The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Dirty Rush: Having High STANDARDS

Episode Date: September 20, 2025

Getting called in to “Standards”… What does that mean????  Sorority members immediately know what we’re talking about.   We’re exploring the committee within a... sorority that upholds the rules and values of the chapter.  Why would someone be called in to “Standards”?  The list is long and the reasons may not be what you think.   Plus, our own Gia Giudice reveals why she was called in to Standards and the Real Housewives reason! Call us at 844-278-RUSH (844-278-7874) or email us at DirtyRush@iHeartRadio.com. Follow Dirty Rush on Instagram and TikTok.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Elle Woods, Tracy Flick, herself. Reese Witherspoon. It must go in a girl's trip.
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Starting point is 00:02:25 America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season, ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life. With your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hey guys, and welcome to Dirty Rush, where we are giving you the inside scoop on sorority life. In this episode, we are talking about standards.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Standards is basically a group of people who run a committee and basically punish you on your behavior. There is proper etiquette and proper behavior that is necessary while being in a sorority. And we are going to dive deep, have some callers calling in, and telling us their standard story. And at the end, maybe you'll hear a story from me. I have a celebrity guest here with me today. Mercedes Northup, welcome to Dirty Rush. I'm excited to be here. So excited to have you here.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So a new announcement, you just... launched your podcast. Yes, famously available with Ben. It has been so much fun. I'm having fun. It's all about dating. So, you know. You're getting back into the dating world. Yes, girl. I'm back in there. It's so scary, but I'm ready. Honestly, this is so fun, though. Yes. The dating podcast. You're kind of just doing the intros right now. Yep. But then you're going to get into dating life. Going on dates. Via podcast. Yeah, which is so crazy. That's interesting. So I kind of took a break from dating. I haven't dated in like two years, which is a long time.
Starting point is 00:04:30 But I just needed like time just to like, I don't know. I went through. I had a really bad situation. I had a really bad situation. So I had two years off. And I was like, I was telling my mom, I'm like, I think the next time like I'm going to go on a date. Like they're setting me up on a date. I need to like get ready.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So I'm calling it my practice date on Saturday. Poor guy doesn't know it. But who knows? Maybe this practice date will like be your night and shining arm. Literally, no. Oh, my God, I love that. Yeah. Okay. So, wait, fingers crossed for this date on Saturday. Yeah, we'll see. I don't know. I'll keep you updated. All right. So, Dirty Rush, you know that it's all about sorority life.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And we kind of just talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and really get into the truths about sorority life. So where did you go? Were you in a sorority? Yes. What was your experience like? So I went to Iowa State. And go in state? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah. I went to Iowa State, study fashion. It was like, I loved that school. It was so much fun. But I honestly didn't know much about recruitment. But I, a few girls. Were you the oldest? Yeah. And my mom was like, had me 15. Like, she didn't go to college. So I was like the first one. My mom knew nothing. When I go, you have to pay dues. She goes, what is that? Literally. You're rushing a sorority. What's that? Literally. That was me. I had no idea what I was doing, what I was getting myself into. But my roommate, she was. was like, I'm doing it. Like, you should do it with me. And I'm like, okay. Like, sure, why not? Like, let's just see what it is. Went through recruitment. I had a really good recruitment process, honestly. In my top three were DZ, Kappa and Tridelt. Okay. And then Pref night, I went Kappa and DZ. And then I ended up going DZ, bitted them. They bidded me. So that's where I went. And I love DZ. It was so much fun. I met like all my best friends. But there was some issues, too.
Starting point is 00:06:26 They were very hard on us sometimes, like, just having, like, certain things that we could do and couldn't do. And I was, you know, a freshman. I'm like, I'm literally in college. I can, this is my time to, like, do what I want. Like, let me go to a party. Let me post a beer. And you couldn't.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And we would get fine. Yes. Oh, my God. I got set. I was stayed in standards. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Like, they love sending my ass to standards.
Starting point is 00:06:51 They really did. But it was until you were initiated. After initiation, then you were able to, right? No. Oh, no. No, they were very strict. Maybe they didn't want that image on their sorority. Which is so crazy because we really kind of known as the party house.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Okay. But they like were very, but like the, yeah, they were strict. And you were in your sorority all four years? No, I actually dropped my junior year. Did you just not think it was worth it anymore? I mean, I was tired of getting fined, like random things. Like, I don't even remember. what I got fined for, but I was like, I'm not paying that.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Like, I'm not doing this anymore. Like, and it was just so expensive. Oh, yeah, sometimes it's a money grab. Yeah, I think my dues were like $300 if you, a month. And then if you missed, which as a college student, like pretty expensive. Like, I was paying for it. So that was that. And then also, like, if you missed, what's it, why am I forgetting what it's called?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Like, chapter. Chapter, they find you like $100. And I'm like, I'm not doing that. And I loved going home and, like, be. being with my family. And it was always on Sundays. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:54 After was always on Sundays. Always on Sundays. I hated that when I would go home for Sunday dinner and I had to leave to go to chapter. That's what I'm saying. It's so annoying. Let me spend time with my family. And I would have to like request like, can I go on Zoom today for this chapter
Starting point is 00:08:07 meeting? Literally. And chapter was so low. They would always say no. Sometimes we were in chapter for five minutes. I know. And they needed to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It was so dumb. Then you need five minutes. Yeah. But yeah, I was just over the fighting and over again. over getting in trouble with them. So I was like, all right, I'm just going to drop. Sarah, welcome to Dirty Rush. Hi, thanks for having me. So excited to hear your story. Yeah, so I think I kind of have a unique experience because when I was in college, I went to a really big public
Starting point is 00:08:43 school in L.A. Some people might know it. It's UCLA. And I like definitely loved my experience, but I, so much so that I was president of my sorority. And so when I was president, I served on standards. A big reason why a lot of people got called into standards was because a lot of our events were off campus at different venues around the city in L.A. And so there would be these long bus rides where people would heavily pregame prior to these bus rides to these events. And every single event without fail, somebody would throw up all. the bus and we had members of our sorority called like sober sisters sober monitors whose role was to like of course make sure everyone was safe and okay but also to like give trash bags to anyone on the
Starting point is 00:09:33 bus that would look like they were about to throw up and then also like report them back to the sorority if they did throw up because like then the sorority would have to pay that huge fine or whatever yeah so that was a big standards call in and i yes was president was serving on the on Board of Standards, but prior to that, had been called into standards for throwing up on a bus. I was a freshman and I was actually supposed to be a sober monitor. Oh, no. Yeah. So it was really bad. It was like, not only did you throw up on the bus, but you also threw up. You were supposed to be watching everyone. Yeah, was not my proudest moment. But that, that's my standard story. that is so funny girls got brought to standards because they were encouraging me to drink on bid night
Starting point is 00:10:28 when you were just when you adjust big oh i like just went home like i just went to zeta i just got my bid like we ran home and it was bid day so we were all just like having a big party in the house and be honest though were you did you feel peer pressured or Were you take part? No, like 100% I felt peer pressured. Oh, you did? Did you not want to drink? Like, no, because I knew I wasn't supposed to.
Starting point is 00:11:01 But somehow standards got wind of it. And then my older sisters got in trouble because they were like, like, what are you doing? This is obviously unacceptable. And then that girl literally had to write an apology letter to me. I didn't think it was that big of a deal. Obviously, it was a big deal to the sorority because for liability purposes. Then it's like once standard catches you, then what do they do with you to punish you? This standard punishment was like you have to be a sober sister again.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I think that was the main punishment for Zeta too. It was either like they would take away some mixers, some mixers you weren't able to go out or like they made you a sober monitor for the next date part. And obviously, if you got that, you were pissed because your night was ruined. I think standards definitely has their normal protocol and what they follow. I think the end goal is just to make you a more like a better and more responsible person in the long run. Thank you, Sarah. This was awesome. But I'm glad you made a step up.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You went from throwing up on the bus on the way to a day party. to then becoming the president of your sorority. So that shows growth. This is exactly what the sororities wanted. Miranda, welcome to Dirty Rush. Thank you so much. When you say the word standards, I get chills in my body. It literally breaks back trauma feelings.
Starting point is 00:12:36 No, I hate that. Yeah, in a funny way. But I feel like everyone felt like that when they got called to standards. It's so true because no one gets called in for a great reason. and our standards was made up of our friends, sorority sisters, and then an advisor or two. So it was pretty intense. And funny enough, when I was in my sorority, my sister was also in the same sorority and she was on standards.
Starting point is 00:13:03 She probably like internally wanted to kill you. Like, oh my God, my sister just getting called in. The honest truth is, I wish it was for an exciting, fun reason, like a behavioral one, but I was called in with my sister, two standards. And again, she was on standards because our bills were never paid because my dad is just a very fun kind of traveling guy who just would completely forget or not send in the paycheck or the bill. So we would get called in together. And again, she was on standards because our bills were not being paid. And I remember sitting there thinking, I'm 19. I have, you know, $20 at best in my pocket. Like I don't know what to do about this. And it was just
Starting point is 00:13:46 very awkward, hilarious experience because it was my friends saying, pay your bill, and we saying, okay, call my parents because I barely have money for dinner this week. When I hear standards now, it just brings up a little PTSD because it was not fun. Looking back at standards, I feel like they were just trying to constantly teach you a lesson. I so agree. I think there were so many lessons being in a sorority and learning to live with all the girls and absolutely standards is reality. Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Los Culturistas.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 Hi, guys. It's Jen Thessler here with another standard story here on Dirty Rush. We have Elizabeth today who's going to talk to us about her experience that she had in terms of standards and what happened and how it all went. down. So hi, Elizabeth. Hi. Okay, yes. So my standard story was kind of the typical of posting with alcohol, not being able to post with alcohol, and I knew that. But basically, in my sorority, we have an Instagram account, and it's a normal girl's name, but if they comment a heart on your post, it means delete that post immediately, and we won't say anything to you, and it's all good. But my ambitious self was like, oh, they're going to forget about that. They're not going to remember.
Starting point is 00:21:13 They commented a heart. So I did not delete that post. And then I posted again with what looked like a lemonade cup. It could have been a lemonade cup, but it was alcohol. And they commented another heart on my post. And so I was like, oh no, like two hearts now. I should probably delete it, but I didn't. Why didn't you? I don't know. I think I was just kind of like, it looks like lemonade, like, and I was, like, this is such a double standard. So many of them posts with Apple, like, and they, it's just a favoriting thing. They pick the people they want to call the part, and then they pick people that they're like, oh, they can get away with it. So it was almost like, you're almost not giving them a F you, but kind of like,
Starting point is 00:21:56 you were sort of standing up for yourself in this way. So it wasn't as if you were just, yeah, they won't notice. It was more like, no, this is not fair. I think it was a little bit of both. Like the first time it was like, oh, they won't notice. And then the second time, it was like, this is so annoying. I keep seeing all these people in my sorority posting with alcohol as well. And all these posts are not getting hearts on it. Like, why am I getting a heart call and so on my? Right.
Starting point is 00:22:18 And of course, I'm like thinking my private story on Snapchat is like a safe place to go. So I'm like, they're trying to take my like rights away. I can post whatever I want, whatever. Listen, I mean, I'm not, I don't even, I don't think that's so out of the realm of yeah right and true i you should be able to push what you want although i get that i guess you know what you guys post is in some way a reflection yes problems when i was um when i was in a sorority a million and 10 years ago we didn't have social media but was it also was it a particularly fun post were you like i love this post i don't want to take it down um i it was a semester recap so i was
Starting point is 00:22:59 like okay i have to take the whole time on it yeah yeah right and it was like Yeah, and I think this was before the Instagram update of, like, you can delete one, like, slide out of your post. So this was before. You can. That's good for me to know. Now you can do that, yeah. But before you couldn't do that. So I was like, oh, this is my semester post.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Like, I'm in college, whatever. Right, right, right. Yeah. But then they DM'd me and I'm, like, still in this stubborn state of mind of, like, I just won't open it. It doesn't say seen if I don't open it. So, like, so this Instagram account DMs me. You're a badass. Lizzie.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I want to meet your mom. I want my daughter to be just like this. She is actually like this. I think my mom would be so upset with me. Really? She would just delete it. It's Instagram and I'd be like, well. Maybe she's right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I don't even know. But I'm kind of like, I'm just happy to hear about you not letting yourself get pushed around. Although, yeah, if you did. Okay, I'll let you finish your story. So then anyways, I'm like, oh, I got away with it. But little did I know. I get a standards email. So I think every school does a different, but for mine, we get an email, and it's like come an hour before chapter on Sundays, and you just go into this room and they basically tell you what you did. Some people go in there, like, completely blind. Like, I don't even know what I did. I obviously had all of this. And I knew what I did. So I go into this meeting. It's the president, risk chair, the standards committee. She's like all of them. And I'm like, in a circle or do they, like, you have to face them all? It's just like around a table.
Starting point is 00:24:33 and you just sit down on one of the chairs. It's actually like pretty chill at my school. They don't make it very crazy, but it is a little bit intimidating, sitting down with like the president of your sorority and you know exactly what you did. Right. And so, yeah, so they just sat me down
Starting point is 00:24:48 and they were like, listen, like we commented the hearts, you know the drill, we DM'd you. I know you didn't open it. Like they knew exactly what I was doing. Right, right. And I was just like, I'm sorry. Yeah, I won't happen again. I'm just explaining that.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And then there has to be a repercussion for everything, basically, with standards. And so they had me write a handwritten paper, like a letter to them, basically saying how exactly what you said before. Like, this is a reflection of us as a chapter. This isn't just because we want you to take down your Instagram post. And I was like, okay, that's okay. I'll do that. So it had to be a handwritten letter and I had to bring it into chapter the week after on Sunday. And so in this letter, I'm just like, this won't happen again.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I understand this is a reflection of my sorority. I committed to something, like, just kind of writing what they want to hear. I'm like, it's an Instagram post. I don't really care. And then, yeah, so then you have to bring it in the next week into chapter and hand it to them. But, of course, you're walking into chapter with a piece of paper and everyone knows what this means. Like, it's a hammer. Does anyone really care?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Isn't everyone, like, kind of laughing about it? Yeah, it's a laughing matter. It's not like, oh my gosh, you blah, blah, blah. I mean, so many people have to do this. Half my friends had to do stuff because they didn't show up to events that were mandatory and they had to write a letter saying that it's really rude to commit to something and then whatever. So it's all handwritten letters. But when you're showing up to chapter with a handwritten letter, like everyone knows that you went to standard.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Right, right. I'm like slyly handing my piece of paper to the person. Were you embarrassed? Did you feel? I mean, I just think, I'm thinking about why. they make you do it that way like why they make you walk into chapter with it yeah written in front of everyone and hand it over i mean it's so obviously to i'm sorry to say but you may not agree but to kind of shame you a little bit oh yeah i think half of it is but i also think um my sorority is
Starting point is 00:26:52 like traditional with a lot of things we don't like to do a lot of stuff on technology so i think maybe the traditional part of it is like oh handwritten letter it's a little bit more like authentic and, like, you mean it rather than, like, chat GBTing something or whatever. I get that. Yeah, but I think that actually, like, physically handing it to them during chapter is definitely, like, oh, we're going to. Shame, shame, shame. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, were you upset?
Starting point is 00:27:19 Were you, did it take any, did it take a toll on you? I think I'm just, like, my stubborn self was like, they got me. Like, it didn't upset me, but I was just like, of course, I couldn't get it. That's so funny. yeah like so many people get away with stuff like that though i mean like i was a sophomore when that happened so a little bit of me was like okay just whatever you're still an underclassman like this happens maybe you can get away with it junior and senior year if you really want to again but i just think some of it's kind of like i didn't know anyone in the standards committee
Starting point is 00:27:53 or like the risk chair or anything like i wasn't friends with them so they weren't going to like favor me like they favorite their friends like can you say that to them like can you say i another really well i wouldn't personally yeah but i i'm sure people would like balzy people would but i personally was just like okay i'll write this letter like right worries yeah no i get that i get that just wasn't worth it yeah it wasn't worth it to me yeah you know it's funny i want to have um my daughter come on she has a story about standards well i should say we do because she got called in to standards her senior year for something that happened to her but instead of like there being any kind of real talk with her or like what happened she just got an email she had to go in front of
Starting point is 00:28:45 standards and really inappropriate because at some point you all are grown women and your mommies should probably stay out of it but i completely lost my shit and i knew it was just like there's know they haven't even heard what you had to say and standards i guess she could have told them what she had to say but standards is almost like you've done something wrong yes and anyway so i called i guess i called the house mother what are they called yeah the house mother house mother and this is completely unacceptable you know she was so upset because and i'm hoping that she will come on and tell her story i don't want to tell it for her but it was really something that happened to her and really an awful thing.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Anyway, so I said, I don't really get this. The whole point of this is that you meet these girls and they become your sisters. First, like, want to get behind you. Talk to you, what happened before bringing you in front of a disciplinary committee. It just seemed egregious to me. And I was just pissed.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I was like, what is this for? If it's not to find people that are going to be on your side, not for everything. When you do something wrong, you do something wrong. But in this case, she hadn't. And so it just made it worse that she was getting called into Sanders. Needless to say, they said, you're absolutely right. She doesn't have to come in. Good.
Starting point is 00:30:11 But which is good for them because I was ready to go down there. Right. They didn't want to do with you. Exactly. Good for Rachel, too, because I've mortified her. But I, you know, I think that probably for a lot of young women, girls that it is really scary and it's intimidating and I'm glad to hear you guys just kind of sat or sit around a round table. I think that sometimes it's even more it's like meant to be
Starting point is 00:30:36 intimidating a little bit. Yeah, I think so. You know? Yeah, I think especially like just seeing your president and like people who are supposed to be like risk chair and all that in front of your face. So I mean, I think that you know, you join a sorority to be part of, of this sisterhood and to know that all of these girls have your back, right? And I'm again, I'm not taking away from the fact that if you screw up and you are doing something that is reflecting badly on your sorority,
Starting point is 00:31:09 that there shouldn't be consequences for that. I absolutely know that that's true. And even back in my day, even though there wasn't social media, you know, there was like a level, you could get in trouble, you can get thrown out, whatever it was. But I don't know, I feel like maybe I'm a little biased, bias because of what happened to my daughter.
Starting point is 00:31:26 But let's first like talk about it without going to standards. You know, before we go to a disciplinary committee, like what happened? Maybe not in your case because if there was hard, you were ignoring them. You're kind of giving them the little fingers, the middle fingers, so maybe not. Yeah, no, they definitely gave me warnings, but I will say that is true because people who go in there blind and like have no clue what they did, like that's got to be intimidating And that's got to be like, who knows what they're about to say to me. Like, could be the worst day of my life could be okay.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And you just don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, the worst thing that could happen is that they can kick you out. Right. Yeah. I mean, I guess we're also, well, I'm sure, G, you probably already talked about it, but there's things that they can do. I mean, whatever. I don't know what in your sorority, what are your, what are the consequences?
Starting point is 00:32:18 They're probably different levels, I would think. Yeah, you could be on probation. which I don't really know what those all entail with details, but yeah, you could be on probation for a little bit or you could not be able to go to a formal, which is the fun part, obviously.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Right, right, right. They definitely have different consequences. I think mine was like one of the lesser versions of what they do. I know a lot of my friends who have had to go also have to write handwritten letters, so I didn't think that was crazy that I had to do that.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Right, right. But yeah, they could have told me like, you're not going to this next form, normal like whatever but yeah they didn't do that thank god thank god i'm so glad yeah that is the fun part well anything else any other ideas or thoughts about standards your experience i mean with me that was the only time i've gone i will say that like you're girl i know we've talked about like shame and everything and i don't think that's their intention with everything that they do so i want to like take it with a grain of salt type of thing. Like I know a lot of my friends who have gone through like emotional
Starting point is 00:33:25 stress and all of that get called into standards, which like you were saying with your daughter, that's not a great thing that they're getting called into standards because it makes it seem like they did something wrong. But when they actually are in the meeting, standards will be like, hey, we're here for you and we want to provide resources to kind of get you in like an area where we could all be with you. And this is just like the protocol. So I know that they do definitely help with that, they probably should go about it in a different way and not call it a standards meeting, but listen, I'm glad to hear that. I really am for clarifying that. Because again, like when I, when my daughter went through it, I was like, you're getting called into what? Yeah. And in front of who?
Starting point is 00:34:10 I don't think so. So yeah, no, I hear you. If it's, if that is, I mean, I think girls probably do still get scared, you know? Oh, yeah, for sure. Which I don't, I don't love. I mean, you should feel like you're talking to your sisters. Yes. You know, per se. Yeah. You're also talking to girls your own age. Like, I mean, a couple of them were older than me, like the president and stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:31 But I was like, why am I next to someone who I literally just rushed with? And she's telling me what my consequences. That's so awkward. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you ever be on a committee on standards committee? No, because I don't think I could do that to people that I'm. like really good friends with. I don't know. It's so awkward. And I've heard the stories of like
Starting point is 00:34:52 it gets complicated with friends and like if you're roommates with them and it kind of gets weird. Like are you going to do the same things that you would do before they were on this committee? Like I don't want my friends to have to like hold back from their like lives just because I'm on this like committee. You know what I mean? I don't think people would do it because it looks good on your resume maybe. Right. Yeah. It is great. It's a leadership position. probably does look really good on a resume. And I'm not wanting to do it otherwise. Yeah, I just wouldn't want, like, my friends or people to not do or act as they normally would around me, just because I'm on.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I wouldn't want that either. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. Okay. Well, Elizabeth, thank you, sweet girl. Thank you for coming on. Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And I'm glad that you escaped a bigger punishment and, right? And that you're doing your thing and that you still go into the formals. Yes, I am. saying on trouble good for you all right well thank you so much and we love talking to you thanks everybody that's listening and girls don't post things that you don't want to get in trouble for that's the moral of this story okay so now we have rowan rowan hi there how are you doing hi i'm good how are you i'm good i appreciate you calling in from abroad where are you i'm in portugal right now but i said brought in Florence.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Wow. How great is that? Yes, it's amazing. I love it. I'll bet. Do they have standards in Florence? No, they don't. Good thing.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's nice. That's a good thing. So, Roman, do you want to share where you go to school? Yes, I go to UCLA. Oh, you're a brainiac. Mm-hmm. Just a little bit. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Okay, so, yeah, we've been doing a lot of talking about standards and different young women's experiences. So I'd love for you to share yours. Yes, of course. I would love to share mine. Basically, I, this is my first time ever getting called into standards for my sorority. I had been at a frat event and I had just seen some stuff on the internet that was funny about people stealing composites and people, I don't know, doing silly things when they were out. I thought it would be funny to steal a composite off of the wall because they were in the middle of the hallway and no one was inside. Everyone was outdoors. So I thought it would be funny and I was talking to one of my friends about it and she told me that I should do it and I was
Starting point is 00:37:30 like, okay, but I don't want to do it by myself. And she didn't want to do it with me. And so then I was like, I mentioned it to someone, one of my other friends and she said that she was, she wanted to do it with me. So we both just decided to pick one, a random one, close to the door to escape. And we ripped it off of the wall and ran out of the house. And then I was worried about getting, I was worried about stealing it and not returning it. Like I wanted them to have it back. I just thought it was funny in the moment. So I left on the side of the road next to their house because we were worried about I mean they're pretty expensive and I was just I felt bad there's people on it and people that their pictures are taken and stuff like that year from my year do
Starting point is 00:38:20 remember was it from a long ago I think the picture was 2011 so it wasn't too recent but it wasn't too old okay so it was like a little in between but we left it on the side of the road and then I think it got circulate someone found it on the side of the road and it got I think it got it got maybe returned to them, but anyway, I, it had been a while and then I had received an email from my sorority that had basically said, it said, dear Rowan, you are called into a meeting with standards for your actions at said Frat. Please meet with us at this time. And that's when I started to freak out a little bit because I'd never been called into standards before. Right. And I did not know what to expect because I was a freshman in college.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And it was something that I was so new to that I was like, I don't know how they're going to punish me. Like, I don't know if I'm going to get a bind. I don't know what's going to happen. And so my friend had gotten the same email. And so after chapter, we get called into this room. But when she got the same email, did you guys then think, okay, so this is probably about the composite? Yes. I think I assume, because it had said the fraternity's name, I knew that it was probably in regards to this.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And since we both got the same email, we kind of connected the dots and were like, this is probably what it's for. Okay. They didn't stay specifically in the email. I think what I was being called in for, just I was being called in for something. And then I think they mentioned it in the meeting. Once I got there, they were like, this is why you've been called in. But in the email, they didn't say that. Got it.
Starting point is 00:40:08 But I kind of figure that it was. Right. Yeah. And then I went into the meeting and they had basically asked me why I did it. And I had explained that it was really sorry and I regret doing it and that it was, I thought it was funny. But it was kind of a stressful meeting. I don't know. And then I thought, and then they told me that I had to write a letter to the fraternity
Starting point is 00:40:34 president um to apologize so by the way you have to forgive me because at the beginning of this i thought you had stolen a composite off of the sorority house i didn't realize you stole it off of no now it is funny now i think it's hilarious yes because if i had taken one out of the sorority it would have been i think a little bit less problematic because it would be my own house right this was not my own house so it was a little bit problematic okay all right i get why you'd have to go to standards for that between you and me nice move I think it's hilarious thank you thank you
Starting point is 00:41:07 it was fun it was I thought it was funny and I still think it's funny but the whole reason so when I got into standards I at first was kind of like how did they know I I personally did this like because I was seen
Starting point is 00:41:21 by nobody like no one had watched me do it and it was just me and my friend no I got caught on the security cameras outside of their front door and they had a full video of it of us running out the door with the it was a huge composite like it had to take two of us to carry it and it was a it was a video of us like running out the door sprinting down the steps and that's how
Starting point is 00:41:46 I got caught and they like pulled it up and we're like is this you and it was me um but that's basically how I got caught and got sent to standards because the frat I guess sent it and we're like do you know who this is and it was me and my friend which is crazy so what were the consequences um i had been told i was going to get fined and that i had to write a letter to the fraternity president stating my apology and it was two pages long and i had to sign it and address him and then i was told i was going to get fined and billed by the frat but i'd never received that um fine like the billing from fraternity because i found out that it was because they were too lazy to actually send me the bill like they just didn't want to go through the process of
Starting point is 00:42:39 I guess billing us yeah it was going to be a crazy amount like 500 plus dollars because I think composites cost like $2,000 so we were going to have to split the fine and then it getting billed to us but I guess they never even they didn't I guess didn't care enough we're too lazy didn't want to send us the bill so I never got bill but I still had to write a letter right I still got sent to Stanford. The boys never even sent you the bill. No. Crap boys are the best.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yes. And I didn't have to pay $500, which was amazing for my bank account. Yeah, from your bank account. You wouldn't have gone to your parents? No. No, I have not told my parents they still do not know to this day. That would have been, I don't know. I think my kids would have told me and I would have said, well, that sucks for you that you have to pay it.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I still think it's funny. Wait, yeah, I think my mom would have. had the same reaction of that sucks for you and you have to pay that but yeah yeah you know it's kind of funny there are a lot of really kind of scary stories scary standards so i actually appreciate hearing this one because it makes me giggle it doesn't feel really that serious and it's something you would have absolutely done at your age and i would probably do it today yeah and now you have a story yes exactly a story that i'll have for the rest of my life Yeah. Thank you for coming on.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Of course. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. The Q rating. When they run diagnostic on you guys. I'd be scared. Run the Q rating. No on the Q rating on us. My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye.
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Starting point is 00:45:25 What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was... my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:46:00 A new podcast called, Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on Eve and I hit her.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart podcast. present, IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade. The murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Starting point is 00:49:16 or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County. a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. all right guys now let's get into my standard story so my standard story is a little different than the norm it happened season 11 of real housewives of new jersey which aired in 2021 So, in that episode of Real Housewives in New Jersey, my mom and Jackie were arguing. My mom heard a cheating rumor and Jackie goes, that's like me hearing that Gia snorts Coke in the bathroom at parties. My mother flipped out. It was obviously like a very insane statement to make, regardless if it was an analogy or not,
Starting point is 00:50:59 like you're talking about somebody's child and drugs like there were there was just a lot wrong with that statement and it blew up so 2021 it was my junior year of college and my friend was on standards and zeta got wind of it that this was out there and they said to my friend do you think we should call Gia in to standards to ask her, one, if I do coke in the bathroom? And two, if she's okay. If she's okay, was just kind of their, oh, let's be nice, make sure that her mental help is in check. They really wanted to know if I did coke in the bathroom. And my friend on standards looked at them and just basically said, this is a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Gia is going to be so mad that you are bringing her mom's show and something that didn't involve her, but a comment was made about her. And now you're bringing that into her college sorority life. My friend knew that I was going to be so pissed. So she warned me, I was going to be pulled into standards. I was pissed. And I'm sitting on this zoo. call with like a straight face and they go gee yeah like we saw what was what has been on the tabloids and what had what just aired on bravo do you participate in doing the drug cocaine and i was like no i do not i do not do coke and they saw just how like unfazed i was and how pissed I was. And it kind of ended there. It was a very quick phone call, but it just annoyed me that something so avoidable and a very stupid comment that was obviously made on the
Starting point is 00:53:09 Real Housewives of New Jersey affected me in my college life. And just that people were talking about it. And also, the girls in my sorority knew that I didn't engage in cocaine. They knew that I didn't do the drug. So it was just such a crazy statement and such a crazy question to ask me. You didn't have to bring me to standards for that. It would, and they blamed it on nationals. They said that nationals got involved and wanted them to clarify and just ask me about the topic. And I was like also, you know, if you.
Starting point is 00:53:51 You guys really knew me and they all were out with me all the time at Mixers Day parties. Like, you knew the girls that did drugs or you, like, you just, you knew. They knew that I never participated in any of that. So that's what got me even more mad because I'm like, oh, what did you guys just get off on asking me something that had something to do with the Real Housewives of New Jersey? I just thought it was a very immature move, very immature thing. And they probably just were on their high horse for a minute and got off on it. But definitely annoyed me.
Starting point is 00:54:36 But yeah, that was the only time I got called to standards. And I was so upset that I texted Jackie Goldstner about it afterwards. And I was like, I just got. called to standards because of the comment that you made and I understand like this is a reality TV show and my mom did something that hurt you but I had nothing to do with what my mom did to you on the show so I just didn't appreciate that you had to bring me into your argument and now it costed me it was humiliating you know to be called to standards for something that I didn't do in that I would never entertain or engage in. And I was like, this is,
Starting point is 00:55:26 this is just unacceptable. And she obviously apologized and she never wished for that to happen to me. And yeah, now me and Jackie are fine and all is, all is good. So this was our inside look into what the life of standards is. I would say, It's kind of a little government that runs sorority life and keeps everything in check. And that was it for this week's episode of Dirty Rush. Hey, everybody. This is Matt Rogers. And Bowen-Yang.
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Starting point is 00:56:33 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story.
Starting point is 00:56:55 It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row.
Starting point is 00:57:20 How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story. a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:11 The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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