The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Daughters are Golden

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Before we get to Hometowns on The Golden Bachelorette, a family member of a very popular contestant is here to give Ben and Ashley a behind the scenes sneak peek! We’re hanging out with Pascal’s daughter Natalie who opens up about her relationship with her father, what it was like to see him get emotional on national TV, and we hear the story of how her parents first met! Plus, find out if Natalie thinks Joan would be a good match for her dad! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is Almost Famous Podcast. We have a very special episode today, a very unique episode, something we don't get to do very often, right? Because there's only one show that we can really do it with in this kind of format. Ashley, tell all of our listeners who we have today. we have natalie who is pascal's daughter and we have her here today to give us all the deeds about her dad listen we are so compelled by him um so we're so excited to know what it was like growing up with him and how he is as a dad so can we start with like day one day one from birth um yeah i have

to say growing up with him is he honestly was like the best dad he is very energetic as you guys can tell so we were always doing things we went to every disney on ice show um obviously my hair was always pristine he was actually the one to always do my hair and those cute little butterfly clips and those tight cute ponytails um he was a great dad growing up honestly your dad owns a salon is it's a med spa salon yeah yeah okay it is okay hold up i need to pause you there though Okay. Is it multiple because we don't have to get into his personal finances or how you two have lived in the world. But at least from the first couple weeks, it would seem that this med spot has done very well for him.

It has done very well, yes. He started with one downtown. So that's the one that he had when I was younger. Chicago? Yes, in Chicago. then he opened another one in the suburb and then he closed both of those and then opened a big one and then he started to kind of branch out and then realized that he didn't really want a franchise and now he just has the one and he's like semi-retired and he only works a couple days a week now

and travels a lot so so did he start out as a hairstylist he started sweeping the floors actually amazing that's right he told us that on the one episode the one date yeah he was in a what drew him to aesthetics and has he always been so metrosexual which we have kind of retired that word but your dad fits it perfectly yeah or i guess would you categorize him as like metro i would say that he definitely cares about the way he looks and the way he dresses and his appearance for sure um yeah i i don't i don't know if he can say he's metro but quite possibly I would say what drew him to hair was his cousin, I believe it's his cousin, Charles Ifergan. And he started kind of working with him and then decided that he kind of wanted to go to hair school and then saved up all of his dollars and opened up his first salon.

So, yeah. It's a really cool story to see the progress when you take your dad and your family's life as a whole. and see kind of how it has gotten to this point, that now he's on national television. Yeah. We're going to get back to kind of the story of all that and how you grew up. You're obviously living in Canada now yourself. What brought you there?

That's not where he's living, right? No, my dad lives in Chicago. So when my parents separated, my mom continued to work at the salon for years. Like they're, they still get along like great to this day. have a great, like, co-parenting relationship. And then my mom wasn't working at the salon anymore. And so she's like, I think I'm going to go back. My mom's from Canada.

So she's like, I think I'm going to go back to Canada with my family and stuff like that. And so I moved to Canada when I was about eight. And then my dad flew me out to Chicago every Friday after school. Every Sunday I'd get back on a plane to be back at school on Monday. And that happened for probably the first two. years that I lived here. I was a very frequent flyer. And then I started like getting friends and birthday parties and like started getting into horses and having competitions. And I was like, I don't want to go every weekend anymore. And so it kind of started like getting slower and

slower. And then I went to hair school in Chicago. I lived there for about a year again. And then came back to Canada. So all right. So I'm very interested on how your parents met and what their relationship was like because that's something we didn't get from him on that date. Yeah. So, my parents okay so my mom was actually a model and my dad was a hairstylist and they actually just learned this story the other day they um they ended up at the same event and he like sent one of his friends to go talk to my mom and she was like now like whatever and then somehow she ended up giving her his friend her number and the two girls kind of started communicating and then she passed a lot the message to my dad and my dad was like just come out with me come out with me and she's like

okay fine and then they started dating they moved in together after two months um and they were together for about seven or eight years I believe so yeah in this in this time period in their life do you know how your dad as a married man never did his own laundry uh honestly I'm not going to lie like from birth, I don't recall him ever doing it. I don't recall him ever cooking. The only thing he's actually made, actually, I have a video of it somewhere was him actually cooking a pasta one night. And I was like, oh my gosh, you use your pots and pans.

I thought they were just here for show. He's done that. And he actually makes a really good salad dressing, I have to say. Those are the two things that I've actually seen him kind of put together. And this was, I think, just like last year or the year before that I saw him actually use his pots and pans for the first time. It was like a documenting moment. But no, ever since I was little, we went up for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Usually a nice dinner every night. He has his dinners planned out. He's very organized. Even when we go on trips, like he pre-plans where we're

eating dinner. I like this. No, like we always had a housekeeper. Like I remember having a nanny and a housekeeper and he just, he's just never done it. And I think that maybe like, since he started maybe like the the machines of like the laundry machines have changed he's like oh it's just too complicated now and he just doesn't do it anymore but um yeah no he's just he's just never done it okay so the medspo must be doing very well yeah he's he's pretty he's pretty successful for sure um it's definitely in a pretty high end area uh in the north shore of chicago um yeah and he a lot of his clients, I would say, the people that come to the sun are pretty well off. And yeah, it's very busy every time I go in there. So my dad also has never done his laundry since they've

been married. I'm pretty sure. Really? Okay. So it's not that weird. Everyone's like freaking out. Oh my God. No. I don't think that that's, I personally growing up the way I did, my dad doesn't touch laundry. Yeah. Like I learned to do laundry when I was 19. Like for the first time my girlfriend, And I dropped my laundry off at my mom's house. And she's like, Natalie, you have to stop doing this. Like, this is embarrassing. I did the same thing. My freshman year of college, I was like, okay, mom, I guess you should teach me.

And then I ended up just bringing it home every weekend. That's what I did too. I, if only I had known it was so easy to do, I would have been fine. It's so easy. I know. But it's just, I just was like, oh, my God, I'm going to ruin something. Or my dad always, like, kind of made it seem kind of scary. He's like, well, you know, your clothes are going to drink.

And like, I don't know. Yeah, my mom's always been the one who's like, he, she dries jeans out of the dryer, like, she hangs them. So I thought that there was like some science to everything. And really, I just cleans me the churgent. Yeah, it's actually very simple. This is interesting as this is. I do want to talk to you, Natalie. And on the almost famous podcast, you can always tell us who we're wrong. Please. Like if I say something here and you're like, no, you're actually so far off. For sure. Yeah. I feel like I definitely do that as it is with my dad. Good, good. I'm comfortable with that. I am married. So that's totally.

That's fair. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his younger, a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other,

but I just want her gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not. To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not

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Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort.

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The other side of it is it feels like out of a lot of the guys, and he's not the only one, but he's definitely one of a few that came in with just, a lot of joy. I mean, there wasn't this, like, you know, hey, I'm going to wait to tell you this story moment where it's like, this has been a pivotal point in my life and I'm still trying to get over it kind of thing. It's like he didn't have that story. And so it was always a, I'm here for a different reason. So I wanted to say that and see if you agreed or disagreed. And then the question of that is, what reason did he even go on this show for outside of the obvious of potentially finding love one day? Like, what do you think is real? Like, because Ashley and I've

been on the show one person gets picked you know it's not the only reason you go on the show so what was it um okay so for your first question um i actually just talked about to him about this yesterday and i was like i feel like you can kind of see it in the show i think that she kind of gravitates towards him because her dates with him are like lighthearted do you know what i mean whereas like some of those other dates are so heavy and you know at the age that all these men are at you know some of their wives, you know, have died and some of them, you know, like have been through a divorce or two and things like that, you know, like they've had all these things and maybe they're not over them and you can see that a lot in the show. And I think that my dad

kind of just brings that like lightness out kind of in her. And I think that it's really nice to see. Like I've talked to many of my friends and people who are watching the show and they're like, they just have fun. So yeah, I definitely have noticed that as well. And I was just talking to him about that yesterday as well because I've been obviously watching it. And for the second question, so I don't know if you guys know, but I signed him up for the show in January. I didn't know that. Yeah, so I signed him up in January.

It was actually really funny. We were in Mexico and I was asking him all these questions because it's a long questionnaire. And I was like, so like, who, like, what would your ideal date be? And then I'm like typing on my phone. He's like, what are you doing? like what are you? I was like, I'm signing you up for a show. He's like, what show? And then I told him, he's like, you're joking. I'm like, no, we have 40 more questions to go. Let's keep moving here. Um, and so, uh, we were kind of, I was showing him who the women are and kind of like an inclination of, you know, who I thought was potentially going to be the golden bachelorette. And he actually picked her like out of everyone too. He's like, I'm just, I'm really attracted to her. We kind of like did a little deep dive on her. And he's like, no, he's like that. Like that's her. And so on his first night there when he said, I'm telling you, like, I wouldn't be here. If it wasn't you, it's, that's 100% true.

He was actually really excited. Like, he's been really excited to, you know, get to know her and stuff like that. So it's been, it definitely was her from, from the second he found out he was excited. He went through a lot of the process not knowing. And he was 100% certain about going on the show when he actually found out that it was Joan. Oh, my gosh. So cute. well next week we're seeing hometowns were you there i was there yeah so give us a little

preview um i don't want to say too much but i definitely think that she's lovely and as you guys probably saw on the preview like her interaction with my son is absolutely adorable um my son really liked her and I knew that would have been his grandson because they didn't really specify but I was like that guy has like a look he's got his hair done perfectly that has got to be Pascal's a grandson adorable yeah he's a good looking kid he's a cutie for sure um I would say that the hometown I think went pretty well um and I'm excited to see kind of that is howd i guess have you seen your dad date here in the last like few years just in real life um i wouldn't say like anything serious i think that he's like casually kind of dated i think that

my dad i know that he has like deep down i know he doesn't really talk about on the show i know he does have a little bit of of fear i would say um i do think that it doesn't always like like come out as fear, but I feel like there is a little bit of fear just from, you know, his past relationships. I think that his relationships have been very like surface level. It's been like couple dates type thing, never really leading anywhere type relationships is kind of what I've seen or heard of. Yeah, it's been very casual. But I mean, the past year and a half, I have heard him say, like, I want to find that person. Like, I just, I want to find that person that wants to adventure him at that point in my life for.

Like, I want a partner that we can just, like, go to Paris and go to Italy and go to Africa and go do all these things. And he wants to have that person that wants the same adventure as him. And, yeah, from the sounds of it seems like Jones, kind of making the cat. Yeah, she's down for that. It's, uh, okay. So, okay. So is it weird to see him on TV? then taking off his shirt, showing an actually insane amount of abs for a man his age. Yeah, his abs are definitely circulating the internet at the moment.

Yeah, like, is it weird for you? Like, what does it feel like as a child? Yeah. Seeing that. Okay. And then having friends probably tell you, hey, like, this doesn't work out. I like to go to Italy. No, no.

Absolutely not. Yeah, I definitely, I was definitely doing a little bit of this. I feel like he's a very funny guy, and I wouldn't expect any less of him, but I definitely wasn't expecting to see so much of that. Yeah. That's what I'm going to say. We did see a lot of them. Speaking of.

Yeah, he's very confident in who he is, and I mean, yeah, go dad. Well, we've got hometowns coming up. And if your dad gets through, oh, hometowns, yes, we have hometowns coming up. But if he gets through those, we have the fantasy suites. How weird, awkward is that conversation? Did you think this far ahead when you signed him up? Honestly, no.

I know that my dad's such a big personality and I knew that it was going to go one of two ways. I knew that she was either really going to like him or she wasn't going to like him at all. and so I wasn't really thinking too far ahead with what that was going to look like now that we're almost potentially there I'm definitely wondering how that's going to go just even watching my dad like make out with her I'm like that's a lot

that's a lot but no I I mean we're just going to have to see how it's so good I can't what I hope for just after meeting you and just the way you shine and the way you're handling this, I hope, because this is how I am as a human, I hope we see them that morning scene where they're both like a coffee and I'm going to watch it and think, oh, Natalie's watching this too and she

hates this and I think it's great. You know, I'll assume that he makes it that far. Yeah, the assumption has to be there. Yeah. I mean, I think that. that now that we're kind of getting down to the wire, I think people are really starting to think about who that last person is going to be. Because I mean, there's not many guys left and

after hometowns, it's really down to the final wire. So we'll have to see how she goes. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.

This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating.

He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him, because, he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you

on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard.

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Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up. but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

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As a part of the Marco Tura Podcast Network Available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo,

this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming. and you don't know who's next to you.

And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. One storyline that I was curious about that hasn't got talked about, but I thought it was really sweet. And I do think it was a moment for Mark. But it was also a moment for your dad. I know. I tear not. Yeah. Like your dad says he was my best friend. You know, Mark's obviously gone from the show, no matter what happens with your dad. Have they kept in

contact? You know, we have friendships that last from this show. We both, Ash and I both have that ourselves. Does it feel, did it, like, what made them connect so much and have they talked? My dad definitely has stayed in contact with some of the guys for sure. There was an article that Greg wrote saying that they're all plan they're going to plan like this big trip like all like the guys and they're all excited to hang out outside of the show um i think with mark they had a lot of really um in-depth conversations and i think that my dad has a really tough time being vulnerable and he actually says that in the show um and i think that mark is just such like a calming presence to him that he um kind of opened up a lot to mark and mark definitely opened up

lot to him and um yeah i think he was he was very sad to see him go oh that's so sad and yet so sweet i know i'm gonna say i've never seen my dad cry in 33 years i've never seen him cry so to see him cry on the show i was like what over marks elimination yeah i was like oh my god that's so sweet that's what makes this show so good is that there is the relationships between men i know so your dad had a conversation with joan a couple weeks ago where she felt like he wasn't pursuing her enough on a group date. How did you feel about that? Yeah.

So, I mean, I know my dad and I know he's not aggressive. He's just not like that. And I know that like we kind of talked about it before the show. I asked him kind of like what he was thinking like if he's going to like, I mean, he was the first person to grab her, which I was like, well, on the first night. But he's like, I'm just, he's like, I'm just not an aggressive personality like that. He's like, I'm just not going to be the one kind of trying to take up all of her attention. And so I think that that's kind of where he was going with that. He's just like, I am who I am and we're going to get time to talk,

but I'm not going to be like chalk in the last episode. He's like, I'm just not going to hover and I'm just going to kind of let her have her time. And then when we get time, we'll get time type thing. And I know that's kind of been his approach the whole time. I think now you saw him saying, well, you do. didn't even let anyone else talk to. And now it's kind of getting real where he's like, okay, like everyone, we need to all like be on the same page or everyone needs time with her type thing. Like, we're getting down to the wire. We need those moments. So it's a breath of fresh

air, especially with the background checks. Some of these guys are getting. So I'm pretty, I'm pretty stoked to have a guy be like, hey, you know what? There's an appropriate time and not. And I've enjoyed seeing that evolution in him. Honestly, with when it comes to saying, no, you know what, I'm actually feeling something for Joan. Now I'd like to stand up and like get time with her. Yeah. So this is kind of where this closes for me and it take as much time as you need. Obviously, you signed him up for the show. We know that now. So you believe in your dad and you love your dad and you want to see him happy. Yes. But if Joan was sitting to this, because she does listen to the almost famous podcast. She does. And she'll definitely be listening to this one. I know that.

yeah um if you were to sit down with joan before this whole thing starts and say this is who my dad is and this is why i want to see him happy what would you have said i probably would have said that my dad has honestly one of the biggest hearts out there and he genuinely does like he is the most giving caring person that you will ever meet he does sometimes have walls up and you know I mean, rightfully so, I know I'm kind of the same way. It does take him a little bit to kind of get there. And if she's patient with him and really just, you know, gives him that time to get to know her that I think that they could have like such an incredible relationship.

And just the fact that, you know, she wants adventure and she seems to want all the things that he wants, I think that, you know, they could actually have a really amazing life together. and to give him the chance for sure. My last question for you is your dad has such a rags to riches story. He talked about how, you know, his father said you can get a pair of new shoes once you've earned the money to buy it. And he moved to America. He obviously did very well for himself. Yeah.

Is your grandpa still around? And how did they feel about, no, about your dad's success? No, so unfortunately my grandpa did pass away. My grandma's still alive. Um, I actually haven't asked him if he told her about any of this, but um, I had that's my next question. I was like, is grandma watching this because like, hopefully he'll have a heart attack. Yeah. Yeah, so she's still alive.

I actually went and visited her and some of my family in Paris a couple years ago with my sister. Um, but no, my grandpa is not alive anymore. I think that, um, you know, my dad's story. still it kind of makes me tear up to this day a little bit. I think that he definitely has come a long way and he's definitely made something of him. And he hasn't, he hasn't, he hasn't come from, like, he's come from nothing, basically.

And just kind of seeing where he is today is like a huge inspiration to me and hopefully to a lot of people. Natalie, close us out here. Obviously, we've talked about your dad a lot. We've talked about how Grady is, how Grady was to you, is to you, all those things. A little bit about Joan, just to close us out here. As you've watched Joan on this journey through her kind of struggles moving on from the past, but also excitement towards the future, her curiosity towards your dad,

do you still believe they could be a great match? You just said it earlier about Joan specifically. Do you think she would make a great match for your dad? I do. And obviously after meeting her, I feel strongly about that. I feel like she definitely has a young spirit. And I think that that's kind of what my dad's looking for. I think she presents herself, well, she's a very classy lady, which my dad said.

I think she, you know, is family oriented. She has grandkids and I feel like she's looking for adventure and someone who's just going to not make her forget her husband necessarily, but just like make her, how do I word that? I feel like just make her kind of bring like that happiness back out and make her feel like it's possible to fall. in love again. And I do think that their relationship's just not very, not very heavy. And it's lighthearted. And I think that's maybe what she's, she's looking for is someone just to kind of

have fun with and enjoy the rest of her life with. So I think that they are a good fit. And I think Joan is a good fit for my dad. So we'll have to see what happens. Your dad is definitely somebody you could have a good time with. That's obvious. Anytime, any place with anyone. He's a, he's just a good time guy for sure well tell him to come on the ben and ashley eye almost on his podcast before any other i will for sure absolutely let's get that written down uh Natalie you've been great thank you so much for coming on and talking about your dad and giving us more of a perspective about who he is I learned a lot just from you and it like it uncovered a little bit of the pieces that we don't get to see from the show thanks for signing them up thanks for sharing with all of us I hope he has

a shirt off multiple more times as the season progresses and enjoy the ride and we cannot wait to talk to you again and hopefully it is maybe you and your dad and Joan that would be a really cool podcast yes yes it would

and I can't wait to see the interaction between him and your and your son yes yeah all of us together it'll be a good episode next week for sure all right see yeah thank you guys thank you guys so much it was nice to meet you guys okay bye that's been Natalie Pascal's daughter

who signed him up for the show on the almost famous podcast that was a fun interview I think Ashley because we got such a perspective on Pascal I'm rooting for him right now like he already was but I really want to see them together you know

I kind of feel you especially because I think chalk was a little bit aggressive I don't know how I felt about chalk after this last episode so now I'm like Team Pascal Wow. Well, and that's what this whole show is about, right? It's now kind of figuring out what we kind of want for Joan and for these relationships. But I think she made a good point. In this next chapter of. One light and fun. Yeah, in this next chapter of your life. You know what? You've gone through the heavy. You've done so much stuff. All you want is somebody willing to travel to see grandkids. Somebody willing to travel to make memories. Somebody that's going to have fun with you and take you out the dinner and have a great dinner together.

Sounds like he could be that. And I now am full on Team Pascal. I know. It makes a lot of sense. Hey, so we'll be breaking down the next week's episode after Hometowns. Obviously, Natalie will be on that episode. So until next time, I've been Ben. I've been Ashley.

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