The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Dirty Rush: What in the Love Shack Fancy is Going On Here?

Episode Date: August 22, 2026

It is time to peel back the curtains on the madness that is taking place in college dorm room design and decor. Is it five-star chic? Or girls gone wild? Should a dorm room break the bank?See omnystud...io.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:13 I can wait four hours for the next bus or this random dude is offering me a ride on his motorcycle. I chose option B. I'm Julie Pinero, and I travel by myself because it's a rare space where I can say yes without asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word Solita, trading the pity for possibility. Listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for-you page are equally important to your personality, welcome home. Pro Society is a weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island to serve the same level of discourse. Each week, we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and pop culture.
Starting point is 00:01:59 with your favorite writers, book talk creators, and plenty of overthought opinions. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth About Sorority Life. With your host, me, Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Fessler. Hi, guys, I am Jen Fessler, joined by Daisy Kent and Joan Vassos. and we are Dirty Rush.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Today we are here to talk all things, dorm rooms. So how do we get from tapestries and beer bottles to tiny mansions? It is over the top. We need to know how this happened. We need to know why this happened. We need to know the dirty, dirty details. So, Daisy, Joan, what do you think about what is going on? I don't know, Daisy, you're closer to this maybe than Joan and I are.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Was this going on when you were back in a dorm? I feel like it definitely was. I don't know if there were like interior designers doing it, but like some girls on my floor, they're like everything was like totally decked out. Like their pillows had like their initials on it. Like and I remember I just got to college and we had like a bed spread and they brought all my clothes. And then we went after we saw my dorm room,
Starting point is 00:03:23 then me and my parents went and like looked around and me and my roommate like color like coated it. but we didn't go like super all out. Like I think our dorm room was still really cute, but it wasn't like anything like super crazy. I mean, that was definitely, Joan, what was your experience? That was not mine. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I want to do over, first of all, because I showed up with my comforter and all my clothes. I didn't know my roommate. Like you, we may have had like one chat on the phone. It's not like now where you just link up on social media and it's so easy to get to know each other. And actually each other's style, really, because you can see from their Instagram,
Starting point is 00:03:57 like what kind of person they are, or if they're going to match your style. Like, I remember I just showed up with like bare minimum, but I'm also thinking about my daughters. I moved two daughters and two sons into dorms. And I mean, you know, they're in their 30s. So that wasn't that that long ago. And it wasn't this big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It was bigger, but not this big. When I moved in, my first school was Boston University then I transferred to UT. I don't think my parents even slowed down when they threw me out of that car. I don't remember setting shit up. I don't remember like, so I when I, I did it for Rachel. I don't know that we hired an interior designer.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It was right after COVID, so she was able to get our own room. But I remember doing, they had that wall, they just got in that wallpaper, that peel and stick. And I'm like, so wait, you want me to put wallpaper
Starting point is 00:04:43 up on these bricks? And I was, okay, whatever. Yeah, I didn't do best I could. I don't, her room was adorable. It did not look like what we are seeing now, though. Oh my gosh, I was never interested in that,
Starting point is 00:04:57 putting wallpaper over the bricks. It's a great idea. I know, I know. It was big. Well, we have our first guest here, you guys. And I'm very excited to talk to her. So let us please bring in Amy Joyce. I can already tell you're just so stylish.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, I was thinking that too, Dizzy. We are literally in the middle of Mexico. So getting Wi-Fi is just, it's a whole, you know. So, yeah, how are you? We're well. Thank you so much for joining us. Yeah, you must be on vacation. Thank you for being.
Starting point is 00:05:29 here? Well, I come here to Source for the business. Oh. There are some incredible like artists and artisans and just all sorts of things. Amy, I'm sorry. I'm going to interrupt. You come to, you go to Mexico to Source for dorm rooms. No, so I am my, Amy Joyce designs is a full service interior design firm. So that is like I, we specialize in luxury remodels, new construction. You know, Yes, so I source for all sorts of, you know, projects obviously that we have going on. And this particular dorm room, obviously, was, it was a whole thing. It was amazing. It was one of the, it was kind of honestly like a one-off project.
Starting point is 00:06:17 The client that asked me to do it, their daughter was going off to school. It's their first child to leave the house. She actually has impeccable taste, the mom. And she pretty much just called me. and she was like, I can't handle this. Like, I need you to come up with the design, implement, bring your team to install, do all the things. So it was a start to finish.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It was somewhat fast and furious. We started on this about five and a half weeks before we actually installed, which is kind of everything in that room was completely custom. Was this the first time that you did this? That was the first time I had done it. I had been pushing the dorm design. for a few months. I knew also that I was going to be very intentional with the projects that I took on.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Truthfully, a lot of people just don't know what this, you know, cost. I want to make sure it's on brand. For me, this was just a lot of fun because they clearly love color and pattern. And their daughter was just, I mean, she had, you know, some influence. So to me, my gift is being able to spend time with the client. and really being able to kind of pull some things, right? Like just as a designer, when I'm meeting someone in their home and asking the questions and I can see how their space operates, you know, do they have children, pets, you know, all the
Starting point is 00:07:43 things. And with this, it was a little bit different because I didn't have any of that. So everything was pretty much virtual. I mean, I didn't even actually meet this lady until we installed the day. She. Right. Now, we have mutual friends. And she knows some of my other clients.
Starting point is 00:07:58 you know, that we've worked with. But she just, it's so much about trust and just, you know, for me, like the design and the execution of the design, but also getting people to understand just visually. You know, we create like design boards where we're very specific. This is what's going here. We do AutoCad renderings. Oh, my God. Amy, does any of this seem, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but does any of this seem for a dorm room
Starting point is 00:08:26 for you as the designer? Does it feel a little over the top? I don't know if you have, if you went, you were ever in a dorm, if you went to a school where you did any of this, clearly you have the taste for it, but does any of this feel to you? And someone calls you and says, listen, design it. Do CAD, whatever it's called, you just said,
Starting point is 00:08:44 install it, custom it. Like, are you like, what are you talking about it? Probably not because I'm very much a maximalist anyway. So, and truthfully, you know, I've been in this industry for 13 years. So the projects that have come my way, it's sometimes it's like, well, you know, my girls were with me. I had two daughters and they both were like, is this what our dorm is going to look like? Oh, lucky girls. I bet.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. I looked, I did a little research on this and I found out that it's a $14 billion a year industry. So, you know, people are spending money on this. But normally it's dorm, I would think more of it is dormify than hiring. an actual decorator to be custom. I mean, it seems extravagant to me. And I honestly, it's so you did an unbelievable job, but I don't know how popular it's becoming to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And did it seem at first crazy to you at all? Just to get the dorm room. I don't mean decorating, no? No, I think the part that was a little bit overwhelming was that I was never able to get into that space before it's all. So I'm relying on college kids that are running. this off-campus storm situation to get me measurements. My client never even saw the space before we installed.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So there were a lot of, I mean, we had to do some kind of deep guiding. We found some parents that had the exact layout and I was able to reach out to people and say, could you send me some pictures? Like, you know, I mean, I've been doing this long enough that I know, you know, standard sizes for doors and windows. And so we're able to come up, you know, with a lot of the measurements. but it was that that part was probably the most frustrating. And then the day of the install,
Starting point is 00:10:33 because she was on the 17th floor. So it was the penthouse of the dorm. And we were only to go up the elevator. They would not allow us to go back down. So I not only, because I live in Dallas. And this project was in Austin. I not only had my wallpaper installers there, my moving company that had come to pick everything up,
Starting point is 00:10:55 you know, because we had, when you look at that space, the headboard was custom, the huts, the, all of it, right? So it's coming to me. I had to have people come pick it up, bring it, you know, to the university. I had mine star who hangs things. And I mean, that part was very chaotic. I mean, I'm sure for you it was really fun. I'm trying to picture saying to my daughter, okay, we're going to hire a decorator. I mean, I just, that part for you, and obviously you were, you were a master at it, but was it, was it, was Is it UT this school? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Yeah, so I graduated from Texas. I promise you, my friend, this is the nicest dorm room. Anyone at the University of Texas has ever had. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode eight before you're done slicing the cucumbers?
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Starting point is 00:15:06 I hope you listen to Solita on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm really, like, so shocked by that you actually wallpapered the walls because that's such a, like, I mean, that's, first of all, there's Cinderblock, I'm assuming, because at least that's what they used to be when I was in college. and I'm wondering, like, that is a huge job. And I look at, like, some of the stuff you did, and she can take this to her next place that she lives. She can take that headboard and the chair that match and, like, the curtains. But she can't take, she can't take that hutch.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You're not going to have the same size desk. You're not taking the wallpaper. So this is, like, a huge expense of only certain things that can be reused. I mean, that just sounds like so excessive to me. I can't imagine. I would have loved to have done that for my daughter, but I'm not sure if I would have. Yeah, I think too, one thing, just what I've seen, the feedback, you know, from even just
Starting point is 00:16:09 the posting of this project, right? And, you know, there are some people, you know, that feel that way, but there are also a lot of people that, you know, and this family is incredible. There was one moment in the day when we were installing and they, the dad was there and he was like, hey, let's have a family hug, like, because both siblings were there for her. And I just kind of stood there and I was like, you know, they have the means in this family. It is important to them that their daughter feels. And literally is an extension of their home.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Because if you saw their home, I mean, it's so similar to, you know, what we were able to do in the space. Yeah, you know, it might not be for everyone. But at the same time, like, I know for me as a designer, my spaces are not for everyone. These services are not, you know, for everyone. I think there's ways, you know, to kind of give people, you know, tricks and trades. Even with the wallpaper, it was peeling stick. I told them about that. I did that for my daughters.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It did not look like that. It was one little wall. And then I told you to leave me alone. I was leaving. I'll see you at Thanksgiving. I love that. I bet you got a lot of business from this, my friend. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, too.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Left and right. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, again, I think for me, it's like really kind of getting into, you know, who the client is. And I mean, this girl is, she's so sweet. And it's a three bedroom. So she had two other roommates that were. And they were, you know, excited for her.
Starting point is 00:17:35 We even got to do some extension, like in the living room. And, you know, we hung art. We had all sorts of fun accessories. I love to customize anything. So I paint. I brought all sorts of customized, you know, things just specific, you know, for her, you know, like knowing what she is, what she likes, you know, all the things. So, yeah, it was definitely.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I just keep thinking like fast and furious. This is her freshman year? Yeah, it's her freshman year. Yeah. Do you have a roommate? And was her roommates like side like decorated too? So she doesn't have a roommate in her actual room. There's three other, like there's three bedrooms total.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's kind of cool. I actually left there. And it's so great for me having my kids there watching this too because one, we're doing problem solving and, you know, they love being around these college girls. But the roommates were like so happy for her. and just like excited like this is such a cool you know space i mean their spaces were great you know um but obviously we went over the top yeah good for her i have a question though do do you ever see
Starting point is 00:18:39 the boys rooms getting decorated really nice like i had two sons who went to college i also had two daughters the daughters rooms were always really pretty you know but we i feel like the guys are being left out here. No way. My son would be like, get was like, thanks mom, see ya. Oh, yeah. I feel like they would want a sofa or, you know, something comfort, some comfort from home. That have reached out because we've had so much response. So I basically, you know, I did like a comment dorm and you'll get on my dorm list or whatever. And a lot of them are moms of sons. And, you know, they do. But I mean, yeah, I get it. We're, we may not, you know, do as much. much or, you know, but no, I mean, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I do male, you know, more masculine space all the time. I don't know if a college age, you know, freshman is going to want, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:31 a girl coming in, you know, to do his face, but I'm totally, you know, um, I mean, that's the thing with this business for me. And I knew when we were doing this project, I was like, I want this to look different than any other dorm room that I've seen. It was, truthfully, it was intimate. It was intimidating to me. just because I knew I could do it. I knew my team would execute and all those things. But the troll side of me of like how what I went into that project on that Saturday because we did all this in one day. We got there at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And we looked at 9.30. And I had three options for everything because I was like, what if this doesn't fit? What if this? Truthfully, she was supposed to have a whole different layout. And the very last minute, she got switched to the ADA room, which cuts off almost half of the space. So I was adjusting everything. I'm like, these people just paid me to have all these things made custom. We got to figure out a way to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Wow. I mean, you definitely did your job and then some. It's a lot. But, I mean, just seeing like her excitement and truly just seeing the, you know, excitement from the engagement, you know, on social. And I mean, I know it's not for everybody. loved it and I walked away from so proud. I was like, that is. I bet you did. Like I would live in the I would too. I would live there. Yeah, I think it's nicer than my house. Yeah, me too. Amy,
Starting point is 00:20:59 thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you. Please enjoy Mexico. Thank you. I'll have a great day. You too. Behind every night spent making the kids lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full or come home at all. And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers? Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with Craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.ca for details and to check availability.
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Starting point is 00:22:11 I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If your bookshelf and your for-you page are equally important to your personality,
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Starting point is 00:24:01 asking anyone else first. I'm on a mission to reclaim the word solita, trading the pity for possibility. Every time I tried to be alone, I kept meeting people and they were like, you smiled at us. Not a lot of people smile around here. It's when you're alone that you're most. receptive to the world as it is and not the lies you're sold about it. It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the
Starting point is 00:24:37 IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so we're going to bring in Riley and she is in her college girl era and we're going to talk to her all about her dorm room. So let's bring Riley in. Hi. Thank you for joining us. Yes. Thank you guys so much for having me. Of course. So you lived in the sorority house last year, right? Yes, my sophomore year. So I lived in the Zeta house and it was just, it was perfect. But yes. It looks perfect. We have some pictures here, Riley. I mean, seriously, I don't know that I ever had a room that looks that looked that good. And I'm 58 and I'm just in a new house. I'm just in a new house. Nope. I don't think I'm going to get this effect.
Starting point is 00:25:30 That's funny you say that. My dad said the same thing. He's like, why does my room not look this nice? You're living in a dorm and your room is like nicer than mine. He was just like, we put him to work. Riley, I mean, you have a sconce lighting up a picture above your, you have a light like reflecting. So you could really see this Monet-ish. I don't know what's going on with this small print you have by your bed. and you have sconces, light up sconces. Sconses. Yes. No, I was definitely very into designing my dorm room.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And luckily, I have like an angel roommate who she was like, yeah, do whatever you want, like pick. And I was like, I told her, I was like, okay, I ordered us some sconces. She's like, what's a sconce? And I was like, literally would not know. But Joan was telling me about it before. And then I was like, oh, that is. I know that they're big now and they add like such a like sophisticated air to a dorm room. I mean, we didn't have sconces.
Starting point is 00:26:35 We didn't have sofas. Like our dorm rooms were about studying. I feel like that's not true anymore. But this is your sorority house. This is right? So this is the room. Okay. And you mentioned that your roommate was an angel and let you, in my mind, in this scenario,
Starting point is 00:26:54 you are definitely the angel. Like if I'm that, if I'm your mom, I'm like, we score. Oh my gosh. So sweet. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:04 I just, I love that stuff. I love designing things. Like, I just feel like I love when it all comes together. Like, that's like my favorite part about moving into any new room. Because I've had to move every year,
Starting point is 00:27:17 freshman year we were in like the standard dorms. And the top of the year, we're in the house. And then this year I'm off campus. So it's a little bit different at TCU because our dorms are actually on campus. So we have something called Greek Village. So all of our sorority houses, they're all on campus right next to the sophomore dorm. So you're required to live on campus two years.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So it's really fun because you're by all of the sophomores, regardless of if you live in the house or not. So that was really fun. Did you do this all by yourself? Like, did you style the room all by yourself? Yes. I just like kept finding. things and then put it all together and it worked. I'm hoping you're an interior design major.
Starting point is 00:27:58 So I was going to ask, have you thought about like being an interior design major? You obviously have a talent for it and you love it. Yes, I definitely love it. I'm not. I wish I was because our program at our school is just amazing. I'm actually finance and fashion merchandising major. Oh, so cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You get a job when you're out. I'm an interior designer, so it's a super fun career, but I mean, you're going to make a lot more money. probably being a finance major. You get money. How much did all this cost you? Honestly, I was able to do it pretty affordable. I had a lot of great home goods and Amazon fines. So it wasn't like crazy. And I found like the sofa at Target on sale.
Starting point is 00:28:44 So it wasn't like absurd. I feel like recently there's been so much about like hiring interior designers for dorms and it being just like absurdly expensive. And so I feel like being able to see that you can do it kind of on a budget and not spend like tens of thousands of dollars. But it's just looking a lot and like really trying to find those deals because that's kind of the hard part because I'll see something and it's so expensive. And then it's like, okay, wait, I could find something maybe a little bit more affordable
Starting point is 00:29:18 and get the same vibe across. Joan, do you find, because you're her designer, like, now everything is about restoration hardware dupes, and you could find them on Amazon. Don't room, right? Like, you could just, it would be fun almost, I would go up on AI and say, I want my door to look. Like, it costs $50,000 to decorate all dupes of whatever. Same thing, and they have some net and really dupes that are so good. And I feel like that's like a really popular aesthetic now.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I have a question for you, though. So I know you do this because you want your dorm room to feel homey, and I love that. And I wish I had like that was like a thing when my kids were going to school because I felt like I left them. And they didn't really have the comforts of home. They had like a bedst where they picked out and their clothes. And I, you know, I love that you do this. But I wonder is some of this about Instagram and about the social media and the competition
Starting point is 00:30:08 that I kind of feel like everybody's. Now, I love seeing them pop up on my phone and I love looking at them. But I feel like, boy, that's a lot of pressure. For sure. I feel like it's kind of created this unnecessary pressure when it's like if you're doing it for the wrong reasons, it can totally feel like that. And I mean, I love to make like TikTok day in the life videos and stuff. So like and I also love hosting people. So I feel like for me, it was like I, my environment impacts me a lot. So I, if my space looks like exactly how I want it to, like I just feel very calm and like just, I. I just, I. I just feel a lot more settled. So that's kind of how I thought about it. But I do think, especially with, like, actually hiring an interior designer, like, that has just changed the game. And I feel like it has created an added pressure just for girls coming into school, especially
Starting point is 00:31:03 freshman year. Like, you want to, like, fit in and make it work and stuff. But I do think it really can create a necessary pressure. I agree. And I think, Joan, I don't know if you felt like this, I did for as a, as a, as a, mom because all the moms also post the dormant right on social media after your your kid moves in and it's you know you have to show your work it's basically to you know to your social media following and so I am not creative I am not at all I don't know I'm not good with interior
Starting point is 00:31:36 design I remember feeling that pressure which is why I was peeling off wallpaper and putting it onto bricks but you know it's crazy yeah yeah yeah no I I I don't know I I definitely felt it too. But, you know, like I said, it wasn't really to this degree at all when either one of my daughters were going to school. They're in their 30s now. And it was kind of just starting up. I feel like at that time. And so if you did anything extra, you kind of got like a little applause. Now it's like way beyond. And I feel like a lot of people are spending a lot of money. I know like a lot of people are doing it on a budget. But I think the people that don't have budgets, it's putting a lot of pressure on everybody else. I almost feel bad for the other girls who are
Starting point is 00:32:16 you know, moving into the dorm, especially as freshmen, like I, like I love everything I brought. And then they see the one next door with the wallpaper and the curtains and the vanities. And I feel a little bad for them. Yeah, me too. Well, okay. So, Riley, we are so impressed. Your room is just gorgeous. You are just gorgeous.
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