The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - DeAnna’s Dating Dilemma

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

Should you date someone in the friend group? DeAnna gives all the details to Kathy on why she’s feeling conflicted when it comes to a prospective date.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. IHeart Podcasts bring you the ultimate Summer of Love Tree. This is famously available. Hi, it's Kathy Schwartz and I'm Deanna Stagliano. And we are back with famously available, and we are just getting ready to dive back into all things about dating with some more girl chat. All right. So I know we're all going to be at Jingle Ball. You're going to be there.

You've had the pleasure of already seeing me go on one date. I got to tell you, that looked. So I'm, I don't know, even at my age, you put a man in front of me and let me talk to him for five minutes. When I see his eyes and his smile, I can tell you whether I'm interested in a second date. that's how quickly I can do it. But it was painful to watch you because you, in my mind, you clearly were not interested in that date that you had. Well, I won't go back because we already did a podcast over that.

But I think you're right, Kathy, I think I realized pretty early on. It also was a weird scenario. You know what I mean? It's not like you go out to dinner with one guy and get to know, you know what I mean? Different scenario. Like all friends were there who were a part of the date, which is why I'm also, I feel a little apprehensive now about bringing this one because he's okay no one on the podcast introduced me to him he's somebody that I met myself a lot of our friends do not know that we have been seeing

each other so then to bring him to such a public event well but it's well it's not going to be I don't think you and he would be on camera I just had a brilliant idea this is Kathy this is where my mind works you bring him and you bring him and you know we don't we nobody will know who he is we won't put him on camera we won't say his name and then they can reach out to the east coast guy and ask him if he wants to come and have a second date with me a third day against would be and then if he isn't nice to me you all can torture him no we're not bringing him back kathy because you're worth more than what he gave to you you are worth more than what he gave to you we're not bringing him back i'm not even going to stand for it because now i have a tainted little

taste in my mouth for him so we can't have him back we need to set you up with someone fresh and new. Are you, have you been doing dating apps? I did dating apps, I guess about a year ago. I haven't been on them in over a year. It's a show, don't do it. Oh, wait, wait, I have to tell you, I don't know if you know this, but Joan and Susan and Nancy, all from my season with Golden Bachelor 1, all came to Austin like three weeks ago.

I saw. Okay, we had a blast, but one of the things, Susan and Joan were harassed. Nancy and me. You've got to get on a dating site. I said, guys, it's brutal. It is brutal. And Nancy is younger than I am. And it's still brutal. So just, you know, one too many glasses of wine in. We said, uncle, we got on. And then we spent the rest of the night going, really? All literally, we took turns holding up guys, pictures that were 50 pounds overweight, holding up dead fish with beer cans, ball caps backwards, you know, ridiculous. 30-year-olds that said, hey, you know, do you want to be my baby mama? I mean, it was the whole thing. We died laughing. It's, it is so, I do not think that online dating works. So here's the thing. I did do it for a period of time. I did go on a few dates. One guy I dated off and on for about a year and a half, off and on. Wow. I did date another guy who I still keep in touch with to this day. He's super nice. I, you know. Yeah. I think it can be good. But I am with you, Kathy,

where I would really like to meet someone the old-fashioned way. And I would say in my age group in particular, what I found from the dating apps were just a bunch of men who wanted to have sex. That's all it was. Men these days are so quick to send you pictures of their private parts. They fast forward or you just get the ones who aren't real and just want to message you for a month on end. Well, they really like you to send a check to them for, you know.

Right. Or that or it's just some. old man who's married at home at 90s board. You know what I mean? You know, I'm ready for advice on this because honestly, I get out. I have friends. I go out for dinner. I go out to bars. I do a lot of dating, give myself a lot of opportunities to date. But the thing where I need help is how do you, how do you meet men organically? I think it's where you could give me, some advice because you've been around. I've been around, but I've been married, you know, for a long time, too.

Yeah, I don't know, Kathy. I do believe that you should give the dating apps a shot. I believe that you are putting yourself out there. I also, as cuckoo as the sounds, like, let everybody call it what it is. Like, I believe we're all destined for a path, and it may just not be in your path right now, Kathy. You are meant for something else. You are meant to do all of these things, right? You did the Golden Bachelor.

Then you did Paradise. Now you're doing this podcast. You know what I mean? there could be a point in your life that you are destined for more and you are not fully open into a space to have someone. I'm not God. I'm not going to tell you what that is, but these are the things that go on in my twisted mind. Whatever my path is, I just want to be on that. Well, let me ask you, do you ever think, I mean, I will tell you the thought has crossed my mind that I am, people always accuse me of being friends of friend zoning men. I don't think I do.

but maybe maybe that's maybe that's is my path i don't know i but i i know that where i was when i was your age and when i was in my 30s i wanted that man 24-7 that is something that i'm now thinking about do i want a man 24-7 do i want a man to live with me or do i like waking up and reading my book in my bed sometimes till 10 in the morning you know or going to bed when i want to go to bed. But I do think at our age and my age, a relationship can look differently. Do you feel like it can at your age or not? Absolutely. And I've shared this multiple, multiple times on the podcast is that, A, I don't know. I definitely don't want more children. B, I don't know that I want marriage. And also, C, like, I don't know that I want to cohabitate with anyone.

Permanently or at all? I don't know. I'm really on the fence about that. See, I would cohabitate. I don't think I need to live with someone full time. Susan from our show, you know, she has a long-distance boyfriend. I think that's, I don't think I could do that. Like, I know the parameters that I have. If I dated a guy in California, I would, in that, I'm sorry, I have to rewind my brain. Gary, Teresa, Joan, and Chalk, and Mel and Pegg, three couples who, to this, I mean, one's divorced, but the issue was always around living in the same

town and moving. And I actually don't have that issue. I would move wherever and then I would come back, keep my home here, and go back and forth. See, I'm, I think what I'm trying to say is I am much more flexible now because I don't have children at home like you do. I would think I'd be, but here's the rub. And I was talking to my guy friend about this the other day. He said, well, maybe you're just looking for friends with benefits. I said, no, no, no. I want the commitment. I want, but it doesn't mean I have to spend 24-7 with you.

It doesn't mean I want you to live in Paris and I'm living in Texas. But I feel like I'm so open to an evolved relationship because my kids are grown, because I'm retired. And I don't know if you're in that space or not. Well, obviously, you're not retired. I'm saying, I don't know if you're in the space. of looking at a relationship differently than your marriage? Here's the thing. I have been struggling with this as I've been dipping my toe back into dating because I'm

so used to, obviously, I was with my ex-husband for over 15 years, right? That's a long time. That's a large chunk of my life. I find, personally, that as women, we are raised and in our generation, It was you find a man, you take care of a home, you birthed his babies, you're barefoot and pregnant, and you take care of him. That's my generation. You're saying that's your generation?

I'm on the cusp of whether that was right or wrong. Okay. The matter is, Kathy, I never felt that in my soul. I always wanted more. I did not want to give up the chance to have a career. I wanted a husband. I was on the fence for a while about kids, but I love my children. but I never ever was fully comfortable being him the traditional values of what people

interpret the Bible to say. A man is the leader of the home, the women is subordinate, and then everything else in line. I never felt really comfortable with that. That's just like to my core, that's not how it is. That's just not how I feel. That's not the relationship that I want. I do, on the other hand, believe that we are built for partnership and companionship. I do believe in monogamy.

I do absolutely believe in that. I believe that the Lord designed us to have partnership, to refine ourselves, and be able to live a life with another human being. Now, let me get twisted for a second. I also believe we can have many great loves of our life, right? I have had that young, crazy love, right? That high school sweetheart. I've had that. I loved that man more than like.

Me too. It was the sick part, the butterflies, you know what I mean? That unhealthy love where I was just like, I needed him. I couldn't, I had to be with him. Like it gave me the butterflies. It gave me the craziness. It gave me all of those things. I've had the mid-20s love where I was really unsure.

I've had that, that when I met my ex-husband, the one that I thought was going to change my life. This one was it. This one was the one, the person that I chose to be my partner and have children with. So I am sharing that with you in a sense that like, I think this is where I'm getting confused in dating right now because I don't have that piece when the few people that I have dated to where they come in and they blow me away. But I believe that is because I am different. I have matured. I am in a place in my life just like you that I don't really need a man. Do you know what I mean? I don't need the kids. I don't need the diamonds. I can buy them on my own. It is a desire to

have someone to share my life with. So therefore, I am confusing the two because I have had the opportunity to date some really great guys, the guy that I saw off and on for a year and a half, he was wonderful and he was emotionally safe and great in bed, all of the wonderful things. But in the long run, we did not line up. For me, what I felt was going to last a period of time, this man. Well, so in therein, I think that is maybe a difference in age or maybe, again, I don't know. Can you have both, Kathy? Can you have someone who's really wonderful, who shows up, who buys you an amazing bouquet of flowers, who takes care of you, who takes you out to dinner, who never asked you to pay for a dime, and is also amazing

in bed? Or do you have to choose? Do you have to pick one or the other? Who knows? But I think maybe, again, our experiences help define who we are. Our past helps define who we are in the present and our future. So I think your situation was very different than mine. I think maybe that's why you're struggling to jump into this because you don't want to have what you had before and you see that as a negative like it was rough. I look at the positive, I don't know, for me, not that my marriage was perfect, you show me a perfect marriage and I'll show you two liars, but I had a good marriage and a great man. Having said that, where I look as is this vessel, I'm an open vessel now.

and I'm looking for that person who will walk with me, who will enjoy things with me, because I'm at a time in my life that I can do that. I don't need any more diamonds. I don't need all the trappings. I don't need a guy who's living on Social Security alone either. But I'm saying, but Ben asked me that. He said, well, I'm saying I'm looking for the guy to spend this last great chapter with. He said, why does it have to be one guy?

I'll tell you why, because I believe that for me, I'm not interested in serial dating. I'm interested in a monogamous relationship. And if I have a monogamous relationship, I feel like I'm old enough to know when I find the right one. I'll know that he's right because I'm taking all those past experiences I've had into this relationship. And that's why for me, when I go out on a date with a guy, I can. can tell you very quickly whether there's and that's why this guy east coast guy that's why he's still

in my head because I could see a future with him I could see it's just you know time means everything kind of thing not the right time Kathy maybe he will pop in and it'll feel right maybe now is just not the right time you know what here's the thing you're a freaking catch Kathy and so am I and we're at a point in our lives that we do get to be picky right we're not trying to have someone's babies we're not trying to get married. Yeah, but wait a minute. You're just, I've got to call you on this, Deanna. I keep calling you Deanna.

For everybody out there, I call her Deanna because my sister in the last name is Deanna, not Deanna. So now I'm going back to D. You've, it's seemingly have this guy. So what is in your way here? I'm in my own way because I think too much, because I don't want to ruin a friendship, because I'm scared about the age difference.

I'm in my own way. You won't know unless you jump in and try. Here's the thing. He's very patient. I haven't scared him off yet. And I am a thousand percent. Everything that I am telling you are things that I have said to him. I would not be saying anything to you right now that I have not already brought to his attention. So if he knows us about you and he's still willing, he's in. That should tell you he's in. I know. wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your

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all your fabulous friends that you spend and yes albeit girlfriends what makes this friendship with him so special that you're afraid to quote unquote risk it i think because we have mutual friends. Do you know what I mean? And I am traumatized by a divorce. Oh, so it could get messy. It's not really the friendship. It could get messy. Yeah. You know what? There's so much fallout with divorce, like friends that chose sides, friends that I don't speak to anymore. And those were, it wasn't just the loss of my marriage. It was the loss of family. It was the loss of friendship. I grieved on multiple levels. That was so very hard for me. And it's the same thing with this. We have mutual friends. we see each other pretty frequently

and a lot of our mutual friends do not know that we have moved into more of a dating. So you see it sort of as a Venn diagram that we're going to grow trees out of this branches and you don't want to cut off branches. And the fallout scares me

if it doesn't work out. If I wake up tomorrow and I'm like, oh man, I don't know, your age difference. I'm scared to see you naked. You know what I mean? Like the age difference really gets to me. Okay, now you're hitting close to home here, Dee. When you talk about it?

I don't know. I will say to you that If that's how you feel, you're always, it seems like you're going to find a reason. The next guy, you know, maybe doesn't know your friends. And, you know, I mean. Right before I get to decide that I don't want to. So we said this before. There are lessons and everything.

This man, for whatever reason, is meant to teach me lessons. And he has been really wonderful to me. He does. Does he live in the same town? He does. Yeah. Yeah, not far from here. Yes.

Seriously. I know. I know. He's really great. Okay. I need you to bring him to jingle ball so I can have a little chat with him because I'm a yenta. It terrifies me to bring him around other people. The judgment from others really terrifies me. Are they going to think he's good enough? Are they going to think he's good looking enough? Are they going to think I'm good enough for him? Guess what matters. Guess what matters? I'm being your mother. What matters is do you think he's good enough for you? And does he think you're good enough from it matters what you guys think of each other that's girl talk that is girl chat

right there the same thing to him you also get to decide this is not a one-way street he did decide dairy he has decided so you know now you're going to strap on your big girl boots here and decide you know whether or not you're willing to go down the road but but as someone who would love the opportunity of going down the road i'm thinking what the hell is wrong with you and i said not and There's nothing wrong with you, by the way. There are things wrong with me, Kathy. No, can we be positive here? Can we be positive?

I say that in the best way. Well, we all have issues, but you have this guy who is sending you flowers, who is calling you, who knows what you do for a living, who is saying, I know you, I know all your foibles, I know your children, I know your friends, and I want to go down this road with you, and you're sitting there saying, you know, what are you on aisle one? Are you the guy on aisle? Yeah, but maybe on aisle six? This guy is standing at the checkout line waiting for you.

What, you know, you got to think about it's, it's me, Kathy. I am holding back. What if it's not all there, right? The friendship is really great. We have wonderful conversations. I will like. You've already, wait, you've already made it a foregone conclusion, which I think is wrong, by the way, that should you date him, let's just call him Joe, supermarket Joe, we've heard

that before. Let's just say you date Joe. And then three months in, you know what? you as an adult and a beautiful, strong woman, and Joe over there can say, you know what, we tried, but we're going to go back to being friends. That's where our lane is. That's where we fit best. And you know what? Your other friends are going to support that because they love you and they care about you. So don't, I would encourage you to not blame what if this, what of that. You never know unless you go down the road of trying. And a year from now, I hope we're sitting on this

podcast and you're saying, I can't believe it worked out. I can't believe. Do you remember a year ago, Kathy, when I was saying I was so afraid, you know, to go down that road with him, all of those things. It could be everything you want all wrapped into one little package, great sex, great romance, a guy who cares about you who will treat you well, who will love your children, who will do the dishes, who'll bring you coffee in bed, whatever it is your dreams are. He could be just standing there, you know waiting for you to wake up i know and it's all me i am scared i am scared i i am i am a hundred percent scared i am well you're the only one that can change you my darling i know do you get all of it kathy do you get every bit do you get the we never get every bit d nobody

asking you what do i have to figure out in places where like that's not as important to me do you get you're like you'll know you're not even giving him the chance to show you for example, maybe your thing is, and I'm being funny here, but maybe your thing is, I can't stand it when my husband left the dishes on the sink and didn't put him in the dishwasher. And now you're with this guy, you're rolling out of bed, you know, he bought you a great Christmas present, you're on a week's vacation in Porto Vallarta, and you know what? You get home and he leaves the dishes in the sink and you'll sit there laughing. Why did I ever think that was such a big thing?

because he'll give you enough of everything else you want. I'm trying to get you to think on the positive side here. Stop looking for pitfall. Stop looking for the train wreck that isn't there. Let me ask you, have you kissed him yet? I have. Can he kiss? Yeah.

It's good? Yeah, it was good. Well, you know what? If his kissing is good as you move down, he's probably just fine. I mean, give it a chance. I want you to give it a chance. You know, there's a lot of fish in the CD, but a lot of them are carp. And, you know, you found this beautiful eel stare.

I mean, I'm trying to think of a pretty fish. You know, he's standing there saying, come on, come on. And you're sitting here giving you a thousand reasons why you shouldn't try. I'm saying you only have one reason to try. I do many things well. I can do this and put my life out there and be really vulnerable really well to a bunch of people who I don't know who are listening to podcast. I can do it with you. In the most intimate places in my life, the walls are really thick. Those are the hardest ones to come down. I can be open and honest with you and go on a

television show and do a podcast and do all of that and be true to myself and all of those aspects. But then you put me in a situation where exactly what I am hoping for shows up and the walls are so thick because I'm really scared. I'm really, really scared. ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive serial killers, but it wasn't until 2023 when he was finally caught. The answers were there, hidden in plain sight. So why did it take so long to catch him? I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster, hunting the Long Island serial killer, the investigation into the most notorious killer in New York, since the son of Sam, available now. Listen for free on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your

podcasts. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, Do I Have Scurvy at 3 a.m? On Health Stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health. But also what our health says about us and the way we're living.

Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are. pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in-depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are. Oh, it's hard to explain to the rest of the world that you, like, your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like, you don't even know. You don't know. You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to health stuff on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday. A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market. What does a bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy? Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsize indicators of inflation. What's behind Elon Musk's trillion dollar payout? There's a sort of concerted effort to message that Musk is coming back. He's putting politics aside. He's left the White House.

And what can the PCE tell you that the CPI can't? CPI tries to measure out-of-pocket costs that consumers are paying for things, whereas the PCE index that the Fed targets is a little bit broader of a measure. Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do you get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband,

and maybe, most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story. From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York, it's a long ways. On the podcast starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you in a journey to Desi's life. The moments it has overlapped with mine, how he redefined American television,

and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like hours on screen. This is the story of how one man's spotlight lit the path for so many others and how we carry his legacy today. Listen to starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast,

or wherever you get your podcast. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor

unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about.

It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. Let's reverse the tables here for a second. What if this were me?

What if the tables were turned? And I was saying, Dee, I met this guy, the most gorgeous. Boy, I'm going to put out, I'm putting this out of the university if it happens. I met this great guy. He's a great kisser. He's a little bit. He's 12 years younger than I am. Let's just, let's just. Yeah, he's 12 years younger, but he sent me flowers. He loves me.

We have mutual friends, but I'm so afraid, what would you tell me to do? I would tell you to go for it. Hello. I know. Get that beautiful mirror, mirror on the wall, look in it and say, I can do this. Because the upside potential D is amazing. Like, this is what, by the way, this is what women do. I think, which makes women's friendships different from men's.

I think I am supporting you because I think you are a lovely kind. You have so much to offer. And I'm encouraged you to go down this road and be vulnerable because this may be the guy at the checkout stand. You know, he may be. And if you don't take the risk, you're never going to know. And so. Thank you, Kathy.

It is easy for me, as my friend, to take those compliments. It is easy for me. It is easy for me to project. that and say, I know that I'm a real catch. It is not easy for me in an intimate relationship like that to accept that, to allow someone to treat me. We are going to continue working on that because you know what? It's getting to be the end of the year. 2026 is around the corner. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? No, I don't do resolutions. And I have welcomed a new year. I have been ready to wash the last year off of me. Let it be gone. I am welcoming a new year.

I believe that I am as close to my path as my soul's purpose is supposed to be. Well, you're going to get closer if that guy comes to the jingle ball. I'm going to make sure of it. But it's funny you say that I don't have any resolutions. I just hope that this has been a great year for me, even though I haven't, you know, found the person that's going to walk with me down that Sunnybrook Road. But I've had lots of great experiences and that's what I want in 2026. And I think what I realize with each passing year, it's on me to make every year great, every day great.

I can't rely on somebody else. I don't rely on my kids or my friends. I look to myself to make my days and my years the best they can be. You're a freaking catch, Kathy. Well, so are you. It's in the cards for both of us. You are a freaking catch. We are a freaking catch.

Well, I think the king in the deck has found you. Well, let's not put the cart before the horse, okay? Everybody slow down. We'll see if I bring him to Jingleball or not. Okay. All right. So tell me what you want in the new year. I know you don't make resolutions, but tell me, tell me what I would like to see happen

to be in the new year is, finish that sentence. What I would like to see happen to me in the new year is peace. I would like peace in my life. I am tired of the highs and I am tired of lows. I want to finally for the first time in my life. be riding at a level pace that's never happened for me ever wow no yeah i think i think for me what i want in the new year is continued good health and opportunities to just keep enjoying life yeah um and and obviously you know finding that person but just keep having experiences that

where i can i can be a one of the things that i've liked in the last year is people coming up to me and saying, I've given them hope. I like being that beacon of light that shows people who are golden that there is life after 60. There is life after 70. So I want to keep doing that. My wish is for you, I'm going to tell you what my wish for you is, that you will find a way to calm the fear in your brain and take some good risk for yourself. Thanks, Kathy. I love you. I love you too. I'm looking forward. to seeing you in a couple of weeks, whether we're on a date together or we're on a date with someone else. Well, one thing I can be sure of you and I are not going on a date.

But I mean, we don't have a romantic relationship, but we get to be friends and have the best time ever. You're right. And I wish you a very happy Thanksgiving, you and your family, and I cannot wait to see it, Jingle Ball. Me too, Kathy. This is so wonderful to see you. Happy Thanksgiving love. Thanks, sweetie. On this week's episode of next chapter, I, T.D. Jake, sit down with Denzel Washington, a two-time Academy Award-winning actor and cultural icon for a conversation about change, identity, and the moment everything shifted. I mean, I don't take any credit for it. It's nothing I did as special.

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