The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast - For Crying Out Loud with Genevieve Parisi

Episode Date: October 6, 2022

It’s our second trip to Paradise this week and the tears are flowing! Ben and Ashley discuss Romeo nearly breaking down crying because no one wants his rose! What happened??   We talk to Genevieve ...Parisi who just got back from the beach! She and Ashley have a bonding moment over their deeply emotional experiences in Paradise, and they clear up some misconceptions the audience might have about what goes down on the sand.   Plus, Ben shares a shocking revelation he had about Genevieve after meeting her in person for the first time!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. My boyfriend's professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, luckily, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend's been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
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Starting point is 00:02:37 To hear this podcast and more, open your free IHeartRadio app. Search All the Smoke and listen now. This is the Ben and Ashley I, Almost Famous Podcast with IHartRadio. Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley, and it's Ben. He's back to recap episode three. a bachelor in paradise yeah sorry about that i was i'm in nashville right now you may and hope
Starting point is 00:03:05 united has board meetings and so i was in national i'm in nashville at the meetings uh but we have a little break and i said hey if i'm going to have a little time from the meetings what other thing to do then get on here and talk bachelor in paradise to my friend actually we haven't sat down i mean we've kind of like missed each other uh throughout the fall season uh obviously i was in Vegas. You were in Italy. We got to catch up on that. And then now it's kind of end of the quarter board meeting season. So I'm going to kind of be in and out for the next two weeks, but then we'll be right back at it. We're still watching Paradise. We still enjoy Paradise. This is, I'd say the momentum for Paradise feels like it's definitely picking up after episode
Starting point is 00:03:46 three. And today we're going to have Genevieve on, one of the star of the show, I would say. Seriously, definitely one of the stars. Yeah, I like Genevieve. She was in Vegas. Vegas with us, Ashley. And I kind of mentioned this for you the last time we're together. But I said, I could just see what kind of person she would be on the beat by who she is in person. And some might love her. I think she's going to have a massive following. Some might not like her. She definitely reminds me of a lot of the characters that we remember from Paradise of the past. Totally. Yeah. She is like not afraid to be dramatic or have a lot of feelings really fast, be vocal about them, and I love that. So we'll have Jeddivian a little bit,
Starting point is 00:04:32 and we'll talk all about her storyline with her, of course. But before we do, before we get to her storyline, which was a huge part of this episode, let's talk about some other things that went down during this episode. So first we start with the cocktail party. That's where we left off. And I guess like there's a couple things going on, of course. One is that Jacob is basically the bachelor in paradise he is probably the guy with the most rose up for grabs you know like he has no firm connection to anyone and we see lace and kira and haley particularly going after him no big loves uh i don't think coming coming out of any of those relationships but he's got to give his rose to somebody did you see this one coming
Starting point is 00:05:25 Ashley. I mean, I think as a viewer, we see a guy show up to the beach, shirtless, very little his body. And you're thinking, this guy is just there. I mean, here's the deal. Who here is now, actually? I kind of didn't finish my thoughts there. So let me finish my thought and then finish my second thought. My first thought is he shows up the beach pretty much nude. It's a lot of attention, a lot of laughs. And we think, hey, that's for show, right? He's the one guy willing to do this. However, we saw last season with Kenny workout really well. And now we're kind of seen it with Jake. And now, like you said, the love connection might not be there.
Starting point is 00:05:59 But he does get the attention I think he was seeking. And he's not without some affection. And so is this the new strategy? The guy that shows with the beach naked that's ripped, gets all the kind of like the attention, I guess. Well, it's great for a week that he has the rose, but not necessarily the weeks that he doesn't have the rose because you do. usually need to have a pretty good connection going forward,
Starting point is 00:06:28 or at least a really solid friendship. And I don't even see him having a really solid friendship with any of these girls. But it is quite entertaining when we see Kira try to woo him over with the petals or whatever, like the big tropical leaves on all of her private parts. It's revealing. I mean, we can say that, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But it seems like the couples we have going into this rose ceremony, are Michael and Jasmine, Serene and Brandon, and then Andrew and Teddy. Now, Andrew and Teddy totally fall apart later in the episode, but we'll get set then. Another big cocktail party storyline is who is going to give Victoria a rose?
Starting point is 00:07:14 You know Victoria is going to get a rose, but is it going to be from Justin, who she went on the date with, who still has a love triangle with Genevieve, or is it going to be from Johnny who kind of comes out of right left field we don't see them interacting at all
Starting point is 00:07:31 really maybe a little bit in the episode in which she arrives but she decided to take Justin that was who she was going after and all of a sudden she has interest in Johnny but he's in a pretty solid-ish thing with Hunter how do you feel about the fact
Starting point is 00:07:50 that Johnny just abandons Hunter and gives Victoria like the uh the siren this is like the sexy siren arose after just really one sit down yeah well i think we've seen it every season with paradise and we've talked about this before you're in paradise to date right you i mean i don't know what the it makes paradise beautiful is the boundaries and typical traditional ways of dating are kind of have to be thrown out the window right you're going to have to go on multiple dates with multiple different people, and you're going to have to live in the same place with those people at the same time. It's going to feel very intimate and very
Starting point is 00:08:32 flustered and very confusing. That's what makes paradise interesting. I don't necessarily mind the dating part of things and saying, okay, I'm into you, interested in you. But I'm going to try and see if maybe somebody else's my attention more. I mean, I feel like every couple that's worked, Ashley, I mean, I bet you could probably call me out on this and say, wrong, but it feels like most of the time, couples that really work at the end have split apart for a season or a couple of episodes, and then they come back together and they realize just how special that other person is. That's my thought. Are you saying that you think that Johnny may regret this decision? I don't know. You don't know yet. Okay. Well, we'll find out
Starting point is 00:09:18 soon. We do also have Romeo hanging around and Romeo is Romeo he's like basically crying at the beginning of the episode because he has nobody to give a rose to
Starting point is 00:09:34 nobody wants his rose it's pretty crazy to see people like being like no I do not want to and accept a rose from you you've messed up so much poor guy But also not poor guy Like somebody said he got himself into the situation
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's true Very Blake Horsman-esque Oh we can't compare Romeo's actions to That was a little fling off camera Versus him sleeping with a whole ton of people At stagecoach Fair enough
Starting point is 00:10:07 Okay maybe not a ton of people but two I get that but it is It does feel very similar To what emotions are being Like people upset with him because of this same stuff, right? Stuff was happening behind the scene. I still don't have a problem with it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It's going to happen. I don't know when as cast members, like, you're going to talk to somebody else in between your season and paradise, especially when there's a year or so. You're out there dating. You're going to events. Like, I mean, I'm just happy that we get to watch it on Paradise. Yeah. Ashley, you did kind of skip over the Justin part.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I wanted to ask you last week. And we're obviously going to talk to a few guests as we go. Are you surprised that Justin's getting the attention or kind of, I feel like he's one of the top people on the beach. Yeah. Women really like him. Are you surprised by that at all? Or did you expect that coming into the season?
Starting point is 00:10:57 Am I surprised that women like Justin? No, I'm not surprised. I was expecting that. He's got a great personality and he's very cute. I liked being around him during our time there. I also think that we have to talk. Well, I want to address what you were just saying before you jumped to Justin.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Romeo, like, the problem with Romeo, Jared and I were talking on the podcast yesterday, is that he tells Kira, I don't want to, I'm not going to be with you because I really do want to put, like, my eggs in Jill's basket. And then...
Starting point is 00:11:35 That sounds terrible. Yeah, okay. And then an hour, you know, hours later is like, hi, Brittany, I don't want my eggs in Jill's basket anymore. I want them in yours, and I'm going to continue with that comparison. So he just is all over the place, and that is why he got in trouble. It's not really for what ever happened off camera before, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah, I get it. I mean, I do. I understand it. I don't know. I mean, how else could he have handled that, Ashley? You've been on the beach. You're on the beach this season. Obviously, you're a trusted voice and a voice of wisdom to the people trying to pursue each other on the beach.
Starting point is 00:12:17 How could he have handled that better? Or if you were down there, you're like, okay, Romeo, this is the next things you want to do. This is how you should do it. I think what he should have done is basically just been like, hey, Kira, I'm not really interested in you. I am interested in seeing where things go with Jill, but I'm not ready to, of course, commit to that because there are some other people that I have my eyes on. So I like to get to know Jill Moore and other people. I do think that in hindsight, he may have used Jill as an excuse to get really. of Kira in a nice way where he wasn't exactly saying it's not you it's you know like it's not
Starting point is 00:12:54 I don't like you you know that would be wrong right yeah not okay yeah you somebody you get out of the time yeah well you think uh I mean at this point in time obviously you you've talked about Jill before you know Bill um how do you feel like she's handling the beach How do I feel like Jill's handling the beach? I mean, hilariously and amazing, and I love it so much. You're proud of her? Yeah, so proud. We're going to have her on the podcast tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Everything that comes out of her mouth is so funny and over the top. She tells Romeo, she goes, our ship is sailed and it's already landed at the Middle East. It's already at the Middle East. It's so good. I love her so much. Let's see. What else? Should we just go into the rose ceremony and what happens?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Like we said earlier. There's so much here, Ashley, we have to talk about with Genevieve. Yes, so much the show. Yeah, let's break down the show. Let's break down her big chunk of the show with her. I mean, who better to talk to about it, right, than the person and herself. And so let's get into the rose ceremony. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 The rose ceremony has lots of roses that we really don't know where they're going to. Like I said earlier, we just know that Andrews is probably going to Teddy's, which it does. Brandon's going to Serena and Michael A to Sierra. now we have Logan to Cheney which also isn't particularly surprising but it's not like they're like glued then we have Casey giving his rose to Brittany we haven't seen a lot of either of these two yet I don't think that there's some great romance going on there yeah I love Brittany and I have no idea why all these men aren't fighting for her she's got it all she's the total package we'll see if that changes then we have okay good I'm so glad that you Jared will go on a roll rant. Jared wanted to go on a rant yesterday, but I was like, Jared, that would be, like, you would kind of be spoiling things if you said that you knew Brittany. You know what I mean? Because we didn't see the row ceremony until this episode. He and I just told her like every hour. We don't understand. Why isn't everybody coming after you? You are, you got it all.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Anyway, well, again, hopefully that does change when somebody comes in for her. Then we have Jacob to lace I would have thought I was going to go to Kira but whatever again whatever I'm glad it's lace so glad it's lace this season of course all of us are
Starting point is 00:15:25 then we have Justin to Genevieve which is the shocker and we'll dress it later with her and then we have Johnny to Victoria which is a huge shock because I mean he and her only had that one conversation Then we have Romeo apologizing to Jill saying that he made mistakes and hurt her. He wants the rose to go to her for a fresh opportunity to work on their relationship or for her to explore new connections.
Starting point is 00:15:55 So he's just leaving it open ended, which is very, that's a good move. Good job, Romeo. And then Jill says yes, because she knows that nothing in paradise is guaranteed. Kira, Hunter, and Haley go home. none of that is super duper surprising haley was an obvious choice that going on yeah here's a couple questions for you actually so one i just want to make the comment that haley um might have the uh shortest average day on this show of any contestant ever i mean i think she was a night oneer wasn't she was she a night oneer on on her season of the bachelor i believe she was a night oneer and
Starting point is 00:16:36 And then she's, I mean, what, really? How far in are they a week into the beat? Yeah. So she got eliminated at the first row ceremony both times. Yeah, I mean. Poor girl. But also, like, she's a little too, she just, I don't know. There's something about her that doesn't make me, like, want to hang with her.
Starting point is 00:16:55 No, hey. Obviously, people in paradise don't want to hang either. professor is way too friendly, and now I'm seriously suspicious. Oh, wait a minute, Sam. Maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Now, hold up. Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor, and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not?
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Starting point is 00:21:16 Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. second question for you is out of these relationships that are formed from the first row ceremony obviously you just ran through them if you had to put your your money on two of these relationships to make it to the end who would it be i mean i i think we have to take brandon and serene out of this because that's like let's let's go with somebody other than those two okay well people are going to know that i'm like lying because like i know where a lot of these relationships go even
Starting point is 00:21:57 just in the following week because we're there for a week. So I'm not going to... So I'll say who I'm interested as a viewer in seeing where things go because they seem very strong now. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:22:11 Is that a good way of wording it? That's a fair way of wording it. Okay. It seems like Michael A and Sierra would be the second strongest couple following Brandon and Serene. Very excited to watch how that goes.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Uh-huh. And then after this rose ceremony, I don't feel strong about anybody else, except for, I guess, I would feel strong about Andrew and Teddy, but then we see at the end of the episode where Andrew and Teddy go. So I'm not feeling strong about anybody. I think it's kind of a typical of paradise to only have, like, that one star couple at this point, that you just know is smooth sailing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So if you're, all right. Before we continue on here, Ashley, if you're a strong couple in paradise, if you are a weak oneer where like there's a love connection, everybody knows it. Producers know it, other people know it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Are they going to mess with you? Is this good? Are they going to protect your relationship and try to continue to foster it and make it healthy and work to the end? Or do you think that this typically will get rocked a little bit to have to make it through some rough patch? And then at the end we see them either come back together
Starting point is 00:23:27 or choose not to. What do you typically see and expect in paradise? I typically would expect one couple to be smooth sailing pretty much the entire time where their relationship doesn't get mess with. And I think that'll be Brandon and Serene. Those are also the couples that barely get any screen time because they're just in love and a little bit boring for the audience. I'm excited to see that date though that is previewed at the end of the episode
Starting point is 00:23:53 where Serene says like she's never seen anybody look at her the way that he looked at her. And that was, like, adorable. He also, we got a teaser of him saying that he's falling in love with her. They're going to be cute to watch, but again, like, we're not going to get, like, any drama from it, so they're not going to be seen it done. Then there'll be, like, one or two relationships that have to stand, like, tests and intruders and all that. I like the intruder comment. They are intruders. New people in the beach, beware.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. If you're a strong couple and you are just like hanging out, what are you doing all day? Are you just sitting there cuddling and kissing and talking? Or are you like swimming in the ocean? Are you just laying by the pool? You just having drinks? I mean, if you know you are the boring couple who is like, I just want to get out of here with you. I would leave the day and leave this beach. What does your day look like? your day looks like a lot of just sitting around by the pool awesome if you want to go it's not bad life not bad life some people get bored and I can see that but you do have so many people to talk to so and then there's like a lot of good food to eat and there's a lot of good drinks to drink and I don't go in the water because it's very scary in there the undertow is strong you don't go in the water no but the pool People are going to pool a lot.
Starting point is 00:25:24 The pool is really warm. Well, thanks for the insight, Ashley. All right. So the next scene is the next morning after the rose ceremony, when people are waking up tired because these rose ceremonies seem to last till what? Oh, the early ones. I don't know why it is, why it is like that in paradise,
Starting point is 00:25:47 but again, it's just like the regular season. Yeah. The early cocktail parties are so long and so long. late. They get a little bit better as the season goes on. But oh my gosh, it's probably around 4.30 when the final rose is given out. And then you wake up at what time? Oh, it's so evil because there's usually an intruder that comes down that morning. And they're waking you up by 738. And you're working on like three and a half hours. That seems like it. It's probably not a good three and a half hours you're probably a little drunk it's hot sweaty you're tired you're emotional
Starting point is 00:26:25 you've been nervous it's weird and then two hours later you're back up out of bed on national television waking up and that's what we see the next morning so the first intruders can i just call them intruders forever now i like it i think it's gonna stick i think it really works i think they're intruders yeah they are uh the next morning we have Aaron and James come in okay all the girls are like so into Aaron and James it's actually funny because I think of them as like a comedy duo not as like this beefy hunk cake kind of remind me of night at the Roxbury yeah like like would come in with their head like you know shaking on the side shirts off like what's up girls yeah it's so funny because I think that's like true to Aaron's character and not so much James
Starting point is 00:27:14 I had to say that when we were with Aaron and James like James seems super sweet like you there's nothing like bash brothery really about his aura right he just seems like a lover not like a fighter but i i was like erin you're so annoying on tv i was like i've talked so much back about you because you just seem like you're always looking for a fight you're like oh i want to fight i want to fight always angry i'm like i'm angry and then in real life he wasn't like that at all he was so fun yeah and lighthearted and choky yeah I mean, he does come off very angry. Like, stuff sets him off quickly.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It is. It's odd. I mean, it's the reason why you said, hey, I'm glad you told him that. Aaron, I've talked a lot of smack about you because I don't know what it is, but you have like four or five moments that, like, are definitely not easy to watch. I am excited to see Aaron on the beach because obviously Cheney is there. Genevieve is there. This was a controversy at Mentel All.
Starting point is 00:28:19 um crazy that was crazy crazy crazy so it is i mean he does kind of bring the outside story that we all know and are aware of into paradise and so now we get to watch as fans being like this is this is going to be interesting yeah it is going to be interesting well that then we see the date and it's actually drama free it's crazy but we do need to talk to but we need to talk to that talk to jenev about that about her relationship with Chenay and how it changed so quickly and her decision to go on the date with Aaron when she was leaving Justin
Starting point is 00:28:59 who so generously gave her the rose the night before even though they were not really on the best terms. I will say this, Ashley, when we're in Vegas, you know, I'm fairly distant. You were obviously on the beach this season. So you were there. You've got to see the behind the scenes. You got to meet these people in person.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I typically am now just a viewer, commentator, opinion setter of my own here on this podcast. But with Genevieve in Vegas, I got to sit down with her and ask her like, hey, was that thing with Chenet real? She says very much so. It hurt her. She was upset about it. Then she did tell me, and we'll get into it with Genevieve here in just a bit. But it was cool for me to hear that her and Chenet were able to talk on the beach, reconcile and heal, and both move forward, right?
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's a big deal. And I think sometimes as viewers, we just think this is like fantasy land and fake and they're actresses and actors and that none of this actually affects the real life of these humans, but it really does. And here that the beach once again
Starting point is 00:30:03 gave that redemption story to something at some level, right? It's exciting and also really cool, right? It's the, I think ever since the Thomas Jacob scenario, I said, this beach can be used for a lot of good. Let it. Now, they don't always have to let it. If they want to, the beach does feel like that place that kind of wipes the slate clean
Starting point is 00:30:25 and helps everybody start over and say, hey, what have I learned the last time you saw me on a dating show? Yeah. Before we get Genevieve on, let's talk about the one other huge storyline of this episode. And that was Teddy and Andrew. So I come in and I could just vibe. Teddy was not super into Andrew. She vocalized that she was oddly not as physically throwing herself at him as she'd like.
Starting point is 00:30:57 She was like, I came in for him. And I think that we have a good thing, but she didn't feel like an overwhelming passion for him. And I don't know. Like, I guess it was Rodney walking in. It was all very weird. It was a little strange. So Rodney walks in, and apparently this gives Teddy a little flutter in her heart. And that didn't make her feel good about her relationship with Andrew.
Starting point is 00:31:26 She's like, I shouldn't be feeling that. She pulls Andrew aside and tells him, I want, I wanted to just be with you here. You came for me. I came for you. And as much as I'm feeling like I like you, I'm not feeling like I really. really like you. And she ends up feeling so bad about her lack of passion that she decides to leave and doesn't even tell anybody.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's strange. Like, do you find that strange to leave without one saying goodbye and then to leave just because the one person that you expected to have a great romance with didn't end up. in a great romance. That's not how Paradise is traditionally supposed to work. If you go with your eyes set on someone, you're like, oh, I'm excited to see them, excited to get to know them
Starting point is 00:32:25 if there's see if there's anything there, but then when you actually, but if in real life it doesn't really hit, well, then you have other options. It just seems like I guess Teddy's just not comfortable with the format of Paradise, which is totally
Starting point is 00:32:41 respectable. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I think I don't know. We'd have to ask Teddy. I would assume that she in her mind thought this is going to be controversial. This is going to add some type of drama, right, no matter what. If I go on another date with another person, you know, this isn't working out the way I thought I would.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I came, you know, really hoping this worked. It didn't. And then she decided to leave. So she obviously, I think what we can, there is, like, she's choosing to be not involved in the drama over her ability to maybe find somebody in paradise. And I have to respect it. That's not an easy decision to make. You're so early on in this process, it's probably fun. It's still exciting.
Starting point is 00:33:34 If you're single and you're ready to mingle, the paradise is an amazing place for it. And she's saying, hey, I seem to go. this obviously is not going to go out the way I thought it would and as interested as I am maybe in somebody else in the beat. It's not worth it or the pain that would cause. Now, saying goodbye, it would have been nice. I respect it. She definitely didn't want people to try to argue with her to stay. She didn't want the convincing. She didn't want the convincing. I respect it. I am saddened by it because I feel like, you know, before the season, started. We said Teddy is going to be sought after. She's going to be somebody on the beach that
Starting point is 00:34:17 people love. People are very interested in. She was obviously talked about a lot. And we didn't get to see her enough during Clayton season. We saw her, you know, get the first impression rose. And then she kind of disappeared. I was wanting to know more about Teddy. We're just going to get it. And that's a loss for us as viewers. But a respectful decision, I feel like on Teddy's part. I'm not, I'm not upset by it. Yeah. She probably just doesn't like being on the show. you know some of us love it and then some of us are just like you know it's not for me it's probably not for teddy and that's totally cool all right let's get jenevieve on i enjoy it i'd love to be in paradise i just uh my life never worked out that way you had to go to winter
Starting point is 00:34:59 games instead yeah okay so let's take a quick break and then we're going to get jennavieve on professor is way too friendly and now I'm seriously suspicious. Wait a minute, Sam, maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit. Well, Dakota, it's back to school week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot. He doesn't think it's a problem, but I don't trust her. Now, he's insisting we get to know each other, but I just want her gone. Now, hold up.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet.
Starting point is 00:35:50 So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love. of crimes, we're not the podcast for you.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble. Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose
Starting point is 00:36:34 between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Fortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you. Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aim to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming
Starting point is 00:37:17 and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything. Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself.
Starting point is 00:37:36 My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:38:16 A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Jennifer Lopez, and in the new season of the overcasts, Comfort podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time?
Starting point is 00:38:47 I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion. even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfit podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. As promised, this is the almost famous podcast. podcast and we have on this podcast the absolute guests every current season of the show and we have a top guest today Genevieve who I've talked about for meeting in Las Vegas who I really enjoyed hanging out with um I didn't get to hang out with everybody enough because I heart kept
Starting point is 00:39:53 me busy which I did enjoy it as well but Genevieve welcome to the almost soon as podcast thank you Ben and Ashley thank you for having me well thank you for being here We want to talk to you about Genevieve. You talked in Vegas and you were like, I don't know how Paradise is going to be for me. And I said, I think you're going to be a main character just from meeting you. I think your storyline is going to be like a roller coaster. And I believe everybody is going to enjoy watching you on television.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And so far, my first question for you is, are you having an okay time watching yourself on television? or is this as brutal as you were nervous about? No, I think you got me at my worst right before it aired. So I was like really anxious. It is, it is okay. I do think it's funny to watch myself because I'm just kind of like all over the face
Starting point is 00:40:48 and it's just funny. But I mean, seeing myself be very emotional. It's not fun to watch. And like just seeing how I, how my reactions played out. It's not great to watch back, but I can learn from it. So people, you know, gave me the same flack for, like, being so invested in Jared so fast. And that's sort of what we see with you and Justin. And it's really easy to be a viewer and to be like, oh, my God, why does she think that they're a real thing after one day?
Starting point is 00:41:22 For some reason, Bachelor in Paradise rules are, or feelings are so much different than in the real world. so did you i don't even i don't really know what question i have from that statement except for like do you want to explain to people how it's different and like how intensely you were feeling after just one night being on the beach you are with the same people 24 seven um you do everything with them and if you're forming a connection with someone i mean that connection forms very quickly when you are just constantly with them, getting to know them, learning more about them, seeing how they are in a private setting when you're on one-on-one, seeing how they are around other people. So one day does not feel like a day in Paradise.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I have to say, it feels a lot longer. And I would say emotions can form very quickly. Now, the only thing I have to say as far as like a criticism with how you possibly dealt with things is that I think that you have every right to feel as sad as you were when Justin went on the date but looking back do you feel like
Starting point is 00:42:40 he did all the right things and you know in preparation of going on that date like he did come up to you and explain that he was going to do it he just I don't think he messed up at all but I think that while
Starting point is 00:42:56 that that being said, you still have every right to your feelings. But do you think you did get too upset about him deciding to go on a day on a different, with another girl just like day two? Yeah. Yes, definitely. I definitely was too upset because I spent all my time. I was 100% invested Justin. So I was very upset. And I, yeah, I definitely was in my head. I was too upset and too emotional about it. No, I think you could be upset for sure, but, like, mad at him is probably the thing. I wasn't, I wasn't angry at him until the conversation after when he got back because, again, these had be really things, but he didn't talk to me for about an hour. He was talking to the guys. He went to shower. And, like, I just wanted an answer. I was waiting all day for him. And so I wanted him to
Starting point is 00:43:46 come talk to me right away and just give me an answer. And then our conversation also, I was looking for, I had a connection. I feel a stronger. connection with her. I feel a stronger connection with you. And he didn't give me, he gave me absolutely thing. He didn't really even tell me he was still interested, like really interested in me. So, well, he said he was confused. I wasn't at him during the day. I was not angry. I was just so sad during the day. So sad during the day. But then after our conversation, when he got back, I did get angry because I felt he should have come talk to me right away. And again, I shouldn't have got angry at that he has the right to talk to his friends first and everything. But I was upset all day
Starting point is 00:44:27 waiting on that. So I think I just wanted to talk to him. But he did feel the anger. He did say that he was confused. So when he said that, like he, I thought he was alluding to being kind of torn between you guys. And then you said, I either want him to be totally in on me or totally in on her and let me be. Do you, I, I regret saying. Yeah, do you regret. I, do you regret? Okay. Yeah, I was going to say 100%. That is one of the few things that I actually do, like, regret saying, because that's not how it is. Like, you do, sorry, sorry, you do have to, you have to explore. You have to, you have to get to know both people. I mean, and I was saying, you have to know after one day, but you don't. You really don't have to know after one day. And like, looking back, I'm seeing that. So that was definitely. Exactly. Jared loves you. You know that. And he. was talking yesterday on this podcast, and he was like, he knew you for 24 hours and he knew her for six hours. It's like, I think that he has the right to be confused and unsure of which direction
Starting point is 00:45:35 to go into at this point. But I just want to also reiterate, when you're there and all this is happening to you, you can't help how you respond sometimes. Well, of course you can help how you respond but like you're just living your life and the camera happens to be there and we all make some that's a thing you forget that there's wonderful moves yeah yeah you forget the cameras are and that that matters but like you're just full raw emotion and it's all being filmed um but no when I said he has to either choose one I mean that was so silly I think I just I don't know what was going on in my head I was so upset I really was just so upset um and I was I don't know, but I do regret saying that.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And I don't think that someone should be able to come back from a date and just make a decision right away. I don't think it's that easy. Now, let me ask you both because the thing that I, you know, Genevieve, I don't know you as well as I know Ashley, obviously. I get the sense that you both, Ashley was mad at me as her work husband, as somebody who, you know, gets to talk to her a couple times a week. She would tell me, like, very quickly.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I have no concern about Ashley hiding it, pressing it, pushing it down. If I hurt Ashley, she would tell me. I have a feeling you're very similar, right? You are authentic and transparent. Even if your reactions are not things that you are going to look back on me, like, yeah, I handle that perfectly. I'm at least going to know where you're at. I'm at least going to know what you both are feeling at that given time.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And so to help this make sense for anybody out there, sitting in for myself, who has never been to the beat. When this scenario happened, you're dating somebody, you're into somebody, you're starting to, you know, have very strong feelings for these people and they go on another date and then they come back. What's the closest real world feeling that you could relate it to? I'm going to throw out some ideas, right? Do you feel like you're being cheated on? Do you feel like you're being broken up with? You feel like you're being betrayed? Do you feel like you've been strung along, what the closest kind of real world relationship things that you could try to, you know, hone this in and say, that's what I was feeling at that time.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You feel like you're about to be broken up with? I would say, you're about, yeah, you're about to be broken up if they found someone new. And yeah. Yeah, it's that feeling of like, okay, it's not completely over, but I know the end of. is so near and like the anxiety is just rushing through me. I feel like for me, tell me if I'm wrong. But if I'm sitting there and somebody did this to me, I would start to compare. And I would start to get really down on myself.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Just, you know, wait, why wasn't I good enough? What do I not have? What am I missing? You know, what's wrong with me? Do you two have that same thing kind of go through your head? I mean, that's exactly what was going through my head. I'm tough. Yeah, like, and also like the fact I had the first, I was the first one that had to kind of be the one sitting back while the person I was interested in went on a date.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, no, it was definitely very hard. Victoria is beautiful. She's amazing. I love her. And so it's, of course, it's hard to not compare and be like, well, she's beautiful. She's funny. She's awesome. I'm sure they're going to have a better connection.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And then you just start getting even more in your head. and yeah it doesn't help at all there's something about paradise which is different from the main show which you just feel the comparison way more strongly like on the main show of course you can kind of like
Starting point is 00:49:29 you're like oh she has that she has that or he likes her because of this there's something about paradise where you feel like more of a direct competition with the person that your love interest is going on a date with okay well we gotta like jump ahead he ends up giving you the rose that day
Starting point is 00:49:48 over Victoria do you think that was because Victoria was showing interest in Johnny or do you think that Justin really wanted to give you guys another chance I think that it was 100% because Johnny was going to give his rose to Victoria and Victoria was into Johnny and I think he could sense that okay so then the next day You guys have a sit down a little bit before the guys come in, James and Aaron, and you're like, Aaron's probably not into me.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I've met him twice before. I wouldn't worry about him taking me out on a date. And let's address the drama that you guys had as this circle with Cheney and Aaron and you. On TV, sitting next to you on a couch, Sheney accused you of having, like, slay. with Aaron already, which is craziness. Where did that rumor originate from? And how did she have the balls to say that? I don't know how she had the balls to say that. But the rumor, I had met Aaron at a bar and I had posted a picture. I think on my story. And so I guess that's where she got that from. But how did you like come up with you see a picture and imagine? And then like,
Starting point is 00:51:11 For a picture. That's the only context. That's insane. Actually, she does, we talk about it on the show. So she does say, like, she doesn't know where that came from. So she just, I mean, yeah, but it definitely is not true. We both have addressed that. And then I did sit next to him after the final rows. And those seating, those seating is assigned.
Starting point is 00:51:36 We did not pick those ourselves. And that was it. So I met him twice. very platonic and there's never anything and I did say like it's not that there couldn't be anything I do think he's handsome and he's nice but there just wasn't there yet at least so okay so when Aaron does ask you out how did you feel about broaching this with Justin did you end up going over to Justin and talking to him and being like hey like how do you feel about me going out with Aaron, or did you feel like you didn't have to do it at that point?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Oh, I did talk. I, of course, talked to Justin about it. That's the first, like, right after I talked to Aaron, I talked to Justin. I don't think that that, him going on a date would excuse me, like, would make it okay for me just not have a conversation with him. I asked him, it'll be okay. He said, I mean, he said, like, yeah, go. I personally didn't think I was going.
Starting point is 00:52:40 on the date. I know when we didn't see this right when Aaron no yep when Aaron walked down I said to Justin we saw this yeah I said I promise I don't think it's going to be me yeah yeah but when he sorry but we didn't see the second conversation okay yeah sorry so we didn't see this conversation but of course I talked to him I mean like I would have never just left and said I'll probably be thinking about you I wouldn't have I absolutely had a conversation with him and asked him how he would feel he said he would suck obviously but go so my boyfriend's professor is way too friendly and now i'm seriously suspicious wait a minute sam maybe her boyfriend's just looking for extra credit well dakota it's back to school week on the okay story time podcast so we'll find out soon
Starting point is 00:53:29 this person writes my boyfriend has been hanging out with his young professor a lot he doesn't think it's a problem but i don't trust her now he's insisting we get to know each other but i just water gone. Now hold up, isn't that against school policy? That sounds totally inappropriate. Well, according to this person, this is her boyfriend's former professor and they're the same age. And it's even more likely that they're cheating. He insists
Starting point is 00:53:50 there's nothing between them. I mean, do you believe him? Well, he's certainly trying to get this person to believe him because he now wants them both to meet. So, do we find out if this person's boyfriend really cheated with his professor or not? To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast,
Starting point is 00:54:06 or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, my name is Enya Umanzor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom. If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you. But if you have unmedicated ADHD... Oh my God, perfect. And want to hear people with mental illness, psycho babble.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yes, yes. Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you. Open your free IHeartRadio app. Search Emergency Intercom and listen now. What would you do if one bad decision forced you to choose between a maximum security prison or the most brutal boot camp designed to be hell on earth? Unfortunately for Mark Lombardo, this was the choice he faced. He said, you are a number, a New York State number, and we own you.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Shock incarceration, also known as boot camps, are short-term, highly regimented correctional programs that mimic military basic training. These programs aimed to provide a shock of prison life, emphasizing strict discipline, physical training, hard labor, and rehabilitation programs. Mark had one chance to complete this program and had no idea of the hell awaiting him the next six months. The first night was so overwhelming, and you don't know who's next to you. And we didn't know what to expect in the morning. Nobody tells you anything.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Listen to shock incarceration on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get to. your podcast. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...
Starting point is 00:55:47 What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:56:22 A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happens in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfort Podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. paradise is messy uh so messy let's uh let's uh let's i want to pause here and uh i always love listening to actually talking people about paradise because he just has a great perspective on it and I work for it but um do you going in and just to pause obviously here do you feel like it could be this messy do you realize how hard it was going to be to make the right decisions and to um find mind love interests and to pursue people well, why other people are coming to the beat,
Starting point is 00:58:10 or did this become a lot more than you expected very quickly? You said it perfectly. It was a lot more than I expected very quickly. I went there. I just had such high hopes I was going to leave engaged, honestly. And I went there to such a positive mind. And then once you spend all your time with someone, it affects, it really does affect you when they get taken away to go on a date with someone else for a whole day in paradise a whole day is a lot of time
Starting point is 00:58:40 um so it it's a lot more than i expected i thought i would be able to kind of go to handle my emotions better i thought i would be able to control them much better uh but i saw i i really wasn't i guess i just acted how i was feeling in the moment and i know it was all genuine how i was acting um but it it doesn't excuse it but yeah it definitely is harder than i imagine or then it even looks. I always say it's like emotional boot camp there. People, you know, of course we sit down on the couch and we criticize and we go, how do they feel like this so fast?
Starting point is 00:59:17 We make fun of everyone. You know, as a viewer, like, I know how easy it is to do that. And it's funny sometimes I'll watch the show with my mom and she'll be like criticizing and critiquing people in situations that, whether I know the contestants or not. and I get so defensive. I'm like, Mom, like, I was here. Like, you can't say that. Like, I know exactly what's actually going on here.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And I think that as hard as it is, you do have to, like, give the cast even more grace when they're in paradise, because it's a situation that you can't even fathom. Like, I almost feel like the viewer can fathom a little bit what it would be like to be on The Bachelor. It's definitely an experience that translates a little bit more. through TV. Paradise is so much more emotional than anything I could ever imagine going through. When I went there, I remember saying to the producers, you guys are going to have to force me to like someone. I'm not going to like someone. And it's like just, it's hilarious. It's funny how much you feel there. And it was fun being there with you guys because we got to see.
Starting point is 01:00:33 you guys go through it all that we went through and then not have to do it right because you yeah you you're happy yeah it was watching it off yeah but i know all the the turmoil you guys are going through and i just kind of want everybody out there watching to be like it's easy to judge but if you were in the situation you be just as ridiculous as everyone there it's a long it's there long days and nights For sure. Long, long, long. It's hard. Yeah, it's hard to, yeah, be all there, I guess.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah. So you end up going on the date with Aaron, and it goes really well. From a viewer's point of view, I see more chemistry that you have with him than Justin. Justin at this point just seems like, I feel like that relationship, you got, you kind of got cut off. There's just like a lot of hostility there, a lot of defensiveness. when you were on that date with Aaron, what were you thinking? Did you have a clear cut feeling on who you were choosing or was there still like a lingering, I like Justin Beck at home feeling? No, see, that's the thing. So I, before going on the date, I thought I was going to go on the
Starting point is 01:01:48 date and just want to go back to Justin. I thought I was going to have a fun time but not be like romantically interested in Aaron. Then after the date, I was like so, surprised at how well it went and I just saw a side of him like I just obviously I don't know him um and I just saw the side of him and I I actually my decision was Aaron like on my way back my decision was Aaron and um you don't see it yet but yeah um I know that Justin and I are very we're not good together obviously and I think he knows that too I do think um he gave me as rose, I don't know, to see if there was potential. And of course, both of us, like, cared about each other and all that. But, um, after my date with Aaron, it made it clear to me that Aaron
Starting point is 01:02:40 was what I wanted. Did you feel guilt about that, knowing that he had given your rose the night, giving you a rose the night before and you were over it? Or you're just like, that's the name of the game. No, I did, I did feel bad. But at the same time, I do know Justin, wanted to give his rose to Victoria. So I don't think if things went the way they did with Victoria and Johnny. I think I just said someone's name wrong. I don't think if things went as well as they did with Victoria and Johnny, Justin would have given me his rose.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So I do. Of course, it sucks to have someone keep you around and then be more interested in someone else. But at that point, I was just following my heart. and that's just all I could do. And, I mean, you don't want to be a consolation prize. Like, that's not how you're going to get engaged. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Somebody's second choice. Right. And then we have the roses the second week. So then after rose ceremony, we wake up. And then it's kind of all we were like almost pretending he was back to like normal, even though, I don't know if we could have come back from that. Yeah. A great timing, though, huh?
Starting point is 01:03:52 How crazy is it that? Aaron and James show up to the beach the day after your, dramatic rose ceremony and dramatic day. I know. That day I thought I was going. I mean, I truly thought I was going home. And then, yeah,
Starting point is 01:04:05 the following day, I found someone I was very interested in. To talk about a couple of relationships that don't involve you, what do you think about Teddy leaving without saying goodbye to you guys? I, it's crazy because I try to be,
Starting point is 01:04:25 Like, I honestly tried to do the same thing. I tried to, I don't think I would have gone through it, but I was like, I want out and I can't even, I can't bring myself to go say goodbye to these people. Because you know you're going to be convinced to stay. Yeah. So, and like, you know it'll hurt. So, I mean, it is, I think it would have been nice for her to just go and just say a goodbye, just say like, and not even talk about anything. Just say goodbye. She didn't have to explain herself because that's hard.
Starting point is 01:04:55 and she doesn't have to explain herself either way, but that's tough. I think a goodbye would have been nice, but I do understand that like she was just feeling all the emotions and she just wanted out. What do you feel about her just not giving anybody a chance and it being like Andrew or bust? I don't think, yeah, I think that has to do more of it. She didn't like the setting and like that she was in. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Because I don't think you would just leave if it didn't work out with one person. Yeah. I do feel like it was because she just, it was a lot to deal with, like all of us, like we know. And she just didn't want to deal with it. And if it didn't work with Andrew, she just didn't want to continue and lead anyone on if she couldn't really handle it. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, Genevieve, we're going to let you go here. We've got some great time with you.
Starting point is 01:05:49 but we really want to see you shine and thrive. Again, you were so much fun at High Heart Music Festival, and we appreciate that. You made that trip really enjoyable. That was a fun trip, so thank you. Oh, I just thought of a question. Well, wrapping up, I thought of a question. How did you and Cheney get over that hump?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Do we see it? A big hump. Okay. We had a conversation on the couch, and she apologized to me. She said she is honestly very sorry. We were both tearing up. Like, this was a genuine honest. Like, I truly felt it was a genuine apology from Chenay, and that's all I wanted. And so she apologized for kind of making that up.
Starting point is 01:06:40 She said she wasn't going to let me win on Clayton's season. So that's why she pulled the actress thing. And then she just made something up on the couch. yeah oh no she fully she fully admitted it yeah i know i know you said that earlier but it's funny to hear her being like i just pulled it out of my ass yeah she i was like should hey do we see that in a your episode or is that gone now i don't know if they're going to show it i'm pretty sure that was the day i was in the yellow bathing suit so that was like the second day oh we had a like such a good thing for us to see i'm mad we was and i apologized for because i said at the
Starting point is 01:07:18 woman's how all I said it looked like she had a diaper because of like something under her dress yeah I apologize like she told me that upset her and I truly apologize for it and so we just got through everything that like are all of our issues and and then we we hugged and we're like crying um I don't know why we don't watch this stuff this is this stuff I want to see redemption like come on now you I feel bad because sheenae's not like she has been great and it's not showing that she really is different this time around so I do feel back to that. It's implied, which is weird. It's implied because everybody seems to be getting along with her.
Starting point is 01:07:53 But, yeah, there's definitely a gap in that storyline. Oh, we're getting a word that says we show this conversation. Got it. So it is to come. It is to come. Excited about it, team. Hey, it's a great story. Genevieve, Shine, Shine shines.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Well, Shene, again, we wish you the best. You're awesome. People need to know it. You call me Sheney. Please. Genevieve, hey, Chenet and Genevieve, they shine during this conversation. Genevieve, you are the best. We wish you the best.
Starting point is 01:08:26 You're great. You need to know it. And you're great television. And I mean that in like the most authentic way. Thank you. I'm happy you're on our screen. Yes. You keep things fun.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So, hey, thanks for joining us today. Thank you. Thank you so much, Ben. Yeah. Let's see you later. Bye. Bye. Well, everybody, this is a great episode.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The conversation with Genevieve, I thought, was really fun for me to listen to and also be a part of it brings to light a lot of the things happening in paradise actually i'm happy that i got to speak with you today about this episode because paradise continues i think i'll say it paradise continues to be type of television i like watching and i enjoy it and i hope it continues throughout the rest of the season i am too but until next time i've been ashley and i've been Ben. Follow the Ben and Ashley I
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