The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Come On Now! It's Litia Garr!

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Litia Garr is talking with Ashley about what life has been like, post-Bachelor...and she's not holding anything back! Was there any truth to the rumored "coin flip" ending of her season that ultimately sent her home? Litia is opening up about how she processed her breakup feelings and how she felt when she heard that Grant and Juliana split. Plus, could we be seeing Litia on "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives"??? Ashley gets the scoop! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a dirt ritual? No clue, Dakota. To find out how it ends. Listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast with IHartRadio. Hey everyone. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today is me. Um, Ben is on a plane. He was delayed, so he isn't able to make our interview with the beautiful, the wonderful Latia Gar. Hello, welcome to the show. Hi, Ashley. Thanks so much for having me. Hi. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much for being here. You were one of the cast members in recent memory that I can actually feel being like very glued to. I love, I actually enjoyed watching Grant's season in episodes because of you.

because, like, I really started to feel very attached to you, I guess, like, top six-ish. Okay. And just, like, thank you for being such a compelling character. I was really rooting for you. I think that you just seemed like you were, like, fun and you're beautiful, but you had depth. And I don't know, you, like, kind of felt like a character that we would have seen years ago on the franchise. Not that, like, that's not to poo-poo on anybody right now, but it's just, like, the, investment that I had in your relationship was the investment level that I was more used to having

about a decade ago. Oh, that's so nice of you to say. I feel like I looked out with the conversations in time that I had, like serious, like compelling stuff came up. I feel like, I mean, we really didn't talk about like anyone else in the house. It was mostly just about me and him. So I feel like it made it easier in that way that most of our time was just about. him and I. So that's nice of you. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. I'm a fan. Of course. Thanks. So when you look back on your time on this season, do you see it through totally different lenses? When you left, did you think, man, I am heartbroken and this pain is going to last so long? Or did you have some sort of like, I always describe like the lifting of the

Bachelor bubble kind of, where you're all the sudden thinking, like, oh, wow, like he was hot, but I think it was just hot. And I'm not sure whether or not, like, I truly felt as intensely because you're in this bubble. What was your thoughts? I think I have looked at it from a few different lenses, right? Like, I think initially when I went home and I'm like driving away in the car, I'm like, what was that? Like, I'm so, like, confused. Like, I just had the rug pulled and I have no context or anything. And I think like as I sat at home, I was like, okay, yeah, it was a little bit of a bubble. And like I kind, it kind of starts to click that like, I really didn't have that much time with him. So there really were so many gaps that were like

big. And I just missed so many like parts of his personality. And I, there's just like missing context for so much. And then for sure watching it back and seeing like other people's conversations added even like a different layer of perspective where I was like okay yeah like the conversations that he's having with other people are not aligned with the version that I that I had in my head while I was filming and so it's like you continue to learn and I think that's like with any breakup you know like you continued like it kind of continues to make sense more and more as you get away from it and as like your feelings kind of like fade away you know Can you give us an example? Yeah. Can you give us an example of like a conversation that you saw? And you're like, oh, this is totally different than what I thought the guy was about. I mean, any of his time with Juliana was just like, I think a different version of him than I saw. You know, like I think, but that's also so fair because, you know, different people bring out different sides of you. And so like, that's not to say anything about either one of them. It was just more like, oh, yeah, no, our relationship was so, so different than theirs.

And, like, I just didn't, you know, there were parts of it where I just, like, didn't recognize. I was like, oh, okay. Like, good to know. There was some speculation during your season that if he were to pick you, he was in it. He was going to have to long haul it, take it seriously. Heaven forbid you take an engagement series. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes.

But if he went the Giuliana route, she may have been a little bit more lax about how far, you know, how fast they led to marriage and all. of that maybe he got the vibe that he could just like date her in real life what's your thoughts watching it back especially um i mean yeah i think that juliana's timeline is different than mine i didn't really ever talk to her about that but mine wasn't news to him like we talked about that during the finance date when hannah burner was on he like yeah this game to they didn't show our conversation that night but he put this game together with different cards and asked about my timeline I wanted to have kids.

And I was like, well, once I like meet my person, like within two years. And so if it's you, then like two years from now is ideal. But that's like a conversation. That's a lot of conversations that we have together. And so my religion and my timeline and all the rest of it seemed to be a big deal for him at the end. But it wasn't new information he knew that week too. So I was kind of like, all right. And didn't he say I love you and said like you're the one?

Yeah, several times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was that. And he said it the first time, I think. He said it on FaceTime to my mom.

And he said it like throughout the date, like the puppy date. He said it like a bunch of times. And I remember looking at like, like I literally looked at Bradford. And I was like, are you like, is you like allowed to say stuff like that? And, you know, I was, it was, he continued to say it the whole time, whether or not he was supposed to. And I know that they talked to him about it several times, but yeah, he kept saying it. What's crazy is like, I know that multiple bachelors, my co-host included, have, have said, I love you to two people. Like, that to me, like, actually makes sense.

Um, what doesn't make sense to me is him kept keep, he kept saying to you, you're the one. Like, you're the one. Oh, yeah. me is even more intense in the bachelor process. Totally. I think like it's so hard. And like this is dating in general, right? Like you are thinking like when they say something to me, that means something to me, but I don't really know what that means to you. And like you might be someone that they're like trying on for size and they say things like, you're my wife. You're the one that I'm like, oh my gosh, you act like you know. So in my mind, you know that I'm your wife. So I got to catch up or I got

like, you know, cut you loose. And so, but to them, they're just like, no, like, that's just like how I, like, approach dating. Like, I don't know. That's messed up. It is. It's messed up. But I, like, I'm not going to pretend to know what goes on in the minds of boys and men.

But I think, like, you know, for whatever reason, it made sense to him. And I think, I think he even now says that he didn't say it, which is, like, fine. I don't okay. Like, it's, you know, whatever. But I think that, yeah. he said it a bunch and like you're my wife he said it for the first time actually to um me and to like producers when it was on the first group date when we did like that rmb like my open mic thing um when we had like our conversation and i was crying about dating and he was like

i know that you're my wife and then he like said it oh my gosh i yeah i don't know he's where's this part on his name i think what he calls it. I know that you're my wife from like week two. Which is like red flag, right? Like that like normal people don't say stuff like that. Yeah, that's true. When is your wife after, you know, 15 minutes, 30 minutes of conversation. So that should have been like my first thing.

I think in my mind, I was like, well, he knows it's being filmed and like he's actually actively dating other people. So like there's a litmus test kind of built into this process of like comparing everything and like, comparing other relationships. It sounds way more intense to say that, yeah, when there's other people involved. That's what I thought. If you were like dating in real life and he said that and then you guys got to know each other better and it ended up not being the truth, that would be like one thing.

Yeah. But for you to just be in a competition and he crowns you wife at that point. Wow. Okay. Actions matched, I think, was the was honest. like the most like I don't even I don't want to say deceiving part but like that's that that that is what I felt let on by the most is that like yeah it was the only one that had two one on one dates and I was the you know like he always called my name first for roses and like

like other girls like when they were leaving like in their exit interviews were like well I know it's her like so it like it wasn't just like oh it's all in my head I was like no like I mean privately and publicly like he like his actions match his words it just I do you think there's love bombing like I don't even know what 100% 100 100 but I think like to say I love you in eight weeks that's love bomb like that's in my mind you know that's like a very like accelerated like dating relationship from meeting someone to getting engaged like you I kind of like had already made my piece with that going in do you know what I mean like I was just like yeah yeah

the show goes I know that they get engaged at the end so there is like romance bombing yeah exactly like there like there's a love bomby like aspect of this whole thing built into it yeah definitely

so when do you think it's switched to him choosing Juliana hey I heard we all heard here on this podcast did you hear about a possible coin flip oh I heard about the coin flip flip. I didn't hear any like confirmation about that. Yeah. If there was a coin flip, I'm grateful for however

it all turned off. I know, because you would have gotten the right side of the coin. That's for sure. I, I think in my mind, it's like God's plan. Like, I think I felt so, like, looked after and grateful for my experience. I had, I had such a good experience, really, because the whole time, I was like, I didn't ever stress. Like, every row ceremony, I was like, oh, I'm good. No worries. And, like, you know, I'm just like, I'm just there for a good time. Like, hey, you know, I, like, I made, like, I made so many amazing friends and, like, you know, everyone on the crew, like, I'm like, I still, like, text and, like, keep in touch with it. And, like, I, I had such a great time. And then it was really just only a bummer at the end.

One bad moment. Yeah. I got food poisoning. And then I got the rug pulled. But really, I think it was, you know, protection. So. A blessing. A true blessing.

in disguise. Do you have any idea, though, when, like, it would have flipped in his head if it weren't for a coin flip? I mean, I think it's probably around overnights, I would guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking, too. Yeah. If I had to guess when it would have been, that's when. I'm not remembering correctly. Were overnight's a thing for you with, with your Mormon religion? Did you clarify that you were not going to be sleeping with him in the And is she sweet? Mm-hmm. So, yeah.

In my religion, we don't, I mean, I think it's like most Christian religions. Like, we don't believe in premarital sex. For me, an added layer of that was that there are other people involved. And, like, at a minimum, you know, I don't want to, like, have anything, like, when I know that we're not exclusive, you know? Exactly. Yeah. And not just that.

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But what was interesting to us was that, like, he said that he has some credentials for being a dating expert because he was the bachelor. that's why he's doing a new dating show what do you think about him having yeah i would love to see his resume yeah okay well his show will come out soon and we'll know further about why he deems himself an expert i'm gonna say in the next week or so i do think it's like a youtube show i'm not a hundred percent show nice okay good for him yeah happy for him so we know that you latia and juliana do not to follow each other on Instagram. Was that a real friendship to begin with? So my friendship with Juliana was the same as

like my friendship with most of the girls. I think that obviously you're closer to certain people because either you share like a room with them or you happen to be on the same group dates as them or you just like naturally are more drawn to other people. Yeah. I think that for a lot of, lot of the time, I think she kind of like isolated herself from the group. And so she was not

really, I would say, close with as many of the girls until towards the end, like in Scotland. So like to me, like I genuinely like, and I still do. Like I care for Juliana. I have love for her. I want to see like her successful and happy. And I think that I don't agree with some of her choices and some of the things that she said there at the end. But, like, I still, like, I don't have any ill will towards her. And I certainly don't, like, hold anything against her. I think she's doing the best she can. So.

It was never like you guys were besties. No. Okay. Yeah. I was very close with Dana and Dina. Okay. And Zoe and Alex and Natalie and, like, I think those were, like, my closer, closer girls. throughout filming.

Did you, did you reach out at all after the breakup? Oh yeah, Juliana and I FaceTimed like. Oh, you did. After. Yeah. And it was like totally friendly until the end. It was like news to me

at the end that like I was making up and I was, you know, she took offense to things. There wasn't offense intended, but that's how it was taken so so that was throughout like the airing and like before airing yeah before airing yeah we would like exchange text messages and yeah up until honestly like I think maybe hometowns are overnights the week that those aired okay like texting and okay

and then checking in on each other and yeah but then when the two of them broke up juliana and grant you didn't you didn't talk to her since then I haven't talked to her all righty so you are friends with Alex. Yeah, I wish you well. No, of course, of course, of course. Yes. No, I mean, that makes total sense. If you guys stop talking long before their breakup, that wouldn't make any sense as to why you would have talked afterward unless, you know, she wanted to be like, I'm jealous. I wish I didn't have to go through that. No, she doesn't even be jealous. She's doing well. She's doing she's doing just fine. Yes. So our next bachelorette, Taylor, Fricky Paul, is also a Mormon, also lives. in Utah. And I remember that there was some, like, spotting of you with some of the secret wives, ladies?

Mm-hmm. Were you filming an episode of the show? Yeah, I think that there was filming going on. I'm not, like, a cast member or anything. Yeah. And there's no, yeah. But you've maybe been around the set before? I've been around, yeah. I've been around

while they're filming. So then do you know, do you know Taylor? I know Taylor. I met Taylor a few times. I really like her. I'm excited to watch her. I think she is... I mean, I was a fan of Secret Lives, of Mormon Wives, like, before I ever met any of them. And so, like, I'm just, like, I, you know,

they're good at their job. Like, I'm entertained. Yeah. So I'm a fan of Taylor. I want to see her win, and I'm excited. Is there anything that you think the audience should know that Taylor should keep in mind when filming when it comes to being Mormon?

One thing that I hope that maybe happened because I was on in the season before is I hope that people are just a little bit more open-minded that I think there's like a lot of like cult talk and I will say I want to shout out you and Ben and Ben especially because I think he knows some people that are like active in my religion and I really appreciated how much grace

and like open-mindedness and realness, you guys talked about my religion and specifically me with. I think a lot of people, and when I say a lot, it's like maybe there were a few people, but it takes up a lot of space in your brain, you know, when people say that. But I think that there's like a misconception about my religion that women especially are, that it's really, really strict for women and it's like very narrow-minded and conservative and traditional. And I think that by the world standards and like, you know, everything else that's going on, it is conservative.

But we all definitely have our own agency and free will to choose whatever we want. And like the biggest thing about our religion is that we are taught is that God loves you and that like church and religion and his love is for everyone. And so I think that a lot of people view our choices as like, oh, that must, it's like our religion. is very prescriptive and like she must be doing that because she thinks that the men in her life or the you know like her church leaders are going to come down on her for this and it's like no like I live according to my religion standards because I actually believe that's the thing that brings the most happiness and peace to my life and I haven't found anything else that brings that amount of joy and peace to me so that's why it is the core tenet that I live my life by not because

I'm scared of men or because I think that I'm scared of what people will think. I do things according to what I think will bring me the most happiness. So I think I hope that people. I think that shows. I hope to take that into account. I think Taylor, I honestly really commend Taylor for everything that she has like said about her relationship because, you know, none of us are without like our regrets or mistakes. And I think that she views forgiveness and be atonement in the same way that I do.

And it's just that it's for everyone. And that's why it exists is because we're not perfect. And God wants us to be happy. So I think that's how I hope that people view our religion and us as women that are members of our religion is just that we're doing the best we can. And it doesn't mean that we need to be perfect. we're just, you know, figuring it out just like everybody else. I think she's going to demonstrate a lot of what you just said, just based on me watching season one of Housewives of, you know, Mormon wives.

She's going to do a good job doing that. Is it frustrating to you guys that Mormons and polygamous get lumped together incorrectly? Yeah, like, I think, like, it's just, I think there are misconceptions about any religion, you know? Like I think has like a whole thing that they probably wish wasn't a part of their wreck. Like we all kind of have like no one is perfect again. That's why, you know, we believe in forgiveness and we subscribe to, you know, the idea that you can do better and learn and do better next time. But I think I like polygamy doesn't resonate with me.

I don't understand that part. I'm with you. I don't know. I don't get that part. But I know the parts that really resonates. resonate with me, and those are the things that I live my life by. Polygmy's not one of them, though. That's for certain. I'm not, and especially after the Bachelor experience, I don't think I'm cut out for it. I don't think I've cut out for it.

Oh my gosh, do they ever approach you to be the Bachelorette? I know that they kind of said that there wasn't going to be a Bachelorette after your season, but lo and behold, it is actually what we got. I mean, I think, like, it's the same thing every season. You know, like they kind of just put feelers out and you go out for everything and you talk to you know rob and whoever and but then they fired all the producers so i was like oh yeah they're doing the show ever it's probably a bad time to be in contention to be the lead well you would be a fabulous lead and we do hope that you're on something in the future because you'd be so so good you're just you're good at holding your own and you're a good personality for this um you bring a lot of

goodness to the franchise so I hope that you're around again but before we move on to talk more about present day I do just want to talk about your epic departure from the show I mean maybe maybe the most memorable

departure I could think of since like a switcheroo type season really? Right? Yes because we were floored that it wasn't you it was and you

just were such like you just delivered the perfect amount of bitchiness that the situation called for in the way that you're just like come on now hilarious did you did you cringe a little watching it back I gotta be honest with you

I love watching it back like literally like I was not actually I was not well like when I tell you, they gave me so much medicine because I had food poisoning. Like, I was not well. They gave me so much medicine to make sure that I was like, I didn't have anything. Like, I was okay.

You could walk down that aisle. Walk down and, like, and stand there for that. I blacked out. Like, I really don't. Like, I like watching it because it's like, I get to be like a viewer and just be like, because I don't remember a ton. And like, I know, I don't say that a lot in my normal life. I think I was so exhausted and so just like I think it was like most of what you saw there was me just being like that's okay like it doesn't have to be me but like be so for real right now like literally level with me here and like I was just looking for traction like just be a real person and just like admit that like you're going back on what you said this whole time that's totally fine.

But just like, I, like, I want you to, like, just say it. And he just, like, wouldn't. And so I was just like, really? Like, yeah. I would have handled it the exact same way. Maybe that's why I love it so much. Just like, dude, are you, wait, kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Because you never see that with people. You see them that get, like, mad and sad, but mostly quiet. and you were so vocal, and I loved it so much. When that conversation was so long, Ashley, like, I, like, we were sat there for probably 45 minutes, like, Polly and everyone, like, is like rushing us through. They're like, Grant, like, you have to get in the car. Like, you have, like, okay, you guys got to start walking now. Like, you have to walk away.

And he's like, no, like, he was like getting that. He was like, no, for a minute. Like, I have two more. Oh. To say. And, like, I think, ultimately, I think he. just like didn't want me to like be mad at him like he just like didn't want it to like end on bad terms and I was just like well you should have thought about that the entire time when you

were saying all this stuff like I'm sorry there's just like not a world where this ends well for you like that with between you and I like I was just like after every said and after all of like the warnings and like how cautious I feel like I've been for both of us and you just like barreled past him every time there's not like this was going to be bad like it's not like and I didn't want it to be mean either like I I hope it didn't come across in that way it wasn't mean though because of what he did it was deserving I was just like accountable like yeah just be accountable but he just wouldn't do it so I was like well so basically he was trying to keep you there for 40 about five minutes, but not at all admitting that, like, he said things that he should have

never said. Yeah, because he would be like, well, do you think? Like, do you think I've been misleading? And I was like, I literally looked over to like the audio people and the camera people and I was like, shall we run the tapes? Like, I don't have like, I don't have the energy and we don't have the time to like really like express to you by. Of course. Like, of course he's. been misleading. And I don't know how much of that is like part of being the lead and how much of that is because you thought it was me or you just wanted me to like you or whatever it was. But I was like, duh. Like, yeah, this is this is not pleasant. To your misfortune, I would have loved to have the 45 minutes aired because just I would love to have them aired. I would love to

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I'm assuming that you just probably weren't very surprised when he and Juliana broke up so shortly after the finale. I don't know. I mean, I wasn't happy to see it. Like, I think when we were... Of course. I'm not insinuating that you would have been. I wanted it to be because, you know, like they were like each other's match and all the rest of it.

So I was like sad to see it not work out because I was like he for sure wanted it. So I was like, well, I want him to be happy. But yeah, I got to be honest, like I don't know who he is. Like I thought that I did while it aired and then that we've seen like, you know, a different persona online. And so I think I wanted, you know, to see him be happy and figure it out. and he didn't. So maybe the dating. Part of his new social media content is that he seems very, very much interested in finding the one now.

And I think that a lot of people doubted that desire about a year ago. And I don't really know if I have a question about that. But just a statement. Yeah. I mean, I don't really see his stuff very often. I did see the celibacy thing and cheering him on in that regard, but I really don't know anything else. All righty.

Well, have you dated at all since? Yeah. I've dated a little bit here and there. What's a date look like these days? It's been a long time for me. Like, is it still suck so bad? It sucks so bad, Ashley. I'm so sorry.

No, it's, they're fine they're fun there are good guys out there and i think like i have definitely been on dates with good guys and been on a date with a few duds that's just you know the look of the draw that's how it goes but nothing to be jealous so okay so no one out there of note right now there's a few of no i think oh okay there are until you know you got to keep hope you know you got to stay positive. Okay, good. Okay, great.

So there's some guys that you're still talking to. Yeah. Okay, great. Have you been interested or ever DM'd with anybody from Bachelor Nation? I don't think so. I think like friendly exchanges, but I haven't like been on dates with anyone or like nothing romantic from anyone. We saw that you hung out with Alex, who is now with Andrew. I just want to say that they're engaged.

because they're so cute and I want them to be engaged. I love them so much. I love like I truly like Alex is like my little sister. Like I, we are so different, but we are like bonded. I like, I don't know why. We like text all the time, FaceTime every day. Like I just, I love Alex. And when they came into town, I was like, gosh, like I really hope I like Andrew.

And I totally did. Oh yeah. He's wonderful. They're just the most cute thing. in the entire world. She was one of the people that I felt like very similarly towards you. Like I felt about you. But I felt mostly with that with Alex when she was on Paradise.

Like I loved watching Alex on Paradise. Yes. No, I feel like she really got to shine on Paradise. I love watching her on that. I love watching them and Bailey and Teresa and Zoe and Alicia at like all. Like I just, we got so lucky with the girls on our season. like I really like we got so so lucky there's we got so many good ones would there have been anybody from bachelor nation that you would have put on your list if you had gone to paradise I don't think so

that's why I didn't go because I was just kind of okay who like who am I going like that was like that was like the conversations that I was having as I was like not to be mean but like I like there's not anyone that I'm like ooh like I really hope you know what I mean yeah mm-hmm okay well so you're open to it for the future. Sure. Yeah. Okay. Cool. This wasn't a good time. All right. Good. Well, I hope that this cast is full of cute guys that you would like to date in paradise. It came out the other day. No, they look great. Yeah. Some of them are from Utah. I know. I saw there's actually a few. Yeah. Makes sense. I'm glad that they did that. But then you could probably just meet those guys whenever they go home. No, I think I have actually. It meant a few. Oh, really?

just before they went to go film? No, no, like just from living in Utah for like forever and ever and ever. It's just small, it's a small place, Ashley. You should come. You have to come out one time. I've been to Salt Lake once and I've been to, what's the other place an hour away? The bougie place. Park City.

Yeah, yeah, Park City. Both are so nice. Yep. Love it. Yeah. So nice. The air is like crisp there. It just like tastes like fresh.

It is like it's cold. And it's sharp. No, yeah, but it's a small, small place. Do you have any thoughts of these guys that you see? There's a lot of cuties. Yeah, no, I'm excited for her. I think, like, I'm excited for her to kind of, like, dip her toe in a fresh pool of different people, kind of, like, outside of Utah. And I think it'll be good.

Like, I'm so excited to watch. So you're saying that you, like, feel like some of those. faces are familiar on the list. And my producer and I were just speculating the other day that she is going to have met some of these guys in the past because of the small town vibes. You think, yeah? I think for sure. I think there's no way with how many people are from Utah in that cast that her path, that their paths haven't crossed before filming. I could be wrong. I don't know. And like that's on casting to see, you know, how many mutuals they have and stuff like that. So we'll see how good of digging they did.

Because I think they like everybody to be pretty separate, you know? Yeah. And it's like a pretty fresh thing. So I'll be, I'll be interested to see if she knows any of them. So you had a really cool ad over the summer where you

teased that you were getting married but you were actually walking down the frozen food aisle. Love it. It was perfectly teased. It really did make quite many headlines. What are you working on these days? What does life look like today? Well, I got bangs. That's new. Cool. Curtin banks, yeah. And I got a house. I love that. Oh, wow. So great. Yeah. My life is pretty much the same as when I left, which I love. Like, I have a good life, but it's not. I don't have a ton of new. What are you doing for work? Is it mostly influencing? Influencing right now. Yep, I'm winding down on venture capital. and just staying open-minded to see.

All right. Well, good for you. Any plans for Halloween before we let you go? Yeah. One of my friends is hosting a night and we're being Disney princesses. So we're dressing up on Friday. So cute. Who are you going to be?

Jasmine. Yay, the best one there is. Yeah. I have been Jasmine for, I can't even tell you how many holidays. no you're literally perfect you're me you are jasmine i'm pretty sure that you are too so somehow we can both be really good jasmines the brunette like all of complexion girl yeah small pool yeah she's from okay well lydia it has been such a pleasure talking to you and i can't wait to hopefully see you on our tvs at some other point because you're you're great and well i regardless of how you find

I just want you to find love because you are some wifey material. Thank you. I just want to say thank you to you and Ben for having me on, but also because your podcast was one of the few podcasts that was a safe space for me to listen to in terms of recap. So I just want to say, like, as like someone that was on the show, it's, I love your takes. I'm sad.

I love, I listen to, like I still listen to it and I love you guys. And I'm so grateful for you guys. Oh, gosh. Latia, thank you. That's so sweet. The fact that you even listen to a podcast while it was airing is scary. It is. No, it was scary. But I like consistently every week, it was a safe space. And I loved hearing your guys's opinions because you were always so kind and like gave me so much grace and everyone so much grace. So I just like, it's not easy in the reality TV space to look at people as people and you both do such a good job. So thank you so much. Thank you so much. All right. Well, guys. Until next time, I've been Ashley. And that has been Latia Gar. Bye. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHartRadio,

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