The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Cut Off at the Root with Bekah Martinez
Episode Date: February 4, 2020Ben and Ashley catch up with fan favorite Bekah Martinez from Arie’s season!Awkward alert...Ben confronts Bekah about rumors she thinks he's a tool.Ashley relates to Kelsey as the “crier” of the... house and we have a conversation about being emotionally open on the show. Has a rose ever been “taken back” before in a rose ceremony? And which of the girls is trying to manipulate the others?Bekah is here with her “Chatty Broads” co-host Jess to help us break down the first of this week’s double dose of Bachelor! Plus Bekah opens up about motherhood and the lessons she’s learned over the last couple years. And Ben lets us in on his prep for living on a tour bus! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate.
Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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This is the Ben and Ashley I
Almost Famous Podcast with IHartRadio
And we're gonna be more excited to be here
I'm telling you what we're pumped up
jacked up ready to talk about everything bachelor ashley yeah this is getting insane some people
hate this season some people love it everybody's on edge are you ready to break this down yes i am i
i'm really into this episode it was good for being three hours and me being like wow i got to tackle
three hours now after the super bowl i enjoyed pretty much every minute of it it's weird uh just
we're not going to break it down right now we're going to get into it later we have a special guest
today, Becca Martinez and her co-host, Jess Ambrose, are coming on the podcast today to talk
everything Bachelor and their podcast. So in a second, we'll welcome them in. But before we do,
Ashley, I want to just make a statement and see if you agree or disagree, okay?
Okay.
This season has not been bad. I will never categorize it as bad. I like Peter. He is a nice guy.
It wasn't until this episode that I was, I feel hooked. I could have carried the
less the first couple weeks to watch or not.
Now, I cannot wait to the next one comes out.
Okay, so I guess, like, I'm less interested in who he ends up with this season,
but I am always latched on to the drama.
Interesting.
Well, here in a little bit, we have some really passionate folks in studio today.
Our producer Tori has just blown up there.
Oh, yay, Tori's going to join us.
With her impassioned speech on how much she hates this season.
So we're going to bring her on a little bit.
You don't really hate it.
I don't enjoy it.
Really?
I don't think any girl is like great.
I'm like trying to picture every time once the episode ends.
I'm like, okay, who would I want to see have, be like the next step as like the Bachelorette?
I can't pick one.
Okay.
So every girl comes with a caveat.
I kind of agree with that.
That blogger girl.
McKenna is they're giving her a big storyline right now of just like, I'm so sad.
I want him to see how amazing I am.
So I'm like, maybe it might be her.
So it's very self-deprecating, but I just can't with her.
You guys know that, like, I couldn't stand McKenna for a while.
This episode, maybe be like, okay, fine.
I like her.
You know why?
Well, I don't, maybe I don't want to say like a like, but I can watch her.
No.
I can watch her.
We don't see things the same way.
When she goes, I want him to see how great I am.
I put my hand in my face.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Why are you trying to show him how great you are?
Why don't you just show him who you are and see if he thinks you're great.
Oh, Ben, you were thinking.
so beautifully. The most time I really liked McKenna is when she goes, I'm just so
tired. And I was like, wow, I really relate to that. That was the one time I was like,
okay, McKenna, we're on the same page. See, I liked her this episode because she was just like,
I am a hot mess and I'm just going to show you guys, I'm a hot mess. But then why can she say
that and not get ripped to pieces about being emotionally unstable? But there's Kelsey being like,
I'm so sad. Hey, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up. Well, I just want to throw that up there. Pause this thought.
Pause this thought.
Tori, we're going to bring you back on in a few minutes.
I was going to talk to Becca to give our opinions on all the madness.
And let me tell you, it is madness.
Hey, Ashley, I spent some time here a second ago researching how to live on a tour bus
because in two days, I start to move on to a tour bus for four months.
You want to hear something wild.
Yeah.
And potty jokes are never fun.
This is not a potty joke.
A potty stuff is fun and relatable.
It's never that.
good, but it's relatable. Did you know that the number one tip on a tour bus is that you have to
stop the whole bus, get out somewhere in public to go number two? Yes, I did know this.
There is 10 people living on my bus. You're telling me I have to go to the front of this bus every
morning at 9 o'clock, knock on the driver's door and say, hello, sir, I'm struggling back here.
To evacuate my butt. I need to change everybody's life. I need to allow you to sit
and not continue to progress forward on our next location
because I need to take a break and not just a break.
Now every single relaxing moment of my mornings
has to be rushed because I know there's 10 people.
Why do you guys love their pooping moments?
It's like such a weird thing.
So here I am with Tori and before we started recording,
I was like, Tori, I don't know if you're with me,
but the last time I had like a girl versus guy conversation
about like pooping time um the girl was on my side and the guy was on jared's side so like jared
likes having his like moments right and apparently ben like also needs like apparently what did you
just call it what time like relaxing time it's enough time to read two articles on and on like my
sports center app never read anything on the toilet because oh if i if my body is telling me uh you got
to go, I go to the bathroom, and it happens immediately, and then I'm out of there.
Yeah, mine's pretty quick.
It's not much different of a time between pee and poop.
And then I talked to Jade and Tanner about this.
Tanner needs like a full hour in the bathroom.
Jade is like, no, I can just go and get out.
And what the heck?
Is this a girl versus guy thing?
I don't, yeah, maybe listeners.
Just a good listener question.
Listeners, please email us at Ben and Ashley, iHeartmedia.com or hashtag us at the almost
famous podcast. What is this all about? Is this scientific? Is this preference? Has society moved
this in a direction that is unfair to equal sexes and that neither side should have the amount of
time they have in the bathroom? I don't know what it is. Hey, but here's something else cool.
Ashley. Yeah. Okay. I was just going to say, but Ben, yes, I was aware of the tour bus rules and I'm sorry
you have to go through that. They should definitely upgrade, update tour buses so that like it can
hold a little bit of storage so yeah when all you out there that are listening are seeing me at one of
these 66 locations just realized that my life has been so stressful over those 66 stops there's just a lot
going on hey two quick stories before you get started both kind of revolving around this situation
one to close up this topic as i'm looking uh at google on how uh what the options are for me
uh to not have to stop the bus there's something called the hot old bag and it's a grocery bag that
You can stick in your toilet and then you tie it up.
It's a thing.
You claim it's not.
It's a thing on tour buses that people do.
And then you politely go up to the front of the bus.
You tell the driver, hey, can we just stop for one second as I throw my trash out?
That's a good option.
You can look it up.
It's called the hot old bag.
Then the driver knows that you have a bag of poop in your hand.
Well, he's going to do a lot of things about me by the time.
This is done.
Second thing is Brandi Cyrus.
Yes, the beloved brand.
Randy Cyrus, co-hosts with Wells Adams on their podcast, was living at my house last week.
While I was in Orlando, Florida, I get a text from Brandy Cyrus that says, Ben, something's leaking in your basement.
I was like, well, that doesn't sound good.
I'm called the plumber up.
Plummer comes out.
It says, Ben, your main line has broke at your house.
Everything at this point is going to back back up into your house.
Oh, good Lord.
oh yeah the whole it's real beautiful downstairs right now we have gotten it cleaned up but let me tell
you team this is a funny little thing i put on my instagram on like thursday or no on sunday i am knee
deep in my main line trying to get things cleaned up cleaning up everything's gone in the basement
on monday i am hosting gm a walking a red carpet if you think like
Life is funny.
That's how real it still is.
It's pretty real.
Let me tell you.
So, hey, anyways, that's my life right now.
And I'm getting ready to hit the road for the Bachelor Live on stage.
Please come see us at one of our 66 locations.
Go to Bachelor Live onstage.com.
For more info, Ashley.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, I'm going to be at the one in Reno, making a special guest appearance, you guys, if you care.
Man, it just sold out within seconds.
I'm telling you right now.
Oh, that's so sweet.
It's Ben, me, Jess, Jared, and Caitlin and Dean, we're all spending Valentine's Day together.
It's a triple date.
How do you feel about that?
Your first Valentine's Day as a married couple.
Well, I don't really care that it's as a married couple.
I think it's, like, really cool.
It's going to be really fun.
We can do Valentine's Day, like, Day, Day, anytime.
Like, we had a nice date this week.
So you can, like, make your Valentine's Day any day.
I'm pumped for it.
We're going to have a great date.
Chef's coming into the house in Tahoe that we're staying at.
We have a blast.
That's what we do for you, listener.
Because we host this podcast, we spend our Valentine's Day together with friends, and we're pumped about it.
Hey, Ashley, Becca Martinez has been, is rolling up in the studio soon.
So let's get through some of these hot Bachelor trending news stories.
But before we do, let's take one break.
Talk about some of our favorite people that support the podcast.
And we'll come back with the Bachelor trending news.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Well, wait a minute, Sam.
her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.
And I'm Drew Phillips.
And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Oh my God, perfect.
And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Yes, yes.
Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
Open your free IHeartRadio app.
Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.
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I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection.
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Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?
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My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed.
I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin.
So, like, it's not like...
What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke.
but that really was my reality nine years ago.
I'd just normally do straight stand-up,
but this is a bit different.
On stage stood a comedian
with a story that no one expected to hear.
The 22nd of July 2015,
a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
And then he came to my house.
So what do you get when a true crime producer
walks into a comedy club?
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actually I'll let you take it from here but I do want to say this first story makes me very sad
oh it's so sad we love Joe and Kendall I loved hanging out
them together. Joe is such a cool
guy like Jared just was able to relate
to the fact that he could
like he hated LA
and that all he wanted to do was be
back east. I mean Chicago
Rhode Island. Midwest. Yeah, you know what I
mean. The other side of the country.
So Joe and Kendall
broke up and I don't
I don't know if it's been clear
but I'm pretty sure the main
reason for the breakup was that
she never felt like
she was going to want to leave L.A.
She was born and raised here and her family is all still here.
Her identical twin sister lives here and they are unbelievably close.
And so she didn't want to move.
And then Joe was just so unhappy here that he couldn't,
he didn't want to spend much longer here,
let alone the rest of his life.
So this is one of those reasons,
this is one of those like distance truly,
or not distance,
but like location really broke up the relationship from the information that I got.
I mean, I get it.
I've been in it before.
Like, I've had past relationships that one person wants to live somewhere else, and you can't figure it out.
Neither side is necessarily, like, compromising.
And when you do tighter compromise, it doesn't feel any better.
It's tough.
But we love Joe and Kendall, and we wish them both individually the best as they move forward.
I really do feel like they'll remain good friends because, you know, it was a distance thing or it was a location thing.
So our next piece of news is that Jordan Kimball, you guys remember Kimball, you know, the male model.
Following in Jared's footsteps.
Following in Jared's footsteps and it will be one of Chippendale's newest celebrity guest hosts.
Jared did this last year.
It was only one show.
I'm not sure Jordan's doing much more.
But you guys, Jordan or not, if you are in Sin City, go see Chippendales.
because it is a hilariously entertaining show.
We were there with Jay, Tanner, Nick, and our agent,
and the guys had so much fun.
So it's kind of just like a parody.
And it's a very enjoyable show.
Jordan will probably make it better if you're a Bachelor fan.
So check them out.
Hey, really, really big article that came out about Ben Higgins.
Yes, it says who Ben Higgins wants to set up Hannah Brown with from Bachelor Nation?
This is from Cheat Sheet.
This is a funny, funny article to read because they had to know or go, hey, who should Hannah Brown date from Bachelor Nation?
So I started going through all the single people.
There isn't a lot of single men in Bachelor Nation right now that like would even be able to, you know, stand up with Hannah Brown.
But I said, Sean Booth, I think Nick Vile obviously would be somebody.
I don't think Nick's down to date, Hannah.
Why not?
he has a little he doesn't he doesn't want to date her i'll tell you that he doesn't want to date
he doesn't want to date well i don't know if sean booth does either and that's the thing it's like
and i said there you talk to sean i haven't talked to sean about this i was just in an interview
they threw it at me i start just spouting out names i was just with derrick pate and wells the night
before i was like this you know eric he he was on our live podcast people seemed to love him maybe him but
Other than that, Ashley, was there anybody I missed?
No, Derek definitely is probably the best single option.
I like the idea of Sean, but again, long-distance-ish relationship there.
I don't know how that's going to really form.
And if you guys want to listen, if you guys think, if you want to know more about, you know,
Nick's feeling sorts Hannah, you can listen to his podcast.
He hasn't, like, said, like, there's not like dirt or anything, but I just don't think that
they'd be compatible and I don't think that he's interested.
So Derek Path is obviously out there.
he's a good one i didn't you're saying i didn't miss anybody right um no i think i'm thinking like
all the guys are kind of taken uh yeah it's not wild wow we're all getting so old so much love
going around people are you know people are going to be like i can't believe you guys didn't
come up with so and so i know well that's good let us know you let us for a little bit why don't
she can she should go back to mike johnson give that a world yeah you can try that out um
See how that goes.
Hey, also, there's a picture of Peter's mom that is blowing up the airways.
His mom is saying, bring her back.
Bring her back.
Who could this possibly be, Ashley?
Early in the season, we thought this was Hannah B, right?
I'm thinking that Hannah B.
doesn't not show up again.
This is referencing some other woman.
And I still feel like if it's not Hannah, it's Maddie.
And I think that's what I said, week one, I'm going to stick to.
it you're going to stick to it well hey it is fun to see how much involvement uh you know
peter's family has had so far this season i always love to see the family side of things because i
think it brings a reality and it makes us feel more involved in the whole story his his parents
obviously don't mind it either they've gone on podcast and and they've willingly gone on the show
and they've gone on podcasts oh hit what podcast they did uh they did a podcast with warner brothers uh the
happy hour podcast so like they obviously are enjoying this but so to my parents they were involved
in the whole process and it made it better for me i think peter's mom is passionately passionately
still speaking about hannah brown she's passionate really i still think so i think i think this
you're just trying to make this a good story actually actually what's not what i'm doing at all
okay i really think hannah brown comes back i will stick to it until we watch this thing i really
I just get a sense based on press, based on interviews, based on what we've talked to people about.
I get a sense that this season, even though it feels dramatic now, gets even more dramatic later.
I think it's a happy ending.
I think there's love.
But I think it gets really, really dramatic.
All right.
And I can only think that Hannah Brown would add that drama.
I don't know how these women get any more dramatic than they already are.
well they're doing a pretty good job on their own so i think they're doing a fantastic job then um you know
we our next guest you've had a little drama with i think or she's got a little drama right away
with you so bebecca martinez little becca or young becca from ari season will be on with us next to
break down the episode i love that she's here i love how blatantly honest and real and raw she is
she's always been one of my favorites but apparently has had some beef with my co-hosts
So you guys can address that when she comes on.
We are going to take a break and then welcome Becca and her podcast co-hosts, Jess, into the studio.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Well, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.
So we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out.
with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the
Explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.
And I'm Drew Phillips.
And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
But if you have unmedicated ADHD, I'm God, perfect.
And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Yes, yes.
Then Emergency Intercoms the podcast.
podcast for you. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.
My name is Ed. Everyone say hello Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer
and my mom is a cousin. So like it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks
into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality
nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a
comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.
Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
And then he came to my house.
So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
Available now.
Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here.
And we're locked in.
That means more juicy chisement.
Terrible love advice.
Evil spells to cast on your ex.
No, no, no, no, we're not doing that this season.
Oh, well, this season, we're leveling up.
Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it.
Get in here!
Today we have a very special guest with us.
Our new super secret bestie is the diva of the people.
The diva of the people.
I'm just like text your ex.
My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it.
Go and figure it out for yourself.
Okay.
That's us.
We're in the head.
That's us.
My name is Curley.
And I'm Maya.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbrates, men, and of course, our favorite secrets.
Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Thurie Club as a part of the Michael
Multura podcast network available on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection.
Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?
Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?
Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time?
I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is.
Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work.
twice as hard as she did.
Join me for conversations about healing and growth.
Life is freaking hard.
And growth doesn't happen in comfort.
It happened in motion, even when you're hurting.
All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen.
Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing.
Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfit podcast
as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Becca Martinez and Jess Ambrose are in studio.
We're going to break down The Bachelor, but also talk about chatty Broads.
Yay.
Their new podcast that is taking over the airways.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Okay.
Hey, before we get started, Becca, we've got to talk about the elephant in the room.
You've never been a fan of me, and I want to know why.
Oh, shut up.
That's not even true.
That is never.
exaggeration. That's not even true. The one that I said I never liked was Nick and then I changed my
mind and I never didn't like you. Then then why do I feel like there's always been tension?
We've got to talk this out because tension. The drama. There's all the tension.
There is drama. Well, this is the bachelor focus podcast. So drama just continues to suck us back in.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Jess and I always make fun of you because you're on every season of
the bachelor. We have to. We make, we make fun of you that because we're like this. Jess calls you
Chris Harrison's love child.
I have a theory that you're Chris Harrison's love child.
And that's why we think you're always,
that's why we think you're always on the show.
And we give you about that, but that's the only
I give them, like, what,
I haven't been on a season of The Bachelor in, like, years.
What?
What is I supposed on the show?
Colton's season.
You had two appearances and they cut one,
or you had like three appearances and they cut one.
Weren't you on paradigms?
No, I'm not even on paradise.
You didn't do.
Well, I mean, he did the skis.
went to the wedding the skit was last year a year and a half ago okay you're right i have gone from a bit here
it was it was the live shows some of the like after the final rose things you know you're right
that's a good point i didn't think about that they just you know what they're not wrong with him
they are and it's fine we all know why they are because he is the perfect representation of what a bachelor
they want to be you're the last kind of bachelor uh that we had like peter before peter yeah yeah absolutely
like the true bachelor stereotype yeah when they found peter they were like this is our ben
second coming uh-huh oh geez until he just stuck a glass in his face and they're like oh he ruined
it all that goofy there's that and he keeps messing up or at least wait why else do i hate you he's going
with production too much i'm gonna say it i uh i just have always felt i don't know what it is i've always
felt like maybe just nervous around you or like that you didn't like me based on Twitter
or like response to things and I just felt like we were always miscommunicating which is why
I wanted to come on here and squash it right away and say Becca I respect you I appreciate you
I think you're a great mother and I'm glad you're here and I hope we can get over this so we
can have a blast and talk about everything that's meaningful in life which is the bachelor
oh Ben I'm so down for it there's no beef here but I'm going to keep making fun of you
you keep coming on the bachelor let's introduce just food on the table kids got to put food on
game i get it i get it let's introduce just how did you guys get together for a podcast which
doesn't just talk about the bachelor right you talk about lots of things well it started because we were
like don't you hate ben higgins too yeah that's how it started yeah exactly well we could do this
we have this in common um it was just kind of a random thing because we actually didn't really know
each other very well at all. We knew each other through mutual friends. We were virtually
acquaintances and then we just both had the idea like, I want to do a podcast, you want to do a
podcast? We have good conversation. Let's try recording her. She got pregnant and I have a little one
and she's like literally one of the only people I knew in Los Angeles that was in a similar age range
to me. I was like, yeah, I'm 31. I'm still quite a bit older but I'm like, oh hi, you're not 40
with a child. Like let's talk, you know. And then it just kind of came from there. Yeah.
Yeah, and she has a, her husband is in the music industry.
So they had like a recording studio in their backyard.
Oh, cool.
So I was like, let's show up and let's just talk and record it and see what happens.
And then 14 months later?
Yeah, about.
14 months.
There we go.
Jess, were you always a bachelor fan?
Always a bachelor fan.
Mm-hmm.
I missed some seasons, but I started young.
I started watching with my mom first season.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, of course you missed a few seasons.
I missed a few here and there.
Boys distracted me the real life.
You know, it distracts me.
But back in business.
All right. So I want to go just chronologically through the episode. You guys watch. Oh boy.
All right. Three hours, but I said it was a speedy three hours. Yeah. It was a traumatizing three hours. I felt like I was at like a junior high girls lunch table throughout the whole episode. It was like, I mean, these girls are these girls are like catty like I've never seen. Yeah. They feel they start crap over things that I feel like that are ongoing crap over nothing.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Is it just me or I feel like this is the first in seasons that I've seen this kind of drama between the women. Like it's always something. I don't know.
It feels exhausting to me. It feels like I've seen about this this morning as I was prepping my notes here. And like you have this Peter who is laughing and like happy. And he felt like she was so excited to be there. And he's dancing around. He just wants everybody have fun. And it feels like as soon as he starts to.
a smile, it's like sends up the radar for anybody to run out and be like, hey, Peter,
let me ruin that a little bit. Like, let me just take it down a notch. Let me make this hard for
you. Yes. And that's how I feel every episode has been. This poor man's aged like 12 years and
three weeks. He's like, can I just say he's probably the most producible bachelor ever? He's so naive.
Yeah. I guess so. Cause Cole and kind of ran away from it. You know what? Colton was a
master game. I think he's such a good bachelor. I think he is too, but I definitely. He's so
sincere he's so naive well he is in the sense that he keeps saying like you guys know i believe this
works more than anyone and i'm like man you and your mom are like the most hardcore bachelor
fans ever we believe sweetie is just like 100% genuine and he's the most luminous human i've ever met
but completely naive there's this moment where he really shows his naivete in this episode but we'll talk
about when we get there so let's start let's start off with a lea drama so you know well i thought
last week he guaranteed a layo was going to stick around for another week with that rose
apparently that rose came to around for like 12 hours did not carry no one is safe with the rose
no apparently nobody is safe that was crazy to me has that rose ever been taken back before in our
memories i can't remember when but i do think it points like you say we can say all this things
about peter and i think peter's going to do great i would just continue to reassure him like this
is going to be great for you man all this is going to end well it's going to hurt for a while
but like you're going to end on a high note here i think what it points to is he's so confused
i know and he just wanted to not deal with it thought it was going to be the good decision then it
becomes a bad decision then he has to take it back and now he's lost again and i think we're what
we're seeing is we can watch it from tv and go i'm following the storyline i don't think peter
is following anything right now in his own head and i think he thought he was going to squash the
by getting her off again and then nope there's still more there's always hard oh yeah poor thing
i don't know if i said this on the podcast last week but he definitely thinks micro not macro he's like
what is going to be like good for me and her in this moment without thinking about how it's going
to work out for everyone in like the bigger like when he takes the girls aside and like asks them
or when he oh my it's later in the episode but when he brought up to kelsey like yeah so some girl said
you were mentally unstable, just wanted to check
in on that, and I'm like, emotionally unstable.
Why would you, like, you have no idea
the drama you're bringing upon yourself
when you're doing this, man.
Like, nobody's going to get defensive
when somebody calls you crazy.
Yeah, I hear you a little crazy.
Brush it off, no problem.
As something like you were an alcoholic and mentally unstable,
no big, just wanted to check with you on that,
on your perspective.
But I still see something here
progressing for it.
I think he really doesn't know what he's doing
when he, like, communicate.
with the women sometimes.
Yeah.
I feel bad.
Okay, so, but Alea.
Yeah, Alea.
So he lets her go and I felt bad for her.
I felt bad for her too.
I mean,
she was taking a beating man.
It was,
and we talked about this on our podcast
that we're not Alea fans.
Exactly.
But we think that,
I mean,
none of it was valid except
that they personally didn't like her.
Absolutely.
So that's what I keep saying.
She definitely wouldn't be friends
with Becca and I in the house.
Not our cup of tea.
But the thing is,
she never really did anything.
it was all hearsay and it was all just vibes.
And it was like, oh, I don't like her vibes.
Yeah.
And it was all personal.
Sydney, which we see again.
You know, Sydney is a good conniver.
You know why?
Because she, um, she hasn't done anything wrong.
And yet I'm still very worried about her.
Like, I'm worried I would not, she would worry me in the house.
Like she was going to try to get me into something without implicating herself.
Yeah, exactly.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know how to say it.
One eye open around Sydney and my opinion.
Truly, even here as a host on this podcast,
I don't know what to say to her.
I don't know what to say is like worrying me about her
because I'm a little afraid that I'll get myself in trouble
because I have nothing to go off of.
Well, because she goes on the attack.
And when she goes on the attack, she doesn't back down.
She is like, yeah, I don't know.
They found the right word to use.
The one word that's like not super offensive,
but yeah, we can look at it a couple different ways.
Princess?
No.
Mysterious.
Mysterious.
And then he tells, he calls her mysterious and she goes,
oh, I get told that all the time.
Yeah.
I know.
I think I'm so mysterious too, right?
I'm like, it's like, well, just nobody knows you, kid.
We're all just scared of you, that's all.
Just shake it up a bit.
Okay, here, let's organize our thoughts a little bit.
We've got to walk through this episode one time because we have to make a story at the end,
and I have a question for all of you, Ashley included, that I think, I've,
unlocked the key to trying to figure out how Peter gets better here and what happens.
We see a leg a home.
Peter cracks his head open.
The girls are fighting.
Sydney goes on a one-on-one day.
And then we're back at the house.
Kelsey is venting to Tammy.
Oh, boy.
And this really sets the tone for the rest of the episode.
This scene here is really the way that this rest, kind of the rest of the episode shakes out from.
When you see this, I know that you all have your opinions.
I'm going to let you take it over.
Ashley, I know you're saying that she's not crazy.
She's not drunk.
She has nothing to be ashamed of here.
How do you know I'm about to say that?
He apparently knows me too well in my interpretations of people in the episode.
Okay, well, you know what?
I was just about to say that.
So obviously I'm on Kelsey's side here.
I was the crier in the house, the very emotional person in the house,
and I couldn't stand being emotion shamed.
and she is like being emotion shamed like no other like i can't believe that she's crying like
really minding her own business and yeah sure maybe she had too much to drink but like is that also
a crime in the house no or anywhere no so then like Tammy makes it like she has a problem one a drinking
problem and then there's like the whole pill popping problem was oh my god what she she's seen at night
taking her like nightly birth control and like she's popping pills you know how that is oh my
my god that's so horrible but then um but like why would tammy if tammy really thinks this is a red
flag that she needs to bring up the peter because she's overly emotional are you kidding here's the
other issue this is the almost the bigger issue that i have with it one she doesn't own up with up to
it when kelsey says who said something and she just sits there minding her own business like
not owning up to it and secondly when kelsey finally confronts her about it like did you talk about
me she says she turns around says i'm concerned about you oh yeah b s that is such no no she says
i'm concerned about you but then later says my concerns about you are infringing on my relationship
with peter which both of those is trash i'm not giving my heart and headspace enough to peter i'm giving
it to you i was like mother effing stop yeah yeah i don't think i've ever seen you so impassioned
And the thing is, we were like, emotional, emotional, this emotional, shaming is where Ashley gets passionate.
I'm seeing it.
Yes.
It's just really, this is the thing I have at the girls'y seasons.
This season, they just keep bringing up stuff that's not, just shut your mouth.
It's all personal.
They're making it just personal.
Like, you don't like someone, so I'm going to go tell Peter that they're a bad person because of this reason, this reason, and that's reason.
And instead of just being like, yeah, just stay away from them in the house.
You don't need to be their best friend.
just like what also bothers me is they keep we we talked about that we were texting about this last night
they keep saying peter's not respecting us or we don't trust peter they are not respecting peter
because they did not respect his judgment with alea first of all which i always think trust the person's
judgment that they're going to figure out about this person's character i said okay of course we say that
and that tattling is always a bad look on the show but for peter not to make like that decision to take
on for himself that early on in the season was weird to me yes well then when he turned it
around and said like when he actually gave the rose back to her like i understand how they were
pissed because all of them wanted her gone but i was also like what he was asserting was i'm not going
to be swayed by petty drama and this is what i want and this is what my heart wants and i thought
that that was actually admirable of him i don't think he should have sent her home in the first
place if he didn't want to but like i thought it was even more wishy-washy than when he sent her home
after and then like I don't know and then and then they're also now still tattling about Kelsey
about her being emotionally unstable all this I'm like I'm sure he'll figure it out on his own
why is her crying affecting them it it's not they can't keep to themselves about other people's
business Ben the the thing when all of you there in the room are in committed relationships
and you've if you're not currently then you've been through them
don't know about you, but there's one thing that happened to me this week where I was watching
it and I was trying to mirror into my own life.
And I have a girlfriend now who it's a very healthy relationship.
And I've never, I was saying that I heard her intentionally like bring down somebody else
that's not in the room.
Like if she has a problem, she'll confront that person and say, hey, I don't understand
where you're coming from.
Like you don't make sense to me right now.
Like I want to understand this better.
but she would never come to me as her partner
and be like, that girl's crazy, she's a drunk.
Stay away from her.
Stay away from her.
She would never murder somebody's name like that.
Because she has a good character.
And if she did, it would be a red flag for me
because I know that's not making me a better person
and making me love people anymore.
So my point here is, if Peter has all these women coming to him
all the time bad-mouthing somebody else in the house,
at some point he has to look around and go,
there is not a woman here who could be my partner.
Totally.
Okay, well then, Ben, did any women come to you on your time as The Bachelor?
Talking about another.
Talking about another woman and you actually appreciated it.
Honestly, I know I'm going to get this wrong.
And one of the super fans out there will probably tell me my life more than I remember it.
I can't remember.
I don't think so.
There really was never, I mean, the one villain on my season was Olivia.
Yeah.
But Olivia wasn't like a villain.
She wasn't mean to the other.
bad person. She wasn't a bad person. One of the girls, I know one of the twins came to me at some point and said, hey, Olivia, like, Olivia, like, hurt me. And I remember her crying, but it was a big moment. That was maybe the only time. It wasn't Olivia sucks. It's, hey, Olivia hurt me. Which is different, yeah. Which is different. Like, I'm in pain. I need to talk about it with somebody outside of the girls. And I get that. Like, that's fine. She was confiding in me. But I don't remember that. Or I was thinking, like, Hannah Seeson with Luke. I think some of the guys came forward to her saying that, like, Luke is lying about this. And that.
And, like, if I was the lead and someone said, like, hey, this person is telling you this and they're directly lying and saying something completely different with us, I would want to know about that.
But just being like, we don't like her and we think she's fake or we think that she's emotional and be like, stop wasting my time.
Yeah.
If you find out that, like, someone has a boyfriend, like, please let me know.
But if you're like, she bothers me because, like, she wears too much perfume and her voice is too high, like, don't talk to me about it.
I just want to go about my way and choose who I'm going to choose.
Well, and he is kind of indulging in it, too.
which is a little bit part of the problem.
I know that I'm hypocritical here
because I've definitely come to people on the show
and been like, I don't like her.
I don't know how you like her.
Why did you do that, Ashley?
Because I get...
You did?
Yeah.
I don't remember that.
Yeah, you did.
But, well, I think there are different circumstances.
I think that it was more...
I don't...
Do I have to get into the past now?
How I want to know.
But just what was your thought process?
Um, it was, I guess it was kind of like what Kelly was saying, where it was like,
how can you like me and also like her at the same time?
We're completely different people.
What was Kelly saying about that?
Kelly said that on her one-on-one.
About who?
She like brought Hannah Ann out as an example, but she was like, don't make it a big deal.
She said, don't make it about Hannah Ann.
It's just like, like, how can you like a girl?
Different place.
Yeah.
So I think it was more like that.
I was like, how could you get along with like somebody like that and then also get along
with me and me also saying,
He's like, oh, because she's hot.
I think, I don't know.
Because then there's, like, the fake thing.
And I'm like, I'm all about, like, calling people out
from being fake, too.
And because that's because I think they're not being genuine
in the, in the circumstance that is The Bachelor.
I say weighted out, though.
Like, there's 13 girls.
He's going to start cutting.
Oh, no, totally.
I do think this is too early to be doing all of that.
It's like, once you get into the top, like,
six or seven or that kind of thing,
and then you're, like, seeing this,
their relationship really deep in
and maybe if there's some serious red flags.
there's so much to say about this episode well hey we do we have to move forward into the group
date the girls are doing a photo shoot with peter for cosmon paulin i'll start this conversation out
by saying there's never been a date more awkward in my opinion than this one here and i'll let you take
it from there horrible we are going to revisit kelsey though right we're definitely going to revisit
kelsey we'll have too much more to say so yeah there's um it's a weird date the cosmo day is
definitely like i would be oh god i like how cosmo is trying to rebrand too they're like
we're all about empowering women.
And, like, that's our mission.
I'm like, really?
Because I think it's just like 17 ways to suck as you know what.
I will say, no, no, Cosmo's different.
And yes, I do write for Cosmo, so I know I have to, I do have to defend them, though.
Because I feel like Cosmo has changed a lot over the past couple years.
That's good to hear.
To the fact that I even like, I'm like, where are those sex tips?
Like, I'm like, I need them now.
Where are they now?
I have to hunt for them.
I know.
And now I can't find them.
And now it's all about like doing.
great in your career and moving ahead
and beating the boys. I'm like, darn it!
Good, good. I'm like, I need the
other stuff as well, please. But I have questions.
Okay, so, yeah, they take
pictures.
It's just, it's, I felt like this date was... There's not much
substance to it. Like, there's not much
to talk about, except for the fact that it was like...
No one made a big deal about Victoria kissing him,
which I thought was interesting. I was going to say, yeah, we have to
stick on this, Jess. I'm with you here.
I feel like, I feel like this date was very
unbrand to the dynamic that's been going on.
Let's make it a competition about what girl gets to be on the cover of Cosmopolitan.
That's vicious.
That's the only group date competition I've ever truly wanted to win.
Yeah.
I don't care if it's football or like a relay race and obstacle course.
You don't want the $20,000 revolve clothing.
Oh, actually, that was a good one.
That wasn't bad.
But yeah.
Here's the thing, though.
I had one rule.
Really, like, I did a lot of things wrong during my time of The Bachelor.
I do tell anybody this is a good rule to keep if you're going to be the lead.
I had one rule that I stuck to.
Don't kiss any of the other contestants in front of the other contestants, ever.
Yep.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, no matter what the scenario, never do that.
That's what I'm saying.
He's like oblivious to the drama that he's inciting between the women.
Like, he's really, like, not aware of it.
And he was kissing the favorites.
So, like, of course it's going to spark issues.
Like, I don't know how you do that.
Which it surprisingly didn't that we saw.
It didn't.
It didn't.
I think he's just been doing it so often.
They're like, oh, this is part of the competition.
I guess so.
Normally it would be like, oh, I accidentally walked by that room while they were having their one-on-one time and they were kissing.
But nothing like on a podium.
Well, except for like, you know, Corin and Nick and that kind of thing.
But that was like sort of on brand.
Yeah.
So later at the cocktail hour, I love Natasha.
Natasha, doesn't she kill it?
She's just so funny because she's always, she's always just basically like F. Peter.
So.
I think anytime her and Peter have had a conversation, it's her confronting him.
I don't think it's ever been a conversation, not involving a confrontation.
Yeah, I know.
Right.
Talk about, like, talking about other people during your alone time.
Exactly.
But sometimes, I have to just say, sometimes, like, you don't know what the heck else to talk about
because you don't have any friends outside of this thing.
You'd have no commonalities, like, in front of you.
You're not like on a regular date where you can be like, this beer is good.
Like have you watch that show like on the TV.
Like there's a whole bunch of things that don't come up naturally.
And every, you know how you're like, I know this is random, but like on the show, everything is random.
Uh-huh.
Every conversation.
It's out of context.
Yeah.
Out of thin air.
That's so interesting.
I hadn't thought about that.
Yeah.
Oh, I'd fully spill all the teeth in.
Sure.
You're like, oh, thank God.
There's somebody we can talk about that we both know.
I would almost keep her around two just for accountability.
I almost feel like at this point, he's like,
I don't think you like me that much.
For whatever reason, you've stuck around.
Like, I'm going to keep you here because it keeps me a better person.
And then I both know where this is ending.
It's only better for you if you stick around a little while.
So like, let's make it work.
At this group date, Kelsey says that she's falling in love with him.
And Hannah Ann gets the group date rose.
He really feels like she's been giving 100%.
It's so funny because.
we couldn't stand to Hannah Ann at the beginning of this season.
And now she's pretty much the only one
that I have neutral to positive feelings about.
I would say my most neutral of feelings.
Yes.
Yes.
That's a really, don't just bypass that thought.
We will for the sake of this podcast for time,
but just mark that in your history of your life
and remember that as a season goes on,
that at one point you said the only one I can semi appreciate is hand.
Seriously.
honestly 100%
all right so then there's more Kelsey stuff
but we will that's where like the
Kelsey emotional
instability comes in but we'll
address that when she goes to have her one-on-one
time earlier in the episode so
the next date is
Kelly's date and I again
love Kelly because she is like
so to me real
she's just not going to giggle at things that aren't funny
she's also not that into him
she's not that into him but she was when they first met
that's for sure. I think that's why she's been kind of like spiraling. Like when she got the one on one date,
she's like, oh, shoot. Like, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, God. He's so awkward. Even when he asked her to accept
the rose, I feel like she would have been okay if he said, I'm actually not going to give it to you.
She's over it. I think she's been like, all these girls are fighting over this guy. And she's like,
yeah, he's cute and he's very, very sweet. But I, and I think that Peter is a smart guy and he's a
great conversationalist. And I'm not saying anything about his intelligence whatsoever. Um, but I think
that he she probably just wants somebody who will be like a little bit more cerebral well and he's naive like
you said yeah like she's not yeah like she wants to talk about law and politics and stuff like that and
I don't know if that's what he may want to talk about that but in demonstration of like how he is and
what he talks about with the other girls it doesn't like it doesn't come across to her probably like
he does because his conversations with the other girls are so classic bachelor from what we're seeing
it's like I'm feeling great about us are you feeling good about us oh that's awesome I'm
really like the way that like we're doing and like you're showing me like a beautiful heart and soul and
like I'm like uh that's why I loved watching their day because it was like oh this is the actual
conversation we are like going back and forth about our opinions mm-hmm I feel like sorry go ahead
then well I was just going to say let's too but as you start to share that thought here I want to
just preface this with with understanding where Kelly's coming from yes I don't love the fact that
she told him she's how mature she is you all listening know that's up describing yes
Yes, that drove me up the wall, and it was my first thing that really made me angry.
But I also get where she's coming from because we just kind of skipped over, which was good that we did.
But we have to bring it back now that we're talking about this.
There is a context here where Tammy and everybody's arguing, right?
And these girls are watching this.
Some girls are giggling.
Some girls, like, pull out their popcorn and are watching.
Other girls are, like, witnessing from afar.
This gets wild fast as Kelly sits there within it, as somebody that probably is a little more mature, is pretty smart.
like really smart and is going this is crazy i don't fit in here yeah yeah she definitely
doesn't fit in there no and i get where she's coming from when she does bring up like i'm not i don't
see myself being like any of these other girls so like do we have a future together is what you want
right and like maybe it's problematic if someone says that they're more mature if uh they're not
but she seems so clearly more mature like you're saying demonstrating that she's never getting
involved in any of the drama. We haven't seen her involved in any of it yet. And I'm sure she feels
like on an overwhelmed basis more mature day to day. I mean, I would never, I would also feel,
I don't know, I hope I haven't said that about myself. I would feel uncomfortable saying about
that myself, like, I'm very mature for my age. But you may have said it on your shoes. Maybe.
That's why when I say that, I'm like, oh, geez, as you were the young one, isn't it crazy?
But I've been attacked for it. So that's different. Isn't it crazy how at 23 you were, you were,
22 or 22 you were the young one now it's like the average age I know it's also that's the thing so
I'm sitting here watching it and I'm like oh I feel so mature for my age 25 26 and this is just such
it's just all dumb it's just all dumb it's just all dumb it just sucks they do so many of them suck
this season I'm sorry like they really screwed over Pete with this crop of women I really think so
they're really pretty I mean that's what every time like somebody says that like I get the response like
they're really pretty.
Or at least that's what I get from guys.
But I'm finding myself so much less
like attracted to them.
I thought that they were so physically attractive
and I'm finding them so much less physically
attractive as I'm watching this stuff play out.
I can understand that.
I don't find them as pretty as I did at the beginning.
I can understand that.
And Colton had a lot of young women,
but it wasn't the same kind of drama
or the level of it or the pettiness.
We've talked about many times in the podcast
just how as we get to know the contestants,
at first,
everybody's beautiful.
once you get to know more, their stories start to show
when you start to have your favorites.
Here's the thing, and we'll get into it in a second.
Right now, favorites aren't a plenty on this season.
When we come back, we're going to summarize the ending of the episode.
That's definitely wild and crazy.
We're also going to talk favorites.
I have a question for these three that I think might help us understand Peter a little bit better.
But let's take a break and come back.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and,
they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor.
And I'm Drew Phillips.
And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Oh my God, perfect.
And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.
Yes, yes.
Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
Open your free IHeartRadio app.
Search Emergency Intercom and listen now.
The Super Secret Festi Club podcast Season 4 is here.
And we're locked in.
That means more juicy cheeseman.
Terrible love advice
Evil spells to cast on your ex
No, no, no, no, we're not doing that this season
Oh, well, this season we're leveling up
Each episode will feature a special bestie
And you're not going to want to miss it
Get in here!
Today we have a very special guest with us
Our new super secret bestie
is The diva of the people.
The diva of the people
I'm just like text your ex.
My theory is that if you need to figure out
that the stove is hot, go and touch it.
Go and figure it out for yourself.
Okay.
That's us.
That's us.
My name is Curley.
And I'm Maya.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heartbreaks, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets.
Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of.
self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a
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Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing.
Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomper podcast
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My name is Ed.
Everyone say hello, Ed.
I'm from a very rural background myself.
My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin.
What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago.
I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.
The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
And then he came to my house.
So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
Available now.
Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Okay, so here's the scenario.
Everything's chaos, riots are ensuing, Peter's confused.
Cars are being flipped.
Cars are being flipped and glasses are being slammed into our faces.
And now we get to this point in the episode where Kelly's one-on-one happens and it goes well.
We like Kelly.
We don't know if there's anything there for them.
And we get back to the end, Kelsey sneaks over to the house.
They have a really good conversation.
I'm just going to summarize this quickly.
They have a great conversation.
I felt like she was open and honest with him,
which is what you want in a relationship.
He responded well.
They have a great time.
But it brings about drama that we need to talk about.
And this is where my question for you three come in.
And then I'm going to let you loose here.
So we know that chaos has happened this season.
We know there's a lot of little fire starters that are talking about everybody else.
So what you would think to do as the lead would be to cut off the drama at the root.
totally so are you referring to roses is that a great like little oh i like that wow here's my question
for you three not intended where do you cut off the drama this season if you're peter and
everything's chaos around you no wonder he cancels the cocktail party because he can't probably
take any more of it where do you cut off the drama it's unclear to me i want to hear from you i think it's
In his position, I don't think it'd be clear to him.
But me watching, I know exactly who.
Where?
Are we going to say him?
He's the one that starts at all.
Just remove yourself from the season.
Lo-key.
I'm gone, guys.
I suck it in this.
I'm out.
Because in Barb, in that conversation,
he was the one that started up the drama by being
producible and naive,
by extending Kelsey the Rose in that moment,
not seeing that it,
by doing so, that was going to create far more drama
than if he were to just hold back
and give her the rose a couple hours later.
Because sure, he may have been thinking in that moment,
oh, what a relief.
She's gonna be able to go into tonight, just chill, relax.
It's a great feeling.
It is a great feeling going into a rose ceremony
with a rose.
I never did it.
Seems like a great feeling.
But she would have been far more.
When she came back to the house,
she's just holding it like, yeah.
really old enough. It's like she would have been far more relaxed if she didn't have to come back
and she could have had the sense of their conversation meant that she was through another week
and she wouldn't have to explain to the other girls that she got a rose early because she went
over there. She was rewarded for going over there. It's true. It's very true. It's true. It's actually
quite a good point. Yeah. I see the, I'm seeing a little trio of a little, of a little catty,
catty junior high girl kind of trio going on and it's looking like Victoria Pee, Sydney,
and Victoria F.
Wow.
I'm not sure if I put Victoria F in there.
I don't know about V.
I want to hear your thought.
I want to hear your thoughts.
This is why I think Victoria F is a huge red flag
because virtually every time they have a conversation,
I actually, so you know when they had a one-on-one talk this time
and she was like, you forgot my birthday.
Yeah.
I thought she was going to do the thing she does every time
where she runs into the corner, says that she's going to
threaten to leave until he begs her to stay and says they have a connection.
I half expected her to do that.
Every single time, it's always a thing.
of like, but I'm ruining this for you.
Or like, but I can't do this.
And then, oh, wait, actually, I'm amazing at this.
Like, that's how she is.
Like, during the photo shoot.
Two weeks ago, she couldn't get on stage during the, like, you know,
she was so nervous and so shy.
And now she's like, I am in a sports illustrator.
She's on a Cosmo cover now.
Yes.
And with the heights thing.
And then how she blew the, in my opinion,
blew the chase thing so out of proportion.
She just always seems like a little bit.
like playing this manipulative game where it's like I'm gonna go and then he's like
no don't she's like okay mm-hmm that would get me too though Becca I'm telling you
right now I think it works yeah I think it works oh I would be all about it I'd be like no please
stay girl I'll do whatever you need so great having a males perspective see I think it
totally would work but I am seeing that as manipulative even when you just did that thing you just
did when you're like I'm not good at this and you threw your arms up there a second ago I'm good
I was like, oh, wow, I've never found Becca Moore's like.
I'm overcoming, and that's kind of like her thing.
And then Victoria P, I mean, he's not addressing how she, I don't know.
No, I don't trust Victoria, me as well.
First of all, there's the Alleya thing.
Second, in this situation now, Victoria P is now admittedly the one who brought up the pill popping.
And for some reason, she's able to cross her arms and be like, well, I admitted it.
So now I don't take any fault.
And everyone just lets, she gets away with everything.
Because her truth is her truth, Jess.
I appreciate that about her.
And then, of course, Sydney is just always, like, on the attack, super, like, aggressive
in people's faces.
Like, she is, like, yelling in people's faces.
And when she confess, when she decides to tell Tammy, like, I would never consider talking
about other girls to Peter.
And it's like, where were you?
Like, three days ago, what were you doing?
And so, Tammy says that back to her.
Tammy was the starter with the Alleyas stuff.
She started everything.
There's a lot of amnesia happening.
this season. It's like, I remember
like last week, Peter said Kelsey
was like so drama free and
low key and we're like, Peter, do you remember Champaign
Gate? Yeah, I know. Well, that was
really, I still think it's really weird that he has
so, it's a tense relationship
with Kelsey, but like doesn't remember how
like, apparently she was a bully a couple
weeks ago and he was so disturbed by the bully
accusation. I still can't get over this.
Well, so then Tammy throws it back at
Sydney and it was like, you
started the Alea stuff. And then
and then Sydney just
totally deflects and she's like this is crazy you're crazy she is nuts this is crazy and it's like
whoa okay I thought that they were going to make it like I thought they were going to actually
show no support for Kelsey this this episode I thought like all the girls were going to be like
against Kelsey and I was so relieved they had talked a bunch of crap on her behind her back before
yeah but I was so relieved to see them turn on Tammy because Tammy really was the root of this problem
Yeah, she was.
Just even though.
Here's a thing, though.
Drama, like, we were talking about drama.
Kelsey last week was the least dramatic, but the, like, it's all in comparison.
It's the environment you're living in.
Like, if everybody's dramatic and you just say a few things that cause a fight, right now you're looking pretty good.
Like, this is a pretty easy season to make it to the end.
Well, look at Maddie.
Maddie hasn't said a word.
Same with Hannah Ann.
Hannah Ann has been really good, too, and then Kelly's the other one.
one who hasn't really touched anything.
Kelly's like, has her bagpacks.
She's ready to dip in any second coat.
She's like, I'm out.
I know.
Hey, Jess, we didn't hear from you.
I really want to know who you would cut off at the root.
I mean, same as Becca.
To me, it's Victoria P. and Sydney for sure right now.
Those are the two.
He's not going to see the Sydney thing for,
I don't think he's ever,
I don't think he's going to see the Sydney thing.
The Sydney thing, like I said,
she makes me very nervous.
She makes me a little, she scares me a little bit.
Me too, but she's the girl that, like,
scares you and you're like,
I don't think I'm going to go after her
because I think she's going to win the argument,
even though I don't know how she's going to win the argument,
she's going to.
Oh, I would destroy her.
It's Sydney, but it's Sydney.
I would love to see that.
I would love to see that.
But Sydney and Victoria P. are the two to me
that I'm just, like, baffled every episode
who caused drama and somehow get away with everything.
And the thing with Kelsey, which I appreciate,
is though, yes, there is drama.
Everyone in the house seems to like her
because they forget about the drama quickly.
She just hasn't done anything to anyone else.
Right.
The only time she talked crap was with Hannah Ann and the whole champagne bottle, which, you know, that was a little bit of an exaggeration.
But whatever.
And before we move on from Kelsey, I have in my notes, I just want to be clear as the spokesperson for the crying girls.
Emotional doesn't mean insecure.
Emotional doesn't mean that you're emotionally unstable.
It doesn't mean that you're having an emotional breakdown when you're crying.
Even if you're crying every day in an environment, even an environment like The Bachelor, I think it's perfectly normal.
cry every day. I was crying a lot. Yeah.
Are you talking about when Victoria F
called her out and said this is a show for
secure women, so like figure it out?
Oh, she did say that. Yeah. Oh, that was
bad. And then
like being emotional doesn't mean that you're
nuts.
Drink it, you can't call, don't call her out
on a drinking problem. You have absolutely no
idea whether she has or doesn't have.
No, that was way out of line.
Her emotions are not
infringing on anybody else's relationship
with Peter. And
And that's basically all I have to say.
There was a moment, and it reminded me a lot of one week that I had in The Bachelor.
And it was the same week.
It was week five.
She was like, you guys think that I'm the crazy one here for crying?
Why the hell aren't you crying?
You guys are being ridiculous for not crying.
I was like, I don't believe you guys like him if you're not this emotional.
And the Jets said that she was like, I actually believe.
I said, I think the only two people who are actually like really in love with Peter are McKenna and Kelsey at this point.
Probably right. Those are the two, I believe.
Kelsey hasn't talked to him yet, but she loves with him wholeheartedly.
Kelsey was so honest, like when Tammy said, like, did you talk about me?
And Kelsey was honest.
Kelsey said, yes, I brought up and I said that you said this and this, but that's all I said.
And she was truthful when confronted about it.
I really don't love this part.
And team, we're going to get into your podcast here at the very end.
So stick with us here.
But I really want your honest feedback here.
All this is fun in games.
This whole show is.
fun in games. It can work. I think we all agree. Like, hey, this could possibly work. We,
you know, we have a successful relationship sitting in the room from it. But you have to be
really careful on the show. And I wish people would take this responsibility when they get
casted for questioning somebody's character and saying something that could last with him
outside of the show. When you're in the show, you know, do your thing. They get mad at each other,
argue whatever little tips, little fights. But the pill popping part, I don't understand to me
why this wasn't a bigger deal for everybody stop in the room and go timeout.
Yeah.
This is a conversation and a serious conversation for us as we're just spouting it off
when we're sitting at a cocktail party about somebody having a pill addiction
that we're just going to pass over and argue about.
Like how did nobody step up and go, time out, guys, this is a big deal.
Like this could really hurt somebody for a long time.
And she doesn't have to disclose her Adderall prescription,
which she was also talking about.
I'm surprised.
And I'm like, that is really private information.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, no, that was a really serious moment for me.
Like, that was, I was watching this.
I was saying, this is all funny.
I'm laughing up until this point.
And now somebody's back there going, yeah, I just said she had a pill addiction because I said, I saw her taking some pills.
I know.
It's so crazy.
You should have seen the drugstore that I have.
For, but not for emotional stuff, right, Ash.
No, not at all.
No, I mean, it's true.
Like, this is sad.
And from somebody.
For me personally, who have, who has struggled with pills in their life at different points in times, like that to me was like, you got to be like this is this is not funny anymore.
No.
And but then then it gets funny again.
So then it gets out of it because then it kind of moves on to whatever else they're arguing about.
And I do want to just highlight and say everybody should go watch this up is going to again rewind it to this point.
You have like three girls.
I don't know their names at this point that are sitting on the couch.
like in the back with their eyes wide open just watching this go down and I know these moments
and I would love for the people that have been on the show and Jess for you they love this show
to speak to this. Those moments were like everybody wonders how edited this is. These are
the moments that cannot be edited. This is beautiful. Yeah, that was fun. It was fun to say
their reactions. It's so true. And also it's like I don't know why people think it has to all be so
produced. It's like look this season is a perfect example. Throw like 20 girls in a room. Throw in some
alcohol with it and like boom just stand back and let the fire let the fire blow out of control oh yeah
absolutely so let's talk about the rose ceremonies the cocktail party was canceled um which is the
perfect time you know perfect scenario for a rose ceremony for a rose ceremony cocktail party to be
canceled and Tammy can't um so she interrupts and says can i talk to you she says from what we saw
very inconsequential stuff.
Right.
McKenna interrupts also.
I didn't even really take note of it.
I was like this is not saying.
No, she didn't say anything.
Well, what I think is like, what we said before, what we noticed in the beginning is it seems like, like, you know how on the first episode, a lot of times the bachelor will just cut the people they didn't talk to.
Like, you know, they're like, I didn't get a chance to talk to her.
So she's going home.
Peter did the opposite where it's like he actually kept all the girls like the first night who he didn't talk to.
And so it seems like now this time, it's.
It seems like if he has any, like, feelings at all, and he still feels like he needs to test it out, he's going to give that person a chance.
And I think maybe that's what happened with Tammy.
Like, you wanted to see her side of the story.
Because he sent home Shan and Lexi, and it doesn't seem like he had a killer connection with the two of them.
There's never been any mentionable moments for them.
Yeah.
And I guess, like, he and Tammy have kind of had some fun moments.
So that's probably where he was like, okay, I know there's no hope there.
So we'll just move on from them.
That seems to be more of his MO.
I also wonder, too, if, like, at some point, he's, he's, he's.
smart enough to go, I'm so confused right now. Everything's so chaotic. I'm not getting clear
answers from anybody. At least Tammy's like trying to like talk to me about stuff. Like yeah, it's
not pretty. She's probably not the one for me. This is not getting any better. But at least she's
trying to communicate with me where some of these other women aren't at all. Even though only
communication is bad mouthing other people. That's not good either. Yeah. Question for you guys.
Do you think that those conversations that he was pulled aside for did anything in changing
his mind, or do we think that that was the roster he was going to keep?
I don't think it changed his mind.
I don't think it did either. No. I'm going to agree with that.
They were just, they were all as in, like you said, inconsequential conversations.
Yeah. And really time wasting. Yeah. I mean, maybe they were longer. Maybe they did come
across as being very short, but I think he kind of already had his mind made up for sure.
I bet they were really short. You think about how awkward this is. He's sitting like 15 foot away from the women.
they're standing up there for god knows how long at this point they're all a little anxious and
ready to get out of there like he's probably going to keep those really really really short hey
team i'm going to go around the circle here we'll start with jess and end with ashley
thoughts so far on the season we'll keep this short and concise thoughts on the season thoughts on
this last episode and then we're going to take a break and we'll come back and talk all about
chatty broads uh with becca and jess so jess um thoughts on the season thoughts
in this episode?
I think this season is a hot mess, but I love it.
And I do really, really love Peter.
I think he's a really genuine guy.
And I feel for him because I feel like it's going to just keep getting messier.
Who's your favorite?
Do you have favorites right now?
I mean, I thought I did.
But at this point, people who weren't my favorites are starting to emerge like Hannah Ann.
And God, I just hope McKenna gets a one-on-one next week.
Give the girl a one-on-one.
And look like she does.
Give the girl a one-on-one.
you know I love hate this season because I think it's crazy but it's also sometimes like this episode is really infuriating for me to watch and kind of like triggering when I was watching some of like Tammy was doing some gaslighting Sydney was doing this whole deflecting thing and it was just like frustrating I wanted to be there and be like no I want to see you be there
I want to be like no you need to be held accountable owed up to it like there's that kind of thing that's just really grinding my gears and frustrated me
There's been a lot of injustice this season
that's really bothered me.
That being said...
Who's getting the wrong to the deal then?
If you're speaking injustice, who's giddy?
I felt like Alleya did.
She's already gone.
And then now I just feel like there's injustice
with women staying that I don't think should be staying
who are being consistently rewarded for behavior that is bad.
Yeah.
And, yeah, so that's frustrating.
And then I think that maybe...
I'm kind of wondering, like,
what if Hannah Ann takes it all the way?
I don't know.
and then I see Madison being the Bachelorette.
Yeah, for sure.
We are actually totally unspoiled.
But they're not really giving us much of Madison now.
We don't really know much about her.
She'll come back around once all the drama's gone.
Okay.
In like top six or whatever.
But then again, I don't know because with all these super teases looking super crazy like
at the very end it seems, maybe it's like one of the bad girls goes all the way.
I don't know, but I can't wait to see.
My opinion is that it's been a really good season.
from a viewer's perspective because it's been so dramatic,
but I also don't think that Peter's going to find his wife in this bunch.
And if he does, I think it might be, it would be Maddie.
Yeah, because that's like, I feel like he's been blinded by a lot of beauty, a lot of sexuality.
I don't know how deep he's getting with some of these girls.
Or he's being, yeah, I think he's getting like a little blinded by it.
Out of all the bachelors to have to deal with this, I do feel bad.
Me too.
I really think he just wants his wife.
I know.
I really see this Weber.
I know, I know.
He really wants his Mrs. Weber.
I know he wants his Mrs. Weber.
And before this whole thing started, I knew he wanted that.
And I do think that's why I think he's starting to catch up with it.
But I really do think he walked into this season, naive.
He had a fairy tale like perspective of what this could be like.
He wanted everybody have such a good time that he thought everybody was going to get along.
And that changed quickly.
But hey, it is The Bachelor.
Listeners, we're going to take a break.
And when we come back, Chattie Broads is a podcast that we've got to talk about with two of our very special guests who just broke down the whole episode with us.
Thank you for that.
We'll come back with Becca and Jess here in just a second.
My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Oh, wait a minute, Sam.
Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast.
So we'll find out soon.
This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot.
He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Now, hold up.
Isn't that against school policy?
That sounds totally inappropriate.
Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age.
And it's even more likely that they're cheating.
He insists there's nothing between them.
I mean, do you believe him?
Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend,
and really cheated with his professor or not.
To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor.
And I'm Drew Phillips.
And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.
If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
But if you have unmedicated ADHD, ADHD...
Oh my God, perfect.
And want to hear people with mental illness.
Psychobabble
Yes, yes
Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you
Open your free IHeartRadio app
Search Emergency Intercom
And listen now
The Super Secret Bestie Club
Podcast Season 4 is here
And we're locked in
That means more juicy cheesement
Terrible love advice
Evil spells to cast on your ex
No, no, no, no, we're not doing that this season
Oh, well this season we're leveling up
Each episode will feature a special bestie
And you're not gonna want to miss it
Get in here!
Today we have a very special guest with us.
Our new super secret bestie is The Deepa of the People.
The Deep of the People.
I'm just like text your ex.
My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot,
go and touch it.
Go and figure it out for yourself.
Okay.
That's us.
That's us.
My name is Curley.
And I'm Maya.
In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men,
and, of course, our favorite secrets.
Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club
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My name is Ed.
Everyone say, hello, Ed.
I'm from a very rural background myself.
My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin.
So, like, it's not...
What do you get when a true crime producer
walks into a comedy club?
I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke,
but that really was my reality nine years ago.
I just normally do straight stand-up,
this is a bit different.
On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.
The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
And then he came to my house.
So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes Interstate.
Available now.
Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection.
Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?
Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?
Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time?
I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is.
I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.
Join me for conversations about healing and growth.
Life is freaking hard.
And growth doesn't happen in comfort.
It happens in motion, even when you're hurting.
All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen.
Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing.
Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcumper podcast
as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeart Radio,
app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Chattie Broads with Becca and Jess is all about balance.
They chat all about The Bachelor reality TV and spill the tea half the week.
The other half of the week they discuss topics transparently like sexuality, spirituality,
relationships, motherhood, mental health, and so much more.
Episodes come out every Tuesday and Thursday.
And you, yes, you can hear from the host yourself.
right now. Hey, Jess and Becca, tell us about Chetty Broads. First of all, you're such a good
MC, Ben. I know. He's so good. I'm coming back on the Bachelor. I know. What a host.
Oh, I like, I'm like, you take all the intros and outros. So good at it. So good.
Impressive. No wonder I come back on The Bachelor. That's a good point.
No wonder why he's hosting Bachelor Live. Yeah, seriously. I'm actually really curious for how
that's going. But enough about you. More about us.
Yes. What was the question? So like, tell us about this. So I'm, we obviously just
broke down the episode you're great at that and we understand that about you too you're going to
talk pop culture and all those i really want to know about the sexuality spirituality and relationships
mental health part of this the stuff that's real the stuff that your fans are listening to for an
escape and a place to feel less alone i imagine you two do that well but i want to hear how you walk into
those conversations and why you two as hosts are worthy to be listened to honestly i mean i feel like
i'll sell us um i do feel like beck and i are really
We've made a commitment to be as vulnerable as possible.
Like, you're going to get the honest opinion and the honest truth about both of us.
Like, we're going to tell stories about ourselves that are not flattering and we'll be honest about it.
And I think because of that, we've been able to really connect with our listeners on topics like sexuality.
When we're having a rough go, we'll talk about it.
On motherhood, we're talking about how it's not easy, how it's tough.
I've shared a lot about some of my mental health struggles.
And I think a lot of our listeners have been able to feel connected that way because they don't feel alone, hearing us.
talk about our struggles pretty openly. And also like a lot of the topics happen to be topics that a lot of
people can relate to. We both come from super conservative evangelical backgrounds. Both of us were
homeschooled at one point and, you know, it's something that we really connected on and talked a lot
through the podcast. And the cool thing about the podcast is that we've gotten to know each other
while recording it, which means that our listeners have joined in as we've developed our friendship
and have kind of been a part of that friendship as it's evolved. But yeah, navigating that and
just navigating the things we don't know, navigating our relationships with our respective husband
and boyfriend and navigating our identity alongside personal identity alongside motherhood,
navigating our belief systems. And then also it's like, you know, every once in a while
we'll have like a quote, big guest. But a lot of the times people are having on are just people
that were interested in hearing from experts and stuff that we're curious about. And even just
some of our listeners coming on to share their stories.
And so I think we've created a pretty cool, diverse community in our little chatty
broads podcast world.
That is so cool.
And can I say how much you educate me back on your Instagram?
Thank you.
Is she so good at that?
Is she so good?
I have become so much more like environmentally mental.
That started with the podcast.
Thank you.
Conscious.
Started with the podcast.
We had a friend on a podcast who was just really broke down a lot of stuff that I had
never even thought of and that kind of kicked me off on like my journey but like that's the cool thing about
our podcast that we are learning so much and then get to share that with other people yeah it's really
inspired me personally just us having the podcast your compost pile and um all the love it the less trash
you have this week i've been like oh man i can't i can't i can't believe how much trash jared and i
accumulate as just two people living in a house hey but the awareness is like that's the first place
Like once you start realizing it, then, you know, whether it's changed now or like two years
from now, it's something you start thinking about. Like even paper towels, like, I'll like try to
keep one on the counter. Like if I just wipe something up really quick and it's totally not
fully absorbed, I'll just keep it there for the next time I spill it or something. Yeah. It's like
small things like that. Once it starts coming into your awareness is so important. That's really
cool. So thanks, Becca. Thanks for telling me that. Yeah. No, you really, there's many things that I've
learned from your Instagram. Thank you. And which I knew came from the podcast, which is why I bring
it up because those are the kind of things that I know you guys do talk about. Yeah.
The, uh, there's this interesting trend and I was just speaking about it at a workshop I,
I spoke at this last week. And there's this trend and vulnerability that is coming out.
And it's awesome, right? I mean, vulnerability has been something that we've always claimed we've
been a part of. But, you know, we're learning more and more what we've been suppressed by.
And as a Christian myself, I get the whole, like I come from a conservative evangelical upbringing.
I understand what you're saying when you, we talk about that. Yeah. The sexual.
sexuality part of this is really interesting. And the part of the workshop I was doing was talking about this, the new show on Netflix with Gwyneth Paltrow on the Goop. And they knew this whole thing where they bring a bunch of women into the room and they all get naked. And the whole purpose of this is to help everybody know that they're not alone. That when they look at their bodies and they say, oh, this is a weird thing growing off of this or is, you know, are my parts all looking like other women's or if they don't look like other women's in my abnormal or whatever that is. And they show this whole thing and it's beautiful because you have women.
for the first time and sometimes 50, 60 years breaking down going, I've always thought there
was something wrong with me. And now I'm realizing that there never was. For you all, I will send
off with this. This has been something I, like, this is something I don't want to say I'm passionate about
because it makes it sound like I'm an expert. And I just like, I listen to those stories and you
want to break me down. Tell me somebody's 60 years old and just finding themselves for the first time.
Seriously. Yeah. Oh, I have chills. How heavy is that? And just like, but also how beautiful is that?
So thank you to Becca and Jess for chatting about everything that matters and helping people feel less alone.
I think no matter what you're upbringing, no matter where you come from what your religious belief system, no matter if you believe in God or not, I personally believe as a Christian that if we can feel less alone, we're doing something really right.
That's beautiful.
That is beautiful.
So thank you guys.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
And Becca, we can't let you go without talking about the fact that you're pregnant.
And we also are so real about pregnancy and all those struggles that go along with it.
don't they don't do like the whole like it's like a mommy blogger thing where everything just seems
perfect sometimes i wish i could be like that but it just doesn't work out for me but everybody
loves the real thank you yes so what do you do june i feel like i'm always pregnant now this is like
it's almost like it's almost been two years since i've been drunk oh i know i can't wait so i've
just been achin to go out with her i know it's so rough but it's cool it's a new season and uh one
where I'm learning so much about myself and I love a good challenge. So being a mom is a pretty
cool challenge and I don't know. Just it's illuminated so many different aspects of myself that I
didn't know existed and that's been really cool. And I'm going to state right now where I'm just very
like chill and mellow and fine with just being like a recluse and just I don't know. It's a new
aspect and dynamic of my relationship of my, yeah, I guess my relationship with myself and my personality
that I hadn't explored before.
As somebody who will end up trying to get pregnant
within the next 12 months.
Oh, wow.
Big and hell, then dropped it.
I mean, it's not that much of a secret.
I'm turning 32 next month.
Do you have to come off Spirno Lacton?
Yeah, I got to get up Spirnalactone.
Hey, I got it.
I got something for you for that.
I need you to help me so bad with my skin.
We'll talk about it later.
We could do a whole podcast about pregnancy skin
on one of our other podcasts.
My pregnancy skin was horrible.
Your skin looks amazing.
right now.
Right now.
Ashley, where are you getting at?
Okay.
Give me some words of encouragement because like so often I just get like, so many people tell
us to wait.
Like so many parents tell us like, well, you know, there's some people who are like, don't
wait too long because you know you need like, you know, the youth.
But then there's some, a lot of people come up and be like, oh wait as long as you can.
And I'll be like, oh God, why?
Why?
Well, welcome to LA.
Okay.
Yeah.
First of all. Also, Jess and I both had unplanned pregnancies in
very different scenarios her married and on birth control getting pregnant yeah oh yeah yeah that's a whole other
that's a whole other story swimmers yeah for sure wow and then yeah my story which is very different but
but you tried this time to get pregnant no oh I thought it was planned oh no oh that's okay you're fertile
woman nothing's planned in my life anymore you know but but we did I mean we had had conversations about
wanting to have more children and so it wasn't like like it just was it was a different
scenario and we're very excited and happy and it was very like oh well weren't expecting that but
how exciting and i guess it's going to happen now versus like a year or two from now yeah um i think that
you know people always have advice on how you should do things and don't listen to end okay i mean not to
any of it take it with a grain of salt for the people that care about you and have a lot of wisdom but also like
i think jess can agree i mean it's such a cliche that there's no perfect time to be a parent yeah
but there's no perfect time to be parent.
You're never going to know all the things.
You're never going to be like in the perfect financial state.
It's not as scary as people make it seem.
No, not at all.
I mean, I know like the first like week of finding out that I was surprised pregnant,
I cried for a week just because it wasn't,
it was just out of my control, right?
And I'm a control freak.
So that like wigged me out.
But just like Becca was saying,
it just feels like like every individual is different.
Every pregnancy is different.
Every parenthood, like journey is different.
So when someone says a definitive, you know, you should get pregnant at this point or that's too late or too early or you should do this or that.
It's just also different.
You've been in a place where you're wanting to like consider, be so considerate and like make the very best choice.
That means that you're ready to parent, right?
You're like, I mean, you see.
I think you guys.
Yeah, do it.
I'm always like, hey, this, baby.
Sighty.
To hear all of these kind of topics and many more.
Jess and Becca, where can they find the chatty broads podcast?
Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere podcasts are located. Spotify, Up Podcasts, all that.
Jess, Becca, thank you for coming on our podcast today. The Almost Famous Podcasts
welcomes you. Thanks for everything you did for us and breaking down the episode.
Listeners, please go check out the Chetty Broad's podcast everywhere. And when I say everywhere,
I guess everywhere you can listen to podcasts. Becca and Jess, thanks a lot.
The Bachelor Live on stage is about to hit the road and visit your home.
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I can't give it all away, but you may see a little special number that Becca and I have been practicing,
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If you haven't gotten your tickets yet to come hang out with me, Becca, and some special guests along
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Should probably get some of that for Jared because truly know a better way to show my love for him than giving him donuts.
And as he calls them, donut, a donut.
He doesn't say donut.
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Big thanks to Becca and Jess for coming on our podcast.
Ashley, you're right.
They're really good at breaking down the episode.
Yes.
They're great.
That was fun.
That was a lot of fun.
They have good perspective.
They're also funny.
And I feel like Becca likes me now.
She does.
That was definitely just like, that's her just being honest and like, you know, that's
like what I wish we could do more of.
It is be like, we could talk a little smack, but like we don't mean it in our hearts.
You know, we mean it like as far as like, just, you know.
That was a big moment for us.
All you listeners out there, I just made a new friend.
today and you heard it. It was nice. It makes me feel
I'm going to bed, rest and easy tonight. Do you want to
go through some emails? Yeah, let's do
it. We only really got one. There's like one
that you want to address. Yeah, I think
it's funny, right? Let's do the one email here.
It's from Natalie. It's called
TikTok. She says, I became
famous on TikTok because of you.
When she says you,
she means us. She means
you. Oh, really? Yeah, I think so.
This has 35,000 views in two hours.
So thank you for letting me know, Peter
was in a commercial oh yeah it was me i love you guys both and listening to your insight on all the
bachelor episodes hey natalie hey fame fame is a is a burden not worthy to be carried but we're glad
that you're carrying it for a bit um thanks for sending us in the email actually this has been a fun
podcast uh it's here's how i want to close this though okay okay what and i said at the beginning
but i want to put a little emphasis on this this season has not been that fun for me it's more
It has been more fun than past Bachelor seasons that we've been a part of.
We've talked very openly about it's been years since we've really been able to get into
a Bachelor season.
We couldn't necessarily figure out why.
This season kind of felt like that.
But this week, and I get why there's, you know, this episode, five was so big.
I can't wait for this next big episode to come out.
This week was the first week where I'm on the edge of my seat going, I cannot wait to watch more.
Yeah, I'd love me wanting more, so much more that I don't mind that we have another two hours
this week. Wednesday night, there will be another episode of The Bachelor, and we will be here
right after the show. So, you know, 8 o'clock, it's, wait, it's 11 o'clock. If you want to listen to,
and after the episode airs, we will be here talking about it on Wednesday late night.
It's going to be a late night. Hey, Ashley, one question we haven't done yet this year, and I think
it's time to start doing it. We started with Colton about this week, and we're going to start
with Peter about this week a scale of a to F what are you rating Peter as the bachelor that's this
involves performance this involves um likeability it involves handling of controversy this
involves just swag like everything as a bachelor when you look at him a to F you gave him a B plus
a couple weeks ago I think that was like week two um I think that he's a B okay I would agree I think
that he like has the potential of being an A and he's like everything that a that a
girl probably wants, but I just think it's the way that he's, like, not realizing that so many
of his moves create more drama. Yeah, the one thing I give him a B on, and I don't think he can
go much farther than a B, and this is why, in my opinion, like, he's always going to be
likable. Like, we're always going to cheer for him. Unlike some past bachelors, we've been like,
oh, this is just annoying to watch him. Like, this is just terrible. Like, he's driving me up the
wall. He's, like, there's been no points this season that I've watched Peter and been like, I just
don't like that guy. Oh yeah. There's like nothing unlikable about him. He's so likable. He's
100% likable. Yeah. Hey, we'll stick with a beef right now. I have a feeling he'll go up in our
page. Ashley, you're great. We'll talk soon. We'll talk in like a day, it feels like two days
after another three-hour episode of The Bachelor. With that, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley.
Bye guys. See you Wednesday night.
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