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Episode Date: February 8, 2026

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That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today. This Black History Month, the podcast, I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. Digs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan.

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I'm Hans Charles. I'm Manilic Lamouba. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on-purpose podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor, and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover. And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity.

I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life. With your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hey, guys, and welcome back to Part 2 of Dirty Rush. I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area for the big game. And I'm sitting here with some sorority girls asking them some burning questions.

Do you guys know this? I don't even know what these are. But what are house boys? I think it's like a hasher in the sorority house. What's a hosher? So my sorority house had open positions for fraternity boys to work in our kitchen. And so they would do the dishes. They would serve us food.

They wore uniforms. And they loved it because then they would come and sit. with us and chit-chat. Like, really? But we didn't have them. That's kind of funny. Yeah, we didn't have them my ear because of COVID.

But they were all cute. I mean, that is kind of fun. They would walk around, clean their dishes. I mean, that would give, you know, some brownie points, I guess. Yeah. Were any romances sparked from it? No, not that I know.

Really? Yeah. Oh, gosh, I think girls would be like, man in the house. Oh, my God. Did they have to shout that when they were on the floor? We had one handy man. And he would always have to shout that.

We're boys. A lot to sleep over your guys's houses. Well, see, that was my next question. Do girls sneak boys into the house a lot? I think, all the time. Yeah. Am I sorority? Because it wasn't allowed?

Wasn't allowed. Oh. Ours is that you just need to tell everyone if your boyfriend's sleeping over. Everyone? Like texting. Oh. Yeah. Wait, you were allowed to have your boyfriend sleep over?

I mean, I think maybe my sorority is extremely chill. Wait, we were. Yeah. It was like we take a vote at the beginning of the year and like the group votes on guys are going to be allowed. But also, like, no one would ever do that if they weren't in a single. Like, I've never heard of anyone having their boyfriend sleepover if they're in, like, a double or a quad or a 10-person room. Like, that would never happen. Oh, my gosh. I do know that... I mean, even a double? I mean, that's like you're in a dorm room. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think most people just did it. Like, I know for certain,

there's been times when girls have boyfriends visiting, and they literally... I know one guy stayed in our house for, like, a full week. Like, he literally just brought his bags and moved in for a week. And I swear that. the roommate was just kicked out. Like for the week, she just had to sleep elsewhere. But I did hear a story in my house that a girl was leaving. And we have a, like, a fire escape. And you're not technically supposed to use it because obviously it's for emergencies, but she was running late for class and it was closer to her room.

She goes down the fire escape and there's a guy sleeping on a mattress in the fire escape. I guess he had blacked out. And that was where he had found a place to crash for the night. Oh, my God. Because they kept, like, the extra, in the beginning of the semester, they kept the extra like mattress toppers in the fire escape before they got thrown out. And so he literally like used a mattress topper as a bed

and then used another one on top of him as a blanket and was passed out in the in the fire escape. I would have shot myself. Yeah. I was like, hey, anyone know who this is? He sent it to the group chat. That's crazy. In the group, me.

How is this? Oh my God. Oh my gosh. That's wild. Oh my gosh. One word to describe initiations. ceremony. Fulty.

Weird. Kind of boring. Stupid. I hate to say it. Yeah. I mean, I just think hangover. Yeah. Every time I've had to do one of those, I'm completely hungover too.

I think it was more of a thing back then. I think it was more special. Yes. People enjoyed it. Like the all white outfits. Oh my gosh. The alumni and the founders, it's so mad if you don't. And the advisors, if you're not on it and you're not like super.

Yeah. Like doing all the code and doing all the things. Londress. Long sleeves. You can't take any pictures. You can't explain anything to anyone else. You can't even do, can't share any of the ceremony with anyone.

Yeah. Yeah, but like, come to find out everyone goes to the same initiation. Yeah, then you'd talk about it. And it's, yeah,

I didn't think it was anything special. Hungover on a Sunday. Always Sunday. If they did it, like a better day, people would be more into it probably. If they did it on a Thursday. Because then it would set it up for like,

we're initiated. Friday, Friday. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. But they probably wanted to prevent partying. Some of like my sororities, like their moms would be like had been in that sorority and would come initiate them.

Like that's cute. We didn't really have a lot of that. But honestly, I just like when you're hungover and you're kind of like without the information of what's going on, it's, I feel like it's not as like special. It's like, oh, wait, what are you doing here? I'd love that you're here, but like, wish it wasn't in a dark room in a one. in a white robe. Well, we're like saying something off a script. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't think it was weird. It's just nice to be in the sorority. Go listen to the other episode. Yeah. To hear more about it. We already talked about it. What's the biggest reason girls actually drop?

I think they just realized they don't need a sorority anymore and they're tired of paying the dues. Yeah. I was going to say dues, dues, dues, 100%. So expensive. So expensive. And people are just like. Like a lot of schools, you just don't even need to be in a sorority. Like, I know some schools, it's like you have to be and want to go to the parties.

But like a lot of them, it's not like that. And it's like, why am I paying all these dues? Yeah. Especially once you're like a senior, like not going to chapter anyway. Yeah. It was definitely senior. But I feel like people junior year were like, all right, we're not living in the house. We don't really need to be going to the mixers anymore.

Yeah. So then why are we paying the dues? Don't want to go to chapter. It was mainly for like formal. Yeah. Did you guys go to the mixers like until you graduated or did the seniors kind of not? We'd stopped going senior year. We'd go.

I would say it was very odd to go to a mixer. Like if anything, as a senior, as a senior, like we were mostly at the bars. Yeah. Yeah. Junior year, you live out of the sorority house and so everyone's really excited to throw parties. And throw themed parties because you're in control as opposed to having to party at the fraternity houses. Is that a similar timeline? Nah, we like always partied at the fraternity houses.

Oh, really? As a joke, we wouldn't have our own parties. Really? No. Did you live in apartments or houses? Both. Oh, we always, like, sophomore year we stopped. It was a systematic.

Junior year was, like, fun because it was like, everyone's turning 21. Did you still live in the house junior year? No, I never lived during the house because it was COVID. Right. And so we got sent home. And that was when I was supposed to live in the house. but then I ended up getting an apartment and then it was COVID. So then I just was home and I never ended up living crazy.

It also wasn't obligated for me to live in the house. But then the year after that, they made it an obligation because they had to start like forcing girls to live in the house. Oh my God. Because something with the dues or, you know, fulfilling the house. You think you have to fill it like nationals like makes you feel it. Yeah, because ours is different every year. Like some years, like all the girls are like fighting.

But then junior year, I feel like you are turning 21. So everyone's super excited to like host like pregames. Like we honestly just hosted a lot of pregame. Yeah. Oh my gosh. So year of 21 is the best. Yeah. Like it just was never anything crazy.

Yeah. Free games and bars. Yeah. No more frats and mixers at that point. And then it was like randomly like, oh, let's go to the frat. Just like have some fun. Yeah. I think senior year we all still went.

but busing was always annoying. Like no one wanted to bus. So we'd like try to just Uber from the part, the pre-party and we'd get in trouble. And we'd leave early and not go on the bus either. We had to like bus and it was like a whole thing. Like to the formals. Like you would get on these buses.

Oh, like a party bus. Yeah. Yeah. But they were like huge buses. Like the coach buses. Yes. And like that was like a whole part of it is like if you didn't get on the bus. Yeah.

I think that's kind of like a safety thing. Completely. Senior year. For sure. We still went to the formals and stuff for the sorority. But I'm saying, did you still go to frat parties? Oh, yeah. Your senior year.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fun. That's like not a thing. Yeah, we did not. That was only for sophomores. There's one party that. Because then it's like girls in like little shorts.

Yeah. And you're just like, why are you grinding on a boy in front of me? We would do like. No, yeah. Like you get over it. Yeah. That's why it was like junior and senior year mainly the bars. But then it was fun to always like pop over to like be like, oh.

were actually the cool kids. Yeah. And you're like hanging with the guys that are like seniors that you're friends with. Yes. And sometimes we would have like guys off campus who would like throw like junior senior senior parties. So like freshman and sophomores weren't invited. So those were like fine.

Got it. Yeah, we're the cool kids. Welcome to the A building. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Mena Lake Lamoma. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. Have both been assassinated.

And Black America. was out of breaking point. Writing and protests broke out on an unprecedented scale. In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's Almermata, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr., and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. To be in what we really thought was a revolution.

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What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. So keep this secret for so many years. He's like a seasoned pro.

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I don't know what that's about. Listen to Boy Sober on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's the worst date you've had from Greek life? I actually didn't go on any dates when I was in college. What? Me neither. No guys would, like, ask girls on. Yeah.

That was, like, not a thing. I didn't, yeah. My first date was post-graduation. I mean, I had a boyfriend. So you would go on dates, like, during the week? Like, me and Christian would go on a date? Yeah. Yeah.

Like, to drinks and dinner. Interesting. I mean, I feel like people who were dating would go on dates. People use hinge a lot. Like, in college? In college? Wait, like, what do you mean? You didn't like, if a guy wanted to hang out with you, like, he didn't take a guy's done?

No. You just come over to the back? Yeah, come over at 1 a.m. Yeah, we would make sure to meet up at the middle. Yeah, sneaky link. Yeah. I loved sneaky links. I think it's just not a thing.

It's just not a thing. The guys just don't have to. Like, I was just prude, I guess. Well, I had a boyfriend. Yeah. I mean, the people would be the standard. This is the behavior that just not accept to. That should be the normal thing.

That's so funny. What if someone snores or is stinky? I think this applies to the sleeping porch. Yeah. Which none of us experienced. But I think that would be awful. The snoring is awful. You need to get like earplugs.

Really bad. And then also like stinky. That's just gross. Like shower. I hate people with that with bad hygiene. How do you approach someone that doesn't smell good? Like, and maybe they're a friend. I think it's, like, so rude to tell somebody you smell.

But I'm not kidding. Like, if I'm around someone that smells, I get so, so, so, so, so good. Oh, my gosh, yeah. I've done it. And it didn't end well. Like people's breath. Yeah. That's easy.

Oh, you want to piece of that? Oh, I don't need one. I don't need one. I did tell this one girl because she borrowed my jacket and she was wearing a tank top. under my jacket. And I was so frustrated because her B.O. leaked on my jacket. And I didn't know how to wash the jacket. And I was so mad at her one night.

I just used it against her, which was so awful of me. Which was me. What did you do? I was like, you have B.O. And it's all over my jacket. And it's not me. It's you. I thought it was so mean.

And I kind of looked around. I was like, right guys? Oh, I bet you did it in front of people. My close friends. It was really mean. Obviously, it still haunts me. Yeah. I apologize.

Did you take the jacket to the dry cleaners? Mm-hmm. Okay. I did. But did she ever fix the V-O? But maybe you said that. She needed to pay for it. Because I told her prior.

This was when I was like also very drunk. But I told her prior that you have to get deodorant with, that's not just deodorant. Old Spice deodorant, it has to be oldspice deodorant and antiperspirant. That's what fights the bacteria. Think dead ass if you don't have that. That's gross. What do you mean?

Are you salt and stone? Do they have antiperspirants in it? Yes, it's good. But it's Old Spice. I don't think Old Spice smells good on women. Well, I mean, also, she's using Old Spice, which is kind of technically like a man's deodorant. So she was trying to get the strong stuff, clearly.

Clearly. Clearly, she writes. Oh, God. I hate that. Like, just shower. So last question. Do you guys, has anyone ever gotten kicked out of your sorority? Not of mine, but I think I've heard of it before. I think somebody got kicked out of mine. Really? I don't remember why. I think she was, like, scandalous.

We've had a girl lose a position. Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe she just dropped and didn't get kicked. out. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you have to do something really crazy, like steal something. Yeah. Or like vandalize something. Yeah. Oh, I know of this poor girl in another sorority. She was in our, like, local bar, and she was very wasted. She peed on the ground. It was on video. Then it was shown to her standards, and then they kicked her out, which was sad. I didn't know her. That's sad, though. That's not like, her fault. I mean, it is, but like she didn't mean to. Embarrassing and then felt all the consequences. Literally. So much of that decision, I think, coming from a sorority is like a character. Like, is this a defamation of the sorority's character and of their image. Yeah. And then unfortunately, I think girls also get kicked out if they don't pay their dues. Right.

Definitely. Yeah. If they literally just can't afford it anymore. Yeah, which is sad. But it happens. But on a happier note, sorority life. is fun. Yeah. I thought I went through it. Miss it. Yeah. Love it. Talking about it's fun. I know. It is fun to dive back. Well, thanks guys for being here and answering all of the burning questions I had for you. And that is it for this week's episode of Dirty Rush. Love you guys. Bye. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze.

Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life for I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband. Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Black history lives in our stories, our culture, and the conversations we still having today.

This Black History Month, the podcast I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either? Diggs into the moments, perspectives, and experiences that don't always make the textbook. Let me tell you about Garrett Morgan. Brough had to pretend he didn't even exist just to sell his own invention. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. From the Black Effect Podcast Network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast,

or simply wherever you get your podcast. 1969, Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis. And at Morehouse College, the students make their move. These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the Board of Trustees, including Martin Luther King's senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion

in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles. I'm Minnick Lamouber. Listen to the A building on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the unpurposed podcast. On a recent episode, I sat down with Nick Jonas, singer, songwriter, actor and global superstar. I went blank. I hit a bad note, and then I couldn't kind of recover.

And I had built up this idea that music and being musician was my whole identity. I had to sort of relearn who I was if you took this thing away. Who am I? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human