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Episode Date: November 1, 2025What really goes on during sorority / fraternity date parties, exchanges, mixers, formals???  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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                                        Welcome to Dirty Rush
                                         
                                        The Truth About Sorority Life
                                         
                                        with your host
                                         
                                        me, Gia Judice
                                         
                                        Daisy Kent and Jennifer Fessler
                                         
                                        Hi guys
                                         
                                        Welcome to another episode of Dirty Rush.
                                         
                                        Today, we are diving into one of the wildest and most unforgettable parts of Greek life.
                                         
    
                                        We're talking about date parties.
                                         
                                        From epic themes and chaotic night to the awkward pairings and unexpected drama,
                                         
                                        we are breaking down the good, the bad, and everything in between.
                                         
                                        So we're going to have some callers on this episode.
                                         
                                        So now we are bringing in the lovely grace.
                                         
                                        So I'm thinking you were a sorority girl.
                                         
                                        Yes, I was.
                                         
                                        Where did you go to school?
                                         
    
                                        I went to UCLA.
                                         
                                        So we are talking today about date parties.
                                         
                                        And we're just talking about kind of sometimes the chaos of them, the themes of them.
                                         
                                        You know, was there pressure if you didn't have a date, you know, trying to find one or getting asked to one?
                                         
                                        How are your experiences with date parties?
                                         
                                        So I feel like in terms of finding a date, it was kind of well-rounded.
                                         
                                        Which I feel like isn't very normal at other schools, but at UCLA, it was kind of like in the beginning, like freshman and sophomore year, you, everybody was like fighting a date because everybody wanted to be taking like a cute frat boy that they just knew of or thought was cute or whatever.
                                         
                                        And then as time went on and you get older into like your junior and your senior year, everybody stops caring about like who to take.
                                         
    
                                        take because at UCLA, Greek life is so small. So by the time you reach your junior and senior year,
                                         
                                        you kind of already know everybody. But there is this one date party that is pretty crazy
                                         
                                        that I feel like is very unique to UCLA, which is called crush. But basically, you get to choose
                                         
                                        three dates that you want to invite and you like list them from like one to three of like one
                                         
                                        being you want to take them the most three is like the person you want to take the least out of your
                                         
                                        three options and then this committee appointed by the sorority called the crush committee
                                         
                                        basically calls the list of guys and they go from number one down to number three and they start
                                         
                                        with number one and they're like a girl as requested for you to be her date she wants you to come
                                         
    
                                        the crush do you accept and you have no idea who invited you the guys don't know who have okay so
                                         
                                        they don't know who asked them exactly they have no idea who asked them they just know that somebody
                                         
                                        asked okay and then every grade dresses to a different theme so like like one year our theme was like
                                         
                                        goes under and so it was like one grade was under the sheets so everybody were like pajamas
                                         
                                        one grade was like under the sea so everybody was like sea themed and everybody has
                                         
                                        a different grade so like when they call your date they're like all you get to know is the theme so you get
                                         
                                        to know what grade of the person that invited you but that's it okay and do they also dress to theme
                                         
                                        yes so they have to so basically like all the girls get all get ready together everybody's like so
                                         
    
                                        excited um and like everybody picks out really cute outfits and whatever and we all take one bus
                                         
                                        and then all the guys have to meet at like a set location and they all have to take a bus
                                         
                                        together but like they don't know who invited them all they know is like the theme of what
                                         
                                        they're dressing to but they just get on this bus with a bunch of random guys going to a venue
                                         
                                        that they don't know to meet a bunch of girls and they have no idea who they're like
                                         
                                        technically going there to meet that actually sounds like so much fun I think that's hilarious
                                         
                                        So what happens to the guys that get like two girls had them on the list and one is a freshman and one is a sophomore and they have to do under the sea and under the sheet?
                                         
                                        Like how do you then just the guy get to choose?
                                         
    
                                        Is there, does it get competitive like that?
                                         
                                        I think in that case it would probably go based off of like seniority.
                                         
                                        Like whoever is in the higher grade probably gets like priority of ranking.
                                         
                                        But I don't know how often that happens, but it does happen.
                                         
                                        occasionally where like the same guy gets invited by two girls in the same grade and then
                                         
                                        the girls don't really know which of their dates out of like the list of three get asked so like
                                         
                                        both girls could have ranked a guy number one and then he shows up and both girls are like
                                         
                                        I ranked him number one like I want to hang out with him they all three get invited that you rank
                                         
    
                                        no so basically your top pick gets invited but like let's say your top pick um
                                         
                                        is already invited by somebody else, then your number two pick could get invited,
                                         
                                        but you could have the same number two pick because you chose like your guy best friend
                                         
                                        as like four other girls who also picked him because he was.
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        I'm getting such a headache.
                                         
                                        The end of the day.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Like in a good way.
                                         
                                        It's crazy.
                                         
                                        It's literally crazy.
                                         
                                        So everybody's kind of like, who's here for who?
                                         
                                        What's going on?
                                         
                                        And yeah, it's a crazy concept.
                                         
                                        So do you ever tell the guy you were my first pick?
                                         
                                        You are my like, how does it?
                                         
    
                                        Does it ever sort of like come out?
                                         
                                        Is it, or do you keep it kind of wrapped or?
                                         
                                        If you want to reveal it, you can.
                                         
                                        Or you could just go about everything saying nothing.
                                         
                                        Like, it's really up to you.
                                         
                                        And then.
                                         
                                        But it'll never come out if you don't want it to come out.
                                         
                                        So your friends don't even know.
                                         
    
                                        Like you write it down unless you tell them.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Most people will like tell each other or be like, let's invite or like plot to like invite a certain
                                         
                                        group of guys.
                                         
                                        But, like, if you don't tell your friends, they wouldn't know either.
                                         
                                        I mean, it actually sounds really fun.
                                         
                                        So you did this.
                                         
    
                                        This happens every year.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So you do this every year.
                                         
                                        And it's like the most coveted event.
                                         
                                        Like, girls will literally pay dues senior year only, like, for the.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        And did you ever either meet a guy there, end up hanging out with a guy that you didn't
                                         
                                        expect to?
                                         
    
                                        Was it a way for you to get to know guys that you kind of?
                                         
                                        wanted to get to know one one time when I was a freshman there was this boy that I really really
                                         
                                        liked we later on we started dating actually but before we were dating we just really liked
                                         
                                        each other whatever and so I invited him to crush and one of my older brother's best friends
                                         
                                        happened to also go to UCLA at the same time and get invited to crush
                                         
                                        and I was a freshman like I was like I wouldn't do this now but um at the time I had like
                                         
                                        started making out with the my the guy that I liked at the venue and it happened to be right
                                         
                                        in front of my older brother's best friend and my older brother's best friend like text my
                                         
    
                                        brother and he's like what is going on this is horrible like why am I route for this
                                         
                                        I'm being mortified oh my god that is hilarious
                                         
                                        I have to say the whole thing
                                         
                                        and I really shouldn't feel this way
                                         
                                        it's inappropriate makes you want to go
                                         
                                        back in time to UCLA
                                         
                                        and a crush party.
                                         
                                        So don't tell my husband
                                         
    
                                        but I love it.
                                         
                                        It sounds like it was so much fun.
                                         
                                        It was really fun.
                                         
                                        Thanks, Grace.
                                         
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                                        This is my offspring, Rache.
                                         
                                        So my girl was in a sorority at the University of Delaware.
                                         
                                        I don't know if you want to share the sorority, Rachel.
                                         
                                        I don't mind.
                                         
                                        I was in Alpha Fee at the University of Delaware.
                                         
                                        You were.
                                         
                                        And so you had a pretty good experience as a sorority girl at Delaware.
                                         
                                        aware? Yeah, I loved it. This episode, we are talking about date parties. And I know you had
                                         
    
                                        quite a few of those. Yes, every like three months. And I just, just so I kind of know, but like you
                                         
                                        had to, what is a date party exactly? Um, it's basically, they call it like formals or they
                                         
                                        call it crush. And you pick a date. Everyone puts their name on a date.
                                         
                                        date doc, and you have to have a certain amount of points in your sorority to be able to go.
                                         
                                        So if you're not going to, like, all the chapters, all the events and stuff, you won't be able to go.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And is it that big of a deal?
                                         
    
                                        They're that much fun.
                                         
                                        They're fun.
                                         
                                        It's like, some are better than others.
                                         
                                        I personally liked, like, frat formals better than sorority formals.
                                         
                                        Okay, so, but date parties, was it hard to find a date?
                                         
                                        Um, sometimes.
                                         
                                        A lot of people would just bring, like, girls.
                                         
                                        from another sorority.
                                         
    
                                        I also realized you could go alone.
                                         
                                        Oh, you could?
                                         
                                        Yeah, you could definitely go alone.
                                         
                                        You weren't a loser if you went alone.
                                         
                                        It was more fun for me, I think, when you brought a guy that you were interested in.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, you're bringing them to your date party.
                                         
                                        Everyone else has their dates.
                                         
    
                                        You all, like, get together before, drink, the bus ride.
                                         
                                        And then I feel like it also was a lot of like a guy he brought me to my frat formal.
                                         
                                        to his frat formal, so I'm going to bring him to my date.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, I remember that.
                                         
                                        Like, you had, like, kind of an obligation.
                                         
                                        Yeah, definitely.
                                         
                                        I don't know why, but I just remember before them for you, it was like, oh, well, for me,
                                         
                                        it was always torture.
                                         
    
                                        Who to bring, like, he brought me to his, but I really don't want to bring him to mine.
                                         
                                        It was, like, all these politics, or you would get invited to a couple of them or something,
                                         
                                        and you didn't know which.
                                         
                                        That would always happen when sometimes they would bring me to Thursday.
                                         
                                        I'm like, I don't want to bring you to mine.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Just get a little.
                                         
                                        That's a good problem to have, I suppose.
                                         
    
                                        And then sometimes there were like themes for the date nights, which a lot of the times
                                         
                                        there were off-campus date nights.
                                         
                                        They're called like off-campus mixers.
                                         
                                        So it would be like two frats and two sororities.
                                         
                                        And then there would be a theme.
                                         
                                        So you didn't have to bring a date to those.
                                         
                                        It was just kind of like an off-campus party.
                                         
                                        One of the themes I remember though.
                                         
    
                                        We had like Y2K.
                                         
                                        So like you dress that.
                                         
                                        up for them a lot of the date parties like yeah i liked the off-campus ones because they were just
                                         
                                        they were more fun by list rules so do you have any like crazy stories from any of them like on the
                                         
                                        bus or anything that happened well one time i brought a lunatic date um just got was so drunk the whole
                                         
                                        time it's also a thing like if you bring a date and they get wasted then you can get a j-board
                                         
                                        so like let's say i brought someone and they like made a fool out of themselves then i get in trouble
                                         
                                        So a j-board is when you get like disciplinary action or something.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But I feel like I always loved the before and after of the day parties.
                                         
                                        Like actually being at the day party was kind of just like you were drinking before.
                                         
                                        And then you've to sit on a bus for like an hour and a half because we usually go to Philly.
                                         
                                        And you have to pee or like drunk.
                                         
                                        It's just kind of annoying.
                                         
                                        And then you get there and goes by in like five seconds.
                                         
                                        But you go back and it's like a whole post game situation.
                                         
    
                                        I always loved that, especially being in the house.
                                         
                                        call it the fowse.
                                         
                                        What's the fouse?
                                         
                                        Alpha Fee house.
                                         
                                        Oh, wait.
                                         
                                        So hold on.
                                         
                                        So you bring this guy and he gets wasted.
                                         
                                        He was a lunatic.
                                         
    
                                        What do you do?
                                         
                                        Yeah, he just got like really wasted.
                                         
                                        It was just kind of making a fool of himself.
                                         
                                        Actually, I didn't get in trouble when he was there.
                                         
                                        But then I brought him, we all usually bring our dates back to the fouse after just to like hang out.
                                         
                                        And I brought him back.
                                         
                                        And he had a ring, like a ring camera.
                                         
                                        And he ended up going in on the porch and peeing on.
                                         
    
                                        the porch and I got a j-board.
                                         
                                        They're like, your date was peeing off the porch at 3 a.m.
                                         
                                        Was he somebody you were interested in before?
                                         
                                        Was he just a friend?
                                         
                                        He was just like a friend.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Sometimes I thought it was better bringing a friend because you were like, okay,
                                         
    
                                        I don't need to like have that pressure.
                                         
                                        Did you ever feel pressure when you would bring dates that weren't your boyfriend?
                                         
                                        Yeah, probably.
                                         
                                        Just that they would have fun, get along with everyone.
                                         
                                        Brought some bad dates.
                                         
                                        did? What do you mean?
                                         
                                        Just picky boys,
                                         
                                        assholes. Maybe if I went back, I would bring
                                         
    
                                        a girlfriend. So
                                         
                                        you're there and everybody's drinking
                                         
                                        and people, because I'm just, I'm trying to remember,
                                         
                                        I kind of do like, I don't remember a lot of nights
                                         
                                        where you come the next day you were like thrilled
                                         
                                        after a date party, whether or not he was a day,
                                         
                                        or you kind of like someone else and your date would get mad at you
                                         
                                        or there was always like something I feel like with them.
                                         
    
                                        I was also annoying because if you weren't 21 at these day parties, like, you couldn't drink there.
                                         
                                        So I thought when we turned 21, it was more fun because we'd be able to be at the bar and stuff.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                        They were never, like, my favorite.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I always feel like something always ended up happening to you're right.
                                         
                                        Like, there was just, like, drama.
                                         
    
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I also, do you remember when I told you the story, we had a date night, and afterwards, we were all in the bus, and I, like, dropped my.
                                         
                                        phone and I just like walked off the bus.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And it was like two weeks before school ended.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And I knew I dropped my phone.
                                         
    
                                        Like it was, it was on the floor.
                                         
                                        I just, I guess I walked out without it.
                                         
                                        Were you wasted?
                                         
                                        I mean, probably.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Rachel, you are the love of my life and now we say goodbye.
                                         
                                        Goodbye.
                                         
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                                        They turn on it.
                                         
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                                        All right, guys, now we're bringing in Michelle.
                                         
                                        So, Michelle, you may already know, but we are talking about.
                                         
                                        about date parties. And so you were in a sorority. I was a Sigma Kappa. Got it. And I'm assuming that
                                         
                                        you guys had date parties there. I mean, you know, Greek life is pretty big. Yes, it is super big.
                                         
                                        And it's been growing too. They add like a new sorority every few years. Really? Wow. About how many
                                         
    
                                        girls in your sorority just had a curiosity? Around 300. So our PCs in the beginning were like 90
                                         
                                        people each. Wow. Yeah, that's a lot. All right. So I want you to tell me a little bit about what
                                         
                                        date parties were like there. So date parties are very frequent. They have been every single weekend
                                         
                                        and there's always a mix of different frats and sororities. People have kind of their brother frats that
                                         
                                        they do a ton of events with. And then there's some random mixes, but they're always super fun. They get some
                                         
                                        crazy DJs and rent some venues and the themes are honestly my favorite part why why is that there's just
                                         
                                        such funny themes and some will have like the same theme every year so everyone is anticipating it and
                                         
                                        excited what was your favorite i love the kentucky derby theme oh i love that with like the hats and
                                         
    
                                        oh that's so fun yeah that was always a really fun one i love that so you said you had them i don't know
                                         
                                        I'm thinking all schools don't work like this, but you have them every weekend.
                                         
                                        So where you had to have a date, you always were either getting invited or inviting someone to yours.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so there's always one happening every weekend, not my sorority having one every weekend, but there's always something.
                                         
                                        Oh, got it. Okay. And did the girls ever invite, like, friends from other sororities?
                                         
                                        Yes, yeah, that happened all the time. I definitely did that a few times.
                                         
                                        You did, because I feel like it would be kind of like pressure if you don't have a boyfriend to like find a date every weekend.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        And honestly, sometimes it's more fun if you bring a friend than a boy.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        I have heard that.
                                         
                                        Do you have any crazy stories from any of the parties?
                                         
                                        Well, honestly, now that Kentucky Derby's on my mind, there was this one time when this frat called Lambda did the Kentucky Derby party and they partnered with Sigap, which they usually don't do.
                                         
                                        It's usually a solo date party.
                                         
                                        But in this instance, they partnered together and the boys made all of the freshmen wear potato sacks and do a race as if they were horses and they bet on them and everything.
                                         
                                        And the decor was crazy.
                                         
    
                                        All of the floor was hay.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm thinking they didn't want you a potato sacks the whole time.
                                         
                                        No, yeah, just for the race.
                                         
                                        Just for the race.
                                         
                                        But at the end, there was a fight about who won and who crossed the finish line first.
                                         
                                        and so they started physically fighting
                                         
                                        and it was the craziest thing ever.
                                         
                                        Okay, that's what happens when you mix
                                         
    
                                        crap boys and too much alcohol, I'm thinking.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        And then the rest of the party,
                                         
                                        there was like a side for each fraternity
                                         
                                        and it was so funny.
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        Okay, so that sounds sort of fun, also crazy.
                                         
                                        Yeah, definitely.
                                         
    
                                        Did you ever like meet a boy at one of these parties
                                         
                                        and start dating or like somebody else's date?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I definitely met a few boys at the date parties,
                                         
                                        but nothing that really last.
                                         
                                        Okay. Okay. So, but was it, it was, did you sometimes feel the pressure of finding someone for them or was it more? Yeah. Yeah. I was in a friend group of like eight girls. And so if they were bringing boys, like if the majority was bringing boys, then we would all find boys to go. But sometimes we would just make it like a girl's night and that would be super fun too. But yeah, there's definitely pressure if your friends are also bringing boy dates. Yeah. No, I remember that with my daughter. You know, having to sort of like figure.
                                         
                                        out who and I don't know because now I'm you know an old mother type and so I always feel like
                                         
                                        what if you can't find a date that must feel awful you know it's so stressful for no reason because at
                                         
                                        the end of the day your sorority is there or like you know people there anyways and it ends up being
                                         
    
                                        fun good I love that okay well I really appreciate you're joining us Michelle listen you guys
                                         
                                        there are so many callers that want to talk to us about date parties so it's just
                                         
                                        like put a pin in it. We'll do another episode. Who knew that day parties were so exciting and so
                                         
                                        salacious. So please come back and listen to Part 2.
                                         
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