The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Cheryl Burke’s Pickleball Date with a “Bachelor”

Episode Date: June 28, 2025

Cheryl is catching up with her producer, filling her in on what happened when she attended a recent wedding solo, and the MEN (yes, more than one) that caught her attention! Then, Cheryl is in the hot seat when her producer tries to play matchmaker and set her up with an eligible bachelor who was recently on the pod!  Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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wanted me to pop on the mic because she said she had some fun news to tell me uh oh I hate surprises Heather I'm literally look all ears go hi Cheryl how's it going good it's been a while I know I know since we had our really really sad Valentine's Day episode

was that the last time that we did this together I mean I talked to you after that that's way clock since then but that's the last time the audience heard from us we were doing a really sad episode, I think, that a lot of people ended up listening to, a lot of single people. Yeah, I know that we weren't alone. We weren't alone.

You definitely were not alone. But I wanted to kind of catch up with you a little bit before we kind of dive into that, you know, little fun surprise that I said I wanted to talk to you about. But I wanted to kind of hear from you, and I know our listeners do too, about, like, what you've been up to lately? How have you been feeling? Obviously, you've been getting a lot of press and, like, you know, been talking to the press a lot about what's been going on in terms of online stuff that you've been receiving. But I kind of wanted to know overall, like, how is Cheryl doing? Did you also hear in the press that they asked me the big D question about dating? And I was like, no, we're not there yet. Well, we're going to dive into all of that, of course. But tell me, like, right now on this day, how is Cheryl doing?

Cheryl is a little, like, I'm just like, I feel like I'm being pulled a million different directions. I'm also working on another, which we haven't announced yet, but I'm working on another show and we're busy pitching that. But it's a whole different vibe, like I told you before we pressed record here. So, but it, what I've noticed, the pattern has been me having to grieve whatever or however. that may be my past. It is shoved in my face and I have to deal with it because I have no choice, right? Like, in order for me to move on. And a lot of what I just mentioned that I was doing has a lot to do with that. And I think will help me when it comes to my personal life as well. Yeah. I kind of just wanted to talk to you about that because obviously it's the summer, right?

Summer time is also... Hot girl summer. Hot girl summer, but also wedding season. season, right? And I know that you were just a part of your sister's wedding. And so I kind of wanted to know what that was like for you. As somebody you've talked about on this podcast that you went through and you had the big wedding yourself and the big wedding became an event for you and all of that. Now being on the other side of things and being a guest at a wedding and it's your sibling, what was that experience like for you? Did you have a date or were you solo? Kind of tell me a little

about that. Yeah, I had a few dates. I'm kidding. That doesn't even sound right coming out of my mouth. But okay, so a lot of things happened. One, I was a makeup artist. So I didn't have time to even do my own makeup, let alone, you know, I had to focus on my sister. Like, I was her makeup artist for that weekend, I would say, because it was rehearsal dinner and wedding. I didn't have, I was so, I brought all of Sephora with me. And I filled my car up to the roof. Literally was like a mobile beauty department store that was my actual car right driving from wherever i live to the bay area checked in took me two days to unpack literally just my oCD was in full effect so other than that and me thinking i had appendicitis um the morning of her wedding thinking i had to go straight

to the er it was all smooth it went great be real with me for a second though because i went through both of my sisters getting married. We've already talked about this that I've never been married or engaged. And, you know, one of those was a little tougher for me than the other. Really? Yeah, seeing my younger sister get married and part of family and, you know, my other sister have been married. And, you know, the kind of comments that I got at that wedding.

Oh, interesting. When is it going to be your turn? Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Like, these kinds of comments were said. said that to you and so i kind of just want to know like even though you were totally in it and being an active supportive member of your sister's you know thing like being there for the makeup was there ever any moments either the drive up or sitting there where you where it was emotional for you in a different way i think it was it's more of a personal thing with my sister and i and our we've gone through a lot

with each other and what was interesting so so to answer your question if you're trying to ask about like did it bring up my ex-husband or like that time together no actually not at all i was um really choosing to be present i put my phone away it was so emotional for the both of us because yes we do have an age gap i didn't get any you know crazy filipinos from my family come up to me and be like you know how are you feel like none of that happened what was I think the emotional side was just my sister like I think of my little sister as my daughter you know and I I don't want to talk more about it than what I am talking about but like you know this has been very emotional between us it's been in a roller coaster and you know like

anybody's relationship we evolve and some people do it together and some people don't and like when I tell you we were so close like we would go on like extravagant luxurious vacation when we were both single in the past. And then, you know, we all meet our other halves and stuff happens. And so, like, it was just beautiful to be able to be present. And my sister has said something when I was doing her. And my sister was so emotional. Like, literally, it was like, and as she should be, right?

It was her day. But it was a different type of emotion that I never actually felt. And since we were both single in France together, hopping around, you know? So it's like more of a family. internal thing than it was you know so sad that I'm not married still type thing I mean was there

any anxiety I mean I know I've felt this before having to go to a wedding alone you know having to sit at a table with people alone having to hit the dance floor with people that you maybe don't know that wasn't the experience you didn't have any anxiety

about being by yourself no actually at all now from cousin's wedding the first wedding i went to after like because it was my first wedding that i attended since my wedding yes definitely my sister no i knew everybody you know it was all of our friends and family but i there were a couple cute guys and there was this one single dude okay there was this one single guy what happened excuse me what happened taking me through the timeline so once i was done with my makeup artist duties i was able to actually look up for my makeup brushes and i see

other humans and so funny because strategically I'm pretty sure my sister and her husband put me next to this one dude who's single best friends with the groom and on paper like I actually did ask about this guy soon after I got divorced and I was like oh what's his deal because I always saw him whenever like he's gathering like he'd always bring a new chick and I was like his guy what's you know he's a year older than me or something like that and I was like what's his deal you know like does he have commitment issues like what's happening first when i mentioned him the response from um my sister's husband wasn't like very responsive so i was like oh maybe it's not maybe either they think i'm not good for him or whatever and now they kept like kind of saying so

like my sister goes you know i met my husband on uh raya like do you think you should and i was like no i don't think i should but you might convince me maybe later down the road who knows never say never but she's like and I said but how about your the you know your husband's friend and she goes yeah yeah I'm single do you think you're ready and I was like if I meet somebody authentically like that it's different right like it's different than having to go on a dating up I'm sorry but would that not be the cutest story ever like it would until until we met at my sister's wedding cute until something happened and it was such a turn off and I don't want to say it No, Cheryl, you have to tell me.

I can't, I can't, I can't, you can't air it. Oh, my God. Okay, you have to tell me later then. I will, but it was nothing to do with me. It had everything to do with his actions. And all I'm going to say is that I'm sober. Well, I can deduce, right? What happens at a wedding, you know, is people tend to.

I don't know. I don't know if this happens at a wedding. I hope it doesn't. Got it. Okay, something happened not at the wedding that turns you off. No, it happened at the wedding. At the dinner, at the freaking dinner reception. Okay.

We'll talk about it later. It's not my business to put it out there. Sure, but it wasn't, there wasn't a connection. No, there was. There was a connection until that happened. Okay, well, let me ask you this, Cheryl. First of all, I have already told me. I just gave you a hint when I'm sober.

I know. And I was about to say, Cheryl, I commend you on your sobriety. You know that. Thank you. And I think that that is also. For anybody that I know in life that is sober and in a partnership, it is something that I have had conversations about with people where I say, even if you don't have a problem or your partner doesn't have a problem,

but has chosen that style, you need to choose that lifestyle as well as being in a partnership with somebody. I'm not saying that he should have been so, like, I'm not saying that, but there's levels. I was going to say, was this a moment of indiscretion that we were at something? Or were you like, no, this is probably a lifestyle difference? It's a lifestyle, I asked. Yeah, it's a lifestyle difference. And if there were me 10 years ago, it would be a match.

100%. Yeah. And listen, kudos to you for recognizing that right up front. And who knows? It's a shame. but also maybe things change later on you know what i mean and then and then there's not there's another dude i'm not just it's not just one okay so talk about that what happened so all okay so on the during the rehearsal like the actual rehearsal at my parents best friend's home where

the wedding took place we were practicing these walk downs and i was originally paired with somebody and then i got switched and i was like oh rude um anyway so Cute, quiet. He was cute and quiet. And yeah, so I asked my sister, like, not obviously on her wedding day, but like, oh, no, she brought it up when I did her makeup on her wedding day that morning. And she's like, what do you think of so and so? And I was like, yeah. Like, I don't know. He seems really sweet. I don't freaking know. We literally were just walking elbow to elbow two seconds. I thought I was in a face plant. He saved my life. And that was it. And I said, but doesn't he have a. girl. I thought I saw him with a girl. She says, yeah, but they've been fighting. Supposedly, like, Nicole. Just because they're fighting on that day. I'm not going to be the, first of all, I'm no, I am not somebody's rebound. Okay. So he's going to have to show. But that's so funny. That's bringing up a memory of a wedding I went to as well. Somebody was like, they're on the outs, blah, blah, blah. Like somebody's having one argument. And it was no, it was like people went in,

like in on an argument at the wedding and they were like, yeah. they're on the outs and so anyways what i'm hearing and what i'm liking about this catch up Cheryl is that i'm open there's attraction sparking for you too yeah i'm not blind yeah but like literally Cheryl i think six months ago when we were talking you would be like hard pass like no way no way my eyes are down i am not when you yeah when you're talking dating apps or anybody in this business yes sure but i don't don't think I've heard you express like even when I was like, what about a guy at the grocery store? You're like, I get my groceries delivered. It's true. I would say the same damn thing

today. It's very true. But look, you went to a wedding. I had to go to a wedding. But there were two attractive men. Yes, you're right. Your orbit. So I think that this is a good sign. I think it's a good sign. But that's what I mean, just so you know, just so we are clear. This is what I mean by meeting somebody like that right like I don't go to weddings I don't I'm not a makeup artist nor do I ever that was so traumatizing I will never do it again but I that's how you meet people yeah no no no I agree I agree my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious oh wait a minute Sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well Dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon

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At this moment, I want to know what kind of guy you are open to attracting into your life. I'm not going to say the term looking for because we're not looking for. because we're not looking for anybody, but what kind of man are you interested in attracting to you at this time? What kind of... You're talking about like material? No. Valities, physical and personality-wise, what are you looking for? What is, what's getting your head to turn? You know how they say that you're attracted to your father or your dad? No, I don't believe in that sentiment. No, I definitely, especially if you've been abandoned by your father when you were, Yeah. No, I believe in it. Like, I tell you, every man I've dated seriously has been, has especially my ex-husband, identical to my father. Okay. But like, I was saying, talking to my therapist, she's like, can we start attracting taller men?

But it's so funny because the guy that I actually liked to have the girlfriend was also a shorthy, shoddy. Listen, short kings need the love to. Yeah, just put a couple platform heels in there and look good. I like that you're, but also listen, attraction. That is just, I'm not talking deep. Clearly right now, that is just straight up physical. Attraction is attraction. You know what I mean? For me, I might like make some people upset hearing this in the I do part two world.

I'm not really attracted to bald men. That's my thing. Okay. And I don't think that that is, I don't want to say a discriminate against bald men, but I don't, it's not what turns my head. Sorry. No, but what if you're stuck in a line during a wedding and you're doing, you know, I have to tell you, like, I did it lately, and I'm very proud of myself for this. It's not about, oh, what do you look like, then I'll talk to you. It's more like, let me, like, we're just naturally talking as two people who are being sat next to each other do, right?

Then, and then I'm like, oh, this is what you physically look like, you know? Because there's like, that's when I'm, then if the conversation is interesting enough, then that's when I'll take a double look, right? Yeah. I mean, listen, yeah, you can be as attracted. But what, I'm just saying, what if a baldy and you had such a deep conversation? I mean, sure. I mean, look, there's always adjacent Statham, right?

Joy Lawrence doesn't tickle your fickle? Not personally. But I was just today, but in the 90s, maybe. Yeah, but he wasn't bald then. Correct. I know. Now he's bald. I said, but maybe he would have tickled your pickle then.

There's always a Jason Statham who like is really rocking the bald look, right? And like that's a thing and that's hot. Of course there's exceptions to rules. It's always about kindness first. So you don't like, you don't like the bald that is being forced to be bald. I don't like receding hairline. I don't like, you know. You're real picky.

listen so am i i love a girl that knows what she wants personally i don't think that's picky i think that you know i think you talk to a man any day of the week and he's going to give you a laundry list of what turns his for a woman so yep for me being able to name one thing that i'm not interested in i really don't hear you sorry i do part two people if that like is offensive um i'm sure anybody that is dating somebody that is bald it's like that's great for you it's just personally not what yeah totally now never say never again what if your conversation is so sexy that all of a sudden you look up and or you did love is blind and he was bald who knows or i'm 55 and i'm still single and they're all bald you know what i mean like what's wrong with 55

and single i'm just adding years i want to know what you're this is a dual conversation okay because 100% you're not interviewing me this is not what we agreed to i am we're catching up i'm not in the market what why are you taken no your girl is way too damaged right now to be getting that's okay that doesn't mean we can't have the conversation sure i mean listen for me in my local area i've said this so many times i live by a whole foods that gets a lot of traction you don't Instacart. I do my Instacart. And it's by the beach. And the first time I went in there, I was shocked at how many men I saw at the grocery store. I don't think I'd ever seen that many men before at one grocery store. Like single young men? I don't know if it's single, but that amount of

men at the grocery store. I've never seen it before. And it's every time I go there, every time. Whoa. I should go to your grocery store if I ever go into one. Yeah, you should. But I'm just saying, like, I know that there's guys out there. It's right now, like, I'm coming across so many, right? When I'm out in the world, nothing is resonating with me right now. Are they flirting with you?

No, no, no. I'm not talking to anybody. No, are they? No, no. Literally, the light bulb is off. Like, my taxi can't light. is off and it is like do not come near me yeah i listen do i i i don't think i'm giving like rbf like everywhere i'm walking but it's just i know that i'm not putting out the signal that i'm

interested but you that is true no no that is very but that is very true by the way we're all energy so yes i was on that trains i can tell right now in our conversation that you're putting out the signal you're putting out the energy right now yep yeah i mean if it happens it happens now this is what i don't want are we ready tell me what you do want i want to be positive no yeah no no no because i don't know necessarily i i can tell you what i don't want i don't think i can tell you what i want okay sure like i think it's a mix now this is what i don't want because i i am i don't want anybody with the track record of cheating i think that's fair i don't know if i want somebody in the entertainment industry.

I'm leaning towards no. Okay. I'm going to say... No one's asking. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm going to say as somebody that knows you that I think that you don't need another entertainer. Yeah.

I think you still need somebody. Or a reality star. I don't need that. That's still entertainment. I think that you need someone entertainment adjacent. I could see you being with a talent agent. or a talent maybe yes yes yes or an entertainment attorney yes yes and even better that was my first and last date remember oh yeah yeah yeah um i'm just saying like that to me is it creates commonality

in a relationship but also i do believe the sentiment um a lot of times when you hear people say there can only be like one star in the relationship and i really do think that i do believe that you are the star when you're in a relationship with somebody that's that is not true well actually i wouldn't i wouldn't know stars can change yes they do get and have different times but you right now in this chapter of your life you are the star and you if if you were to get into a partnership with somebody tomorrow they would need to be supportive of that star right now in this chapter yeah yeah because like it's exhausting if it's competitive you can't be in competition with your partner for the spotlight that will never work that's why they say opposites attract in that sense and this is why i gravitated towards the quiet guy at the wedding i fully get that gerald and i will tell you why i have never been attracted to the alpha male i have it's so weird but never dated one always told people i am attracted to quiet confidence and i tend to like a more subdued energy um because i've dated the shot shots shots guy and the everybody party guy and

it's like i don't like that guy i don't like so funny that you say that because i actually initially i think i'm attracted to them i never end up with them one but two i have only started recently appreciating the quiet the only confidence by the way there's only one way and it's the quiet one. There really is because the loud confidence, not so I could fight anybody about it that's not confidence to me. I hear that. I agree with that. For me, I'm really mellow and real life. Yeah. Outside of work, I do not like to be in the mix. And so like a quiet energy is more what I tend to gravitoris to. Now, the problem with a quiet energy is they don't always make those first moves, right? Especially in the dating scene. It can be really hard sometimes for them to make the move.

And personally, I've had to, in anything I've been in that's been substantial, I've made those first moves. And what's wrong with that? Well, now in my reflective chapter that I'm in at this time, I'm wondering if I've ever been hoarded and I don't think I have. Interesting. It's really difficult because. So it's not, you mean on a deeper level like then

not necessarily a physical like I guess forded meaning like making plans going out like to dinner, him paying for it, him opening your door. No, that's happened. I'm talking about initial first moves.

I'm now in place Cheryl in my head where I'm looking back at everything in the rear view. mirror and I'm thinking, did that person actually ever want to be with me? They never initiated the early stages of the relationship. I did. Did I just somebody that was like open to it, but like not really in it? It changes like, Cheryl.

Every day for me is a new trauma. But I- Are you in therapy? Yes, yes, Cheryl, yes, yes. But I want to know, okay, so we know that you don't want an entertainer. We know that you... No, I never said that. I didn't say I don't want.

I said, I don't think I want, meaning like I keep going back and forth. Now, again, if he is in my zeitgeist and we do have great communication and we have great conversations and there's an attraction, I'm not going to be like, oh, sorry. Yeah. Can't do it. You know, like I'm just saying from what I, again, this is all on the surface stuff. Look, at the end of the day, I mean, this is why for me to be like, be like, it's tall, dark, brown hair, like, it's just so minuscule as to what I really, I really want a partner. I want somebody who balances, we can balance each other out, but we still stay as two

individuals that is so important to me and that someone, I need somebody that can also put me in my place sometimes because I can get, you know, a little like, whoa, overbearing sometimes. but not in a rude way in a way where it's quiet it's it's secure it doesn't make me feel abandoned it makes me feel like first of all nobody can make me feel anything right so i'm going to continue doing the work but like he needs to be so like stable and confident that in a way where it complements the work that i'm going to continue to do for the rest of my life and that's all i can say because it's so deep it goes deeper what about like financial stability at this Yeah, but that's all, again, that is just icing on, yes, yes, yes, all of it.

I think that to me, Cheryl, as somebody who you've done. But that's not what's going to be like my very first conversation with the person, right? Like, either we're going to talk, we're either going to connect or we're not, like, whoever it is. And this is what I've also realized, no setting updates. Like, I can't, this is what makes me not act authentic and what I know for sure. It makes the other person act weird, like, for sure. And it's like, if we meet in a group setting, like, this is why this wedding thing happened so great. Like it was, I mean, in my head, but it was just like no pressure.

There was no freaking pressure. We were there doing the same activities, but we were just there supporting the people we love, right? Like, and there wasn't the weird, let's go to Pache and I'm going to end up not knowing what to order and then I'm going to order what you have. Like, there's none of that. It's just being weird. That's weird. Yeah. No, no, no.

You kind of got my wheels turning, though, now, Cheryl. I want to know, just out of curiosity, have you ever, like, played pickleball or? My mom does. Your mom does. Okay. She's not single. Have you ever, outside of dance,

have you ever done, like, anything kind of athletic or sports-y-like, outside of dance? You realize that I was, like, the MVP of my basketball team, right? Oh, wait, what? No, I did not know this about you. I'm just very, react. My mom put me in everything, girl. I went to tennis, Stanford tennis camp every freaking summer. Like, I was, I was going to be a professional tennis player. Cheryl, so you can play tennis, which means- I know what pickleball is. I know.

I want to know, though, what I think is kind of cute about pickleball is it falls- cute. You don't understand. I get competitive. We're trying to win. Okay, I love that. But what I think as a non-athlet, which is kind of cute about pickleball, is it falls into that tennis category of like the themed outfit attire like that whole part of it you don't care about us and somebody who likes makeup and wears cute outfits and does cute videos that is not something you like about i will i do i do now but back then i was like i'm gonna be serena williams no we're talking now we're talking about the present day if you were to come okay so here i'm gonna just i'm just gonna rip the band okay okay this is this the big up

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What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York state number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs.

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So we thought, okay, Cheryl's going to be there. who else from some of the, you know, other fun kind of podcast that we do are going to be there. And then I had this really great idea because we had this really amazing guy on I Do Part 2 a couple weeks ago. And I'm going to just say there are some like cute like little similarities that I'm noticing. First of all, first and foremost. How tall is he? I actually don't know that off my head. But I will tell you this. If you were to guess.

What I really like about him and the possibility of you two getting along. Like becoming friends. I said getting along. I didn't say anything else. Like friends first. He talked about doing the work. And I know that that's important to you and has been your journey is about being open talking about doing the work. So that to me, so he is divorced.

and um kids he does have two kids um hold on i'm gonna text you his instagram don't worry i already did it you're following by the way p s we're following each other what is sarah i love it you're stupid surprise you and your surprise maybe i should have gone with it because i couldn't anymore because i was like this is wait don't we're following each other already wait i love this so obviously listeners we are talking about j p rosenbaum who was recently on the podcast. If you didn't listen to that episode, definitely go back. I already had a therapy session about him, okay?

But what I like about him, Cheryl, and the possibility of there being a nice, you know, commonality between you two is one about how much growth he talked about on the pod about after his divorce and what that's been like for him personally, but also in his co-parenting relationship I thought was really, really cool. And then second of all, I don't know, I don't know if you saw. He's been making headlines in this last week with his ex-wife, Ashley, because they just went on a really amazing family vacation with your kids. And it was just the two of them. It looked like with their kids. And they were like posting and sharing about it. And it was just like really cool to see two parents that, I mean, you and

I are both products of like, you know, divorce and stuff. Like, and we know what that can be like growing up as kids. But we went on family vacations, though. You did. I did not. Well, we went to go visit my father at a strip club's vacation. So I don't know how much that would be considered as a vacation. Family friendly or like a vacation. Definitely not Disneyland. I don't have those kinds of memories with my parents. And I think that that's something that's really respectable. Yes. And I think, it's also a really good testament of being able to check the ego, right? Because that's a huge part is like he talked about how his ex-wife is already in a relationship. And at first, she is. Oh, she's been. Yeah, because they've been divorced for like over four years now. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's been a minute. He also

said some really nice and respectable things about his wife's, you know, new partner. And because that person is around his kids and stuff like that. You know, he's really, really even keeled. So I really like that first and foremost. Even keeled. How do you know? Just because I think a man that is able to openly talk about

that experience and have humility and grace when talking about their ex I think speaks volumes. That's what I mean. It didn't sound contagious. It didn't sound angry. It didn't sound dismissive. It sounded really nice. Mature and yes. And like somebody, like he

said that's done work you know so yes great yeah and the fact that he has kids obviously is very it's good that that happens you don't want people you know i've been witness i witness to people fetching each other when kids are around and it's not necessarily the best environment so you guys are following each other well yeah because we've had this discussion um hey hey i do part two folks this is no surprise i can't do surprises you know that but anyway since he mentioned his name and since I got that lovely group text of course don't you know who you're talking to i might as well be a private investigator i mean i love that but like when we look at his instagram like what do we haven't looked at it yet you i just started i just pressed the follow

button that doesn't mean i'm scrolling can you look at it right now while you're on here with me i can't really focus i'm so bad at this okay fine as long as i can i just want to know what your overall glance. Wait, hold on. What do you want me to look at specifically? Just look at his page and like, what do you think? Oh, you mean the aesthetic? I can't do aesthetics.

Not the aesthetic because his aesthetic is being- I love that he's Jewish. I'm Jewish, you know that, right? I don't, no. I'm 54% or no, sorry, 53% Ashkenazi. Didn't know that. My father lied to me this whole time. Okay.

Rest and peace. My Jewish father. Do you love the fact that he's like, look, he's on a boat? Like, he lives in Miami, okay? So, well, no, if there's a connection, the moment I shake this means hand, okay? This is just all here. This is all great, but great. You know, I don't want someone to judge me off my happy Instagram either.

Like, this is not the real me, but you see on my Instagram. Okay. My God, he looks like my dad. He just looks like my father a little bit. He looks a little bit like my dad. I don't know what to say other than I clearly still have daddy issues. Jesus. Jesus.

Yeah, he looks like my father. He really does. look like my dad here. I'm not joking, not even a little bit. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Okay. That doesn't mean, that means if anything, she's probably got a chance. I can't do that whole Instagram thing. It really is just so, it's like small talk. It's nasty. Let me say this. Clearly by looking at the Instagram, right? The Instagram. We know that he's a dad. We know that he's a dad, Jewish. It looks like my daddy. So right off, right off the rip from that, have you ever dated a single dad?

Is that something that, you know, have you ever dreamed of or thought of yourself being a stepmom? By the way, kids, I love that he has kids. Like, that has nothing to do with anything. I mean, honestly, it's, yeah, no, I don't, I always said that it would be great to have somebody who has already had the kids. Because then I won't have the pressure of trying to have one or whatever it is, you know. yeah okay cool so it's not a turn off i like that nothing has been a turn off yet cool i like that yet like how optimistic i am so what i'm what we're scheming no we're not doing anything you're just don't live it get back down to earth okay this is just two people

that are single that you think would be a good match that doesn't mean it is we're having this fun pickleball event in town oh no and there's going to be a lot of other people there a lot of other people like was this guy at the bat the bat i don't watch the bachelor was he a bachelor so he won the bachelorette so he wasn't the bachelor no so he went on ashley's season he got it he married her and they what season was that oh my gosh like five or something wow like years ago like 2011 2012 or even before that it's like what does he do now so he's a real estate developer in Miami. Interesting.

He lives in Miami? Yeah. So he didn't stick into the reality TV world. I like that. I like it. I like it. He was a one and done kind of guy. I also love that he lives on the opposite side of the country of me.

I also, I kind of like that he's like in a beach station and it's like, you know, I'm not getting ahead of myself, but I'm just saying, you might be a little bit. No, I'm just saying that I think you should come to Tahoe. You should come to this pickleball event. Yes. If I'm available, yes. And it's just a group thing. And I also, now that you told me you are basically a tennis star, I feel like you need to

We're not announcing this. Do you understand I was in seventh grade? Like, don't you dare. No, I'm just saying I feel like it's time to wear a cute outfit. It's summertime. and you're going to show me what's up tons i don't play tennis i don't play pickleball but anyways it's got a shipment from zara it's in it's in it arrived we got to open the box i'll leave you i'll leave you with this if anything that i feel like you and i have kind of learned in this last year

is maybe to be a little bit more like our friend kelly ben simone i love kelly and just have fun but wait hold on i just need to ask well i mean we'll ask her but what what What's the status of her and her dating life? I think she's just, you know, having fun. A lot of these guys, and she'll say this too, a lot of these guys have either dated somebody that she knows or, you know, somebody that she was on TV with. And it's like, I understand the pool gets really small

when you get to be a certain age. That's another thing. But, you know, she's gorgeous. And she doesn't need to just be dating guys in New York. York she could broaden the scope and like not be dating people that dated her co-stars and does she know that though maybe it's all in her you know maybe you can tell her that when you guys talk i will i do i do tell her yeah i just think i'll leave you with that let's just maybe take a play you know out of kelly ben simone's book and just have a little fun and go to this pickleball event so i just love

catching up with you today Cheryl this was so fun i loved hearing just about that thing that are getting your attention now because I just think like six months ago, you weren't talking like this. So I just like, I like this conversation today. Well, thank you. And you know what? Ditto. And for sure, we're going to take a play out of development or Kelly Ben Simmons's playbook and just see what happens because you never know. And of course, we're going to keep you guys posted on the pickleball event. My mom's going to be so proud. Okay. So if you're ready to date again, maybe you are maybe you're not and you're just not exactly sure where to start like myself call us or email us we're here to guide you all the info is in the show notes follow us on socials make

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