The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - First Date Jitters

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

Amy & TJ are getting all the tea from Kelly Bensimon on her first IRL date with Mr. Tennis after being set up by her producers! Was there flirting? Kissing? Did he smell good? Were there... sparks?! Amy & TJ are asking all the need-to-know questions! Email us at: IDOPOD@iheartradio.com or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763)Follow I Do, Part 2 on Instagram and TikTokSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Bottom line, if you got it wrong the first time, this is the podcast for you. And we love talking about hope and second chances and third chances. And that's what this is all about. And today, some of your host are here, Amy Robock and my partner, my love, T.J. Holmes. And look, we do get to talk to a lot of people. But, man, we have a very special. person to talk to today. I have to said when they first came to us about, I do part two, and we said, okay, it sounds fun. They gave us a couple of names. And then they told us about
Starting point is 00:03:08 Kelly bin Simone. I was like, okay, cool, fine. And went back and watched her season. Yes. Our seasons as a real housewife. Yep. Yep. And got one impression. But then when we met her, she is absolutely one of the highlights of agreeing to do, I do part two. She is just, this is a compliment, Kelly. You're a hoot. That's a compliment, okay? She's a hoot. She's full of life and enthusiasm. And I would just go with this. You're passionate, Kelly. And I appreciate someone who's invested. And that means sometimes when things are good and sometimes when things aren't so good, but you know exactly where you stand. And I appreciate people like, that you don't mince words you don't pretend you say what you think and you mean what you say and so
Starting point is 00:04:01 we like people like you kelly oh amy you guys are the best i mean you know i started this with you guys and so i i'm actually really excited to talk to you because i've changed i know people are like i've changed no but i genuinely and inherently feel a fundamental change not only in the way that I see myself, the way that I talk about myself, but the way that I handle myself with other people and the expectations I have for myself and the expectations I have for other people. What prompted the change, Kelly? It was a very cathartic moment. We've seen some very strange things. We've seen some like Alice in Wonderland. I'm like, I can't unsay that. No, but you've been really open. You've been really open about your love journey. And we actually are coming to you for
Starting point is 00:04:58 this podcast because we want an update. You actually had a first date in real life. You were set up by one of our producers here on Ido Part 2. And we cannot wait to hear the details because this was weeks in the making, correct? Yes. I mean, we've had a lot of fun. You know, Jana, Kramer and I have had so much fun. She, I like literally was DMing movie stars with her and, yeah, I've been new friends that we've been, Cheryl Burke has been a really good new friend of mine. I've made some other new friends on the podcast. We've been doing all these fun and wild like antics to meet, meet new guys. But actually my executive producer, she's like, I have this great guy.
Starting point is 00:05:43 for you. And there's a reason I want you to meet him and you're going to tell me why after you met him. So we start talking and texting first and then I'm chatting on the phone for the past like two weeks. I'm stellar human, highly educated, beautiful family, respectful to his ex-wife, really good, genuine father. You guys are you guys are great parents. You can really appreciate that. a very stellar human. And, you know, it's interesting because she's like, how was the date? And I was, you know, saying we were kind of, I'm going to talk about that. But before we even talk about the date, the thing that for me is just so wildly important is that I, Kelly Coulor and Ben Simone, can finally date a stellar human. That's awesome. I have confidence to actually date someone who I respect. And I think that is something that is so new for me. And I'm just, you know, very, very happy that I got to meet Mr. Tennis.
Starting point is 00:06:56 You know, it also, Kelly, call me crazy. This doesn't sound like a transition. What you're explaining here is something that would happen overnight. How long have you been going through this thing? I mean, has your entire dating life been that other Kelly who was maybe dating someone that you shouldn't have been dating, and now here you are. But that has to be a years-long process to get to this point. Well, I mean, it's been really full-on since I met you guys last fall. No, seriously. So we prompted it. You are so, you know what? This is why we're here. We're here
Starting point is 00:07:34 to do good work. Oh, seriously. And, you know, it was really interesting because, like, you know, talked about how, you know, you met me and, you know, you, you know, you watched my shows and then you, then you met me in real life. And, you know, when I sat down with you, with you guys for the, and I've been interviewed by a lot of people and I just felt immediately very drawn to you guys. And I, my executive producer, she was like, when you first did that interview with them, she's like, I could tell you really wanted to tell, you know, the, two of you more. But I was just so, like, wound up and so guarded that I was afraid. I mean, I was even, like, I wasn't even looking up. The entire podcast, I'm looking down like,
Starting point is 00:08:25 Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't look off. You know what? You know what it is, though, Kelly? I think when you've lived a lot of your life, or at least the life that people know of you in front of a camera, and you know you're viewed through that lens only. You know people are looking at. it perhaps maybe your weakest or your least proud of moments and defining you by that, you start defining yourself by that. You don't feel like you're worthy. You don't feel like you can look up because people have seen you not just at your best, shining amazing self, but maybe at your, not your worst moment, but at your less than best moments. And that's tough to know that they live on and people can watch them and then form opinions of you before they even meet you.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's not a fun space to be in. Right. And I appreciate that. I think, You never hear the good because you're not really focusing on the good. All you do is hear the bad. You know, people are like, oh, my God, you're awful, you're this, you're that. And so I was just wildly insecure for so long, for obvious reasons. When you spend a lot of time by yourself, it's not like you're like, great work. You're awesome. Good job.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You know, it's like you're just like, you know, a one-man band. And, you know, my ex-husband was significantly older and we weren't, you know, we didn't have that kind of Virgin River love. where, you know, you see people and they're like, how is your day? I just really care about how you feel. My ex-hism was French. He didn't even know. Was he going to say, oh, your feelings? How are your feelings?
Starting point is 00:09:51 He never asked that. I love that you made a Virgin River reference. I'm obsessed with that. Also just such a false narrative of what life is or love is. But anyway, still get sucked into the narrative of it all. That's hilarious. So anyway, my point is then from that on from that, And, you know, moving on to dating different people, like, you know, being a television and
Starting point is 00:10:13 dating people that were not the right people from me. But, you know, in the housewives world, you know, you guys are in the news. We're in the funny business. So it's like, you know, people treat you because they respect you and they, they can't wait to hear what's coming out of your mouth. For us, it's like, it's a show. What's happening? You know, whatever. We became both, Kelly, just so you know. True. I thought it's true. But I mean, just for the birth, like, you know, the 90% is like the good news. And so I guess just from being a part of that narrative, which was very difficult for me to navigate and also be raising two kids alone, I became, I was around people that were like, if they liked me, I was like, oh, they liked me. Of course, you know, I wasn't like, I'm going to wait. I'm going to kind of figure out, you know, what are the things that I am looking for. in my life. And so I kind of gravitated towards those love bombers, you know, the super fast.
Starting point is 00:11:15 We're going to get married tomorrow. All of that kind of nonsense. And, you know, now we know of them as red flags, but like I am focused on the green flags. I am focused on all of the good news. The slow and steady wins the race. The stellar humans, the good news, like the good bears. I don't, you know, I'm not interested in anyone who wants to, like, there's no song and dance. I don't want, you know, that's, that's the past.
Starting point is 00:11:45 All right, so let's talk about Mr. Green Flag, I guess. We call them Mr. Tennis, but he's going to be Mr. Green Flag as well. Only, how long were you all talking, and you just met, but how long before the meeting had you all been going back and forth on text and phone? So two weeks, we've been talking for about two, two and a half weeks. That's it. Do enough we, texting, FaceTiming? No FaceTiming. No FaceTime calling.
Starting point is 00:12:12 How long are the phone calls? I didn't want to FaceTime. I didn't want to FaceTime because I didn't want to, I didn't want to be like, oh, I'm going to look at him and I'm going to feel a certain way. I just want to meet him in real life because when you meet people in real life, it's like the way they smell, the way they look. You know, on a FaceTime, it's like people have their phones, right, left in their face. know what they're looking like. They're like driving a car. I mean, sorry, DMP. People are doing things that are like, you're like, wait, is that his nose? What is that? Like, um, so I just wanted
Starting point is 00:12:46 to meet him in a real way. And, you know, just to get take, again, I'm like all focused on like taking my time. Like being like, I'm being very like cool. Okay. Well, Kelly, we know we saw the, you saw his picture at least. You knew what he looked like. How did that compare to what? showed up? Very, very similar. You know, very athletic. And that's a good thing, right? That is.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It's very good. The cold packfish thing is like, you know, it's like the new narrative. So he looked exactly like he did in the photos. And tall, dark and handsome. Handsome. Very athletic. He really is like a really, really good tennis player, like very, very good. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:13:36 too. Like, I love that he has like a sport that he really loves. And that's not just about like what restaurant he went to, but more like what he's doing to better himself. I like, I love that. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast. So we'll find out soon. This person writes, My boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
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Starting point is 00:17:17 And they shows up. Did you, where did you first meet? Did you meet in a public place? Did you pick him up from the airport? How did that all go down? So he came to my building to meet me to go, to go to dinner, and the doorman just let him into the whole, which they never do, and they let him come down the homeway. I think that they were thinking he was somebody else.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I don't think that they were thinking that he was like a date. They were like, he's like, I'm here to see Kelly. And they're like, oh, yeah. Wow, he got some security concerns. Or he looks so, you know, impressive that people just assumed that he belonged there. I'm going to try that, Kelly, as your building. They're going to be paparazzi shots of me in handcuffs. he literally was like at my door and the doorbell rang and I'm like um no one ever rings my doorbell so I was like okay so I opened the door and it was hidden okay that's awkward and awesome what happened what'd you do I hugged him oh that's awesome that's good I hugged him because I was so happy to see him all right and then what not gonna lie I was taken back I was not I was expecting
Starting point is 00:18:25 like for me like walked down the hallway give myself a little moment man like and then you know have him like see me like the big reveal but no he came and like ding dong i was like what wait kelly wasn't that better i love that you were caught off guard you didn't have a chance to try to get yourself together and you just answered as the big old beautiful bouncy lovely kelly ben simon here i am that's awesome totally that is me yeah thank you bouncy very bouncy Yes, and that was. And I had come, you know, I was in work clothes. So, like, I mean, normally I would be like, one of my really good friends,
Starting point is 00:19:05 she was like, dress super casual, like wear a T-shirt and jeans. I'd have time to change. And so I was like, you know, just work clothes. And so we went to go have dinner at this restaurant called the Corner Bar. And he was very polite and very interested to learn about Soho and, you know, where I live and what I like to do. and, you know, very chatty. And on this other podcast, this woman told me she was like, I like to ask a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And I'm like, I'm not really like a question person. Like, I like to have a conversation, you know, like you guys are asking me questions today. But normally you just are like, how are you? And then you just kind of organically speak. You don't sit. There's no like waiting for the follow up question like normal life. I mean, I'm not like that. You don't want it to feel like a job interview.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That's what she said. That's what she does. She says he does that. And I'm just like, I'm like, oh, you like red shoes? What kind of red shoes? Like, how was your law degree? Like, you know what I mean? Were you attracted to him at first sight? How did he smell? How did he look? He doesn't really have a smell. I was, I was, I thought that was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, L.A. He's probably going to be like wearing some kind of like Tom Ford scent of the day. No. Like, like, I was, I was like, we. Like ivory soap? Like nothing? like just very clean simple like nothing um i was like okay and then um dressed like very you know kind of like a cool p coat on and sneakers and like converse sneakers and jeans and he's very casual um yeah i mean his date you know he's a day job he's a lawyer so i think that he was coming to new york and he wanted to be like casual and cool meanwhile i'm all dressed up wait so you didn't dress you didn't change into the jeans and the t-shirt I have time.
Starting point is 00:20:58 What? Wait a minute. And when he came to the door, did you invite him in or he had to stand outside in the hole? Well, my oldest, my youngest daughter was in the apartment. So I was like, hey, move out. Oh, my goodness. I wish I could have seen this scene. But you're at the dinner.
Starting point is 00:21:16 If you didn't interview him, kind of what was the back and forth, the conversation, a lot of laughter, where the drinks flowing. Give us an idea of how that went. Oh, yes. So we went to the corner bar. We're at the bar. this was one thing that he did that I thought was very sweet. The bar at the corner bar is like this highly coveted bar
Starting point is 00:21:33 and they were going to give us two seats as you walk in. And it's been very, very, very cold in New York. And so he was like, oh, no, no, no, I don't like those seats. I want seats that are over there. And so I just thought that was like he was making an effort to create an environment that was, you know, calm for him. but also, like, I wasn't sitting in the cold, which I thought that was really sweet. Because most guys would be just be like, we'll sit there.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Those are two. We're available. We'll sit there. I feel bad complaining, obviously. Well, it's not a complaint. That's okay. We are in the world right now, but. But once you got to chatting it up, what was that conversation?
Starting point is 00:22:12 Again, was it, could you tell we have chemistry? You laughed. It was easy, not an effort. Yes, very easy. A lot of chemistry. you know, I could tell that he really liked me. We just get along really well. We were talking and we're having fun talking.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And he even said, he was like, he has two children, younger children. He said the one thing about me that he was nervous that I wasn't going to show up, that he was going to fly to New York and that I was going to, you know, that he was going to, like I wasn't going to be available. Wow. And did he come just to me? you? He didn't have business in New York? Well, he had a meeting on Friday morning that he arranged. Okay. But he made the meeting because he wanted to meet you. The trip was to go and meet you.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And he was there all weekend? Yes. All right. So what did you do? Like, that's a lot of pressure. It's your hometown. So what did you guys do for the weekend? And yes, it is really cold in New York. We can attest to that. Yes. So really cold in New York. We just walked around, you know, we went to a really fun bar we had the rest you know we were at the restaurant having it was really fun and then um he's also very chatty with other people which i liked um like there was someone that was talking about hey callie and he was like oh you want me take your picture he wasn't like you know a jerk and it was like why is he taking your photo like that's so awkward or like saying things like don't you hate that i when guys say don't you hate that i'm like that's part of my job i thought that was
Starting point is 00:23:46 very like easy cool um so the things that that normally guys would do. He did not do. He was very easygoing. And just the conversation that he was having, he's like, he's like, well, when I, when I'm dropping my daughter off at, you know, lessons, you know, I can talk to you about like, oh my God, you know, the traffic was crazy and, you know, she was upset and she was doing this and this was happening. And he's like, you just didn't, you were, you were never like, oh my God, call me back in 32 seconds. I was like, oh, you know, call me back when you're done. And, you know, sometimes if I say I'm going to call you back, it could be five minutes, it could be four hours.
Starting point is 00:24:22 And he was just, is very cool about that. And he was very, he liked that I was easygoing about that as well. He said that being a single dad is difficult because a lot of women take that, you know, time away as being, you know, like inconsiderate towards them. And I just think, like, people are busy. And I know he'll be like, hey, I'll text you or. so there was that there was that there was that kind of bond that we like had as well about just being easygoing with each other and not be so demanding all right so when you said goodbye
Starting point is 00:25:01 for the evening if you said goodbye for the evening I don't want to assume or presume anything but was there a kiss yes was it good he's like soft lips yeah very very like sweet also like I'm not the kind of person like listen different people are different people are People do different things. Like, again, like, Virgin River, I was watching the scene last night where this girl, like, hops on top of the bar and, like, jumps on top of Preacher
Starting point is 00:25:27 and, like, starts making out with him. Like, I am not that kind of person. I love. I'm very like, I'm like, if you want to touch my hand, I'm like, oh, that was nice. Another Virgin River reference, yes. I don't get any of these references. I know Preacher.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, I know that scene. He would never. Preacher? Preacher is one of the characters. He's the bar. He's the guy who runs the bar in the kitchen. Yes. Jack's restaurant. But anyway, right. So, and he's, you know, I am not an assertive person like that. I will not, you know, my friend Luann, she's like, she was giving me tips on dating and she's like, put your napkin on fire. Send a note to the bar, to the, to your waiter that you think that guy's hot. Like, these are things I would not do. No, I would never do that either. First of all, said anything on fire? No, but she's like, yeah, I just make a little scene. I'm like, I'm 5'10. Like, you cannot miss me in a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:26:26 You are the scene, Kelly. Yes, you are. No, no, I didn't mean that. I didn't feel like that. It's like, I'm a talking of water. If you miss me, you're like, you know. You know, what is, but you, you had the date that night, but was there any other date time? Did you have a second date?
Starting point is 00:26:42 He was there for the weekend, right? So what else did you do besides the dinner that night? Did you take them somewhere? So then the morning. Okay. Okay. So we went after the, after the restaurant, we went to this really fun bar for N.A. Which is like the best bar, cool scene.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And like everyone's having a great time, like the bartender who I know. She's like, he's so handsome. He's so cute. And she was asked him all about L.A. And everyone in the whole bar was talking to him about L.A. And it was just, he was having a lot of fun. He was having a lot of fun. And then he walked me home and he gave me another little kiss.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And that, but it was polite. It was, like, very, like, polite and, like, well done. Like, if he had stuck his tongue down my throat, I probably would have been, like, Ew. What do you do? Ew. Yeah, total. Ew.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Like, I would have been like, what are you doing? Wow. And then the next morning, you text me, he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm going to dance body. He's like, okay, I'm going to pick you up and I'm going to walk you there. And he walked me to my exercise class. And then went to have a, he went to have brunch at. square diner and then met me and then we walked home and I had to work again and then he
Starting point is 00:27:53 met me later on and we had like a little lunch like a salad at St. Ambrose and we just walked around and then he wanted to get tennis sneakers because I told him when he came because he's a big tennis player I said you should definitely play tennis at Vanderbilt you have to play tennis there it's the coolest coolest court so he got 10 we was like I need to get tennis shoes so we went to the Wilson store on Broadway. Amy's like, what are you talking about? What is going on here? They have a tennis court in the back of the store, which we discovered.
Starting point is 00:28:24 So we're like literally playing tennis. He taught me how to throw football. We were like, you know, shooting basketball. It was really, like, fun. I felt like I was on The Bachelor. I was like, wait a minute, this is like. Kelly, this is cool. We've gotten to know you a little bit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And yes, as you described. our first meeting in that first episode we taped. We agree. But you are on fire right now, looking at you, and if folks can hear it in your voice, I'm sure, but you are excited as well. You should. And look at a little shoulder. You see that? She looks smitten. Oh, look at it. Smitten. That's the word. You look smitten and you should stay there until further notice. That's so nice. Because it could have been awkward. It could have gone sideways. You could have realized there was no chemistry. So this is like, it sounds like best case scenario. Do you, what? I've got a question in here. Went out again. Went out that night. You went out again that night. Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Wait, what happened that night? Oh, sorry. Oh, okay. Continue. There's more. We went out that night and we went to this really great restaurant. It was a big restaurant. It was so fun. Then we went to this bar that was next door. My daughter was like, Mom, you took him to this place. He's going to love it and it like makes you look really cool. Hey, what place is this? Can we ask? you know, KYU, and then went to Temple Bar afterwards. We're not cool. No, we're not cool. I don't know KYU.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I've heard a Temple Bar. Yes, Temple Bar, yes, but KYU is like, it's like Korean fried chicken, it's a cauliflower. It's amazing and a very cool vibe. So we were there, we're having so much fun and like we both were like, we like, we like to, you know, he likes to listen to like different conversations that people are happening. And I'm like that too. And I'm like, oh, do you hear that? He's like, yes. And we're like chatting.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We're like talking to each other, but we're talking about the people next to us. And it was really, he's very fun. He's a really fun guy. And then we went to Tebow Bar and he walked me home again. Then we had a little kiss. And then he was like, I, you know, I wish you would come over and hang out and watch TV. And I was like, nope, not yet. And he was in a hotel.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah, he was staying at a really nice hotel. But I'm like, I'm not, that's not like, again, like, I'm just not like that. I just, I mean, even if I'm like super, super, super, you know, this guy's a really, you know, spectacular. I said, he's a stellar human. So it's like, I'm not going to screw it up by being like, oh my God, let me go hang out on your, you know, kiss you and be like weird and then like, have it be weird. And like, I'm taking my time. That's good. I love that. I'm on my timeline. I'm not on anyone else. Are there plans for a second date? Are you going to come out to California? How did you guys leave it?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I mean, yeah, that would be great. I would love to come out to California and say hi to him and see how he is and see his real life. And it's interesting because my friends were, because they were like, have you ever done, you know, had a long distance relationship? And I've never dated anyone long distance and never dated anyone that wasn't, that was so far, that was far away, period, or like out of the same city. And so it was just interesting to hear him, to hear him kind of like try to figure out. like how we were going to date, how we were going to meet up, where we're going to meet up. And then all the advice for my friends are like, well, you guys could meet, you know, in Chicago. And I'm like, I don't want to be in a relationship where we're constantly on vacation.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Like, I want to be in real life. I want to see like, I want to walk around like Century City and like I want to, I don't know. And it's winter. We don't want to meet anybody in Chicago right now. That's no good, Kelly. I was thinking more like Miami, New Orleans. Right. But, Kelly, what is, you can't let, right?
Starting point is 00:32:12 I know he just, just left. So you just saw him. But there's not a plan yet. Do you all have a tentative plan? Like, for sure. The next time you see each other will be you in L.A. Right. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:32:24 He wants to do that. And, you know, I, and he was like, I want to, you know, he's like, I want to do things that we can, like, have things to talk about. So I was like, let's read the same book. And we can chat about it and just try to, like, have, like, just a different narrative versus, like, how is your day? no idea what you're talking about. Oh, how was your day? I have no idea what you're talking about. I just wanted to have like some kind of conversations that were like about things that we're doing versus what everyone else is doing. Kelly says, have you seen that last episode of Virgin River? Yeah. He says, no, I haven't. He should. Kelly, you and I can do a Virgin River club. I would love
Starting point is 00:32:58 to dissect that. It's funny though. It's such a girl. I'm sure guys out there like it too, but it's such a girl thing. It's very funny. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Well, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. It's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD...
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Starting point is 00:35:28 The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. Get in here. Today, we have a very special guest with us. Our new super secret bestie is the divo of the people. The diva of the people. I'm just like text your ex.
Starting point is 00:36:00 My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for your. yourself. Okay. That's us. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. In each episode, we'll talk about love, friendship, heart breaks, men, and of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Michael Tura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I have here, do you want to already have pet names for one another?
Starting point is 00:36:37 I told him that he was trouble. Oh, his name's trouble? That's not a good pet name. And then he called me Malibu. Okay, that's a good one. Malibu is cute. I like that. Why trouble?
Starting point is 00:36:50 I like Malibu Barbie, even though I'm a Burnett. Okay. You're more Malibu than I am. I'm Robs. T.J. gave me a pet name or a nickname. What is it? It's Robs. My name's Amy Robach, but he's the only one who called
Starting point is 00:37:04 me robes. He called me robes on the air when we were at ABC News together. He just, he never called me by my first name, ever. I cannot remember. And I never saw you as a Barbie. She's, she's tall. That's right. I'm only 5'5. But Kelly, what are we, um, oh my goodness, this sounds so exciting about the guy. Look, you were giving, you came on, you've been a celebrity mentor to a lot of people that, uh, that we've had on and who are trying to find love. Um, What have you now learned through your experience that you're ready to pass on? Because you were giving advice earlier on before you kind of came around, before you became the whole new, full new Kelly. So what advice now are you able to give, given the new Kelly and the new experience that you're going through?
Starting point is 00:37:57 Well, it's just, it's interesting because I've been doing so much talking about relationships. And so with him, I talked a lot about relationships. And he really liked that. He liked hearing, he liked talking about his relationships. I think that he appreciated that I was open to hearing about whatever he wanted to share with what he was doing and what he was going on with him. Like, I think that that is something that's new to me. I mean, I'm not, I've never been the person that's like, tell me about your ex. I can't wait to hear all about her.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I'm like, I don't care. Like, I literally was like, I do not care. And I just been, I dated, you know, men who have had such wild exes that like I really have zero interest in hearing about people's exes. But I asked him because I just was like, you know what, I'm not going to be that person. I'm not going to be closed off. I'm not going to be judgmental. You know, everybody has, everybody has people in their, in their orbit.
Starting point is 00:39:00 And I also, just like I said, be at the beginning, you know, the top of this, just about how, like, I just have more self-respect. And so it's easy to say to somebody, oh, you have an ex. I'm sure she's so stupid and ugly and like, like, I used to say like, oh, my God, your ex-wife, she's so skinny. She hasn't eaten since the ice age. Those were the things that I used to say, which are awful. And I don't want to say those anymore. I love that. I just don't want to have that narrative.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Well, it's about you. It's not about their past. It's not about comparing. It's not about the comparison or the contrast of what he had versus where he is now and all of that. And that's incredible growth. I'm curious. And it was interesting. I'm not going to interrupt you, and I'm apologizing, but it's interesting that because I didn't come to, when we were talking about his exes, what he was doing with his life.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And because I didn't come with, like, defensiveness or negativity, there was just like a conversation. Yeah. Like you and I having a conversation versus like, you know, me being like competing with someone I don't even know. Does that make sense? Yeah. I feel like that's what happens. Or feeling threatened by someone who seems like they have it all together. Who's a stranger? Right. Who's a stranger? Right. Correct. And we don't know anything. Like they have their relationship, but their relationship is their relationship. And my relationship with him is my relationship. And I just want to keep that, you know, how it is. I have a question for you, Kelly, For people who are listening, for folks who are listening, and they are just starting off, maybe they're in your boat. They've just started to date someone new. And they really like them. How often do you text them?
Starting point is 00:40:39 How often do you call them? How often do you, like, do you wait before you return the text? Are you still playing little games or are you just being vulnerable and open and sharing your feelings? Or are you withhold? Like, I'm just curious because that's always the dance. People don't know what to do and what the right thing is and what, what, what, what, would be a turnoff, what would be a turn on? Is that all in your head, or are you just going with your heart? Well, I mean, of course it is. Like, you know, I'm a single female. I'm been single, you know, for 15
Starting point is 00:41:07 years. So I, and, you know, it's interesting because most people are like, oh my God, you've been single so long. You're just a player. I'm like, no, no, no, not a player. That's one thing I'm not. I'm just very, like, whatever I feel like. If I feel like calling you, I feel like texting you. I mean, I was like thinking I was just because it was so nice I wanted to write him like a little thank you know just thanking him for you know I'm just a very uh open and like I'm very like loving um but that does not mean that I'm just a I'm just a very love loving person um so I just I just you know I text him things but I'm also you know dating other people so I'm not it's not like he's the only person that I'm dating. And I just want to be open to myself and to my new journey. Why, he's not the only
Starting point is 00:42:05 one you're dating, but why is he the only one we're talking about, Kelly? You know why? You know what we're talking about him? Because my executive producer set me up with her best friend's brother. Okay. But is this guy, is he the, is he a frontrunner though, Kelly? Is he a front runner? Yeah. But that's my point. That's my point. Like, he is someone that I'm. being introduced to by someone that I respect. And so I am definitely giving this person, you know, like open eyes, like, you know, let's see what happens. You know, it's not like I don't feel need to be guarded because I am interested in him
Starting point is 00:42:45 and I, and he's already been vetted so there's a trust. Whereas everybody else at I'm meeting, I don't necessarily know them or I know them kind of through someone, you know, the last guy that I was dating was younger and he was very sweet, but he was like love bombing me and saying like after like the first date, he was like, we're getting married, you're my person, which was very kind. And I appreciate that. But, you know, his actions, you know, actions speak louder than words. And so you can just say how much you love me. But if you're not like making plans, making, you know, trying to make situations, doing stuff, that does not make me feel like you're in love with me and
Starting point is 00:43:27 you want to get married to me. So I'm like learning my lessons, slowly but surely. I'm going to make a lot of mistakes, you guys. I'm going to fall through a lot of holes. So you might have to pull me out. Sounds like you're doing great. It sounds like you're doing great, Kelly. My only, my last thing is how does he feel about dating you with you telling your entire dating story essentially to the public. So I asked him that. I said, what is it? How do you feel about he was like, he was like, that's, I think that's amazing. That's great. And he has, you know, he's a lot of confidence too. And that's another thing. Like, he has a lot of confidence. You know, he's not intimidated by what I'm doing. He just is happy for me and excited for me to, you know, he just said,
Starting point is 00:44:12 he said to me, it's like, I'm just so happy to have met you, which is so nice. That's a very sweet thing to say. And it sounds like he followed up with actions. Exactly. And actions speak louder than words. So to answer Amy, what you're, what your, your question, actions speak louder than words. And I feel like if you like someone, you know, I mean, I wouldn't be sending like heart emojis every two seconds, but, you know, thinking of you or, you know, hope your meeting went well or, but not like, what do we do tomorrow? Do you need a coffee? Should I come make you up? Like that would make me, I mean, that would scare anyone, you know, I feel like, you're like, you're right.
Starting point is 00:44:48 oh my god what if it hasn't been made clear fellas do not love bomb kelly bin simone okay right you know when you're like in school and you're like writing down and you're like kelly love does it's this is like i'm in my 50s i can't be doing you know it's like you have to be like be open to like everything Kelly i suspect that when you were a kid in school you didn't do that either you weren't writing little notes Kelly loves it just doesn't sing she watches Virgin River. Oh, yeah, okay, my bad. That's my bad.
Starting point is 00:45:20 It's like a die-hard romance. Yes, we love love. When you told me you watch Virgin River, I know. Okay. I know. I missed it. I know. I missed it.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Well, Kelly, we are so happy for you. And I know everyone listening is excited too because it's one of those things when you hear something good happened for someone else, someone who's been searching, someone who's been single deliberately for 15 years, finding something that could lead to something that there's that little spark, that little excite. It's, it's hope for everyone else too, that, yes, it's never too late. It's, and I totally agree with that, Amy, and I appreciate that. And it's also, like, you know, I always talk about, like, there's, like, two kinds of energy. There's kinetic and there's frenetic. And when, like, something good happens, more good things
Starting point is 00:46:05 are going to happen. And so whether it's Mr. Tennis or Mr. Soccer or whomever, I just feel like he is such a, he's really he's such a I will I will if whether we end up together or we don't end up together I'm just very grateful for what happened over the weekend because it's really been good for me and just so healthy and I've never felt like healthy in an emotional romantic space before oh Kelly that war really we are huge fans of yours not because of anything you did on TV but when you walked into that I heart studio in Manhattan we just fell in with you from the g you were vulnerable with us and we did we i think you got comfortable with us and we were comfortable with you and it all worked out but we just adore you and appreciate
Starting point is 00:46:56 any time we get to spend so congrats to you and mr tennis and it sounds like there's a mr soccer mr golf a mr badminton it might be a mr basketball but whatever whatever you're doing enjoy your dating time kelly oh mr basket oh kelly thank you we will talk to you very very soon and folks If you're out there and you want to be dating like Kelly and you want some dating advice, you can call or email us, you can follow us on the socials. All the information will be in the show notes. Make sure to rate and review the podcast as well. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:27 So that's going to wrap it up for this edition of I Do Part 2, an IHeart podcast where falling in love is the main objective. Have a great day, everyone. I'm Amy Robach. Oh, and I'm DJ Holmes, yeah. Yeah, I figured we should say our names. Okay, we'll see y'all. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with A.J. Jacobs.
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