and Leslie off the pod. So, yes. And in terms of the guys, you know, on The Bachelorette, they were adorable. They bonded. And it was a friendship. The Golden Bachelorette, right? Yes, yes. That was what I think makes those shows so special.

Yes, because you're mature enough that that is important friendship, right? But the golden is specific because I don't know if the other ones do that. Maybe they do. Yeah, yeah. I don't know about this season. It's not so good. But anyways, my friend. Always a pleasure.

Yeah, it is such a pleasure. I love talking to you. Oh, my God. I can see you on that show, but you're married. We shouldn't even be talking about that. Well, next lifetime. No, just kidding. Just kidding.

Next lifetime. Don't manifest it unless you want to. I can help you. Believe me, I ain't manifested nothing when it comes to my marriage. Technically we just did, didn't we? We spoke it to existence. Oh, really? Say that and we get all nervous.

That is part of the manifesting. Really? Well, we have to talk about that next time. You got to speak it into existence, girlfriend. I do not manifest. Well, I'm speaking into existence never ever to get separated or divorce again. And for you, my friend, whatever it is that you want next, I want for you. I'm going to be single forever.

I'm single forever. I love single life too much. I love that you love it. All right, guys. So listen, lots of headlines this week. Crazy. And so, I mean, we hope that you like gossiping with us. Just gossip, though.

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