The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Dirty Rush: Two Truths and a Lie

Episode Date: September 27, 2025

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Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life with your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. We are doing part two answering all your questions, debunking everything. We are back here with the girls. So listen up. This one's going to be juicy. Did you guys get hazed at all? No.

I didn't, no. Not at all. No, I would say no. I can tell one story. The only thing they did. And I don't know if this is hazing. I don't think it is. We had like a courtyard and then like a balcony.

and the actives, we called them Actives and we were pledges, the actives were stood on the balcony and we were in the courtyard and they just said, can you spell my last name? That was the most hazing we had the whole time. Which I could.

I think my chapter might have gotten a little bit in trouble for a hazing thing before I came, so there was like zero when I came through. Not like kicked off campus, obviously, but I think they got a hand slap, so they were super careful. I think the boys definitely do.

Yeah. I mean, I never heard of hazing ever. I always hear of the banana in the toilet. You guys don't know this story. I don't know if this is true. Which one? This was always the rumor, not for girls, but for boys, that the boys would, there'd be a banana in the toilet or something like that. It still sounds very gross.

And the boys would have to reach into the toilet and then eat the banana. Oh. But first of all, even if it was a banana and if it was in the toilet. At a fraternity house, too. Yeah, so I don't know if I have that right, but that was always the one I heard. Fraternities are the grossest thing I've ever said that for. And probably that people in fraternities, first of all, they're not listening to this show. But if they were, they're probably laughing, thinking that would be the least of them.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I have heard a story, and I don't know if it's true or not, of a popular school that a lot of my friends went to. they had girls this was their version of hazing they had girls stand on top of an empty washer I knew that's what I was going to say I heard that on something like a dryer yeah they had them stand on an empty dryer that was running like a load of laundry but there's nothing in it so it was shaking around and then girls would take sharpies and like circle what was jiggling oh that's horrible

I've heard that I can't believe that could be true I can't believe that could be true either but I've heard people who have claimed that it has happened to them. Wow. I think that is cruel. I remember being like nervous about that when I was rushing. I was like, do that to me? That's how widespread it like was. I think it's so ridiculous.

It's crazy. How everyone checks their Halloween candy. And did you know that's like a not a thing? Yeah, crazy blades in the apple. Yeah. Thank you, Easton's here. We have one guy here. That was a whole fake thing.

You know how like your mom would be like, I'd to check your Halloween candy? Yeah. Somebody's poisoning the Halloween candy. And, like, it never actually ever happened, but it became this, like, urban legend. And so that's what this feels like in the Halloween came here. That is what this feels like. Yeah, so I think, too.

Okay. Our initiation ceremonies really is creepy and dramatic as they are portrayed. I say, yes. They are a little bit. You're a Kappa? Yeah. I heard Kappa's was weird. I don't know if we're any weird than anyone else, but, like, there was definitely, this is what will I say that I feel

comfortable saying? So I'll tell you what I'll feel comfortable saying. Number one, there were palm fronds. I never knew what a pomfron was. Oh, we got those. Palm fronds. Robs, for sure, robes. Yes.

I believe there was some sprinkling of water. And I will say this, which I'm totally throwing the anonymous thing out the window, but my mom was also in my same sorority, in my same house. So there was a room. We got, you kind of get all paraded around. And there was a room, and I won't name it, but it has. had like a certain color and it was definitely like all woo woo decorated weird and um someone came out of the room and they go dude your mom's in there like and my mom was i remember kind of being very sleep and looking up and i'm like my mom's in here like there's a rumor so i feel

comfortable saying that part there's a rumor one sorority requires their um what do you call those the girls the like pledges pledges to get into a casket not us No, it wasn't Kappa. I've never heard that. We'll have to chat about this later. That feels just like a Halloween. But kind of like, and then they wear like nude,

this is the rumor, they wear like a nude bra and underwear and they get into a casket. Not, that is definitely. I mean, they're free. Yeah. So that sounds really creepy. So that sounds really creepy.

Well, actually just be like knelt down at the front and they like make you recite the stuff. Yeah, it's more like a ceremony. Did you guys have to drink anything? No. It wasn't alcohol, but we had to drink a little sip of this thing. Like, the blood clison. I was like, I'm like, I have a lot of allergies.

Like, what is this? And they're like, no, we can't tell you. It's what's that? And they had a secret name for it. Osa, or when people like go and they like trip and it's like, oh, ayahuasca. They made you do ayahuasca. Y'all was in this like convention center.

Like, if somebody tried to tell me to drink something, I'd be like, absolutely. I was freaked out. I was like, guys, I have a lot of allergies. Like, what is this? And they're like, we can't tell you. And then I drank it and I was allergic to us. So I had to go take a Benitochrome. No, okay.

It was just like her juice, but is that considered hazing then? I felt like mine was like, you know, like, if you're like religious or you're at church and like you hear the pastor say something, it just like hits and you just start crying. Yeah. That's like how my sorority thing was. Like I just started like, everyone was so emotional and like crying. Everyone was like in white room. I barely remember.

It's very fuzzy. I cannot totally remember. Our pre-frown was where the tears came. Yeah, yeah. Same. I remember our initiation was, or at least the two I've been in, were always the Sunday after Halloween weekend.

So everyone was just really hung over. So like if there were emotions, it was like not from the initiation. It was a bit rough. Okay, what about this one? Did your sorority have any secret rituals? I know you said you have the secret code. We had tons.

I feel left out. A password, a knock, a knock, a handshake, all kinds of secret songs, all kinds of stuff. You guys didn't? We had the knock. We had the handshake. During Rush, we had specific songs that we would sing when the girls would go through that I don't think other sororities did. But I don't have a password.

Why don't you have a password? If we didn't, they didn't tell them how to pass. I mean, maybe I just was left out of it and someone's going to listen and be like, you definitely had a password you were supposed to know. I definitely use it as, like, a lot of my email logins. That's smart. Oh, is it true? Some houses have secret rooms only certain members can enter.

Not that I know. I think the chapter room had some sort of secret back room. I don't think I did. Could you have boys in your house? Yes. Not like not after a certain amount of, like, hour or not after a day. Oh, yeah, they could come. Yeah, I think ours was like nine to five.

They could come upstairs, but, and they could eat me. I think it's interesting too because like the fraternities are the ones that always have the parties like at San Diego State like a sorority would never ever have a party in the house. No, no.

Never. Never. You can't drink in the house. So how would you have a party? Well, you can't, but you can be sneaky. Okay. Do sororities ever vote people out

for not fitting an aesthetic? No. No. No. I'm glad everyone agrees on them. Yeah. I wasn't sure how other schools were, but I... Yeah.

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Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

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power. It's also given me a lot of responsibility. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do sororities really find members for silly things like missing events or not wearing the right outfit? Yes. Yes. I would say like missing events, yes, but not wearing the right outfit? I think the outfit thing.

For a chapter you had to wear. Yeah. You had a skirt. A normal chapter. We had to wear a skirt. If you didn't wear a dress. And they had to wear like a white dress in the beginning of the year when there were new members. They had to go through their like

step program thing. Yeah, like your initiation rituals or whatever. You had to wear a white dress and certain color shoes. I think it was new. Because I'm old. Do you still have to wear a skirt to like Monday night dinner? No. No, I wear sweats. But Monday night was chapter. So you have to wear a dress. We had to wear, yeah, Monday night we had to wear

to the dinner. I don't remember what my most. You had to wear a skirt. But it was so, it was like the 90s. So people would literally be wearing jeans and pull a skirt over it. We would do something like that. We'd wear like a boots and a dress. And they didn't matter about the shoes. That was the night, too. It was like a more formal dinner.

I don't totally remember how that worked, but it was definitely more formal. Yeah. Because it was right before chapter. We didn't use China or anything, but. So you had to be dressed to go into chapter. You need paper plates? We used, no, they were like ceramic. We had like special China that we would have for like very formal dinners.

Oh, wow. Okay. We'd have it like a couple times a year. It was like the special Katie China. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. Fancy. Do sororities burn or, yeah, burn or bury items during initiation ceremonies?

No. No. No. Okay. Good, juicy, weird question. Is there really a blood oath or vow that lasts forever? No blood. No blood.

I think the vow is kind of like figurative. Like, I promise to, you know, be with these sisters for life. But it's like no one's holding you to that. Yeah, I think you like say it very good. We all live together We all also probably vowed not to expose the secrets that we're exposing

the password. That's why I feel okay about it. You're saying it all to that password As long as you don't give away the password. That's right. Nope. Golden rule. I won't give you my knock or my handshake either.

Nope. I'll give it to the other girl my sorority right here. Okay. Is what you see in the movies like Legally Blonde or the House Bunny remotely accurate? It feels too pink for me. All that was so pink.

Very girly. Well, definitely not the stereotype. I just think about that one scene from Legally Blonde where the date is coming to the house and all the girls are peeking over the balcony and out the windows and stuff. That's like extreme. Wait, that's kind of real. We did that. Really?

Yeah, when we lived in the house, we had a front balcony that looked over. And if a girl was going to go on a date, like one of our friends, he had to come up and, like, pick her up from the door. And we would all be, like, standing on the balcony watching. My gosh. Yeah. My room, like, outlooks are a little porch. I'm always snooping. Yeah.

What's going on. It was kind of real. Yeah. How cinematic. Maybe they were inspired. Yeah. Okay. Is it true that some sororities have date dungeons or secret hookup rooms?

no gross no that is so gross i would say like like not intentionally but there just happens to be rooms that like have continuously been like the hookup room like bring a guy in there well no like it's like there's like the guest bathroom like if you're roommates home or there's like a basement like there's just sort of you can i don't know figure things out in your roommate town we have cameras everywhere in the house we have a thing called the date room yeah we have that too but you would just like it's so old timey again proper you'd be like no one even went in the date room i'm trying to think of like i never brought my boyfriend in but like nobody's doing like we definitely had a basement room that it was like people would watch tv but oh we had no basement yeah that's

fun scandal okay do members really keep secrets for life like you'd get in trouble if you told yes i still am afraid if i tell you that's do that word i'm sure She would have come from somebody being like, you are no longer a sister. There does, there has to be like some like psychological thing with that because like it is like a fear. I feel like a lot of people have like totally. Like they like engrave like a trust in you or something. Yeah. I feel like if you take, they make you feel so special for being chosen to be in the sorority.

Yeah. Like you chose each other kind of thing. Yeah. Where I feel like you just feel like I don't know how to explain it. It's why we, when we created this show, we. you wanted people to feel they could be anonymous because all these things, TikTok, Hulu's thing, you know, Lifetime's thing, they're never really good because people are too afraid to actually tell their true stories. So that's why we feel like this podcast is good.

Yeah. I love it too. Despite your mean reviews, we get those too. But we'll read those. One of these upcoming episodes, we'll read those. But we feel like because people are anonymous, they actually will tell more than they would otherwise. I think the thing too about being in a sorority, like, it's so fun. And I honestly, it helped me so much in college. But, like, I love, like, all my, like, crazy stories that I have from it. Like, I feel like a lot of people, when they, like, call in and, like, talk to, it's, like, these crazy stories that, like, happened in their sorority.

But a lot of time, people don't want to share them because they're like, oh, is it bad if I share that? But I'm like, they're just, like, fun college stories. But I do like that I know the password, and I won't name her because she's anonymous, but the girl next to me. I know she's in my same sorority. And I know she knows the password. And we kind of, it's like a bond. It's like a little, like, extra bond between us. Yeah, when we first met, you gave me the handshake.

And I have to admit, I almost didn't remember it. But yeah, that's like a special thing between us. It was. Okay. Last question. Do sorority members secretly blacklist girls they don't like? Yes. For sure.

Yeah, I think like going through the row. Right. We call the hometown con. hometown con you would stand up in the meeting and say you would probably say something like I'm so sorry guys

but this is a hometown con because blotty blah yeah did blotty blotty blah yeah I feel like there's every sorority probably has a system where they if someone did something

really bad in high school they find a way to make sure rush team knows yeah we have that too it's called like character concerns because it's like genuinely like if that hypothetical person joins the house and then

makes a bunch of other people that they know from home uncomfortable. If they are not a good person, then we don't want them here. Yeah. It's not like we don't like them because like, oh, they're not pretty or something. It's like if they're a bad person. Yeah. Like we don't want you to be a part of. Yeah, because you don't know. Social media has made it easier

now, but back before it was such a big part of rush, I feel like you know, you just kind of have to go based off of other people's experiences with them and you kind of have to do it. Do any of your, this never happened in my house. But I heard about it where girls would steal clothes or jewelry or things from like someone's room. This never happened at my house.

I know. But I did hear about it across the street. Why do I think, I feel like it faintly happened in mine. I like can't fully remember, but like that sounds familiar. I have that with food. Oh, food. We still have that with food because we have like a communal fridge. And we found the culprit.

No. Because it was this like junior when we were all sophomores. and like it's totally fine but I think she had this mentality of like okay well if it's not a girl's food that I know no one's gonna know but then we all would like everyone was separately catching her eating a food that didn't belong to her like multiple dogs

we didn't have locks on the doors did you do you have locks on your bedroom doors oh wait yeah you could lock it but we like didn't have a key oh yeah we didn't have actually I don't think you could even lock it I don't know I think only the president's door locked on our house it's also like I'm pretty sure we had cameras in ours

in your rooms not in the rooms were like in the hallways. Our halls didn't. Like the residence halls didn't have cameras, but like everywhere else in the house. Even the stairs had cameras, I think. Cameras. Is there any other like rumor or like,

I don't know, do you call it a misnomer? Is that the right word? Like something that people always think about sororities that are actually not true. And we wouldn't have pillow fights, that's for sure. We did slide down the stairs with our mattresses like in the princess tires. We did.

Yeah, we took our little twin mattresses off of the bed and, like, slid down the stairs one night. But that's not a rumor. That's just, like, a funny little memory that we have. That's cute. Yeah. I think, honestly, for me, like, being in a sorority, like, I didn't know much about it. And I was like, that's so stupid. I'm never going to do that.

My roommate was like, will you please, like, rush with me? And she paid my, like, rush fee or whatever to do it. And I was like, okay, whatever, I'll do it. And, like, I have, like, my favorite times and, like, my best memories in it. Yeah, I would go back 100%. Like I'm hoping that when I'm like 80, that there's a bunch of other 80-year-old sorority sisters and they're like, hey, I'm alone too, want to live there again?

We'll all just live together and play mahjohn or something. I would totally go back. I miss it every day. Totally, me too. Hi there, this is Josh Clark from the Stuff You Should Know podcast. If you've been thinking, man alive, I could go for some good true crime podcast episodes, then have we got good news for you. Stuff You Should Know just released a playlist of 12 of our best true crime episodes of all time. There's a shootout in broad daylight, people using axes in really terrible ways,

disappearances, legendary heists, the whole nine yards. So check out the Stuff You Should Know true crime playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen,

investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, and I wouldn't be

here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I port. guess on her.

From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season at free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.

Hey, everybody, this is Matt Rogers. And Bowen Yang. And you're never going to guess who's our guest on Las Culturistas. It is Bradley Jackson, Elle Woods, Tracy Flick herself. Reese Witherspoon. Reese, it must go in a girl's trip. I have to. tequila.

We must. Oh. The Q rating. When they run diagnostic on you guys. I'd be scared. Run the Q rating. No on the Q rating on us.

My resiliency score is down to adequate because we were on a red eye. My resiliency score. My grit. I got to get my grit score up. Now, don't think that you're going to come out Los Culture East. That's the podcast.

And we're not going to at least bring up Big Little Lies, Season 3. Whoever said orange is the new pink. We seriously disturbs. Listen to Las Culturistas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present.

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All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the on-purpose podcast. Today, I'm joined by Emma Watson. Emma Watson. Emma Watson has apparently quit acting. Emma Watson has announced she's retiring from acting. Has anyone else noticed that we haven't seen Emma Watson?

in anything in several years? Emma Watson is opening up the truth behind her five-year break from acting. Watson said she wasn't very happy. Was acting always something you were going to do? I was using acting as a way of escaping to feel free. My parents, it wasn't just the divorce, it was just like the continuing situation of living between two different houses and two different lives and two different sets of values, the career and the life that looks like the dream.

but are you really happy fame has given me this extraordinary power it's also given me a lot of responsibility listen to on purpose with j shetty on the iHeart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts okay i actually i have two more questions let's do them okay um do you guys think are legacies guaranteed a spot It's not guaranteed, but I think it can help. Not anymore, but what I know, which I didn't know then, was because I was a legacy when I made it to, which my mom knew, so I was like on Pref Night stressing and my mom slept like a baby because she knew. So it used to be, and this has changed.

If you were a legacy and you got to Pref Night, you would be on the top of the list. Yeah, and they won't cut you. Yeah, if you go to Pref Night and you're a legacy, you're in. But the rusher doesn't know, but the girls in the house know, and, like, the mom knew. Yeah. I think that's how it was at San Diego State, too. I don't think it's like that at Ole Miss, because there's, like, weird glitches that can happen sometimes when, like, this girl picks the sorority, and that sorority picks her, and something, I actually know for a fact that's happened to a few people. And it doesn't work, and then they get dropped.

You also couldn't get dropped on the first day if you were a legacy in my era. It's not, it's not. It's so kind of, I think, probably, like. like that for a lot. So a crazy sense you were in your sorority and then your little sister was in the same one, was she considered a legacy or does it have to be your mom? I think she was considered a legacy.

Her in-house sister. That's like the strongest there is. But if you're an in-house sister. It is the strongest but there are stories and there are girls I know of a couple and I'll top of my head. In-house sister stuff went down.

Marjorie over there. What's your name? I don't remember you. Marjorie. Morgan. Morgan. That happened to Morgan. Yeah, I hopped into my younger sister. They dropped her right off of that. And you want to know why I think that was

is because her rogama was in my sorority. She didn't know that. And she told her, oh, I'm open to doing anything. Not even that she didn't want to go my house, but just that she was open to exploring other options too. And after the next round. Do you think Rogams and Rocha's are calling the house and like breaking the rules?

Because I never thought I think so they're like Okay at almost they were like devoted Really? Yeah They're snitches They're sleuths out there You're gonna be wary of that

I always feel like the girls that did that Were very like They weren't that involved in their sorority Yeah They were trying to find a home elsewhere But like they liked their sorority I don't know how to explain it Wow

That makes sense Maybe they were I think they were devoted to their job where they were like, you will never find out what's for a I'm in. I don't know. I have a question for you. Oh, juicy.

I'm ready. Do you guys think they should be guaranteed a spot? Legacies? Yeah. See, I do. I think they should bring the legacy thing back. I think it's like a bummer that that's not around anymore. Because it doesn't mean you're automatically in,

but there was something I liked about the tradition of that and the whole legacy of what the sorority is. Yeah. There's something I like about the tradition, the capital bloodline. Yeah. No, I agree. I think that they can be like noticed as a legacy, which they I think still are, but I don't think you should be like guaranteed a spot. But if you get to PrEP, I do like that you would get to go on the top of the list. I mean, there's something about it I like. Yeah. Okay, my question for you is, and they've done away with it now, but do you recall during rush, the active member would go out and yell out to the P&M, the potential new. member and they would pick based off of who is liked the most in order. Does that make sense?

Wait, explain it. So I'm the active member and y'all are the P&Ms. Are we pledges already? Are we in? No, this is during rush week. And I, instead of going an alphabetical order, which is how they do it now, they would call out their like favorite girl. So they'd be like, so and so. And then toward the end of the line, like you could tell this house didn't really like you because you were like at the end. No, I don't know anything about that. They didn't do that for you. What we knew was as like rushies, we were called rushies, like if a bunch of

actives were coming over, so you know you're sitting throughout the house and like bump groups are going, if a lot of actives were coming over and like, oh, yeah, oh, hey, you know, or Susan told me to come say, hey, I think you kind of got a feeling like, oh, I think this is going okay for me. I think this is going well here. And they still do that for sure. Yeah. But, yeah, when they, so I don't know how they did it for y'all,

but you stand outside of the house, all the rushes stand outside of the house, and then members from inside. Oh, when you're coming in. They run out and they go, John Doe. Jane Doe. John Doe.

Jane Doe! And then she, like, runs up. But usually it's like A to Z. Oh. This may be just be a rumor. Wait, why do I know? I think something like that happens at San Diego State. Where they would be like, oh, we think Daisy.

Like, if you're in front of the house. house. Yeah, you like stand outside. Yeah. And I'm so excited to welcome back. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. That's what it is.

Oh, I don't remember this at all. I just remember all walking in and a big clunk. So you would stand in lines, which it was an alphabetical order for us. But if way back when, I don't know if there's a room or not, but they're like, oh, Daisy Kent, like, we really need to like show her. We love her. They call her name first. So Gracie was like, come home and be like, I'm so excited to talk again to Daisy

Kent. And then I'd like walk up. Is that what y'all would do? Ors would just, we'd, like, scream the name as long as we could, and the girl would run off. But none of you got dirty rushed. I did. I did. Yeah.

You did, too. What happened to you? It was just a fee, actually. They, like, this is, like, dramatic. Maybe not dirty rush, but they just, like, DM'd me on Instagram. And apparently, DM'd, like, a bunch of girls. No way. I'd be looking at the, like, class of 2020, whatever.

And this is during rush? This was right before. Oh, wow. Like, I wanted to make sure that you sent in the application to show your interest in rushing. If you have any questions, like, let me know. And they say in the message, like, they're kind of, they're not alluding to like, oh, join like our sorority, but they're just like, it's obviously kind of you can imply like, okay, this girl and this sorority is

DMing me, then like, maybe they're nice. Maybe I'll join them. Yeah. I can't remember if I told this story, but I definitely got phone calls during rush. I don't want to out one of my like literally oldest friends still. And she would call my, because I lived in a different, not, you know, I lived in a different place. We didn't live in the sorority our freshman year. So we all live somewhere and the phone would ring landline we didn't even have cell phones and the voice would say say hi mom and i was like oh hi mom but it was the girl calling from the house to find out like to get dirt like okay wow who likes us what's happening tell us who likes us interesting so i was like i'll tell you everything and i still was not like realizing like i'm in i still was like very nervous like

I hope they take me. And then I was like, wait a minute, I should have put two and two together. They wouldn't let us bring our phones. That's something that's different from then versus now. We had to leave our phones like in our dorm room. We could not bring our phones. And when we would go and do ranking at the end of the day,

you could not say a peep in line. So there was like one time where I got trouble. But now you do it on your phone. Like it's crazy. Yeah, we went to this big like, yeah, a classroom. and I accidentally like bumped into a girl

and I was like oh sorry and the lady was like do you guys know what a scantron is yeah I think we filled it out on a scantron I think we kind of did too are you 25 oh whoa yeah no I think we did a scantron

old miss I remember filling out bubbles I think scantron I want to say we did something very similar to that kind of being panicked like yeah it was on paper one B you know making like like 50 checks to make sure

I was not blowing the scantron. I don't know why that's what I think, but that's like what my memory is thinking. I could be totally making that. Like, yeah, definitely risky. Like your preferences could like disappear or be changed or...

With like a pencil, I know. Yeah, that sounds risky to me. We were, we did ours on the computer, but... We didn't have computers. In the 90s, like, we didn't have cell phones and we didn't have computers.

I had like an Apple 2E or something. So you had to like etch years into rocks. Yeah, like Will Mufflinstone. I was like, I want Kappa into the stone with a chisel. It in there. Well, this was dirty. Okay, everyone, remember if you have any more questions you want us to debunk or have any tea, you want to spill. Call us at 844-278 rush.

That's 844-278 rush. Or if you don't want to call in, you can also email Dirty Rush at iHeartRadio.com. You will be kept anonymous. So, call in, give us the tea, give us the juice. Give us everything. Thanks for tuning in. Love you guys. Bye.

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