The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Dirty Rush: Since when should a dorm room look like the Four Seasons?

Episode Date: August 22, 2026

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Hi, this is Joan Bassos and I am joined by Jen Fessler and Daisy Kent. Today we're here to talk all things dorm rooms. We are bringing in a very talented designer, very beautiful style. We are looking right now at this extraordinary dorm room. Let's talk to interior designer Lisa Dias. Hi. Hi. Hi, Lisa.

How are you all? Good. Thank you for joining you. Yes. Thank you for having me. Where are you from? We hear the accent. Yeah. Okay. So I was afraid of that. I am Jackson, Mississippi. Nice. I love it. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think I have an accent, but everybody else does. So you know how that is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you have an accent here on this podcast and it's adorable.

Yeah. I'm jealous. I want one. Oh, thank you. I don't get that often. Well, tell us, Lisa, about first, like yourself, where did you go to school? why did you want to design dorm rooms? I actually went to school at Delfts State University, which was a small college here in town, but ended up doing a lot of set design. I was an art major, design major.

The dorm story, though, is a little bit unbelievable because I started designing dorms in 2015 for blind people. Wow. So here's the way that it evolved is I'm a painter and I'm an artist. And, you know, when I went to school, I was very creative, but I used to get homesick a lot. And so my dorm, even though my dorm, you guys,

was like one mile away from my house, I got homesick. But because I love my, you know, my family, I have such a fun family. But anyway, so I remember, like, because that was in the 80s, I had Roblo posters and a neon phone and, you know, a zebra bed spread from Spiegel, which, you know, the time that's all,

It was fabulous. But I remember dipping my hands in like black oil-based paint and like doing designs all over my walls and design it. Well, you know, well, that was before I knew you couldn't do oil-based on walls. And I did get fine. But, you know, it was just, it's all worth it. It was so worth it because it was a space that I loved and I didn't get homesick. And, you know, and I felt like I was home even though I wasn't home. So, but fast forward.

And I moved to Jackson. I lived in Los Angeles a little while, and I've lived all over, but moved back to Mississippi. And I was in Jackson, and this lady was like, Lisa, you really need to, since you paint, you need to join this Canton flea market. You know, it's a big deal. Millions of people go. It's usually you need to set up a booth and sell your things. So I was like, oh, okay. At the time I did pointillism paintings, which is tons of tiny little dots that end up making up, you know, painting.

They're very time consuming. But, y'all, y'all, I didn't. didn't sell one thing all day. Like, I was there the whole day. Did not sell one thing because it wasn't on a stick. It didn't say happy fall, y'all. I mean, I was clearly, I had like, you know, my art was, they're nice pieces. Well, so I think.

And, but at the end of the day, this mom and daughter walked in to my booth and I was kind of taking it down. And she started feeling everything. Y'all, she, the mom was blind. The daughter was telling her what was in the past. painting and she was touching it and feeling it because it was pointillism and all these tiny little dots she was feeling her way through the art

and so I became so intrigued with that how y'all she bought four paintings from me and so it was kind of the running joke forever that I can't sell anything unless people can't see it but I became

very intrigued with this and so Mississippi is known for they have a school for the deaf and blind. And so I reached out to them and I viewed both campuses. The deaf school was gorgeous.

They had New Bamboo flooring. They had state of the art, everything. And then when I went to the school for the blind, you know, which was across the sidewalk, it was the most depressing thing. It was, it made me homesick and I didn't even live there. And I just got that same homesick feeling that I did back when, you know, I was in college at the dorm.

and they have over, I think we did over 40 dorms there. So what I did was, I was asking them, I said, do y'all not get funded by the state? They said, oh, no, we get a lot of money from the state. But everyone has a different level of blindness. And so some see pitch blacks. Some see like little tiny pinholes. You know, some can just see color and it's blurry. So they said, we have to buy textbooks to accommodate every single.

type of blindness. So one textbook could be $20,000 to $40,000 depending on the type of blindness you have. So they didn't have enough money to fund the living quarters. So I sphereheaded. I'm just a professional volunteer. I raise money all the time and not with any organizations just on my own when I see a cause that I'm passionate about. And I reached out to a lot of people. I think this was like 2015. I raised about $10,000 to redo about it was about, I guess, about 30 dorms, 30 doors. And the lobbies and the kitchen. And so everybody was kept saying, you know, why are you doing this?

They can't see. And I'm like, y'all, but they can and they can feel. And so I reached out to some schools that needed, you know, volunteer hours, you know, high school students. And I just kind of let them lose, gave them my vision, told them, you know, kind of guided them. But in every room, because what's such a small budget for that many rooms plus a lobby, plus the kitchen, plus everything. I really focused on colors, shapes, textures, you know, and I would paint paintings on the walls,

but they would all have a texture to them where the grass would have, you know, fill it the grass. And I wanted it to be very, I guess, where they could interact and feel at home and still be entertained and then still try to hit every level of type of blindness so that each girl could experience something while they were in the room and in the hall and on the lobby. And so honestly, that's kind of where it started was I started designing for blind people. I think that this honestly, like, because we're talking, obviously we're talking about this to some of the young women and also, too, we talked to another interior designer who's wonderful, but what you're describing right now to me is so interesting. Yeah.

It is interesting, isn't it? Doing that is the most, that is just so beautiful. Oh, well, thank you. That kind of work to me feels it's all important. And, you know, you want young girls to feel great about where they are and where they're living and where they put their head down. But that is, that's an amazing story. It truly is. And, you know, the fact that they are leaving their homes and they have such a challenge because they're blind and that they come into a space that feels like home or makes them feel happy to enter it.

that like just made my day. Like I want to cry for them. Well, thank you. I'm crying, tearing up. Yeah. I'm tearing up thinking about it because then they did a reception to thank me and then some of the donors that I was able to get. And so y'all, they cooked and they made cookies. And they gave tours to all of the donors and with their little walking sticks and showed them what their favorite parts were.

And it really was, you know, I think it was one of the best times of my life as well. Wow. You know, who knew that Canton Flea Market when I didn't sell one thing, what all it would, you know, what it would turn into. Yeah. That was in 2015? It was 2015. Okay, cool.

So how has it like evolved from them because it or from then? Because now you're still doing dorm rooms, right? Right. I'm still doing dorm rooms. And y'all theirs have held up. I went and visited not too long ago and I was shocked to see how well that it was, that it held up. And so, you know, nothing is really like out of season or or, or not that, you know,

know, trans come and go, but the way we did it was just, it was magical, it was colorful, it was bright, it was cheery, and I felt so sorry because these girls, you know, some of them had to stay through the weekends, some of them would get, get to go home on the weekends. So I had like all of the bedding, you know, I had donations so I could do new bedding, new bedtoppers, the phone pads, the, you know, the new pillows, just anything that could make it very comfortable for them. As a mom, being homesick is the worst thing I think a child can have.

And a lot of, you know, my husband says, I don't understand that homesick feeling y'all keep talking about. And I'm like, maybe it's a girl thing. I don't know, but I never want a child to feel homesick and where they can't get home or see their parent or their mom. Yeah. That's beautiful. All of that.

And I just, I do want to touch on sort of quickly now because I don't want to run out of time. But you design the, we have. pictures of the most beautiful dorm room that you designed. It is, again, we had another designer on here. Our hearse was fabulous and they were really bold colors. This is a sort of very feminine girl. But I'm looking at it. I feel like, Daisy, this would be right up your alley.

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strikes me the most about this, that it looks first of all, nothing like a dorm room and it doesn't look like a place you could ever actually study because I feel Like their desk are now these beautiful vanities. So girls, you're going to have to go to the library because you have no place to study here, which, I mean, I think the tradeoff was just fine. Me too.

Well, thank you. It's crazy because a lot, you know, I never studied at a desk. I always studied, you know, on my bed or with a pillow. You know, my mom's like, okay, your bed's not the best place to study. But, you know, that's just always where I did. And it was crazy because I was the type personality where I could not study unless my room was completely clean and then I could study. but it was so funny because the girls that I did this dorm room for were the same way.

Like, you know, I see a lot of comments. Oh, I can't wait to see this dorm in two months or three months. And I was like, I guarantee, was these girls just going to be the same. They were vacuum before I even left again. Oh, my God. If I had a wait for my dorm room to be clean to study, I would have failed right out. Hi, thank you for coming. And one of them is a, she's an Ole Miss cheerleader.

And so we were laughing that we're going to. we were going to put a little tiny trampling in the middle of the bed so she could just jump on in that bed when she could because the beds are so tall. They're four stories. It's so high. Yeah. They're so high. I mean, there's so much underneath those beds that, you know, just for maximum storage and the dressers and everything. But, yeah, we joked with her that we were going to put her little mini trampoline in the middle.

I was like, well, that might be kind of fun for next year. You could exercise and jump on in that bed. What is your favorite place to source this kind of stuff? So, like, people that are listening to this that are getting ready to move their kids into college. Like, where do you go to find this? great stuff that is kind of dorm-sized. So I will tell you, I'm a huge fan and I've been using spoon flour forever because they run fabulous sales in the summer.

So I always tell my people to wait until the Memorial Day sales, Labor Day sales, and then you get the sale price plus the new entering your email sale. But Spoonflower does it where you can do coordinating wallpaper, fabric, shower curtains, towels, you name it. The same pattern can be done in pillowcases. throw pillows. So you are, it is so user friendly and you're able to click on this pillow and pull it with this fabric and pull it with this fabric. And even if you aren't good at that, anybody can do it. And anybody can say, I'll click on this pillow to match this and this.

It is very user friendly. You like it more than dormify? I do, but Spoonflower gives you such a range that no matter what your personality is, you can find a fabric that suits your personality. I found that a lot of girls, it's hard when you are, when you are trying to please two moms, two daughters. Yeah. Two budgets. And with this corner room, I had a corner room this past year. There was three girls, three moms. And it's just, you know, you've got different budgets, different tastes, different everything.

So with spoon flour, I was able to pull like, okay, you like this, you like zebras, you like flowers. I can coordinate it on this one site and then get a throw pillow and make it happen for both of. you and it just kind of pleases everybody. Amazon, of course, is great. Wayfair is great, you know, for price points. Because, you know, we go to used all these used dorm sites at the end of the year all the time and buy everything you use. We repaying it.

I'll add some molding to it. I'll, you know, hot glue something to it or hot glue some wallpaper. You know, we'll do it and try to change it up and make it their own. But, you know, I've even gotten to wear the spoonflower peel and stick wallpaper because wallpaper is a huge topic own. and so what we were done, what I did a couple of years back, was actually about three years back,

was I had noticed nobody was using wallpaper in dorms. Well, I had this really cute mirror I wanted to use in my daughter's room. I said, well, the mirror's not going to look good against that wall. I was like, I'm going to wallpaper. Well, at that time, pill and stick wasn't, you know, really trending or wasn't that, you know, like it is now. So I put it, I went to Lowe's and I got phone boards

and a wallpaper phone board panels from Lowe's, and then I popped them up in her dorm and y'all, I mean, it took off like crazy. So it was a huge honor because everybody the next year was doing that. Well, did you act in it? Are you selling it? You should be. No, that's what somebody reached out to me.

She was like, you totally need to do this. So I was on the dorm rooms. There's a website who's so invaluable to anybody moving in a dorm and it's the dorm rooms of Mississippi and beyond. And it is a wealth, wealth of information, mess ups, do this. don't do this, this work, this didn't work. And it's just moms and designers just own there collaborating and talking. And so, but I remember them reaching out to me saying, okay, this is gone viral. We cannot keep our inbox. How did you do the wallpaper panels? And I was like, well, you know, you just go to load. So I do need to do a tutorial, but that does help a lot when,

you know, for the schools that don't allow it. Because there are a lot of schools that don't, I mean, this is SEC. We, I think, I don't know why we do this. We're over the top. We're over the stop. We can't help it. You have to patent that. Yeah, you really really do. You have to patent that. What are you doing? No, I can barely get on my Zoom call. I don't even know. I'll patent it. I know. Okay, I have two questions for you. Okay. First of all, like, I could see there being a huge demand for people wanting to use you. So how long does it take you to kind of bring one dorm together, room together, assuming like there's two girls in it? And how many projects can you take on like over? a summer to get kids ready to move in in the fall.

So realistically, that's the issue because we've had such a, I've had so many people this year already trying to reserve me for 2027, which is huge. I'm excited. Don't get me. I'm so excited. Good for you. Realistically, but I want to make sure I can do them all and do them all. Yeah. So, and so that's, that's kind of the catch 22. It's interesting because there are always hiccups. You have, when you have your roommate, you get your roommate, you start thinking,

if they reach out to us, they reserve a designer, and then you start talking about their color scheme. You can't do anything other than that, really, until you find out exactly what dorm room you will be in. Because all of the dorm rooms are different. And so to buy something that doesn't fit, that may not fit your space or what dorm you might get, is you can't do that until almost a couple of months until May, actually.

So you really only have a couple of months to buy your furniture, you know, and get all of that, I guess situated knowing what dorm room but see even your dorm rooms even though you have the plans okay I'm in dorm room 817 these are our plans they're still all very different you're going to have an outlet here you're going to have there's always unexpected you're going to have a jut out that's not on the plan so you have to be prepared to be ready for all of those hiccups because no matter what dorm room you get in you're going to have a hiccup and you're going to have some huge hiccups you know so I'm going to say they start planning but then the other thing is

is I've had a lot of people. I've had four people this year reach out to me. I'm heading to Oxford again tomorrow because one girl lost her roommate, very last minute, like two weeks before move in. They put her in a different dorm room. She had bought everything for a certain dorm room. Nothing fits. She had to move to a different dorm room. I'm heading there tomorrow to try to make her dorm room work with everything that they've already purchased with the other roommate who was now at another school last minute. So it's a lot of problem solving. And there's a lot of things. things that are going to change up last minute, like my daughter's roommate did the same thing to her.

She found on Instagram that her daughter, that her roommate wasn't going to move in with her a month before moving in. So, you know, you have all that gut that kind of goes on too, that, you know, it's a lot of problem solving, but they do start, like they've already started now for next year. Wow. Okay. They plan ahead. Wow.

Yeah. At least where do our listeners find you? Oh, okay. so I might as well have MySpace. And I don't know if y'all remember MySpace. I do. So, okay. I might as well have that. I have Facebook and Instagram and we are trying to get on TikTok. And so we're experiencing learning curves.

But it's Lisa Dice, D-Y-E-S-S. So I'm on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok. Great. Thank you so much for joining us. Y'all, thank you so much. I'm so excited. I love your story. Thank you for sharing your story.

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And very, very different experience. So, yeah, we went. to be you together before I transferred, but I met Shari at college. And neither one of us had an experience anything. But like Joan, you know, it's like, what a different time. But she was describing it to me. First of all, she said it was maybe the hottest day she'd ever experienced in her, you know, 58 years.

It was just awful. And they pick from a lottery. So she had like the last two hours, you know, You can't come in until your time is allotted. And they had to be somewhere after that two hours. So she had two hours. There was no interior designer coming in to transform the dorm room. And it was four flights up.

Of course. Yeah. On that hot day. Right. So there's like different kinds of dorms that you are either lucky enough or unlucky enough to get. If you get the nicest newest one, sometimes you get the oldest crappiest one. So she didn't get the nicest newest. So it was two hours just trying to figure out where to put her clothes.

And she said she had bought, knowing that it was, you know, a dorm room and that was often a problem. She bought these plastic drawers to put together. But she had a leave. Poor Jolie. She said they had a leave to go to an orientation. And it was really they encouraged you would do not to like let your kid go. There's a whole ceremony. and don't come back kind of thing. And so in a good way.

But anyway, but she, you know, left her with boxes. And there was no, you know, wallpapering the walls. And, you know, I think she has apparently got a really nice roommate, but they decided they didn't want to necessarily coordinate. So just a completely different experience. And a difficult one. I mean, I would think if I was having an interior designer come in and do my dorm room, it would be a very cheery, exciting experience as opposed to, and especially as a parent, right?

Like, to be able to turn that responsibility over, I did not enjoy decorating my daughter's dorm room. My sons, I told him he really didn't let me do much. He had a whole big in for. See you later, mom. I got college girls to meet. Yep. But, yeah, it wasn't like that. And we're both moms. So we moved our kids into dorm rooms. And like that leaving that first

day is really hard. It really is right. Yeah. And it's kind of comforting when you know you left them. Like the bed is made. It looks really pretty. And you have everything. You bought all their books for them. You have it all set up on their desk. Like the small things that we did because that's only, that's the, I mean, I'm older than you. I'm 63. So like this is even farther back. But like those things made you feel good. I feel really bad for your, friend because I bet she felt very unsettled leaving her daughter in that room. That sounds like it was still a little bit in shambles. And I wonder, did she talk about any of the other rooms, did she walk by rooms that were over the top decorated? And did she feel? I don't think she had time to do that because they were on such time crunch.

And so it was, I don't think that she, I mean, the room had like the air conditioner that was sitting in the window, which she said, you know, thankfully worked. I remember when she moved my niece in to watch you. there was no air conditioning. This is going back. I don't know. I had no AC. Okay.

There you go. I went to University of Maryland. It's hot here. It is hot. So, but it was hard. I wonder if Duke is doing that on purpose. So it sounds like they all had like two hour time slots that were really short. And they,

maybe they're doing that on purpose because they don't want these over the top dorm rooms. They want everybody to feel like the person down the hall that doesn't have a nicer space than they do. Like that everybody's more equal. Yeah, the only reason I don't think so is because I think, let's say you get the morning slot, you don't get kicked out. No. Right. So then you have the day. You have the whole day. Right. And for what I understand, it's not necessarily it.

But, you know, I don't know. The only thing I could think is you're very busy at Duke. It's a hard school. Yeah, sure is. So, you know, maybe you're in the library. I don't know. But I only know Shari's experience. I don't know if you have a couple mothers with kids that went to Duke. Yeah. I don't know. any mothers and like you, I have lots of friends that have moved their kids into college. And I definitely, everybody posts the rooms and talked about it with their kids and what colors and what does your roommate think and all that. But I don't know anyone that's done it to this

extent. No, no. These ones were over the top. Yeah. And I think that's why they're on the show. Yeah. Yeah. The first one that Riley did by herself looked like she had a designer there, right? She's artistic. She's good. And God bless her. You know, I mean, if that's, that is, I can, I look at that and I think, well, fabulous. I don't know.

And I feel, I feel, I feel a little bad because I don't want to, I don't, I'm not trying to insult these wonderful women, these wonderful talented women, what they. Yeah. Yeah. It's beautiful. Yeah. I mean, and it's the, you know, family's choices. And their interior designers, that's what they do for a living.

They're being hired to do this. So they did a great job. I think that maybe we're questioning like this whole thought that this over-the-top dorm experience now is taking away maybe from other people. Also, it's just a lesson that I don't know. I don't know. I'm just sound so judgy, but I don't mean to. But it's just when she said, you know, it's an extension of home. I don't know that I want college to feel or wanted it to feel like necessarily an extension of home.

I mean, I agree with you. It's okay to miss to be homesick. Both my kids were. I think it's, you know, it's, you grow from it. And it's a lot, a lot of money for one year, just a lot of it that I don't, I wouldn't necessarily subscribe to. But again, it's that maybe is judgy and these women did incredible jobs. So you guys, Lisa shared her information, how to find her. Amy Joyce designs.

I'm sure you can find her on Instagram, J-O-Y-C-E or TikTok or wherever. She has a lovely website. I looked at it before we started this. She is very talented. You should see the home she does. So I mean, dorm room is like I think she said is very small part of her business. You should check out her website. It's pretty incredible. It really is. I have to say though, for Riley, the one that did her own dorm room, I like that she sourced things. She, she worked hard to not spend a lot of money. She wasn't an interior designer doing this. She did this on her own. And I think that actually, that was kind of a good lesson. I think she maybe learned something from this experience. Yeah. Yeah, I do too. Very talented young lady. Yeah.

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