The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Colton's Finale Part 1 with Tayshia, Becca & Garrett

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

We started Colton's season with Becca & Garrett, and now they're back to help Ben and Ashley break down the dramatic finale.  We hear their opinion on what is going on in Colton's head, and we might not even get a "final rose" this season! But all eyes are on our guest of honor, Tayshia. After a critique of her bungee jumping form, we ask her what really happened with Colton in the fantasy suite. And we find out if she knew Cassie had broken up with him when he told her that he picked Cassie! Plus, we check in with Dean and get his take on what could happen this summer in Paradise, and if he has any advice for the new batch of contestants.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. It sure is. And it's the end of the season. It's been a mess. massive season for Colton. We've got a really big podcast. Ashley, you ready for our guest? Okay, so we have Becca and

Garrett here back again. They started out the season with us in Park City and now they're ending the season with us. Well, technically the ending of the season is tomorrow, but you know what I mean? They're here last week and it's so mind-boggling that it's been an entire season. We've come full

circle. Guys, it's been 11 weeks since we saw you. It's crazy. Time flies when you're having fun, Apparently, I mean, I had fun. You haven't aged a bit. Actually, I have. I'm 30 now. Are you really?

I'm 30 in two weeks, Garrett. And I'm 31 now. Wow. So to start this season out with Almost Famous Podcasts, we had Easton travel all the way from Los Angeles to Park City to set up a mobile studio, which we've done a couple times this season. We brought in Becca and Garrett and Ashley and I were already there for the watch party. And we pulled off a great episode. in Park City.

I thought it was so much fun. It was definitely one of my favorites. But now we're at the end. And I have to tease this, Ashley. This is big for us. We have Tasha in the building tonight as well. From Colton season of The Bachelor. She'll be coming up in about 20 minutes.

I can't believe that our show is like popular enough to have like one of the biggest stars from the season on it. The second basically she gets off stage at after the final rose. Tonight was considered after the final rose. Sort of, kind of, right? Part one. There wasn't really part one. Is there really going to be a final rose? That's my question.

I don't know. I'm on it. I know I'm back. I'm back tomorrow night for another show. Really? Oh, yeah. So I guess there is. You're on tomorrow live.

I'm on tomorrow live. So I guess there's another final rose. Yeah, there's another final rose live taping. But is there going to be like a rose presentation at the end of all of this? Well, let's ask our guest. Becca and Garrett. You were there tonight. Yes.

Garrett, famously, I think this would be famous. sat up on the panel. And I don't know if you saw this actually. And this guy, I'm telling you, he is salt of the earth. And so I feel like I want to pick on him because he's so lovable. But he's sitting up there and his belly button is popping through his shirt all night. Oh, yeah. I'm sitting right across him.

It's still popping out. Yeah. So make sure you go back. If you're listening, make sure you go back and watch it. Garrett has a very beautiful belly button. It looks very, like, clean shaven. It's very clean. Yeah.

Because I got a, I had hernia surgery. Oh. Well, now I feel weird. No, no. I got an awesome scar under the belly button and I'm like, hey, why can't I just show it off on live TV? It was finally his moment. He's so proud of this.

That's hilarious. What Jason said tonight really resonated with me when he was like, sometimes you just have to chase someone. You just have to just kind of do everything you possibly can to get the person. And if at the end of all that,

that doesn't work out. That's one thing. But if you leave it with any what ifs. like what if I tried that? What if I did that? Then you're just going to be wondering about it for the rest of your life. So it's best, I think, in the situation that Colton does go back to Cassie and kind of just begs for more time with her. So what happened? I mean, Beck and Garrett, as we brought up and as Ashley just brought up, we don't know what happens next. So let's assume that he goes back to Cassie, right? We kind of ended episodes assuming that he goes back to Cassie. What does this look

like is there a final Rosamar night? Is there an engagement? Is, are they engaged now? Like, what do you both think happens? I, well, let me first start by saying I agree with Jason. There's not even in a relationship, but in other things in life, you have to at points, exhaust yourself to get an answer because like you said, Ashley, like Jason said, you're always going to have the what if. So if you don't get to that point, you're still going to have regret. So I think in Colton's case, like he of course loves this girl. He wants to go after. her he wants to do all he can to make it work and and if it's a no at the end of it we'll find out tomorrow um then at least he has an answer because he like i i can kind of put myself in his shoes

to be like god like what if i didn't try that what if i didn't put all of my effort into this um i think just from what i saw play out so far um it a relationship is a two road street and so you both have to be on the same page and communicate well to figure out what the next step is, whether it's to break up, whether it's to keep going. And so from what I saw, I feel like it's kind of leaning towards not the best outcome for Colton. But again, I can't fault him for trying. And it just is kind of up to both of them. I think it's up to Cassie to be articulate and to be able to explain why, if she wants to break up,

why she wants to do that, because I think it left a lot of viewers wondering. And then I think it's up to him to accept that and move on and be okay with. that or you know yeah as far as what we've seen over the past couple weeks i think it has she's just thought that into him like written over everything yeah but it's just like the last thing i can say because after in paradise jared wasn't into me at all and if i didn't choose to befriend him and to grow our relationship that way after the show who knows where we'd be today right it's such interesting point. I mean, Gary, you know Colton. Yeah. And we're going to bring in Tasia later on the podcast to talk some about this

and just what she knows about Colton, where she thinks this ends up, and how maybe Cassie could have handled this better, how she handles it best from here on out. But Gary, you know Colton, how do you think he responds? He's just been, his heart's been ripped out. Kind of feels like it's been ripped out, stomped on, and then ripped out again. And he's going, my only option is to go after this girl. Yeah. What do you think how What happens next? How do you think Colton handles this? And how would you have handled this? It's a tough situation, I think, because obviously on the show, you don't get to have friends or family or the people that you normally consult. So you've got to think about it on your own and really soak it all in and really just follow your heart and go after what you really want and what you think would be best.

but like Becca was saying, it's a two-way road and you've got to find like a 50-50. I get that he totally wants her, but if she doesn't feel the same way, then I don't know. I really don't know how that works out for me because, like I told Becca when we were on the show, if I wasn't into her and she was into me I would have to end that relationship and not have her continue to chase after me and it was like the same thing

where if I'm into Becca but she's not into me I don't want to just continue to keep chasing and chasing after something that she's not going to feel the same about with me does it not feel a little unique this season because Colton has been broken up with so many times. I mean, it is, and does it not feel unique because he had been warned by some of the women that had either broken up with him

or had he had asked to go home that, hey, some people aren't here for the same reason you are. And then that prediction comes true. And so we're all sitting there going, you know, Cassie hasn't had an easy week. She's been, the media's blown up around her. You know, there's a ton of criticism. You know, I don't think any of that's ever deserved. But I do get it. it. Fans of the show are going to criticize how you handle yourself on the show. And so if she's been being criticized on the show for not being ready and then that comes, becomes true, all the viewers are going to go, wait, it's been right in front of your face the whole time, right? You've been warned about this over and over again. These women have left and told you, like, the person

you love is not here for the same reason you are. And then it happens, like, how are we supposed to as viewers? And I want all of you to respond here because we all been a part of show. How are we supposed to kind of forgive and forget if they do get back together? Like, doesn't just just feel confusing at this point? Yes. And I think what I always try to keep in mind is what we as viewers are watching is two hours every Monday night. There's so much more that goes into filming and conversations and time with the person that we don't get to see. And you know, everyone judged me or the guys on my season based upon one little thing that they said or some action that's

they did. And it's like there's so much more to that. And so hopefully, because I do wish the best for Colton and Cassie and whatever happens, like hopefully they on the show had more conversations than just what were privy to seeing during this, you know, this awkward, weird, crazy breakup on the TV show. But that being said, too, I think it comes down to communication. And so, of course, Colin was being warned from multiple people about some of the girls not being ready. It's also up to the girls to if they aren't ready, which I think Cassie did to a certain extent. She was saying, I'm not ready to give him what he wants. If he wants an engagement, I don't think I can get there. So I will say, like, at least she acknowledged that and not took herself out

of the setting per se, but at least said, like, I'm not going to keep going along with this and just do it for the show. I just wish there was more context to what we did see play out, like more reasoning of why she was leaving other than just, you know, I don't know, I don't know. And that's kind of what I felt like I was hearing was a lot of I don't know is. But if you don't know, that's okay to not always have the answers. But for at least Colton's sake, and just for me as a viewer, like, I want to be able to understand more why this is happening. I think that Cassie naively thought that if she were to break up with Colton, that he was going to end up with Tasha or Hannah G. like I really just think that that was kind of like her way of being like it's not me but go enjoy one of the other two it's going to be fine for you so I think if she finds out in which she will that he dumps Tasia so sorry that I'm saying this in front of you and and Hannah G maybe she'll be like okay wow this is like he's a lot more serious about me than I ever thought because it is hard to gauge when you know that there's solar people involved it's like to a certain extent you have feelings for all three people and

at that point and I think us being on the show realize that like we're not idiots we realize that we're not the only one and done person and so you have to keep that in the back of your mind and I and I think maybe she just didn't fully grasp the overall feeling and enormity of his emotions for her the the headlines this week are saying that you know a lot of myself and others included are just slamming Cassie and and I hate that those are the headlines but they actually catch people's attention. And that's not what I mean by this. I think that it could have been handled so much better. I thought the breakup was confusing at best. And I think as a viewer right now, I sit there and I listen to or watch this show and I still can't quite fully process

what's happening. Like, I still don't get it. I don't know if it's, it's just not a clear storytelling by the show in general, but there's something missing. I'm watching this breakup happen. And all I can say is either Cassie is really struggling to communicate that she wants to break up with Colton or she really still loves him and she's just not knowing how to express it or she's scared and if that's the case I hope on this next episode we see that play out because when I watch the breakup it's so flippy floppy like there's I love you this is the best day ever goodbye I still love you and it's like what do you love him do you not are you into this are you not and then you see tonight's episode and you see him torn apart and feeling as you saw

talking to Chris Harrison which I think is is a huge sign is feeling like He knows something more. He knows Cassie's still into him. Where when I watch a show, I was like, that girl's not into you at all. Okay, so that's what was such a surprise to me when he's talking to Harrison. And he goes, I think she loves me. I think she's scared.

It's like, really? I'm thinking, like, we must. He's either blind and seeing what he wants to see or we're not seeing a lot. Yeah, because the thing that confused me was a lot of viewers think that at the end of it, you have to get engaged and you have to be engaged. and she clearly made it she clearly made her point up that she wasn't ready to get engaged and then Colton says we don't have to get engaged I just choose you and I want to be with you kind of thing but then she just kept saying I don't know I don't know I don't know if it's

going to work out how many times did she say I'm confused so that's like to your guys's point it's like is she breaking up with him or is she want to stay with him I mean Becky you know and you've gotten to know him pretty well is he blinded to this is are we not seeing it all I mean, because of your time with him and because of the kind of the details of his life that you know, do you believe he's blinded and she doesn't really like him? Or do you believe he's actually reading the situation correct and she does still care? Oh, God. This is a hard question, Ben.

I would say, I think it's half and half. I will say, like, Colton, he came on this season hoping for an engagement. you know that's you come on the season hoping to find your partner somebody that you can share your life with and i think just because of all of his breakups you know mine with him included he kept saying like i want somebody who feels the same way that i do like i want to feel like i'm good enough for somebody so he went into this like all in sorry everyone balls deep like ready to do this and hopefully find a wife and um i think that freaked cassie out a little bit because she I do think that she cares about him from what I've seen to a lesser extent.

But because of that, I think she thought, like, okay, he wants an engagement. He wants a wife. And knowing how I was in his position, you know, you give toasts throughout the season. You give speeches to the group of guys every week and at every row ceremony. And you kind of project like what you're hoping for, what you've learned from that week. And for me, at one point, I said, like, I said, like, I said. see my partner. I see my husband in this group of guys. And I remember leaving that being like, oh, that's like a very bold statement, like to say I see my husband in this group of guys,

but I felt it and I meant it. And I noticed throughout the season, Colton had said that too. So he, of course, is like, again, all in, like, ready to do this, ready to find someone, ready to get down on one knee. I just think the timing scares Cassie. And I think after what her dad had said of like, if you, if you aren't ready to commit 100% to somebody, then like, what are you doing? And I think for him and her, they both thought, okay, it has to add in an engagement. That's what Colton has been talking about. That's what he's been wanting this entire time. So if you can't give that to him, then remove yourself so he can find that.

But that's weird because that's like her, that Cassie thinks that an engagement is more important than being with the person that he actually loves. Like, isn't that weird of her to think? Yeah. She should be thinking like, oh, if he loves me enough, he'll be okay with not getting engaged. And we'll make it work in whatever way. Yeah. And like throughout my season at one point, I even said, I think a couple times, like, you know, I am falling for a couple guys here. If I'm not ready to get engaged, that's fine. Like if I can just end up with the person that I choose and that they choose me and we can end up together. And, you know, if an engagement comes down the road, that's great. And I think that's at this point now with Cassie. That's what he's saying. Like if I choose you and you choose me, let's do this together. We don't have to get engaged. And I think I think it's just a miscommunication. and I and I don't know if that's something that they had talked about at any point or if she just assumed like I mean it's hard because there's so much going on on every day and there's so much you know fodder going around you that I'm not articulating this very well at all but I don't think he's blind I think he realizes it but I think he's kind of turning his cheek to say you know we'll get there we'll get there I'm willing to do what it takes if you're willing to say if you're willing to say say you want me to like let's do this like so i and i've never met her and so that's why it's

really hard to say me of this because i haven't had a conversation with her i don't know her how she is or how she acts so i feel like i'm not the best person to be asking about this yeah so we do have somebody that's a little bit better to ask about it uh we're going to take a break bring on tasha garret beck can you here around for a few minutes with tasha oh that'd be awesome Hey, before we get to Tasia, this season's almost over. We've had a blast. I feel like we've done a decent job, Ash, of not talking about the virginity topic, right? I mean, we haven't talked about a ton a little bit.

It's important to talk about at times, but I feel like we've stayed away from it. But in memory of this season, we have to make one more virgin joke. All right, go for it. I don't know who Colton's sleeping with these days. I don't know if he's sleeping with anybody, but he is. I hope he's sleeping on a sleep number mattress. Actually, as you know, I've been sleeping on a sleep number of bed for years now. Actually, I have had a sleep number bed since college.

What kind of hoity-toity are you? Oh, yeah, I haven't told you this story. No. Let me tell you the story real quick. So my grandfather had Parkinson's. He's six foot five. He's passed away last year. But because of the Parkinson's, it's important that, you know, he rolls around a lot at night.

And so to get a sleep number of bed, there's two separate settings you can have so that one site could be firmer for him. and then at the time my grandma could be on the other side and it's big and it's wide. Well, you know, Parkinson's progressed a place where he no longer could sleep in the same bed and all those things. And so when that happened, guess what happened? They got a sleep number. No, they already had a sleep number. Mr.

grandson, me got their sleep number. I'm not mad about it. No way, really. And I know why they got a sleep number because it is so comfortable. The new sleep number is 360 smart bed helps everyone from parents to pro athletes improve their daily performance through proven quality sleep. I can speak to that. Like I said, I sleep on one.

You need to feel the difference, though. I'm telling you, Garrett, I know that you're a big sleeper. You need your rest, right? You have crazy dreams, weird dreams. And Garrett, I'm telling you the sleep number bed is just for you. So many couples disagree on mattress firmness. Sleep number of 360 smart beds let you choose your ideal firmness on each size, so it's just right for the both of you.

Becca, do you like it firmer or softer than Garrett? Softer. Softer. What about you? It's like a little firmer? You thought it was dirty, didn't you? Yeah. I like it hard.

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this season's favorite contestant the beautiful the confident the one and only Tasha is in the building Tasha lean on up in there Can you hear me now

I can hear you Good Tasia welcome to the almost famous podcast Thank you for having me Ashley's a big fan of you I'm a big fan of you We've watched you tonight go through a break up this

Ashley did I do a podcast And I kind of feel like this late We do Newsflash Called in depth where we take people from the franchise or people in life in general who have gone through something difficult and we just want to hear their story. So this isn't an in-depth episode, but I hope that you welcome Becca Garrett, Ash and I, as fans of you, just to ask you some questions that we've been

wondering and get it from the source. Of course. My first is let's go back last week. If we can give a quick recap, I'll try to summarize your season in a few short notes, right? You had a great chemistry with Colton. You guys experienced some huge things. And one of my first notes that I've talked about with Ashley is I'm so glad I was not the bachelor this season because I hate jumping off of things and you jumped off and into things all the time. Are you kidding me? I'm afraid of heights. Really?

Oh, 100%. That's my biggest fear. So did you do that as a bonding thing? A bonding experience? I don't know what came over me quite honestly, but I was a daredevil and I lived for it. Can we do a trust fall after this with you? Please. That would be so great.

Yeah, we'll post on Instagram. We need that. A nice boomering. Yeah. Eastern, remember that, please. trust fall I mean when you're on these dates then

did you feel like you just had to do it to impress Colton or the show or you had any option I honestly I would never the one thing that got me I would have never bungee jump same okay yeah skydiving over bungee jumping for some reason

oh 100% yeah I agree and I did both of them and I would do skydiving any day bungee jumping I'm glad I did it done and done never happening again that being said yeah I kind of felt like I had to do it But at the same time, I came into this entire experience wanting to do the absolute most and have no regrets.

So I don't know what came over me. Honestly, I blacked out and I just jumped. As you can tell, I jumped the wrong way. I was going to ask you that. My first question was, it's been criticized on social media and on a show I did last week that your form on the bungee jumping was not okay. Like, it was very dangerous. Why? You jumped out?

I jumped, like, feet first. Pencil. She penciled. And then apparently I whipped. Did you whip your neck? You're supposed to, you know, like you dive into a pool? Yeah. You're supposed to dive like that.

Oh, I have no idea. She penciled over, like, feet first. I legitimately blacked out. Like, when I tell you, I blacked out, I don't even remember getting whipped. I don't remember anything. I just remember bouncing back up at the bottom being like, oh, my God. So cool. Great.

Do it again. When you jump like that, I just said, oh, no. Oh, yeah. She went like that. We were watching that, and he's like, oh, no. I was like, oh, gosh, that poor girl. It was not good. It was not good.

But your dates continued. Your chemistry with Colton kind of catalyzed to the point of the fantasy suites. And I think that's where we want to start is the fantasy suites. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. Oh, gosh. Ashley, we've talked about it last week. I got to start this by saying, and Beck and Garrett, please chime in here and ask any questions you want. We had some women from the show on last week, and they love you.

So I just want to say that is coming into this. We're big fans of you because these women sat down. and we're so supportive of you as a person. And that's why we have some questions because we're protective of you right now. Okay, that means a lot. Okay, so you were like so into Colton going into the Fantasy Suite.

You were talking a lot of Induendo. Induendo, is that how I'm saying it, right? Yeah. Okay. And then the doors open. You let the cameras in the next morning and I feel like your vibe was so off. Why?

Come on. Oh, she knows something. Something happens, whether you tell us or not. No, it's just, I feel, I felt that there are other relationships that probably were more progress than mine. Okay. Is that because he wasn't, like, making sexual moves? I mean, no. I feel really on the spot, right now. I know, I'm so sorry. Okay, let's give it a good laugh. Can I say, I will say with Fantasy Sweet Week, like, the editing, like, the, for me, they did it, too, where, like, I think my pajamas,

or like a towel or something It was on the floor I'm like, this is the worst. It was so bad. Yeah, it's just not no one needs to see that and I think like I'm just going to leave that

that just, yeah. I have a question. In the beginning of the date, like when the day started, could you tell something was already off? No.

I couldn't tell until actually we got into the fantasy suite. So. And was it his mood? Like was it a communication thing? I think. think he was just like his energy and his vibe okay and you could just tell when something's off do you think he was just extra nervous who's very nervous yeah um and i think he just didn't want to do

anything he was going to regret yeah in a way yeah just because he did also care about two other people and i don't know it was just like my womanly instinct yeah just kind of took it for what it was and i wasn't going to pressure him into anything which i kind of get like if i was in his position you know there are three women. I wouldn't want to cross the line with anyone, knowing that two other people's hearts were on the line. So I get it from that same point of being nervous, being like,

this is new territory. What do I do when I still have two other dates? But still, too, like there's no rulebook. It's not like, okay, you have to lose your virginity or you have to sleep with somebody or you have to stay up all night talking. Like, there's nothing. So how much does you talk?

Quite a bit. Like a couple hours? you sleep um honestly maybe like half hour an hour it happens every time i'm honestly i've never been in i've been in four fantasy suites now oh wow ben yeah yeah sorry wow i mean every one of them you don't sleep because there's so much build up and i'm gonna i need to i feel like i need to protect colton a little bit here because for me you know i went into my fantasy suit with kela who was third my season and I did it and I knew she wasn't the one and I was going to ask you are you upset that Colton still invited you into this fantasy suite but my my in my head I desired to spend

an evening with her so bad not sexually not physically because we had such a great relationship that I felt that if I sent her home before we spent that evening together we would be falling short of what we already had you feel like these are your girlfriends and boyfriends at the time even though you know at the end it's not going to be with them and you're like I can't imagine saying goodbye to you on a date with 200 people around watching with cameras, if I'm going to say goodbye to in my head, this was my rationale and it was, I don't know if it's wrong or right. I would love to hear what you think, Tasha, but my rationale was, I need a night with you just so I can look back on this relationship that means so much to me and know that we had this

time together. Like, I felt like that was the closure maybe we both needed. Do you, do you wish you would have invited you in? Does that rationale make sense or are you upset that it even happened? To be honest with you, um, I mean, I think Colton kind of said he already knew. He wanted to be with Cassie. And at this point, I didn't know that. If anything, because he didn't actually verbalize anything to me, it's just I just could read his body language. It made me more confused.

And it made me kind of wonder what was going on. But then I was like, but we just came back from the fantasy suites. Obviously, we just came off of hometowns, which were amazing. Maybe I was reading too into it. So I was just like, I'm just going to try to take it for what it is. and I'll see him at the rose ceremony. And I could see how you're trying to defend him as well, that it is nicer to have a little bit more time

rather than just saying bye at a rose ceremony when you do have a strong connection with somebody. So I understand that. But at the same time, it only hurt me more, I think. Which, and if I can chime in, I sent Jason home before our overnight because I at that point knew that my other two relationships were stronger. And I wanted the alone time just because it would would have been the first time away from cameras throughout the entire season.

Like it would have been our first conversation alone, like our first time alone. And I knew that like Jason is so funny and he's such a great guy. And it would have been a fine night. But I was like if I know at the end of this, you're not the one. I can't drag you through an entire night and just have feelings grow potentially more if we're not on the same page. And so for me, I made that decision to send him home because I would have wanted that. that same respect, I think, given to me. Like, had anyone else known they didn't want to progress relationship and other relationships

were stronger, I wouldn't have wanted to go through that entire night, knowing my heart was invested more than somebody else's. Right. You know what I think is really interesting? You know how he told Hannah G that he kind of thought it was going to be her? Yeah. He said, I think it was, I thought it was going to be you. And then he said that his date in Portugal with Cassie changed all of that.

So what if the dates really were a reverse? What if Hanna G did go first and did have an overnight? Do we think it could have changed anything? Could her date have gone that well that he may have at least been tossed up between Cassie and Hannajee? I do. You do. I think so. Yeah.

What do you think, Tasha? I mean, very much so. I mean, I think Hanna G needed her time with Colton. And that being said, it could have changed everything. I think they did have a strong connection just as being a girl, you know, amongst everyone else, you could see that during our dates and whatnot. So, yeah, I think it would have changed a lot. We are humans, right?

So there's a formula here that we have to recognize. And if you're a fan of the show, you've seen it year over, year over year, that the first date, the first overnight is going to be, just based on us being humans with short memories, forgettable by the last date, no matter if it was the best date or not. Your first date with somebody is going to be trumped on the show because you're going to spend another night with somebody else and that's going to be, that's going to get in your head and you're going to start processing that. And then the third time, that's going to be the thing that sticks with you, which ultimately

in real life or on the show is going to be the best or most important date in your mind. And so for you, Tasha, you were the first date. and I look back on this and I think of all of your time with Colton I think of that night that you spent with Colton and that the fact that you're saying you know yeah it was weird that he had already mentioned Cassie I think that's the part here that

I'm not processing that before your day even he already had felt like Cassie was the one and so knowing Colton now and spending time with him like is he confused at this point? Is he keeping his head together? Is he emotional

is he has he changed moods like are you seeing a mood shift in him as as more stress is bringing on like what kind of shift are you seeing in colton towards the end here towards the end of the fantasy suites yeah or just from your fantasy suite towards you know the last end of this week I guess on the show oh um yeah like I said I saw a shift as soon as the door closed to be in the fantasy suites um he just kind of started you think he was like putting on an act the entire time with you? No. No. But that you just think it was because he was like, oh man, I'm alone

with this girl now and I don't and I'm thinking of Cassie. Yeah, maybe so. Yeah. Tisha, I'm sorry. I know. It's so sad. I mean, it's, I didn't realize it then again. Okay. You know, it didn't make sense

until I saw last episode and obviously today. But, um, yeah, looking back, I think he just kind of already knew. so would it have been nice just to not have asked me to go to the fantasy suite? Yeah, you would have preferred it. You know?

Let's move on the breakup. I do have some criticism of Colton about the breakup. Okay. And we've been supportive of him all season, and I think he showed his heart. I think he's like any bachelor, bachelor, he's fallen short at times. I thought the breakup with you was really hard to watch because what we're hearing is you consoling him. Yeah.

And that, to me, did not feel right. And I'm interested for everybody sitting around the table, including you, Tasia. she watched that back or you remember that moment. Am I watching that incorrectly? Or is that you're, I mean, he's crying and you're going, it's okay.

No, it's not okay. Like, it's not. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's just, I know it was so tough for him.

Yeah, I think he was feeling a lot of guilt. Like, he felt so bad. He was, he was breaking up with a girl who loved him. And he was shaking so bad. The last thing I was,

I felt to do was just like yell at him or just like try to criticize him or even beg him, that I'm supposed to be the one that he's supposed to be fighting for. And honestly, I've been in a position before my last relationship where I understand how hard it is to be admitting truth and knowing you're wrong and I don't know, just having complete heartbreak. So my natural instinct was just to console him and just to be there as much as I could.

I don't know. I just felt bad. He's a good guy. Why are you looking at me like that? I mean, I'm looking at you like that because it is. I mean, you're obviously very sweet. And he is a good guy, right? Colton's harmless.

Like, there's one thing that we can all agree upon. Colton Underwood is absolutely harmless. Right? He's a big teddy. Yeah. Like, there's criticism, but being harmless doesn't mean that you're always going to do this correctly. And I still think it feels weird that he goes to you and breaks up with you. That he knows.

there's somebody else out there that you guys spent the evening in the fantasy suite. And it's big of you than to look at him and go, you know you've brought this pain on yourself in a sense. Like, this could have been a lot easier if we didn't spend the night together. Like, this could have been a lot easier if we didn't share in these memories for so long together. If you knew it was Cassie two weeks ago, this gets a lot easier for you if you don't bring me along the way. And instead, because of who you are, I think, he's bawling, shaking, and you're going, no, it's okay. No, you're right. I did have all those questions. And in a way, I did for quite some time, but I think I've moved on. And he, I hope he's happy and I hope he's with the person he wants to be with. And

I hope everything works out for him. So yeah, I did have a question as to why he brought me in the fantasy suites when he knew all along. I, I was wondering, you know, how Hannah G. was even going to feel about all that. It was just a lot. It was a lot. That whole day. I don't really like to we live it to be honest so when he went to your room yeah and he said it's cassie yeah did you know that cassie had broken up with him yeah no idea okay so you were like oh he just decided and he's letting me go nicely right now i honestly thought that they had gone to the fantasy suite maybe they had been intimate and he knew that she was the one and that was it and he made up his mind already i didn't know what to think so when did you find out that cassie had broke up with him

it was I don't know what I was getting sent home okay so it was while you were still like on set so when they're all searching for Colton in the middle of the night in the dark after the fence jump like a lost dog you have no idea this is happening like are you just asleep in your room no idea

you know what's so crazy is that night and maybe this is a little weird but I could not sleep and I just remember opening my prayer journal and I wrote prayer for Colton because I felt like something was off. Isn't that weird? Yeah. I don't know.

I just, you're very connected to him. It is. Becca, I'm interested to hear your thoughts through this whole thing. You've now got the notation a little bit. You know Colton well. You're the only one in the room that knows them both, you know, you probably know them both the most at this point, right? I'd say so.

I mean, what do you think of this whole thing? Because it is a little heart-wrenching. I, okay, this is something I always think about and, you know, Colton had the choice to wait to break up with you and Hannah G. at the next row ceremony or he had the choice to end things sooner. Just like I had the choice throughout the season if I wanted to send somebody home early or keep them through the roast ceremony, by all means, row ceremonies would be the easiest way to break up with somebody because you go into it and everyone standing there as strong have a connection as you can have with somebody like you go into it still being like there are multiple

people here i could potentially go home so in that setting to me it's so much easier um because you know you're breaking up with somebody but it's kind of in a formulated way per se um so to end things early you have to really think about it and i think that you know colton may or may not have done it in the best way, but he did it in the way that he felt was right for him. And I can't fault him on that because I guarantee going to your door early and going to Hannah G's door early was much harder, much more heart-wrenching and a lot more difficult for him to probably do, just being in his shoes knowing that, like, you know, I could show up a few days later and have all of these beautiful people standing in front of me, give out two

roses, say my goodbyes, knowing that I'm going to say goodbye to one or two. people. So it's tough and I do feel because like watching his breakup with not only Cassie last week, but with you and Hannah too, it obviously brings up memories of my breakup and just knowing like, you know, you really have to feel what's right and to hopefully be in tune enough with yourself to like make that choice and to cut things off early. So it's not easy and I know that he probably didn't do it in a way that most people appreciated watching.

or like I think that it left a lot of people wanting more or like knowing more or having more answers but he did hopefully what was right for him and I know that had not that could not have been easy on him no I agree and you're right at the rose ceremony I feel like you kind of mentally prepare that you could be going home yeah you have that like you have a little doubt in your mind whether you're like I'm confident in this relationship you still know like hey I'm going to be standing up next to two or three or more women knowing that a certain amount of us are going to be going home so you just like it just you know that so you kind of have a little bit of hesitation or doubt at some point being like this is the setting where somebody's going to say

goodbye yeah I think I was just really shocked and blindsided but to harp on what kind of what Garrett was saying earlier I'm glad he kind of told me when he knew he didn't want to pursue me anymore as opposed to having me continue to pursue him and him not or him know that he didn't want to be with me yeah i was going to say is it did you have like some sort of relief like i know initially the shock of it and you're blindsided and stuff like that and it sucks really bad but just to have the relief of doing like because you're putting all your effort and energy into the relationship and but to just know like it's hard on him to break up with you it sucks that you're going through it but at some point Did you feel like relief like I can move on?

I did everything that I could possibly do. I have no regrets. Yeah, I laid it all out there. I jumped out of a plane for that guy. I mean, come on. What more do you want me to do? You dove first on that bungee jump for that guy. I could have died.

But, you know, yeah, I laid it all out there. And I was happy with what I did. So. I have a question. Yeah. So when he knocked on your door that day to end, things. First of all, what were you thinking? Were you like, oh,

this is room service or who, like, did you think it would be him? I just want to know what was going through your mind. Yeah, I want to know this too. Are you a fan of the show? Because I think that when you see the Bachelor at your door during like top three week, it can only mean bad news. It's bad. The knocks on the doors

are always bad. Like they always, especially even the date cards when you hear those hard pounding knocks, your stomach kind of drops a little bit and you're like, oh, what's happening? Like, immediately. anxiety um but no i was actually looking at photos and shooting you know some b-roll and then the door someone knocked at the door and i was like making a joke of it i was like ha-ha but didn't that be so funny if it was colton and then like nobody was moving and so i was like oh my god

my god i got to open the door and i guarantee you it's him and it's not going to be good and i did and i just saw his face and i was just like all right yeah we could see it in your It is what it is. We got to pause for a second because we have some special call and guest. But first, let me talk about Blue Apron. Everybody out there listening, fans of the show, fans of the franchise, fans of the podcast, are you looking to switch up your cooking routine? Try Blue Apron, your secret to easy meal planning, make healthy habits delicious this spring

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He did it. He did Chippendales. And for the two weeks leading up to it, he didn't eat anything. Like we're talking like a thousand calories a day. He almost blacked out on stage. So eat your blue apron, okay? Yeah.

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because I've just watched so many years of Gossip Girl. I'm so excited that you're on an ABC show now. Are you a Bachelor fan? I am, and I'm especially a Bachelor fan now because I've been to the mansion. I've been, you know, in scenes with Chris, which is, like, huge. And I feel like now I'm, like, part of the family. Like, I know all the secrets, and I know. all the stuff and behind the scenes and

I feel like I don't know and also very much not disappointed that it's very true but you know I feel like I get it I'm part of this I'm part of this now you're part of bachelor's it's official well yes that's very cool

did you get to you went to the bachelor mansion in this episode right and you saw a wet driveway A wet driveway, just like it is on TV. We went in the hot tub. We sat on the steps in front of the front door, and Chris opens the door, and it's like, would you guys like to come in

and talk about your love lives? And the best thing is, like, the wishful fulfillment of our show is, like, we all have, like, families and past lives and all kinds of stuff that's been going on that kind of causes just sort of drama that whether or not we wanted it's there. but we're also single which is like a really fun element of our show

because there's like chances for love connections but of course we all are totally like screwed up in our own ways so we can't really see love when it's staring at us in the face or like when a relationship is good or bad like we can't really figure it out so my character is like in desperate need of some guidance and he's like the perfect person to be

breaking it down for me and happens to be doing it in the hot tub and kind of knows like just what to say to kind of get to me and make me understand sort of my shortcomings as far as love and what I can do to fix it. We got J.J. Philbin and Leighton Meester on the line. Leighton and JJ will also be at the live Bachelor finale tomorrow, Tuesday, on ABC. JJ, you're actually the creator of single parents that stars, you know, yourself and Leighton Meester. Is that correct?

Yes, co-creator with Liz Meriwether. amazing and and because of your desire and love for the bachelor franchise why did you choose then to create an episode so bachelor focused on a show that you help create and love so much because of the bachelor and our show is about single people trying to find love and you know trying to believe in a fairy tale trying to believe that it does exist and it just felt like a perfect way to like meld my two loves, which is single parents and also The Bachelor. I mean, getting Layton and Kimri, like, their characters to talk to Chris Harrison and to be like, you know, to express all of their doubts and frustrations. And we do think of him in our writer's room as a

real guru, as the person who, you know, you go to for counsel and for faith. And like, and so it really was like, it actually made sense for us story-wise, and it also really made us laugh. I mean, we're huge fans of the show. And selfishly, I just, I really wanted to go to the mansion, and I really wanted to meet Chris Harrison.

Marshall? Yeah, did you mean, Marshall, the owner of the Bachelor Mansion? No, I didn't. I mean, I definitely was in, like, negotiations with him and was, like, very aware, like, the time crunch and, like, things that were going on that, like, around our shoot dates, and was, like, on the edge of my seat. like so nervous that like it wasn't going to work out but when I found out that we were going to

be at the bachelor mansion with Chris on Valentine's Day I was like well I can die now this feels like after the fires that you shot the episode yeah it was only like a month ago that we saw the episode the fires had happened in uh you know the fall and I was aware that the fires were like encroaching upon the mansion but in some like divine intervention the had been spared, which felt really right to me. I was like, yes, that makes sense. And then when I got there, you know, it felt even more right because it did feel kind of like this hallowed ground. It had been pouring that whole day.

It continued to pour it with an all-night shoot, as Leighton was saying. And, you know, so the driveway was super wet. The place had like there was a mist that was coming up out of the hot tub. It felt very fairy taleist, which is what we were sort of going for. in the episode. It's funny. I think we just passed over something that's exciting. You literally rented Chris Harrison on Valentine's Day.

That's massive. That's everybody's dream. He was my date on Valentine's Day. It was a dream. I mean, my husband, like, stepped aside. He was like, I completely understand. Like, I would do the same thing. Unbelievable.

And then, I mean, so Chris opens up the door of the Bachelor Mansion. And he's obviously an actor at this. point, like, he's acting to play himself, which is unique. How was he as an actor? Of himself. Of himself. Did he nail it? Nailed it.

He nailed it. He was amazing. He had, like, huge monologues and was great. He was really good. Like, found, like, they were throwing alt at him, or he had to, like, you know, kind of improvise and say different, like, jokes, just kind of come up with stuff on the spot and say different, I don't know, variations of lines and was just killing it and, like, really making me laugh.

And actually, like, in kind of the emotional moments, I was really like, okay, so this is why you host The Bachelor. This is why you do this. Because, like, you're really, you're killing it. I felt like Chris, like, Chris had such, like, it was the same way that when he kind of, like, walks into a scene and the Bachelor in, I just immediately feel better. I'm like, whoever is stressed out right now is going to be less stressed out because Chris is here. Like, I felt that way in our episode. Like, he just has, like, he's so calm. he had such, like, command over what he was doing.

And I was like, he's in his home. Even when Colton jumped the fence, they said, Where's Chris? Where's Chris? Where's Chris? Yeah. No, when I saw, like, Colton jump the fence. I was like, somebody get him, somebody wake him up, find him, find Chris. You guys all obviously have a bit on the show because when you do see Chris Harrison come into a room, you normally think something bad's going to happen.

I feel better. I always feel like he's going to, like, make it all okay. Well, Chris told me that he thinks, that he thinks a latent sense that he was, like, freaking out. So she said, let's have 10 minutes. Yeah, so we had done, like, a little thing here and there, like, throughout the day, like, we had done, like, an interview, and we'd done a rehearsal, and maybe we shot, like, a little snippet of a scene. But then we had this massive scene that was starting, like, of course, in the middle of the night, like 2 a.m. And we were shooting in the dacuzzi, and it was freezing and raining outside, but somehow there was, like, a break in. the clouds. And I was like, we should, we should go through the lines, because I didn't know, you know, I didn't know that he was a friggin professional actor. I was like, damn, he, like,

he knew all his lines. And I think, really more for me. I was like, can we just run this? Because it's, like, three or four pages of dialogue. And he totally did, like, like a lot of monologues and stuff. And he was just really good and super connected and super funny. and so he really didn't need the rehearsal. I did more than he did. Layton and JJ, I've got to mention here. We're in studio right now in Los Angeles after the part one of the

after the final rose. We have Tasha, Becca, and Garrett in studio with us. Fans of the show, and I wonder, are you fans of them because you're fans of The Bachelor? I'm total fans of all you guys. I'm a little bit starstruck knowing that you're like on the other side of the line.

I'm a fan of you for saying that. This is Garrett. Really feeling lots of things. Like, it's a lot to have all five of you, like, on the line at once. Like, this is kind of big for me. I'm trying to play cool. And before we let me let you go, it is a funny part in the episode where a kid goes, what's a virgin? What would your answer be to that to a kid?

Either one of you. Oh, the virgin. I would say someone who hasn't found loved yet. Oh, that's good. That's cute. That's a really nice answer. Hey, if everybody out there listening, single parents on ABC, Wednesday night, it's a bachelor-themed episode with a guest appearance by the beloved. Chris Harrison.

Also, Leighton and JJ will be at the live bachelor finale tomorrow in the audience. Are you guys excited to be in the audience? Yeah, I can't wait. Super excited to my first row ceremony. I will be there as well. Make sure you come say hi. I'll be sitting somewhere around there all evening. Also, single parents airs on ABC.

Wednesday nights. Everybody listening. Tune in. Layton and JJ, thank you so much for joining the almost famous podcast. You got a great show, and I look forward to meeting you tomorrow night. Thank you so much.

Thank you guys. Bye. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thank you. All right, Tasha. We've got to get back. Let's get back to you.

We're going to get back. back to the grilling fest rate but not really i think you're going to light it up now i think i have some fun questions that we kind of like to wrap every show with were you a fan of the bachelor beforehand you know what i actually started watching ben's season okay and so yeah and you still chose to go on i know what the heck now wait a second there was some speculation in late august early september that ben could have been the bachelor you know yeah did how'd you feel about that Did you want it to be bad? I mean.

I love Ben's face. I'm not looking at him purposely right now. It's always a fun part of the podcast because it was fun when I was single for Ashley. It was actually kind of funny to put people in weird positions because for a while I did think about it. And it went, I mean, this year for the first time, I don't know if it would have been for sure me or not, but it was the first time I even considered it again. And there was a thousand reasons why I would have done it

and a thousand reasons why I didn't. But Tasha, I will say that watching you back this season seeing how you handled yourself and seeing how you handled the breakup and jumping out of bungeys, which I think was one of the, like I still am upset with you for that. It was one of the most stressful segments of this season

watching you jumping. You would have dumped you before the jump. I would have never done it. He would have finished the season then and there. Oh, you want to see me run? for like just try to make me bungee jump not happen not not even a good idea but you handed yourself with so much grace and so much poise thank you even up to the very end and i think that's why you know the women last week were so encouraging and supportive of you as a person so great job

you've made it you're done oh my god you're done okay well now that ben wasn't the bachelor and ben isn't going to be on paradise because he's a taken man right now who do you want to see in paradise from a past season that you think has a possibility of popping up you guys not going to lie i haven't even given this any thought really like you don't have a bachelor crush i mean let's think you've been watching for since ben's season let's talk let's talk to this with you let's take a second all right let's give me some names i think bet uh peter krause has been talking about you on either twitter or instagram said that he was not going to paradise no of course he's not but he just thought that you were super hot but but hey peter is

my neighbor in Minnesota and Wisconsin. So if you ever want to meet him. Okay. Let us know. I'm coming over for some blue apron guy. What about, what about, uh, I mean, Dean Ungler's not going. Blake Hortsman. No, don't cross him out.

We do. Yeah, yeah. Don't make up. Don't cross Dean out. He, he's definitely a possibility. Well, okay. Let's, what do you think, Tasha about Dean? Two days ago.

He likes to bungee jump, or not bunchy jump. Skydive. Skydive. He's certified. He's a what? Adrenaline junkie. Okay. Just because I did on the show doesn't mean I'm a junkie, but I mean, he's cute.

All right. He's cute. I'm not getting enough at you right now. No, me neither. He didn't hit the spot. Okay. Blake Hortzman. Blake.

Oh, she's into it. Okay. Yeah, he's cute. He is good guy, too. Did you meet him tonight? I did. Okay. I mean, and then there's a whole new crop.

I mean, I feel like if we're going to, let's wait a couple weeks here. Let's maybe bring some contestants potentially going on Paradise back. Let's rank what. potential guys that already exist in the Bachelor world that could be at Paradise. I mean, I'm going to put Dean and Blake up there very, very high. We're actually going to call Dean right now. All right. Let's call Dean right now.

Oh. And see if he'll get on Bachelor in Paradise. And if so, will he take Tasha on the date? Sounds like Dean is already on the line. Hey, Dean. Hi, you guys. Hey. So Tasha has, you know, bungee jumped. She's skydived at your skydiving place. The place, the Paris skydiving.

That she's familiar. She'll meet you down there. there, possibly, if you guys mutually seem to be into each other. Are you trying to set me up with Tasia right now? She's on the line. Oh, hey. Oh, my gosh. I know they move fast, don't they?

This is incredibly awkward. Just a little bit. We have zero confirmation first off if Tatea will even be in paradise. But we're just saying there is the potential, right? I mean, her time on Colton season is now done. She's done it well. She pursued love to the best. of everybody's ability.

She found somebody that she was hopeful for. And now, obviously, just like we do in this franchise, we start looking ahead right away. Moving on. And so I'm saying, Tasia, if you end up in paradise, Dean, is there a chance you would be there? I mean, it's funny because I'm literally watching Tachia just got dumped because I'm watching that. And at the reunion show, I was like, holy cow, she looked amazing. Oh, thank you. Oh, okay.

Dean, you didn't answer my question. well he thinks she looks amazing so the attraction is there Dean is there a chance you'll be in paradise I don't know Ben I think I have to sit down and have a conversation with you about that before I can really finalize any decision the group father of the franchise I need to sit down and talk to Father Ben a little bit I'm really nervous about Dean I love Dean so much

like I love this dude like my brother and I'm really nervous for Dean for one reason Tasha you don't and like I would set you up with him in a second and I would be so excited about that idea. But last week, we had another, a really great group of women on the podcast as well, and they sat in live, and all of them like Dean,

we know how what happens with Dean. Like, I'm nervous that this boy, this man, oh gosh. I have so many women going after him that we won't be able to protect him. Like, he's such a big-hearted man. He has so much love to give.

And I can't watch another black box of Dean. Yeah. And honestly, Those are all my girlfriends, and I don't know how I feel about going after another guy with all my girlfriends again. Tasia, you're on The Bachelors, yeah. Oh, my gosh, you guys. Okay, sorry about the stress, but Dean, I do want to ask you if Peter has made any comments about Tasia. Has Peter commented on, not that I know of?

Oh, okay, because I saw a Twitter and Instagram. I thought you maybe knew more. I don't think he watches the show, so I would be surprised. I don't know. I think also I forget his name now Dean we love you dearly

let's talk soon we sounds like we've got a lot to talk about Dean I will say What You texted me last week You said you wanted to catch up this week And I haven't heard from you since man

You ghosted me I got in today Dean Give it a break man Hey I love you dearly dude We'll talk to you very soon And anyways If you're interested There's a lot of women out there

Just saying You know what that Dean guy He seems pretty cute I think they could all probably do themselves the favor and stay as far away as possible. But I appreciate it. I love you guys so much. I love you so much. We love you so much. And we are going to move on with this interview with Tasha right now. Tasha, what was your favorite memory that didn't make air? Ooh, it didn't make air.

We actually, okay, so a little bit got shown. It was when we were getting chased by the bat in the mansion. Did you guys see that all? I remember the blupers. That was so great. Because they had the doors open all the time. Yeah, but there is like a bat problem. There is like multiple. Did you guys see the rat? What?

In the mansion? No. Is there a rat? Yeah, it was well fed too. Ew! I would have screamed. But no, there was bats and there was a ton of bees. And yeah, it was, I hate bats.

Like, I hate bats so much. Then I look at them on Instagram and I'm like, wait, they're actually kind of cute they look like little mice yeah they're or like when they're curled up they're like they're like squirrels with wings they're really not that bad but then there's something about them flying so like erratic yeah they can't see if there's like this just their lack of coordination that freaks me out i think well and bats have oftentimes have rabies yeah there's that we've got to stay away from that uh tasia yes uh i have two final questions for you please and uh and i'm going to ask one send it over to ashley and then i'm going to close you out here

the last one is one for you just kind of riff off of this one is and i do want to i don't want to just assume things and so i want you to have to answer it is there a chance that you go to paradise um never say never but i wouldn't you um honestly i've actually have never seen vagelin paradise so i don't really know what to expect but and it's all fresh i mean tonight is like yeah it's just a lot to think about i get it i just you know we'll throw out there because it's obviously, we're a podcast and we're talking about The Bachelor, so we have to ask. Do you guys think I should go? Yes.

I do. I don't think. It is beautiful there. I think it's. Do you guys, yeah, Beck and Garrett, do you think that she should go? I mean, I would say, if you're ready to find love or other friends, then yes. Okay. It's like a month long vacation.

Yeah. I mean, who doesn't want that? I say think about it, but then you'll have a hell of a time. Okay. I'm a big fan, and because I sit next to Ashley, every week for two years now, or a year and a half. I don't know how long, but it feels like... I'm a big fan of Paradise,

and Ashley can speak to this from experience, but I've seen friends from my season of the show find their wives and now have kids, and I've seen Ashley, my co-host, find her future husband and a friend of mine from the show. I've seen real love come out of Paradise. And so for me, I'm like, why would you not give it a shot? Honestly, like, it's such a fun vacation for a month

that also has led to so many incredible stories, of actual love which if we're all really being authentic and honest here isn't that why we do the show it's very true i mean i guess if my heart's in the right place at the time right now i just kind of have a little overwhelmed you got a few months yeah i'm actually kind of excited to just be single and be me for a little bit so yeah do you girl live it up thank you i will tasha what does your dad say slash think about colton today good question he just goes this guy, that's what my dad says. And he just, he thinks he's

awesome, but I mean, he still firmly believes that you don't microwave relationships and he says, I told you so, so, I mean, that's that. I loved that expression. So good. My dad said his favorite hometown was yours. Really? Yeah, he thought, he really thought your parents were

sweet and genuine. They're pretty cool, aren't they? Yes. They seem to be cool. I mean, they are. And I get my spunk from my dad and I'm as modest as my mom, so. Very nice. Hey, Tasha, I have one last final question that I need you to just riff on. Okay.

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Speaking of home decor, Jared and I, as you guys know, or at least Ben here knows, we are working with crate and barrel for our registry. And I just updated some items because, like I mentioned, the dogs are peeing on things.

I'm like, okay. I'm not okay with that. I don't like that. I'm like, got to get like a new, we've got to register for a new rug for that room. We got to register for some new pillows for that room. We have a dog trainer company this week. So, but I don't want like, you know, pee-soaked items in my house, especially when Jared

I are married, because we're married, I want our place to be the cutest place to unwind and relax, especially our bedroom with daylight savings time. I have been sleeping in a bit. Like this morning, I didn't realize that I slept until 11 and it kind of affected my workday. I had a lot to cram in. But getting one less hour of sleep wasn't fun. But getting to spend it in some really soft comforters and sheets and blankets from crate and barrel, that was pretty fun. Sheets with you and Jared is fun.

Well, today Jared left me. We're 36 hours apart right now. It's very sad. He's at a viewing party like in Palm Springs. I know. I have very bad separation anxiety. Anyway, let's go back to the bedding. It's super soft premium cotton and it makes me feel like I'm sleeping.

being on a cloud, Jared too, and our dog that likes to pee on the bed. And I'm very excited right now that when we wrap up this podcast, I'm going to go home, get back in those sheets, get in the bed, and then have to wake up at 6 a.m. for access. But whatever. At least I always have a place to look forward to get back into. And if you guys are engaged and you need a set of a registry, I highly suggest starting your crate and barrel registry. I'm talking to you, Garrett and Becca. Let's get it going.

Do it. Time to fire it up. Oh, they had the best wine glasses. We got these really big, they're really big ones. That's what Becca likes is the big ones. Oh, yes. And then I make popcorn. I feel like I am Olivia Pope with that glass.

Guys, how would I buy these glasses? You would go to www. www.cratenbarrel.com slash wedding dash registry. Start your crate and barrel registry today at www. at crate and barrel.com slash wedding dash registry. Unbelievable. Tasia, thank you so much for coming on a podcast. Thank you. Before you go, looking back on your time now, it is over.

And just for anybody out there listening, it's fresh. We just watch it tonight. But it's been a few months. You just saw a Colton this evening. This wasn't easy on you, but you held yourself, like I said earlier with Grace. And poise. how do you explain your experience on the show? Was it worth it?

And do you regret anything? I don't regret anything. I think I, like I said earlier, laid it all out there. And because of that, I think I grew tremendously. And I am now, what I used to call with some of my friends on the show is Tasha 2.0. I'm just doing everything in life bigger and better. I'm in a really good headspace. I am really striving to do the most with my life that I've been given.

I feel like I've gotten a second chance, and I'm just, I'm excited for everything. As far as my journey, it was hard. There was a lot of emotions. It was a roller coaster, but I'm so happy I went on the show, without a doubt. You mentioned a prayer journal. Yes. I'm going to assume that you're a woman of faith. We've talked about it tonight in the dressing room before.

going out on the live show is one of the common themes that we hear from people that go on the show and that come off the show is that they feel like they've lacked identity or purpose because you have this massive explosion of attention and love and support from fans and you have this relevance and celebrity that is unwarranted and also unexpected and it lasts a while you know we're doing this podcast for two years now and we love every second of it but ash and i talk about often as well as it's humbled we've been humbled over the years at how new groups come through new bachelors come through new groups of women and men come through and silly but surely you get pushed behind so for you as a woman of faith and a woman that

is brand new and fresh to this what purpose and what identity do you want to be what do you want to display moving forward with the platform that you've been given um honestly that god is everything. I would not have been able to overcome half the things I did if I didn't have my faith while I was on the show. I didn't have my parents. I only had me, myself, and God. So I prayed a lot. And I think that that's where my light and my joy came from. And yeah, so I hope that I have that I have that platform to show others that you have it deep within yourself as long as you have faith and you stay grounded. It's basically. Tasha?

Yes. You're beautiful. Thank you. Thanks for coming on the podcast. I appreciate you guys. Thank you for having me. Good job. Don't we have to do sermons with Ben?

A sermon series with Ben Higgins. I will say, Ben, you kind of remind me of my Uncle Gary, who is a pastor. Oh, no. I love Uncle Gary. I love Uncle Gary too. America loves Uncle Gary. Remember, like, Run DMC used to be in the tub and, like, do his own little, like. Yeah.

He would do it on his little blackberry. Yeah, in the bath. Oh, really? The bubbles. And he used to have, like, dear God. Oh, I do remember that. Yes, it was so good. Yes, I do remember that.

Maybe you should have like a little. That's going to be Ben with like one of those trays that go across the bathtub with like a glass of wine, bowl of popcorn from Crane Barrel. Time out, guys. Can you imagine if that was actually your career is I'm making a show by sitting in the suds in a bathtub and a warm bath, drinking wine, eating and just talking life? Sign me up. Honestly. Have it made. I haven't made.

I would not complain. Tasha, thank you. Thank you. Garrett and Becca. You're one of our favorites. We were on the dry here and I said it to them. And Ashley and I've talked about it after we left last time. You guys are salt of the earth.

Like you are what I would dream for Bachelor couples to be coming off this show. You have spread so much joy and love and you've been on this podcast twice this season. We only have one more episode left of Colton's season. And so this is kind of our conclusion. And I feel like it feels weird to wrap it. because it doesn't feel that long ago. It doesn't feel a long ago, and I've got to say, I've enjoyed every single week. Oh, my gosh.

It's been awesome. I've been looking forward to getting every screener we get. I'm like, oh, yay! We have to find out what happens. It's truly like giddy over it. We got excited again about The Bachelor, but it does, Ash, and we meet most people to come off the show, I think, and it always affects me differently. Maybe it's a little faith in humanity or faith in what, you know, our identities and purpose

have been in for a while. when we meet people like Tasha and Garrett and Becca who sit on this podcast and I leave being like oh there's a good community of people out here who came off the show like we're gonna be all right like this isn't all drama this isn't all just fun in games like this is real and we're okay such good people we're so blessed to have this circle

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forget we'll be back tomorrow so you have us today and you have us tomorrow okay so this is what you guys are to do now because you're your professionals at the podcasting world your co-hosts of the show follow our lead okay just follow us who you did you do this wait I'm so sorry we interrupt this sign off because Easton just created a photo of you and a bathtub on your Blackberry oh that's fantastic that was good how did you do that so fast. I'm really good at it. I've been watching Easton type and he's a professional one-finger

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