The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Date This Eligible Divorced Dad Who Won The Bachelorette

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Jennie Garth and Jana Kramer are playing matchmaker! These two sit down with former "Bachelorette" winner JP Rosenbaum to hear how he and his ex-wife are co-parenting, how hard dating is in Miami, and... what he's looking for in his chapter 2! Plus, JP gives the details women want to know - he's giving you the truth about what women should have (and should avoid) on their dating profiles! Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System
Starting point is 00:00:33 On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me, Y. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency. sphere, of course.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication. Plus, it's carrot top, baby. And finally, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:01:46 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time Novak Djokovic. He's one 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak, Djokovic!
Starting point is 00:02:02 When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It was an unimaginable crime. It's four consecutive live terms for Brian Koeberger who killed the four University of Idaho students.
Starting point is 00:02:28 nearly 30 months of silence until bombshell development Brian Coburger has agreed to plead guilty no trial no testimony the defense are on a sinking ship this isn't the justice you wanted but this is justice listen to season three of the Idaho Massacre on the iHeart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Hello, it's I do part two.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I'm Jenny Garth, and I'm here with the beautiful, lovely Janet Kramer. Hi, friend. Hi. This is going to be a fun chat because we have a newly, I think, not so newly, but a single man. A single man coming on. And we are going to just get to the bottom of what it's like to be a single guy. Yeah, because we always hear a lot from the single women. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And so it'll be nice to hear from him and how things have been going from his divorce and everything that he's been going through. So this will be good, a man's perspective. A man's perspective. We need it because I don't know, I certainly don't know what a man's looking for out there. And I'm sure a lot of women can relate. If you're not out there, you know, dating and going through the apps and all that, stuff. I'm so curious. Yeah, absolutely. Let's bring them in. Okay, let's do it. Today we're
Starting point is 00:04:04 going to chat with someone who is in their own I-do part two era. You got to know this guy back on season seven of the Bachelorette when he proposed to and married Ashley. But like most of us on this podcast, he got divorced a few years ago and we're going to catch up with him and hear what's going on. Please welcome J.P. Rosenbaum to the podcast. What's up? Hey, hey, hey, hey. Okay, let's give our listeners a little background, if you would. In case they aren't huge Bachelor Nation fans and they live under a rock like me, you were a contestant on Ashley's season of The Bachelorette. Tell us a little bit about how long you guys were married and your sort of family, as it turned out. Sure. So we met in 2011 on the show. We got married at end of 2012. We were married. married for about seven and a half years. Happily had two kids who are now 10 and a half and eight and a half. Wow. Yeah. We were living up in Jersey for a little bit, in New York for a little bit,
Starting point is 00:05:10 moved down to Miami in the summer of 2014. And then I'm going to skip over a few years, but about two weeks before COVID hit, we decided to get divorced. Oh, wow. February of 2020, Is that about right? It was all a blur, but. Yeah. What happened for COVID then? If you guys right before COVID, you decided, did you guys separate and have two houses, that kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:05:37 So that was the tricky thing, right? So the kids were coming back from school. How are we going to sell the house? There were all these things, all these unknown questions that we just kind of had to navigate. So no, I ended up moving into the guest room for six months. She found a place. we sold the house. I moved out.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I found a place. And so, you know, it was, it was an interesting year. Oh, my. But that was before, because you guys, didn't you do a GMA about your, I don't want to mispronounce the.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Giamborei. Yes, that was, that was before. So then because I'm like, you guys were still technically married at that point, right? Because it was,
Starting point is 00:06:22 did you guys get back together? Or what was that? So that was, right before. So I, we were away for our anniversary in December in 19 when I had gotten sick. And so, you know, it was obviously, it was downward spiraling, but before that. But so I got sick. And then two months later, three months later, we, we decided to get divorce. So it was a, it was a rough year. Like, my mom was diagnosed with cancer. I had Guillain Barre. Like, we decided to get divorce it was a rough couple of years so what do you think because jenny and i were just talking about
Starting point is 00:07:00 this what do you think was the hardest year of marriage for you obviously the end was hard but like when you can kind of look back was like was it the first year was it the second year like what was the hardest that you're like this is maybe you know yeah i think 2019 you know the last year just because of everything that was going on in our lives. You know, we, we were happy, but, you know, kids came around and made things more difficult and we stopped talking, we stopped communicating, and that permeated every aspect of the marriage. And so, you know, the last year with my mom, with my illness, then deciding to get
Starting point is 00:07:40 divorced, like it was, and then, and then COVID, it was all, the last year to two was certainly the hardest just because of the, you know, the special circumstances of those two years. Yeah. It's interesting, too, because you say the seven and a half. It's like that seven-year it's that everyone talks about, like that statistic. I mean, I don't even know what the statistic is around it. I was just going to Google it. But so many people, it's like, all right, that's where it's the breaking point of their
Starting point is 00:08:08 communication or the breaking point of what things are. It's like that. It's interesting. Yeah. Why it's seven. We heard about that recently. Oh, really? There's the three year, the seven.
Starting point is 00:08:17 You're like, ah. Yeah. Like, oh, of course. It's fit right in, you know. Why did you guys stop talking? Like, what do you think from your perspective? Was the initial, like, the communication breakdown? Why does that happen?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah. That is very, I have so much perspective now, you know. In the moment, you don't know why. You know, you just know that things are not working. You know that you start resenting each other and you start just, just, everything just starts breaking down. So now that I've had time to reflect and heal and, you know, I've done my own self-healing and certainly have spoken to therapists and read a lot and listened way too many podcasts and gone down the Instagram rabbit holes. I think that, you know, the baseline of it all is that we are very different people.
Starting point is 00:09:11 We have very different perspectives on life and so many aspects of life. we have different love languages we have different just we are just very different and that doesn't really mesh and when you start budding heads on those things that don't mesh it becomes very frustrating and you you don't know how to get past it even if you're supposed to get past it like you don't know how to process it you don't know how to accept the other person's perspective you don't know how to understand the other person's perspective and you just start budding heads and it becomes like, oh, here we go again, and we're not going to get anywhere and, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:51 The cycle. Yeah, and it just goes around and round and around. And unless you are both the types of people that understand what's going on, understand the problems, are motivated to fix the problems. I think it can just spiral out of control where then it becomes like, I don't really care what you have to say because I know what you're going to say anyway. And I don't want to understand it because you don't understand me. and it just spirals into every aspect of the marriage.
Starting point is 00:10:21 What I find so interesting about that, though, is even when you go into the next relationship, you have to still, I mean, yeah, you know more things, you know more tools and, you know, you hopefully do the work individually. But then when you go into a new relationship, too, I mean, just like we were talking about with, you know, our husbands, it's like, you know, you still,
Starting point is 00:10:37 there's still things that come up. So it's like, what work are you going to put in to help with the communication, right? because our styles are so different or we're both so stubborn or and to go, all right, because the love is still there. So I wonder when you look back and go, now that I know all this, you know, do you think you guys could have, because to my knowledge, I don't remember there ever being some big scandal like anybody cheated or there was like something really bad.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So it's like, is the love still there? Would that have been maybe fixed? That's such a hard question to answer because at the core of it, like I said, we're just different. And I don't know. I, you know, if the me of today were the me of 10 years ago, would it be different? Would she see things differently? Would I react differently?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Like, that is an endless thought cycle that I stopped thinking about years ago because there are, I hate not having an answer, or something that can't be answered, right? Can't answer that. Like, I definitely would have been more prepared to deal with it. And I certainly would have done more on my. I am knowing what I know now, but would it have changed any result? I have no idea. That's a tough one to answer. For sure. How are you guys doing now? Your co-parenting, which is a whole another type of
Starting point is 00:12:01 relationship. I think Jan and I both know a lot about that. And it's not easy. It's not easy. How are you guys doing today and how are you handling co-parenting? And what would you tell somebody out there who's listening, who's in your position, and trying to co-parent with somebody that is very different than they are. Yeah, we're actually in a really great place right now. I love that. Really great. And I will admit, it took me a long time to get there. Like how long? What was taking you so long to get there? We have questions about that. What was it? How long? Yeah, I was in a definitive, like, funk where it's like, I'm, mad um i i resent her was like a defensive stance all of it all of it and even things where
Starting point is 00:12:51 i didn't need to say no to her on i would do it out of spite like i was in a really bad place she started dating something someone that got you know that made things even worse and so i had my own gone on and so it was very difficult for me to get to that next place where i don't want to speak for her but she was seemingly there much quicker than I was. And so I would say it took me a good, at least two years. I mean, at least, you know, even when it came to dating, but that's all other discussion. So it took me a few years to get there.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And, you know, now we are at a place where I harbor no anxiety for it, no resentment. I'm not mad. I'm in a I'm in I'm in a really great place when it comes to her and she and I think what do you think what do you think it was though that made you be able to switch to this kind of how did you turn the anger off I guess yeah I don't know I mean look I have like I've done a lot of healing right I've spoken to therapists I have read I have listened to podcast I have reflected I have you know I've changed my perception of it all and what everything that I'm holding onto what is it is any of it really hurt or is it all just me and unless I learned to let go of all that I'm never going to feel any better and so it wasn't as if I woke up one morning and I was like oh I'm all better you know it was definitely the biggest cliche of them all time like but time you know yeah I wish I could go back and tell me of three years
Starting point is 00:14:32 ago like look look where you are in three years from now there is a light at the end of the tunnel like you don't need to feel all this and just know that it will get better so yeah sometimes you just you have to go through it you have to yeah you have to wager way through it and but it is hard but it is hard and i think everybody's different yeah and i think it's hard when there is someone else too like another man around your kids and you know it's hard for the woman too and there's another woman around the kids and so i think that adds a whole other element but then when you start to separate and go okay as long as they're loved but if there's issues within that, then it just adds more complication.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah. I remember when they first started dating, I was like, I don't want him to come to any baseball games. I don't like, no, no, no, no. I will make a scene. Like, I was, I was ridiculous, you know? Now, like, they've been together for a while and he's, you know, the kids love him and his family's nice to the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And like, it's a good dynamic. So, but, but two, three years ago, man, like, no. I was like, I am, fuck you. All of that stuff. Yeah. But I think that's a great place to. be to be because it's like I have you know I know also that feeling of just being so angry but then and another friend too that's dealing with it as well but it's like what is that actually doing
Starting point is 00:15:42 for us like that's not good for us and there's no anything that I say to my ax isn't going to change or he's not going to ever he didn't understand me when we were married it's not he's no he's going to understand me now post divorce you know so it's it's like what why am I wasting my energy on something where it's like what is the point right no totally agree like I've I've explained it to some people were like, you know, the triggers are still there. She's still her. I just give less of a fuck now. And, you know, and that's not going to change. So I just have to change. I just have to think about it differently and process it differently. And I can only control how I react, you know. So I like to do a lot of unsent messages and emails. Like I just wrote one the other day
Starting point is 00:16:23 where it was just an email. I ended up not sending it, but I needed to just say it out loud. Because I know that what if I press send, he wouldn't care what I said. Right. It doesn't, it doesn't matter. But it mattered to me to get. it out. Wait, can you, can you unsend emails? I'm so curious. No, I'm saying like, so I don't actually press send. I just kind of write like a note, you know. I wish I could actually go back and unsend. You can. It's like a five second. You can on send text. You can unsend. Yeah, but that's, we're talking years ago. I'd like to get rid of that evidence of anger. No, I think you're screwed. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Speaking of screwed, do, are you dating anyone?
Starting point is 00:16:58 That was a nice segue. I like that. Thank you. Um, no. No, I, I, you know, there was a pause. Well, because it's a no. No, it's a no. Like, I'm dating, sure, but it's not, there's no one serious. You know, I'm going through the motions of dating. Okay, wait. So, well, this is exciting.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You're dating. Are you on any apps? I, because I have to be, yeah. Which apps are you on? I'm curious. Hing and bumble. Why are you getting red? Because it sucks.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Like, I feel, I just, every guy says this, by the way. It does. Yeah. Do you prefer hinge to bumble or bumble to hinge? I'm indifferent. I don't care. I think they are equally triggering. They trap you.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Like it's like nobody's serious. You know, there's fake profiles. Like everyone has endless options. So like no one really pays attention. So you kind of got to sift through the haystack to find the needle. And you know, every once in a while you meet someone that that, you know, makes sense. and then you can date, but it is, it's exhausting and it sucks. And not being from South Florida, from Miami, I don't exactly have a huge network.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And the age I'm at, I don't exactly have a new huge network of friends and single friends. I want to set me up with friends. And it's not like I'm going out to bars. I'm not, you know, meeting people organically. I would love to do that. Well, it's also you're kind of limited too. It's not like you can move, right? So it's like I always, when I started dating Alan, it's like I, he lived in England.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I'm like, I can't move. I have to stay in Nashville. So that was kind of where when I was, you know, dating, it's like if it doesn't make sense, like, why continue on, you know? Because it's like if this person is landlocked there and I'm landlocked here, what is actually the point? Right. Totally. You know? So it's like when you're on there, it's like how, you know, it's like you obviously wouldn't move from your kids. They're at a beautiful fun age. Like you wouldn't move. Yeah, not until college. Right. That's a while. That's a while. Yeah. How old are the kids? 10 and a half and eight and a half. yeah you're stuck there for a while so you don't have a lot of friends that are setting you up so talk to us i don't know jan i have you ever been on a dating app i was on raya you're on raya okay yeah but that app was ridiculous ridiculous it was just wait i have a funny raya story my ex-husband peter was i was told was on raya and his um age whatever range that he was looking for was also the age range of his oldest daughter so she
Starting point is 00:19:30 She came across him on her thing. Stop. Yeah, no. Mm-mm. December 29th, December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order, criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plainly. sight that's harder to predict and even harder to stop.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been. been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Writer Strong. And Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right.
Starting point is 00:21:45 We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props.
Starting point is 00:22:16 It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic. The world's number one male tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. I always showed himself what has Novak Djokovic done?
Starting point is 00:23:00 What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It was an unimaginable crime. It's four consecutive live terms for Brian Kohlberger who killed a four University of Idaho students. The defense are on a sinking ship. It was clear at that point.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He was out of options. Nearly 30 months of silence until... Bombshell development, Brian Koberger, appearing set to accept a plea deal just five weeks before his quadruple murder trial was set to start. No trial, no testimony. He has pleaded guilty to five criminal counts, one of burglary, and then four counts of murder. In this final season, we returned to Moscow with interviews from those still searching for answers. Why did the prosecution take this? They were holding all the cars. How on earth could you make a deal? What message does that send?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Listen to season three of the Idaho Masker on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so what's your age limit? I don't know how it works. So I'm pretty. Be honest. Hey, I'm here. After that story. I'm going to ask me anything. I'm an open book. I'm 32 to my age. I'm 48. So I'm all over the place. But only because. it's a needle in a haystack. And, you know, technically, if you make the haystack bigger, there are more needles. Do you believe age is just a number? Do you date older women? These are two questions running right now.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Let's attack the first one. So it depends where you are in life, right? I think that you can certainly fall in love with a woman that's, you know, significantly younger, but, you know, if she hasn't been through a lot from a relationship standpoint, if she wants a family, if she doesn't have, her career's not getting going yet. Like, there's, it depends where you are. Like, the timing has to be right and then age is but a number, if that makes sense. Would you like the person to be a mom or does that not?
Starting point is 00:25:50 I think it helps, but it's not a prerequisite. Like, I think it helps. What have you met somebody that had like five kids? Do I have to support them? Because if I have to support them, then it's probably a hard no. But it depends on the dynamic too, right? Is she a full-time mom? Does she have all five kids the entire time?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Is it 50-50? So there are so many factors. Like, I don't want to rule people out, but that's, I mean, single moms are the hardest working people I know. And so if the father's not in the picture and she doesn't have help, like that's hard to navigate, right? You know, like, how is she ever going to have enough time for us when she has that? So there are so many factors, and I don't like to pigeonhole and I don't have checklist and I don't have any of that.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's kind of, you have to play it by ear and see, see who this person really is and what they can offer. We talked about younger, but you didn't talk about older yet, JP. I'm waiting. I think he said to his age, right? How old are you? Yeah, it's set to my age. 48. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:55 But would you date older? I don't know. Again, I think it's a no. It's not a no. Look, I don't rule anything out because people are people. And like, if I'm exposed to an older woman and we click, like, sure. But there's not much exposure to it given, I guess, how I'm meeting people. And, you know, I'm not in a position where I'm meeting, you know, a 55, 60-year-old woman.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It just doesn't happen. So am I opposed to it? I don't like to say no. but you know you never know I guess I feel a little excited because I feel like we've got a lot of listeners out there who are looking for love maybe there's also a lot of people too in the you know Miami-ish area it's a disaster gotta be really what what makes it a disaster because I'm like man there's so many people that go there that you could that well let's just put it this way it's the only fans capital of the world uh-huh there is a there's a lot of that around
Starting point is 00:27:55 Like, I'm not a Miami beach guy either. Sure. I'm in the suburbs. I'm on the mainland. So I don't know. I feel like there is a lot more, and I'm sure every major city has this, but I just feel like there's a lot more superficial bullshit to navigate in Miami. So it's not as easy as one might think.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Okay, so let's get to the nitty gritty. We need this info straight from a man. What gets you to swipe right on someone's? page how am i supposed to make the decision based upon five photos and a and a PR setup bio that like is or is not how the person really is in real life for me it's as long as uh obviously i'd like to be attracted to her so some level of attraction and something witty i'm swiping because again and i'm sure you've heard this before it's kind of all about the numbers right you're going to swipe 30 times and how many times are you really going to match.
Starting point is 00:28:58 And so if there's something there that's intriguing and that just, you know, I don't have like a formula. Like if I'm attracted and they say something kind of funny and, you know. What gives you the ick on dating apps? It's so weird. It's so weird. So on dating apps. Like that they would do in their profile.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Like for me, I, if a guy had a. mirror selfie. I'm like, you're out. Like, no mirror selfies. No mirror selfies. Like, the look back ass shot in a bikini? Like, no, stop. Like, stop. Wait, you don't want any ass photos. Well, not, like, if not, if that's how you're attracting men, like, of course you're going to get a million swipes, right? Like, I'm like, is it nice? Eventually, sure. But, like, that's not, that's, that's not going to cause me. It doesn't give me the ick, but it's like, you're gone, you're gone, you're gone. Because they're looking for. You're also a data to. you know what I mean like the right right yeah all that um yeah you know there are people that
Starting point is 00:30:01 and again I don't know if these are fake bios or not but they'll be like you know not vaccinated like why are like is that important today like why is that so important that you've your limited space in your bio you're going to put not vaccinated I think that tells a lot but that's like a warning it does but like yeah I know you're you're you're ruling out a whole lot of people on one thing, and is it really that important to you today? I don't know. There are a little trigger things. I'm not a political guy, but, you know, no Trumpers.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like, okay, like, is that that important to you where you're not going to meet someone? So there are. Some people, I guess it is. I guess. I just want to meet cool people that I click with and we get along. Yeah. And, you know, at the end of the day, we make each other laugh. I can see being their best friend.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And, you know, we're in it for the long haul. I'm like, all that stuff matters. But does it, I don't know. Do you said no ass pictures? What kind of pictures make you swipe? I got, I really need to give our listener. Yes, let's see it. Let's see who's in your feed.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Am I using the right terminology? Because I've never been on an app. I'm trying to see if there's a hot. Is it a feed? I'm trying to see if there's an obvious. I don't know. I don't know how it works. Of course, I'm not going to come up with any.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I'm trying to see if there's an obvious one. I was like, this is what I'm talking about. This is what you get a lot of. Your likes. Yeah. Who's liking you? Who are you liking? I'm curious with being on the apps, too, because I, when I, I thought about doing Hinge
Starting point is 00:31:33 for a second because it seemed, you know, kind of cool or whatever. But, and I really was, did not like Raya. But is it hard for you when the people recognize you, do you have anything about Bachelor on yours? Yeah. Okay, I would hope not. I mean, I'd say hope not, that'd be scary. But like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 But like, do you, do you like it when people don't know? know who you are. Yeah, like the anonymity. Yeah. And you kind of go like, uh, yeah, because then they've already got something in their brain as far as like who I am. Yes. But it's been so long now. I mean, we're talking 14 years ago. So people either forgot like, oh, you look so familiar, but it doesn't get there. The 30 year olds probably wouldn't know. The 40 year olds would know. Yeah. Yeah. True. So it happens. Have you got anybody like flip out and be like, oh my God. I met you. Then they finally meet you and like, you were on The Bachelor? No, I haven't had that happen.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I mean, I've had a couple where they didn't know. And then after like the second or third date, they're like, oh, what's your Instagram? I was like, mm, okay. And then they're like, wait a second. And then it clicks. And it's kind of, it's a funny conversation. But it's never, it's never in the way and it's never in your face. And it's never, you know, anyone crazy about it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 It's kind of like, oh, that's a fun story. and you move on. Show us your app. Jenny's living vicariously through you. I want to see. I want to know what it is you're swiping on. Oh, you want to see my matches. Yes, everybody's listening.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They want to know, like, how can I match with somebody like JP? If you live in the Florida, Miami area. Yeah. Let me see. I feel like if I ask you a question, it's going to distract you. So I'm trying to just give you time.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I know. I'm like, I'm holding my question. Uh-huh. I haven't spoken to her, but this is someone where the pictures were not, Miami right there was like normal pictures in the wild like kind of like this is a terrible word to use but normal right so I don't like sunglasses pictures because I think that's kind of a cop out but don't wear sunglasses you guys okay yeah don't wear sunglasses yeah like she's adventurous oh that's
Starting point is 00:33:44 yeah she's beautiful yeah normal pretty normal like bikini babe shots there's not like I'm okay with a bikini shot like they're out in she's out in nature but Miami, I mean, you will see, I mean, it is, it is. It's like the bathing suit capital of the world. It's absurd. I've just titled it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Sons out, buns out. I get it. So I have to take breaks from the apps, too, just because. It affects your mental health. It really does. Yes. I, 1,000 percent, I talked to a girlfriend who's on the apps and she's, and I remember what the, it says, it does.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It affects, you know, your, your mood and it's depressing. Wow. Does it make you feel like, oh, I'm not good enough or? No, it's just, it's kind of an endless pit of just, yeah, an endless pit of men. Like, I can't even, no, I mean, it's just that aren't your person. And so it kind of gets defeating and. Yeah, you feel, yeah, agreed. I mean, I, you know, I'll swipe and swipe and swipe and then like 20 minutes I'll go by.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'm like, what am I doing? Like, I just like, I got to get my brain a break. And, you know, it's, I don't. know how successful they really are and define success from it. But like, it's, you know, they're just seemingly an endless supply and nobody cares. And like, it certainly is a self-esteem killer. What's your like first date when you do find a match and you set up that first encounter? What is it? Is it a coffee date? Are you going out to get a drink? It depends. like I've had so I don't want to waste anyone's time their time my time you know I think that if you're if there's witty banter and you're talking you're texting and you meet up for the first time I don't really drink these days so going for a drink is not ideal but coffee or a walk on the beach or grab a smoothie or let's something where it's enough time to get to known but you know you're not stuck three three hours on a dinner date with someone that you don't really know if you want to be.
Starting point is 00:35:50 be around. I think you can tell a lot. You know, you can certainly gauge in that first hour, no matter what you're doing, whether you want to spend more time with this person. I'm not saying they have to be the one, but like, oh, that was cool. She's fun. I'd see her again. So it varies, but simple coffee, smoothie walks. Just to, like, test the water. Yeah. Yeah. And find out if there's an attraction there at all, like in person. Because have you ever gone and met somebody and they look entirely different than their pictures. That's never happened. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I have never been catfished. I have had a couple where I was like, oh, you know, let's go grab a coffee. Like, I don't do coffee, but you can take me for dinner. I'm like, fuck you. Like, how do you, like, no. Like, bye. Wait, so if they want you to buy them dinner, they're out? It wasn't like, why don't we go for dinner?
Starting point is 00:36:42 It was like, buy me dinner. And I was like, look, I, I, I, I, I would. I'm not going to let you pay, but how do you, where do you, how do you have the balls to say that to somebody? We're like, I'm not going to meet you coffee, but you can buy me dinner. Like, no, I, well, maybe she doesn't like coffee, first of all. And maybe she knows her worth. And she's like, I'm worth more than a two dollar coffee. I would also say if she, if she ended it with a winky, I would say that. Like, my personality is like, I don't, I actually don't drink coffee, but I'll take dinner. You winky? Like that's, so that's different.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And personality is very hard to gauge in a text. you over emoji right so this was not there was no winky no smiley face none of that it was like i i received it as dead serious like i don't do coffee but you can buy me dinner that's how i sure so i's interesting i'm all for self-worth yeah but like this is these are two people here like we're we're in this together and and i'm not saying you're worth any less because i don't want to commit to three hours with somebody i don't know that we don't even know if we're going to like each other like why would you want to do that so once we know that there's something there like i will make it known how what you're worth like like i will recognize your worth but i don't
Starting point is 00:37:59 agree with the self-worth analysis off of the first date like the first encounter airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal, glass. The injured were being loaded into ambulances. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged.
Starting point is 00:38:48 and it was here to stay. Terrorism. Law and order criminal justice system is back. In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight. That's harder to predict and even harder to stop. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy?
Starting point is 00:39:40 That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Hello, it's Daniel Fischel, writer Strong, and Willfordale from PodMeets World. And we're bringing you Viva Las Content. That's right. We are back in Las Vegas, the city of sin, and giving the people what they want. A full week of Y2K content. Wait, we're back in Vegas? Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course.
Starting point is 00:40:30 We sat down with Kevin Richardson and A.J. McLean just minutes before they took the stage, and our very own Wilfredel basically became the newest member of the band. Boy band, please. Plus, the man who has the longest running comedy show on the strip joins us and gets his props. It's carrot top, baby. And finally, we all L-O-V-E-Hur, Ashley Simpson-Ross, joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. It's a full week of nostalgic interviews you don't want to miss. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all time, Novak Djokovic. The world's number one male tennis player. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak Djokovic! You've been through so many injuries, losses. Oh, I always showed himself. What has Novak Djokovic done?
Starting point is 00:41:30 What goes through your mind when you lose? I just want to be left alone. What? Has it taken to become Novak Djokovic? It's a consistent practice. It's prayer work, mindfulness, meditation, conscious breathing. It requires more responsibility from you on a daily basis to prepare yourself for the biggest battle. When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm 38 this year. How far can I go? How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or where wherever you get your podcast. It was an unimaginable crime. It's four consecutive live terms for Brian Koberger who killed the four University of Idaho students.
Starting point is 00:42:17 The defense are on a sinking ship. It was clear at that point. He was out of options. Nearly 30 months of silence until... Bombshell development, Brian Koberger, appearing set to accept a plea deal. Just five weeks before his quadruple murder trial was set Start. No trial, no testimony. He has pleaded guilty to five criminal counts, one of burglary,
Starting point is 00:42:41 and then four counts of murder. In this final season, we returned to Moscow with interviews from those still searching for answers. Why did the prosecution take this? They were holding all the cars. How on earth could you make a deal? What message does that send? Listen to season three of the Idaho Massacre on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you want to get married again? So I would. I don't have to. I want everything that comes with it.
Starting point is 00:43:19 The legal side of it, if she does great, if she doesn't great, I want the partnership, the friendship, the love, the, you know, I want everything that comes along with it, but it doesn't have to be legally bound. From all the things that you've listened podcast-wise and read books on that you've learned from your previous relationship, what would make you be like, I would be a good husband because I'm, you know, great at this? Like that you've learned that maybe you weren't the best with Ashley. I am It's a good one I was not the best listener
Starting point is 00:44:03 I was not the best not only was I not the best listener but I would also judge based upon somebody else's perspective that wasn't my own like no you're fucking wrong like how do you not see it my way I have done a complete 180 on that So I know when to listen, I know when to shut up, I know when to, you know, I know when to, when, when my advice is desired, you know, I've dated a woman where she just wanted to vent and like, it took me a while to understand, like, she didn't want me to try and fix it, but I was able to communicate to get to the point to know what she really wanted for me.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So I think my communication and listening has gotten night and day better. That's good. That's good. That's such an important quality. And a lot of men think that. A lot of men think they want me to fix it. And then you get frustrated. Then you get angry.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And, you know, it just is this unhealthy cycle. And I used to be like that. I can fix it. I can fix it. And that's not necessarily what needs to happen. So you've learned to be a better listener. I've learned to be a better and listener. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:16 That's great. And that's an amazing quality in a man. Do you think chivalry is dead? Are you a chivalrous guy? Totally. I opened doors and, you know, I am all about manners and it's how I was raised. You know, I think it's about how you pass it on to your kids too. But for me, it's not. I mean, I'm all about that. Do you have a timeline of one day? you would introduce something like have you ever introduced someone to the kids and then what would
Starting point is 00:45:49 that timeline be yeah i haven't uh i haven't yet you know initially i was like no you know no one's meeting my kids unless this is going somewhere and this is serious and so for a few years it was like well they haven't met anybody and i think it's important i'm you know i'm glad that ashley's in a relationship where the kids see her you know social with with a partner and i think that's important for the kids, but I do think it's important for them to see that I am happy that, you know, that I can't, that, that, that I date. I'm more open to having them meet someone earlier now than I was years ago because I think it's important for them to see that. It doesn't necessarily have to be, this is my girlfriend. It could meet a friend at the park and she just
Starting point is 00:46:36 happens to be there and like, oh, this is my friend, so and so. I am more open to it these days than I have ever been. I was pretty guarded and, you know, I wanted to shield them from it. And so I feel differently today than I did back then. Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Let, can we get a specific again for a second? I want people to really understand what a guy is looking for like you, like what a guy like you was really looking for. What, like, what, what does she look like? What, what, what are you attracted to physically? I have dated the spectrum. So I honestly, at this stage of my life, like the attraction comes with the personality.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So, you know, just because 20 years ago, maybe I had a type. Yeah. You don't have a type anymore. I really don't. I really have dated the spectrum, ethnicities, heights. I mean, you name it. Like, I've dated the spectrum. And I'm big on personality.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I like when there's banther. I like when there's sarcasm. I like that we, you know, that she can make fun of me and I can make fun of her and you just kind of keep going. And, you know, I like when you can tell that somebody is engaged in a conversation and wants to know more about you and asking questions. And so I try to escape reciprocate and do the same. And so I'm looking for that flow. Yeah, emotional intelligence sounds important to you. I mean, look, yes, I have to be physically attracted.
Starting point is 00:48:08 to them, but that also can evolve, too, you know? Because in 20 years from now, like, that's all gone for both of us. And it's like, you know, we're left with the other person. And I think the way you communicate and the way you, um, you make that sound so awful. I'm just going to say. No, what I'm saying. You said 20 years ago. I'm raising my face. In 20 years, it's all gone and we're just left with the other person. And I don't look the way that I look right now. And then she doesn't look the way she looks right now. Like, you know, sorry. No, I'm married to a younger man, so I get a little scared.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I'm just saying look. So it was a terrible way of paint. I'm saying it looks fade. Like, you know, and the attraction just comes on many levels. So I'm, I'm attracted to the personality type. And that's what I'm looking for. That sounds very mature of you, very evolved. I know when I got divorced, I don't know, Jan, if this happened to you, but one of the times I got divorced, I started dating all different types of guys, like short, tall, big, little, like, people were so confused.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It was like whiplash because each one was so different than the next one. But I had to do that because I didn't know. I didn't know. And I also was like, you know what, their body doesn't really matter to me. me. It's what's inside and what's what that connection is that stimulates me. So I hear you. I agree. I mean, look, ultimately, like, yes, you want them to take care of themselves and, like, make an effort and, you know, be active because that's what I want to do. And so your, your interests also need to align. Like lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Thank you. That's what I meant to say. So that's all important. But I am so tired. of all the noise that is out there with regards to, like, you know, red flags and, like, they didn't respond to via text. I'm like, I can't overanalyze anymore. I can't overthink. I can't, I can't do any of that. I can't handle the noise anymore. The games.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Oh, my God. There's too much out there. And so, and it creates a sense of me not being me. And so I've, I'm back to just really me being me. and I know what clicks and what works and feels good. And I'm just going to focus on that. I love that. How is your health, too?
Starting point is 00:50:41 Is it something where does that syndrome, does it ever come back? Or is it, was that just kind of a one time? Yeah. So there is a chronic condition that you can get. I don't have that. So for me, it was a one time thing. Oh, God. It's been like 200,000 people get it or something like that.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Wow. So I've had no, you know, ever since I learned how to walk and button buttons again, I've been fine. that sounds like terrible yeah very I heard you mentioned something about alcohol too as your relationship changed with that I mean I was never a big drinker to begin with but I had dated I had dated someone for four or five months where she was sober for five years and so whenever we hung out and went out like we never drank and then I was like holy shit like I feel great like I don't need this to connect with anybody yeah I don't need this to have fun and I wake up the next morning after
Starting point is 00:51:34 a great night's sleep and I feel fantastic. I was like, wow, like, what do I really want this for? So from that point, I just really stopped. Yeah, I mean, agree. I'm the same way. I rarely drink now just because I don't want to feel like crap the next day. And it's, it doesn't just, it's not just one day. It lingers on for for weeks. You know, so I'm just like, for what reason? And I've got a little. So I'm just like, I don't want to be tired. No. And as you get old. But I feel like there is more conversations about alcohol. I don't know if it's just us in our 40s, you know, and plus, but, or if it's, but I, I feel like I've heard that it's, that's dropping a little bit too. Definitely, definitely. Oh, I'm 40, I'm gonna be 42 in December.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Happy birthday. Thanks. Wait, okay, so if the opportunity came around, would you be open to finding love or even getting married in your case on TV? Like, if they did like a 40, like, a, a golden, Yeah, because we're golden. Not golden. A sparkling. You guys are shimmering. Okay. A shimmering bachelor in paradise.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Would you do it? So I never say no, right? I don't want to close doors. But I'm in the stage of my life where I have kids to think about. I have a career. Like I can't put any of that on hold to go on a reality show, right? So I never say no, but I think the odds are low, slim. But, you know, I'm about, I'm all about opening doors.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Never know. Unless you do it, you know, you don't know. You don't know. But there are different factors at play today than there were when I went on the show, you know, 14 years ago or whatever it's been. So never say never. Never say never. I've got other priorities right now.
Starting point is 00:53:26 This is so exciting because if someone is listening right now and they're maybe interested, what how could could they slide into your DMs do you do that it's happened um you know it's happened but if look this is the silliest cliche but like i'm i you got to shoot your shot right even if you get shot down so if there's no other way that we're ever going to meet other than doing that i would say yeah do it now you know am i going to answer am i going to be open to it are you get like, I don't know, but, you know, I would say you've got to create opportunity if none exists. So go for it. So there's that. Everyone, J.P. Rosenbaum. I mean, DM him on Instagram. Give him a slide in. He's 48 years old lives in Miami, Florida, real estate developer, father of
Starting point is 00:54:16 two. So like, let's hook our friend up here. I'm not relying on that, but thank you. We'll see what we can do. Yeah. I love matchmaking. So I'm going to really keep. my mind open. Yeah. You're out in L.A., though, so you're in the main, right? Yeah. And you're in, you're still in Nashville, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah. Yeah. There's a thing called airplanes, so. I've heard of that. There is. Yeah. I've heard of that. I think I can't, what do you think about a long distance relationship?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Would you do that? Would you be open to it? I think there has to be an end game, right? I think to just do that indefinitely, and like, like, John said earlier, like you live there. I live here. If no one's moving or there's no potential for us to live. together that's that's hard to do i don't want to waste time on that right yeah so yeah well we have to say goodbye oh that was but this has been fun and really interesting to get inside at the head of a
Starting point is 00:55:14 single man in his 40s what he's looking for so thank you yeah and you're doing the work and doing awesome and you know like you're a great dad and so just you deserve a great love within all of that thank you so thanks for having me on guys i appreciate it Thanks, J.P. So sweet. Mm-hmm. He's really sweet. Do you have someone you think would make a great fit for J.P?
Starting point is 00:55:37 Are you interested in J.P.? We'll shoot your shot. Email us or call us. All the info is in the show notes. And we're going to put some info about J.P. Up on our socials. Follow us on socials. Make sure to rate and review the podcast.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I do part two. An IHeart Radio podcast where falling in love is the main objective. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then, everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal, just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Lerner.
Starting point is 00:56:29 law and order criminal justice system on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well dakota luckily it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon this person writes my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want or gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Hello, it's Daniel Fischel. Rider Strong. And Wilfredel from PodMeets World. We are back in Las Vegas and giving the people what they want, a full week of Y2K content. Tell me why. Well, for the Backstreet Boys residency at Sphere, of course. We joke and say this is our second marriage, but it takes a lot of communication. Plus, it's carrot top, baby. And finally, Ashley Simpson-Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast, and today I'm joined by one of the greatest athletes of all-time, Novak Djokovic. He's won 14 grand slams in a glittering career. Novak, Djokovic! When you reach your 30, you start counting your days to your retirement. I'm 38 this year. How long can I push my own limits? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It was an unimaginable crime. It's four consecutive live terms for Brian Koeberger who killed the four University of Idaho students. Nearly 30 months of silence Until Bombshell development Brian Coburger has agreed to plead guilty No trial, no testimony The defense are on a sinking ship
Starting point is 00:58:40 This isn't the justice you wanted But this is justice Listen to season three of the Idaho Massacre On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts This is an IHeart podcast You know what I'm

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