The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - Finding Your Happily Ever After

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Jared joins Ashley to break down the latest Bachelor headlines! Ashley finds out if Nick Viall gave her the “fake” gender of his baby, we discuss Katie Thurston’s return to reality dating, and w...e get real about who has chosen sides in the battle of Team Jason/Team Kaitlyn.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 the things that you were meant to do. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with IHartRadio Hello everyone Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast Where today we'll be talking Bachelor headlines
Starting point is 00:02:38 And tomorrow I'll be talking to Raven Gates Which I'm so excited about Because we're going to talk so much motherhood And partnership in motherhood But today I am joined by one of my favorite Bachelor nation contestants I mean I'm hoping I'm your favorite Bachelor Nation contestant.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Definitely my favorite. Obviously. I'm Jared. That's my name. Hey, guys. Jared I canetti. Jared I for the listeners out there. Well, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:03:11 We should just start with that. That's funny. Are you annoyed that I haven't officially taken your last name? Not at all. Are you sure? Has Raven? Speaking of Raven, I actually think I should talk to Raven about that because I talked to Crystal about
Starting point is 00:03:24 that a couple weeks ago. And she said that she's going to, but I was like, but you realize you have to go like to this office and that's that the office and that's that office. And she was like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do it. As long as Dawson has my last name. That's what I care about most. Yeah, but what we want is that, like, we want Dawson have the same last name as me because sometimes when we go through TSA, they're like, they check me multiple times. Like, they want my ID, my driver's license. As long as Dawson and I get on the plane, that's the most important thing. You can stay back. Fine. You can have them on your lap the entire time. Oh, he's a little baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Well, blah, blah, blah. Kids, that leads into our first topic. Bachelor Nations, Nick Vial and fiancé, Natalie Joy, reveal the sex of their first child. First off, babe, do we know Natalie's last name really Joy? I would imagine. Why would she lie about that? I think that's, like, her cutesy Instagram handle.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Like, what's her real last name? I bet it's Joy. You think so? Do you think Joy is a stage name? No, I think it's her middle name. Yeah, but. Isn't this funny that, like, we don't even know the answer to this? No, well, I mean, her name soon will be Natalie Viol.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's what she's under my phone. Oh, really? They're going to have the same initials. Envy. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, Toots Adorbs. Okay, well, they're having a girl, which is great news because that means that they didn't lie to us. Did you hear what he did?
Starting point is 00:04:46 No. He said when they announced that they were having a baby, not the gender reveal, he said, Some of our friends know the gender already, but then we faked some of our friends out and sent them the fake gender just to weed out who's our real friends and who's not. To see if it got out there. Yeah. Well, that's good. I'm glad he doesn't think that we're going to leak his gender to the press.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So we received this video probably like, I don't know, six weeks in advance of them actually revealing it. It feels like a long time ago. Doesn't it? I feel like it's probably six weeks. Yeah, I guess. I have no concept of time. Yeah, you're not really good with that. I thought, honestly, today's Monday.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I thought it was Thursday for the longest time. And then yesterday, I thought it was Saturday. Saturday, I thought it was Friday. So we received the video a couple weeks, months ago, and we saw them pop the balloon and reveal it was a girl. I'm not surprised at all by this, but Nick is going to be a very protective girl dad. and the caption that they
Starting point is 00:05:52 that they captioned the shared Instagram post was her first words will be boundaries. What do you think of that? I think it's very vile files of him. That's what I think it is. What does that mean? It's not very Nick of him, but it's very vile files.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Yeah. What would, if Nick was being true to himself, what would probably Packers? No. Packers, yeah. No. What does Nick love? Nick loves, like, debating.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Yeah. Okay, I was going to say, like, her first word will be debate. I mean, that is funny. I mean, God, the poor soul, whoever tries to date his daughter. Oh, my God. The psychological evaluation, this man's going to have to go through. He's going to be Robert De Niro. Yeah, from Meet the Parents.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah. Oh, 100%. Oh, my gosh. Can you imagine what the first meeting will be like and how he'll just try. So I always make fun of Nick and Jared because both of them love to play devil's advocate, and they both love to argue. So the two of them could spend hours defending a point of view that they both truly don't believe in, but they'll take the position and just fight to the death for that position.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know what I think Nick does well, too, if I think about it. I know he talks a lot, but what Nick also does very well is he lets you talk, but almost to your detriment where things will just be coming out of your mouth. And he'll pick up on every single little thing. Exactly. And whatever you say, he will be used against you in the court of Nick Viol. But let me also say that I think that these two may have lost out on a great, a profession that was a calling for both of them. It could have been the Habin and Viol, or as Nick would insist on, the Viol and Habin partners in law.
Starting point is 00:07:38 There's no way my name is going above. Yeah. Nor should it go above Nick. You could have gone to law school together in L.A., but I guess we've all worked out. Yeah, we have all the time in the world to do that now. Nick and I will just go to law school online. But I'm talking a couple years ago when you guys used to live together.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, we could have done that. We also are really enjoying Natalie's Instagram content. Hilarious. She posted a TikTok the other day, I guess you put it on Instagram too. She was like, we were out baby shopping in New York and Nick calls her from across the store and goes, I just found the perfect, like, first outfit
Starting point is 00:08:12 that I want to buy for our child. And did you see the picture? No. Jared, I have to pull up my phone right now. So the outfit Ashley is speaking of is a pantsuit. Is that what you'd say? Yeah, it's definitely boyish. It's gray and it is a pantsuit for a toddler. Yeah. Not even a toddler. That looks like a first year outfit. I fully expect from this outfit that Nick wants his little girl to run for president one day. Oh, I was going to say be the first guest like on the couch at the bio files. Oh, that also. She can wear the same suit jacket to her interview on Vial Files.
Starting point is 00:08:48 and her first town hall meeting. Yeah. Well, I think this is going to be the first girl of many children for Nick and Natalie, actually. I think they're going to have, well, at least three. Because he comes from a family
Starting point is 00:09:00 in which he is one of ten. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of kids. This really goes without saying, I think both you and I think that Nick and Natalie are just going to be fantastic parents. Nick, we've always thought Nick is going to be a wonderful dad.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We have no doubt about that. Natalie seems like she's just going to be a fantastic mom. mother, very loving. Nurturing. And they're so great together. Yeah, their daughter is going to be very loved. So we're very excited for both them.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, those are two parents I'd like to be born and born too. Of course. If I had to choose other parents, of course, than my own, which are the best. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford. And in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls,
Starting point is 00:11:09 I sit down with Dr. Othia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. You talk about the important role hairstyles play in our community, the pressure to always look put together,
Starting point is 00:11:44 and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss Session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway.
Starting point is 00:12:09 We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, co-hosting a podcast with her fiancé Sue Bird, watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:12:28 What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final. The final. And the locker room. I really, really, like, you just can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to shit talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar A. Z. Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all. The guest list is absolutely stacked for season two.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. former bachelorette star katie thurston joins f boy island for season three on the c w so you guys know that the man who married us our love alon gale he created the series and it was on the um on max or hbl max whatever you want to call it um two seasons 21 and 22 and now they they canceled it on max but they've moved it over to the c w and i feel like the tie to Alon and
Starting point is 00:13:45 Katie, there has to be some sort of tie there as to why he'd want her, right? I mean, even though he didn't produce any of the seasons that she was on. Like, what do you think it was about Katie that, like, Alon was probably like, I'd like to have her be a lead on
Starting point is 00:14:01 F. Way Island, where if you guys don't know F.Wy Island, basically there's three female leads and there's a cast of, like, 20-something guys. And, oh, yeah, 13 self-proclaimed, guys looking for love and 13 self-proclaimed F-boys looking to compete for cash? There's probably a lot of reasons. One, I think Katie is single. She was a bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:14:24 She's a big name. Bring her on F-boy Island. She's very open about her sex life. I think that has a lot to do with it. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a perfect match. My question, because the CW, to me, like, I remember watching Smallville in The Flash. yeah i guess there's you know reality tv shows on model yeah i'm curious how salacious the show is how salacious this show can be well he'd be more salacious on max of course i mean that's hbo you can be as salacious as you want like imagine sex in the city on the cw well yeah it would be like the edited version which i watch on e all the time exactly well yeah so i wonder if this is like
Starting point is 00:15:08 an edited version of fboy island we'll see okay next up kendall long and Blake Moynes announced that they are teaming up for a conservation trip to Madagascar. So we all know that Kendall is like all about her science facts. She gives cool animal facts all the time. And then we know that Blake Moynes is basically like he's always been into. Do we know? I don't know what. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:15:32 You know what Blake Moynes said. He was basically a park ranger. I did not know that. Oh, yeah. So they're teaming up to go to Madagascar and bring awareness to critically endangered lemur species. That's cool. They'll be working hands-on
Starting point is 00:15:48 with the lemur conservation efforts. I... Did these two ever... They never cross paths in Bachelor Nation. Yeah, but you know, Bachelor, it's like, especially if you're into lemurs, there's only a small group of Bachelor reality, TV personalities.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Jared just looked up pictures of lemurs. They're kind of adorable, but they also have very scary eyes. You know, little babies. Look at those wide eyes, especially with the tongue out. Would you go to Africa? Sure. I mean, probably not. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I don't want to go. Jared doesn't like going outside of his comfort zone whatsoever. Jared, if like, okay, so. I don't want to go to Connecticut. Forget about Africa. He doesn't. We went to Boston the other day, and it was like, Jared's like, why are we doing this? Everything we need in this world is in Rhode Island.
Starting point is 00:16:33 It's not far from the truth, is it? I am becoming a little bit more like you because it's just like, oh, a pretty water view, Rhode Island. Got it. Five minutes away. There's like a lot. There is, Rhode Island does offer a lot geographically. If you want a city,
Starting point is 00:16:48 sure, we could go to Providence or we could just go to Warwick, go to Route 2. No, that, no. Go to BJ's Target, all in the same plaza.
Starting point is 00:16:56 On the border. Chuckie cheese. Tell me what else you need in life. Um, okay, wait, so yeah, Jared just in general,
Starting point is 00:17:04 like anything out of his physical comfort zone, he's actually worse than me. I don't know how you got through paradise because, okay, so let's be honest here. Dean and Kalin are getting married. and he talked about this with them on Help I Suck at Beas Newly Woods, their podcast together.
Starting point is 00:17:17 He was like, look, you guys, from your imitations to me exploring what I can about this retreat center, basically, that you're getting married at. This seems all Dean. Yeah, but Kalyn is the one who's like, I love the resort. I chose it. I begged Dean. And then obviously she didn't have to beg Dean because Dean was in. Did you say like this seems like I'm concerned that I'm going to have like internet service
Starting point is 00:17:41 at this retreat center? No, I didn't say that. But do you feel it? Yes, I feel it. Jared loves his conveniences. He's like, he needs to have a strip mall within 10 minutes of where he is. I would like that. I can't deny that that is my preference as well.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Bachelor of Lum, Sarah Heron, marries Dylan Brown in an intimate Grand Canyon ceremony. So she was really open about the fact that they were going to go on this trip to the Grand Canyon and they were going to get married. And then, like, a week after, I was realizing, I was like, oh my God, I haven't seen pictures yet. So she kind of went off the grid for a little while. And she just posted a couple cute reels and the photos of them getting married. There was very few people in attendance. It was kind of like obviously an elopement. And she basically, she wore a wrinkly white dress. It was all very cute, but it was all very Sarah. Because she loves being immersed in nature. And she like, she just likes the earthy,
Starting point is 00:18:41 the you know the earthy simple things and they were just adorable and they've had quite the year if these two can make it through what they have gone through they can make it through anything as you know they lost their baby at about 20 weeks yeah yeah so they did it they did it on august 27th at mile 75 on the colorado river standing on hot granite wearing a ring dress and she said it was hot granite why is that so specific were they barefoot? Barefoot. I'm assuming So is this like walking over hot colds? Barefoot ceremony. Man that's a bonding moment right there. And then
Starting point is 00:19:25 there is a picture on her Instagram. It says just married and the sign is attached to a little river boat. Oh. Yeah, so cute. That is really cute. I mean, very happy for Sarah. Sarah we met I think I'm made I can't remember if I met before Paradise but she was on her
Starting point is 00:19:45 second season of Paradise and so sweet just a really really sweet soul I'm so glad she like found her happily ever after that's also what she posted about on Instagram just like stepping out of the limo and like her journey of love that continued after that well this is really sad and really awful news I'm so sorry that we even have to discuss this but Amanda Kaler, who was Eric, what is, how do you say Eric's last name? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Eric, but it was the. You know, Gabby's Eric. She has passed away at the age of 27. It was a suicide. The worst part about this is that she's a single mom to a young, a young child. I think, yeah, he was born in 2020. He's only three years old. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Do we know if Eric is the father? No, Eric's not the father. So her story and how it relates to The Bachelor is that if you guys remember, Eric was caught on Gabby's season. Well, not like while Gabby season was airing, there were headlines about how he was dating Amanda prior to going on the show, like very, very recently to going on the show. They started dating in January of that year, and then he started filming in March of that year. So after what she says was a world win romance, she told Reality Steve in an interview in September of last year, all the details. But basically she said that they had quite the romance. And then he said, hey, I'm like, you know, in March before he would go on the show, like very soon before he'd go on the show. He said, like, I'm stuck in this career that I'm not happy with. I need a big change in my life. And like going on The Bachelor can, like, possibly bring me that. And then a couple weeks later, like, I feel like maybe the day that he got his phone taken away, possibly, like really close to them filming, he sent her flowers and also sent her a text saying, like, this is, this was a mistake. I hope that, like, we can see each other when I'm out of this. And, yeah, and that's, and then he ended up getting engaged to Gabby. And obviously, I don't think she heard from him afterward.
Starting point is 00:22:10 But it's obviously just horrible, horrible news. Yeah, just tragic news. Obviously, our thoughts are with specifically the son. You know, he's born January 26th, 2020, so he's... Two years. Two years old in Dawson. Three and a half. I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Obviously, our thoughts go to the entire family that's being affected by this. and friends, but specifically the son, because I can't imagine. She was already a single mom, you know, so like we don't even know how much the dad was involved in his life. Yeah, I can only hope that the family is really rallying together to this point to ensure that he is in the best hands possible, which I'm sure they are, but just tragic, sad news all around. I mean, there's nothing else to be said about that except just horrible.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Absolutely horrible. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and their the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew
Starting point is 00:23:59 Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie, and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford. And in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls, I sit down with Dr. Othia and Billy Shaka to explore how our hair connects to our identity, mental health, and the ways we heal. Because I think hair is a complex language system, right? In terms of it can tell how old you are,
Starting point is 00:24:45 your marital status, where you're from, you're a spiritual belief. But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right? That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a reel is how our hair is styled. We talk about the important role
Starting point is 00:25:02 hairstylist play in our hair. our communities, the pressure to always look put together, and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us. Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying, don't miss Session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett, where we dive into managing flight anxiety. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Get fired up, y'all.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people. and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapino to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, co-hosting a podcast with her fiancé Sue Bird, watching former teammates retire and more. Never a dull moment with Pino.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final, the final, and the locker room. I really, really, like, you just can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to locker room every morning just to shi-talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all. The guest list is absolutely stacked for season two.
Starting point is 00:26:15 And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Bachelor Nation's Blake Hortzman is sick of team Caitlin or team Jason after their recent split. Yeah, but is he team Jason or is he team Caitlin? Like, we want to know.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I think he's pretty close to both of them. So he said, all right, I'm already sick of this BS. He wrote this out on an Insta story. There are no teams. These are two friends of mine who gave everything they had to a relationship that didn't work. He also said, like, I think you think you are helping, but you're not helping either of them
Starting point is 00:27:10 by sliding into DMs or attacking people in the comments section. Let them heal on their own. They don't need your help. And I think we can, like, echo those sediments. I mean, I also think that these, like, two have, it seems amicably split. it just wasn't working for either one of them. It seems like they're like on, it's obviously hard,
Starting point is 00:27:34 but I do think that they're on good terms. Yeah, it seems like the breakup in Seinfeld where Jerry has the first ever level playing breakup where it wasn't one side or the other. They both just look at each other and they're like, I hate you. That's great.
Starting point is 00:27:49 All right, have a good life. See you. Way to bring Lovity to this, man. But they're definitely both going through it. And I just really think, that this was something like I just there's nothing they're not even putting anything bad about each other out there no another reason that like you just know like there's so much love and respect there so like why would you pick a team if there's just obviously not one person who did
Starting point is 00:28:12 any wrong yeah we're also talking about people who are constantly commenting on social media of course everybody who's doing this is just saying stupid stuff even though there's a lot of wonderfulness on social media. You know, we have a lot of comments sometimes about us or Dawson that are very positive and they make us feel fantastic. Yeah. But of course, there's a lot of dumb stuff too. That's just what happens. It's the internet. So I think, of course, there's going to be people going at Blake being like, bro, you can't be friends with Caitlin anymore. You've got to be team Jason or being like, hey, you should stick with Caitlin. She needs you more right now than Jason does. Just what's going to happen? People suck. It's quite all right. That's my opinion on it right
Starting point is 00:28:55 there. Yeah. I get it. So what team are you on, team Caitlin or team Jason? I am not on anyone's team. That's the correct answer. Wells Adams confesses that Bachelor in Paradise ripped off Love Island. Now listen, I get what he's saying here. He goes, every season on Love Island, basically they split the girls from the guys. And then on season eight, a Bachelor in Paradise last season, they split the girls from the guys. They brought the girls over to Vandanta. And then Wells goes, well, guess what? No one's making new shit anymore. It's like everybody's kind of copying each other. Like, you know, Bachelor in Paradise was kind of the first really popular seasons long show where people
Starting point is 00:29:39 are like dating in a tropical area. And then Love Island came along and it's huge now too. So in a way, it's kind of like Love Island ripped off Bachelor in Paradise. But you just told me off the record that you think people are making new shit? Yeah, I think people rip people off. I think people are making new stuff. I think it happens all the time. I mean, how old is love is blind? Two, three years?
Starting point is 00:30:04 I would say it's maybe four years now. All right, well, time flies by. But anyway, that felt very new and fresh when it came out. And that was only four years ago. And then what else is, I mean, we're about to watch a 70-year-old bachelor. No, yeah. Good point, Ben. So, I mean, I think that there is being new stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:22 But I also, I think it's both. I think there are people who rip other people off because what's good for McDonald's is good for a bird king. But all at the same time, I think there's new stuff as well. So it's just like, there's only so much you could do with having people date in a tropical location that's different than the other show. That's so true. It's like, oh, well, it's about love and we're at a beach. And so you can like, well, this one's about money and this one's about engagement. or this one, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But yeah, it's all going to be kind of similar concepts. I didn't even think about Love Island, honestly, when they did that thing last year. But also, I don't love... But you also never seen Love Island. I know. And I've only... It's been around for quite some time.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I couldn't get past episode one. I guess I was watching the UK version, which I think is the original. I heard that's good. And it was so effing trashy. I could not continue. I watched one episode. Babe, remember I told you that was the guy
Starting point is 00:31:18 who, like, said he had slept with four. 400 women. And I was like, I don't want to watch this. I mean, that is impressive and disgusting. Okay, thank you. I knew that you were going to say disgusting and then you added impressive because you didn't want to be super judgy. Well, it's just like, my God, the energy that man must have.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, like, every night you have to go out and, like, find someone. I know how old he was. I want to do the math on that. When he lost his virginity? Like, how many is he average a year? I don't know. Sounds like a job. Okay. New headline. Rodney Matthews hard launches with new girlfriend
Starting point is 00:31:53 Ari calling her the love of his life. So, wow. Wait, wait, why do you don't like that? I'm just, I hope that they've been dating for a very long time and this is a very secure, stable relationship
Starting point is 00:32:08 because Rodney's a very nice guy but saying he's a lot, like this person is the love of his life. I hope it's not like two months in, you know what I mean? I hope it's like, oh, we've been together for like six to eight months and this is feeling really good. Well, we actually don't know how long they've been together, but he did post just this week, quick life update, the happiest I've ever been. Aw, good for him.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. And there was a video and he wrote, the first night I met, the love of my life, a night I'll never forget. Her name is Ari. We don't know much more about her, but Bachelor Nation is very happy to see the two of them. together. We had comments from Nate and Serene and Susie Evans and Mike Johnson. Interestingly, Andrew
Starting point is 00:32:56 also hard launched this week at Joe and Serena's wedding with Missy girlfriend. And these two are bros. Bros. Bros. Just dating. Just dating and fine in love. Fining love. Bros. Fine and love. Good for that. To wrap up this podcast,
Starting point is 00:33:13 this is fun. This is fun little tidbit. Fun. That's what we do here. We do fun things, guys. We're about fun. So Dylan, Barber, and Hannah, they're just, of course, we got married, they got married, we broke down their wedding. Who could forget that wedding? I know.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It's like, that wedding is like, hurt the competition to our wedding. I got news for you. It probably blew us out of the water. Our wedding is amazing and beautiful, and there's so many weddings within Bachelor Nation. But, like, if you have a wedding like that in France with fireworks? The fireworks show was 20 minutes. 20 minutes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We talked about a help which I could be new woods. How much do you think that wedding cost? I don't know. At least a million. Well, it just depends on what the trades were, but also it depends on what the, what is it called? Like, between the U.S. dollar and the France dollar and like the euro. I can't imagine that's. They had a 20-minute fireworks show.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Yeah. And the people who did our flowers. did theirs and well we got a nice deal and I'm sure they got a nice deal great wedding anyway so they went to um they went to the Maldives on their honeymoon and on the last day of their honeymoon which was over a week long close to two weeks long I think um in they did this funny reel where it was like oh what you think that your honeymoon would look like what the last day of your honeymoon would look like like super romantic like dancing under the stars and then what like your last day of your honeymoon really was. And it was Dylan trying to break the world record in dim sum eating. So he would
Starting point is 00:34:53 need to eat 31 dimsums. Is how much you call it a dim sum? Like a dim sum? Like a dumpling? I don't know. A dim sum dumpling in two minutes. He said that the whole resort was going to come to watch. Let's go. Do you think I can do it? And then Hannah said yes, one million percent. And then Hannah and Dylan arrive at the restaurant and the staff is waiting there, ready to watch Dylan attempt to break the record and he says the staff has totally hooked them up with 32 dim sum dumplings waiting for them when they got there he was a little nervous because the entire resort showed up and he goes the second I started I realized there was absolutely no chance I was going to be able to do this I almost threw up
Starting point is 00:35:38 in like five dim sums in it was pretty impossible I don't know how the winner of this world record has ever done this. I'm not a quitter, so I decided to keep trying to find some random world records to try to beat once he gets home. Fantastic. You would never be able to do this. Sounds like a choking hazard. It does. It really, really does. Because those dim suns what's in the middle of them? Beef. Yeah. So it's like, it's not a meatball, but. And how chewy. Yeah, too chewy. The, the, what is the dumpling casing is? Just, Yeah, everything about this. Don't like it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Dangerous. I'm glad Dylan survives. Yeah. All right. Well, that's that. We appreciate you guys being here. And again, tomorrow we'll have Raven Gates on. I'm so excited for that conversation.
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