The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Finding "The One" with Maddie Poppe

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

Ashley is hanging out with one of our favorite Bachelor in Paradise success stories: Chris and Krystal! They open up about their first time in the “boom boom room” and we hear Krystal’s honest thoughts on what happened with Demi’s break up with Kristian.We revisit Bachelor history, Vienna Girardi the "winner" from Jake Pavelka’s season. She gets raw and honest about her miscarriage and has some amazing advice to anyone that has struggled with infertility.And we talk to American Idol winner Maddie Poppe about how she knew her boyfriend Caleb was “the one” and what it was like dating while on Idol. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcasts with IHeart Radio. Hey, guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It is Ashley Solo. Ben left Napa yesterday, and I arrived in Napa yesterday. We are doing this live from the Canorrios Resort. It is stunning here. It is like a little HGTV village. It's amazing.

Every house that you've ever wanted on HGTV, it's here in this little village, and you can come and stay at it whenever you are in the Napa area. We are a Napa for Live in the Vineyard, the music festival. Avrilavine's here, Kelsey Bellarini, Marin Morris, Adam Lambert, which is probably my favorite in that rundown,

and many more. So I hope to catch him while we're here. And later, we've, will be interviewing Maddie Poppy. She's the winner of American Idol 2018 and she's here performing at the festival. She met her boyfriend on TV. So I think we can relate over that. We also have a couple other great guests. We have Vienna Girardi. She's going to talk about her recent plastic surgery that we discussed a couple weeks ago. Then we're going to have Joe and Kendall on. We're going to talk about their living situation now that they are. We're

are living together as a couple of a year and a half. We are also going to have Crystal stopped by to talk about Demi and Christians' breakup. They were at their wedding, so I'd like to see if they saw some of their chemistry or how they felt about this quick Bachelor in Paradise breakup. All right, guys, well, we are going to take a quick break before we get Vienna on the line. And I think we're going to get a little bit of an emotional interview out of her. So stay tuned. okay guys i have got vienna gerardi on the line welcome to the almost famous podcast vienna you it's the first time

you've ever been on well thank you for having me thank you so much so tell us a little bit about your life right now post bachelor it's been man it's it been almost a decade since almost a decade it does not seem like it's been that long wow that is mind blowing um do you still see the effects of the bachelor on your life today do you do people still come up to you not as often as they used to but it still does happen i i you know on Halloween i was like dressed up with a wig and i still had people recognizing me so i guess my my smile kind of gives me away has it affected your life overall like the way that some things will always get press and maybe you're dating life?

You know, the first few years after the Bachelor were really difficult because it kind of affected everything, friendships, dating, even your career. I mean, it's hard. People don't really take you too seriously when you're a reality star. So it took me a good five years after the Bachelor to kind of see a change in that. It still affects it to an extent, but not as bad as it used to. When it comes to dating, yeah, it was difficult because you never knew if people were really dating you for the right reasons or not. I'm saying with friends.

Luckily, you know, it's been 10 years, so I have a, you know, my boyfriend I've been together for two and a half years. We plan on getting married and having, you know, a couple babies. So love life-wise, it's going really good. Friendship-wise, I have a really, really good. great circle of women in my life now, which was hard to come by. So that is something I just, I hold very dearly as those friendships I have now. And work-wise, I have my own recruiting company, which is a change of pace. I started about a year ago. And I'm also doing real estate. Awesome. So yeah, my real estate company is actually, will you accept this home?

Oh my goodness. That is amazing. Where can people? We'll check you out if they're looking for real estate in what area. Yeah, it's at www. Acceptthishome.com. I used to have a billboard up in Orlando and it was me holding a rose. And it said, you know, accept this home and it had like the rose was kind of almost like the Disney one and it was kind of building a house. So it was pretty, pretty catchy.

Genius marketing. That is amazing. All right. So it seems like everything has kind of come together in your life, which is I'm very happy for you, especially since there was. some rough years over there, but I want to know, would you ever do reality TV again? You went back and you did Bachelor Pad with your ex. So, I mean, you're a risk taker in that department. Yeah, you know, I'm not too big of a risk taker anymore. You know, it's been

many years since I've done anything on television, you know, related to, you know, reality TV stuff. I think the probably one of the only shows I would. even consider doing would be um my boyfriend and i were talking about this the other day he actually used to do a professional basketball player so he's like really athletic um the not survivor what's the one amazing race i would do amazing race i think that that is a really cool show i really am into it i don't even know if it's still on um and dancing with the stars i you know i wanted to do dance with stars always um i did get a chance to dance on it which it's really fun um but to be able to compete on it and dance I think that would be probably the only two things I would consider.

I'm a competitive person, so I need to be on something where I'm going to work towards winning something, and I don't want to win a guy. I kind of lost in that department last time. Well, you won, but you also lost. I didn't feel like I'm a real winner, though. Yeah, I don't think you were. So you have a new boyfriend. Can you tell us a little about him, how long you've been together, how you met?

Yeah, we've been together for two and a half years. We actually celebrated our tier anniversary. We went on a trip to Europe for three weeks, which was, I'd never been. So he took me to my, you know, where my grandparents are from. We visited his grandparents in Bosnia, which is where he's from. It was, we went to Paris. It was just, it couldn't have been more perfect. We met, though, through mutual friends.

We were, you know, at a birthday party and kind of, you know, looking at each other across the, it was a late party. and we were kind of looking at each other and caught my eye and a friend of ours kind of saw us looking at each other and she introduced us and said actually you two would be perfect together and she was right you know we've been together ever since I remember going home that night and I called my mom I said mom I met the man I'm going to marry and she's like what and I was like yes I met him today and he is perfect oh I love those stories those are the best he's my ying to my gang I'm you know, loud and I'm super fun and I love to be around people and he's, you know, calm and

he keeps me level-headed and he, you know, he doesn't fuel my crazy when I'm crazy. We just, we balance each other so, so well. It's really, really nice. That's so nice. You guys were talking about having kids in the future and you were very open a couple years ago and you had a miscarriage of twins, they had twin transfusion, twin transfusion syndrome, which is when, can you explain that a little bit to our audience? Yeah, so there's a couple different types of twins. There's twins that have their own amniotic sac and have their own placenta, right? And the placenta is actually what feeds them as baby. That's where the nutrients comes from. There's twins that share an amniotic sack and share a placenta. Then there's twins that

have their own amniotic sac, but share a placenta. So that's what I had. So my girls were in their own separate bags, right? But they shared a placenta. And sometimes what happens is kind of explain that so people can understand is think of like a vein going from the placenta to the baby, right? And that's providing nutrients to each of them. They each other own. One baby grew a much larger vein. So it was taking a lot more of the nutrients than the other twin was. So what happens is that twin now grows a lot faster and bigger, and the other one doesn't get as much nutrients and doesn't grow like it should grow.

So what happened was because the other twin grew so much bigger, so much faster than the other one, my water actually broke at five months early. So I went into labor, and unfortunately they weren't old enough to breathe. So they were fully developed, and if they were born four weeks earlier, they could have survived it's it's still to this day i did four weeks later four weeks is all they

needed to be no it was four weeks older yeah oh my gosh yeah it was a really traumatic thing i had to um i had to deliver one and then i had dc like they go in and they had to remove the other twin um and i started going into septic shock um after my water had broken i i refused to let them go because they saw it, so about two days into it, they said, you know, there, there's no heartbeats. So we have to, you know, you have to give birth to one of these babies, or we have to go in and remove because you're going to get really sick. And I ended up getting really sick. My fever went up to like 104 and just kept going. So I remember just like shaking. My whole body was just shaking and the nurses were literally just like throwing ice on me like bags of ice.

And I actually donated both my girls to research to help, you know, other mothers and them to learn, you know, why this happens. And so, yeah, it's taken me a few years to kind of accept it. I think it's the hardest thing is accepting it. And recently we had fertility testing done. um to see if i would be able to have you know babies again uh and as of a week ago all my stuff came back normal yeah congrats really really good news yeah so happy for you yeah so uh yeah so uh yeah so i think we're gonna start trying because you know i want two or three and i want them now

yeah awesome um well recently you had uh you're pretty open about the plastic surgery that you had it was a tummy tuck right no i had a body well you know what's funny is i read the us weekly and how completely incorrect it was okay um i had one procedure done actually and what was that not 10 uh what i did was it's called body scope body sculpting where basically they go and they make these little tiny incisions. Literally the incision is the size of your pinky nail, like the tip of your pinky nails, how little the incision is. And they go in and they basically just do a really small amount of lipo.

So I had kind of like a pregnancy pouch on my lower stomach. Yeah. So they went in there and they removed that, you know, fat that I had gained. And then, you know, they did a little bit on my arms, the back of my arms and the center of my legs and behind my legs kind of just make me look. look like I did before because during my pregnancy, I was having a really hard time eating. I was throwing up a lot. So the doctors literally were like, just eat.

Eat whatever you want. Just eat. So I got into a, you know, diet where I'd eat breakfast every morning and I would snack and then I had lunch, then another snack, and then dinner, and then I'd wake up in the middle of the night and have peanut butter and jelly sandwich and Oreo. Hey, this sounds like a dream. So I started gaining weight, which was good. That's what I needed to.

But then, you know, after my miscarriage, my body. was kind of still on that diet so I kept still eating that way and then you know for the first year after that I was really really depressed and I didn't want to work out I didn't want to go out I just didn't want to do anything like I just wanted to be this homebody I didn't want to be around people it was really hard for me so then I just kind of kept gaining weight I got up to like 150 pounds and just so you know on the show I was 120 pounds yeah barely yeah I know when people see me you know before the pregnancy everyone's like wow you're so tiny in person I was I was like, I know. TV really does make us a lot bigger than we are.

Yeah. So I just wanted that little bit of weight, you know, taken off just so I kind of could look in the mirror and not feel that loss anymore. It's really hard because every single day I would get up and I would, you know, get ready and I would look at myself. And every time I looked at my body, I thought I would think of my girls. And it just became this just pain every single day. And I needed to not feel that anymore.

So I can recover and I can move past it. And so that's where we are. Now, you have, you obviously were kind of, I don't want to say force to be honest about the miscarriage, but since you did deliver them at five months and you had already announced that you're pregnant, you had to be honest with the following about it. But there's a lot of taboo. I did a whole, I have another podcast called I Don't Get It, and we did a whole I don't get miscarriages.

and all the taboos that come along with it and kind of how women just feel shamed that you know you can't even announce your pregnancy until three months because of a risk that may you know fall apart is there anything that you want to share with our audience about just women and how frequent miscarriages are and how they should be able to just talk freely about it because so many women go through it. I think it's one in 10, what is it, one in five women will experience it or something like that? Something pretty close to that. I think the crazy number is one in five pregnancies and in miscarriages actually. Oh, that's it. That was the set out. So one of a five pregnancies will end in a miscarriage. Most miscarriages do happen within the first, first month,

their first three months usually. To have a miscarriage five plus months is pretty rare. And you kind of see those in very rare situations, kind of, you know, with twins, especially. I knew I was a high-risk pregnancy. But it is a taboo. And you don't hear people talk about it. Women do feel ashamed of it, which they shouldn't. It's not their fault.

And I think that was one of the main reasons why I wanted to open up and talk about it is because when it happened to me, I felt so alone. I felt ashamed. I felt alone. I'm so aren't. I didn't know what to do. And it wasn't until it happened that my mom started opening up about her miscarriages. And, you know, I was an, I was a rainbow baby for my mom. My sister was a rainbow baby. So my mom had actually had a miscarriage before me, several after me. But you didn't know. I, you know, I knew she had had a miscarriage. I didn't know to the extent of the night. I didn't know when they happened. I didn't know much about it, you know, because she just didn't talk about it. So I learned that, you know, she had had some long miscarriages that happened months down the row when she was pregnant.

And then she had some that happened early on. But she had to experience the pain I'd gone through. And, you know, hearing her talk about it, it made me feel, it made me feel safe. I didn't feel ashamed anymore. I felt more comfortable being able to talk to her about it. And then after that, you know, there was other family members and really good friends of mine because, you know, the first couple weeks after it happened, I was in bed rest and I didn't talk about it yet. It wasn't until after, you know, that I wrote the post and announced it.

It was literally the shelves had just been posted with a magazine about my gender reveal. And I'm thinking, oh, my God. So my close friends and family knew about it and people started opening up to me and talking to me. And it blew my mind that some of my best friends, that I know everything about had never shared it with me or shared it with anybody or family members had, you know, had these miscarriages and they don't talk about it. And I, you know, I didn't understand. I said, why don't, why don't we talk about this between each other? I go, because now that we are talking about it, we all are feeling a healing. Like, we feel like we are healing finally. And I think even with my mom, you know, talking to me about it, she felt like after, you know, 30 years, she's finally now

healing. And a lot of things, especially with pain, we kind of push it down. And, you know, one thing, you know, I did talk to a therapist for a little while. And once they say is when you push those feelings down, the bad feelings, right, they actually create you suppressing good feelings. And they create this very, like, I don't know how to explain it. They just make you very numb to anything. Good, bad, doesn't matter. And you don't want that to happen. So she says, you know, the best thing to do is talk about it. It is talk about it.

I know that sounds so cliche, but it is. Talk about it. And so I knew being in the public eye, I had to let people know what's going on. You know, I remember in the hospital, or not in the hospital, when I first got out of the hospital, I was still getting text messages and messages through fans telling them congratulations. I actually came home. And I had a couple of my girlfriends who had sent me. Etsy gifts for me that I still haven't opened. I still have them. They told me when they found

about the miscarrier, they said, don't open the packages. You know, we sent you. Keep them. Save them. You will be a mom one day. And when you became a mom, open our presents for you. So I still have those wrapped up, never looked at them, but don't even know what they are. So I knew I had to come out and I had to talk about it. And when I did the amount of support and women who reached out to me and told me about their own stories. They were really, it was really sad, but all of a sudden I just had this circle of women who we could support each other and lean on each other

and talk about things. And there was also a lot of really positive stories. There was women that would talk about their miscarriages and now they're rainbow babies or they've got three kids now. And so then it created this just overflow of hope for me. And I realized it's not the end of the world. And I know this sucks and I know it hurts and it's hard. But guess what?

I'm still going to be able to be a mom one day. Whether I have my own baby or I adopt a baby, I'm still going to be a mom one day. So having those women a part of my life really was what helped me kind of pick myself back up and keep going. I'm so grateful for you for sharing that. And I think that so many other people need to be as open about it as you because it does help that healing process. us. And I just wanted to leave by saying that the next time you're on this podcast, I hope it's you talking about your rainbow babies. I really hope so. And if you come on, if you want to talk about the babes.

Yeah. Well, you know, we're, we are in the process of, you know, trying, but not trying, but still kind of trying. Like, you kind of pulled the goalie, but you're not doing like as much effort as they require possibly. Like, we're not, you know, planning it out. But we're not preventing it from happening kind of thing. Yeah. So if it happens, I think we'll be really happy if it happens. But I think that sometimes when you put too much pressure on it, that actually prevents you from getting pregnant.

Right. So we are just, you know, letting it. Yes. Enjoying the practice. Enjoying if it works. Yeah. And we know we've discussed other options and we've discussed adopting, which is definitely something we'd be open to.

I even told him, even if we have our own kid, I'd still be open to adopting. and I don't even care to adopt a baby. You know, I'm okay adopting a toddler or, you know, I'm, I don't know. I just want children really bad. All right. Well, we really hope that you have that soon. You're so sweet. I love getting to know you over the past 20 minutes or so.

Like, I just wish you the very best. You're so sweet. All right. Well, Vienna, thank you for joining us for the first time on the podcast. And we hope to talk to you again. Yes, I hope that it is with some good news next time I talk to you. All right, bye. Bye.

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environment ever created. All right, Kendall and Joe. Last time we had you guys on, it was July, and you were kind of settling in your new place. together how has it been living together it's been great yeah it's been fun i mean like are you gonna ever say anything other than it's been great i mean i mean well okay we have one i guess the only thing we fight i mean we get in fights every so often i feel like we're professional uh arguers i think that's how it is when you get to this like in uh like a year and a half into a relationship yeah there's just a lot more bickering because you're so comfortable with each other that you don't

keep any annoyance is it oh no yeah we're really open with each other kennel's uh she's she's a good arguer so it's yeah you know sometimes it drives me crazy i can't i'm the kind of person that this is my tea okay jo's six so but i'm the type of person that i if if we're fighting i can't go to bed it drives me oh no i'll admit joe's always the bigger person i'm so stubborn what i do is like i'll i'll i'll leave the room i'll go i'll go into dance and then I'll be like, I'll be sitting there and I'll be fuming and then like half hour later I'll kick the door, I'll be like,

and this, you don't make any sense. Whatever. It's true. It's funny. I feel like I over, I analyze conversations and like I remember every detail of it. So, you know,

it's hard to escape me being right. That's, I've been right. I've been right a few times. Joe has been right. I think two times. Joe, I think you'll relate with me.

in the way that like sometimes I'll say something and Jared will pick it like he is so specific about word choice yeah I'm like okay that is he'll interpret it like one way he's like you said these words together and I'm like that was not the connotation that I was in are you kidding me like you know I didn't mean that and he's like well that's what you said yeah and I'm like are you kidding me so I feel like Kendall's the exact same way where she's going to like analyze I'm like it's all about intention yeah and I'll be proving a point and then she'll bring back like what I said and she'll just keep saying it and I'll be like all right fine I said that and I didn't mean it because I don't

know what I said all right I just said it I love this I wish you know what's so great I feel like we just need to be more open about especially since we're in like these public relationships where everything that they see on Instagram is pretty and I'm not like I don't think you need to go on Instagram and be like our relationship isn't as wonderful as it seems we do They didn't do that. I think in interviews, it's fun to be like, no, like, of course it's not fluffy in pleasant in our house all the time. Exactly.

I mean, we get along, galang, for me to say. It's pretty fluffy. Lately, it's been pretty fluffy. I don't think we've had an argument for a while. But it's coming. And I'll, you know, I'm going to tell you why, because we're traveling a lot this month. So tomorrow we're going to Japan. Yeah.

Japan. I don't know. I don't know when this was recorded, they were going to Japan. There you go. It's an easy fix. But we're going to be doing a lot of traveling. Then we're going to Chicago for Thanksgiving.

Yeah, first time I'm actually going to Joe's families in Chicago for Thanksgiving. And for Christmas, what are you guys doing? Christmas. I think Joe's going to be coming to my place. So it's the first switch off here. I think we're going to do L.A. for Christmas. I may stay in Chicago Christmas Eve and then fly out in the morning. It's because we're in L.A. all the time.

And he doesn't get to see his family as much. So. But that's different. Because with us, we have both East Coast families. Yeah. So, you know, one's for one. One's for the other. His parents are going to our place for Thanksgiving, though.

Oh, that's awesome. It's really, it's really my, the in-laws get along so well. That's great. It's a blessing. But I was like, but for Christmas, I don't get my parents because my dad has to work the day after. And I'm like, okay, so is this fair breakup? Yeah. Right.

Yep. Anyway, let's go back to your. trip you're going to Japan you guys argue more when you're in in travel mode no but i think after after the four weeks of traveling being together it's a stress well we're together all the time exactly but there are like stressful times when traveling especially in a country that doesn't primarily speak english and trying to and like not knowing how to navigate the bus the buses or the subways or anything like that so you know stresses will be high i'm sure that'll yeah yeah I just know, I know not to get into Joe's way when he chooses restaurants.

I know I love the food. I'm a planner. I've planned. I planned the lot for his Tokyo trip. Talk about what you were telling me last night with the Alon recommendations. So you guys all know Alon, the former executive producer of the show. He's a massive foodie. You can follow him at, um, is it food of Alon?

Food of Alon. Food of a lawn on Instagram. And, um, he goes to Tokyo or he goes to Japan. three times a year just to eat you guys like he likes the culture and all but he will like make a last minute like flight and reservation if he can get in somewhere just to eat and then he'll fly back like 48 hours later it's nutty well it's so it's so difficult to get into these restaurants you need for so he gave me like 20 30 recommendations um and i couldn't get into like 15 of them because you need 60 days advance it's crazy and in japan in japan

they don't f*** around they're like hey if you you need a reservation yeah really yeah like you can i don't think you could just walk in what are we looking forward to eating ooh to doing well i mean obviously sushi yeah yeah what's your favorite kind of roll uh i i'm not a big roll guy oh what do you like i just like the cut pieces oh okay the fresh salmon i'm all about that salmon kind of love salmon joe's really into tuna i love tuna i love tuna i think you're either a salmon person or a tuna person i know Such a juniper. Yeah, I take tuna over salmon. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I take salmon over tuna. Yeah. Well, there you go. We'll be even. We'll be even. Although, I don't know there's a lot of else.

All she's doing is eating salmon the whole trip. I don't think there's a lot of salmon in Japan. I don't think that's like the main fish. No, I don't think so either. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what are we going to do over there?

And then we got, well, we have. He's like, wait, I'm not. He's like, we have ramen. We have ramen. Yeah. Then you have like the traditional. Japanese sandwich which is like they do it like on white bread it's yeah catsu but like with waggo beef that's going to be really good um and then there's a pizza place that alon actually

recommend it to me pizza place right and they say it's better than naples italy like and it looks so good joe has to go to pizza i will i will it's called like pizza i i can't pronounce it but it's called pizza joe do you remember how hard you were with interviews when you were first a newbie on the franchise yes oh yeah she just talked about this and now you just can't shut up yeah i remember i remember i remember i remember i remember i like it i like it i remember like you were one of the first people to interview me yeah on the red carpet and you're like so how how's it going i'm like it's good i think that was like must have been your first set of like in-person interviews it was it was and i was i was low-key like really freaking out that's why it wasn't that

i i you know didn't have a personality it was just i didn't know how to you know use it that looks amazing yeah that's the white I guess you guys can go to the food of a lawn to see this picture yeah all right nice

all right then you told me last night that you're going to do some Mario cart thing oh yes Mario cart so you can actually drive one of the Mario carts and we want to dress up as the characters so I think I'm going to be I see I'm not as

I don't know a lot about Mario Kart. I think I'm going to be a mushroom when I dress up. I'm going to be Kyoshi. Yeah. So that should be fun. And there's also, in Kyoto, there's an island near Kyoto

where you can go hang out with a bunch of deer. And they have like hedgehog cafes. You can hold a hedgehog while eating or drinking coffee. They make really good coffee out there. There's a lot of good coffee spots I want to go to. I feel like Japan is a place of people

who are like special. specialize in things you know what I mean I feel like there's so much passion and dedication to like a specific field and it's passed down like through generation to generation so I have a lot of admiration for like how like like perfected they are at each individual category category of what I mean food I think yeah I think like like cultural categories yeah because like coffee it's taken very seriously sushi's taking very seriously ramen every even salt like there's like a restaurant that like they just like kind of showcase salt and then they have um soft serve ice cream and then you make the ice cream coat and then they sprinkle like a different kind of like sea salt down there yeah it looks really okay so i've just decided that we're going to go on a couple's trip together yes and i want joe to do all the food and i want to go on a trip so i know i've complained about this multiple times of the podcast i'm sure but jerry like doesn't have this passion for food that i do and it makes me like really sad. I see, I didn't at first. Really? I didn't at first. I mean, I would usually just eat the same thing every day. I would make like rice and vegetables and that's what I would. And I'd be like happy with that. But Joe has opened my eyes up so much. And now I find myself getting more and more bougie because of Joe. I got really boozy after our Italian trip. After our honeymoon. Yeah. Italy changes how you feel about pasta. Like for sure. I go to Italy. I just buy stuff at Italy now, fresh pasta.

It's really so good. And imported stuff. Yeah. Okay, I would love to do this. So you guys, when you vacation and you went to Europe together last year, do you feel more bonded after those trips? Oh, definitely. Yeah. You go through a lot.

Yeah. Yeah. Europe was great, too. I mean, we just walked everywhere. And just exploring and trying to things together. Amsterdam is crazy. Oh, babe, don't tell people. What's a space cake?

Oh, it's okay. Oh, tell me. That's a little, it's a little, like, you know, like a little pound cake. Yeah, it's a little pound cake with a little bit of marijuana in the show. Oh, that's fine. It's legal in California, guys. It's legal, it's legal, but it was one of the most hilarious experiences. I mean, I do, I do encourage people of age, of age to try it.

Yeah, it was, it was pretty wild. So I'll tell you, this is something for the podcast that's we never talked about here before because we're pretty PG and squeaky clean, but Jared and I have both never. smoked pot had an edible anything like that and i kind of like i keep telling him now that it's legal like i don't feel like i'm breaking any law yeah i'm like let's just do it together once it'll be super fun and we'll just do it in our apartment doors locked you know doors locked and he won't do it with me really yeah but i'm not going to do it without him like yes it's we do it together or we we i don't we don't do it at all yeah i agree you should i mean it's it's not that It's a different perception of reality is what it is.

Yeah. Well, Jared's paranoid in general. Like, he's paranoid and scared of pretty much everything. Yeah. So I don't know that he's going to have the best time. That's the thing. If you don't feel comfortable with it and you feel paranoid going into it, then it's not the best. If you're paranoid in general, like I can only imagine.

Well, I'm a paranoid person. But when you go to these stores now, especially in L.A., you could tell them like, hey, listen, I get paranoid. And then they'll give you a strand that doesn't, you know, doesn't make you paranoid. Or as paranoid as regular. We'd would. Cool. So. All right.

Well, to wrap this up, I wanted to talk about the scene app for a second. You guys talked a lot about it with Ben. And I'm a little bit unfamiliar with it. Can you tell me what you learned in the last podcast? So scene is a, we're actually really excited to be a part of it. Very excited. It's about, it's about transparent dating. And what I mean by that is that, um, whenever you match with somebody, all, all of your

messages and video chats are public for everybody to see. So everybody else that's on the app can see your conversations and see your video chats. It's weird. It's, yes. It is weird, but that's why it's fun. It's definitely fun. I guess you're going to be very careful about what you say. It's not going to ever get creepy, which is why it's the safest. Yeah, that's the point. And it's for people that actually want to date. It's for serious daters. Yeah. And it may be scary if you're shy. But once you overcome that,

you step out what is it Kendall the edge of your comfort zone life begins at the edge of your comfort zone thank you Kendall we need to hang out more because our guys are both the exact same Jared is obsessed with his comfort zone and I'm always telling him that quote yeah and the magic happens outside your comfort zone with that like that circle and all that demonstrate the diagram that they have but even like our lives do you love your you love your comfort zone um no I don't I think you've gotten it's I think since Joe is broken out of his comfort zone so many times in the past few years I think now he was dancing everywhere pushed into dancing with the stars the ultimate non-comfort zone

yeah that was it I mean for me I had to like doing that show was something I wasn't good at I was so uncomfortable but you know once you do it it's like yeah just I'm free now you know and one thing we can relate a machine I dance I talk all the time yeah let's get I'm sharing on dancing with the stars. He would love it, though. He loves performing. It's such a great experience. And also, everyone that's a part of that show is just so, so great to work with.

Have you been watching Hannah? Yeah. Yeah, we actually went to the show last week. The Halloween show. Yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. I think she's doing great. I know, I think.

Jenna just got voted all. Yeah, poor Jenna. I love Jenna. She got voted out. Yeah. But, but yeah, to bring it back to the, bring it back to the, to the. scene up. Should Hannah get on the scene? Yes. I mean, I feel like, I feel like one thing is that being a part of Bachelor Nation, you're no stranger to having a public relationship and for

everybody to see every step the good and the bad of your relationship. And I can speak for Joe and I. I felt like our relationship got so much stronger. The more transparent it was and the more that we shared it with everybody. And so we found strength in that with each other. And so I think that's the reason why we're talking to Mike. He's the founder of the scene up. And he initially wanted to create like a reality TV show out of it and so he was talking with us and you know we had this idea of spreading it to having allowing like so many people to have this experience um with dating and it brings it back to like the traditional form of dating too in a sense yes and you also do have the option to go private and you can meet some of you're really into

it's not like you then you don't stay on the app and keep chatting right you know you go do your own thing in the real world yeah exactly all right well the formal explanation of the scene app is seen app is the next generation dating app for online daters fed up with fake profiles and time wasters seen is the first and only dating experience that offers complete transparency to men and women looking for their perfect match transparent dating means a new innovative and honest approach to dating which allows singles who are serious about dating an opportunity to match on real human connections and chemistry and that means more real connections So if you're tired of relying on a contrived profile and a set of might look like me,

but not quite like me, pictures, scene reveals a potential partner's complete personality, charisma, and lets you choose, let yourself be seen, enjoy the safest, most positive and respectful dating environment ever created. All right, guys, thank you for joining me. Thanks for explaining scene. and have fun on your trip to Japan. I can't wait to hear about the food. Oh, yes.

I'm going to be posting like a maniac. Amazing. Two-pulsive day. Here I come. Yes. Okay, great. I'll be looking out for those. And I will also look out

for the pictures of you guys being Mario Kart. Thank you for joining me here on the Almost Sooners podcast. I'm sure you guys are tired of being here. But we appreciate you every time. Oh, no. We love being here. Love it. All right.

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now we have another wonderful bachelor alum guess your bachelor alum now katie morton how does that feel like you're done like you're engaged so like you well if it doesn't last then you can go on another show just we don't want that to be the situation so i'm just going to stay alum you're just going to stay alum let's just say i'll say alum for life okay um i like it i feel i feel like gets a relief. Amazing. I made it. All right. I have a list of rapid fire questions for you because Ben went and he did a whole serious convo with you in the last episode. Heck yeah, he did. Did he get dark? I'm maybe I did. Well, we're going to be light and fun right now with the Katie Rapid Fire, which is apparently my specialty. I think you get to know somebody just as well with the rapid fire as you do deep dark

combos perfect okay um your first your favorite physical trait of chris's dang his hands his hands hands down yeah hands down explain describe uh i like manly hands i like the nail bed i like the how big they are i don't know man something about those hands understandable what was your first impression of chris in two words first impression it doesn't have to be pretty who's this who's this that's good that's first impression he's hot who was the person or persons that you told the producers that you wanted to see in paradise oh um i said i want a silver fox that was exactly what i said i said in my intro so then well i got one a silver fox were you talking about anyone in particular at one point

i thought and i think i said this on the podcast before peter krause okay yeah because i was like I don't know there's any other silver foxes. There's Peter. There's a Rachel's whole season. I felt that there were older guys. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably the last one with older guys.

Mm-hmm. Okay. So you were looking out for Rachel's peeps. Mm-hmm. You mentioned to Jared during Help I Suck of Dating that you and Chris, basically, you go watch TV all day long, snuck on the couch, and then you'll go to dinner. And those are your visits with each other, which I love. What was the last?

show what was the show that you binge watch or you watch are you binge watch anything or do you watch just like what's on TV. We watched a movie. It was called Fractured and I was scared. I was scared. It was called Fractured. It was really a mind. It was one of those mind mystery movies where you don't, I really didn't know what was going to happen at the end. And that's one movie that I can say I actually got through because I really wanted to know what was going to happen. I was on the edge of my seat. But I hated that he was leaving the next day because then I didn't want to be at my house with myself. I was like, oh no. And I walk into my house. house with my fingers shaped like a gun like who's there was it you had a scary break in I did yeah I did okay with talking about that um I am it was the day I was supposed to leave for paradise oh my gosh yeah it wasn't um it was a someone who was homeless and on a lot of drugs so luckily it wasn't someone who was a fan or anything like that I know people were worried about that it was someone who wasn't in their right mind and that was really scary for me I was supposed to be home

but by the grace of God I was not he went into my room knocked all of the stuff that I had packed for Paradise onto the floor um had trashed my house he put a lot of um aquafina bottle labels on my floors on my wood floor stuck them all to my floor like a puzzle weird creepy did I hear something about like him dancing yeah so my neighbors he was like screaming yelling my neighbors saw him he was smashing vases outside and he was apparently dancing around and then dancing in my house I guess the police came in and got him. He had tried to take $4 from me, which was sitting right next to my MacBook Pro. He took the $4 and threw it in the bush angrily. That's what I heard. Didn't take the Mac. Didn't take the Mac. He was like, screw this MacBook Pro. I want $4 and then I want to get

rid of it quick. That's when you know he's not in his right mind. Absolutely. You kind of alluded to the fact that you got through fractured the movie, because you often fall asleep while watching movies with Chris. Yes. What was the last movie you fell asleep during? That's a good question because typically I can't even get to the first line of the movie. No way. I'm not kidding.

I am so as soon as the movie's on, Chris turns the lamp off and as soon as the lamp's off, I'm off. I swear. It's like the lamp goes off and my eyes shut and I try so hard. I think there's part of me that you know how you're almost like half asleep and he's like, are you sleeping? I'm like, no. And I get up really fast. I'm not sleeping. I get really defensive about it. I know. And I lay back down and I, and I'm sleeping again. Me too. I do the same thing. I like, I wake up and I lie to him. I'm like, I'm not sleeping at

all. What are you talking about? Get off my back. I get sort of defensive and embarrassed too when I keep falling asleep during movies because we just can't do it anymore. Right. I don't even know even if it's like relatively early like 730 or something midway through i'll be like oh i'm so cozy and just like something about falling asleep to a movie is so comforting it's so nice but i don't know why i'd get defensive and tell them i tell him i'm not sleeping that's so funny um okay so what did you guys do after you go and fall asleep on the couch or you watch TV. What kind of restaurants do you usually go to? Oh, lately Italian, which I never used to go to. I never, ever went to Italian restaurants. That's so interesting. That's like the go-to in my family and with Jared and I, too.

Oh, yeah, like a lot of, and it's also really romantic. I was a big, like, I would always go to Mexican restaurants, but he, Chris likes fine dining. and the only reason I don't like it is because I have to get ready. Sometimes you've got to get ready. But then once I'm ready and stuff, I love the experience. And the Italian food that I've tried, a lot of the times we went to some really nice Italian places in New York when we were there and in Chicago. And it's so beautiful. And a lot of the two of the restaurants we went to, we got to see them make pasta in front

of us, which I thought was really, really cool. Very nice. So I have a suggestion for your next day at night. Since I went to Italy, I've become a food snob, and I just get fresh, organic, imported pasta from Italy. Whoa. So when he comes to visit you in L.A., go to Italy, get all the imported things, and, like, make dinner together. And what I craft now in our kitchen, to me, is better than what we go out to get. Really?

Yeah. Okay, cool. All right, Katie, my last question for you, because you dress so well in paradise, and you're dressed so cute. right now in front of me where is your go-to place to shop show me your mimu every time okay show me your mimu has clothes that you can go out in and they also have really loungy clothes i like wearing oversized things because then i can um eat more so mood amazing my kind of girl all right katie thank you so much for participating in ashley's rapid fire that's the way i'm going to say it from now on rapid fire and next up we'll have crystal amazing thank you thank you thank you

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Next up, I want to bring in my friend Crystal Nielsen. She's been on the podcast a ton lately, but I figure since she's up here in Napa, as might as well get her opinions on the hottest of all Bachelor topics in the past couple weeks. And that has been the breakup of Demi and Christian. Hey, what's that girl? Hi. All right.

So were you expecting to see the end of Christian and Christian? Demi? You know, I want to say that I was really, I remember at our wedding. Yeah, that's where I was going at. It was the first time that I heard that they were dating and there was the same-sex relationship. It was the first of history for The Bachelor that was televised and publicly known. Do you know something we don't know?

Was there another one? No, there were a big of dozens in the past. Just that I've heard through the violence. Oh, have you? I haven't heard these. Well, yeah, there was something that were like notoriously, like bisexual. I think like Jamie was one. Yeah, right. But did she ever hook up with somebody from the show?

Not that I'm aware of. Oh, my gosh. But Christian wasn't from the show. Like she wasn't, you know, she was a regular person. Yeah. If you will. But I will say going back to your question was, there was my first time hearing about a same sex relationship.

It was actually on my wedding day. I know. And I was like, what? And the whole time I was like, how was this going to play? layout. My mind was freaking blown for like a solid 30 days. I'm like,

how? You were mind blown because she was able to bring on someone the whole thing. The world. The whole thing. It was just something I did not see coming and that it was someone that wasn't from the show that they'd been dating prior to filming. There was just so many areas around it that

were so out of the norm. But I will say, watching it unfold. I thought it was really beautiful how it really came to be. Yeah, I mean, they were so rootable during their season. The love was definitely there. The feelings were palpable. Yeah. And I think that, um, really seeing Christian just felt so authentic to me. Yeah, I really liked her. And I was, I was really rooting for them. Yeah. But coming off the show, I remember saying, like when we were there at reunion at the final taping, I was like, look, there's a lot of pressure that comes of being a bachelor couple.

I'm sure, as you know, and they're all very young. And this is very new. And they are dealing with a lot of hate, a lot of pressure, a lot of exposure. And not to mention, Demi was just figuring out if she, what her gender preference was in a relationship. So I think it was just probably a lot to deal with and process. Yeah. I think it was a give a giveaway that in the past month or so there had been no Instagram content of the two of them on help myself in dating Katie had actually said that she doesn't want to post photos with Chris because she feels like it'll lead on the audience sort of she's like I'm not going to post until I feel 100% solid with you so I think that's like very mature yeah and authentic so I'm you know

Demi obviously wasn't just posting pictures with Christian for the likes but um yeah I think that was a giveaway a little bit that they were on a rough road yeah I think that there's just a lot of I mean of course if you don't see couples together yeah especially coming off of the show when you're really being celebrated like that is your time to like get the love get the support and just be proud of your relationship ship especially because they were really setting history that um i was really surprised that i hadn't seen any interaction of them together so i think it makes sense um and i just wish them the best i

think that they're just figuring it out and you know who you should really interview as christian i would love i would love to hear her perspective let's write that down because nobody's been like pulled into the world like she was oh talk about flip upside down right i mean just the magnitude of it I would love it to talk with her. It would be so good. Let's book her right now. Can we get her on next week, our next in-depth episode? Messager.

That would be amazing. So, yeah, I mean, I can't say that I'm surprised just because of what the lack of what we've seen lately. But it's sad. It sucks. I was rooting for them hard. It was too. It was really fun to watch their relationship. But I also had this pondering question that has kept thinking of during the season and after their engagement.

I was like, if they were to have continued to date in real life over the summer, would they have ever gotten engaged? Right. Well, I think that, I mean, honestly, a lot of couples. And I think if Chris and I would have met in real life, like, we wouldn't have gotten engaged after a month. You know what I'm saying? That's basically like every other bachelor couple. Of course. You're just in that environment where, and for those, the listeners who don't know or, you know, I'm sure you do because you listen every week, right?

Well, they can know, like from the knowledge perspective, but they can't know from the emotional perspective. Yeah. You are just, you are supported in such a way, especially for Chris and I. I mean, you are just hand, almost hand fed this amazing support of this relationship to blossom and thrive. and like everyone's behind you everyone's rooting for you and I mean it's an incredible feeling honestly I mean it really is and you find yourself in these situations where I mean when you and Jared came down actually was you were there it was actually a you know memorable day in our relationship okay so why was that a big day in your relationship with Chris so after you guys got engaged

all the producers pulled all of us to have like important conversations about you know hey we're more than half with your paradise or do we see this relationship going do we see ourselves getting married and kids and chris and i decided that night to um go into the boom boom room for the first time the first time and for those who don't know i mean you guys know what happens there's like one camera instead of 12 around you and what do you think the camera person not the camera person but I guess the person up in the control room, do you think they watch or not? Of course they watch it.

We could see the camera and following us in moving. Yeah, we were kind of into it. Okay, it's kind of like that we're doing a sex tape type thing. Hopefully it'll never get in. Well, actually, you're like, it won't get out. There's no way that footage could have gone out.

You under the covers, though, right? Under the covers. No. Oh, my God. They were on the balcony, Ashley. But under the... watching everyone at the chemfire you were watching everybody i mean we were there you had the windows pulled like the curtain so we were in the room all the way at the very top which has it is a beautiful

room with like an open there's no windows like it totally open the whole room's open oh you were in the loft yeah that top oh i thought you were talking about the other boom boom room that has like a little bit of a curtain no no no we were okay all the way up top of the tree house so basically anybody could walk in to like go get some snacks in the refrigerator no we were at the very top i know but that doesn't have a door or anything it doesn't no and that's a minute excited so maybe they couldn't see you if they were getting a snack in the refrigerator i will say that that night was an amazing night an amazing night and it just happens to also be the day that you got engaged you waited a bit you waited a bit it was like

three weeks we did yeah we waited it's great we did there was a lot of built up you know like yeah we were ready oh so what made you so thank you actually you're welcome i inspired the romance you did oh my god thank you conversations why did you do it then and not wait for the uh fantasy suite you know i think we just didn't know how much time was going to be loved in paradise and i think just for chris and i was really we just wanted to spend a night together

and not even so much just have sex but we just wanted to see what it would feel like to for me to wash up all my makeup and crawl in bed with him to brush him to brush our teeth together to fall asleep like does he snore can we sleep together like are these things compatible and I needed to know that sooner than the night I could potentially get engaged to someone I needed to the next day yeah exactly I needed to have a little more of like that realism in the relationship all right well crystal we talked about one hot topic and you gave us a hot topic I got you so thank you very much all right next step we have Maddie Poppy I'm on a little bit of a health kick lately.

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Thank you. Very beautiful office. Do you hear at the, what's it called? The Casarnus Ranch? What's the ranch called? We'll say Naperva Valley. Yes, right here in Napa Valley. Maddie, you have been on reality TV.

Two shows, actually, the voice and American Idol. And you met your boyfriend, Caleb. I did. It was The Bachelor mixed with American Idol, I like to say. You guys were the winner. and runner up and you got together and that is actually not the only time it's happened on American Idol but it's still so much fun that you like developed a reality relationship so I think you kind of understand this totally yeah so are you a bachelor fan I don't watch every season because like

lately I have not been able to watch because I'm I'm never in one in the same place every Monday night. I love that I know it's every Monday night but but like I've definitely watched you know I catch I catch an episode or like a season every now and then you follow yes

lightly yes okay so how do you feel like your relationship now is it got more scrutiny because you guys met on the show and because the fans of the show want you guys to be together yeah for sure

the pressure is definitely there and also like I can't imagine people who you know like people who are on the bachelor bachelorette the pressure that they must feel to stay together even if like after the fact they know like it's you know this isn't going to work or something you know I'm lucky that I do actually you know I do feel like my boyfriend and I will work out you know hopefully and you recently called him the one oh yeah that's everywhere isn't it that's weird that's a really weird but um yeah i can't imagine the pressure that i would feel if i was just like because like we can't you know if we broke up i can't imagine but you know it's interesting because you said that um you know that you think that we have a lot of pressure but you guys were able to date

inform a relationship while you were actual competitors on the show yeah how does that work how was there not jealousy you know what i'm gonna be honest with you i think if he would have won I would have been extremely jealous So I think it's good It worked out Just girls get jealous You know what I'm saying Yeah

But he didn't really want to win Why not? Because I mean Honestly I don't know that This sounds terrible But I don't know that he would have been The best winner Because I don't know if he would have been able

To like do all the You know Disney is tied in with ABC and so you have to put on the Mickey ears And be like Let me tell you about the magic of Disney Yes You know what I mean

So I don't know that he would have been able Hello, record label guy who's with Disney, Hollywood Records. Hollywood Records. The former label of the Jonas Brothers. That's right. That's right. But anyways, I don't know that he would have been able to do all that.

You know what I mean? It'd just be harder for a dude, I think. But, yeah, it honestly, it never really felt like a competition show. It was more like Summer Camp because... That's how it feels filming The Bachelor or The Bachelorette, not Bachelor in Paradise. Bachelor in Paradise is a more rigorous.

I am emotional experience yeah yes oh it was opposite for yeah okay well crystal here who's sitting in had a little bit more of a tumultuous time during the bachelor but that's a different conversation you um were on the voice as well and I feel like your story is so um it's so incredible you did a live in you did a live performance for the judges on the voice nobody turned around you were eliminated right there on the spot And then American Idol, was it Lionel Richie, said, like, you need to be part of this competition. And then you won it. What in the world?

How is it so inconsistent? First of all, you do great research. Oh, really? I don't know if you were, you actually watched or you just look this up. But either way, it doesn't matter. You're great. A lot of people would be like, so what's your name? Oh, well, I mean, I just need to let you know here, um, heart idol.

In, in Virginia, you can have a heart on your license plate. So mine said heart idol from like 2007. So do you still watch? I don't watch it the past like five seasons. I get it. I get it. It's okay. I haven't watched the past five seasons either.

David Cook performed at my wedding. Wow. Oh my gosh. That's big time. The question was about the voice. How is it so inconsistent? It was super embarrassing. But your talent is mind boggling.

Like your voice was made to be famous. that's so sweet thank you and for none of those judges to turn around i think if kelly clarkson had heard you she would have turned around now i got to say something though that's so sweet but i got to say i wouldn't turn for me either that was i didn't think it was very good performance at all like watching it i was cringing and like first of all that show is very different from idle because on that show they have so much control over you and um you know they pick your outfit and your song and everything idle is literally like okay just show up and do whatever you want. And I think that's what was so different. You know, I didn't get my guitar when I was on

the voice, so I was super awkward. And I didn't know even who I wanted to be, what genre I wanted to sing. I was, if it would have worked out then, it wouldn't have been good. The age difference was a year and a half between the voice and Idol. And that, and it's crazy how much I kind of grew in just that little amount of time. But I was devastated after that. Of course, I thought, you know, Idol was going off the air like that same season. So I was like, well, that was my last opportunity. and that there it was came back so quickly came back yeah not even give it what maybe not even two full years I know I know I know um yeah I just wasn't ready yeah honestly I can't say here and say yeah screw the voice you know they didn't turn around for me I think a lot of

people want me to be like because some people ask like yeah do you wish what you wish you could tell Blake Shelton now and I'm like well I tell him you were you were right I wasn't ready then There you go. And yeah, I'm not being biased right now because you're in front of me, but I've always just understood the appeal of Idol more than the voice. I never got into it. And this is a girl who had heart idol on her license plate. That's amazing. And that means a lot.

I mean, I think that that show has had so much success because they let people be whoever they want to be. You know? When you package something together and then you put it out into the world, you can't expect it to continue to, you can't, you can't expect it to continue to. you know thrive in the way it did when you know when that person was surrounded by you know a team real crazy yeah and just controlling yeah yeah but i mean don't get me wrong like that show obviously has been on for so many seasons sure but i people love it i feel like it's more a tv show and less of a launching pad for artists oh for sure it's not about the artists yeah i mean that sounds really bad but it's not about discovering kelly clarkson you know it's about um oh the banter between

the judges and they have such a great lineup you know obviously that's so entertaining because it's like a reality TV show for these stars already you know um I want to go back to your boyfriend for a second just Caleb Caleb Lee Hutchinson and he's a artist of course still working in Nashville um but he he and you met on the idol you've been together for a year and a half and I saw that you post a monthly posts on Instagram saying we're still together just letting you know because the fans will always speculate we were just talking about a bachelor couple who broke up and we all speculated that it was coming because they hadn't posted of each other in a month so how do you feel about the pressures of keeping up your relationship on Instagram and since it's something that

we as a bachelor family have to deal with all the time totally I mean man we can relate on so many levels because um yeah it's like I feel like we will like joke around on Twitter or something and then the next day like if we don't post every day you wouldn't believe the comments they're like some will be like well she's pregnant and others will be like they're done for good you know what I mean yeah like it's just that no I mean there's so many expectations and it's like you know it's just become kind of a joke like that post was a total joke because I was just Like, you know, I don't care. I'm happy my relationship.

I don't think I need to let the world know every five seconds, you know, keep them updated on, you know, what's happening with us. Yeah. And Instagram is a big highlight real of a relationship anyway. It's just all butterflies and rainbows. And then, of course, if you were to show some realness, then people would be like, oh, they're on the rocks. Totally.

And you know what? The thing that kind of sucks about being a musician nowadays is that you're not just a musician. You have to be a social media influencer, too. That's kind of goes along with every division of entertainment now. You know, like anything you want to do, you know, if you want to keep it up, that platform on social media is so important. And if you don't have a presence there, well, I mean, it's one thing if you made it in the 90s and you're like, you know, just going to be a star forever. Yeah.

But for people up and coming, if you don't have a social media platform, it's like, you're just. You're certainly not appealing to the millennial crowd. No, but it sucks because, man, it's exhausting. Social media is exhausting mentally, everything, you know. Last thing I want to talk to you about is your new single Bring It Home featuring former American Idol alum, Philip Phillips. It's now available and you can get tickets for your upcoming tour. Who are you going on tour with? I just finished the tour.

Oh, you just finished the tour. But you can get tickets to something else. I don't know yet. All right, but we'll check out where she's going to next on mattiepoppy.com. that is M-A-D-D-D-I-E-P-O-P-P-E dot com And your album came out in May It's called Whirlwind If there's one song on World Win

That you want people right now to open up their Apple music too What do you want it to be? It's called Not Losing You And it will woo you And it's charting on the radio So that's the one. Keep streaming it so we Keep moving up

All right, well thank you you maddie so nice meeting you are the second um you're the second american i'll be in this podcast and i was the first um it was mccreary yeah scotty yeah it was very cool we were here in napa for that one as well the country music festival very cool yeah thank you man you've been a wonderful guest well thanks for having me this was so much fun i like your shoes got some platforms in this converse they were hard to find thank you all right bye thanks Talk about a jam-filled show, guys. We had Crystal, Katie, Maddie, Poppy.

And we also talked to Joe and Kendall. I mean, damn, we covered a lot in one episode here at Live in the Vineyard in Napa Valley. It's been a wonderful time talking to everyone and just chilling out with some wine. We hope you guys enjoyed it too. And the next time you hear from Ben and myself, we will be together, promise you that. I know you guys like those episodes. when we get to, you know, have our original host time. So thank you guys for listening.

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