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Episode Date: May 30, 2026

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Welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. This is Joan Vassos, and you can't believe where we are right now. We are in a sprinter van on our way back from an entire day of Bottle Rock. rock drinking and partying and listen to great music and eating great food. But we all have had a couple of cocktails and we thought this would be a great time. So today we're taking over the pod and answering your most pressing questions about sorority life. So let's get started. Okay, girls, you ready? Yes. Okay. I have how many sorority girls we have. We have seven of us here. Okay, so we should get some good answers to these. And this first one is when I feel like everybody's maybe going to say yes to you. Did anyone ever hook up with a sorority sister's

boyfriend? Okay. No, Sally. Oh, did you say yes? Well, like, Maddie. Oh no, I thought everyone was gonna say yes. I was like, yeah. I learned you into that, I'm afraid. Hey, hey, okay, tell us. They were just talking and I didn't realize

that like they had been before. They stopped talking and then, you know, you just meet someone at a bar and you're like... And you didn't know they had been... Oh, wait. There were some already sisters that we didn't know. know well they would have been in your sorority yeah when it's kind of like you don't know everybody in your sorority right exactly it's so big I definitely have I

definitely have thanks Sally thank you thank you not alone please let me be alone yes right like no you were close to no yeah yeah and you're super close to yeah yeah you know no no no no you girls okay third row back here word rose here loyal to my sisters yeah all of them it's fine Sally, we're in this together. I definitely dated. I dated someone who, a guy that the president of the sorority had broken up with.

But she had broken up with him. I think he was still off limits, though, but I still did. During Rush, I got dropped from my top sorority because I was hooking up with a man. Like a senior's ex. Okay. That would do it. Not technically, but not. No, but you ended up not being in that sorority anyway.

Yeah, you didn't need them. I lost it. I was tried out. Oh. I'm a tried out. Girlie. Sally, what were you in? Okay, you're a kitty.

Where'd you go? Alabama and then South Carolina. Okay, good. Southern Girl, big sorority territory down there. Big sorority. Did anyone in your chapter ever get arrested? Oh, God. Yeah, me.

No, no. Tell us what happened. Oh, my God, it was on bid day. What? No. Bid day. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

What happened? This was horrible. I'm so glad you're here. by the way. I got so drunk on bed day to where people were just like riding Katie all over my arms. We were excited. It was like a fun thing. Right.

And this call came up to me and he was like, you can't walk a straight line. And I was like walking into Tettweiler, like the dorm. Yeah. And I was like, yes, I can. I was yelling at him. Oh. I could not walk a straight line. But when I went to, you know,

plead my case the next week. They were like, there was something interesting about your case. I was like, what was that? And they were like, you had Sharpie all over you. Oh, just capa delta, like in all caps. Like, I was like, I let them do that. Like, I wasn't like passed out making them, yeah, but anyway. It was, they arrested me and for just being drunk in public or something.

Yes. Okay. Okay. But you didn't get kicked out. No. No, this is a party girl. We need her. It was the, just.

She's going to be fun. Hey, the older girls did it to me. They were the ones they were like, hey, ride all over. I'm not sure with friends like that. Who needs enemies? That's a big one. I ended up transferring, so. Okay, any of you girls?

No, any arrests? Nope. Okay, okay. Also, MIPs. What's that? Minor in possession. Oh. Oh, yeah, tons.

Seriously? What? So just possession of alcohol or drugs? Lots of MIP? so it's just just alcohol in my case so that's like they don't arrest you just they just give you like they just give you a little ticket like yeah like a warning yeah okay and if you get a lot of them then I think you get a fine actually too okay yeah all right all right all right oh in community service that's right yeah you're not admitting to that one huh okay okay this is a good one I there was one in my in my house

was there ever a pregnancy scare that shook the whole house We had one. We had one. And she was pregnant. And she had the baby. And it was the senior year. I'm not going to say her name. I remember really, really well.

And she came from a super religious family and, like, big Catholics. And the father was a lawyer and the brother was in law school. And she was supposed to go to law school next. And then she got pregnant. She had the baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, kept the baby. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think she moved to California. So she could be. She could have been at Bottle Rock today. She was a party girl. So maybe. How about you guys ever pregnant? Because I got to imagine somebody's.

I feel like there were a lot of rumors. Yeah. They would always be, oh, these people are so serious. And like, this girl took a pregnancy test. She's pregnant. But it was never true. Probably found him like in the bathroom, like in the trash game. Totally. Yes. A lot of talk.

But no babies. Okay. Let's go down. We have a lot of questions here. Oh, did anyone ever, did you ever black out at a sisterhood event? But I mean, Sally might be a yes to this one. Every sister, we're saying. Are you kidding me? Oh, my gosh.

I feel like that's a given. It was Halloween. Uh-huh. And I was a freshman. I got so drunk that one of my sorority sisters was holding me up. This is so embarrassing. She was holding me up and I was like, I'm literally going to pee in my pants. And they were like, no, like it's fine.

And I was blacked out, started peeing. No. It got on her. Oh. And I was like. It was the next day, I've never been more mortified. I can imagine you were the subject of a lot of conversations that morning. I was too much, I was so blacked out.

I was just like, I peed on her. Everybody's like when she's really drunk, stay away. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, I was in a body suit. And I was trying to tell them. People don't understand that. So, yeah, that was. Body suits are very difficult, especially when you're drunk,

because you can't get them snap back up. I know. It's not good. She was holding me up. I was like you were right there. That was probably a good lesson, though. Not to wear our body suit. Exactly.

Susan said, pull it to the side. That's what I do. It's so true. I wore one yesterday to this event, and I had to pull it to the side. Yeah. Yeah. I'm meeting my front yard. You guys ever blackouted out of a sisterhood?

My fellow DGs right back here were good girls. Well, pretty much every single sorority held event with alcohol, we don't do well at. I know. I've been showered by a fellow sister. No. Yes. What do you mean? Showered, like pee.

No, no. Like on purpose? No, no, like post throwing out of the window of an Uber and like on myself and in the shower just like middle of the hallway, strip it down, get in the shower, and she just like kind of hoses you off. Oh. She came in a pee on you. No, there was no pee in a lot that I remember.

Wasn't warm water at least? She beat on you? No, unfortunately there was no pee this time. She threw up on her. No. she just like put me in the shower and really hosed me down but what's a sister for you know exactly you can't go to bed all dirty yeah it's better it has a golden shower a little shower no no definitely not a golden shower but we had that happen too I was concerned

okay I feel like this is a movie thing but did anyone ever hook up with a professor and tell people about it I feel like that only happens in movies no but TAs people hook up with TAs oh okay well I did actually yeah like grad student TAs or even under a TAA they're young they're like what if you take the second part of that out wait what oh you didn't tell anybody Sally you are the winner Sally girl tell me tell you all know I tell everything I've never hooked up with a fucking professor no you did not okay okay I didn't do it I was excited I was so ready in fact if you made it up we would all believe you

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Was there ever a threesome situation that made things awkward in the house? I just want to say was there ever a threesome situation? In general? Yeah, just in general. Is this only limited to sororities? I was gonna ask the same. So I'm with you on that one. So I was in a sorority, but I lived in an apartment

for a bunch of semesters. And I remember coming home late one night and I shared a bedroom with another girl. It was four of us living in a two bedroom place. And I came home and a guy walks out then my roommate and another girl walk out. And I was like, oh. Yeah, and she was like, and she could like hardly look at me in the eyes for like two weeks.

So we all knew what had happened there. Wow. It was weird. Yeah. That was uncomfortable. Okay. Did anyone ever hook up with someone at a date function and immediately regret it? Like all of us probably.

Yes, all of the above? Anybody? A thousand percent, yes. Yeah. I feel like that's just a given in sorority life. I'll tell you guys. If you're blocking out every sisterhood event, and there's a boy there. And there's a boy.

There's kisses happening. I know. Oh, yeah. I hooked up with the mascot of our school. Did he have the costume on? It was Wolfe. Oh, my God. No, he did not have the costume on.

Ew. It was so weird. I know. God. You should tell him they had the costume on. Oh, my God. That would be like a furry. That would be a furry.

situation yeah I did hook up with the mascot of our school where did you go I went to a university of Nevada Reno oh yeah that's incredible oh my god no I won't tell them what you hear it was horrible yeah no zero out of ten would recommend I just if I could hook up with cocky I can get down with cocky let me tell you something I don't know if it's a girl or guy but I can get down with khaki Yep, that's Wolfie. That's Wolfie. Let me see Wolfie.

Wolfie. Oh, he's kind of cute. He was in a fraternity. Okay. But yeah, he was also the mascot. He's probably doing cartwheels the next day. So y'all know. Y'all know who the mascot is during school?

Yeah, we knew. Yeah, yeah, we know who. Oh, is it a secret at your school? At South Carolina, no one knows who cocky is until graduation. They walk across the stage with their cocky. feet on. Oh no. That is so good. It's electric like insane. That is so good. And they finally get to admit their like identity and everyone's like. Oh my God. It's amazing. Oh that's amazing. I can't believe they keep it a secret. Like that is really hard. Yeah. I could never do it. Because they're like every

event. Yes. That's crazy. I love that. If you look it up on TikTok, the videos are amazing. I love that. I love that. Incredible. And did you know, did you ever know the person? No? And yeah, okay. No. I'm wondering. Oh, was there ever a fist fight between sisters? No, not at my house. You guys know? No. No, that's a no. That's a guy thing. That's a fraternity thing. There's a lot of hookup questions. Did anyone ever hook up with someone from a rival sororities boyfriend circle? Like, I think everybody's going to say yes to that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yeah. Yeah. Is that unanimous? Yeah. All seven of us said yes to that one. Okay. Was there, oh, was there ever a cheating scandal where two sisters were unknowingly dating the same person?

Yeah. I have that. Yeah, you didn't, because like no one was telling. No one was up. Yeah. So the guy was the only one who knew what was going on here. Yeah. I went to a school that was 70-30 ratio, 70% girls and 30% boys.

First of all, why did you go to that school? Number one. Well, there were so many other draws to it But yeah, not a lot of boys It was slim pickings And so all That's insane Of the boys just thought that they were everything and more

Because so many girls wanted that Oh, is Charleston the same ratio? Yeah Oh yeah Oh yeah, I guess I could see that Yeah, and there were so many situations Where these boys thought that they were just so awesome And they would be seeing two girls at once

And it would just become a whole nightmare Yeah Okay, so Did anyone ever pick get put on social probation for something that became a house legend. Sally, I feel like that's going to be you, girl. I know. No, no, no, actually no. No, no probation. I don't think we even had social probation. Did you guys have social probation? I don't remember that. Yeah, yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah. Like posting on social media with alcohol or whatever it may be.

Okay. Was that what you guys did? Wait, no? I don't think we got put on probation for that. I think I think that that was more like being too drunk out of formal, having alcohol on the bus, stuff like that where you'd get like more in trouble and then you couldn't go to the next formal. My stuff is like the reason I got put on probation so much is because I just didn't show up. Like to chapter and stuff. To chapter. I ended up dropping because I was like, I can't do this. This is a lot of pressure.

The fines and. So much. And did you all like keep track of points and stuff? Because we did the same thing and you got points for going to chapter and stuff. and I never had enough points. And so then you'd get put on social probation. You were a point at. How do you get negative points?

Oh, no. That's hilarious. Was there ever a drug situation that the house had to cover up? Oh, a drug situation. Okay. So, we... Drug. Drug?

Our freshman year, the president of our sorority, was selling drugs out of the president's room. No. And it was only revealed to us, we do this thing called senior spotlights, where the seniors come in for a chapter every once in a while, and their friends make a presentation about them. And it was then revealed to us that she had been helping out our school drug dealer by selling drugs out of the president's room.

And we all thought it was hilarious. Yeah. Like she, it's the most unsuspecting person you would ever meet. Yeah. But she was great. But it definitely gave everyone a really good laugh at the middle of her senior. her senior spotlight and it was great. But like the administration never found out.

No. People of authority never found out. She's also known for doing lines off of the DG yearbooks. Wow. She was a time, but she was a lot. She was a lot. Yeah. But she was the president, so she must have been very charismatic.

No, but she was like very responsible. Like I never would have. No one saw this coming. That's probably why you're a good drug dealer. Nobody suspects you. Makes you a good drug dealer. Yeah. Okay.

Did anyone ever get a DUI in a sorority car or on the way to a sisterhood event? No, no driving to sorority events. No drive. Oh, yeah. They don't let you drive. So when I was in a sorority, so I was in college in the 80s. And so we had buses that went to sorority events, but we also, you could drive. And so I was set up with a guy.

I didn't have, I was a senior and I was like over the whole thing. And my boyfriend had graduated. So I just went to the sorority event to our like, I don't know, spring fling thingy with this guy. who was in the secret service of the, like, so I live in D.C. So he was, he guarded the Capitol. And he was really cute. His name was Ron, I think, and I got set up with him by my little sister in the sorority. And we went, like the four of us went in a car together, but they left and he, I don't know,

they left with somebody else. And so he and I were driving home, and we got pulled over. And I'm being, like, such a great date. I'd already fallen asleep in the car. Did he just, like, flash his badge? No. So we get pulled. over and I wake up to flashing lights from a police car and I wake up and I'm like what's going

on and he is handcuffed in the back of the car as a secret service agent oh I'm sure he lost his job and he was arrested and the other cop drove me home another cop came and got me I was literally passed out in the car I was drunk and he they drove me home and I never saw him again I never found out what happened yeah he was arrested and like he had a great job yeah that's crazy it was quite the blind date wasn't it quite the blind date yeah so I was like looking through my pictures the other day, I had to send pictures for a brand deal I was doing. And they wanted pictures of me when I was younger. And I found a picture of the four of us at that formal with that guy.

And I was like, oh, my God, that's the guy that got arrested. The record sold. Awards, sold out tours. You think that Jonas Brothers are satisfied? Nope. It's podcast time. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Hey, Jonas is available now.

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We'll give you both. If you stuck him in, you probably had to sneak him out too. Probably all of the above. I think sneaking in was harder than sneaking out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So one, I had graduated, and so we had, you know, we had the sorority mom lady that lived in the house, and she had to go away for a wedding.

So she said, she asked me if I would come and, like, sub in for her, like live in the house for the weekend. So I was like, sure, yeah, I'll do that. But I knew, like, everybody. And I'm like, oh, everybody's my friend. They'll all be good while they were terrible because they knew it was me. And they snuck a keg in the house. And I woke up and it was in the foyer. And I was like, what the hell?

and so and she was coming back like any minute now and I was like you have to get this out of here and you and like the house smells like beer I was like I was so stupid I fell asleep because I trusted all the girls and they were I shouldn't have trusted them my favorite story was that one of the girls in our sorority found a pile of mattresses in the fire escape and found that to be a convenient spot to leave the guy she had brought home to fall asleep that night so he passed out He passed out on the mattresses, like, obviously in the hallway to leave. And all the girls were waking up going to class, and a lot of the girls on the third floor used the fire escape as the exit to leave. Was he clothed? Yeah, he was clothed. But they wake up and there's a man passed out in their house, and no one claimed him.

So it just became this mystery of, who is this drunk man? No one claimed him. Would you guys claim him? No one claimed him is crazy. I wouldn't claim him either. I'm like, who did that? hell of that? Who left this guy? I am. I think it was

done in our group chat, like whose man is in the fire escape and it was just crickets. Yeah, that was. I think that's a good one to end on. What do you guys think? That was a great story. Okay, that's it for this episode of Dirty Rush. Make sure you follow us on Instagram and TikTok at Dirty Rush Podcasts

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