The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Date Jana Kramer's Best Friend

Episode Date: April 19, 2025

Jana Kramer is trying to find a match for her single real-life bestie Pamelyn! A divorced mom of two, Pamelyn lives in the Nashville area. Do you have a friend, a brother, an uncle, maybe even your ex or your dad who is single and ready to mingle??!!Jana gets the full story on Pamelyn's divorce - and why she even kept Jana in the dark till it was all over. Then, it’s on! Let’s find Pamelyn her I do part 2!Email us at: [e-mail] or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.

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The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh.

Well, this season, we're level. up. Each episode will feature a special bestie and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. Get in here. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to I do. Part two. I'm one of your host, Jana Kramer. And today is a very exciting episode because we talk a lot about celebrities and what's going on in their lives. But today I wanted to bring in my own real life, regular divorce, single friend who's amazing and open to finding

love. So everyone welcome Pamelin onto the podcast. So I'm just so excited about this for a few reasons. One because, I mean, look, I love, I love doing the show when I'm able to, to come on and interview people, but, and this is no offense, like, to the, the bachelorette people out there, the models. I mean, we love Kelly Bensamom. We love her. I mean, she's a, she's a beautiful, stunning model, and, you know, she's going through her, her journey of, you know, being divorced and finding love. And we've got bacheloretts and bachelorette, you know, so it's like, love all of them. Sure. But I had this thought when we, I mean, you're my best friend. Yes. Number one. Number two, we're walking. And I'm, I've obviously been on this journey with you. And I'm like, why isn't Pamelin on

I do part two? Because this is, again, no offense to the to the other amazing host that we've had on here and the celebrities that we've had on here. But you are dealing with this not in, you know, not like that. Didn't you know what I mean? Do you know what I'm trying to say? Not in the public eye. I'm a real normal person's view of, you know, what's really happening. Yeah. And I think it's for me, I relate more to people that are really going through it, not in the public eye, right?

Uh-huh. Well, I think that sometimes when you're in the public eye, you do have a different experience because you may be more accessible to more people. Right. Because your story's out there. Right. mean, you. I mean, I was like, I don't want to say it. But I mean, you know, more people maybe would have found me from, like, I found my husband on Instagram because he found, you know, so. And at this

point, it, it kind of comes down to a numbers game. I feel like a lot of things are numbers games. I had to date a lot of people. Yeah. You do. To find the right one. Yeah. And you start to, you know, figure out what you actually want instead of, you know, just trying to have. You know, somebody choose you or you be the one that somebody likes. Like, no, hmm, what exactly do I want? Well, so we're obviously going to talk about dating because that is one of our hot topics on our walks around the neighborhood because we're also, I don't only be best friends, but we're neighbors. And so we go on walks and I'm hearing it all. And we're going to talk about all that. But first, I want to back up because I know Pamela and I am honored to know you.

but I want other people listening. And I also want a potential suitor to be hearing this, too, to get a little piece into who you are, what has been your journey thus far and before the dating world. So let's back it up. Okay. Give us the, where are you from along where you married? Let's do it.

Do it. Well, I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and I'm very proud of that. You also know the version of Pittsburgh, Pam, and she comes out. Let me tell you about Pittsburgh, Pam. She's a good friend to have. So, you know, I have these kind of blue-colored roots.

And then I came here to Nashville from Los Angeles. I lived there for 11 years. And that's where I met my ex-husband. And I had my two beautiful daughters there. And we moved here in 2019. I was married for 10. years. And you had quite a dating history, too. I mean, with the fact that you didn't really date a lot of people. True. Yeah, I, since as far as I can remember, I've just been very intentional about

dating or boyfriends. I would have a boyfriend for three, four years, and then I wouldn't date at all for three, four years. It was kind of like, it was just something I would feel an energy and then I just knew that it was going to be it. And if I didn't have that feeling, I just didn't entertain. I didn't need to be, you know, going on dates. I was building my career. I had amazing friendships. And so it wasn't ever really anything that I felt like I had to have if it fell into my lap and, you know, it was an amazing experience. I totally put forth all of my effort into that. But it was never, it was, was really always, always quality over quantity.

For sure. Yeah. So, I mean, I really only had, I don't know. Because I know the hockey, there was a hockey guy, there was a football, right? I mean, I had a really, I had a four and a half year relationship and he was finance. He was not an athlete. But, and we lived together and we had a business together and all the things. But he just wasn't the one.

Yeah, when I thought about my future, I just didn't think that he was going to be, you know, the one to love me like I wanted to be loved. Mm-hmm, which is interesting in hindsight. In hindsight, oh my gosh, I mean, it was crazy. We lived together. I mean, I loved his family. It was, it was great in a lot of ways. It would just, I don't think he was capable of loving me enough. And so I think that's a big takeaway with a lot of people trying to, like, navigate this whole world is you can have beautiful relationships. You can really, really want that person in your life forever. But if they are not capable of meeting you where you're at, then there's this just lost hope.

And then we're wasting time. And we're wanting somebody to give us something that they cannot give us. and you know we have to get out of that cycle and really understanding like what is what are they capable of what can they do instead of just like romanticizing or being excited about the potential right of somebody isn't that an interesting thought though because that's the majority of why we get divorced is because they can't meet our needs yeah so really what we're wanting you're realizing the person that you picked didn't meet your needs. I mean, my ex-husband didn't meet my needs. Sure. Sure. And I think, you know, a lot of that does come down to communication too. So if we are

not properly communicating, you know, to somebody what exactly we need, and especially to men, we almost have to like lay it out and bullet points like on a silver platter and hand it to them and say, you know, this is actually what I need. And a lot of men will then give it to you. I mean, if you're really laying it out, I mean, some, you know, of course, some, some are not going to, but we cannot expect anybody to read our minds and know what we want because we all are so different. And so maybe in a past relationship, a woman or a man and needed X, Y, and Z, well, we're not the same person. And so I think that when it comes down to it, it's the communication that is first lacking, that then causes, you know, the needs aren't being met.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.

Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Official. Rider Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want.

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to 40 age range, which if they don't have kids, they're wanting to have kids. And I always kind of wonder, and I've never asked you this, so you can pass if you want. But for me, and I've spoken openly about this where I looked away from flags because I wanted to be a mom. You know, I still think I probably would have ended up with my ex just because I was so not, I didn't think I'd deserved certain things, but I truly at my core, I was like, I need to be a mom and this is my best option that I have right here as I, you know, at 30. And what's so sad is now I look back, I'm like, man, 30s so young. You know? So young. I'm like, oh, like you, you, you, and you don't realize how fast things can change on a dime at 34, 35. So it's like, but it was a true like, well,

I do when I want kids and I thought I'd already have kids because I come from Michigan and all my friends have like five-year-olds and six-year-olds at this point now and, oh my gosh. So I'm just curious for you, obviously there was love for your ex, but when you step aside from that, do you look at it and go, maybe I looked away from certain things because I wanted to be a mom because you have two beautiful children. Yes. So, and you're an amazing mom. Thank you. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, I'm not sure about that. I was never the person. that was so obsessed with being a mom. I just trusted that, like, my path was going to kind of align for me.

And then, I mean, it is true. I mean, I didn't meet, you know, my ex-husband until I was 33. So I was, you know, there's that subconscious time clock that is going on in your head. We also had a really fast dating period before engagement in marriage. that was like really fast. We just kind of, you know, really fell for each other. We were both from Pennsylvania. And it was just like this awesome kind of we came from the same mold connection.

And so, you know, I don't know if I thought like that. I think so many of us, when we find our, you know, first husbands. I mean, at this age, you either got one or three. So. I don't think. And I, I did. I don't think we go into it. I mean, I was going at it as a whole picture.

Like, this was amazing. This was, you know, my love. This was my, this was, you know, going to be the father, my children. Like, this was my forever. I don't recall going into it, you know, hesitant about anything. And I think a lot of people, right, we don't go into marriage thinking it's going to be, not the one. We don't go in thinking it's going to be a divorce. I remember my mom telling me that because my parents are divorced.

and she said, Pam, you know, I didn't marry your dad thinking I was going to divorce him. Like, I married him like, this is the greatest man ever. So, so that's kind of, you know, yeah, the plan was clearly to never get divorced, but here we are. Right. And look, it's interesting, too, because we're two obviously very different people when it comes to what we share and what we don't share. And even when I was married to my ex, when I would bring up, like, you didn't talk about your marriage, hardly at all. I mean, I didn't know there were any issues ever, you know, which then leads me to shocked when, and nobody knows the story. So this is a, am I allowed to share?

Sure. I had just met Alan and, not just met, but we were dating and then I got pregnant. And I remember, or obviously so close, but I remember there was this distance and I'm like, did I do something wrong? And I just kept thinking like, what did I do wrong? Pam's not really talking to me. This is so weird and I don't understand. And so I just kept thinking I did something wrong. So I'm like, okay, but I don't want to say anything, but should I? And then I'm also like trying not to vomit every two seconds because I'm pregnant. trying to like not tell everybody. Obviously you knew. But, uh, and I, yeah. So then the, as the summer goes on, you came over to our Airbnb that we were at and, uh, we hadn't moved into the new house. And you're like, I have to talk to you. And I'm like, here it is. She's breaking up with me. I don't know why or what I did. And I'm like, I've, at this, I, um, at this point,

I feel looking at it at Hunta, I feel so bad because I was, I made it so about me. and like what I did wrong. I should have, you know, asked you. But you literally said, are you breaking up with me? I did. I sat down. You're like, so I have to talk to you. I'm like, I'm so sorry.

I don't know what I did, but are we breaking up? Because. And that's what I thought. This is what I felt. And instead of why didn't I come to you and ask you, are you okay? But you said, well, I think it took me like 20 minutes. Yeah, which is I'm like, just tell me you hate me. Yeah.

And they couldn't spit it out. Right. Yeah. I just said. Oh, I still remember. that like I think you know I just said three words maybe two two words I'm divorced and you said like past tense I was like ED like I was shocked yeah I'm divorced I'm sorry what and then I then I felt terrible because I'm like you went through this like you were like you said nobody knew you

told nobody that's your therapist only that and then I just felt awful because I'm like man I should have asked if I have a question if I would have asked if you and your ex were okay like do you think you would have said or no I don't know because this was this is my what was happening in my brain at that time talk to talk to us tell us the tell us the thought process and I am very aware that I am unique in this way and it's not for everybody but it works for me so this is how I roll okay um I did I didn't talk to anybody about it because, you know, I needed to maintain joy in every other aspect of my life that I could. And I didn't want people to know because then it would have been the constant topic of conversation.

And everybody would have been asking me, are you okay, what's going on now? I would be walking to the bus stop. Everybody's thinking, oh, my gosh, she's sad. going through a divorce. And so I wanted to maintain some sense of normalcy in my life and know that I can go and, you know, hang out with you and all of our friends and just be normal. And I've always been the type of person that I trust my brain so much. I trust the thoughts in my head more than not against anybody else, but more than anybody can give me advice on. And so what my friends, you know, didn't realize is they were supporting me more than

they ever could by just being normal and just being, you know, there for me. And so that's just how I went through it. And I mean, maybe part of it was just, it was painful the time. talk, you know, I didn't want to talk about. I mean, that stuff's painful. And so I just sat in my emotions and I just sat in my feelings and, you know, just kind of, I think it's helpful when you don't have other people in their opinions and their voices constantly in your head. I think you have to be alone in your, in your thoughts a lot of the time. And I think that people don't take that time to do that. And so I know it was weird, but I'm proud of myself for doing it like that.

My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.

Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.

So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK story. 10 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Rider Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right.

We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me, Y. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and Agent. J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy

show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the Guy Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.

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From Mary Mary to Jennifer Hudson, we get into the soul of the music. music and the purpose that drives it. Listen to Culture raises us on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just think we all felt bad. And I hear what you're saying that we supported you without really even knowing. But I also know how devastating divorces and the like guttural tears and the sadness. And to know that you went through that alone,

that just makes me sad as a friend that I couldn't like you laid in bed with me while I would scream cry I know you know and it's like you were alone doing that and that still makes me sad to this day that you it makes me sad knowing that you were alone through that I am a little bit sad for that version of myself like when I look back but I think just at that moment it was just I was just doing the best that I thought you know was was good for like you know my mental health for my kids for you know all that stuff and just yeah not involving anybody else either yeah so when she said that obviously there was sadness that i felt for you because a little relief that you weren't breaking up with me you broke up with someone else and then my

third thing was is i was like damn it pam why couldn't you do this when i was getting divorced we would have been on fire in miami together yeah we were on totally opposite trajectories you were pregnant as could be and I was yeah I was like I needed you but then I'm like well so we would have gotten in too much trouble but you know now that so okay so to wrap that piece up looking back what are some of the obviously you went through it different than probably most did is there anything for women that are going through a divorce that you found Solison. I think I just kept trusting the universe's plan for me. And knowing that I, there's only two things I can control in this world. And it is how I treat myself and how I treat

other people. And I cannot control any other part of my surroundings, my environment. And so I just put my head down, you guys, I took care of myself. I built a company from nothing while going through a divorce. I put my energy into my children and I just did not lose hope in, you know, like where I meant to be. Again, did I ever see this. you know, happening or even expect, you know, that I would be in that place. No. But I just trust so much in this, like, beautiful freaking world that I know that I am exactly where I am supposed to be right now for whatever reason it is. And I don't even need to know the reason. I just release all of that control. And, I mean, you know, it was the craziest, hardest thing ever. But I think it did give me the space and the almost the like just determination to build this freaking company. Now I'm scaling this company like all by myself, you know, from nothing.

And so I almost turned like, you know, a sad thing into as much of a powerful, powerful finding my voice where I'm supposed to be. type of situation. I think a lot of women, too, they always ask me, when did you know? Like, was there a moment for you where you were like, either I don't want to spend my life like this the rest of my, or I don't want, what was it for you're like, I know that this is the right choice and I'm making the right choice? Was it a feeling? Was it a, I think a lot of women wrestle with that piece of it.

Like, how do you know? Yeah. that you're making the right decision or that this is. Well, I will say that I don't think that many. I mean, I think there are a percentage, but I don't think that many divorces just happen overnight. I think a lot of the time it is a slow burn, whether you want to admit it or not.

And I also think it's a situation where when you know you know and it could be the littlest thing it could be the biggest thing it could be you know um a multitude of you know kind of like again just like you know building up of things yep um but was there like some crazy pivotal moment not really it's interesting you say that because that's that is so true there is this feeling when you just go and i'm done And you, and I always was wondering if I would ever feel that. And then when you do, you're like, oh, that is what people always say, that feeling is. Yeah, you can't really explain it.

And you can't go back from it either. No. There's no, there's no take back button. It's like, or take back the feelings. You know that it's done. And then you just got to put your head down and go through it. Well, and, you know, I mean, it wasn't like, oh, it was just me saying I'm done. I mean, there was a, you know, a discussion.

there was, you know, a combination of both of us. So it wasn't just like, you know, some type of situation like that either. But yeah, I mean, I think just maybe two people realizing that maybe each other don't make the other person, you know, as happy as they could as they could be and that everybody deserves to, you know, live in this world with an abundance of happiness and joy. And so that was, you know, a bit of the backstory with the divorce, but what I'm excited to talk about is what's happening now. And I'm just loving this conversation. So let's pause this one and let's do part two next week. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot.

He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World.

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