The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Debunking the Rumors with Salley Carson

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

It's so hard to defend yourself in front of millions of eyeballs who think they know you from what they see on TV, but Salley Carson is here to set the record straight. She's clarifying her timeline o...f events from her days on Clayton's season plus sharing how she transitioned from "The Bachelor" down south to "Southern Charm." See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcast with IHart Radio. Hello, everyone. Welcome to another mini episode of The Almost Famous Podcast. Today we have Sally Carson. You may know her from Clayton's season. She was the video. girl that kept running away. She was our runaway bride. Sally was the one that was like, do I want to be here? No, I don't want to be here. And she left. And then she did it again in Bachelor in Paradise in 2022. And now she's on Southern Charm on Bravo. And she's not running away. First off, let's talk Bachelor. When we saw you running away, was that all legit? Were you just really scared to do the show and you were just uncertain at all times? Or was there some behind the scenes
Starting point is 00:02:58 you weren't seeing. You know that there was a boy at home that you weren't sure whether you wanted to be with him or not. Yes. So it actually happened so fast. So I was engaged. And then none of the Bachelor franchise knew this. But like he cheated on me 30 days before the wedding.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I found out through DM. And I got a call from The Bachelor, like a week after I canceled my wedding. Did they who, what friend submitted you for this? I don't know. It was anonymous. Okay, but it was somebody. For some reason, I feel like it's the girl that damned me because she felt so bad that I canceled my wedding and stuff. I don't know, though.
Starting point is 00:03:38 That's just like my thought. Aw. The one that cheated. Yeah. The cheatee. That one. She's like, I have a consolation price for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Hey, you know what? If he didn't cheat with her, he was probably going to cheat with someone else and she probably got you out of a bad situation. That's right. That's right. So, yeah, they called, and I was like, kind of in this mindset of like, I'm going, I'm going to go do this for myself. Like, I deserve it. I get out there.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And the whole process was like super rushed. I know people were confused on my timeline. Well, lots of people, the speculation before this season even started was that there was this girl and she canceled her wedding to be on the bachelor. That was the rumor about you. Yes. And I'm sure that's the one that my ex would love to be out there and not this one. But, yeah, I mean, when he was at work one day, I called my wedding planner, I canceled the wedding, and then, you know, I don't even know, a week or two weeks later, I was on a flight at L.A.
Starting point is 00:04:36 And I got there, and, you know, they isolate you in the rooms. Yeah. So I started to just kind of panic a little bit. And I was like, what am I doing? I've had some time to really process all this. I'm still in love with my ex. Why am I here? All the feels, because it was supposed to my wedding weekend.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then, yeah, they were like, if you want to leave, you have to go see him. Wait, if you want to leave. If I want to leave, I have to go break up with Clayton. Okay. Yeah. Even though we didn't really start dating yet. Yeah. So I went there.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It was like four nights before the limos. Right. I think they made it seem like it was like the night before, but it was not. And we actually had like a really good chat. And then I genuinely got confused sitting in front of him. I was like, wait, this guy's kind of great. Do I want to stay? And I was like, no, like, I got to stick to my, like, I'm not ready to be here.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I can't, like, go and get engaged again, you know. Yeah. So I left. And then I got back together with my eggs. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Ah! And how long did that last for?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Not long, because the same result happened again. A new girl? Yep. Oh, see, I told you he was going to do this. I know. Learned my lesson, though. And so then I went on Bachelor in Paradise. And we were still not convinced with him because I remember there was a visit to his house. Yes. So I actually genuinely did work with him. So he was like my main surgeon at the time. So you are a medical sales route?
Starting point is 00:06:14 I don't sell anything. I control the robot. I also got a lot of shit for that. But I control a robot in spine surgery. It doesn't do the surgery. It's just like a guidance system for the servant, so he's very much still in control. But yeah, so I like went and had a conversation
Starting point is 00:06:34 with him before I left, and again, the whole process was super rushed. And one of the things that the producers told me was that he would not, his name would not be spoken about because, you know, I didn't want to bring his life into The Bachelor again.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I didn't want all the articles coming out about him again, which they ended up doing anyways. And I get there in the first thing the girls start asking me is about him. So I was just, I'm going to remove myself because it was just toxic. And my producer was nowhere to be found. She, like, ran. But they followed you home, the cameras, right? No. they didn't no did you self-shoot some stuff i don't think so no man wow i'm making up something in my
Starting point is 00:07:26 memory i don't think well they had that whole skit okay thank you that was it i knew i knew i had something visual in my memory so much for that skit but that is like it was just very embellished and like it was funny but it was you know just not the full truth okay your whole storyline was quite entertaining. So thanks for good reality TV. Yeah, it was super messy and the suitcase was hilarious too. I was cracking up. That's right. Oh, yeah. You had supposedly like lost your suitcase and it had the dildo in it.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Well, yeah. Well, no, that was that was not a real suitcase. No, I know. I know that. I know it's a plant, but yes, they tried to pretend as if people who watch the show and take things literally too literally would, yes, they would think that you really did leave a suitcase there with a dildo. I know you, I knew you didn't. Anna Vale.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I'm like, who would, what? It just made sense. The fact that the girls went along and acted with it, it was just silly. I know. All right. So then you got called on to the Bravo shows. Is it because they saw you on The Bachelor and they're like, this girl is wonderful reality TV? No.
Starting point is 00:08:37 No. So, well, with Southern hospitality, I actually met Joe Bradley randomly at a bar here Charleston and I had no idea. I didn't even know about the show about Southern Hospitality. Didn't know about Joe. I had just moved here. I met him and he just walked up to me and I remember he was like hey you're cute and I was like damn he's kind of cute too. And me and him I had a friend that worked at a Republican and he said that they had VIP host opportunities and the show was never like presented to me at all but me and Joe started hanging out so then I became in a few clips on Southern House Valley but I was never a cast member or anything. And then
Starting point is 00:09:16 Southern Charm came about through my friend Madison. So I just, you know, I'm good friends with Madison, better friends with her now. But, you know, that's just kind of how that landed into my lap. But I've never, like, I never really tried to be on all these shows. And I think that's what everyone has a problem with. It's they're like, this girl is just chasing clout and chasing reality TV. And I'm like, I know how it looks. You're like, I have fallen into these opportunities.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. They just keep coming, and I'm like, why would I say no? You know? Yeah. This season on Southern Charm, you've had a lot of drama revolve around you, Taylor, and Gaston. Yes. How have you been handling this? How has the fan response been?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Honestly, it's been very positive towards me, at least. I mean, obviously, there's always going to be that one negative Nancy that wants to say some stuff. but I have honestly kind of just, you know, I don't, it's kind of hard right now after filming cuts because, you know, you hear things because Charleston's such a small town and, you know, I hear that her and him are just around town running their mouths about me, but, you know, I just try to, I'm trying to just keep them out of my mouth and I hope the best for her and I hope she's happy in that relationship. It's not the experience that I had. And I think that, you know, it rubbed her the wrong way
Starting point is 00:10:43 that I had some negative things to say about her man, which it would rub anyone the wrong way, but that's my experience. And that's what I lived through with him, and it might not be what she's going through. I hope it's not what she's going through. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK story time. podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. It's even more likely
Starting point is 00:11:31 that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The U.S. Open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure? Billy Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know.
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Starting point is 00:14:38 Every Tuesday on the exactly right network Listen to bananas on the Iheart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Is there any more drama That you can tease for the upcoming part of the season? Just the whole like You know, I don't really think that me and Taylor, we tried to get along for the rest of the season, and we kind of coexisted because we wanted to be, you know, around our friend group and not have any drama, really. But the whole Shep and Sienna thing is weird.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That's what I was going to ask about. Yeah. So what are your thoughts about that relationship? Did you think it was going to be a little off from the get? Yes, absolutely. Since the moment I met. heard the dog party. I was like, this girl is not into him. And I don't know. I felt so bad for him because Shep is amazing. And, you know, love Shep, but we go way back. And I mean, she just, anyone with eyes could see that she just was not interested in him, except for him. So that gets kind of messy in the Bahamas. And it does really make you feel bad for the guy. Are you still with the boyfriend that we've seen you with in the teasers, the little glimpses of this season?
Starting point is 00:16:08 No. No. Okay. So you're single. Yeah, I got cheating on again. How does that happen? Hmm, we have to work on your picker, I guess. Yeah, maybe I'm the problem. I really know how to pick up. But, yeah, that did last long. Are we going to document any more of your love life? Not this season, no, but maybe next season. All right. Is that a greenlit season? Oh, is it what? is it like happening happening um not not currently now okay okay but there's speculation that it will happen yeah you'll be part of it yes okay wonderful yeah yeah i don't know if i'm allowed to say that we love a breaking news story here sure yeah so i don't really know i've just been kind of after that
Starting point is 00:16:57 breakup i've just been living you know a real single life in jarlson having a little bit too much fun i am kind of hanging out with someone right now, but it's super fresh and new. So I don't really know where that's going. Do you still work with your ex? No. God, no. Okay. Okay. I was like, we're not on speaking terms. Okay. I guess I wasn't sure about your job and him. You moved, you moved on from that job. Yeah, no. I know I still have the job. I've actually been doing the job for seven years. I'm on my seven years. But you move locations, I'm assuming. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. And you still are working a full-time job in the medical field while recording the show.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, it's fun. It's, you know, my, my hospital job, my medical job comes first. So, like, if there was ever a time where I had to choose between the two, it would definitely be my medical career because I love it so much. I work with kids a lot, and it's just a very rewarding job. Where I love Southern Farm, too, it's very fun, but it's more, you know, fun and chaotic and messy rather than, you know. business forwarded. It's so amazing. Yeah. So it's been great. I love that. If you had to compare
Starting point is 00:18:10 your reality experiences, like we're talking the production side, what's the difference between the two shows, The Bachelor, of course, and Southern Charm? Oh my God. It's 90. It's not. Like, I actually have so much fun like filming for Southern Charm and working with the producers and they've become like some of my good friends. Whereas on The Bachelor, it was. was honestly pretty brutal. I'm sorry you had an experience. I mean, you experienced it too. Yeah, I know, but I loved it.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Really? I loved it all. And I made like really good friends with them. And I did four seasons. And I've always felt so comfortable with them. And I know everybody has their different experiences. Yeah. But yeah, I just, oh, I love, I love so many of them.
Starting point is 00:18:57 They're not, most of them aren't there anymore. Like, like 80% of them that I would consider. friends are no longer there but which i loved some of them but my main girl she ended up yeah pretty sure she got fired but she was just she was just kind of brutal oh i'm so sorry but i love the other ones and like i've had experiences on other reality shows where i be like this is the fakesest shit ever and i always felt like the bachelor felt more real but then it's interesting to talk about people from other shows and you feel like your show you're showing you're is more real than The Bachelor was.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I did stars on Mars, and that was like, actually, it was two hands-off. Production was two hands-off for me because I felt like when I was doing confessionals, I felt like I was talking to myself. I wasn't having a rapport with anyone, and I didn't like that. I didn't like the way I didn't feel like I had support outside of the cast. Because sometimes you want somebody to talk to you outside of the people who are, you know, you're filling with. I didn't feel like that.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And then with, I did, oh, I did a million-dollar matchmaker, which was like million-dollar matchmaker with Patty Stanger. And that was years ago. Oh, my gosh. I was like eight years ago. But that felt, that was so fake feeling. Like that was scripted. It was like everything was coming out of the earpiece.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So it was just like, it's crazy how every reality show is different. Yeah. I think it's, and I did feel like The Bachelor was real. I mean, obviously some circumstances. were kind of forced or pushed on, but like, everything I said on there was true. Like, they never forced me to say anything. I was very much myself on there. And then, but Southern Charm, I feel like it's so, we're all so comfortable because we are
Starting point is 00:20:48 actually a good group of friends. And there is actually, like, I mean, in every group of large group of friends, there's going to be drama. So it's like, it's like a little family. And, you know, we don't really need much force or push for things to happen. Yeah. How many did you know before this show? Pretty much all of them in a weird, twisted way. Have you lived there your whole life?
Starting point is 00:21:13 No, I've only lived here for almost three years. But I had like a one-night stand with Shep. And then like Whitney and J.T. Is it really a one-night stand if they continue to be in your life? I guess not. I never slavoured them again. We had a one-night stand. thing. Does that get weird?
Starting point is 00:21:34 No. Will ever happen again? I mean, never say never. I don't think so. She's not against it, guys. I don't think so. He does look better now than when I got with him. That's for sure. He was like a mess when I got with him a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:21:51 He was just, you know, drinking a lot and sloppy. He's cleaned up his act. Well, we have one headline I want to go over with you before we let you go. I think this is from People magazine says Southern Charms Sally Carson removes breast implants. She got for her ex. I thought that's what he liked. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say I necessarily got them for him, but I became very insecure in the relationship because of the other women he was looking at, like online and like Instagram.
Starting point is 00:22:26 This is the ex-fiance. Yeah. Yeah. So this was a few years ago. And, yeah, so he just was looking at all these girls that, like, didn't resemble me. And I was like, what the hell? Like, does he not like me? And it just made, I think it just broke me down after a year or so.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And I was, like, super insecure. And I was like, I'm going to do this. So I did it. I actually did it right before going on Bachelor in Paradise. And then I just got him out. I just got my breast implants out. That is the new move. It seems like lots of women are getting their implants out.
Starting point is 00:23:01 out, whether it's for toxicity reasons or otherwise, just like, you know, aesthetic reasons, why did you get them out because they weren't you? I got them out. They weren't causing any issues, but I just felt like I finally found, like, my confidence again and myself, and I'm, like, very happy with who I am. And I just am like, these are not me anymore. And I got them for the wrong reasons in the first place. And I just, I want basically cleansing.
Starting point is 00:23:31 myself of anything that reminded me of my ex. So, yeah. Perfectly put. Yeah. All right. Well, Sally, thank you so much for joining us. It's nice to meet you. It's so nice to meet you. I know. You love it. You're very sweet girl. Oh, thank you. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Bye. Bye. See you guys. Till next time, I've been Ashley. Toul-l-l-l-Loo. Follow the Ben and Ashley I, almost famous podcast on IHart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That seems inappropriate. Maybe. Find out how it ends by listening to the OK Storytime. podcast and the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle.
Starting point is 00:24:38 The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy-truthers believe in... I guess they would be Kenspiracy theorists. That's right. They gave you the answers, and you still blew it. The puzzler. Listen on the eye-heart. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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